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Speaker 4: That's right, Do not adjust your radio dialis Martin Weiss

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Speaker 4: and Alex Monico in for Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington

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Speaker 4: on a trash talking Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's Alex Monico. What's hell?

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Speaker 5: Martin? Fired up to be here, baby, let's go glad to.

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Speaker 2: Be here as well.

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Speaker 4: You may have heard us on Saturday night, but you

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Speaker 4: know what, it's Tuesday. We're ready to go ahead and

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Speaker 4: get down to Let's introduce the Odd Couple crew while

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Speaker 4: we have the opportunity. DJ Alex Heiser, he's on the

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Speaker 4: ones and twoes and I have to say. I do

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Speaker 4: have to say last week I was talking big and

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Speaker 4: bad and my, oh my, how the turntables have turned.

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Speaker 4: I have it has been B two A as the

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Speaker 4: kids called.

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Speaker 2: And iPhone pool, you know the iPhone pool.

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Speaker 5: Wow, you're going to old school iPhone pool with him.

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Speaker 2: I will say this if you have my phone number.

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Speaker 4: I welcome all challenges, and I need them right now

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Speaker 4: because I'm on a cold streak. It's cold and Shekel

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Speaker 4: City in the middle of August. All right, I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you Alex Tyger's been whooping my ass. Kudos to you,

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Speaker 4: my friend changes today. Uh, super producer Rob G is

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Speaker 4: here as well. Who After we got off the phone

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Speaker 4: with Rob G, Alex Alex Monico said to us, Wow,

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Speaker 4: very collaborative.

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Speaker 5: Very clear, almost like JJ Reddick should be with Lebron

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Speaker 5: and Luca Martin.

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Speaker 4: Very collaborative, Steve de Sagers doing the updates and Elijah

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Speaker 4: doing media. Appreciate you guys and all the work that

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Speaker 4: you do. And again, once we can hopefully get the

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Speaker 4: Little League World Series off here and got watch real baseball,

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Speaker 4: then I'll be completely satisfied with the super producer Rob G.

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing, very much like you and I today,

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Speaker 4: Alex Monico, we are coming off the bench and going

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Speaker 4: much like Shador Sanders is getting his best shot right

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Speaker 4: now that he has had news broke just a couple

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Speaker 4: hours ago. Shador Sanders, not Kenny Pickett, not Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 4: and Miami Fame prior to this. Shador Sanders will be

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Speaker 4: getting the start Friday night against the Carolina Panthers, and

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Speaker 4: Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers, has already

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Speaker 4: said he's starting some of his guys on Friday. So

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Speaker 4: we are going to see Shador Sanders against the starters

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Speaker 4: for the Carolina Panthers in live action preseason albeit, but

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Speaker 4: it's the best football we got right now.

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Speaker 5: This is the best news out of Cleveland potentially all month.

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Speaker 4: Well, it depends on who's asking. I think it's terrible

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Speaker 4: news for Kenny Pickett and killing Gabriel.

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Speaker 5: Well, I had tweeted five foot eleven, Dylan Gabriel is

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Speaker 5: just killing me with the tape that I'm seeing, and

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Speaker 5: I just feel like Schadur's done to me outside of

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Speaker 5: we know the Cleveland Browns walls, nothing but what you

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Speaker 5: would want a leader to be. He's answering questions the

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Speaker 5: right way. He's showing up early, he's leaving late, he's

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Speaker 5: getting in extra reps and I would toss it back

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Speaker 5: to you, Martin. Is this a guy if he didn't

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of people even though he

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Speaker 4: this is how it works in the NFL. Like Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say was always going to get this opportunity,

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Speaker 4: because that's that's not true. But guys every single year

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Speaker 4: win and lose jobs because somebody else got hurt. It's

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Speaker 5: Better guy offspring of the man stay ready so you

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Speaker 5: alluded to Martin, this is what he did at multiple

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Speaker 4: Well, I it depends because if you look at the report,

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Speaker 4: So you look at the reports that have been coming out,

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Speaker 4: She's also the one who initially broke the story that

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Speaker 4: Shador Sanders was going to be getting this start. Mary

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Speaker 4: Kay has been covering the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Since movie Dick was a Guppy.

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Speaker 4: Now become Klon Browns for a very very long time,

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Speaker 4: and she was saying that, you know, the stats in

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Speaker 2: We're not there to see it.

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Speaker 4: We're not well, we're pulling all these clips from training

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Speaker 4: very much feels like summer league basketball, where if you

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Speaker 4: did you see such and such at twenty five? He

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Speaker 4: he was eight for twenty? Like you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 5: But I mean, if you're Stefanski, are you doing the

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Speaker 5: same exact rollout on Friday? I know everyone's banged up,

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Speaker 5: My whole thing the whole time, Martin has been this

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Speaker 5: is the number one most accurate quarterback in FBS. Coming

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Speaker 5: into the draft, nothing but Dogden dragged with his name

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Speaker 5: college football. We already know what Dylan Gabriel was he

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Speaker 5: And what Kenny Pickett's on his third club already and

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Speaker 5: Flacco's a cul de sac father of three. I think

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Speaker 5: the answer is easy for Friday Night. It's just how

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Speaker 2: And so I think that's the one.

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Speaker 4: And we'll talk about another thing that I think the

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Speaker 4: this is one that I think the media is really

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Speaker 4: wrong about in terms of shadure view, because.

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Speaker 2: I agree with everything you said. I watched him to college.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna be the first quarterback taken

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Speaker 4: was like, no, cam Ward's going number one for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's where I thought your

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Speaker 4: But none of that matters anymore, does it. Your draft

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Speaker 4: a lot of the question is will Shador Sanders make

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Speaker 4: the roster. I think some of that is overblown, but

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Speaker 2: Now here's the rub. Would you have gotten this opportunity

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: But they're not. So you do so now what? Now?

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Speaker 2: What are you going to do?

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Speaker 5: You do the only thing you know how to do, baby,

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Speaker 5: you ball.

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Speaker 4: And if you go out there and you show essentially

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Speaker 4: that makes this competition a lot more difficult to have

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Speaker 4: the other thing about this, we aren't going to see

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Speaker 4: more than likely Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett, nor Joe Flacco

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a great point. What's interesting about the

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Speaker 5: This is Shadar coming in and being a game manager

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Speaker 4: I think what he does Friday night to move up

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Speaker 4: thing staying healthy, sure, I think the more he shows

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Speaker 4: a mastery of the offense. From what I'm reading and

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Speaker 4: This the pre snap They look one high and they

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Speaker 4: right position. That's what's gonna impress me more than you

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Speaker 4: know if shador Like steps out of three sacks and

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Speaker 2: But when you know TJ. Watt is chasing him around

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Speaker 5: It's interesting because he does come under center with a

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Speaker 5: So to me, I think Sadur yes, can he do

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Speaker 4: The only guy, in my opinion, who has the capable

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Speaker 5: It should do it.

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Speaker 4: Now, do I think it'll happen, that's a different question.

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Speaker 4: But I'll say this, this is his his first best

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Speaker 4: Okay, look, yeah, you're and you are in a a what.

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Speaker 4: There's three chairs and there's four quarterbacks. Right, That's that's

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Speaker 4: We're asking if Shador Sanders gonna get cut. You know

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Speaker 4: If Shador Sanders goes out there and plays really well

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Speaker 5: You leut everyone down with the Watson signing without hesitation,

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Speaker 4: Alex, because I'm about to dip my toe into waters

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Speaker 4: But really a lot of times were giving our opinions

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 5: I'm dying out.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: What it is you can't play your starners in the preseason?

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Speaker 2: Why would you do that.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna let your guys get hurt in a meaningless

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Speaker 4: We're seeing starters across the board playing in these preseason games,

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Speaker 2: Now. Does everybody need to play in the preseason?

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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford's thirty seven years old, he's been playing football since.

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Speaker 4: Do I need to see Josh Allen playing the preseason?

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, Josh, how do you feel? You

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Speaker 4: What do you think they're doing Monday through Friday? What

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Speaker 4: but guess what your offensive lineman probably should block Monday

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Speaker 5: this is gonna be an exhibition. It's not gonna count

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Speaker 5: There's something to be said about performing versus practicing in

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of working with you on what is the

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Speaker 5: continuing to get more and more reps, almost a half worth,

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Speaker 5: et cetera.

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Speaker 2: And so out.

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Speaker 5: We watched a Hall of Fame game Gofston Street close.

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Speaker 5: No problem there, But I asked you off air too,

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Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy, what did you say to me?

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Speaker 4: I need I think it's a good idea that he's

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Speaker 4: playing in a preseason I need to see it. And

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Speaker 4: speaking of need to see it, there's another guy with

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Speaker 4: some of these training camp reports that we need to

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Speaker 4: see it and in this preseason game.

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Speaker 2: But it needs to look good.

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Speaker 4: Because yikes, but somebody who needs no preseason Steve to say.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 4: Steve, have you kept any eyes on this Twins Tigers game?

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Speaker 7: Did something happen mister Detroit?

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Speaker 4: I'm just the Tigers have only scored in this inning,

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Speaker 4: and the only reason they have scored is because Twins

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Speaker 4: outfielders have dropped multiple fly balls like the.

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Speaker 2: Runs are earned. But I'm just saying it run is earned.

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Speaker 2: I should say, listen, I'm sitting there washingt them. That's

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Speaker 2: a drop.

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Speaker 4: If they're playing football, they'd be like, you should have

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Speaker 4: caught that ball.

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Speaker 7: I have seen the Dodgers outfield defense this year. A

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Speaker 7: fully agree, and it's just this is just fast.

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Speaker 4: This is how you can really tell the big gap

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Speaker 4: between Triple A well and major leaguers because traded everybody and.

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Speaker 7: It was literally ten or eleven guys off the major

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Speaker 7: league roster that the Twins traded away in the past week.

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Speaker 7: May you, in fact, Alex could talk about this. Do

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Speaker 7: you remember it wasn't that many years ago when there

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Speaker 7: was a season the Padres were fielding essentially a Triple

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Speaker 7: A team.

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Speaker 2: For most of the year.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I remember, Steve, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was let's just say noticeable.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean, it's just this ending should have ended

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Speaker 4: well before your updates started and it's still going. But

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Speaker 4: all right, Martin Weiss, Alex Monico in for Rob Parker

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Speaker 4: and Calvin Washington on a trash talking Tuesday. We will

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Speaker 4: do trash talking Tuesday. At what time do we do

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Speaker 4: trash talking Tuesday? There we go seven eight forty five,

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Speaker 4: eight forty five eight forty five five.

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Speaker 2: Forty five Pacific.

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Speaker 4: We will give you the opportunity to trash whoever you'd

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Speaker 4: like to in the world of sports, and maybe it's

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Speaker 4: time to trash this guy. Reports from Jets camp have

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Speaker 4: been dire. Justin Fields is putting out as Jalen Royal

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Speaker 4: was once said about a shooting percentage tour dates instead

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Speaker 4: of completion percentage. I saw four for thirteen floating around.

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Speaker 4: I saw like a June seventeenth floating around. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's not been great reports from Jets camp about how

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields is, particularly his complete percentage. The passing seems

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Speaker 4: to be lacking. The big issue. Justin Fields plays quarterback

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Speaker 4: for the Jets.

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Speaker 5: Listen, that's New York media for you. I'm in it.

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Speaker 5: It is going to be in Jets camp proved to

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Speaker 5: me this is the guy because Bears fans, even Steelers fans,

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Speaker 5: have something to say about jf Now, you and I

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Speaker 5: I think we're on the right side here. I'm a

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Speaker 5: believer in Justin Fields. Are you writing a ton off

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Speaker 5: from these these August takeaways from camp? I think you

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Speaker 5: gotta give him some grace, Martin. He just got the town.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because when I first read these and Rob

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Speaker 4: g kind of poked my brain about it, I thought,

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Speaker 4: it really reminds me of a lot of this stuff

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Speaker 4: I'm hearing out of Bears camp, and I think differently,

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Speaker 4: not just because Ben Johnson and air Aaron Glenn both

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Speaker 4: came from Detroit, but more the messaging around the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And the only time that Aaron Glenn has not been

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Speaker 4: just head over heels, fully throated in his defense of

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields is when Justin Fields dislocated his toe, in which.

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Speaker 2: He was like, we'll be fine with Tyrod.

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Speaker 4: And I get it in that moment, because in that moment,

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Speaker 4: you're projecting, you know, strength to your team, and you

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Speaker 4: know sky is not falling. You cannot say, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields is done, so our season is done.

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Speaker 2: I thought Justin.

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Speaker 4: Fields should have started for Pittsburgh until they started to lose.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was I thought that Pittsburgh had found

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Speaker 4: an effective way to use Justin Fields offensively.

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Speaker 5: Ironically, let me throw it right back to you. The

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Speaker 5: mechanics of Steeers football is gonna be, in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 5: very similar to what Aaron Glenn wants to accomplish in

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Speaker 5: New York built inside out, have strong trenches, ideally on

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Speaker 5: both sides, but certainly on the defensive side. And then

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Speaker 5: let's not forget we got deck the halls at running

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Speaker 5: back brease and a competent, moving in the right direction

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Speaker 5: offensive line that was in turmoil when Rogers was there.

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Speaker 5: All Fields needs to do is what he did in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 5: which was win games, manage games, and uses athleticism when needed.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing I think, Okay, justin Fields, to me,

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Speaker 4: it seems evident through watching him play, watching tape so on,

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Speaker 4: he either does not trust it or does not see

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Speaker 4: it a lot. If if first guy is covered, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't seem that he is rotating through the defense, moving

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Speaker 4: through his progressions. It doesn't seem like that it's something

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Speaker 4: that he is actively doing at a high level. And

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Speaker 4: I think it kind of caught up to him in

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And I think ultimately it will.

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Speaker 4: It is what will stop him from being an elite

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Speaker 4: or even top top anything quarterback, sure, right, but what

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Speaker 4: I do think is his speed and athleticism in today's NFL,

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Speaker 4: where you're c teams winning super Bowls with Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 4: and being successful with like the likes of obviously Lamar

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Speaker 4: Jackson has souped up version, but like the quarterback that

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Speaker 4: can move is something that really helps along the way

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Speaker 4: of moving your offense.

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Speaker 2: I think, okay, I.

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Speaker 4: Will essuee some of Justin Field's completion percentage some of

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Speaker 4: my third down limitations with the idea that on third

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Speaker 4: and six he might just tuck it and get me ten.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think that's valuable, especially at a team like the

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Speaker 4: Jets in a division like the AFC East, because if

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Speaker 4: you just look around the division, Miami is a dumpster fire.

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Speaker 4: I think Mike McDaniels got a great got a great

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Speaker 4: shot to be first coach fired. Tyreek Hill can't stop talking,

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Speaker 4: and it's just been worse and worse every time. He

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Speaker 4: was better when he wasn't paying any attention. All Right,

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Speaker 4: The Bills are the Bills, you know. I don't expect

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Speaker 4: to see a major drop off from them. And then

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Speaker 4: even what a major drop off from them will be

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Speaker 4: with nine wins, do you know what I mean? There's

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Speaker 4: still like a major drop off and them will be

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Speaker 4: flirting with five hundred. So I don't think that they're

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Speaker 4: going anywhere in the relevancy of this conversation and the

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Speaker 4: other wild card in the division or the unknown in

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Speaker 4: the division. I should say the Patriots another new head coach,

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Speaker 4: not a first year this time, but a new head

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Speaker 4: coach in Mike Vrabel. You look roster to roster, Patriots

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Speaker 4: added a lot of free agents, did a lot in

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Speaker 4: the draft, boosted up front. I think the Jets skilled

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Speaker 4: players are better than the Patriots skilled players.

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Speaker 5: Skilled players in New York have been above par around

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Speaker 5: the league. This is set up for a quarterback two

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Speaker 5: plug and play.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 5: Of course Tanner the passing game coordinator by way of

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Speaker 5: the Lions coming in as oc here with ag coming

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Speaker 5: from Detroit. So we'll see out what kind of in particular,

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Speaker 5: and we'll know more once we see preseason action curated

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Speaker 5: game plan he has around field. But tossing it back

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Speaker 5: to you, Martin, this is a guy who had a

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Speaker 5: mountain of pressure in Chicago, who was on really a

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Speaker 5: pitch count in Pittsburgh because Russ was kind of promised

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Speaker 5: he was going to get that role, win healthy. Now

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Speaker 5: he comes to New York, a place that has no

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Speaker 5: patience from a Jets pov with we need to win now.

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Speaker 5: But We're also in year one Aaron Glenn's program.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that the Jets are in and we

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Speaker 4: need to win now. Mo, you don't think I don't think.

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Speaker 2: It's New York baby. We got no talk, all right,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, sure I get it. The back page is

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Speaker 2: the pressure is so hard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why the whole win now has really worked

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Speaker 4: for any New York team in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 2: But uh, but I just I don't. It doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: like that to me.

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Speaker 4: I think that Aaron Glenn is not necessarily getting a

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Speaker 4: there's there's a honeymoon period of sorts. I think with

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Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn right now, I put it to you like this,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn said today or yesterday that his big move

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Speaker 4: to get the Jets to stop committing so many penalties

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Speaker 4: is to.

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Speaker 2: Have officials at practice.

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Speaker 4: Officials at practice is something that has been going on

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Speaker 4: for in my NFL. Nowed's at least a decade. Right,

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Speaker 4: That's not new. That's not new at all. If Robert

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Speaker 4: Sala had said that last year at this time of year,

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Speaker 4: people would have been making fun of him for it

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Speaker 4: would have been doing laps everywhere, making how much fun

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Speaker 4: they would have been making of him for saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: now you think of it, Aaron Glenn says it today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you know, let's see how it works.

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Speaker 5: Well, you're drawing parallels to Caleb and Ben Johnson in Chicago.

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Speaker 5: Who do you think is under a shorter leash of

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Speaker 5: we need to win now, Bears camp with Ben Johnson

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Speaker 5: and Caleb or Jets camp with Justin and Eric.

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Speaker 2: No, that answers to the Bears. It's not even close.

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Speaker 5: See, because I feel on the New York side, this

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Speaker 5: team was built with championship expectations. With Rogers, they just

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Speaker 5: had the quarterback not meshed with the head coach. Now

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Speaker 5: it's obviously a flirting phase where we see, let's see

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Speaker 5: if Justin Fields is this guy. I just don't know

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Speaker 5: how Aaron Glenn comes in and completely blows us unless

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Speaker 5: Justin Fields reverts back to maybe he needs to go

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Speaker 5: get a little Jamis Winston Lasik if you will, and

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Speaker 5: he truly cannot see open receivers because they're, to your

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Speaker 5: point earlier, are so above average at key skill position

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Speaker 5: spots working on the offensive line. I've seen it in

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Speaker 5: the last two years. I think the pressure is on

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Speaker 5: the Jets even though the Bears fans have been waiting

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Speaker 5: since Rex Grossman to get back.

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Speaker 4: Here's where You're wrong, Here's where you're roll first with

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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams. All right, Rob g I'll tell you where

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Speaker 4: you're wrong. Coming up, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know what I know that Alex Monico here

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Speaker 4: to my left. Growing up in southern California, San Diego

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Speaker 4: has to appreciate pop punk music. Oh, let's go, baby

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Speaker 4: has to appreciate pop punk.

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Speaker 2: I love this song? You ever heard this before? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Love it? All right? Can you keep this playing while

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Speaker 2: you play? The Player of the day.

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Speaker 8: Jumps on the first pitch, Suns went on a ride

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Speaker 8: the center field up and gone.

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Speaker 5: Brenton Doyle stares.

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Speaker 8: At it as Bashett trucks around the bases his second

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Speaker 8: home run of the ball game. It's a three run

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Speaker 8: shot and a thirteen to one lead.

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays Radio. Hey, why did you have to do

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Speaker 4: Alex Monico En did last segment talking about the Jets.

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Speaker 4: You were saying, you know, you want to give me

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Speaker 4: a thirty second recap of your spiel of why the

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Speaker 4: Jets should be successful because of the team that were

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Speaker 4: building with Rodgers.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think why they would have been successful with Rogers?

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Speaker 2: Well, you think that team and then the team would

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Speaker 2: be successful this year? Go for Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I thought they had a lot of the infrastructure, correct.

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Speaker 5: I thought the offensive line year one with Rogers was

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Speaker 5: not buttoned up like year two where they made a

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Speaker 5: little more of a push to lock in the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: But this was it was a top three pasty coming

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Speaker 5: in from Rogers year one, but they had pieces in

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Speaker 5: place to be able to I think with a quarterback

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Speaker 5: make some noise. The problem is they haven't gotten quarterback

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Speaker 5: right since what back in the Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought they had pieces in place the Jets.

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Speaker 4: That's why they fired everybody.

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Speaker 2: Well solo.

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Speaker 5: This is the problem in our league, Martin. There's more.

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Speaker 5: The maturation of the of the head coach, obviously is

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Speaker 5: a promotion from coordinator often to head coach. Robert Salah

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Speaker 5: is an unbelievable defensive coach. He had no business being

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Speaker 5: the head coach of that particular team. I already see

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Speaker 5: shades of Aaron Glenn's leadership I didn't see in two

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Speaker 5: New York winters under Salah. And what did you say

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Speaker 5: on our show the other week when Rogers and Salah

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Speaker 5: had a chance to embrace, they pushed each other away.

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Speaker 5: Ag And there's something to say about it. Played in

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Speaker 5: this league, played in that town, in that locker room.

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Speaker 5: He knows how to coach up players. Fields hasn't had

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Speaker 5: a place where I feel he has even been properly

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Speaker 5: coached up. Now we got a shot for both things

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Speaker 5: to be in line in the same time.

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Speaker 4: We got a shot kind of the same way I

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Speaker 4: can go to the liquor store and buy a lot

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Speaker 4: of reticket. I got a shot to retire. But you know,

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Speaker 4: I think both of these things have about the same

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Speaker 4: shot of happening. Dabo Sweeney said yesterday. In twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 4: we were the first fifteen and OL team in the

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Speaker 4: history of major college football. And I think we're gonna

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Speaker 4: be the first sixteen inn o team. It's a race

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Speaker 4: to do that. I'm here to tell you, Bolt, I'm

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Speaker 4: here to tell you we have had the last undefeated

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Speaker 4: college football national champion. Wow, there will not be another.

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Speaker 4: There will not be another. We have had the last one.

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Speaker 4: It was the University of Michigan with their twenty two seniors. No, seriously,

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Speaker 4: because here's how can you be so confident, Because here's

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Speaker 4: the thing. Nobody's gonna come back like that. Nobody is

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Speaker 4: going to continue to stay at the same school. Even

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Speaker 4: last year with the Ohio State, right, how many guys

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Speaker 4: did they have that could have went pro that return

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Speaker 4: to come back to school a ton? But Michigan that

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Speaker 4: the year that Michigan did, they had nearly every single player.

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Speaker 2: Of note, you.

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Speaker 5: Don't think nil is gonna make like a quinn Ewers,

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Speaker 5: who arguably could make more in college this year if

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Speaker 5: he stayed then going to play for backup two in

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Speaker 5: Miami no, sure, quarterback, Well, that could be conducive to

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Speaker 5: running it back and running the table at sixteen and ho.

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Speaker 2: But quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But if I am a left tackle, worth the damn

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Speaker 4: I'm going to the league. But also, I think it's

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Speaker 4: you're also competing with just in terms of the college

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Speaker 4: football level, Bill Belichick. Just go to ACC and just oh,

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Speaker 4: here I go, I just popped your left tackle. Let

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Speaker 4: me get that.

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Speaker 5: So you're saying, just it's mini, it's junior NFL now,

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Speaker 5: and nobody goes on the FELD.

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Speaker 4: Nobody goes undefeated in the I guess nobody expects anybody

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Speaker 4: to go undefeated in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if you're looking at Troy Georgia Tech

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Speaker 5: Syracuse right after Brian Kelly, who can't show up for

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Speaker 5: a big game since he got to LSU, then maybe

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Speaker 5: all right, we're off to a at least first month

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Speaker 5: of winning football for the Clemson time.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think Clemson will win a ton of games.

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Speaker 4: I think they'll win the ACC. But the idea of

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Speaker 4: sixteen and oh, I don't buy it. I think that

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Speaker 4: you're gonna have to schedule in this iteration of college football,

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Speaker 4: especially where you could play Texas Ohio State week one,

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Speaker 4: and it will have zero implication on whether one of

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Speaker 4: those teams can play for a national championship. Like it'll

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Speaker 4: take multiple losses outside of that for it to happen.

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Speaker 4: You'll have to now schedule to be ready for the postseason.

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Speaker 4: You have Tennessee went to Ohio State and got molly wopped,

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Speaker 4: not only because oh I'll say, was that much better because.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee hadn't played a game above Missouri since nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 2: Tell them, do you know what I'm saying. It's like,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to schedule differently.

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Speaker 4: We've seen the last one the University of Michigan and

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Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so bullshit, it's over.

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Speaker 5: I'll do it. I'll do a gentleman's mat with your

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Speaker 5: ten years here over under nine a half years. I'll

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Speaker 5: take the over they under.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, I'm not going there will never be another.

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Speaker 5: You're just you're wearing a Michigan Jim Robbie, he's wearing

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Speaker 5: a Michigan sweater.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of I went to college longer than this guy,

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Speaker 2: barely