WEBVTT - Toast: As in browned bread 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:04.240 Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:13.200 Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.880 and there's Chuck and Jerry's hanging out too, and that's 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:21.120 making this Stuff you Should Know episode. So welcome everyone, 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:25.360 and welcome back Chuck. Yeah, welcome back Josh, Welcome back Jerry. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:30.320 This is Uh, this feels weirder than ever before. I think, well, 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.199 we should explain we're recording our first our first episodes 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.760 of the year. M uh. And it feels even weirder 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:38.840 to ramp back up because we had such a long, 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:44.479 great break. I grew a beard. Now you didn't. I 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:50.560 just saw you in person, but I almost felt not nervous, 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.040 but I was like, do I remember how to do this? 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.520 Of course you do. I guess are you feeling right now? 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.960 A little shaky? I mean, we're doing it, so I 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.480 guess this is how we do it. This is how 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.200 we do it. Also, Chuck me, you're doing great. By 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.039 the way. Um, we have a big announcement to make. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.800 We want to bring everybody up to speed. We hit 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.640 the one million dollar mark. Uh, we being Stuff you 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.240 should Know listeners, and um, we hit it a little 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.240 bit after the turn of the new year, right, that's 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:25.200 right for our our friends at co ED. They're the 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.680 Cooperative for Education that does such great work helping you 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.840 break the cycle of poverty in Guatemalan. And I know 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.039 a sort of beat you over the head with at 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:34.720 the end, but we really wanted to get the Stuff 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.960 you should know army over a million bucks because that's 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.440 a that's a big number. And we did it. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.040 we did it. So congratulations to everyone in Stuff you 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.520 should Know land in a special thanks to everybody who 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.280 opened up their hearts and their wallets and contributed to 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.680 all those people in Guatemala all the key to all Right, 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.800 just wanted to let everybody know, and sorry for keeping 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.520 you in suspense. I know this is going to come 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.280 out in like late January, but yeah, themes of the 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:05.800 breaks everybody. Yeah, and our big beautiful stash of episodes 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.799 that we recorded to take that long break are almost gone. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.640 They're dwindled like a like a yule log burned down 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.760 after the new year. Yeah, it's kind of what it 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.800 feels like. It's just seeing that shrink is exhilarating and sad. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.200 It is I've I've missed um, you know, being kind 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.200 of up to date. When people send in a listener mail, 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.800 I'm not like, what what episode does because we're, you know, 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.520 a couple of weeks out, we're like right there on 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.560 the edge, like cal Paccino and heat. I know, but 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.400 I was getting episodes. I was like, oh, yeah, I 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.640 forgot we recorded that one, you know, six weeks ago. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.080 Pleasantly surprised. So yeah, we're back in full form again, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:44.839 I guess is the point of what we've been talking 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.880 about for the last three minutes. That's right, I'm ready 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.400 to go. I'm feeling totally normal now, not weird at all. 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.160 So I'd like to talk about something that's not weird 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.600 at all, and that would be toast. Yeah, who doesn't 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:59.280 love toast? I genuinely don't know. I've I've never met 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.400 anybody who was I hate toast. Maybe it's like I 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.640 don't like toast a certain way, but I've never met 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.680 anybody who just generally didn't like toast. And I'm sure 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.920 they're out there. If you are, go ahead and right in, 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.760 let us know why you don't like toast. But I've 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.600 never met an individual who didn't like toast. Well, I 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.440 think we should clarify. If you like bread, then you 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.480 probably like toast. Okay, I think they're non bread eaters 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.440 and likers. But if you like the bread part, surely 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:31.040 you like it. And it's well grittled is pretty great too. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:36.080 But toast, I would argue, is its best form. Yeah, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.160 and I guess we are talking about a specific way 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.920 of heating and crisping bread. I think people actually get 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.800 that pedantic about when actually does bread become toast in 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.720 the toasting process, etcetera. We're not gonna go down that road. 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:52.160 We're gonna keep this fun and light and talk about toast. Yeah, 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.080 this is my pick, and Livia helped us out with it. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.440 And uh, here's my deal is. I don't I hardly 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.200 ever eat toast because it's just, especially when you're carrying 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.400 a few pounds extra around your middle. It's not like 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.480 you jump up and say, let's throw a few slices 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.320 of bread in the oven and and butter and start 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.160 our day that way. Uh. Toasts as a treat for me, 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.200 a semi rare treat when I'm maybe out to breakfast 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.680 or recording an episode on toast, Because after studying this morning, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.359 I was like, I gotta go eat a piece of toast. 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.440 I have to You know, what's weird is I finally 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.640 got to that point. I was telling you me last night. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.120 I was like, it's so weird. I've been researching toast 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.839 all day and I don't have a hankering for toast. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.400 And it finally got me this morning. How I started, no, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.600 not yet. I started looking up all we have our 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.560 tortillas in the house. I'm like, you can't make toast 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.360 out of this. But so I started looking up the 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.600 best white bread and I found a serious eats I think, 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:51.480 no eat this, not that um basically taste test and 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.720 they said that it was a type of pepperage farms. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.960 But they said it's it's pretty good. It makes better toast. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.880 But they said the overall better bread was nature's own 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.480 perfect white bread. I believe it's what it's called. So 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.360 I'm gonna get me some of that and make some toast. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.960 That's a pretty bold name. Uh perfect white Yeah, I'm 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.360 pretty sure that's what it is. What it's called. Yeah, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.160 I had and I have a written down. I made 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.400 a draft of my email folder so I didn't forget it. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.159 Let me tell you, Chuck, it is nature's own perfectly 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.760 crafted white bread. Okay, okay, perfect white that has some 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.600 bad insinuations. I think right perfectly crafted. Their their marketing 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.320 team is like whoo woa whoa. Well, uh so here's 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.560 what I did uh and I want to shout out 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.920 a listener. I use the uh. We have had some 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:45.440 oat nut wheat bread uh in the in the old pantry. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.520 So I threw that in a toaster oven, a Breville 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.120 toaster oven. Uh. And we'll talk about the different kinds 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.200 of toasters. We honestly just don't have counterspace. We don't 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.320 have a huge kitchen, so we don't have enough room 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:04.520 for the beautiful superior stand up toaster mhm. And then 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.839 I use the butter beell. And this is from Amanda 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.840 who just wrote in. Amanda plash All wrote in like 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:16.080 last week, they said, hey, you gotta use a butterbell croc. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.360 You know what those are. Yeah, we had one in 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:23.240 the butter kept growing mold. Are you changing your water 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:27.000 every three days? Yeah? I'm taking it like a shot, 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.360 a little buttery water shot. Alright, Well, that's weird. Mine 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.680 hasn't molded yet. Uh. So I use that, which keeps 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.880 the butter nice and soft and spreadable. And then I 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.680 on a whim. Took a little and I go for 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.000 a sort of a medium dark I like it. I 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.680 don't like it, yeah, not a really light toast, but 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.560 not dark dark either. But I really love that sound 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.800 when you're spreading it, you know. And then I put 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:56.880 some cloister cinnamon honey, like the spun spreadable honey on there, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:05.800 and it was so but butter and honey. But it 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.080 could have been just butter or just I mean, there's 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:09.520 a lot of things that can put on toast and 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:16.160 enjoy it. I like butter and jam for toast. If 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.360 I do honey, I need to do peanut butter. I'm 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:22.240 not crazy about the butter and honey combination, although I 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.320 do love a good honey butter, but that's not the 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.480 same thing because butter and honey and I just don't 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.880 I don't know why. They sound like they'd be spectacular together, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.880 but they just don't hit me quite right. Kind of 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.600 like bourbon and grapefruit juice sounds like it'd be great, 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.600 it's actually kind of awful. Yeah, I don't think that 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.480 sounds great though. Okay, all right, should we talk about 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.520 butter or toast? Is that what we're talking about today? 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.400 We should do one on butter though. That's a good idea. Sure, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.480 that's a great idea. So um, we should probably start 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.440 with the history because we don't exactly know who started 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.280 making toast, but um, most people chalk it up to 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.760 the ancient Egyptians. They think the Greeks are the Romans 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.760 stole it from the Egyptians and um kind of made 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.840 a big deal out of it. Actually named the stuff 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:09.840 we called toast toast because um in uh I guess 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:15.480 ancient Roman Latin Latin, it's the new year toast um 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.960 is uh is Latin for scorched, So that's kind of 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.920 where we get other word toast from. So that's where 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.400 toast kind of first appears. But they're basically saying, like 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.760 Olivia helped us out with this, that Um, as long 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.360 as people have been making bread, they probably very quickly 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.720 after that started making toast. Yeah, and that's toast um 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.120 as in t O s t u M. It's not 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:42.839 t o a st apostrophe might because that's probably some 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:51.800 highly manufactured food product probably yeah uh yeah, So yeah, exactly, 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.840 there was fire, there was sort of stalish bread probably 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.480 and they said, hey, we can uh the air fryers 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.719 not around yet that we can revive this sort of 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:05.360 stale thing by putting a little brown on it, meaning 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:10.400 toasting it. Sure, okay, oh are you going dirty? Yeah? 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.360 It was okay, so really, um, I guess the in 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.600 medieval times they were kind of like, okay, we'll see 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.920 what we can do with this toast and um. That's 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.120 where cinnamon toast comes from. The fifteenth century, there was 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.839 something called golden SOPs, which is kind of a predecessor 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:30.600 of French toast um, and that came around in the century. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.000 I think it was associated with the alchemists because it 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.480 was supposed to be associated with gold, which was attributed 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:40.719 to immortal life. That sounds really alchemist e to me. 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.439 And I think that's just like dip in toast and 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:48.640 egg yolk, right, yes, not like you fry it up 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.880 or cook it in some way. Oh. I thought you 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.719 would just eat the toast and dip it in that 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.600 yolk and eat it. I don't think so. I think 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.400 you dip the bread in the yolk and then cook it. Okay, Well, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.240 there's like French toast, but none of that matters. It 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.280 does not matter. From the time of ancient Egypt through 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:10.240 to the fifteenth century because nothing important happened until I believe, Um, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:15.480 the people, the great people of Naples, Italy, invented cinnamon toast. Yeah, 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.920 and this is straight up cinnamon toast. Uh. They toasted 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.200 the bread over fire, and we'll get to the implements 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.959 they used to do that. Uh. And they would put 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.040 butter on it, they would put cinnamon and sugar on it. 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.720 But this sounds so key and delicious. Uh. It says 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.520 here that they would add a creamy cheese and then 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.000 cook it some more. Yeah, I can't. I mean, does 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:38.959 that mean cream cheese because it can be kind of good. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.400 It sounds delicious to me. It does sound pretty good. Um. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.880 But regardless, I think cinnamon toast is one of the 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.559 pinnacles of human cookery. Have you ever had Have you 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.240 ever had Welsh rare bit? No? Uh? And I want 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.520 to try it now, but and I know I've looked 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.440 it up before and realize it's not what I thought. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.080 But I always thought it was a rabbit e meati 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.960 ish and just always avoided it. No. Well, the legend 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:07.520 goes that the poor Welsh peasants called it Welsh rabbit 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.040 because they used the cheese instead of meat, because cheese 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.160 was cheaper and easier to get than rabbit meat was. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.880 They also heard that that was kind of a derogatory 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.319 or scornful thing, like to the Welsh, this is what 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.080 rabbit is. You know, this cheese substitute. But it's a cheesy, 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:27.520 really delicious, cheesy sauce teeth that includes beer and worst 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.480 just shut and then you put that over toast. And 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.240 I can't remember there might be some other component to it. Yeah, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.400 I had it at this restaurant in d C. And 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.320 I can't remember the name of it, but it's where 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:44.120 um JFK proposed to Jackie. Oh, so I'm sure there's 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.120 some d C people who know. But they had Welsh 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.520 by bit and I was like, I gotta try this, 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.839 and it was really good. I'm gonna try it, and 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.079 it's again, it's nothing to be scared of. And I 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.719 didn't feel as dumb knowing that it originally like it 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.960 may have had rabbit and they used cheese instead. Yeah, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.640 because it felt like a dummy comes because it doesn't 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.319 even say rabbit right well, I mean, yeah, it's a 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.400 it's a bastardization of it. It's like um instead of rabbit. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:13.800 It's like R A B B apostrophe. I t h. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.800 Things really cooked up though in a big way, no 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:22.160 pun intended. In the Victorian era in Britain when they 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:27.079 went wild for toast. Uh, all kinds of great recipes. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.800 We're gonna highlight a few of them here that Livia 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:34.920 dug up, including bone marrow toast. I have kind of 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.000 turned on bone marrow. I was enjoying it for a 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.040 little while, but the last time I had it, I 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.920 didn't really like it, and it kind of gross me out. 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.160 Oh yeah, I can see that if you stop and 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.920 think about it, it can gross you up pretty easy. Yeah. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:47.720 So I think I'm off of it now, or maybe 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.240 just a tiny bit goes a long way for me. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.839 I think, yeah, not too much marrow. So the marrow 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.800 toast was from a book in eighteen sixty seven from 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:04.679 Charles elm uh friend Catelly, I guess, and he was 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.520 in Queen Victoria's kitchen and said the Queen ate this 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.679 basically every night for dinner. Uh. And that was kind 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.800 of a fun line. And it's fun reading these old 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:17.640 recipes always. One of them says that, uh, you should 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.079 get the butcher to break the bones as this is 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.559 a rather awkward affair for ladies, right, I guess to 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.959 to break those bones not very late. I mean it's 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.640 it's an awkward affair for anybody really. And what's the 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.920 other funny line in that recipe? Um that it should 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:37.400 have just a mere suspicion of shalott. I love that. Yeah, 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.880 it's a it's a strange way to put it, but 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.280 I like that. Guys, well you say a hint of something, 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.080 so that makes sense, right, A mere suspicions. I've never 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.199 heard anything like it in either So. There was another 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:53.200 cookbook in Victorian England called The Book of Household Management 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.320 by Isabella Beaten. I think everyone referred to her as 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:00.600 Mrs Beaton, and she um came up with a couple 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.000 of good ones, A good A couple of good contributions. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.240 One is the toast sandwich, and it's exactly what it 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.760 sounds like. Yeah, it's like the Blues Brothers wish sandwich. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.160 Do you remember that no, huh? Where you had two 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.160 slices of bread and you wish you had some meat. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.640 That's basically it is. It was a meat substitute if 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.040 you take two pieces of bread and your meat was 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.320 a piece of toast. Yeah, like the bread would be 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.120 buttered and everybody calmed down, but it was just dry 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.000 toast in the middle. That was the substance of the sandwich. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.720 People would eat them. It's kind of yeah, I guess 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.240 a little bit, but without the meat, without the dressing, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.600 without the sesame seed bun, without the lettuce, without any 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.200 of that. I'm surprised you didn't say it like the 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:46.000 old commercial. I can't remember. I've got the bak jingle 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.800 in my head and it's not it's not gibing. I 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.920 think it was too all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.160 onion on a sesame seed bun. Yeah, there you go. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.320 I've got um have it your your way, have it 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.000 your way in my head all the time, not just 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.360 right now. By the way, What did that mean? Was 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.360 Burger King known for like saying you can get a 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.920 special type of hamburger, and not yeah, get you know, 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.680 spit on. It was hold the pickles, hold the lattice, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.600 special orders. Don't upset us. All we want is that 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.440 you let us have it your way. I don't remember 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.480 going to McDonald's though, and then being upset when I 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.960 said no pickles or whatever. Oh man, they were well 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.800 known for their people just going into a rage if 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.040 you asked them to hold anything like you knew better 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.400 in the eighties than to open your mouth and McDonald's, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:39.920 aside from ordering directly off the man, hold this, buddy, right, Uh, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:44.200 this recipe is pretty fine. Toast water. I think if 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.640 you gave people a test and said, guess three guesses 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.840 on what toast water would be, they probably wouldn't guess 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.160 what toast water is, even though it's exactly what it 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.440 sounds like, which I think the mind repels it thinking 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:01.080 of it. You know, it's just making toasts, pouring boiling 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.640 water over the toast. Uh. And that's not the meal. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.400 It's not like milk toast, which we'll get to in 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.600 a second. You just let it get cold and then 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.800 you strain out that toast and have toast flavored water, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.080 like kind of as Olivia puts a toast based iced tea. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.600 I kind of want to try this. I don't. I 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.400 don't want to try it at all. I think it's 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.120 really awful, But let me know how it is. I'm 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.320 totally gonna try this. Okay, seriously, dude, let let me 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.600 know how it is so you mentioned milk toast, we 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.800 can't not mention milk toast, not to be confused with 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.680 milk steak. This is milk toast. And although it was 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.440 a rage in like the nineteenth century, they think it 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.320 was actually invented in New England. And it was basically 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:47.200 toast with warm milk and then something like cinnamon, sugar, 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.400 maple syrup something like that. Uh. It could be eaten 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.880 as a breakfast. It was frequently given to people on 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.080 their sick beds Um. It was just comfort food, early 0:16:56.160 --> 0:17:00.080 comfort food. UM. And it actually gave us UM a 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:05.000 comic strip character's name, Casper Milk Toast, And I looked 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.200 up Casper milk Toast. I've I've heard of him plenty 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.240 of times, but I never actually saw Casper Milk Toast 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:14.320 comic strip. And it was like looking into a mirror. 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.959 I actually didn't look it up. I'm doing so right now. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.040 This guy. Life is just so hard for this guy 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.359 because no, no, no, his his like the things that 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.640 the way he sees the world just like looking into 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.680 a mirror. Everything is so hard and difficult, and everybody 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.280 just wants to beat him up. And it's just I 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.080 was like, wow, I got more than a little strain 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:37.080 of Casper milk toast. To me, it's worth looking up 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.920 for sure, like a tear in your eye. Uh So, 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.960 milk toast is um. I had kind of had a 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.879 vision for it as like toast floating and like a 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.639 thin plate of milk, And it turns out there's kind 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.520 of all kinds of ways. I've seen it recipes where 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.119 it's toast with like a milky cream that you kind 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.480 of drizzle over it. But then I've seen it also 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.320 like as if you just chop up toast and eat 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.160 it like a bowl of cereal. Yeah. I don't think 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.159 there's any specific rules on eating milk toast. I'm going 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.880 to try that too. I would try that for sure. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.959 It sounds pretty good. Um. One thing I came across 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.119 chuck that it just kept popping up is apparently toast 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.240 back in this time was was way thinner. I saw 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.600 it cut. It should be cut to about a quarter inch, 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:27.639 which is really thin toast, almost appallingly thing. Yeah, it 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.200 is very much Melbourne, like I think, maybe twice as 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.159 wide as as your standard Melbourne toast, but I mean 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.320 it's still pretty thin. It would be brittle really fast. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:40.040 If you asked me should we take a break, we should? 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.280 Did you forget that part? All right, we'll be right 0:18:43.320 --> 0:19:13.400 back everybody. So this is going so so far, so far, 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.840 so so so far. Yeah, it's harder to say than 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.199 it sounds. You got to practice in your head right 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.000 before you said, I did not by the way, I 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.159 really love I didn't want it to go unmentioned that 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:31.720 I really dug your milksteak ref so you slid it 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.280 in there so quickly that I didn't want to get 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.040 because sometimes we'll do that and we'll get letters or 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.399 like could blue choked left when he said milk steak 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:46.920 boiled over hard? Uh? Okay, there's one other thing we 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:51.000 got to talk about, and that is means of creating 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.920 toast from bread. Yeah, these are the implements that I 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.720 that I mentioned, which it's funny a lot of these 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:02.320 implements look basically are just like modern camping implements. There 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:06.400 are all kinds of little camping toasty things, including telescoping, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.040 which was invented it looks like in the Victorian era. Um, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:12.800 they're not as fancy as they used to be, but 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.000 all kinds of things that are basically kind of like 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:20.000 camping toasters. Yeah, because that's basically what everyone was doing 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:24.360 in the nineteenth century was camping indoors, so they had those. 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.520 They had toasting forks, and they had toasting forks for 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.960 hundreds of years. There was not a lot of innovation 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.560 on that, although they tinkered with you know how many 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.359 times it had or just kind of trying to improve 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.000 the toast fork, but that that was how you made 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.520 toast for a really long time. And then they came 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.080 up with stoves and somebody very quickly said we can 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.440 attach like a little thing onto the front of the 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.000 stove and direct some of that heat onto a little 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.879 toast rack and make toast that way. That was a 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:55.320 pretty big innovation, I guess, but it wasn't until electric 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.880 power came along that toast really started to come into 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.560 its own if you ask me, H for sure. But 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.600 I also want to shout out the toast track because 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.080 that is the thing I didn't know as a thing 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.399 until I saw it, and I was like, I love this, 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.720 It's brilliant. Why don't they still have these? And they do? 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.359 They do. I saw somebody and on like some toast 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.760 form or whatever, thing like do not eat toast? Without 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.280 a toast track. And if you don't have a toast track, 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.639 like lean your toast up against like a glass or 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.280 something like that. Like that's how you store toast until 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.440 you eat it, and you should be eating it pretty 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.600 quickly after you make it. Yeah, and to be clear, 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:31.320 this is not a means of cooking. But if you're 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.719 serving like a brunch or a breakfast at your house, uh, 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.399 you you toast all the toast, and it's sort of 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.160 like a little miniature bike rack with a caddie handle. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.200 I think of it more like a little remember those 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.520 little forty five record stands? Sure, oh yeah that too, 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:48.960 kind of like that. Yeah, but it keeps you know. 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.959 I think the ideal way to like you said, to um, 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.920 store toast until it goes in your mouth is not 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.800 laying down on the plate where it can collect that 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:02.560 condensation and moisture because heat gets the heat, my god, 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.560 the heat. Like you pick up a piece of toast, 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:09.080 if you see um water on your plate, you're doing 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:13.040 it wrong, right, And the toast track gets around that. So, yes, 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:14.840