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Speaker 4: Right here in the SWBC studio, I'm Nicole Hudgson, alongside
Speaker 4: Eastan Morrison, Jessinavarees, Christie Scales.
Speaker 5: Wish we were.
Speaker 4: Coming here with some something better to talk about a win,
Speaker 4: but unfortunately we are not.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys fall to.
Speaker 4: The San Francisco forty nine ers once again, the final,
Speaker 4: thirty to twenty four in Levi Stadium. Girls, at first,
Speaker 4: let me just start with you, Christy, because you were
Speaker 4: there at that game.
Speaker 5: What did you notice? What were the vibes?
Speaker 4: I mean, did you expect this outcome yesterday?
Speaker 6: The fact that they had a chance in the fourth
Speaker 6: quarter was pretty amazing, considering how abysmal the third quarter
Speaker 6: was and the fact that the defense got the stop
Speaker 6: on the second to final defensive series and got the
Speaker 6: offense the ball with a chance to score. The winning touchdown.
Speaker 6: Was pretty remarkable because as well as the defense played
Speaker 6: in the first half, limiting the forty nine ers to
Speaker 6: just two field goals, the wheels fell off in the
Speaker 6: third quarter for the defense and the offense didn't do
Speaker 6: anything to help, and neither did the special teams. So
Speaker 6: it was a frustrating end to the game. It was
Speaker 6: a weird beginning to the game when you get to
Speaker 6: the stadium and all of a sudden, you're starting running
Speaker 6: back isn't available. Jones family involved in a traffic a
Speaker 6: car deal coming into the stadium, so there was just
Speaker 6: it was just unusual. And the problem is it's the
Speaker 6: same things that we've been talking about, the lack of takeaways,
Speaker 6: problems in the run game, defensively and offensively. I feel
Speaker 6: like it's an old fashioned record player and it's spinning
Speaker 6: and the needle is stuck in the rut and we
Speaker 6: keep going over and over. So that's what that's what
Speaker 6: it feels like to me. Drop into three and four.
Speaker 7: Yes, Yeah, here's the thing.
Speaker 8: I expected more out of them, especially post by week,
Speaker 8: having a week to kind of sit in the previous
Speaker 8: loss and really reflect and think about how they wanted
Speaker 8: to continue their season and make change immediately going forward.
Speaker 8: And what was so disheartening for me was in the
Speaker 8: first half, you saw those changes being made, you saw
Speaker 8: them being implemented, You saw that fight that you were
Speaker 8: really missing from them. You know, during the previous losses
Speaker 8: that they had that we would talk about that there
Speaker 8: was no fight or no punch back, and they had that,
Speaker 8: but then the wheels fell off. So for me, what's
Speaker 8: the most frustrating is you have this bye week.
Speaker 7: You have a week to figure this out, which.
Speaker 8: In football time, that's a lot of time to figure
Speaker 8: that out, and you can only hold up for two
Speaker 8: quarters before the wheels fall off again. So for me,
Speaker 8: that's worrisome more than anything else. And you know, I'm
Speaker 8: not trying to say the sky is falling, Sky's falling,
Speaker 8: but at what point do we have the conversation that
Speaker 8: it is because you can't keep having these kind of losses,
Speaker 8: and given this isn't the same kind of loss, but
Speaker 8: it just feels like that because of the history with
Speaker 8: the forty nine ers, this was something that really could
Speaker 8: have been a morale boost for this team that I
Speaker 8: think they really needed to skyrocket them forward and the
Speaker 8: rest of the season and the fact that they couldn't
Speaker 8: pull it off because of the same mistakes, Christy, to
Speaker 8: your point, same boogeyman came back to haunt them. The interceptions,
Speaker 8: the penalties, the mistackles, the same things we've been saying,
Speaker 8: loses them another game. I'm tired of seeing it. So
Speaker 8: it was frustrating.
Speaker 9: I don't know you ever spilled something on the ground
Speaker 9: and it just feels like it's just too much to
Speaker 9: have to clean up at one time and you're just
Speaker 9: looking at it and with a laundry.
Speaker 6: Sometimes you don't have enough paper towels, talk about.
Speaker 9: It, so you you ain't got enough paper talles.
Speaker 5: You start thinking about dang.
Speaker 10: I gotta go use some real hotels. You know what
Speaker 10: I'm saying. It's it's there.
Speaker 7: It's not enough.
Speaker 9: Listen, it's two a point. So where because you were
Speaker 9: trying to cover up other deficiencies, it's making things worse
Speaker 9: like and it's making things harder on both sides of
Speaker 9: the wall for you.
Speaker 10: Because to your point, they did make some changes.
Speaker 9: You saw Zimmer come out and do some different fronts
Speaker 9: trying to make sure that they stopped the run. We
Speaker 9: saw the offense come out and do some things offensively
Speaker 9: as well, And one of the differences on the Office's
Speaker 9: side was like they weren't helping the tacticles like that, yeah,
Speaker 9: cause they wanted the tight ends to be They wanted
Speaker 9: to get Jake Ferguson involved.
Speaker 10: That though yep, you literally like cant yep.
Speaker 9: So it's one of those It's just one of those
Speaker 9: things where I think we s we sit here on
Speaker 9: the show and we try to figure out how can
Speaker 9: you fix this? How can they adjust this? H what
Speaker 9: roster things can they do? How can they scheme and stuff?
Speaker 9: But some stuff it's just not fixable and it just
Speaker 9: feels like to not Last night was the time where
Speaker 9: I was just like, this can't be fixed with this.
Speaker 10: And that's the hard part to me.
Speaker 9: It's like, I don't think some of it is fixable
Speaker 9: cause it begets another thing, begets another thing, begets another thing,
Speaker 9: or it takes away from the other one. So I
Speaker 9: think that was the hard reality for me last night
Speaker 9: was just like, yeah, this is what it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what it is.
Speaker 9: Yep.
Speaker 4: I think you also had to look at like We've
Speaker 4: talked so much about how this offense and defense has struggle.
Speaker 5: I mean, you look at Special Teams, they were struggling too.
Speaker 8: It trickles down, like, look, you can only do so
Speaker 8: much when everybody around you is making mistakes. The stakes
Speaker 8: go up, the pressure goes up, and at some point
Speaker 8: you can't expect the one stable part of your team
Speaker 8: to be perfect.
Speaker 7: The wheels are going to fall off there as well.
Speaker 8: And that's just I feel like the natural rotation in
Speaker 8: football is you have off games. This one just so
Speaker 8: happened to come for Special Teams, which usually holds up
Speaker 8: pretty well, but very uncharacteristic mistakes all around Special teams,
Speaker 8: a lot of penalties and something that I've really noticed
Speaker 8: is a lot of I say, a lot of some
Speaker 8: veteran mistakes that I was really surprised to see, like
Speaker 8: a CJ.
Speaker 7: Goodwin missing and I speak to.
Speaker 6: The yeah please very first play. Yes, Special Teams was
Speaker 6: frustrated from the get go because the Cowboys received they
Speaker 6: win the toss, They receive the ball because they want to,
Speaker 6: you know, make statement play from the lead and not
Speaker 6: fall behind like they've had in early losses. So Cavante
Speaker 6: Turpin is lined up back. There just a single returner,
Speaker 6: CJ Goodwin foot backfoot on the thirty five yard line.
Speaker 5: The nine other.
Speaker 6: Blockers front foot on the forty And if you notice
Speaker 6: the kickoff was slightly delayed last night, if you were
Speaker 6: watching TV, you probably notice that. It's like, huh, okay,
Speaker 6: what's the problem. The referee was telling the down judge.
Speaker 6: The referee stands behind the return he's in the back
Speaker 6: of the end zone, underneath the goalposts. As he's making
Speaker 6: his way to his spot behind Cavante Turpin behind the
Speaker 6: end zone, he's telling the down judge that's one of
Speaker 6: the officials that he was right in front of me,
Speaker 6: is along the Cowboys sideline. He's telling him to tell
Speaker 6: CJ something. So the guy goes and tells CJ something,
Speaker 6: and then when CJ listens, it's like okay. He goes
Speaker 6: back and he lines up in a spot. Cavante has
Speaker 6: a pretty good return to the thirty yard line. A
Speaker 6: flag flies illegal formation. They're calling CJ Goodwin. CJ is livid.
Speaker 6: John Fossil, the world's nicest human, is livid. It takes
Speaker 6: a lot to get him going. Yeah, and they're asking
Speaker 6: for an explanation. Later in the second quarter, Zeke Elliott
Speaker 6: has scored on the touchdown run, same thing return, same formation.
Speaker 6: CJ lines up in the exact same spot and it's
Speaker 6: not an illegal formation. We noted it on Cowboys Radio.
Speaker 6: So after the game, I went to CJ in the
Speaker 6: locker room. I said, CJ, did you get an explanation?
Speaker 6: What was up with the first penalty on the opening kickoff?
Speaker 6: He said, New York called down to the officials and
Speaker 6: told him that it was not an illegal formation. Oh
Speaker 6: but wow, So it was a mistake made by the
Speaker 6: officiating crew, but it wasn't corrected in time to not
Speaker 6: to not mark off the five yards.
Speaker 5: That's crazy. So you know how.
Speaker 6: Sometimes there are just games where you're just kind of
Speaker 6: like you don't have a good feeling at the start
Speaker 6: of it, and there's angst done this, And it was
Speaker 6: that way from the get go. Just from that error, Now,
Speaker 6: the other errors on special teams, Marquise Bell leaving early,
Speaker 6: that's a penalty, Brandon Aubrey miss hitting the ball, not
Speaker 6: hitting the landing zone with the kickoff, that's an error.
Speaker 9: And with the backwards pass or for past, Yeah, did
Speaker 9: CJ not position himself correctly?
Speaker 10: Did he not come around.
Speaker 6: I did not ask him about that, but it was forward, yeah,
Speaker 6: and not by much, but enough that I think that
Speaker 6: it was actually the correct call. So it was it
Speaker 6: was a failure of execution.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I went back to watch that specifically today because CJ.
Speaker 8: Goodwin is a guy that we really talk about a
Speaker 8: lot on here that you really missed on special teams
Speaker 8: last year.
Speaker 7: And when I was going back through the.
Speaker 8: Penalties and kind of watching when they happen, it did
Speaker 8: look like a mis execution. To your point, Christy starting
Speaker 8: a game off like that, it kind of looked like
Speaker 8: he was a little rattled throughout the entirety of the game,
Speaker 8: just frustrated.
Speaker 7: He looked frustrated.
Speaker 8: There was one play in the third quarter, early in
Speaker 8: the third quarter where San Francisco's getting the ball. Kickoff
Speaker 8: happens and he just completely misses this tackle. Like I'm talking,
Speaker 8: you have returner right here, CJ good Ones right here.
Speaker 8: And to me, that's weird because CJ. Goodwes your your
Speaker 8: special team's ace. Who's going to get that every time?
Speaker 8: So again, when to me, when a game like.
Speaker 7: That is impacting a guy like CJ.
Speaker 8: Goodwin, who's really hard to shake, to your point, Christy,
Speaker 8: and just a veteran that understands this game and everything
Speaker 8: that goes into it. That told me what kind of
Speaker 8: the game it was from from all aspects and that
Speaker 8: confirms it.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And it ended up that of the six penalties you know,
Speaker 6: marked off against the Cowboys, four of them were on
Speaker 6: special teams.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, no, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 9: It was weird too because when you go back and
Speaker 9: look at the statistics about the penalties, and san Fran
Speaker 9: was penalized far. I mean they did what they have
Speaker 9: seventy five yards?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they were shooting themselves.
Speaker 5: In the foot for seventy three yards.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean they had quite a few penalties themselves. But
Speaker 9: like the Cowboys penalties.
Speaker 10: You can feel them.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Does that make sense?
Speaker 9: Like when when when a lot of these penalties happen,
Speaker 9: they sit into like the feeling of the game. And
Speaker 9: I just felt like to your point and to your
Speaker 9: point about the special team stuff also too, you gotta
Speaker 9: think after something like that happens, are you second guessing yourself?
Speaker 9: Are you second guessing like which if this is okay,
Speaker 9: if this is not okay, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 9: I was disappointed specifically in special teams just because, like
Speaker 9: I thought that the Cowboys had an advantage there as
Speaker 9: far as going up against sant France, which they typically
Speaker 9: just aren't.
Speaker 4: I don't think we should still, you know, I don't
Speaker 4: know if point the finger kind of saying that even
Speaker 4: though we were disappointed Special.
Speaker 9: Teams all the day, No, I'm saying, I'm saying in general,
Speaker 9: just looking I looked at them as as an at
Speaker 9: they as an advantage game changer.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought they could change.
Speaker 9: I mean, and if we're being honest, Cavant Turpin has
Speaker 9: been having some good returns, He's had some They've had
Speaker 9: some success. Brian Inger has some fantastic points.
Speaker 6: Yesterday and it was windy conditions and.
Speaker 7: You could see the ball.
Speaker 5: Did you cross winds?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, the crosswinds, And I think it affected a
Speaker 6: couple of the deep throws as well. That makes sense,
Speaker 6: not as much as Dak getting hit as he's throwing it.
Speaker 6: But may I share one other story Special Teams Brandon
Speaker 6: Aubrey wise, because I think most of the folks joining
Speaker 6: us on Girls Stock Boys talk know that he had
Speaker 6: jury duty last week. So found out a little bit
Speaker 6: more talking to the guys before the game about how
Speaker 6: they worked in practice last week because Brandon Aubrey was
Speaker 6: serving in Terran County, which is Fort Worth, uh and
Speaker 6: it's quite drive in traffic once jury duty end. So
Speaker 6: he got here on Wednesday and Thursday evening about six
Speaker 6: forty five, and Wednesday was by himself, well with coach Fossil,
Speaker 6: but anyway, just working off at Tripod. But the thing
Speaker 6: is he had to practice outdoors on the outdoor field
Speaker 6: on Wednesday and Thursday evening because the Ford Center the
Speaker 6: indoor practice field was booked, including a high school game
Speaker 6: on Thursday. Well, the outdoor practice field here at the
Speaker 6: Starring Frisco doesn't have lights, and so and so. On Thursday,
Speaker 6: for example, when Trentzig the long snapper and Brian Anger,
Speaker 6: the punter who is the colder for Brandon Aubrey on
Speaker 6: extra points and field goals, it was kind of hard
Speaker 6: to see the ball on those deep snaps. So there
Speaker 6: wiz an end to Brandon to Brian Anger and he's
Speaker 6: trying to field it. But luckily the lights from the
Speaker 6: atrium are a beautiful Chandler like display of led lights.
Speaker 6: Thousands of them are sparkly enough and bounce off the
Speaker 6: courrg Doctor Pepper headquarters on the other side of the
Speaker 6: field that they literally once the sun dipped below the horizon,
Speaker 6: they were using the lights of the atrium to illuminate
Speaker 6: the outdoor field enough that they that Brandon could get
Speaker 6: his kicking in.
Speaker 7: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: Make it happen. I don't even know I can happen.
Speaker 7: Think of the lights being an issue, but shout out
Speaker 7: to them for putting the work in. That jury duty get.
Speaker 6: You and he unless something changes with the court. I
Speaker 6: mean cases can change during the process, but no court today.
Speaker 6: But he's supposed to be back at jury duty tomorrow Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Can we just break down the last drive because the
Speaker 4: Cowboys still had.
Speaker 5: A chance to win that game. When you look at the.
Speaker 4: Final drive and Dak almost thows an interception next play
Speaker 4: I believe that was the turpin deep ball, and then
Speaker 4: he throws in a double coverage to Jalen Brooks. Were
Speaker 4: those the right four calls? Do you feel like or
Speaker 4: how would you have played?
Speaker 3: Called that?
Speaker 7: Not like that?
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 10: I've said this one time. I say again, listen.
Speaker 9: What frustrates me the most about this team in particular
Speaker 9: is that it feels like there are moments in games
Speaker 9: like even so you can go back to the end
Speaker 9: of the second quarter when you had an opportunity to
Speaker 9: go up more than what you were at that time.
Speaker 9: Those moments are so big in games, they feel so pivotal,
Speaker 9: and it just felt it feels so rushed. It feels
Speaker 9: like for me, I'm like, as a coach, I'm looking
Speaker 9: for you to call your best four place like it
Speaker 9: is from my understanding, coaches have a nice little list
Speaker 9: of plays that are like, the probability of this winning,
Speaker 9: this working is very high.
Speaker 10: I know this would work.
Speaker 9: And again, like I'm not saying that the run game
Speaker 9: was really just killing things, but it did keep them
Speaker 9: honest and you did.
Speaker 10: Have some success. You had a little success in it.
Speaker 9: And to me, I felt like three minutes left, if
Speaker 9: I'm not mistaken, they had two of their timeouts, two
Speaker 9: timeouts and the two minute warning. Yep, honey, in football world.
Speaker 10: That's ten minutes.
Speaker 9: And you go out there and you just it just
Speaker 9: feels like they don't take some of these possessions seriously,
Speaker 9: Like it literally is like a one possession game within
Speaker 9: the game sometimes, like all you need is one possession
Speaker 9: to flip the script. And I'm not saying like I
Speaker 9: know how to play call in that moment. What I'm
Speaker 9: saying is is like, where is the sense of urgency
Speaker 9: to get to put yourself in a position to be
Speaker 9: successful in these moments?
Speaker 10: And it just feels so.
Speaker 9: Not not within the moment, or like not feeling the
Speaker 9: moment of the room, not reading the room.
Speaker 10: Of what's happening in this game.
Speaker 9: And that happened multiple times in this It happened at
Speaker 9: least two or three times where it's like this is
Speaker 9: the this is a key drive.
Speaker 10: I know you feel that where it's like, this is
Speaker 10: a big drive, this is a big position.
Speaker 9: And it's a three and out. It's a quick three
Speaker 9: and out too, I mean literally taking seventeen seconds off
Speaker 9: the clock?
Speaker 7: What are we doing?
Speaker 5: We they had the ball with three or five left
Speaker 5: in the game.
Speaker 9: This was this is the second quarter where there was
Speaker 9: like I think I'm talking about both they took such
Speaker 9: a few seconds off off the clock, and it's like,
Speaker 9: how were you and I get the benefit of going
Speaker 9: hurry up?
Speaker 10: We talked about that, but it's just.
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, in the third quarter they had the ball
Speaker 6: for seven plays in sixteen yards, So that's not complimentary football. Meanwhile,
Speaker 6: your defense is getting high out to dry getting up
Speaker 6: three scores. But Nicole's question is about the final drive.
Speaker 6: I do have to say that I thought Dak's best
Speaker 6: pass of the night with the third down when to
Speaker 6: that's a very difficult catch, a very difficult catch because
Speaker 6: it was it was good coverage by the cornerback. He
Speaker 6: was right there.
Speaker 7: But do you feel like dropped it right in?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 6: Jack dropped it in? That's just a difficult Uh, just
Speaker 6: my things.
Speaker 8: I'm I'm frustrated with it because you could be in
Speaker 8: a position to extend the clock at this point. Why
Speaker 8: are you giving brock Party a chance to score again?
Speaker 7: After that?
Speaker 8: Say you go down, you march down the field, you
Speaker 8: do what you need to do. You score your touchdown,
Speaker 8: and you do it quick. You're playing hurry up. It's
Speaker 8: brock Party. He's gonna make chunk plays. He's going to
Speaker 8: be mobile. And one thing about brock Party is you
Speaker 8: know he can come back and he's he can score.
Speaker 8: He can score under pressure like that, even if he
Speaker 8: had a minute thirty seconds. So what did you think
Speaker 8: was going to happen when man had three minutes left
Speaker 8: in this game?
Speaker 7: I mean, truly, it's so frustrating.
Speaker 6: To me.
Speaker 7: But what I wanted to point out too was something I.
Speaker 8: Noticed within that whole drive was, yes, the play calling
Speaker 8: didn't agree with can't exactly run.
Speaker 7: You didn't get your run game.
Speaker 8: Established throughout this game enough to sit back and rely
Speaker 8: on it to drain your clock, so you couldn't do that.
Speaker 8: So I understand the logic in going pass heavy with it.
Speaker 7: But what I'm looking at and noticing from Dak is
Speaker 7: this sense of.
Speaker 8: His first look is his only look, because multiple times
Speaker 8: I wrote down here, it's first and ten at the
Speaker 8: sandfrind twenty five, trying to.
Speaker 7: Force the pass to CD.
Speaker 8: There were four defenders around CD at this time. Guess
Speaker 8: who was right there, right in front of him? Who
Speaker 8: could have gotten you five yards just a little chunk pass.
Speaker 8: Zeke was open right in front of Dak. Had he
Speaker 8: turned his eyes literally Nicole like this would have not
Speaker 8: gotten you the first would have pushed you up and
Speaker 8: got you rolling to get the first down. Okay, next one,
Speaker 8: let's see Scrambles throws away almost an interception, no separation
Speaker 8: from Ceedee Lamb right there with the defenders. Third down,
Speaker 8: deep past the turp, the one we're talking about again.
Speaker 8: Guess what wasn't there no separation, And it's just so
Speaker 8: interesting because guess who.
Speaker 7: Was open on that one before?
Speaker 8: On the second down Hunter Liptey and again had something
Speaker 8: I noticed brock Party was really good at throughout this game,
Speaker 8: was getting his different looks in and first one's not open.
Speaker 7: Next, second one's not open. Next I'm gonna scramble.
Speaker 8: And brock Party did phenomenal at that throughout, especially the
Speaker 8: second half. Dak doesn't do that. He was very locked
Speaker 8: in on you're my first look, this is where the
Speaker 8: ball's going, and that's it. No matter what happens, I'm
Speaker 8: sticking with you.
Speaker 7: And that can work.
Speaker 8: Sometimes, but in this drive, that was also a factor
Speaker 8: that really played into making it unsuccessful.
Speaker 7: Play calling not favorable.
Speaker 8: You didn't get your run going, couldn't lean on it.
Speaker 8: Your quarterback has to be better in that final final
Speaker 8: drive what could be your final drive.
Speaker 7: Quarterback has to play better.
Speaker 9: Well, that's protection too, though, Like what you're talking about
Speaker 9: is protection.
Speaker 8: I mean, but they really weren't holding it wasn't he
Speaker 8: had time and he might have.
Speaker 9: He might he might have, And that's something I noticed
Speaker 9: watching him.
Speaker 10: When you have when you have one tackles.
Speaker 9: One thing two tackles is another because he also too
Speaker 9: when you learn your tackles. He also has a clock
Speaker 9: in his head of how long ter still can hold up.
Speaker 9: But he's also having too and fairness of Tiler guy,
Speaker 9: and I feel like he played one of his better games.
Speaker 9: He also too, but they just decide to just line
Speaker 9: up Boso over Terrence.
Speaker 10: Sorry, of course dressed.
Speaker 9: But when you have when you're stressed out and you're
Speaker 9: catching your clock is going off for this guy and
Speaker 9: this guy, I don't.
Speaker 10: Know how he's navigating that.
Speaker 9: And so he's he's either sped up or he's too
Speaker 9: slow down, if that makes sense. And when I say
Speaker 9: he's too slow down, is he's doing there's times when
Speaker 9: he's doing what you're saying, when he's going through one, two, three,
Speaker 9: four five reason and by the time he decides to
Speaker 9: go run, which he's not really doing anymore.
Speaker 5: And that's a whole other conversation, the.
Speaker 9: Guys are chasing the backside already or they're on his hips.
Speaker 9: So it's like you're one correct about him locking on
Speaker 9: different receivers right now. But I don't believe he has time.
Speaker 9: He did there were some clean pockets of time last night. Though,
Speaker 9: but I don't believe that he trusts his time. I
Speaker 9: don't believe he.
Speaker 10: Trusts His mechanics are poor right now some of that.
Speaker 9: And Dak is huge on his mechanics. I know how
Speaker 9: much he's worked on that through his career. The mechanics
Speaker 9: aren't good right now. He's not stepping up in the pocket.
Speaker 9: He's not even comfortable stepping up in the pockets. It's
Speaker 9: a lot of this is offensive line as well. And
Speaker 9: to your point, like when you go look at the
Speaker 9: routes downfield, a lot of them are three man routes
Speaker 9: because they're having some max protech, which means they're having
Speaker 9: tight ends or running backs that are no longer receiving options.
Speaker 10: That have to block so they can get plays off.
Speaker 9: But when you have a secondary drop in six and
Speaker 9: seven and coverage, they have the advantage.
Speaker 10: So the picks and the no separation and all this.
Speaker 9: Stuff, duh, Like that's what's gonna happen because in him
Speaker 9: being sped up is what's going to happen. Him pressing
Speaker 9: is what's going to happen. So this is your one
Speaker 9: hundred percent correct. A lot of this is the protection
Speaker 9: not being as good and don't get it twisted. It
Speaker 9: wasn't just the tackles Tyler Smith struggled, which was just
Speaker 9: what's going on.
Speaker 7: Everybody was in exact game.
Speaker 9: It was quite honestly, Cooper Beebe might have been your
Speaker 9: best offensive lineman last night as a whole.
Speaker 10: And that's insane.
Speaker 9: So protection you are one hundercent, right, but protection, it's
Speaker 9: just it's killing this offense right now because you're so limited.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because you.
Speaker 5: Have to protect.
Speaker 4: I agree with both of y'all, but I also I
Speaker 4: truly believe that that was a catch that Cavante Turpin
Speaker 4: should have still made it the end of the day,
Speaker 4: because you talk about the issues that this team has
Speaker 4: had all season long of trying to establish another star explosive,
Speaker 4: explosive and without Bringdon Cooks.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's supposed to.
Speaker 4: Be that guy, and that was his opportunity to show like, hey,
Speaker 4: I can be trusted, I can step up big when needed,
Speaker 4: and he didn't, which is unfortunate, Like no nonsense.
Speaker 9: Jesse talked to us about it on the other podcast
Speaker 9: I'm on, and he told me that the level of
Speaker 9: difficulty to make that with with tracking it and don't
Speaker 9: get it was a beautiful body. You can't place it
Speaker 9: any better than what that did. I agree with you, like,
Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, you called it, but the level of
Speaker 9: difficulty was through the roof too, So it's just like,
Speaker 9: come on, it just wasn't.
Speaker 10: It wasn't the best. It wasn't the most advantageous.
Speaker 8: Play problem in that moment. To me, that shouldn't have
Speaker 8: been the defining game, the shooting factor of the game,
Speaker 8: because you had a whole third quarter to get ahead
Speaker 8: and not rely on that to win back.
Speaker 5: What you gots. We gotta take our first break.
Speaker 4: We're gonna come back with more run game discussions because that.
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Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 7: That's one of your better ones day.
Speaker 8: Not that I'm just saying you have like your top
Speaker 8: tier ones and then like your middle tier ones and
Speaker 8: even ones that you're like.
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Speaker 4: Right, all right, thanks appreciate this run game, ladies, ladies, ladies.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys running back room combined for almost the same
Speaker 4: amount of rushing yards that Rock Party rushed for. Uh,
Speaker 4: And obviously we needed this running back room to take
Speaker 4: a step forward against this forty nine ers team. They
Speaker 4: elevated Dalvin Cook hopefully uh to be somewhat of a
Speaker 4: change of doing that.
Speaker 5: Then.
Speaker 4: Of course, right before the game, Rico Dalla, we're just
Speaker 4: talking about this Rico Dowdell uh sick and having to
Speaker 4: be inactive for the game.
Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: I was kind of looking forward to that one two
Speaker 4: punch of how him and Dalvin Cook would be, uh
Speaker 4: sprinkling a little Zeke, but I mean you saw Zeke
Speaker 4: have a rushing touchdown. But just talk about this run
Speaker 4: game and y'all's thoughts.
Speaker 6: On, well, just six carries for Dalvin Cook, Yeah, so
Speaker 6: in twelve yards, so two yards to carry.
Speaker 10: Bad.
Speaker 6: But we didn't really get a good sample size because
Speaker 6: they couldn't really get anything going in fifty six rushing
Speaker 6: yards total, not just the running backs, but throw Turpin
Speaker 6: and Dak in there as well, and it's just not
Speaker 6: going to cut it. You're last in the league entering
Speaker 6: the game averaging seventy seven yards and you can't even
Speaker 6: reach that. You're twenty one away from that. So yeah,
Speaker 6: it was frustrating. And you know, game planning going in,
Speaker 6: you think that Rico's going to be there and then
Speaker 6: he's not, And so they had Deuce Vaughan was active
Speaker 6: for the game, but he didn't participate. He didn't play
Speaker 6: a single snap on offense or special teams. So that's
Speaker 6: basically a wasted active spot on game day that you
Speaker 6: could have used for special teams or a different position.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so the fever that Rico had over the
Speaker 6: weekend really I think through a little bit of a
Speaker 6: wrench into everything. But I know everyone was so excited
Speaker 6: about Dalvin Cook, but his grade would be I incomplete
Speaker 6: because we haven't seen enough.
Speaker 8: Are we shocked? It's the same thing, well, same thing,
Speaker 8: same conversation. Just take what I said last week or
Speaker 8: a week before about the run game and just reposted
Speaker 8: on here because it's the same thing. And that's why
Speaker 8: I'm so frustrated. You had a whole bye week to
Speaker 8: figure this out, figure out how to get the run going,
Speaker 8: so you activate Delvin cool, great, fantastic, and then you
Speaker 8: don't utilize him like you should, and again you become
Speaker 8: so one dimensional that you have to rely on your
Speaker 8: passing game because of the protection I issue to your point,
Speaker 8: so it's like almost impossible to get something going with
Speaker 8: what you have right now. But I do wish the
Speaker 8: play calling would favor sticking to the run and just
Speaker 8: get the hot hand going, because that worked for Rico
Speaker 8: and to your point, and Niclaud was also very excited
Speaker 8: to see that one too, Punch. I have no doubt
Speaker 8: that you'll see it at some point soon. I know
Speaker 8: Dalvin has two more elevations left, so we'll see how
Speaker 8: they decide to go about that, and if they make
Speaker 8: some roster moves, I don't know yet. I think that'll
Speaker 8: be something we get some clarity one sooner rather than later.
Speaker 8: But I don't know what the solution is at this point,
Speaker 8: because even having Rico in that game, if they're not
Speaker 8: going to stick to the run, wouldn't have really changed anything.
Speaker 8: What I do want to know, and what I'll talk
Speaker 8: to some of the running backs in the room about
Speaker 8: this week, is how they feel kind of about their
Speaker 8: utilization and you know, pass pro.
Speaker 7: Could be a big part of it.
Speaker 8: Like your point, to your point, Aisha is it's creating
Speaker 8: just such a one dimensional offense that you can't even
Speaker 8: have running backs run the ball because you're so worried
Speaker 8: about protection of your quarterbacks.
Speaker 7: So I'm not shocked, guys.
Speaker 8: In fact, I'll be shocked when I can actually talk
Speaker 8: about a running game being established, because it just seems
Speaker 8: so repetitive to just not have it going at this point,
Speaker 8: and I really hate that for this team.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, now you said it, sister, I mean,
Speaker 9: you can't run about on the red zone this problem.
Speaker 9: I just I just feel like, Oh, as far as
Speaker 9: Darvin Cook, though, like watching him a little bit, I
Speaker 9: did see from him he does have a little acceleration still,
Speaker 9: you still see a little pop in his game that
Speaker 9: I think could be beneficial.
Speaker 10: And I was looking forward to seeing him and Rico because.
Speaker 9: Even though at this point, again it's not gonna it's
Speaker 9: not gonna change. So these are the two guys that
Speaker 9: display the most explosiveness to this point. So it's like,
Speaker 9: I do think them together could wear down a defense
Speaker 9: if done correctly.
Speaker 10: But the problem is, and again I don't know.
Speaker 9: If this is I don't know if this is scheme.
Speaker 9: I don't know if this is coaching. This offensive line
Speaker 9: is playing poorly. They have been playing poorly like this
Speaker 9: for a while. This is this, This is not the
Speaker 9: first year. Last year we were talking about a very
Speaker 9: similar thing. It's just that what I believe is that
Speaker 9: team still respected the threat of Tony Pollard.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 9: They still were like, yeah, I know he's still not
Speaker 9: one percent yet, but I think that he.
Speaker 10: Can get after it. You don't have a Tony Pollard right.
Speaker 5: Now, so there is none.
Speaker 6: Of that, I mean, or even getting to the second
Speaker 6: level to get in the open space to make them.
Speaker 9: And so from an offensive life standpoint as well, like
Speaker 9: you seeing Zach Martin fumble of himself, you seeing Tyler
Speaker 9: Smith fumbling over himself. You're seeing like and when you
Speaker 9: to me, here's my thing, And this is no different
Speaker 9: than like, if you're a teacher, if my best best,
Speaker 9: my best students are failing the test, we might need
Speaker 9: to find out, like what the disconnect is because your
Speaker 9: best offensive linemen are struggling and there's some compensating and
Speaker 9: things like that. Yeah, what is the communication? It's what
Speaker 9: they're doing. Are they doing what is conducive to what
Speaker 9: they do well. This run game was even better to
Speaker 9: me last year, and Tyron Smith was not that great
Speaker 9: in the run game and.
Speaker 10: Still was better last year.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So to me, to your point about the run game,
Speaker 9: it's like it's not working for several reasons, and I
Speaker 9: think we're gonna find out more so why the protection
Speaker 9: stuff too, But it's the lack of run game is
Speaker 9: killing this team is killing the quarterback. And you had
Speaker 9: three minutes left and you could not And let me
Speaker 9: also say this, sand Fran's run defense is not that
Speaker 9: great anymore.
Speaker 10: They are mid tier, they have.
Speaker 9: Been mid tier since last year, and you still just
Speaker 9: could not move the ball. And to your point, in
Speaker 9: the third quarter, I felt like they maybe saw that
Speaker 9: they thought they could pass the ball more. At that
Speaker 9: point sand Frian had adjusted to what they had been doing.
Speaker 9: Then that's a whole another conversation.
Speaker 10: So it's like.
Speaker 9: If you can't run the ball, man, like you're screwed, dude,
Speaker 9: Like I'm sorry, Like this is this is just where
Speaker 9: we are.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you something.
Speaker 4: How serious do you feel like they are in figuring out.
Speaker 5: The issues in this run game.
Speaker 6: Of course they're serious. About figuring it out.
Speaker 10: I don't know how serious.
Speaker 9: Seriously, I don't know how serious because you had similar
Speaker 9: issues last year, yet you you were starting back to the
Speaker 9: same people now you've drafted. And even so, like Tyler
Speaker 9: Geydon again one of his better games. He's never been
Speaker 9: a run blocking tackle. He would that what he was
Speaker 9: in his game out of college has did. He show
Speaker 9: some things in preseason like okay, I see some nasty
Speaker 9: and you big dog.
Speaker 10: I see you can get out in space. I can
Speaker 10: see you.
Speaker 9: But so much about the run game and getting to
Speaker 9: the second level is hand placements and latch.
Speaker 10: He struggles with that.
Speaker 5: So it's like, as then he lets go too soon.
Speaker 10: He can't. He's strugg I think he has good grip strength.
Speaker 10: I've seen his grip strength. He can do some tiring
Speaker 10: stuff with his grip strength.
Speaker 9: But it's like finding a man not holding, latching and
Speaker 9: driving him out to play. He struck with the contact
Speaker 9: on contact finding a man. Cooper Beebie gets to the
Speaker 9: second level. Tyler Smith can get to the second level.
Speaker 9: Terrence Steele has the ability to get to the second level.
Speaker 9: He's not as clean. Zach Martin still can still not
Speaker 9: as clean. But like god man, like you, guys cannot
Speaker 9: do any they have. They have not been able to
Speaker 9: get to the second level as an offensive line for
Speaker 9: two years. That to me deserves a bigger conversation. So
Speaker 9: I don't know if they're really trying to fix it,
Speaker 9: because if you're really trying to fix it, then you
Speaker 9: have to look at philosophy, you have to look at
Speaker 9: all of those because clearly your guys are not retaining this.
Speaker 9: They're not getting better. If anything, they're regressing. I understand
Speaker 9: guys are older, you have young guys and things like that.
Speaker 10: It should not be this difficult to run a dive.
Speaker 8: Yep, dude, I'm gonna. I'm gonna play neutral white flag
Speaker 8: over here. No, no, no, no, it needs to be said.
Speaker 8: And here's the thing. I freaking hope they're taking it serious.
Speaker 7: It's their job.
Speaker 14: Like here at the point at the end of they're
Speaker 14: taking it all. Y'all are on one year contracts.
Speaker 7: So if you're not.
Speaker 14: Taking it serious, see ya, But then you're not gonna
Speaker 14: be here in ten weeks having these.
Speaker 6: Because if it were easy, it would have been done already.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm not gonna I'm not faulting the players for this.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna sit here and say you have the
Speaker 8: wrong personnel.
Speaker 7: We don't know.
Speaker 8: You don't actually know what this run game can look
Speaker 8: like because your play caller doesn't like play up to
Speaker 8: the running backs that you have that are your strongest ones.
Speaker 8: You barely establish Rico's you're starting running backs. You're a
Speaker 8: little late on that, buddy, Like I wanted to hear
Speaker 8: that in training camp. That's how far far behind you are.
Speaker 7: Thank you in establishing this.
Speaker 8: And so for me, man, I'm almost cussed like four
Speaker 8: times here because this really upsets me. And I'm not Chris,
Speaker 8: I got you. I'm not gonna cuss, but it upsets
Speaker 8: me because here you're talking about how serious are they're
Speaker 8: taking it. I'm not faulting the personnel for this. I'm
Speaker 8: not faulting Rico. I'm not faulting Dalvin, I'm not faulting Deuce.
Speaker 7: Hunter, Zeke.
Speaker 8: They are doing what they are being told to do.
Speaker 8: And for me, to your point, if a teacher's best
Speaker 8: students are failing, who is the teacher in this?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy is running your running running back, coach, your
Speaker 8: offensive line? Who do you put the fault on?
Speaker 7: Here for me.
Speaker 8: Look, Mike, I'm sorry, Like, I just don't feel like
Speaker 8: there has been enough self reflection to understand that your
Speaker 8: play calling is not favoring a part of this offense
Speaker 8: that it really needs to protection aside offensive line struggles, aside.
Speaker 8: You need to run the ball, figure it out, call
Speaker 8: the plays, get them comfortable with it, because how are
Speaker 8: they supposed to get better in their run blocking if
Speaker 8: you're not doing it. Like I hope they're taking it serious,
Speaker 8: but to me, I don't think it's a matter of
Speaker 8: taking it serious. I just don't think that they want
Speaker 8: this offense to be a run offense. And that's okay,
Speaker 8: but it still has to be a factor in your game.
Speaker 8: You can be a pass first offense all you want,
Speaker 8: but at the end of the day, like you're aren't
Speaker 8: here for pass pro, your tight ends aren't just here
Speaker 8: for pass pro. Let them do their damn jobs, which
Speaker 8: is get your tight ends involved in the receiving game.
Speaker 8: Let your running backs run the ball, because it's essentially
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, I feel like it's
Speaker 8: wasted time for them. It's wasted film that you're not
Speaker 8: putting on for these players who potentially are on contract,
Speaker 8: yours might not be here next year. What are you doing, like,
Speaker 8: I've been so frustrated with this run game for two years.
Speaker 8: To your point, Aisha Nicoley answer your question, I hope so,
Speaker 8: because if not, your time here is running short, like
Speaker 8: and it sucks because I don't really think that helps
Speaker 8: the culture problem that people talk about or want to
Speaker 8: create a discussion about. You get another head coach than
Speaker 8: what like it, it doesn't help anything.
Speaker 6: So it feels you want to run the ball about
Speaker 6: forty five percent of the time, McCarthy has told us sad.
Speaker 6: But when you're averaging less than three yards to carry
Speaker 6: and you fall behind the sticks and get get yourself
Speaker 6: in second and third and long situations, then we scream
Speaker 6: about that. So, yeah, goat are they executing.
Speaker 5: The run game?
Speaker 6: Obviously not. Would McCarthy love to call run plays. Yes,
Speaker 6: it's your quarterback better when he has a run game
Speaker 6: and can hand the ball off, of course. Yeah, but
Speaker 6: you have to execute.
Speaker 9: It and yeah, and that's that's the good person say.
Speaker 9: It's notice the execution is just not there. I'm over
Speaker 9: it all right.
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Speaker 5: No, No, I know we have to wrap things up, ladies.
Speaker 4: We didn't get a chance to talk defense at I'll
Speaker 4: will leave that for tomorrow. But just one thing moving
Speaker 4: forward that you want to see out of this team
Speaker 4: heading into Sunday.
Speaker 5: I know there's a week to prepare, but one thing.
Speaker 4: I know there's plenty, but you got to just choose
Speaker 4: one one thing that this team needs to focus on
Speaker 4: this week in order to just write the ship.
Speaker 6: They've been focusing on it takeaways and they haven't gotten results.
Speaker 6: I'll give an example. Demarian Overshown was one of the
Speaker 6: few players who spoke in the locker room after the game,
Speaker 6: and he talked about the need for takeaways, and he
Speaker 6: specifically spoke to his sack late in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 6: which forced the punt and gave the Cowboys offensive chance,
Speaker 6: albeit from their own twenty five yard line. Following the punt,
Speaker 6: he says, if you know if you know, I should
Speaker 6: have gone for the ball, should you know, tried to
Speaker 6: knock it out a party's hands when I sacked him.
Speaker 6: So that's an example. Now de Marvion made a great
Speaker 6: play and good job on the sack, but that's an
Speaker 6: example of a play that was a great play that
Speaker 6: could have truly been a catalytic play if they had
Speaker 6: forced the fumble.
Speaker 8: You know, I would say run game, but well, I'm
Speaker 8: just I'm gonna drop that because that's not Yeah, anyways,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say there's no point in dwelling on it
Speaker 8: is not.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say.
Speaker 8: Less chunk plays from opposing offenses because that defined.
Speaker 7: Your game once again.
Speaker 8: Is allowing chunk passes, big runs to fine how this
Speaker 8: forty nine ers team was able to come back and
Speaker 8: beat you and ended up being kind of one of
Speaker 8: your boogeymen once again, is allowing these chunk plays.
Speaker 7: It's been kind of an.
Speaker 8: Over a pattern over the last few weeks. So I
Speaker 8: really want the defense to gain their confidence back and
Speaker 8: allowing themselves to create big plays themselves and not allow
Speaker 8: it to be happening to that moment over again.
Speaker 9: Yeah, agreed, Uh, I thought that Mike Zimmer came out
Speaker 9: and tried to do some things, tried to find some
Speaker 9: ways to try to get this defense going and worked.
Speaker 10: San France called on figured it out how to counter it.
Speaker 9: They're very pigeon held by their lack of pass rush,
Speaker 9: trade deadline wind that's next week.
Speaker 10: Next week is next Tuesday.
Speaker 9: As a matter of f so guess what this is
Speaker 9: the week we're still best starting getting move people, getting phone.
Speaker 10: Pick up the phone.
Speaker 9: Like the Chiefs literally traded for Josh today from the Patriots,
Speaker 9: adding to fantastic.
Speaker 5: Still the team that they are.
Speaker 9: Their defense is one of the best in the league.
Speaker 9: They were able to get this gentleman who's a legitimate
Speaker 9: speed rusher for sixth rounder.
Speaker 8: Here's what I'll say, keep expectations a low and you
Speaker 8: don't get disappointed, babes. No.
Speaker 9: I mean, what I'm saying is is like your lack
Speaker 9: of pass rush is killing your defense.
Speaker 10: It's it's hurting more to me.
Speaker 9: It's hurting worse than you not being able to stop
Speaker 9: the run right now, you cannot apply pressure. Brock Perty
Speaker 9: was back there chilling, he was hanging out.
Speaker 10: He had too much time.
Speaker 7: So the point where he's.
Speaker 10: Like where he's messing up.
Speaker 9: Listen, I would hope that maybe they would see if
Speaker 9: Michael depends on what Michael's timetable is.
Speaker 10: If they want to go try to win all.
Speaker 9: The rest of their divisional games and make a run,
Speaker 9: they need to get another and they need to get
Speaker 9: another speed rusher.
Speaker 5: So that's me trade deadline.
Speaker 4: I agree with all of y'all, but I'm also going
Speaker 4: to add I want Dak to be more assertive as
Speaker 4: far as just be more commanding at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: We saw rock party just even though he did have
Speaker 4: a little bit more time, so we can't really dock
Speaker 4: him for that.
Speaker 5: A lot of it, a lot of it.
Speaker 4: But he also made plays on his own, extended drives
Speaker 4: on his own, and that's something that I feel like
Speaker 4: has been missing from this offense. So as long as
Speaker 4: I can see a little bit more of that from Dak,
Speaker 4: I think that at least it'll take somewhat of the
Speaker 4: next step.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's gonna.
Speaker 4: Help you, certainly a step in the right direction.
Speaker 7: We can ask for this point more to break.
Speaker 4: Down over the next couple of days. Tomorrow we'll be
Speaker 4: breaking down the defense. What went wrong, what went right?
Speaker 4: A little bit of what went right in Mike zimmer
Speaker 4: Ah and the rest of this Dallas Cowboys defense. But
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