1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: joined now by Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. We're going 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: to dive into President Trump's announcement last week that he's 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: going to be bringing the National Guard into Memphis, which, 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: according to many measures of violent crime on a per 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: capita basis, may well be the most dangerous city in 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the entire country. But I want to start with this, 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Senator Blackburn. First of all, I missed you in Knoxville, 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: where you and I were both attending the Georgia Tennessee game, 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: which did not end well for the good guys in 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: this case the team wearing orange. But I know that 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: you were all over the place there and it's a 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: sporting event. But I bet you had a similar experience 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: as I did, Senator Blackburn, which is the number of 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: people who came up to me that wanted to talk 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: about what happened to Charlie Kirk, even at a sporting event, 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: was unlike anything I've ever seen before. No One usually 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: people want to come up and it's almost exclusively, Hey, 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: who's going to win the game? What do you think 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: is going to happen? Almost everybody that came up to 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: me at the sporting event wanted to talk about the 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk situation. I not asked you this, but I 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: bet you found it to be similar as well. And 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: I know you have a grandson that attends the same 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: school as my sons, and the impact on young men 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: in particular of this assassination has been extraordinarily awful. But 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: their response has been I have seen very profoundly courageous. 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: I've been very encouraged. So that's a big prelude, But 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you found in both those situations. 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, I will tell you. I have been just 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: so honored about the conduct of my grandsons and their 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: classmates and how they held a memorial for Charlie Kirk 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: and for the remembrance of nine eleven. And our grandson 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: even noticed that the flags had not been moved to 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: half staff before before class started, so he walked out 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: to the flagpole and he lowered the flag to half staff, 37 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 2: and I think one of the teachers kind of got 38 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: in behind him a little bit about it, but he 39 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: said he was following the president's order for all flags 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: to fly at half staff until six pm on Sunday, 41 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: and I said, you know, if that's what you get 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: in trouble for, that's a pretty good thing. Honoring someone 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: who was assassinated, honoring those that lost their lives in 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: our military, who fought after nine to eleven, in all 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: of those brave first responders, and doing what the President 46 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: said was the order of the day, which was lowering 47 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: the flags. And you're right about being get University of Tennessee. 48 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: We could hardly get through the crowd, like you said, 49 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: without people saying, look, we stand with Charlie Kirk, we 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: stand with family values in Tennessee values and morals, and 51 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: we stand with the President. And it was just such 52 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: an outpouring, I think for so many college students, whether 53 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: you were there in Circle Park or at one of 54 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: the fraternity houses or wherever play. It was astounding to 55 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: me that these kids were such a fan of Charlie Kirk. 56 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: They listened to him, they followed him, they enjoyed his podcast, 57 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: and they wanted to They love the way he speaks 58 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: truth and have so gravitated to that. They loved President Trump, 59 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: and they just wanted to register their shock and they're 60 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: just appointment with what had happened and their grief in 61 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: many respects. And we had a great sermon yesterday at 62 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: our church and the minister said something I think is 63 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: so important is that while we turn the other cheek, 64 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: and we know to turn the other cheek through evil, 65 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: we cannot turn a blind eye. And that is incumbent 66 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 2: on us to remember that we have to push back 67 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: and fight against evil. And it is pure evil that 68 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: caused someone to try to silence Charlie Kirk. And as 69 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: we have seen, his message now will be more powerful 70 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: than ever. The outpouring of support for Charlie and his 71 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: work for Erica and their children. It is not singular, 72 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: but it is global in nature, and indeed, I think 73 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: this is truly a turning point. 74 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us. Something that's also 75 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: getting some attention in the news cycle today is the 76 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: move by President Trump to perhaps bring National Guard and 77 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: bring federal resources to your home state and specifically to 78 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: help tackle the out of control murder rate in the 79 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: city of Memphis. What can you tell us you know 80 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: about this so far, what stage is the planning and 81 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: do you believe that this would be able to have 82 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: a marked impact and effect to bring that murder rate down. 83 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, I do think it is going to be helpful. 84 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: And what we know is this Cash Battel gave me 85 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: a commitment when he came to meet with me before 86 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: his hearing for his FBI confirmation, and I'm on Senate 87 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee. I asked him in my office and then 88 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: again publicly at the hearing to help me with Memphis 89 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: and getting an FBI surge in Memphis. Under President Trump's 90 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: first term, we had a program there called Legend. It 91 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: had great results. Biden ended it. Crime surged. We needed 92 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: something back. So this summer for two months we had 93 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 2: Operation Viper. There have been over five hundred arrest There 94 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: have already been over one hundred indictments. We know Memphis 95 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: has one hundred games. They have a per capital murder 96 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: rate of twenty five hundred per one hundred thousand. That 97 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: is why it's the most dangerous city in the country. 98 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 2: We know that during the surge, Memphis had the best 99 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: August it has had in years. Whether it's murders or 100 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: rapes or sifts burglaries, assaults, all the numbers have been 101 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: down and significantly down. Some the best in twenty years, 102 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: some the best in over five years, so this has 103 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: made a difference. Now the surge with the FBI is over. 104 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: They've worked closely with Memphis Police, with the Mayor of Memphis, 105 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: and they need to continue this multi phase approach and 106 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: it has been an interdisciplinary strategy with different agencies. So 107 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: in order to back up the Memphis Police Department, you 108 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: will have the National Guard. Now they can go in, 109 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: they can do paperwork, they can do logistics, they can 110 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: do traffic. There so many things they can do and 111 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: this will allow Memphis Police, who do have arrest powers 112 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: to go in and apprehend others in these gangs and 113 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: get them off the streets. And that's where Memphis PD 114 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: needs to be focused is continuing to apprehend these gang 115 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: leaders and gang members that are selling drugs, that are 116 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: doing sex trafficking, human trafficking, that are carrying out these sets. 117 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: You know, in Memphis, it's a logistics hub, and we 118 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: have the port at Memphis. We have all five Class 119 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: A railroads I forty that goes from the east coast 120 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: to the west coast, and you also have fet X. 121 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: So when you've got all of this with the river, 122 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: the rail the highways, the air cargo, theft is a 123 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: big issue, and these gangs have created processes to go 124 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: in and rip these containers and carry out cargo theft. 125 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: So being able to have the police work with these companies, 126 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: whether it's rail or water, our highways and I get 127 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: a handle around this cargo theft is vitally important. Also, 128 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: so the National Guard is going to be appreciated. They 129 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: are going to be welcomed in Memphis. We want Memphis 130 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: to be safe, We want it to be prosperous. It 131 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: is a wonderful city. It has a brilliant it has 132 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: a promising future, and a big part of that is 133 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: getting the crime under control. 134 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: Center Blackburn, I just Buck and I started off the 135 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: show talking about the dark soul of the left in 136 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: this country that so many people have felt compelled publicly 137 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That's a big question, 138 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: and it's one that I've been thinking about a lot. 139 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: How do we fix this? Because if your soul is 140 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: so dark that when you see a father murdered in 141 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: cold blood simply for sitting in front of an open 142 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: mic and saying tell me whatever you believe, too, the 143 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: soul of so many people is profoundly evil here. How 144 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: do we fix the rot in our culture? What can 145 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: we do. 146 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: Well? 147 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: I this is something that talking with people through the 148 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: process of legislation that I have worked on with the 149 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: Kids Online Safety Act and trying to get that passed. 150 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: And you look at what these young people are picking 151 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: up on social media. They become isolated. They get onto 152 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: these platforms like Reddit and discord, and they get into 153 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: these discussion groups and instead of it being a tool 154 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: that opens their mind and something for good, it narrows 155 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: their thought process and they become very angry. So I 156 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: think the church has a role to play in this. 157 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: I think parents have a role to play in this. 158 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: A governance for social media platforms have a role to 159 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: play in this. Looking at the mental health of kids, 160 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: that is something that has to be done. It's not 161 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: going to be fixed by one thing or another thing. 162 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: But I do believe that strong families can help. I 163 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: do believe is that getting kids off of these social 164 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: media platforms that will help. I do think that incur 165 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: And I will say this, I think the Governor of 166 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: Utah has done an exemplary job in this getting kids 167 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: off these devices. You know, right now, the studies that 168 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: we have seen as we worked on keeping kids safe 169 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: and trying to hold social media to account. You know, 170 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: kids are spending teenagers are spending as much as eight 171 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: hours a day on the phone, yeah, eight hours. Middle 172 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: school kids are spending about five. And when they're doing this, 173 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: they're being exposed to things that young minds are not 174 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: equipped to see this. I mean, this is why we 175 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: have ratings on movies in theaters. You can't take a 176 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: tile to an X rated movie. You can't sell them 177 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: alcohol or tobacco or firearms. You can't take them to 178 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: a pornographic show or a strip club or sell them magazines. 179 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: But on the virtual space, they're exposed to it twenty 180 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: four to seven and they become desensitized. And you know, 181 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: I just I am and some of my friends. We 182 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: are just praying, deeply, praying that skills will fall from eyes, 183 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: and that people will awaken and they will realize what 184 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: is happening to our children in our society. That they 185 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: will encourage our children to boldly stand for values and 186 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: for right and to stand against some of this evil 187 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: presence to come off of these devices. And that means 188 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: that adults, parents, teachers, preachers, everyone's going to have to 189 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: do their part. 190 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 3: Senator Blackbird always appreciates you. Thanks for joining us. 191 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: You got it. 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We said, we 221 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: only want to focus on those who we are sure 222 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: were making the horrific decision to celebrate what happened to 223 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: our friend Charlie Kirk. A lot of you are telling 224 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: me you've done the the sleuthing on this one. 225 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: Though. 226 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: We're getting a lot of talkbacks about this. Remember I 227 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: didn't say one of the other I'm just saying that 228 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: TMZ claims, No, that's not what happened. I have not 229 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: dug into the tape. A bunch of you were saying 230 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: you have dug into the tape meeting you put simultaneous 231 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: to the car chase and TMZ up here, we've got 232 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: Chris from Tampa who listens on WFLA play it. 233 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 6: Hey, guys, that TMZ thing is real. They people have 234 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 6: broke down on that video and got the actual car chase. 235 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 6: The announcers on the car chase like whatever time it 236 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 6: was one or something like that matches the clock that's 237 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 6: next behind Harvey when he's doing the interview. When the 238 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 6: people start cheering, as the announcers on the car chase 239 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 6: said that Trump just said that Charlie Kurt bad, that's 240 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 6: when they started cheering. 241 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: I don't I don't have to go back and watch 242 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: this and link this up. 243 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. 244 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: I haven't. I've only seen the Hey, that's not what 245 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: was going on. If it was going on, then. 246 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: We obviously condemn it. If it was what's going on. 247 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: But I've just I think it's only fair to note 248 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: that they claimed quickly that that wasn't what was going on. 249 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: So now we're relying on but a lot of people 250 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: are calling and saying that, you know, they've done the analysis, 251 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: so uh, they say, no, you know, we're reporting, we're not. 252 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: I'm not claiming one way or the other. We're reporting 253 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: that this is what they said, and others are saying, no, 254 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: that's not what happened. 255 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: All I can say is this, I ran a media company. 256 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: If that had happened when I ran a media company, 257 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: I would be deeply concerned about the culture that I 258 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: had created, and I would fire everyone. This is one 259 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: of the good things about being the boss. You get 260 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: to make decisions about the culture that you're going to 261 00:16:54,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: allow to exist. A culture that celebrates death, legitimately celebrates 262 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: death is not a culture that I want to be 263 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: affiliated with, and so I would I would fire, and 264 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a very difficult decision to make. 265 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 7: Buck. 266 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: And if I were Harvey Levin and that were true, 267 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: I wouldn't cover for employees. I would fire them, and 268 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: I would do so publicly, because you are the culture 269 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: that you create inside of any business, inside of any organization, 270 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: and if you've got cheering going on there, I can't 271 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: trust the opinion of anybody inside of TMC. 272 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I totally agree with all of that. Let's take 273 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: Gretchen and Georgia. Hello, yeah, Gretcha. We got about twenty seconds, 274 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: but we want to get you in. 275 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 8: Go ahead, that there's always going to be evil. There's 276 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 8: always going to be evil, and there's always going to 277 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 8: be good, and you can't get rid of evil. Unfortunately. However, 278 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 8: I believe one of the ways to fight it with 279 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 8: these people that are saying these bad things about Charlie, 280 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 8: I think we need to process all the wonderful things 281 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 8: that Charlie has done since the age of eighteen, and 282 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 8: we need to keep talking to all those people that 283 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 8: he says and brought to Christianity, and we need to 284 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 8: keep talking about Christianity. 285 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 5: That's how we fight evil. 286 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: Totally agree. Thank you so much for the call. Excellent. Look, 287 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 3: it was nearly two years ago the terrorists murdered more 288 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: than twelve hundred innocent Israelis and took two hundred and 289 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: fifty hostage. This wasn't the only attack in Israel, but 290 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: the first of dozens of subsequent attacks from three more 291 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 3: hostile forces. There's a movement in this nation to remember 292 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: that first brutal attack. It's one of love and support 293 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: for the people of Israel, called Flags of Fellowship, and 294 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: it's organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. 295 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: It's happening just a few weeks from now, on October fifth, 296 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: millions across America will prayerfully plant an Israeli flag and 297 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: honor and solidarity with the victims of October seventh. You 298 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 3: can be part of this movement too. To get more 299 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: information about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, 300 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: visit the Fellowship online at IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ 301 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: dot org. 302 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I want 303 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: to give you kind of an indication of what some 304 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: faculty members are saying. This is who the University of 305 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: Tennessee just fired. She went on social media. This professor 306 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: did Tamar Sharinian, and she said his kids are better 307 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: off living in a world without a disgusting psychopath like him, 308 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: and his wife is a sick blank for marrying him, 309 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: so I don't care about her feelings. 310 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 6: The world is. 311 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Better off without him, And even those who were claiming 312 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: to be sad for his wife and kids, like his 313 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: kids are better off living in a world without a 314 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: disgusting psychopath like him, and his wife, well, she's a 315 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: sick blank for marrying him, so I don't care about 316 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: her feelings. That seems pretty If you're a taxpayer, funded 317 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: employee of the University of Tennessee. I don't think you 318 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: should be employed in posting those things on public after 319 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: a political assassination. There are lots of things she can 320 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: do for a living, work being funded by partly my 321 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: tax dollars. That seems like a really easy call to me. 322 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 9: I don't know. 323 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think anybody who's like, hey, you know what, 324 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: this is unacceptable. You're a public employee and you have 325 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: decided to post that. I don't think you should be 326 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: teaching kids at the University of Tennessee. I don't think 327 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: that's a difficult standard. 328 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 5: Buck. 329 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: I also wanted to play this. Dan Lanning is the 330 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: coach of the University of Oregon. I'm not going to 331 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: say that this is the greatest, most perfect statement that's 332 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: ever been made, but Charlie Kirk was a big University 333 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: of Oregon fan, and Dan Lanning wanted to acknowledge him 334 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: after the game that they played against Northwestern. So this 335 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: is what Dan Lanning said. He's the coach of the 336 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: University of Oregon. Oregon pretty blue state. But Dan Lanning 337 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: felt that he wanted to speak out about this. It 338 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: would have been easy for him to say nothing at all. 339 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: I thought this was very well said. Not saying it's perfect, 340 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: but I did want to play this because Charlie Kirk 341 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: would have been very impressed that this happened. He was 342 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: a huge University of a Oregon fan. He never met 343 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: Dan Lanning, but this is what Dan Lanning had to say. Listen, 344 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: have you recently found. 345 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 7: Out, like Charlie Kirk was an Oregon fan? 346 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: Right? 347 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 7: I didn't know that. 348 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: I hurt for his wife, Erica and their kids like 349 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: that sort of evil should never exist in our country, 350 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 4: and that's what it is. 351 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 7: Evil. 352 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: I wish the world could learn a little bit of 353 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: something from our locker room, because we got. 354 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 7: A bunch of people with differences in what you got in. 355 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 7: There is a bunch of people love there. 356 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 4: And there's some people that'll be disappointed about how much 357 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: I said about this, right, And there'll be some people 358 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: that are disappointed that I didn't say enough. 359 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 7: Right now, I really don't care, right. 360 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: What I do care about is if you disagree with me, 361 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: if you hate me, if you don't like me, just 362 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 4: know this, I love you. 363 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 7: I absolutely love you, right, and life matters. 364 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: And that's no way that Charlie should have experience that 365 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 4: his family should experience. 366 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 7: That there's no way that evil should exist in this world. 367 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I reached out to Dan to let him know 368 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: that Charlie was a University of Oregon fan and he 369 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: wanted to say something after the game. Now, I've been 370 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: to a lot of postgame press conferences. A lot of 371 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: coaches avoid saying anything because, especially a guy in a 372 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: blue state. I'm sure if you go online and you 373 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: look that Dan Lanning is getting ripped, I would encourage 374 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: all of you say thank you. Sometimes people ask, hey, 375 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: how do we win in a world of culture? You 376 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: just heard Dan Lanning there. He's getting ripped by a 377 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: lot of people who are saying, how dare he say 378 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: something positive about Charlie Kirk and his family? Use your 379 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: social media for good? Just a suggestion if you hear 380 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: and see somebody standing up for just speaking out and 381 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: taking slings and arrows. One thing for Be and Buck, 382 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: we appreciate and love that you guys have our back 383 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: and it means a time, trust me. But in the 384 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: larger culture, there are people that the left is going 385 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: to try to slap down that are influential, that aren't 386 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: talking to you every day for three hours go give 387 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: them support, stand up for them. 388 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: Clay and I are shock troops, like we're used to. 389 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: All the the slings and arrows are meant for us. 390 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: We take them and that's the deal. A lot of 391 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 3: other people, though, in positions where they have a platform, 392 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: but this is not their job, that support really does 393 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 3: matter because they're not used to it. Clay, I come 394 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: across people sometimes who have a public facing job, not 395 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: what we do right, not media, and they'll say, you know, 396 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: how is it? You know, do you get upset or 397 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: does it bother you when people say these things? 398 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: You say? 399 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: And I've had to tell them honestly, you get numb 400 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: to the psychos. You just love the good people and 401 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: that's how you go for it every day. You know 402 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 3: who the good people are, You know who the lunatics are, 403 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: and the lunatics their words, you know, sticks and stones. 404 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: I think that's true, and your boy is, and probably 405 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: hopefully future kids will grow up in a world and 406 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: I think, you know, you just got to talk to 407 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: the kids. I mean, I think it's somewhat helpful for 408 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: my boys that they are able to see the difference 409 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: between what people say about me and what day to 410 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: day existence with Dad is and I think that in 411 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: all facets of life, it's important to remember that a 412 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: lot of what you see online is not true, and 413 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: teaching kids that is important. But for people who are 414 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: not necessarily in the fight every day, like Buck and 415 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: I are, who are used to taking the slings and arrows, 416 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: I do think it's been very easy for Dan Lanning 417 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: to say nothing at all. It would have been incredibly easy. 418 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: Most coaches are going to choose not to say anything 419 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: at all. He when he found out that Charlie Kirk 420 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: was a big Oregon fan, he wanted to make sure 421 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: that he acknowledged him, that he spoke out even though 422 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: he's in a blue state, even though he's in a 423 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: prominent position. And I do think that as a culture, 424 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: we can embrace people who are willing to do what 425 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: it's right, even though there may be a cost in 426 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: them and even though arguably their job is not in 427 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: that arena. I thought that what Dan Lanning said was 428 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: really impressive. 429 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: I hadn't heard of this coach, not surprising to anybody 430 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 3: until you brought this up and told me about this Clay. 431 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 3: And you can just tell this is a man who 432 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: wants to sleep well at night and doesn't want to think. 433 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: You know what, I could have spoken out and been 434 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: a part of the solution, or I could have been 435 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: quiet and maybe felt a little bit like I was 436 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: being a wimp. Yeah, and he decided that he wanted 437 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 3: to sleep knowing that he took a stand for what's right. 438 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: And I think there are a lot of people out 439 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: there who have that that impulse right now, and you know, 440 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: they should all be they should all be commended, and 441 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: we should hopefully see a lot more of that. Jinny 442 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: in South Carolina, Ginny, you wanted a wayh in let's talk. 443 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 444 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 9: Hey, I just want to let you know that I 445 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 9: heard where clay Son is fifteen today and he started 446 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 9: the chapter. Now she's wanna let to night that My 447 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 9: daughter is also has a birthday today, she's seventeen, and 448 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 9: she also started the initiative at her high school to 449 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 9: start a Turning Point USA chapter. 450 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: So, happy birthday to your daughter. She's seventeen. My son's 451 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: turning fifteen. He did not start. He went to the 452 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: I just want to be clear. He went to all 453 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: of the events on campus. And there are tons of 454 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: young men at his school who were dressing up in 455 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: supportive and to Jenny, to your point, this is actually awesome. 456 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: There is an overflow reportedly of kids at different high 457 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: schools all over the country, of kids at different colleges 458 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: all over the country who want to start their own 459 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: Turning Point organizations in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. 460 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: So we get a lot of questions about young people, 461 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: and your daughter's doing exactly what she should be doing. 462 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: Happy birthday to her, Jenny, Thank you for calling in. 463 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: This is what your kids can do. If you've got 464 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: young boys and they were particularly troubled by what they saw, 465 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of you do young girls 466 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: and they were particularly troubled by what they saw, have 467 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: him start turning point organizations, Have them speak out and 468 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: be courageous and brave on Charlie's behalf. It's turning one 469 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: of the most awful stories that any of us have 470 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: ever seen in our lives, a political assassination like this, 471 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: into The best positive result that could be is that 472 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: we have more people speaking out and creating opportunities for 473 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: others all over the country. 474 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: Chris in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, you're up. 475 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 7: Chris, Hi there? 476 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would like I just heard the Dan Lanning 477 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 5: interview that you guys played. You know, that's what Charlie was. 478 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 5: Charlie was somebody that was in the daylight, exampling his 479 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 5: faith that he loved everybody that was around him, even 480 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 5: the ones as much that came against him as the 481 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 5: ones that came for him. And that is and that 482 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 5: is key to faith. That is key to what Jesus 483 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 5: Christ teaches us to love everybody. It isn't that you 484 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: love this one or that one, because the people across 485 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: the Islea want to play games with loving with terms 486 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 5: terms and love are incompatible. 487 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: Look, I think that what you are and a lot 488 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: of people are recognizing is Charlie's impact was seismic at 489 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: finding kids where they are. And this is what we're 490 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: trying to do with this show. This is why I've 491 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: talked about YouTube, this is why I've talked about TikTok. 492 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: This is why heck there is a video version of 493 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: the show, is because so many people out there consume 494 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: media in different ways now than they did traditionally. Russia 495 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: is an a legend, absolute incredible voice for freedom Radio 496 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five was a way that was the 497 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: best way to reach the audience twenty twenty five, we 498 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: got to be everywhere. The number of media that existed 499 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five compared to now, you had basically 500 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: tell television, cable, and you had radio. Most young people 501 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: don't listen to traditional radio. Most young people don't even 502 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: watch traditional television anymore. And the reason why there's a 503 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: video version of this show is we're trying to go 504 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: where the audience is. We want to find them on YouTube, 505 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: we want to find them on TikTok, we want to 506 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: find them on Instagram, wherever they are Twitter, certainly where 507 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: Buck and I are very active. You got to go 508 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: where the audience is. And I think Charlie saw it. 509 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: And when you go where the audience is a lot 510 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: of people Buck are very very responsive to these arguments, 511 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: and they're not seeing them any elsewhere. 512 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 5: The heck. 513 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: This is why to me, I still am not going 514 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: to give up sports, because a lot of sanity is 515 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: in the world of sports. You just heard what Dan 516 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: Lanning said. A lot of young men in particular, are 517 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: impacted a lot of young women by the coaches around them. 518 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: And I love sports and I always will and I'm 519 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: going to fight for sports to represent the meritocracy and 520 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: the best of America. And that's what the NFL on 521 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: the field tries to do. It's a meritocracy. College football 522 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: on the field, it's a meritocracy. The Major League Baseball, 523 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,239 Speaker 1: whatever sport is out there, it's the best man or 524 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: the best woman, not the best woman pretending to be 525 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: a man. And if you love sports, you can play 526 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: along with us at price picks. Use code Clay right now. 527 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: When you put in a five dollars pick, you get 528 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. Unfortunately, Derrick Henry didn't score for us yesterday. 529 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: We would have had a five to one payout. He 530 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: let us down. 531 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: Buck, How did Sequan do? Saquan had a good game, 532 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: just making sure because we know my mantra always bet 533 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: on Sequan. 534 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: And your boy Pickles got into an overtime game. I mean, 535 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: your guys had big games out there. You can go. 536 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: I'll give you a pick on Thursday. In fact, I'm 537 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: traveling on Thursday. I believe, oh boy, Buck may have 538 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: to give you the pick. 539 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 3: All right, you have to give them a handwritten but 540 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: val you know, do your back. I will write in English. 541 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: We'll see how this goes. 542 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: I will take a picture of the pick. Just you 543 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: never know how this is gonna go. Buck will be 544 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: giving out the pick on Thursday. 545 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: It adds an element of danger, adds an element of 546 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: mystery of the situation. 547 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: I will clip it. I have no idea how it's 548 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: gonna go. But you can play along with us. If 549 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: you go to prizepicks dot com use code Clay. You 550 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: get fifty dollars when you play five. 551 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 5: Look. 552 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: You can play in California, you can play in Texas, Georgia, 553 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: forty plus states. It's a lot of fun. We'll give 554 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: you a pick on Thursday. I can't guarantee that Buck 555 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: will accurately read my writing and give it to you'll 556 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: be close enough, but we will do our best. Price 557 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: picks dot com Code Clay go. Get signed up today. 558 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: That's pricepicks dot Com Code Clay. Making America great again 559 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: isn't just one man, It's many The team. 560 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 7: Forty seven podcast Sunday's at. 561 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: Noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find 562 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 563 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: We're closing up shot today and Clay and Buck now, 564 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: we so much appreciate all of you, and I'm here 565 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: in studio with play so we're getting the chance to 566 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: to hang out today together and after the show, we're 567 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: actually gonna be doing some video stuff because we're going 568 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 3: to be really upping our video efforts going forward. One 569 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: of the big focuses. A lot of you have asked 570 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: for it, so we're gonna be doing that. But Clay 571 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: was told because we have to specify these things. Ever 572 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: since little incident at the White House where Clay showed 573 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: up in like a Tommy Bahama shirt and cargo shorts 574 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: and was like, I'm here to see the President. They 575 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: were like, excuse me, or he didn't have his passport 576 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: with him because he doesn't have real ID, one or 577 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: the other. You can choose which version of the story. 578 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: You can choose which version of the story you believe. 579 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: I like my version better that he showed up in 580 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: Tommy Bahama. But Clay was told today not to wear 581 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: sandals or shorts, and he came through with that. I'm 582 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: not gonna lie, I thought. 583 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: But then he's so well. 584 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: He wore a shirt that technically has a collar. There 585 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 3: is technically a collar, but the collar is sort of 586 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: it's like it's blended into the rest of the shirt, like, 587 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 3: what do you do to your polo shirts? Do you 588 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: beat them with a baseball bat? Is this something you do? 589 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: I think that I look I think that I looked. 590 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: I intentionally dressed well today. 591 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: I mean the neck is so big, like Fabio would 592 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: blush if you could see how well it's got not buttoned. 593 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: But I I thought I looked good. I walked in 594 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: all confident this morning into the studio and producer Ali 595 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: was like, immediately, and we're not married, but this is 596 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: the equivalent of your wife saying, are you sure you're 597 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna wear that? 598 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 7: Yeah? 599 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: No, is that what you're wearing? It reminds me of 600 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: my electric blue golf polo that I was so excited 601 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: to wear before my wife was like, you look like 602 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: you work at best Buy and that shirt was donated 603 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: to somebody who perhaps wants to work at best Buy. 604 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: I bought this shirt when we were in DC, and 605 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: I thought I looked really good at it. I'm like, 606 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: it's Carolina blue. It's like a good look and I walk. 607 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 3: It's just the structure of it that I think is 608 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: more the it's it has. It's giving mumu a little bit. 609 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: I think that's why you know, it's a little a 610 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: little bit aggie, little big around some of the areas 611 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: that I. 612 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: Looked good in it. And then they bring in another 613 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: shirt that one of the producers gave me, and it. 614 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 3: Actually that looks like something Tony Soprano would be wearing. 615 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you the truth. That's very like a 616 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 3: by a being. 617 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 9: You know. 618 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's gonna work for you either, 619 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 3: but we'll post some of these videos onlines. You guys 620 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: can see. I'm just wearing a hooded sweatshirt which they 621 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 3: have approved, it seems for video purposes because they weren't 622 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: expecting much from me either. So I feel like I, 623 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: you know, I managed to get off easy this time. 624 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: I wore pants and a polo and I thought I 625 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: looked fantastic when I walked out of the hotel this morning, 626 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: and I am being told that I look off. 627 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: So it's just very casual, very casual. You know, you 628 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: look like somebody who as a flirty And I feel 629 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: like I can say this has just sort of ended 630 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: up living in one of the keys and not really 631 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 3: sure what he's gonna do today, tomorrow or next month, 632 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 3: but like he's there, you know, that's what that polo 633 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 3: is giving on. I'm just gonna start. 634 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start wearing tuxedos everywhere I go, and 635 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: then no one can ever complain about anything that I wear. 636 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: I actually there was a kid in my high school 637 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: who got in trouble for being in violation of dress 638 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: code a few times, and he did start showing up 639 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 3: in black tie with the ruffles just as like a 640 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 3: and he got in more trouble. 641 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: What I respect that, kids, I respect his intent. 642 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 3: I feel like you could pull that out, like if 643 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 3: I see you tonight on on Hannity or whichever Fox 644 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 3: show you're gonna do, and you're in full blown black tie. 645 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: You know, it used to be with gentlemen wore a 646 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: gentleman war, you know, as a more casual thing. Black 647 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: tie was the more casual it was. It was white 648 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: tails that was the more formal. So there you go. 649 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: But so anyway, there's a video version. I thought I 650 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: looked great. Evidently I do not. And we will see 651 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: how this all plays out. We're in New York City tomorrow, Buck, 652 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this probably a little bit more tomorrow, 653 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: And the timing on this ends up being I think 654 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: actually somewhat important. I am debating Stephen A. Smith, and 655 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an event. It'll be streamed. 656 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: A wive mine plays cutman, I may, I may be 657 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 3: rubbing his shoulders, but it's for the fight, everybody, It's 658 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: for the fight. 659 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: We're gonna be going to that event tomorrow as soon 660 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: basically as we finish the radio show tomorrow in New 661 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: York City. It'll be streaming. But you know, free speech, 662 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: I think has never mattered more than it does right now, 663 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: and so you should be able to argue for anything 664 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: under the sun that stops short of hey, it's great 665 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: to kill people. And we will break down all that. 666 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: We'll have a lot of fun. We're in New York 667 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: City together for the next several days, and in all seriousness, 668 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: we do appreciate all of you and how incredibly phenomenal 669 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: you have been as we dealt with I think, probably 670 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: as it fair to say, Buck, last week was the 671 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,479 Speaker 1: toughest week that we have ever had as a show, 672 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: Yes for sure, and so I hope we have helped 673 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: make your last week as much more much more bearable 674 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: because of us, and you certainly have made things much 675 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: better for us. 676 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 7: We'll see you tomorrow,