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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, Hour number two,

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Speaker 2: Wednesday Edition. We've got a lot to dive into this hour.

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Speaker 2: We've got the Covenant School anniversary I mentioned. We want

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Speaker 2: to talk about that one year ago, the shooting there,

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Speaker 2: six innocent people lost their lives Trans shooter. We still

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Speaker 2: have not gotten that trans manifesto. Ron DeSantis got a

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Speaker 2: big win over Disney, remember that big dispute.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk a little bit about that as well.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to keep talking about the announcement by

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior of his vice presidential pick Nicole Shanahan and

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Speaker 2: what seems to be a panic that is set in

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Speaker 2: among the Biden advisors over what RFK Junior is doing

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Speaker 2: potentially to his candidacy, particularly in swing states. And I

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Speaker 2: always think Buck and maybe this will change that. You

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Speaker 2: will see very often how the campaigns are acting to

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Speaker 2: give you a sense of what their true polding shows.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back in time. We mentioned in nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 2: Two Bill Clinton wanted Ross Perout involved in everything, wanted

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Speaker 2: him on the stage for the debates, wanted him involved

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Speaker 2: in every single policy issue that he and George HW.

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Speaker 3: Bush had.

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Speaker 2: Because he recognized that Perot cut into Bush's overall vote

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Speaker 2: in fact and cut into conversation, can it finish? Can

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Speaker 2: find it very good? Candi be very good? That might

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Speaker 2: be top five of your of your impersonations. You could

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Speaker 2: make the argument that George HW. Bush wins in ninety

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Speaker 2: two potentially if you don't end up in a situation

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Speaker 2: where there is a third party and lots of people

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Speaker 2: voted for Ross Perreau. I believe he got eighteen percent

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Speaker 2: of the overall vote, which is a high water mark

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Speaker 2: for a third party candidate in the modern era. What

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Speaker 2: we're seeing right now is there is a real panic

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Speaker 2: in the Biden side about the impact RFK Junior could have.

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Speaker 2: And they even brought all the Kennedy family to the

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Speaker 2: White House. I don't think we talked about it on

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Speaker 2: the program to endorse Biden. And you're sitting around saying, Okay,

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Speaker 2: why is that a lot of old school Democrat voters,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to people in their seventies and eighties who

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Speaker 2: grew up and have some fond recollection of the Kennedy

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Speaker 2: era in their minds. Of both JFK of RFK even

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Speaker 2: maybe a little bit teddy Kennedy, but have sort of

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Speaker 2: that patna of what was the Camelot era, and they

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Speaker 2: may walk into their voting booth and they recognize the

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Speaker 2: name Kennedy, and they have fondifications of that era of

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party, and they may end up voting for

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior. Now, right now, both sides. Immediately after Biden

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Speaker 2: sent out a announcement saying that RFK Junior is a

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Speaker 2: right wing zealot. Trump put out an announcement saying that

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior is a left wing loon. So they're both

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Speaker 2: trying to define RFK Junior in a way that their

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Speaker 2: base would find not likable. I asked the question, and

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Speaker 2: I do really think it's true. One of the we

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of VIP emails, and one of them

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Speaker 2: wrote in and said, Fellas, yes, this is from Mark.

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Speaker 2: RFK could beat Trump. Don't give them any ideas they

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Speaker 2: could still dump Joe and nominate RFK at the convention.

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Speaker 3: Mark from Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: They will not do that because they have decided that

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior is U is basically kryptonite to the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 2: But I do think he would beat Trump if he

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Speaker 2: were the nominee for the Democrat Party because he has

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Speaker 2: enough middle of the road appeal. I think he would win.

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Speaker 3: I think he would. Well, let's not let's let's not

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Speaker 3: give them any They're not going to do it. They're

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Speaker 3: not going to do Biden.

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Speaker 2: There is a weak candidate, but I think rf K

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Speaker 2: Junior would be a stronger one. It's gonna be Biden

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Speaker 2: because he's got to buy me that big expensive steak

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Speaker 2: r f K Jr. This is from Donald Trump, from

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Speaker 2: his Truth Social which is now worth.

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Speaker 3: Five or six billion dollars. I think his stake and

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Speaker 3: I will check in real time, buck. I think that

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, it is up another fifteen percent today, approaching

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Speaker 2: seventy dollars a share. DJT trading Truth Trump, Media and

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Speaker 2: Technology is Truth Social. It is now available for your purchase.

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Speaker 2: As always these meme stock situations, I would just say,

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Speaker 2: if you're not a professional, be careful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: R f K Junior, he writes, is the most radical

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Speaker 2: left candidate in the race by far. He's a big

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Speaker 2: fan of the green news scam and other economy killing disasters.

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Speaker 2: I guess this would mean he is going to be

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Speaker 2: taking votes from Crooked Joe Biden, which would be a

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Speaker 2: great service to America. His running mate, Nicole Shanahan is

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Speaker 2: even more liberal than him, if that's Kennedy is a

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Speaker 2: radical left Democrat and always will be. It's great for MAGA,

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Speaker 2: but the communists will make it very hard for him

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Speaker 3: On the ballot. I didn't know that Trump calls them communists.

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Speaker 3: That's that's made my day.

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Speaker 2: Expect him and her to be indicted any day now,

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Speaker 2: probably for environmental fraud. He is Crooked Joe Biden's political opponent,

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Speaker 2: not mine. I love that he is running Wow Trump

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Speaker 2: Just that's like a trump uh a trump Athon right there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's covering a lot of ground. So on

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Speaker 2: the one hand, he is throwing straight haymakers at RFK

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Speaker 2: Junior for being a left wing green new Deal commy lib.

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Speaker 3: And on the other.

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Speaker 2: He's like, but this is great because it'll take more

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Speaker 2: votes from Biden. I hope he's right. I I worry.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just I think it gives a lot

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Speaker 2: of like, not never Trumpers, but anything Nate Trump kind

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Speaker 2: of a you know, center to write a center people

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Speaker 2: some other option that might go for Trump otherwise, But

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Speaker 2: it's so hard to I don't think there is a

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Speaker 2: poll you could run or a polling company that could

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Speaker 2: have the mandate of really determining this before the election

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Speaker 2: with any because it's such a small it's one percent

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Speaker 2: or two percent of the electorate, How are you gonna know?

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Speaker 2: I think the more people that are on the ballot,

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Speaker 2: the more it helps Trump. So if you get Carnel West,

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Speaker 2: if you get Jill Stein, if you get RFK Junior

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Speaker 2: on ballots, because in general, I think the Trump people

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Speaker 2: are more committed to Trump than the Biden people are

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Speaker 2: committed to Biden, and that dilutes the anti Trump vote

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Speaker 2: and gets spread elsewhere. And I think that's why the

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Speaker 2: Democrats are so panicked over the idea of no labels.

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Speaker 2: Biden is just an anti Trump vessel. That is basically

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Speaker 2: his entire political campaign. It was in twenty twenty and

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Speaker 2: it sounds like it's going to be in twenty four again.

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Speaker 2: He's not even trying to run on what he did.

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Speaker 2: He's running on the fact that he's not Trump. And

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Speaker 2: so the more not Trump votes there are, the more

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Speaker 2: that gets diluted. That's a general analysis. Now, if it's

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Speaker 2: just Trump Biden and RFK Junior. I get nervous that

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior pulls more from Trump than he does Biden

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Speaker 2: in a five or six person field. I think it

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Speaker 2: ends up net benefit to Trump. I believe we have

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Speaker 2: the audio, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Of that.

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Speaker 2: Of that response from RFK Junior to the Native American apology,

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Speaker 2: which many of you are reacting to either saying I

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Speaker 2: it's crazy. So there's a lot of people out in

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Speaker 2: the audience on both perspectives. Here we played you that

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Speaker 4: Want to start out first office thanking all of you,

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Speaker 4: thanking Oakland, and thank all of you for being here today.

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Speaker 4: I also want to thank the I'm the the tribal chiefdoms,

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Speaker 4: the moly Loney Tribe, and the chairwoman of the Tribal

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Speaker 4: Council for endorsing me today, for putting their faith in me. Oh,

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Speaker 4: and they know very much they struggle or Indigenous rights

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Speaker 4: has consumed a lot of my life, my personal and

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Speaker 4: my professional life, and that this work is going to

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Speaker 4: continue when we're in the White House.

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Speaker 2: I have so many so many things that this first

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Speaker 2: of all, this is why I don't trust them.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just saying, somebody.

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Speaker 2: Opens their ceremony, opens their you know, their press conference

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Speaker 3: It's just a rule.

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Speaker 2: It's just an ironclad because what is it supposed to

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Speaker 2: even do, like, what is the purposes? By the way,

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Speaker 2: this is from Janice, one of our VIPs, wrote in

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Speaker 2: guess what every class in our museums, artist groups, and

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Speaker 2: probably every other group in Washington State starts with an

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Speaker 2: apology to the Native Americans with acknowledgment that it was

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Speaker 2: all their land first. The Mexican, our Mexicans around here

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Speaker 2: are trying to do the same thing and getting militant

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Speaker 2: about it. Jeers, Well, that's a whole other thing, the

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Speaker 2: irridentism of Mexicans about the lost lands of Mexico from

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Speaker 2: the Mexican American War.

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Speaker 3: That was a fun vocal word for to day.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I say this, man, I don't apologize

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Speaker 2: to anybody for something that I haven't done, and I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't accept apologies on my behalf as part of

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Speaker 2: some group. I apologize for nothing that I have not

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Speaker 2: done myself. I don't apologize. Maybe if Ginger started to

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: My wife apologizes for me all the time, so I

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Speaker 2: appreciate that. And uh, and I probably need to apologize

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Speaker 2: for my kids all the time too. But buck this

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Speaker 2: whole idea of apology. I mentioned this to you because

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. I went to Australia. They have

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Speaker 2: a national sorry Day before the New Year's fireworks celebraty.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even making this up, you know, having it's

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Speaker 2: celebration in Sydney, one of the great fireworks celebrations for

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Speaker 2: people for taking their lands before the fireworks the Aborigines, right, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: When we toured the Sydney Bridge, beautiful bridge that connects

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Speaker 3: You get to see all of Sydney from there.

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Speaker 2: At the Apex, the tour guide said, I'd like for

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Speaker 2: us all to pause here and as we gaze upon

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Speaker 2: I'm not making this up, this is real. As we

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Speaker 2: Now I could barely keep a straight face. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's so ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: That's a lie. Yes, it's a lie. Though well I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: That's amable, like apology that exists in a place like Australia,

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Speaker 2: which we otherwise think of.

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Speaker 3: I think you said it as you used to think

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Speaker 3: of it as like you know.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was England at better weather, but it's

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Speaker 2: actually East Germany with kangaroos.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, it's absolutely true.

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Speaker 2: But how do you keep a straight face when you're

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Speaker 2: apologizing for something that happened you had nothing to.

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Speaker 3: Do with at all? I don't remember, because that's what

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Speaker 3: I mean. That's there is it is.

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Speaker 2: It is a perversion of morality to make demands of

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Speaker 2: a perversion of basic culpability and individual responsibility, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's wrong. It is it is an immoral thing to

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Speaker 2: are still.

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Speaker 3: Living whatever it may be.

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Speaker 2: Explain that block out that stuff, block out that stuff

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Speaker 2: in the transcript. Maybe people would still have a problem

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Speaker 2: with that, but at least you're moving in the right

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Speaker 2: direction of transparency. To hold the entire thing back is

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Speaker 2: completely inexcusable because this is one of those things where

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Speaker 2: the public has a right to know. And on other issue,

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Speaker 2: you know, instances of me. This is mass violence against children.

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Speaker 2: She went in and shooting little kids. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: nothing more evil there is. It is not possible to

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Speaker 2: do something more evil than what this person did. Maybe

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Speaker 2: there's as evil, but there's not more evil than murdering

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Speaker 2: small children. And Clay, you look at this, you say

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Speaker 2: to yourself, they really expect us to forget about this.

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Speaker 3: That's what meaning the manifesto they expect.

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Speaker 2: And let's be honest, I think they want us to

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Speaker 2: forget about the whole thing they I think the left

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Speaker 2: in this country wants us to just, you know, the

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Speaker 2: same way we're not supposed to think about the attempted

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Speaker 2: mass assassination of congressmen back in twenty eighteen on a

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Speaker 2: baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia by a guy who is

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Speaker 2: shouting this is for healthcare shot, Steve Scalise tried to

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Speaker 2: kill Senator Ran Paul and among others. We're supposed to

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Speaker 2: forget about this as well. Brett Kavanaugh guy shows up

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Speaker 2: to try to murder him at his house because he

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Speaker 2: wants to change the Roe v. Wade ruling back to

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Speaker 2: avoid Dobbs taking effect. I've been told that part of

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Speaker 2: the writings involves her casing schools and deciding to attack

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Speaker 2: this school because she thought there was less security there.

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Speaker 2: It's a big national story if someone who is going

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Speaker 2: to shoot up a school consider schools based on the

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Speaker 2: security that's there. I've said for some time I think

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Speaker 2: every school should have armed security in the entire country.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't seem controversial to me. My kids went to

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Speaker 2: a public school that has armed security. One of mine's

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Speaker 2: still there. I've got two in private school now, but

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Speaker 2: my kids were in public school through sixth grade. I

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Speaker 2: want public school kids to have armed security. I want

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Speaker 2: private school kids to have armed security. This seems like

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Speaker 2: it would be an important detail if it's true that

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Speaker 2: a mass shooter is doing a reconnaissance. Do you think

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Speaker 2: it's a coincidence buck that mass shooters never seem to

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Speaker 2: go after by and large places with large groups of

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Speaker 2: armed people in them. Right, there aren't that many times

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Speaker 2: where a police station is stormed by a mass shooter.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes there's deranged people who decide to shoot at police stations.

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Speaker 2: That happens most of the time. Mass shooters go places

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Speaker 2: where they know there is not armed security. They may

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Speaker 2: be crazy, but they're surveilling it for that purpose. So

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Speaker 2: I just think it's on the one year anniversary. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: for everybody who is recovering from that shooting, they have

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Speaker 2: our thoughts, they have our prayers. We want them to

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Speaker 2: recover the best of their ability. And for people who

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Speaker 2: lost family members, I cannot imagine how difficult a daylight

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Speaker 2: today the anniversary is to take you back into your

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Speaker 2: mindset on that day. But for the larger American community

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Speaker 2: out there, I think it's important that we know the

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Speaker 2: full story and we know the full motivations, and so

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Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that we talked about it

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Speaker 2: here because frankly, I don't think you're going to hear

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Speaker 2: very many media outlets even mentioned the one year anniversary,

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Speaker 2: or the fact that we still do not have the

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Speaker 2: full basis upon which that transshooter decided to act.

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Speaker 3: It's even worse.

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Speaker 2: We don't even have an official declaration of motive from

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Speaker 2: law enforcement correct that they won't even say the motivation

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Speaker 2: was the following. They have a manifesto, they know they

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Speaker 2: won't tell us. Why won't they tell us? And it

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Speaker 2: reminds me of the height of this kind of dishonesty

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Speaker 2: before this incident, I think was reached. You remember the

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Speaker 2: Pulse nightclub shooting. Oh yeah, with a Muslim guy who

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Speaker 2: goes in, you know, jihadist who goes in and he

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Speaker 2: is killing all these.

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Speaker 3: People at a at a at a gay club.

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Speaker 2: He shooting them and and and he called in on

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Speaker 2: a cell phone, and they had the transcript of it.

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Speaker 2: You remember the FBI released the transcript with blacked out words,

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Speaker 2: and and not only did they do that, go back,

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Speaker 2: people forget about this. I have to remind people of

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Speaker 2: this clay. They blacked out words that everybody knew what

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Speaker 2: the words were.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Allah, it was Isis, it was Islam.

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Speaker 2: All of that was removed from the transcript that was

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Speaker 2: officially released under the Obama administration. And you know, because

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Speaker 2: there's loam religion of peace, we're all supposed to say

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Speaker 2: that was. Remember that was the declaration. I've never heard

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Speaker 2: all that. People were always saying Islam is religion of peace.

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Speaker 2: I never heard them say once that Judaism of Christianity

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Speaker 2: were religions of peace. Only Islam, which just saying I

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Speaker 2: thought that was interesting in and of itself, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: it's one thing if you want to claim that all

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Speaker 2: religions are but no, the only one we ever heard.

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Speaker 2: But put that aside for a second. M I try

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Speaker 2: to get too deep into that conversation. They blacked out

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Speaker 2: things from a transcript for no reason other than politics

536
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Speaker 2: that were so obvious that every person with a fifth

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Speaker 2: grade reading level knew exactly what was black.

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Speaker 3: Why would they do that?

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Speaker 2: You know, they're trying to control public information, They're trying

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Speaker 2: to control public perception, and they do this with manipulating

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Speaker 2: emotions around the most extremely emotional events, which are things

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Speaker 2: like this mass killings by dranged maniacs. So, but if

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Speaker 2: they're willing to do that, if they're willing to block

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Speaker 2: out things in a transcript and there's an official call

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Speaker 2: e or not official, but you know there's a call

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Speaker 2: that was made to the police, they'll lie to you

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Speaker 2: about anything that's the point they'll lie about anything near anniversary.

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Speaker 2: How many major media shows counting this as one will

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Speaker 2: even mention the fact that we still don't have the

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Speaker 2: full transcript today? What percentage we might be the only ones,

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Speaker 2: and we might you know, maybe one of our friends,

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Speaker 2: you know, on talk radio will mention it later or

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Speaker 2: that's it. Though they won't won't get any mentioned. I

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Speaker 2: won't get I don't even think I get mentioned. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it'll get mentioned on Fox. I don't even think it'll

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Speaker 2: thank you for what you do. In the spirit of

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Speaker 2: being factual, I want to point out that Israel was

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Speaker 2: an invited guest to Egypt Genesis forty five, ten through

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Speaker 2: eleven and seventeen to eighteen. I agree mankind has engaged

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Speaker 2: in slavery throughout history and lamb grabbing, and this was

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Speaker 2: true with Egypt and slaving Israel, who originally their guest. Yes, John,

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Speaker 2: you are correct. I was just kind of mid rant

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Speaker 2: and being first they were brought in and then they

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Speaker 2: were enslaved, but they didn't stay as invited guests. They

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Speaker 2: were enslaved. And now there's the people. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: all this back and forth over the archaeological record, as

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Speaker 2: to you know, were they really enslaved, how long were

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Speaker 2: they enslaved?

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Speaker 3: Were they there?

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Speaker 2: And you know, biblical archaeology is way beyond my uh uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, knowledge and understanding. I'll just say, but yes,

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Speaker 2: you are correct on that one. So I wanted to

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Speaker 2: correct the record. You've got, you got one. I just

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Speaker 2: think it's funny marking at me. Well, that's so serious.

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Speaker 2: And then we also have come on, guys, this from

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Speaker 2: Jeff the Beatlestone zepp in rock. All the greats were

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Speaker 2: in the sixties and seventies, far better music than the nineties. Now,

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Speaker 2: I knew we were gonna get a bunch of this,

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Speaker 2: and we did. From sixties and seventies rock.

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Speaker 3: Guy.

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Speaker 2: My point is the range of music, if you think

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Speaker 2: about it, there was elite new rock music being released,

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Speaker 2: elite new rap music being released, elite new country music

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Speaker 2: being released, all in the nineteen nineties. The range of

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Speaker 2: music that was crescendoing, peaking, to me felt like the nineties.

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Speaker 3: And I'll make an argument here, buck. I was reading

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Speaker 3: over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a twenty fifth anniversary of the Matrix movie,

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Speaker 2: the original Mattress, one of the great movies out there.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the that's one of my ten.

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Speaker 2: I say it's one of my ten favorite movies of

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Speaker 2: all time. Definitely one of the top ten action good

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Speaker 2: and sci fi movies of all time.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: You know what they say in that movie. Remember they

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Speaker 2: it's actually the year twenty one to ninety nine, but

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Speaker 2: they said that our society, humanity peaked in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: So that was why they said it there, because people

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Speaker 2: were the happiest and so and again go back and

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Speaker 2: watch the Matrix pot My question in terms of advancement

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Speaker 2: and happiness and everything else. You know, right around two thousand,

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Speaker 2: you had cell phones, you had computers, you had you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously antibiotics, advanced medicine. Uh, you know, yeah, a lot

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Speaker 2: of a lot of creature comforts, a lot of good

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Speaker 2: things going for us. But before social media, before some

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Speaker 2: of these things that have taken over our lives. I

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Speaker 2: asked my kids this stuff now, and they're young, so

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Speaker 2: they haven't lived through a lot. But I'll make the argument,

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Speaker 2: old man dad, that I am what is better today?

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Speaker 3: That wasn't just as good in the late nineties. What

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Speaker 3: is better today?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: You can say, like self, I have a couple of

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Speaker 3: answers for this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what would you say? What would your argument be?

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Speaker 2: What is better today than the late nineties. It'd be

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Speaker 2: interesting to put this out there for all of you

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Speaker 2: as well. What do you think is better today than

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Speaker 2: the late nineties in terms of stuff? Okay, we're not

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Speaker 2: telling you. In terms of the things in our lives.

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Speaker 2: I would say food has gotten a lot. I remember

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Speaker 2: when I used to drive. My family would drive from

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Speaker 2: New York to Charlottesville forevery for every Fourth of July

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Speaker 2: and every Thanksgiving to see my family that lived in Charlottesville, Virginia,

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Speaker 2: my dad's mom, my dad's brother.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And you know, catching good food along the way not

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Speaker 2: so easy. You know, there weren't that many good places.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting argument. Nobody's ever made that argument. Food

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Speaker 2: has gotten better in more places than you know. If

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Speaker 2: you go back, like early nineties, there was a lot

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Speaker 2: of garbage food, a lot of bad food in places.

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Speaker 2: Food has improved dramatically. You can get great food pretty

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Speaker 2: much anywhere in America now, with like very few exceptions

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Speaker 2: within a ten or fifteen mins. I would never have

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Speaker 2: thought food would be the argument for what's better than

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Speaker 2: in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: But that's interesting. So food is one. Is there anything else?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: What else would you I ninety five percent of my

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Speaker 2: shopping is done online. I spend no time in stores,

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Speaker 2: no time trying on jeans because I hate jeans, stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. But I would argue, late nineties you had that.

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Speaker 2: It's just gotten better. Like the speed of the internet

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Speaker 2: is better. The only thing I can think of. Taxi

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Speaker 2: service is far better. They think about that in American life,

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Speaker 2: Compared to the late nineties, it was hard unless you

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Speaker 2: live in like New York City to get a taxi cab.

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Speaker 2: The Uber universe is far better. Transportation, I would argue

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Speaker 2: in that respect is better. But what I'm actually fascinated

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Speaker 2: by what you guys would say is actually better. I

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Speaker 2: don't know that there's very much that's better. Just think

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Speaker 2: about it, because the overall, you know, American happy index

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Speaker 2: has collapsed since the early two thousand twat