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We're hitting Wolves Warriors 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: off the top, kind of a typical type of what 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: you would expect from the best defense in the league 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: since the end of January versus Minnesota. In a game 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: like this, Minnesota has struggled against Golden State's defense. Kur 54 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: leans into Jonathan kaminga Jimmy Butler. We finally get the 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler hyper aggressive offensive game and we get a 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: hyper competitive, very entertaining basketball game until late in the 57 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: second half. Over the last quarter and a half, Anthony 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: Edwards and Julius Randall completely find a groove and build 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: some margin. The Warriors offense cools off late and the 60 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: Timberwolves take a two to one lead in that series. 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: Breaking down that game from the perspective both teams. After that, 62 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics looked like the Boston Celtics for the 63 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: first time in their series against the Knicks. I want 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: to go into some of the specific dynamics at play, 65 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: and I want to talk about what the rest of 66 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: this series is going to look like, because the Celtics 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: have to win four out of five games in order 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: to come back and win this series. And I want 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: to talk about the idea of how every basketball game 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: kind of takes on a different feel and how in 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: each specific type of basketball game it calls for different 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: types of approaches from both teams. And so we're going 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: to talk about what Boston needs to do in order 74 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: to get the additional three wins they need in the series. 75 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: And then the Knicks as well, we're going to dig 76 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: into some of the issues they were having with their 77 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: pick and roll coverage versus their switching and containing in 78 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: one on one situation. So lots of interesting stuff to 79 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: get into in both of these games. At the tail 80 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: end of the show, we'll take about ten to fifteen 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: minutes of questions from the chat, and then when we 82 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: are done here tonight, we're gonna head over to playback 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: dot tv slash Hoops Tonight for our usual after show. 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: There we get to have callers on stage, we look 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: at film, we get into more of an informal, interactive 86 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: kind of vibe over there. On playbacks, you guys can 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: join us again the links in the description, but playback 88 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: dot tv slash Hoops Tonight is where we will be 89 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: for the after show tonight. You guys have the joke 90 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: before we get started. Subscribe to the Hoops Tonight YouTube 91 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: channel so you don't miss any more of our videos. 92 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: Follow me on Twitter at underscore JSNLT so you guys 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: don't miss show announcements. So forget about a podcast few 94 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast on our Hoops Tonight. It's 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: also super helpful if you leave a rating and a 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: review on that front. Don't forget about the new social 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: media feeds we have on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook where 98 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: Jackson's doing great work. Follow us there. The last but not least, 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: keep dropping those mail back leussons in the chat so 100 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: we can get to them at the tail end of 101 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: the show. So this game pretty quickly took on a 102 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: simple dynamic. You have two elite defenses, right and especially 103 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: with the Golden State. Playing at home, you're going to 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: get an exceptionally good effort and in a desperation type 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: of situation too. Right, we've talked before after the Steph 106 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: curR hamstring injury, the Warriors basically have to get one 107 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: of these two games at home, because if they do, 108 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: that puts a game six guaranteed on the calendar. In 109 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: a game six is still more than a full week 110 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: from now, that is on May eighteenth, and so there's 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: a real opportunity there for Steph to potentially get back 112 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: and have a chance to play at the tail end 113 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: of this series. Now, as we know that's a tricky 114 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: hamstring injury, it might not even matter, but for any 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: hope that the Warriors have to advance in this postseason run, 116 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: it was going to depend on them getting one of 117 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: these two games at home. So you're expecting a certain 118 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: type of super intense effort, and so it pretty much 119 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: settled down into a shot creation contest between Julius Randall 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: and Anthony Edwards and the new iteration of the Warriors 121 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: without Steph. We talked last night about how Steve Kerr 122 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: got into the idea of how you have to basically 123 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: play a completely different brand of basketball in order to 124 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: make the situation work when you lose your star. One 125 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: of the things that's interesting about the Warriors roster construction 126 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: is it's built on a lot of defensive minded athletes 127 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: that are good read and react, players that operate well 128 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: in the inverted spacing that Steph provides. Meaning as Steph 129 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: is coming off of action and he's bringing multiple players out, 130 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: often bringing a big man out and a ball screen coverage, 131 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: there are these four on threes or three on two's 132 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: quick advantage situations that break down on the back line, 133 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: and on the back line it becomes very much a 134 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 2: make decisions athletes. You know, it's a very different game 135 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: than spacing the floor for a rim pressuring forward, right 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: Like if you're playing with Luca or Jannis sir Lebron, 137 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: it's like you need shooting. But the Warriors, they emphasized 138 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: more versatile athletes that can work with the advantages that 139 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: Steph creates on the perimeter to have success on the interior. 140 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: And so Steve Kerr essentially had to rebuild a basketball 141 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: team on the fly, and so he used Game two 142 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: as a launching ground. And what did we get. We 143 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: got a high dose of Jonathan Kaminga. We talked after 144 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: Game two about how Jimmy Butler would likely be much 145 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: more aggressive at home. We got a much more aggressive 146 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: version of Jimmy Butler tonight. He went for twenty six 147 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: shot attempts in this game. And then the same steady 148 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: died of Buddy Healed running off of screening action. So 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: essentially it turned into this new dynamic of the Warriors 150 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: versus the same old Minnesota Timberwolves with Anthony Edwards and 151 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: Julius Random And for the first two and a half quarters, 152 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: the Warriors were really controlling things and was in a 153 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: pretty big funk. Golden State's defense, as I mentioned earlier, 154 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 2: in their last thirty four games this season ample size 155 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: of almost a half of the season, they're the number 156 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: one defensive rating in basketball. They are I was thinking 157 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: about this earlier. I think this is the best defense 158 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: that Ant has played in his time in the NBA. 159 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: They are not as good at the rim in terms 160 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: of rim protection as Dallas was, but I think they're 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: much faster on the perimeter, much smarter, more well coached. 162 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: I think they're just a more dynamic defense overall. And 163 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: it's not exactly a slump in Draymond Green that you 164 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: have at the basket, or a slouch or whatever you 165 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: want to call it. Draymond's, you know, one of the 166 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: better rim protecting smaller bigs that we have in the league, 167 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: right And one of the things that Warriors have done 168 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: with Ant that's caused some problems for him is ball pressure. 169 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: They're picking him up and making him uncomfortable in his 170 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: like kind of dance with the basketball situations, and it's 171 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: forcing him to drive earlier in the schedule than he 172 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: wants to. And then in those situations, they keep throwing 173 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: bodies at him. He's over penetrating and trying to find 174 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: kickout opportunities while he's kind of indecisive in the lane. 175 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: He's slaloming through two or three guys at the basket, 176 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: trying to find a finishing angle to finish, and he's 177 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: smoking layups. He just was struggling for really the first 178 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: two and a half games of this series, but into 179 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: the second quarter tonight, and Julius Randall was struggling a 180 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: little bit too. 181 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: Tonight. 182 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: I was confused a little bit with his strategy because 183 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: he kept just trying to attack Draymond Green one on 184 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: one and like, I get it if it's late in 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 2: the shot clock, and like the you got toss a 186 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: grenade with five seconds left and you have to create something. 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: But with the way that you should look to approach 188 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: on offense for the first fifteen seconds of the shot clock, 189 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: you need to be hunting easier opportunities, a better matchup, 190 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: an advantage. You can create an action, some sort of 191 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: easier opportunity before you rely on isoting their best defender. 192 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: Like you, if you repeatedly attack their best defender, you're 193 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: just making life harder on you than it needs to be. 194 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: And so Julius was struggling a little bit, and then 195 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: with the Warriors, they were getting great production. Jimmy was 196 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 2: fantastic tonight scoring the basketball. We got that aggression from him. 197 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: Jonathan Comigio goes for thirty points. The Warriors actually won 198 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: his minutes tonight. Buddy healed early in the second half, 199 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: gets going, starts hitting some threes, and so the Warriors 200 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: built a little bit of margin. I think they ended 201 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: up going up by as much as seven. I'll pull 202 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: up the largest lead, but I think they want Yeah, 203 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: the largest lead was seven for the Warriors in that 204 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: early third quarter. 205 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: Stretch. 206 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: Right around that time, a couple things started to go 207 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: Minnesota's way. Ant got a couple decent catch and shoot 208 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: looks in off ball situations. We talked a little bit 209 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 2: about this in the Lakers series, the idea of Ant 210 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: being really good attacking closeouts off of Julius Randall post ups, 211 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: Ant got a little bit more rhythm with his jump shot. 212 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: Julius Randall started to have a little bit of success 213 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: against Raymond in large parks. Draymond got into some foul 214 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: trouble and then Draymond had to be a little bit 215 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: more conservative with his approach. 216 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: So he's like more gambling on. 217 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: Julius further out from the basket, trying to like disrupt 218 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: him before he even got into his attack, because he 219 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: knows once he gets into his attack, there's not much 220 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: contact that he can get away with there. And so 221 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, these cracks started to open up 222 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: and starts hitting even some tough pull up threes. I 223 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: was talking with Jackson before the show, like, you know Jackson, 224 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: obviously Jackson's a Celtics fan, but he also roots for 225 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: the Warriors, and he was like we were talking to 226 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: just about what it was like for me as a 227 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: Lakers fan watching Aunt repeatedly in these early fourth quarter stretches, 228 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: just hit these crazy difficult pull up threes, and it's 229 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: like you're in a groove, you're playing hard, your defense 230 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: is locked in, and it just doesn't matter because when 231 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: Ant goes into that step back move, there's really nothing 232 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: you can do but just hope he misses. And it's 233 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: just such a remarkable piece of athleticism to be able 234 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: to separate from a defender, a great defender late in 235 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: the clock, and then set your base and elevate up 236 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: over the top of a great contest, sometimes a double team, 237 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: and rise up and knock down a shot like that, 238 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it just was cooking and 239 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: gets a huge driving dunk on Kevon Looney, another amazing 240 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: dunk to add to Anthony edwards highlight reel of playoff 241 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: dunks in his career. Started in general to find some 242 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: more seams right at the front of the rim where 243 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: he was getting cleaner finishing angles, and all of a sudden, 244 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: what looked like a puzzle that Ant was struggling to 245 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: solve the finishes with thirty six points in this game, 246 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: and that was kind of my takeaway when we were 247 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: in that mid second quarter, mid third quarter stretch, I'm thinking, Okay, 248 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: this is the best defense that Aunt has ever played 249 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: in his career. They're kind of kicking his butt a 250 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: little bit. We talked about this after Game one. Let's 251 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: see if it can figure it out, like is this 252 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: going to be like the Dallas series where it didn't 253 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: really seem like he ever made any headway, or is 254 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: he going to make some headway? And like, here's the thing, 255 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: there's no doubt that not having Steph Curry out there 256 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: changes the dynamic of the game. And I'm not trying 257 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: to sit there and pretend like this is the most 258 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: challenging win of Anthony Edwards's career. 259 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: It's not. 260 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: But this is a very good defense. And he did 261 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: start to find some ways that he could get going 262 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: off ball and catch and shoot situations, driving closeouts, got 263 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: a little bit more comfortable and in a rhythm as 264 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: a pull up shooter and starting to find those driving 265 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: angles closer to the basket. I think there's even more 266 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: room for improvement with him. He gets a little bit 267 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: rushed going downhill to where there's not a lot of 268 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: change of pace. We talked about this on playback a 269 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: couple nights ago, But Anthony Edwards is taking about half 270 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: as many mid range jump shots as he did in 271 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: last year's postseason run. He just was a little bit 272 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: more willing to work in the middle of the floor 273 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: at that point, and I think there's a little there's 274 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: still a growth that can that grant and can benefit 275 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: from in the form of just being more comfortable operating 276 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: at a slower pace or with change of pace in 277 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: the middle of the floor and making better use of 278 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: that mid range jump shot. I think there's a lot 279 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: of opportunity for him to improve. But the indomitable scoring 280 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: talent was on display in that second half. It didn't 281 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: matter that he's a little one dimensional at this point 282 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: in time, or that he still isn't reading the floor 283 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: as great as he could potentially thirty six points against 284 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: the best defense in the NBA. In my opinion and 285 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: Julius Randall, he's been sneaky, fantastic stick this entire postseason run. 286 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: I didn't like his game one of this series, but 287 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: for the most part in the Lakers series, in the 288 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: most part in this series, he's consistently been very comfortable 289 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: operating out of the mid post and out of the 290 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: low post. He's been playmaking at an extremely high level. 291 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: Goes for a triple double tonight twenty four, ten and twelve. 292 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: His passing out of the mid to high post has 293 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: been a consistent, kind of like underrated part of his game. 294 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: He's actually one of the better, like kind of entry 295 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: points for Minnesota to use, just because at this point 296 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: he's more willing to hunt those advantages than ant Is. 297 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: And again ant will figure that stuff out in time. 298 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: But at the end of the game, you know, it 299 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: was funny because Jackson and I were talking, like the 300 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: Warriors did everything tonight that they could have done. You 301 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: get two thirty point performances out of at Like if 302 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: you if you would have told me before this game 303 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: that you're gonna get thirty three out of Jimmy and 304 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: thirty out of Jonathan Kaminga, you're thinking a Warriors win, right, 305 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: But it just was that much better for Manton Julius. 306 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: They were able to get the job done second half. 307 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: And here's the thing, Like, I think the Warriors have 308 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: exposed some obvious flaws in this Minnesota attack on both 309 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: ends of the floor in terms of their attentiveness to ball, 310 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: in player movement, in terms of their vulnerability to the 311 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: offensive glass when they're in rotation, in terms of just 312 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: their ability to handle ball pressure and physicality in a 313 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: better defensive construct than what they've attacked in some of 314 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: these playoff series. But you just need to get through 315 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: this series and then maybe, if you're lucky, Denver beats 316 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City and that's a team that you've had their 317 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: number for the last two years now. So like the 318 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: finals are there there, there there's a pathway there for 319 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: Minnesota to get through this and to get all the 320 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: way to the finals. And I think they match up 321 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: pretty well with the teams coming out of the Eastern Conference. 322 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: And you know, I was actually thinking about this the 323 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: other day. I think you could talk me into all 324 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: eight teams in this postseason run being a legitimate championship contender. 325 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: Indiana. 326 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: You know, obviously, at a rough game three, I wouldn't 327 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: be the least bit surprised if they beat Cleveland, beat 328 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: whoever came out of the Nix Celtics series, and then 329 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: beat whoever came out of the West. That's certainly a possibility. 330 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: I could see Denver winning the West. I could see Okay, 331 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: see still coming back and win the series. I could 332 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: see Boston repeating. I could see Cleveland getting, you know, 333 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: just wiping the floor with Indiana for the next three 334 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: games and then running into a Celtics team that's stilling 335 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: a little bit of a funk and getting it done. Like, 336 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: it feels wide open at this point, and there is 337 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: a legitimate pathway for Minnesota to work through. 338 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: Here. You get a really. 339 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: Good opportunity to finish this series off against a Warriors 340 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: team that's missing their best player. You have a potentially 341 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: great matchup waiting for you with the team leading to 342 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: one in the next round, and Denver a team that 343 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: you've had their number consistently. And then I can't think 344 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: of a type of team that I'd like to see 345 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: more against a Boston I think, you know, I think 346 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: after today we could all agree that Boston is still 347 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: probably the favorite to win the East and Minnesota would 348 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: just be such a fun matchup in that series with 349 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: their ability to switch and contain. Basically, Minnesota is a 350 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: much much better version of Orlando, and we saw what 351 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: Orlando was able to do at times against the Celtics. 352 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: So super super interesting series on the Warriors front. A 353 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: couple of specific things. You This was the game that 354 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: I had kind of marked as the best chance they 355 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: had to steal one, but it was very unlikely you 356 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: were going to get both. You really just need to 357 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: get one. So it's just all eyes turned to Monday 358 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: night now and you got to figure out a way 359 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: to get that particular game. And again, as you've proven 360 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: you can make this offense uncomfortable, you can slow them down. Minnesota, 361 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: to their credit, kind of got going in that second half. 362 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: They had sixty two points. That goes to show you 363 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: how important it is for your best player to produce 364 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: when you get into these settings. But this is going 365 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 2: to be fun series, and it's going to come down 366 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: to Game four. Whoever wins Game four is going to 367 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 2: be in a really good position moving forward. If the 368 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: Warriors win, then they got Steph coming back and a 369 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: good chance to win the series. And if Minnesota wins, 370 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: are going home three to one and probably closing this 371 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: thing out in five. All right, let's move on to 372 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: Celtics Knicks. Over the course of the last two games, 373 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: we've been talking a lot about the concept of offensive 374 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: versatility and essentially what that means is like, you know, 375 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: we were talking about this with the Thunder Denver series 376 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: last night, right, Like the uh for Denver, they just 377 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: have so many different ways that they can attack, Like, Okay, 378 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: this is a series where we're just spamming Yokic post ups. No, 379 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: this is going to be a series where we're running 380 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: a ton of Jokic Murray two man game right in 381 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: the middle of the floor. Oh, we got this matchup. 382 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon is a legitimate post matchup hunter, Like we 383 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 2: can go to him. There there's like a five out 384 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: flow with ball and player movement, with Yokic kind of 385 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: flowing side to side and everyone involved in sweeping side 386 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: to side action that they could go to. They have 387 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: a devastating transition attack. They have just such a versatile 388 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: offense that they can like identify the situation and be like, 389 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: this is the way we're gonna go kind of like 390 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: for instance, late in game one, Denver spams post ups 391 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: for Yokics right in the middle of the floor because 392 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: Yokic is having the greatest game of his life. Game three, 393 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: Yokic just having probably the worst game I've seen him play, 394 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you know, Yokic is still 395 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: involved late and he still is looking to score, but 396 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: it's a lot more diverted to Jamal Murray and letting 397 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: him be aggressive in those situations. Trusting Aaron Gordon to 398 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: take a big three in the left corner when he 399 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: gets left open in the transition sequence. There's just they 400 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: have the ability to adapt to the surrounding circumstances. The 401 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: reason why that matters is every basketball game is different. 402 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: Your stars are in different rhythm from game to game. 403 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: Like we talked Jamal Murray great rhythm Game three, jokicnot 404 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 2: Jokics great rhythm. In game one, Murray not right. You 405 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: go into tonight's game with the Celtics, it's like Game one. 406 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: In game two, Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown consistently kind 407 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: of like in a funk out of rhythm. Tonight Tatum 408 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: and Brown in great rhythm. Fundamentally different basketball game, different 409 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: role players. Oh, Like tonight, this guy's really engaged, locked in, 410 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: he's doing his job, he's not making mistakes, he's hitting shots. Well, 411 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: this next game he's just a little bit more off 412 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: in those areas. That's why their role players. Role players 413 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: are inherently inconsistent. If they were amazing at knocking down, 414 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: catching ju threes, an amazing at offending every single night. 415 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: They'd be a thirty million dollar player on the wing. 416 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: That's what that type of position, a bona fide great 417 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: two way, three and D wing, is a thirty million 418 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: dollar player in today's league. And so the point is 419 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: is there is a lot of inherent inconsistency in the 420 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: way basketball games go. So, for instance, the Celtics have 421 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: like a core basketball philosophy, their willingness to create advantages 422 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: hunting mismatches and to drive and kick for quality catch 423 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 2: and shoot threes. That's like their foundational approach on the 424 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: offensive end of the four. Game one, they just played 425 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: the dumbest half of basketball I've ever seen. There's not 426 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: a whole lot to get into other than they just 427 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: played really dumb basketball in the second half. Game two 428 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: was very different. Their core philosophy failed them. They played 429 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: Celtics basketball just fine in the second half and missed shots. Now, 430 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: they didn't have another method that they could. We'll talk 431 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: more about that concept in a little bit, but the 432 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: point is is that their core offensive philosophy failed. Tonight 433 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: was a classic example of the Celtics core formula working 434 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: and working extremely well. We've all seen the Celtics win 435 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: exactly that type of game one hundred times over the 436 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: last couple of years. They came right out and hit 437 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 2: six of their first seven threes, and they were the 438 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: same types of shots they were missing in the first 439 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: two games. Tatum hits a pull up three and against 440 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: drop coverage. Jalen Brown same Shoty bricks at the tail 441 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: end of Game two that dropped coverage three right at 442 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: the top of the key, hits it to start this game. 443 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: Derek White hits like a contested step back three in 444 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: a late clock situation. Kat sinks in a little too 445 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: far off Al Horford swing pass. There's a contest, but 446 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: Horford knocks down that mildly contested three that he was 447 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: missing in the first two games of the series. You 448 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: could feel the confidence dynamic completely swing after that happened. 449 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: Boston only had one thirty point quarter in the entire 450 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: series before today. Then they had two back to back 451 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: thirty five point quarters. To start today's game, Peyton Pritchard 452 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: exploded for twenty three points. The Celtics offense hummed at 453 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: the level we knew they were capable of humming at 454 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: because we've seen it one hundred times. They got that 455 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: engine going. New York just folded from there. And by 456 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: the way, Boston's defense was incredible. We're about to talk 457 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: about that in a minute. But New York also just 458 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: kind of lost their confidence and played some really poor 459 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: offensive basketball. Brunton all the way down. Kat was the 460 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 2: guy hitting a couple shots early in the game, but 461 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: he was the primary defense of culprit. No one was 462 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: really playing well. Mkhale and o g were both at rhythm. 463 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: Josh Hart's first couple catch and shoot threes were like 464 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: very clearly, very short, right out of his hand, Like 465 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: you could just tell. Everybody was like shook by the 466 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: way that Boston was playing, and they were just never 467 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: able to recover. Now, again, there will be different types 468 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: of games in this series. Let's shelf that con set 469 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: for just a second. I want to just shout out 470 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: Boston's defense. I thought down the line, everyone was great, 471 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Tatum and Brown switching in and out of action with 472 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: pressure and physicality efforts at the rim from Derek White. 473 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: Drew Holliday did another great job on Jalen Brunson tonight. 474 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: But I want to specifically highlight the Biggs because I 475 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: thought Horford, Porzingis, and Cornett were all amazing in this game. 476 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: Cornett continues to impress he's become like a legitimate playoff 477 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: rotation piece for this team, especially in the universe forar 478 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: Houser is injured. But like, all three of the bigs 479 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: just kicked New York's butt on both ends as athletes. 480 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: They combined for six blocks with their efforts around the rim. 481 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: Horford and Cornett had five offensive rebounds. Those dudes were 482 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: throwing people around like rag dolls to try to find 483 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: offensive rebounding opportunities. I just thought all three of those 484 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: guys played with more force than the New York front 485 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: court and really controlled this game. I mean, like this 486 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: was the first game of the series where the Mitchell 487 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: Robinson minutes did not New York's way. They just got 488 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: physically dominated while also throwing a great offensive punch, and 489 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: the result is thirty point lead, completely insurmountable. Yeah, there's 490 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: a couple of third quarter pushes from the Knicks, but 491 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: when you're pushing down from thirty one, it's different than 492 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 2: when you're pushing down from twenty. The eight to zero 493 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: run doesn't cut the lead to twelve and let light 494 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: the crowd on fire. 495 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: The eight to zero run. 496 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: Cuts the lead to twenty three, and it's a bigger 497 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: lead than it was even in those peak moments in 498 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: Game one in Game two. Now, looking forward in this series, 499 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: a couple of things for the Knicks. I still think 500 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: they're conceding too many openings. What I mean by that 501 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: is like in their natural ball screen coverages when they're 502 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: hedging and recovering with Brunson, but mainly the drop with Kat, 503 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: they're getting fried in those situations. They were giving up 504 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: quality looks in those situations in the first two games, 505 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: they just weren't going in. They have consistently been better 506 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: in this series when they've just switched and contain the ball. 507 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: Simple stat to demonstrate this tonight, the Celtics shredded the 508 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: Nickson pick and roll. They got an offensive rating over 509 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: one twenty, including passes on ball screens where they were 510 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: using some sort of traditional ball screen coverage post ups 511 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: and ISOs. Boston ran twenty seven post ups and ISOs 512 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: in this game and got just sixteen points out of them. 513 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 2: It's very clear in the numbers that when they switch 514 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: and contain like there was a like there are examples 515 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: where you know, Tatum's got cat on the wing, and 516 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: they just kind of gap off of him pretty well, 517 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: and he's kind of sitting up there stunting, and they 518 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: just throw a swing pass and get out of it. 519 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: Like they're not doing a good job hunting these things 520 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: one on one. They're just taking advantage of the natural openings, like, Oh, 521 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: you're going to concede a pick and pop three to Horford. 522 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: That's going in. 523 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna sit back the cat like in a 524 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: deep drop coverage against Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. Like, Yeah, 525 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: they've been missing their pull up threes in this series, 526 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 2: but they're sht capable of making them, and so I 527 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: still think their pathway moving forward is switch contain, bait 528 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: them into those poor isolation decisions. And then for the Celtics, 529 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: as I mentioned, there will be very different types of 530 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 2: games in this series, just purely jump shooting. Result Boston 531 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: got one point two eight points per jump shot tonight, 532 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: the Knicks got zero point eighty five. Another simple way 533 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: to explain that is over the course of one hundred 534 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: jump shots, the Celtics produced at a rate of forty 535 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: three points more per one hundred jump shots than the Knicks. 536 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: They out shot the shit out of them tonight. Okay, 537 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: that will probably happen again in this series. Like I 538 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: think we all could probably agree, this series is going 539 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: at least six and there's gonna be another game in 540 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: this series where Boston just does what they did tonight 541 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: and you basically just shake their hand and say congrats 542 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: on the win. But there will be different types of games. 543 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: There will be a game, for instance, where the Knicks 544 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: just shoot better, and if they do, it's a closer game, 545 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: and if they do, there's more pressure on some of 546 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: these tougher shots that's Boston's taking. And it's very possible 547 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: that they find themselves in a situation where they go 548 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 2: cold and the Knicks get a bunch of momentum in 549 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: it's early fourth quarter, and all of a sudden, that 550 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: thirteen point third quarter lead for Boston is down to five. 551 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: The crowd is raucous. There's a timeout called Boston goes 552 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: in their next couple of possessions, misses a couple of threes, 553 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: and it's. 554 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: Like, what do you do now? 555 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: Because if you allow that situation to play out and 556 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: you stay cold like you did in the first two games, 557 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what kind of large volume production you're 558 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: getting from your three point shot, if you can't score 559 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 2: on those key possessions late while Jalen Brunson has been 560 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: the best closer in the league this season, and he's 561 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: killing you on the other end of the four and 562 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: so that's where I want to see what Boston does. 563 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: There will be there if Boston's gonna win the series, 564 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: they got to win four out of five games. I 565 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: find it highly unlikely that they just shoot the piss 566 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: out of the basketball for straight times and win the series. 567 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: Maybe they do, but I think if Boston's gonna win 568 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: this series, they're gonna have to win another one of 569 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: those ugly rock fights. And I'll just be really curious 570 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: to see what Boston's attack looks like when they end 571 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: up in that situation. All right, Jackson, Let's do a 572 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: solid ten minutes of questions here. 573 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 574 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 4: First question, Well, all of our questions are basically about 575 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: the Warriors Wolves. First question, POD's was awful tonight, shot 576 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 4: one of ten and only had two assists. Should the 577 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: Warriors shorten his minutes? 578 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: So I this is complicated because I saw a lot 579 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: of people saying stuff about how about how Pozemski was 580 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: playing throughout the game, and I think it's more nuanced 581 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: than I'm seeing on Twitter, Like I'm seeing people that 582 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: are just saying he sucks, and then. 583 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: I'm seeing, you know, I'm seeing. 584 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: Tim Legler talk about how he's being, you know, amazing 585 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: in all these other ways, and I'm seeing Pojemski being 586 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: really effective in every single way except for offense, and 587 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: on that offensive end of the floor, I still think 588 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: there's some poor shot selection going on. Like, on the 589 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: one hand, you have to empower him a little bit 590 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: to where because without Steph you need offensive production. There's 591 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: got to be a certain amount of leash that he has. 592 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: But there were like three or four shots he took 593 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: tonight where I was like, that's not the one you 594 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: need to pay like, And so you need to acknowledge 595 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: that he's defending like crazy, and he's rebounding extremely well, 596 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: and he's making good connective passing leads. But I would 597 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: love to see him trim like two or three of 598 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: those bad shots out. Another way to another way to 599 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: look at it, guys, is like this game was winnable 600 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: three or four possessions go a different way. You win 601 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: if instead of a seven point lead, you get it 602 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: up to thirteen, you probably win. And so I just 603 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: think that there's a there's still a little bit of 604 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: refinement Jackson, And you mentioned to me before we went live, 605 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: like the just a couple of mistakes Kaminga made late, 606 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: like just hesitating on that last little catch in the 607 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: middle of the lane that allowed him to get stripped 608 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: before he went up, Just like little tiny things that 609 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: could make a big difference over the course of the series. 610 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. 611 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: It's easy to nitpick pause, but to your point, when 612 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: Steph is out, you kind of got to just say 613 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: play free to everybody, right, you can't be like, you 614 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: can't be encouraging people to pass up open shots. Really 615 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: you're you're struggling to create offense, and it doesn't mean to 616 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 4: take bad shots, but you can't be trying to limit 617 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: your players, especially ones like Pods who are usually operating 618 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: off someone off in a sort of secondary sort of situation. 619 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 4: There were a couple very very open threes that he 620 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 4: missed that would have been big run extenders for the Warriors, 621 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: And I can definitely understand getting upset that feeling like 622 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: he needs to make those but the the critique about 623 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: the assist number, he's not tripped playing tree youngbo, No, No, 624 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: he is. He's important to their offensive flow even though 625 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: he needs to make more shots, and he led the 626 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: team in rebound. So like it or not, this is 627 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: sort of with Moses Moody playing that's bad, especially like 628 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: you don't have a lot of options. 629 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: What are supposed to do? 630 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: Who are supposed to get more minutes to if you're 631 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 4: taking away pods, if you're dropping his minutes, you know 632 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: what I mean. 633 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: And he was minus two and thirty nine minutes. Like again, 634 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: he's one for ten from the field. There's he takes 635 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: two or three better shots or like passes up on 636 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: two or three bad ones. To your point, hit a 637 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: couple of those run extending type of threes. All of 638 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: a sudden, he's playing a fantastic game. And we're talking 639 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: about like kind of like a like a special game 640 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: in his career. The big thing that I'm seeing on film, 641 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: he's shooting a little bit of a flat ball right now, 642 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: so he's getting some unfortunate bounces and this dude is 643 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: getting clean opportunities in the mid range for floaters. 644 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: He has got to get that floater, polished up. 645 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: That needs to be a shot that he can hit 646 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: consistently because that's there for him. But once once again 647 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: with the floater, he's shooting it flat and so he's 648 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: not getting very good roles on it. 649 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 4: And I think we got also remember that he is 650 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 4: a still a very very despite him playing kind of 651 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: not a not young style of game. He plays a 652 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 4: very veteran game. For the most part, I think he 653 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: is still a very very twenty two. He's younger than 654 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 4: a and he had and because of that, he's gonna 655 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 4: have some really good like he had some a couple 656 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: two games, I want to say, in the Houston series 657 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 4: where he was cashing all of his mid range pull ups, 658 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: he's hitting those awkward step throughs, he's getting people up 659 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 4: in the air. And then he had a couple of 660 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 4: games where he shot really poorly. And that's for a 661 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 4: guy who's no one is expecting to become a high high, 662 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 4: high level scorer like I just don't think that's really 663 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 4: in his range of outcomes, even though I think he's 664 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: a very good player. That's what's gonna happen to a 665 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 4: guy who's in his what is the third year, like 666 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 4: it just sort of he's. 667 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: Got such good lift and his he's got a nice 668 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: compact release to where like I do think he could 669 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: be a very good catch and shoot player eventually me too. 670 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: It's there, It's there. It just it's and that's the thing, 671 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 3: like this is with Pods. 672 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up his age because I think 673 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: I think there's a he does just play like Vet 674 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: and he's been one of the guys that's consistently been 675 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: and Steve's like kind of inner circle of guys that 676 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: he trusts, and he's he gets so much more leeway 677 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: for poor shooting result than Moody does because he's just 678 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: such an impact in all these different areas. But like, ultimately, 679 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: like this is a development process and in the same way, 680 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: like I feel like Austin Reeves has to make substantial 681 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: improvements in terms of his strength, dealing with like bigger 682 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: physical players and holding up better defensively. With Pods, it's 683 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: becoming a more consistent offensive player. 684 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: We saw it. 685 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: I mean we watched that chunk of games there towards 686 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: the end of the season. There was like a multi 687 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: month stretch where Pods shot like forty two percent from 688 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: three and was getting buckets and having some really big games, 689 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: and so it's in there. But as we always talk about, 690 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: it's like the the hot stretches for younger players tend 691 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: to be shorter and the slumps tend to be longer. 692 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: And part of being a VET is like extending your 693 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: success and limiting your failure and failure, and it just 694 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: takes time. It just takes time to figure that stuff 695 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: out for sure. 696 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: Next question about Anthony Edwards. Do you think with Ant 697 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 4: was having a difficult time figuring out the defense in 698 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 4: the first half or did he have low focus or intensity? 699 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 4: I believe Ant has a focus issue sometimes when there's 700 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 4: no pressure. What do you feel like was going wrong 701 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: for Ant in the first half compared to the second 702 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 4: In general? 703 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: I felt like it was a combination of two things. 704 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: The ball pressure just kind of rushing him into like 705 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: kind of like attacks without a plan, so to speak. 706 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 2: And then the jump shot. Like the Ant's jump shot. 707 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: He's a very good jump shooter, but he can go 708 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: through kind of like extended stretches where it's like a 709 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 2: little flat and he's leaving it short and it just 710 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: is like a little bit off. And I think like 711 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: some of that is natural, like you shoot yourself out 712 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 2: of a slump and then suddenly the shots start to 713 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: go down, And that's very much what happened in that 714 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: second half. But my biggest thing with him moving forward 715 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: is just like having a little bit more of like 716 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: a controlled approach to his drives. It almost reminds me 717 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: of like watching the young Lebron and young Wade type athletes, 718 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: where like they kind of just only know one speed 719 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: going downhill, but then all of them when they got older, 720 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 2: they became these guys that would put guys in jail 721 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: and do some more methodical work in the middle of 722 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: the floor. And that's really the big thing for me 723 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: with An and his growth is I think he just 724 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 2: has to become a guy. He's never going to be 725 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: able to process moving at that speed. He's too fast. 726 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: He's too fast for his own good. Like he's got 727 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: to find a way to like, oh, I see it, seem, 728 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: I'm going for it. But if I don't see it seem, 729 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: don't just go and then improvise because that's where he 730 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: ends up trying to knife through three bodies and he 731 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 2: smokes a layup. It's like if you see an opening 732 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: and you see congestion behind it, beat your man off 733 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: the dribble, get him stuck on your side or behind you, 734 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: and let the play develop, and they're going to be 735 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: easier opportunities that come from that. I think it's all 736 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: just part of his growth process. 737 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 4: I think that young Lebron and Wade comparison is so true. 738 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 4: And I was thinking about it just in comparison to 739 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 4: someone like Luca who has never been a superstar athletes. 740 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 4: So he's forced if he's gonna be, you know, a 741 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 4: high level player, which he is, obviously, to play that 742 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 4: stop and start, have the change and pays master all 743 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 4: of the sort of nuances of playing offense, where when 744 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 4: you're Anthony Edwards you haven't had to until right now. 745 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 4: Basically you've been able to just be a super athlete 746 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: and a great shooter. And that gets you pretty frickin' fass. 747 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 4: It does, and that and and he's also very young, 748 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 4: and so now he's reaching a point where he if 749 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 4: he wants to take the next step, he's gonna have 750 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: to do those things. 751 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 3: And I don't doubt he's going to. That's the that's 752 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 3: the fun thing with Anthony Edws. 753 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 2: We were literally talking about this last night, like he's 754 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: so far from where he's going to be. Like, this 755 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: kid's gonna get so much better. It's like he's what 756 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: twenty three played up. Yeah, he played like very much 757 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: like a ram his head into the brick wall type 758 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 2: of game tonight and still had thirty six. So like 759 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: there's a there's there's just a version of this kid's 760 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: career that could go to Like I, I do not 761 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: know how good it can be, but I do know 762 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: that he can be the best player in the league. 763 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 3: Will he get there? 764 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, but like I, he legitimately has that potential. 765 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: He's that type of special athlete that dunk on lou 766 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 2: there's like a the dunky miss the one he missed 767 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: on Trace Jackson Davis, the two hand like cockback, like 768 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: like like. 769 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 3: Dude, that was from Oh my god. 770 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: That like he we were talking about this last night 771 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: with respect to like Donovan Mitchell. There's like athletic and 772 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: then there's transcendently athletic, and it's just one of those 773 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 2: guys and that just means that any skill development is 774 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: going to leap him up another level. It's like, how 775 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 2: did he produce at this playoff level in his playoff career. 776 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 3: He's just been a steady. 777 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 2: Forty three point shooter in his playoff career like that, 778 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: because he gets such great lift in separation. Once he 779 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: adds the methodical processing and all that stuff and all 780 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: the in between game, it's just gonna the skuy's. 781 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: The limit for him, for sure. Let's say one more 782 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: question and then we'll go over to playback. 783 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 4: If the Wolves win Game four, do you think Steph 784 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 4: will push himself to come back maybe a little earlier 785 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 4: than he should with their. 786 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 3: Season on the line. Obviously you can't come to his brain. 787 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: No, you know, if Steph, if the Wolf lose Game four, 788 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: I shut Steph down for the season, and that the 789 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: reasoning is pretty simple. Like the Warriors made it pretty 790 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: clear to Steph by all indications after they made the 791 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler trade that this was a two year window 792 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: that they were gonna try this year and that they 793 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: would try again next year. They have the assets at 794 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 2: their disposal to make a substantial move this summer to 795 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 2: anchor them with even more talent. They can go get 796 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 2: a you know, potentially a guy like a Cam Johnson, 797 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: or they could go get like a or like a 798 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 2: Patrick Williams from Chicago something like that, Like they can 799 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 2: go get a good player that can be useful for 800 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: this team and and and and potentially have more firepower 801 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: for this setting. Next year, I think we'll even look 802 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: I think we'll even see them look for I think 803 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 2: Cam Johnson is just such an obvious fit because it 804 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 2: kind of checks two boxes. It's like the it's the 805 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 2: clear three that they desperately need in terms of just 806 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 2: like that rangy athlete that can guard the ball, but 807 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: also that provides a legitimate scoring pop instead of inconsistent 808 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: role player like maybe Pods is making a shot today 809 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. It's like Cam, Cam's gonna average twenty 810 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: points a game for you. 811 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 4: Cam's just a better version of Buddy Hoult. 812 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,959 Speaker 3: Kind of absolutely great. 813 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 2: That's a great point looking at how useful Buddy's been 814 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 2: in this offense, Like. 815 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: So he's been so good, Yeah, and like that, that 816 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: would be the. 817 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: Buddy Heal's trajectory from his early career to what he's 818 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 2: done for Golden State, where like last year, in addition 819 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: to him just being a guy that was a frustrating 820 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: player for his entire career, it was it two years 821 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: ago that he played for Philly or was it last year. 822 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 3: I think it was last year. 823 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, the the series where he steps in for Philly 824 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: and everyone's like, man, Buddy Heel, it's like useless in 825 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: the playoffs, Like what does he do? 826 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: Like? 827 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: And he's been like legitimately reliably good night tonight for 828 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 2: them for the last couple of weeks in a way 829 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: that's been really important. And so if they can take 830 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 2: Buddy Heel, which to your point is just literally a 831 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: lesser player than Cam Johnson in every single way and 832 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: turn him into like a core part of their five 833 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: best players in these lineups, then you can only imagine 834 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 2: what a guy like Cam could do. But the point is, 835 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: if you go down three to one, you're not winning 836 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 2: Game five that Minnesota without Steph, even if you did, 837 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 2: like he's got to turn around and play again and 838 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 2: again and again and go right into the next round. 839 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 2: Like your best case scenario is coming back from down 840 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 2: three to one and winning in a Game seven before 841 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 2: you roll up either into the Denver Nuggets will beat 842 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 2: you up on the inside or the Oklahoma City Thunder 843 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: will beat you up on the outside. There's just like 844 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: no version of that that like Steph is gonna be 845 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: near the peak of his ability where he needs to 846 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: be to be good enough to win that that type 847 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 2: of stretch of games. And so at that point, you 848 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: cut your losses, You let Steph get a good summer rehab, 849 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 2: no chance of re injuring that hamstring. We've seen a 850 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 2: lot of examples in NBA history of like dudes hurting 851 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 2: their hamstring and then not being the same, like Devin Booker, 852 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: like James Harden like, but a lot of that is 853 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: like them trying to come back and play and re 854 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 2: injuring it and re injuring it and re injuring it, 855 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: and so like there's a version of this where Steph 856 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 2: could get one hundred percent recovery and then you're just 857 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: a better basketball team next year. I do think, And 858 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 2: let me ask you this, Jackson, before we move over 859 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 2: to playback. Do you think the Warriors have done enough 860 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 2: to this point. Let's say they lose Game four and 861 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 2: they lose Game five, do you think the Warriors have 862 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 2: done enough at this to this point to justify making 863 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 2: a really aggressive trade this summer and going for it 864 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 2: next year. 865 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 3: I do. I think so too. I do. 866 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 2: This defense is real, It's so real. Their defense is real. 867 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 2: Steph has proven that he can still reach that level 868 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: in this postseason. Jimmy Butler has as well every time 869 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: that they've needed him to do. So there's you know, 870 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 2: there's there's just there's still Like we talked about the 871 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: young players, Moody and Pajemski and Trace Jackson, Davis and 872 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 2: all those guys getting another year, Quintin post getting another year. 873 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: You know, you make another nice move on the margins, 874 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 2: you make a bigger trade. This is absolutely a team 875 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: that has some legitimate chance next year, and so everything 876 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 2: has to be a calculated risk. I wouldn't bring Steph 877 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: back under any circumstances unless it's Game six, and like 878 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: it's unless the series gets pushed to game six. That's 879 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: the only scenario where I would consider it. All right, guys, 880 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: that's all we have for tonight. As far as YouTube, 881 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna be heading over to playback again. That's playback 882 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 2: dot tv slash Hoops tonight. You can also find it 883 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 2: in the description. We'll hang out for another forty five 884 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 2: minutes or so, we'll take callers. We'll just kind of 885 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 2: hang out and talk hoops for a little bit longer. 886 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 2: What's up guys, As always, I appreciate you for listening 887 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 2: to and supporting OOPS tonight. It would actually be really 888 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: helpful for us if you guys would take a second 889 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 2: and leave a rating and a review. 890 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: As always, I appreciate you guys. 891 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: Supporting us, but if you could take a minute to 892 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 2: do that, I'd really appreciate it. 893 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 1: The volume