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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have a very

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Speaker 2: special guest with us today. I am excited to welcome

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Speaker 2: the forty fifth President of the United States of America,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, to the podcast. Mister President, welcome, Well, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, Tudor.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm so excited. I want to actually take

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a different approach to this conversation

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Speaker 2: because there's a special President Trump that I know, and

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Speaker 2: he is an incredibly caring guy. You were so wonderful

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Speaker 2: to my dad when he was sick. You took a

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Speaker 2: lot of time to talk to him. But we've also

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Speaker 2: had some other folks on that have said great things

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Speaker 2: about you. Major John Turnbull was on the podcast and

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Speaker 2: he told us about leaving Walter Reed after losing his

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Speaker 2: eyesight in an explosion in Syria. He met you at

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Speaker 2: the hospital, but then he came home to his house

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Speaker 2: and you and the first lady had left him a gift.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't from the White House, it was especially from you.

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Speaker 2: It was new baby supplies for his baby. He said

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Speaker 2: he's never going to forget and you have no idea

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Speaker 2: what that meant to him. I also heard about a

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Speaker 2: story years ago of a woman who lost a game show.

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Speaker 2: She was asked what she would do with the money.

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Speaker 2: She said, her young son was sick. She would pay

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Speaker 2: his medical bills. You decided to pick up the medical

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Speaker 2: Why don't we ever get to see this side of

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump in the public because it is such an

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Speaker 2: amazing part of who you are.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. People aren't interested in I can

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Speaker 1: tell you the media is not interested in those things.

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Speaker 1: And you know I'll help people. I love to help people.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to be able to do it. And some

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Speaker 1: of the soldiers what they've given up. I used to

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Speaker 1: go to wal to Read a lot when I was president,

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Speaker 1: to just visit people, visit soldiers, and incredible, I mean

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Speaker 1: and especially when you view you know there, why were

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Speaker 1: we there? Why did we do this? And you know,

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Speaker 1: I believe in peace through strength, But you can you

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Speaker 1: can you don't have to do all of this stuff

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Speaker 1: that we do. It ends up not solving problems. But

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Speaker 1: when you see the destruction that's done and the horrible

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Speaker 1: I would spend a lot of time and you get

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Speaker 1: you know, it's very interesting. I would never have been

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Speaker 1: You understand that, right, And yet I've seen wounds that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said it was a moment when they said

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Speaker 2: people say to me before, I would never run for

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Speaker 2: You're very tough. I know you're very tough. I've talked

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Speaker 2: And how do you talk about the weaponization of government

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Speaker 1: Well, I've seen people where they don't like our government anymore,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, these people are horrible. I mean, it's like incredible

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Speaker 2: I know. I try to explain this to my own kids,

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Speaker 2: But what's it like as a father, because we see

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Speaker 1: Well, it's tough when you have children that you know.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they do this stuff. And I

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Speaker 2: When you're back in office, will you go after Hillary

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the thing. It was a fake Dosier. Yeah, that'speak.

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Speaker 2: And yet we have some really real stuff about Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 2: this because we had a booming economy with you before COVID.

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Speaker 2: It's COVID stole so much from us. We lost our

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Speaker 1: You know, they blame everything. They say it's COVID because

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Speaker 2: it's like an understatement. Numerous the pharmaceutical companies have refused

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Speaker 2: The research has never been released. So will you demand

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Speaker 1: Well, they should do that. You know, we're all in

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Speaker 1: But they should be doing that. If they have facts,

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Speaker 1: You know, this is now after the case. Don't forget

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Speaker 2: That absolutely, and I think it's important for people to

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