Speaker 1: M Hey everybody, it's your silly pal Josh. And for
Speaker 1: this week's select, I've chosen our episode on Steadycams. What
Speaker 1: with it being the beginning of the summer blockbuster movie season,
Speaker 1: I figured that the chances you want to know how
Speaker 1: movies are made have gone through the roof, So I'm
Speaker 1: here to satisfy your curiosity with, like I said, our
Speaker 1: Steady Cams episode, Enjoy, Welcome to Stuff you should know,
Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to
Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Chuck Bryant.
Speaker 1: Jerry's over there. Chuck's wearing a hat, so Steady should know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's still still pretty sad. Yeah, are you really sure?
Speaker 1: All right, Pete? You know what I'm getting the Josh's
Speaker 1: referencing my last chance garage hat that I've talked way
Speaker 1: too much about. Um, I'm getting the patch remade as
Speaker 1: we speak. WHOA actually found one an eBay that had
Speaker 1: been sold three months ago, and he's all a big conspiracy?
Speaker 1: Is that right now? But I found a picture of
Speaker 1: the patch that I sent to a patchmaker who like,
Speaker 1: can digitally reproduced this thing? Nice man. Well, then I
Speaker 1: got to find in the right hats coming back home. Well,
Speaker 1: that's step one. That's a big step one. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: getting a few patches and a few hats this time.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good idea. You can name them
Speaker 1: one through eight. That's right. Uh, let's see, Chuck, you
Speaker 1: worked in the film industry previously. Yeah, so did you technically? Yeah? Um,
Speaker 1: you did more than I did by far. You worked
Speaker 1: in front of and behind the camera, that's right. Um,
Speaker 1: did you ever work with a steady cam at all? Yeah? So,
Speaker 1: like you've seen these things up close. I don't recall
Speaker 1: Scott or anybody using one. We did not have one
Speaker 1: on our show. Okay they're expensive, Okay, but I mean
Speaker 1: there's some pretty good equipment, said it seemed like, but
Speaker 1: there was no steadicam, right, Nope, Because I was trying
Speaker 1: to recall and I could not, for the life of me,
Speaker 1: remember a moment when there was an awesome like extendoh
Speaker 1: arm camera with like all of the components exploded out
Speaker 1: in the different parts of a poll. That didn't happen
Speaker 1: because he would have walked in and said, what's that right,
Speaker 1: and everyone would have laughed, and you would have been like,
Speaker 1: what does everyone to make fun of me. Stuff dressing room. Uh,
Speaker 1: now we never use one on our TV show for
Speaker 1: Science Channel because, like I said, it's pricey to rent
Speaker 1: um And this is a bit of a giveaway. But
Speaker 1: a person steadicam operator comes with the package with all
Speaker 1: the equipment, it's a lot of times their own and
Speaker 1: uh it's you know, it's pricey to pay for that,
Speaker 1: that lady or that dude. But the reason it is
Speaker 1: prices because it's it has a really good effect and
Speaker 1: the person who's doing it really knows what they're doing.
Speaker 1: I I don't know, but just from researching this, it
Speaker 1: seemed like they were probably the most skilled tradesperson on
Speaker 1: the set at any given time when they were on
Speaker 1: the set. Is that right, Well, I think it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of what skill. Uh, it's just a different skill.
Speaker 1: Are they like the highest echelon of camera operators? No,
Speaker 1: it's just different. Okay, like a top nine niche Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I got it. But but you don't just wade into
Speaker 1: steadicam and and start getting work the next day. It
Speaker 1: does take a lot of work to master. But like
Speaker 1: a good Dolly grip, uh is just as skilled. It
Speaker 1: just pushing that thing around. But that takes a very
Speaker 1: non herky jerky well it's not in the herky jerky anyway,
Speaker 1: but just to hit the marks right and I see, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean all that stuff takes a great amount of skill. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this because steadicam. You know, when I
Speaker 1: came of age, it was already invented. It wasn't It
Speaker 1: was basically became commercially available a year I was born.
Speaker 1: So I don't really know a world prior to Steady Camp.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a movie that came up before six
Speaker 1: funny and um, I'm just used to it, right, But
Speaker 1: it's it's it's interesting to look back and see that
Speaker 1: there there actually is a point in time where this
Speaker 1: one dude who was actually kind of an outsider of
Speaker 1: the movie business, um basically changed it permanently forever for sure.
Speaker 1: His name was Garrett Brown. Is Garrett Brown. Yeah he's
Speaker 1: still around right, Yeah, and he um he was working,
Speaker 1: uh for well, he was working in TV commercials in
Speaker 1: on Sesame Street in Philadelphia, and um, he got a
Speaker 1: little frustrated, as camera people do, uh pre steadicam with
Speaker 1: not being able to accomplish certain shots. Yeah, there's supposedly
Speaker 1: there were thirty impossible shots that just based on the
Speaker 1: the equipment at the of the day, you just couldn't
Speaker 1: do right. Yeah. Well, and a lot of it had
Speaker 1: to do with like rough terrain. Sure, Staircases were a
Speaker 1: big one. And the reason the shots were impossible not
Speaker 1: like you couldn't lug a camera around up and down
Speaker 1: the stairs, but the movement that the camera recorded would
Speaker 1: be so jarring that it would render the film like
Speaker 1: that that it would be unusable. Yeah. And then this
Speaker 1: was in the day before I mean there were shaky
Speaker 1: cam shots and like Cassavettis and all these early indie
Speaker 1: filmmakers did a lot of like avant garde handheld stuff,
Speaker 1: but it was known as avant garde because it looked
Speaker 1: different and people were used to kind of smoother looking
Speaker 1: things in mainstream movies at the time. Yeah, it had
Speaker 1: like a real frenetic energy to it, Yeah, which you
Speaker 1: see all the time now. It's like a bona fide thing.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't just like picking up the movements of
Speaker 1: the camera. It was like telegraphing them as far as
Speaker 1: the human brains concerned. Because we take it for granted,
Speaker 1: but we have in our own brains, a pretty complex
Speaker 1: system that involves the inner ear coordinating with the movement
Speaker 1: of the retina so that it offsets the movement and
Speaker 1: the motion in the jarring um impact of like just walking. Like,
Speaker 1: if we didn't have that, we wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: focus on anything while we were moving around. Yeah, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: People wouldn't jog. They would get sick and vomit every
Speaker 1: time they jog, exactly right. And you certainly wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to like read US magazine while you were jogging
Speaker 1: or something like that. And the fact that you can
Speaker 1: it really is uh, it really shows how incredibly complex
Speaker 1: and well developed the system is. Right. Yes, that's what
Speaker 1: the steadicam that Garrett brown Um created sought to recreate.
Speaker 1: Any he did it, he nailed it, like on the
Speaker 1: first time out. Basically, Yeah, because we we mentioned a
Speaker 1: dolly that is Um, people that no film know this
Speaker 1: stuff is like pretty rudimentary information. But a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know what a dolly is, and they see
Speaker 1: the word dolly grip in the movie, they just think
Speaker 1: it sounds funny. Um, But the dolly is how you
Speaker 1: typically would get a smooth shot. It's just a big,
Speaker 1: super super heavy sled with wheels that the camera sits
Speaker 1: on and the camera operator sits on. And it's either
Speaker 1: on a very smooth floor on a piece of track
Speaker 1: like a little railroad car, and it pushes along and
Speaker 1: that's how you get those nice smooth shots. Right. So
Speaker 1: that's a dolly. The problem with the dolly is is
Speaker 1: you can't really lay that track over um, a rocky
Speaker 1: terrain if you're filming on Mars or something like that. No,
Speaker 1: and like you said, you can't push it up and
Speaker 1: downstairs just had its limitations, right, it did. So Garrett
Speaker 1: Brown said, I'm sick of these limitations. I'm so tired
Speaker 1: of being limited by dollies, stupid dollies. I'm gonna invent
Speaker 1: something better. And so he tinkered around um with his
Speaker 1: what was called the Brown Stabilizer at first, which he
Speaker 1: later renamed the Steadicam and to show off UM like
Speaker 1: at first he he was just using him in commercials,
Speaker 1: and he was like, this is way bigger than just commercials.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a sizzle reel. And he made a
Speaker 1: sizzle reel of the thirty impossible shots that you just
Speaker 1: couldn't do before, and he did it with the steadicam,
Speaker 1: but he didn't show how it was done. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you can. He was able to save ten of those shots,
Speaker 1: uh and digitize them, and a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: he finally released online ten of those so you can
Speaker 1: actually go see this original reel. His wife and his
Speaker 1: best friend like just doing stuff, while just doing stuff,
Speaker 1: like you know, like one of them was swimming. You
Speaker 1: can't run alongside somebody's swimming, apparently was an impossible shot.
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure why. Well, you just couldn't run
Speaker 1: alongside someone doing anything. Oh okay, that's what it was,
Speaker 1: even with a dolly. Uh, well, no, you could have.
Speaker 1: You could have laid dolly track down the length of
Speaker 1: a swimming pool shirt, right, That's why I didn't understand
Speaker 1: that one was an impossible shot. Um. And to show off,
Speaker 1: he goes question he goes around a slide just to
Speaker 1: kind of show maybe maybe that was the impossibility of it.
Speaker 1: But then his buddy gets out of the pool and
Speaker 1: like walking like he's he pivots around him and I'm
Speaker 1: sure he When he put this reel together and he
Speaker 1: sent it out, the directors are like, uh, this is
Speaker 1: magic sorcery. Well it was mind blowing, and some people
Speaker 1: say it was the first UH viral video because it
Speaker 1: was shared around Hollywood. Literally in a matter of days.
Speaker 1: Everybody in Hollywood was saying, what in the world, Like
Speaker 1: you said, what is this sorcery this Garrett Brown has
Speaker 1: bestowed upon us? Yeah, it's It was a bit of
Speaker 1: a mic drop as far as that reel goes, and
Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick being Stanley Kubrick sent a message to Garrett
Speaker 1: Brown that said, if you are really concerned about protecting
Speaker 1: its design before you fully patent it, I suggest you
Speaker 1: delete the two occasions on the reel where the shadow
Speaker 1: on the ground gives the skilled counter intelligence photo interpreter
Speaker 1: a fairly clear representation of a man holding a pole
Speaker 1: with one hand, was something or other at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the pole which appears to be slowly moving. All
Speaker 1: of that is Stanley kubrick Ian for, hey, there's a
Speaker 1: shadow and in one of your shots of the steadicam op,
Speaker 1: which was pretty cool of him to do, because I'm
Speaker 1: sure there were plenty of people in Hollywood who would
Speaker 1: have been like, Okay, think I kind of get the
Speaker 1: idea of what this was, because there was no suggestion
Speaker 1: whatsoever of what what Garrett Brown had used to get
Speaker 1: these shots except in those shadows. So he went eat
Speaker 1: and went and immediately cut those those I think fourteen
Speaker 1: seconds out of his reel and then released the second
Speaker 1: edition and it looked pretty good. I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: rough compared to today's standard. Sure, but in the time
Speaker 1: it was it was like unbelievable. It changed everything. Um.
Speaker 1: And one of the shots that he got was his
Speaker 1: wife Ellen. He said, dear, why don't you put on
Speaker 1: your most seventies bell bottoms you can find? And I'm
Speaker 1: going to run up behind you as you run up
Speaker 1: the steps to the Philadelphia Museum of Art, and maybe
Speaker 1: when you get to the top, you can raise your
Speaker 1: hands in triumph and I will spin around you. And
Speaker 1: then if that shot sounds familiar. Uh. It actually attracted
Speaker 1: a guy, a director named Um John What is the
Speaker 1: evil Son? Yeah, John Um, who said I like this,
Speaker 1: I'm going to use it in this little film I'm
Speaker 1: directing called Rocky. Yeah. And I didn't get whether or
Speaker 1: not this was the case. But did they Um? Did
Speaker 1: they locate Rocky in Philadelphia because of those steps? No?
Speaker 1: Because he said, how did you do that? And? Um,
Speaker 1: where are those steps. I don't think so, man, because
Speaker 1: I wondered that too, Like, uh, like, did he not
Speaker 1: have a scene written where Rocky just runs up those steps?
Speaker 1: I mean Stallone wrote it. Um, I think they just
Speaker 1: have to ask him. Hey, Sly, I was wondering if
Speaker 1: that was pretty good, I answered in that little moment,
Speaker 1: someone will have to interpret that. Great movie though, Man,
Speaker 1: I rewatched that. Yeah, like this year, from beginning to end,
Speaker 1: just phenomenal movie. I'm trying to get Emily to watch it.
Speaker 1: She never seen the original. No, it's its own thing
Speaker 1: for sure. Like it's not, it's not really it's a
Speaker 1: story for the most part. It's a love story and like, um,
Speaker 1: the triumph of the little Guy story for sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: featuring boxing, Right, that's exactly right. But two and three
Speaker 1: and on onward, it's like a totally different thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but those are good too. Yeah, they said, let's take
Speaker 1: your story, take out the heart, and insert cocaine instead
Speaker 1: insert Mr T. I don't get the cocaine reference. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just the eighties in Hollywood got hands on, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Uh, yeah, that's a good question, though,
Speaker 1: I wonder about that. If he surely they didn't remake
Speaker 1: it for Philadelphia just for that well. But the point
Speaker 1: is is Garrett Brown created on this sizzle reel the
Speaker 1: one of the most iconic shots in filmmaking history for sure,
Speaker 1: and he sent that real out and within that year,
Speaker 1: I believe six three major motion pictures hired him to
Speaker 1: operate his steadicamp for it. Um, there was Rocky, there
Speaker 1: was um what was the one about what you Gut
Speaker 1: Thrie Bound for Glory? Yeah, I think that one came
Speaker 1: out first, So that was the first actual like uh
Speaker 1: and that one, uh, the steady came up was Garrett Brown,
Speaker 1: I think for all these because he was the only
Speaker 1: guy that knew how. He got a lot of work
Speaker 1: early on. Yeah, and I think I think the paton
Speaker 1: was still pending until ninety seven, so I'm sure the
Speaker 1: thing out of the side everybody closed your eyes while
Speaker 1: I shoot this. But on Bound for Glory, he was
Speaker 1: on a crane even that lowered down, stepped off the crane,
Speaker 1: so people have seen crane shots, but then for the
Speaker 1: crane to go down, down, down, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden start following this guy, everyone was like, what
Speaker 1: in the world, right? There would have been a cut
Speaker 1: after the crane stopped and then before you know, they
Speaker 1: would have cut and he would have gotten a position
Speaker 1: and then started up again. This is one smooth shot.
Speaker 1: One smooth shot. Yeah, and then the other one was
Speaker 1: Marathon Man. So right out of the blue, this guy
Speaker 1: who was a commercial director and made short films for
Speaker 1: Sesame Street changed filmmaking like single handedly. Yeah, and one
Speaker 1: an Academy award, uh for technical achievement. I got that
Speaker 1: patent in seventy seven. And um, well that's it. That's
Speaker 1: the history of the steadicam. That's it. Everybody, good night,
Speaker 1: But we're gonna should we take a break and tell
Speaker 1: everyone how this thing works. Let's do it man, alright, Chuck,
Speaker 1: So the Steady Camp. Do you remember when we did
Speaker 1: our episode on breathalyzers. Oh boy, that was a long
Speaker 1: time ago, and we found out that the breathalyzer is
Speaker 1: one of the most complicated machines. Yeah, on the planet.
Speaker 1: I kind of hated that one, like there were there
Speaker 1: were crystals involved somehow. I hated that one too, dark
Speaker 1: crystals or um. This is a bit like that, like
Speaker 1: if you really dive into city camps, like this article
Speaker 1: on how stuff works does it's it's it's labyrinthine talk
Speaker 1: about the dark crystal. Yeah, we're talking labyrinth instead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna simplify it because, uh, you don't need
Speaker 1: to break this thing apart and look at every component
Speaker 1: like this article does. I mean, it really gets involved.
Speaker 1: What you should do is look at a picture of
Speaker 1: someone operating one and just because when you look at it,
Speaker 1: you go, it all makes a lot more sense, right,
Speaker 1: And there's really just three main parts to the whole thing.
Speaker 1: There's a vest, there's an arm that's attached to the vest,
Speaker 1: and then the other end of the arm is attached
Speaker 1: to what's called the sled, which is what the camera
Speaker 1: and um it's components are mounted on. Right, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that arm it um, I mean, just pick your picture
Speaker 1: yourself wearing a uh like a baby beyorn baby carrier,
Speaker 1: except for instead of the baby at your stern um,
Speaker 1: there's a mechanical arm coming out like a spring arm lamp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like accordion arm or spring arm lamp. Right, and it's
Speaker 1: virtually the same thing. Well, yeah, and you guess who
Speaker 1: made one of these by himself before they started making
Speaker 1: them for at home people. Who? Casey who? My brother
Speaker 1: of course? Oh did he really. Yeah. Yeah. My brother
Speaker 1: made one of these in like the early nineties out
Speaker 1: of door hinges and rubber bands and springs. Does he
Speaker 1: still have it? Is it in the Smithsonian? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's in the scottsn Ian, which is where all mentioned
Speaker 1: with all his pinball machines. Yeah, but he made one.
Speaker 1: He basically did the same thing. He he looked at
Speaker 1: it and looked at these uh swing arm lamps and
Speaker 1: accordion arm lamps, and it's like, well, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: I'll just make a version of that. It is, and
Speaker 1: it worked pretty good. It's virtually the same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the whole point of a steady camp is that
Speaker 1: it basically simulates or the arm at least simulates a
Speaker 1: human arm right to where it can move around very easily. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: And it redistributes the weight of the camera, which can
Speaker 1: be up to like seventy pounds I imagine probably more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole unit is pretty heavy and it's not easy
Speaker 1: to operate, but a wary out it holds it effortlessly,
Speaker 1: and it holds it in place. This arm does and
Speaker 1: it does it by using springs, and you can adjust
Speaker 1: the tension of the springs by using a cable and
Speaker 1: pulley system so that it offsets the balance of the
Speaker 1: camera and holds it in space in front of the
Speaker 1: camera operator basically so that they can move it effortlessly
Speaker 1: up down to the side. Um, you can put the
Speaker 1: camera on top of the sled so that you get
Speaker 1: high shots. You can switch it so it goes on
Speaker 1: the bottom so you can get low angle shots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the traditional it's called high mode and low mode, and
Speaker 1: high mode is uh, it doesn't mean it's high. It
Speaker 1: just means it's on the top of the unit. And
Speaker 1: then low mode is when it's on the bottom. So
Speaker 1: if you wanted to film a mouse running across the floor,
Speaker 1: you would put it in low mode. Right, if you
Speaker 1: want to film human you put it in high mode.
Speaker 1: And the camera itself is broken out into pieces, which
Speaker 1: is kind of an ingenious trick that I guess Garrett
Speaker 1: Brown came up with himself. I think he did. Um.
Speaker 1: And this is the this is the third part. The
Speaker 1: camera sled. Right. Yes, the sled is what holds all
Speaker 1: the right and it's basically a pole with a little
Speaker 1: bit at the top called the stage, and that's where
Speaker 1: the camera goes or it could be at the bottom
Speaker 1: wherever the camera is. The camera's mounted to the stage.
Speaker 1: Then you get the pole itself and then the I
Speaker 1: guess the arm is connected to the pole by a
Speaker 1: a gibble gimbal, A gimble, that's right. And it's like
Speaker 1: an old technology. It's basically something that uses basically a
Speaker 1: gyroscopic action to um take the movement of whatever is
Speaker 1: seeking to move, whatever you want to hold still, and
Speaker 1: getting rid of it. Like everything around it moves except
Speaker 1: for the thing that you want to hold still. It's
Speaker 1: pretty neat, it's super neat. And that's just the one
Speaker 1: arm that's connected to the pole. So you can see
Speaker 1: how complicated this thing is. That this guy sat back
Speaker 1: and I think in a hotel room somewhere you put
Speaker 1: it together, Garrett Brown, the first one. There's just the
Speaker 1: ingenuity it took to to put this together. It's pretty
Speaker 1: pretty in depth as far as inventions go. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's a little science to it. There's there's something called
Speaker 1: moment of inertia. It's basically how much that camera is
Speaker 1: resistant to rotation. So if you want the camera to
Speaker 1: be still, you want to increase that resistance to the rotation.
Speaker 1: And this is determined by a couple of different things, uh,
Speaker 1: how much mass there is to the object, and how
Speaker 1: far that mass is from the uh from its own
Speaker 1: axis of rotation. So by spreading the camera out, he
Speaker 1: basically took the little you know, cameras come with a
Speaker 1: monitor now so you can see what's going on in
Speaker 1: a big heavy battery. He took the monitor off of
Speaker 1: the camera. He took the battery off of the camera
Speaker 1: and redistributed that up and down the pole. So what
Speaker 1: he ended up doing was spreading out that mass, which
Speaker 1: takes away the center of gravity from the camera itself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because like with a regular camera where all the components
Speaker 1: are in one single unit, that center of gravity is
Speaker 1: inside the camera, so it's easy to rotate. But since
Speaker 1: he exploded it out into its various components, he made
Speaker 1: that center of gravity land somewhere on the pole, right,
Speaker 1: and the gimbal attaches to the pole just above the
Speaker 1: center of gravity, so that the camera operator holds the
Speaker 1: pole and manipulates the camera at the center of gravity,
Speaker 1: which makes it very easy to balance keep. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they do a good job in this article. If you'd like,
Speaker 1: just take a broomstick and you find that center of
Speaker 1: gravity with your finger. You can hold it with with
Speaker 1: your finger and lift it up and down right, and
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's balanced on your finger because you're
Speaker 1: hitting that center of balance. That's right. It's the same principle. Um.
Speaker 1: And in fact, if you took, uh, if you took
Speaker 1: that same broomstick and cut it off and you just
Speaker 1: had three ft of broomstick and just took your SLR
Speaker 1: camera and screwed that broomstick into the bottom of your
Speaker 1: camera instead of a tripod, that would function. You could
Speaker 1: walk around with that and it would be steadier than
Speaker 1: if you just had it in your hand. I could
Speaker 1: see that because of the change of the center of
Speaker 1: change of the center of gravity. And if you put
Speaker 1: a little counterweight at the bottom, it would make it
Speaker 1: even more steady. And that's the whole concept of the
Speaker 1: steadicam sled. Then attached that to an arm, that that
Speaker 1: accordion arm and you're cooking with gas. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: were saying like, if you walk around with just the
Speaker 1: pole holding or the broomstick, cut off broomstick and you're
Speaker 1: holding it um just with your hand, it's steady. The
Speaker 1: point of the arm is it's taking your hand out
Speaker 1: of the equation and replacing it with something that can
Speaker 1: isolate movement even more so that your movement of you
Speaker 1: walking just gets lost within the arm before it ever
Speaker 1: gets to the camera and could shake it. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: if you did it with a broomstick. Your arm is
Speaker 1: the same thing as a stead camera, right, except it's
Speaker 1: better if the steadicam arms is better than your human arm, right, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Pretty neat stuff. It is neat stuff. Um, and I
Speaker 1: think that's it for the science man. We made it through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all got to be very precisely balanced. Um,
Speaker 1: you don't just throw the stuff on the pole willy
Speaker 1: nilly though, And they point out that the balance of
Speaker 1: the camera can actually change during film, just from the
Speaker 1: film moving from one end to the camera to the
Speaker 1: other as as it records. Right. Well, yeah, in the
Speaker 1: old days when they use film, sure, nowadays it's just
Speaker 1: that digital card. Yeah, well not always quain Tarantino's camera
Speaker 1: operators have to deal with this. Yeah, And if you've
Speaker 1: ever been on a job with a steadicam, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of uh, there's a lot of breaks where
Speaker 1: I mean you can adjust them on the fly more now,
Speaker 1: but I remember there just being a lot of breaks
Speaker 1: with a steadicam up would say hold on, you know,
Speaker 1: I need five minutes, and they go over and they
Speaker 1: have a little stand that they put it on to
Speaker 1: take because you know, it takes the weight off to
Speaker 1: a certain degree, but it's still a lot of weight
Speaker 1: to be carrying on a vest on your chest, um
Speaker 1: and running and moving and doing all sorts of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a tough gig. Like there's a
Speaker 1: pretty amazing video did you watch it of that Eurovision shot.
Speaker 1: There's a guy from I think Belarus singing and they
Speaker 1: showed they showed him like he's like they they showed
Speaker 1: the shot and then they showed it somebody filming the
Speaker 1: shot being done, and the guy with the seticam wearing
Speaker 1: the vest rides down the aisle on a um segue.
Speaker 1: Is that what he's on? Yeah, pops off, runs up
Speaker 1: this ramp and then starts circling around the guy who's singing,
Speaker 1: and it's a pretty amazing thing. It's a great shot.
Speaker 1: But then when you see how it's done, Wow, that
Speaker 1: guy deserved a standing ovation. It would have been more
Speaker 1: impressive hit it not like the subject matter have been
Speaker 1: more interesting in the video quality been better, pretty pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Like if it was a Scorsese movie, you would be
Speaker 1: like wow, But it was just, you know, kind of corny. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it looked like an American idol or something
Speaker 1: it was, but it was American idol. If you took
Speaker 1: American idol at its peak and then spread it out
Speaker 1: over Eurasia and and like it was popular over that
Speaker 1: that large of a population. That's what your O vision is.
Speaker 1: That's right. So you want to talk about some of
Speaker 1: the shots when we come back after a break, please, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: So chuck, Um. In addition to that Rocky shot and
Speaker 1: that Eurovision shot, there are some other very famous shots,
Speaker 1: classic shots of all time. Uh yeah, that had to
Speaker 1: do with steadycam. It couldn't have been done with without
Speaker 1: steady cam. Well, The Shining is the first one that
Speaker 1: pops into most people's minds because, like we said, Kubrick
Speaker 1: was a big fan of this invention and immediately started
Speaker 1: talks with Garrett Brown on how to help him out
Speaker 1: with this movie, The Shining, that he was making. And um,
Speaker 1: apparently they kind of battled one another quite a bit
Speaker 1: on the side of the Shining, and Garrett Brown later
Speaker 1: admitted he said a lot of that was probably what
Speaker 1: do you call it, like inventors pride or something kind
Speaker 1: of getting in the way of this like brilliant all tour.
Speaker 1: So um, Kubrick already had his own ideas on how
Speaker 1: to best use this thing that this other guy invented. Um,
Speaker 1: and you know the shining classic example, those tricycle shots,
Speaker 1: the famous maze chase at the end, uh, very iconic
Speaker 1: in motion picture history. And UM, I mean the the
Speaker 1: how did they do? You know how they did that
Speaker 1: that shot behind Danny and his a little big wheel.
Speaker 1: They probably just went into low mode and uh like
Speaker 1: walked behind him or I ran down the hall after him.
Speaker 1: That's really impressive. So the Shining is a big one. Sure,
Speaker 1: Rocky is a big one. Good Fellas is another classic
Speaker 1: example to classic UM where Rayliota and Lorraine Brocko are
Speaker 1: going into the Cope cabana, but they go through the
Speaker 1: back and they're followed like throughout like the backstairs into
Speaker 1: the kitchen and then they finally come out into their
Speaker 1: table and UM, it's like one uninterrupted like five minute
Speaker 1: shot or something. It's amazing and it's um I think
Speaker 1: when you see this, you're you might see it and
Speaker 1: not be a discerning film you were and just say
Speaker 1: well that I didn't notice anything, which is probably good. Um,
Speaker 1: or you might be a fan of steady cam and
Speaker 1: just say, man, that was amazing. Uh. Then you have
Speaker 1: to step back and look at lighting and realize that
Speaker 1: how incredibly hard it is to light a shot like
Speaker 1: that that takes place over I don't know how many
Speaker 1: hundreds of feet but without seeing the lights in the shot.
Speaker 1: Well that or just consistent lighting and having it look good.
Speaker 1: I mean that's just usually you light for like a
Speaker 1: room or something, or a hallway, but to light all
Speaker 1: those different rooms and hallways and just incredibly I can't
Speaker 1: imagine how long it took to set that shot. You know,
Speaker 1: they were like, wait, what do you want to do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be great. Do'torry about stay with me. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know he's making another gangster movie. No, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, and it may be like the some
Speaker 1: folks are saying it's like, you know, his last Big
Speaker 1: Gangs your movie. Yeah, but it's got de Niro again. Uh.
Speaker 1: He had worked with him in a long time. UM
Speaker 1: Pacino and Joe Pesci is coming out of retirement. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know he was retired. I just thought he
Speaker 1: wasn't doing stuff anyway. Man, he retired. Yeah, so he's
Speaker 1: he's got the three heavy weights and supposedly Harvey cut Tail.
Speaker 1: Of course you gotta throw him in there. But I'm
Speaker 1: just like giddy thinking about this. Yeah, I'm glad he
Speaker 1: is because his last one was departed, right. No, he's
Speaker 1: made movies since then, like Wolf of Wall Street, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I thought was great. I know you didn't love it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was awesome. I thought everything. But what
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson did was was pretty good. Yeah, like his performance, No,
Speaker 1: I really didn't. Well, sorry, Jack, He'll forgive that because
Speaker 1: you like him as an actor, right yeah, okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: come on Return of the Jedi, the famous um Faeder
Speaker 1: bike chase scene and uh the indoor. Yeah, California's Redwood
Speaker 1: National Park doubled his indoor and that was Garrett Brown,
Speaker 1: uh walking and they sped it up. Yeah, but and
Speaker 1: then you're just like, wow, who cares. The reason why
Speaker 1: it's such an iconic steadicam shot is because he walked
Speaker 1: very slowly, and when you speed film up the tiny
Speaker 1: movements involved their telegraphed, they just become much more exaggerated.
Speaker 1: So without a steadicam when they sped the film up again,
Speaker 1: it would have been just so blurry and just jarring.
Speaker 1: It would have been unusable. Yeah, the fact that you
Speaker 1: can see the trees and stuff, and even at that
Speaker 1: high speed, it's all steadicam. Yeah, and people, I think
Speaker 1: it's just so easy to take it for granted now
Speaker 1: in movies when you see these shots. But to pioneer
Speaker 1: these these things and this equipment was remarkable. Uh, and
Speaker 1: nowadays you can they're all manner of at home steady cam.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do like my brother and build
Speaker 1: one out of spare parts and door hinges. You can
Speaker 1: buy one for not too much. You can. He's spent
Speaker 1: a hundred dollars on a on a decent enough little
Speaker 1: home steady cam. The this article says that the steadicam curve,
Speaker 1: which was made for go pros, it was like a
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. Yeah, well those are teeny tiny. And there's
Speaker 1: one for um the iPhone called um, what's it called,
Speaker 1: the Smoothie. That one is like it's like, I think
Speaker 1: even less than a hundred bucks, and it's just like
Speaker 1: a handheld camera stabilizer that works pretty well from what
Speaker 1: I can gather. Yeah, we should have had Casey, our
Speaker 1: video producer, Casey. He's in France right now though, Live
Speaker 1: in the High Life. Should we should have had Casey
Speaker 1: in here. Just given thumbs upper thumbs down to each
Speaker 1: one of these brands that we mentioned, and I would
Speaker 1: trust that is like the gospel truth. But Casey's not here,
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna say read online reviews. I also
Speaker 1: saw that there's like a lot of um gimbal based
Speaker 1: drone steady camps. Yeah, they are just not not that expensive.
Speaker 1: They're changing the game again because then you can do
Speaker 1: a shot where you follow someone by the swimming pool
Speaker 1: and then fly up into outer space with them if
Speaker 1: you want, in one continuous motion, like the Quisp Monster.
Speaker 1: What the Quisp monster? You remember the alien from Quisp Cereal?
Speaker 1: Do remember Quisp? Remember the weird alien sort of at
Speaker 1: an eat Quisp? Wasn't that a Captain crunch knock offer.
Speaker 1: It was a different It was different because they were
Speaker 1: saucer shaped rather than square waffle cut got you same
Speaker 1: thing though, yeah, same thing. It was good. It didn't
Speaker 1: cut the tongue like Captain crunch did oh yeah, the
Speaker 1: roof of the mouth. I'll suffer through that still. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then of course, uh, steady Cam is a name brand, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's made who makes it? Tiffin? Tiffin, Now that's what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think Tiffin does. They have a pretty
Speaker 1: good site, like if you alright all interested in this,
Speaker 1: like they've got a great site and they have all
Speaker 1: of their Steadicam models with a real like in depth
Speaker 1: overview of them and yeah pretty Uh. I think it's
Speaker 1: got all their manuals and everything just right there for
Speaker 1: you to read. Yeah, there's other companies making them. There's
Speaker 1: one called Glidecam in Vera Zoom. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: Steadicam is still probably the giant. It's like dollies. There's
Speaker 1: only two dolly makers well or there maybe more now,
Speaker 1: but it's like Chapman and Fisher and each you know,
Speaker 1: every dolly grip has the dolly makers. Yeah, Chapman Dollies
Speaker 1: or Fisher Dollies. It's kind of like Jamison or bush Mills,
Speaker 1: you know, adviser or course neither uh and then um
Speaker 1: Garrett Brown as if the steady Cam wasn't enough as
Speaker 1: far as revolutionizing filming goes. He later on invented something
Speaker 1: called the skycam, yeah, which like if you watch any
Speaker 1: kind of sporting event now especially it's especially useful for
Speaker 1: football in in football, um where like it's there's just
Speaker 1: cables above the field and there's cameras hanging down that
Speaker 1: are just like doing overhead shots following the action. Like
Speaker 1: it's nothing. It's pretty neat. Garrett Brown invented that too.
Speaker 1: I got one more little thing for you. Uh. There
Speaker 1: are two positions, uh not high mode. Low mode positions
Speaker 1: are like how you're operating the camera, but uh, if
Speaker 1: you are pointing forward as the operator and your camera
Speaker 1: is pointing forward, you're just walking. It's called missionary no.
Speaker 1: And then if you are uh if the operators forward
Speaker 1: and the camera is backward, they call that don juan.
Speaker 1: So leave it to film set goons to think of
Speaker 1: sexual names for sex it up camera positions, don Juan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never heard of that one. I hadn't either. Well,
Speaker 1: if you want to know more about steady camps, including
Speaker 1: a really really fine grain involved look the physics of
Speaker 1: how the steady cam arm works, you should go type
Speaker 1: steady cam into the search part how stuff works dot Com.
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