Speaker 1: From Los Angeles moments and one and only, famous Perez Hilton.
Speaker 1: Everybody welcomes to the PHP. That's Perez right there. My
Speaker 1: name is Booker. How do you do, sir?
Speaker 2: We are talking Taylor Swift today and other things. Don't worry,
Speaker 2: You're not going to skip over the Taylor Swift part.
Speaker 2: Even the haters will want to listen to us. But
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Speaker 1: That sounds like you're running for president. I like it.
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Speaker 2: They're the most censoring app out there.
Speaker 3: They suck.
Speaker 2: I hate them and it brings me immense joy to
Speaker 2: see their eminent failure.
Speaker 3: So fuck them. Anyways.
Speaker 2: I had a jam packed weekend in Vegas. I went
Speaker 2: to a media dinner, I host a host. I judged
Speaker 2: a comedy show which is actually super fun. It's called
Speaker 2: shock Collar Comedy. You would love this because it's kind
Speaker 2: of like a Howard Stern bit. They put dog collars
Speaker 2: on comedians and if they're not funny.
Speaker 3: I shocked them.
Speaker 1: They get wow.
Speaker 3: I'm watching them react.
Speaker 2: To be zapped was almost as funny or fun as
Speaker 2: the comedy itself.
Speaker 1: Did you feel badly doing it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I kind of loved it. You did.
Speaker 1: Wow? I don't know I would feel bad.
Speaker 2: Saturday, I went to a lounge opening, I went to
Speaker 2: a pool party Live Beach, and then Sunday I met
Speaker 2: up with an eighties pop icon.
Speaker 1: I think we're alone now, Tiffany.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I love Vegas. I did so much in one weekend.
Speaker 2: It makes me so happy. I'm in my zone. Finally,
Speaker 2: I'm in the groove.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: How was your weekend? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I did anything at all.
Speaker 1: So we talked on Friday, Taylor Shift. I didn't go
Speaker 1: out Friday night. I don't believe so. No, I haven't
Speaker 1: done anything. No, I'm all good. I just hung out
Speaker 1: this weekend and cooked and chilled all right.
Speaker 2: Well, before we get to Taylor Swift, I said, we
Speaker 2: are talking about other things. So I was paying attention.
Speaker 2: But the only thing that came across my radar from
Speaker 2: Coachella Weekend two was Lanazel Ray bringing out Camilla Aveo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was there anything else of note?
Speaker 1: There was just more no doubt footage that I saw,
Speaker 1: and outside of that really nothing.
Speaker 3: Did they bring out a special guest, No, that's lame.
Speaker 2: They brought out Olivia Rodrigo weekend win and nobody weekend too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think anybody came out weekend to But
Speaker 1: I didn't hear of anybody coming out, I mean neither.
Speaker 2: I did see video of Kid Cuddy jumping off stage
Speaker 2: at Coachella, and oh I saw that breaking his foot.
Speaker 1: You looked at this guy and you're like, this guy
Speaker 1: is not coordinated. This is not a Travis Scott about
Speaker 1: to take the jump. This is not someone that you
Speaker 1: know looks like they've got some athletic ability. You looked
Speaker 1: at this guy and you're like, he's gonna break his head.
Speaker 2: Or this one video that went viral last night of
Speaker 2: Luke Bryan slipping on stage.
Speaker 3: Did you see that?
Speaker 2: No missed that pretty funny. He was walking slow, slipped
Speaker 2: and totally fell. Handles it very well. All Right, I
Speaker 2: just need to take a moment to say a little
Speaker 2: prayer of gratitude that I am still on the Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift pr list. I got a lovely care package from
Speaker 2: Team Taylor. I'm sure by this point she has absolutely
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it. There's enough people on that
Speaker 2: pr list that she's not signing off on it every time.
Speaker 2: I'm like ninety five percent certain it's her lovely publicist,
Speaker 2: Tree Pain, or maybe people on her management, or maybe
Speaker 2: she is that hands on. I mean, I still don't
Speaker 2: know how she finds the time to do everything, But
Speaker 2: she finds the time to do everything. She's touring, she's
Speaker 2: recording music, she's rerecording her old music, she's directing and
Speaker 2: coming up with the music video, doing it fucking all,
Speaker 2: and I'm very thankful for it. And I want to
Speaker 2: reiterate something, okay, because people hear what they want to hear.
Speaker 2: From the very beginning. When we discussed the new album
Speaker 2: on our Patreon with this like emergency episode, I said,
Speaker 2: straight off the bat, I liked it. I never said
Speaker 2: I disliked it. My exact words were, I wasn't disappointed,
Speaker 2: but I was underwhelmed. And then I gave specific reasons why.
Speaker 1: And he was pretty fair and balanced because our comments
Speaker 1: and if you didn't get the Patreon were kind of
Speaker 1: in step. There wasn't a lot that we disagreed on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't care for the production on a lot
Speaker 2: of the songs agreed. My favorite songs were the ones
Speaker 2: where the production was spicy, the ones they were different.
Speaker 1: Well, the non Anthonov songs. When I looked into you
Speaker 1: know who did what I do, tend to lean towards
Speaker 1: the ones that Jack didn't do.
Speaker 2: And you know the ones that he did all. I
Speaker 2: don't want to say they all sound the same.
Speaker 1: But they all sound the same. It's the same tone
Speaker 1: and energy and the formula starting to become a little played.
Speaker 2: But my biggest note was it's thirty one songs long.
Speaker 2: There are some great spectacular songs on there, and then
Speaker 2: there are some songs that are good.
Speaker 1: That's where we disagree because I don't think there's any.
Speaker 3: Spectacular Oh I think so.
Speaker 1: I think there's some spectacular moments in songwriting, but when
Speaker 1: you pair it with the production and the fact that
Speaker 1: they sound like everything else. Look, if you want to
Speaker 1: pick the best twelve and put it out, I still
Speaker 1: don't know if I would say this is better than
Speaker 1: any Taylor Swift album she's ever put out.
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't say that either.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all I'm saying. So when you're at this
Speaker 1: point in your career, you need to be getting at
Speaker 1: least better, you know what I mean, Like you should go, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not better than reputation, it's not better than evermore.
Speaker 1: It's it's not. And so I'm like, where does it
Speaker 1: land when it comes to how good an album is.
Speaker 1: If you're going to really compare her to her earliest,
Speaker 1: earliest works, then okay, maybe, but I kind of like
Speaker 1: those better. I mean, the pureness and the joy of
Speaker 1: being young is so captured in that very first record,
Speaker 1: and even on Red It's just it's hard to say
Speaker 1: anything's better than those emotions that I feel or that
Speaker 1: I relate to when I listen to it. So I'm
Speaker 1: forced to say this is her worst album.
Speaker 3: I know, Oh no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Then what's her worst album for me?
Speaker 2: And in one album of the year it's this just
Speaker 2: goes to remind everybody art music it's all subjective, it's
Speaker 2: personal preference. I prefer this over folklore any day of
Speaker 2: the week.
Speaker 1: Say not me. And I even like love her better.
Speaker 3: Oh I love lover.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the fact that it's too much. If you
Speaker 1: just want to gave me twelve songs, yeah, then maybe
Speaker 1: I could feel it differently, And maybe I'll feel differently
Speaker 1: in like two years, when I have enough time to
Speaker 1: digest that amount of life.
Speaker 3: I do feel differently. Here's how I feel.
Speaker 2: Because we spoke Friday morning, and I obsessively listened to
Speaker 2: all thirty one songs. I'm as like fucking committed. I
Speaker 2: am committed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I listened all weekend as well.
Speaker 2: I am not skipping a single song anytime it comes on.
Speaker 2: So Thursday night, Friday, Saturday, and all Sunday, all of
Speaker 2: those days, I listen and listen and listen. And what
Speaker 2: happened was the songs that I initially instantly liked, I
Speaker 2: fucking loved, and then the songs that I'm like, uh,
Speaker 2: I felt the same exact way over. I'm like, eventually
Speaker 2: I'll start just skipping these and just listen to the
Speaker 2: ones that I love, because there are a lot that
Speaker 2: I love, and then there are some that I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 2: those are good, but they're not great.
Speaker 1: I would say that for my ear. I like the
Speaker 1: London going back whatever. That London song.
Speaker 3: Is good by London or so Long London.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good. And that one down Bad is
Speaker 1: what I I like, Down Bad, very good song. I
Speaker 1: like that that gets in you. That's good, So.
Speaker 2: Long London I like. My absolute favorites are Florida with
Speaker 2: Florence and the Machine.
Speaker 1: Don't like that at all?
Speaker 3: You don't, Oh, I love it now.
Speaker 1: I hope that warms up on me.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Amy.
Speaker 2: I love Love of My Life, which reminds me of
Speaker 2: white Horse, and I like but Daddy, I love him.
Speaker 1: That's good. See, that's more of what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Like a universal kind of feel of anyone could kind
Speaker 1: of relate to that song. I like those kind of songs.
Speaker 1: I don't like distracks and sitting there going well, this
Speaker 1: is about that guy.
Speaker 2: And I like so many of them. I don't dislike
Speaker 2: any of them. It's weird, you know, like even Fortnite.
Speaker 2: I really like Fortnite, but to me, Fortnite was like,
Speaker 2: it's like a third single or a second single.
Speaker 1: That's not a single to me, There's no way that
Speaker 1: should be a single. That's just not a great song.
Speaker 3: Not the lead single to me.
Speaker 2: But just to reiterate what I said a minute ago,
Speaker 2: music is subjective, and it's so upsetting to me to
Speaker 2: see people that if you express an opinion about Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift that is I don't love it.
Speaker 3: There are those Swifties. If you don't love every single
Speaker 3: fucking thing, oh, I know you're you're either dumb or
Speaker 3: you have bad takes.
Speaker 1: These are trumpers. I mean, they're not the same people.
Speaker 1: They're actually opposed politically, but they have the same mindset
Speaker 1: when you're talking about a hardcore Swifty. But that's not
Speaker 1: entirely true, Perez, because I mean, if you look, we
Speaker 1: have a message board on our Patreon if you don't
Speaker 1: subscribe to that. But like, I was just writing a comment.
Speaker 1: This girl was saying that she went to a party
Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift the Dead Poet Society, whatever fucking listening party,
Speaker 1: and she said they didn't even finish it. They were bored.
Speaker 1: And when you go to a party for an album,
Speaker 1: that says to me, you're a Swiftie. And I have
Speaker 1: seen some comments from other, you know, quote Swifties that
Speaker 1: have said things like, well, good, I'm glad that a
Speaker 1: lot of Swifties don't like this record because maybe it'll
Speaker 1: be a cheaper ticket. No, And I'm like, that boat's
Speaker 1: fucking sailed, honey. I mean, that's a weird r no way.
Speaker 1: But it's like Rolling Stone if you would have watched
Speaker 1: their social media on Friday. I have never seen a
Speaker 1: publication slabber over one person in more posts in my
Speaker 1: entire life. Now that prez will just go ahead and say, hey,
Speaker 1: that's good business. You're there to get clicks. Hell, I
Speaker 1: can't disagree with that, but the incessant slabbering over something
Speaker 1: that's just what it is is a little much for me.
Speaker 1: And then to take it one step further, you get
Speaker 1: the guy that reviews the album who calls it like
Speaker 1: the greatest fucking album of all time or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then pictures come out of him backstage kissing on Taylor
Speaker 1: and hugging one another. You're like, Wow, you're real subjective.
Speaker 1: But you have other publications that are like they won't
Speaker 1: even put the name of their music reviewer because they
Speaker 1: don't want the throngs of Army members taking a shit
Speaker 1: on them.
Speaker 2: I think Rolling Stone called it an instant classic, and
Speaker 2: I would let's sa yeah, I would not agree with
Speaker 2: that assessment. It's not one of my top three or
Speaker 2: top five favorite Taylor Swift albums.
Speaker 3: She's released a bunch of albums.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the thing is it just is what it is. Look,
Speaker 1: she's a reality show. She's a reality show without a channel.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, not only is she a Kardashian,
Speaker 1: she's talking about the Kardashians and putting their name in
Speaker 1: one of her songs. That's what this is. This is
Speaker 1: someone that's invested in the plot lines and the storylines
Speaker 1: of the evil record Company guy and Jake gillen holland
Speaker 1: John Mayer and all these other fucking guys that she's
Speaker 1: left on the side of the road in the carnage.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what this is for. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that like that, that are so invested in that.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's a genius move. But don't sit
Speaker 1: me down and tell me it's great music, because musically
Speaker 1: it's not as great as fucking Cruel Summer is.
Speaker 3: A great song.
Speaker 1: Okay, Like we've mentioned the millions of the myriads of
Speaker 1: fucking great Taylor Swift songs. None of these songs I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to put in that pile yet, you know,
Speaker 1: let's say get into me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two things first, I texted Booker this over the weekend,
Speaker 2: and listening every time I went to sit down while
Speaker 2: I was working, just I'm ocds, It's like I've got
Speaker 2: to listen to the entire album.
Speaker 3: So it just felt like a chore.
Speaker 2: It felt like work having to get through these thirty
Speaker 2: one songs every time, and that, to me, does a
Speaker 2: disservice to the songs, to the music, right, And I
Speaker 2: feel like it was a business decision while she released
Speaker 2: all of that music, and not an artistic decision.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 1: He pointed this out to me, And this is important
Speaker 1: because We talked about this on the Patriot because I
Speaker 1: didn't think of it this way, but you're one hundred
Speaker 1: percent right. He gave a rap on the numbers.
Speaker 2: The more songs, the more streams, and that's how music
Speaker 2: is consumed and tabulated for the charts now. Plus also
Speaker 2: like if somebody bought the vinyl and.
Speaker 3: They're a hardcore Swifty and there are a lot of.
Speaker 2: Them, they're going to buy now this new one with
Speaker 2: both versions, or you know, the double album, or.
Speaker 1: Which has weighted much heavier than an actual stream. The
Speaker 1: whole math is different. You know, when we were kids,
Speaker 1: when I went out and bought Purple Rain, well that
Speaker 1: was one copy. It didn't matter if I listened to
Speaker 1: Purple Rain four billion, seven thousand times, which I did,
Speaker 1: it didn't count that way. Today it does. One Swifty
Speaker 1: could sit there and go, well, I played the fucking
Speaker 1: whole album the entire weekend long, and it counts against
Speaker 1: that number. So it pays to have a lot of fans,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't make a chart anywhere near accurate anymore.
Speaker 1: That's just out the fucking window.
Speaker 2: But listen, I really do really like the album. It's
Speaker 2: not one of my favorites. I don't think it's bad.
Speaker 2: And one of the reasons why, almost twenty years into
Speaker 2: her career, Taylor Swift is not only on top, but
Speaker 2: bigger than ever before is Obviously she's incredibly talented, but
Speaker 2: she's also exceptionally smart, such a great business person. This
Speaker 2: album is what it is, and the next one, I
Speaker 2: know it's going to be full of bops.
Speaker 1: It's not like she's forgotten how to make them sleep.
Speaker 2: And I think she got the note that we are
Speaker 2: over Jack Antonov. Talented guy. We appreciate him. They've done
Speaker 2: a ton of collaborating together, but we want a Max
Speaker 2: Martin type and listen, it's not going to happen with
Speaker 2: Max Martin.
Speaker 3: Allegedly, here's the tea. They had a falling out.
Speaker 2: Allegedly, the rumor is she was unhappy that he wouldn't
Speaker 2: give her producer credit on songs and that he was
Speaker 2: demanding songwriting credit on songs that he didn't write, you
Speaker 2: know shit that some big producers do. But if it's
Speaker 2: not him, but just somebody else, some fresh blood, something
Speaker 2: exciting and difference, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think the whole you know, relationship with
Speaker 1: Jack and Matty Healy as well. I mean, he's pretty deep,
Speaker 1: isn't he on Dirty Hit now as well?
Speaker 3: Like that's Dirty Hit, that's the.
Speaker 1: Record imprint of the nineteen seventy.
Speaker 3: Five Jack ansonov Is.
Speaker 1: It's the same people. I can just tell you that.
Speaker 2: Well, very exciting for those that enjoy the new album,
Speaker 2: and I am one of those people. Taylor is going
Speaker 2: to be adding some of the songs, or at least
Speaker 2: one of the songs to the Eras tour. She tweeted
Speaker 2: about practice and actually I think more than one. She
Speaker 2: and a band's member tweeted about practicing the new songs.
Speaker 2: So I'm guessing we'll get at least two songs, if
Speaker 2: not more.
Speaker 1: And that's a really good and smart move because they've
Speaker 1: released this on TV where you can go and watch
Speaker 1: the tour, and I have. I finally sat down and
Speaker 1: watched the whole thing. I tried to. It was too long,
Speaker 1: but I think it's good because you know, you got
Speaker 1: people like in Indianapolis. They're probably feeling ripped off, like
Speaker 1: we paid three thousand dollars for these fucking tickets so
Speaker 1: we can go see it, you know, on Disney Plus
Speaker 1: for for whatever my subscription fee is. Now, they're getting
Speaker 1: something that nobody else has gotten before. They're gonna get
Speaker 1: these songs, so that's a great move.
Speaker 2: I do want to talk a little bit in detail
Speaker 2: about the thank You Amy song, which we kind of
Speaker 2: glossed over on the Patreon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we never did get to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I talked about it, but we didn't go into
Speaker 2: detail on it. And it's one of my top three
Speaker 2: songs off the album.
Speaker 1: I don't get it at all.
Speaker 3: I love the production.
Speaker 2: I'm a swift ye from day fucking one, and the
Speaker 2: fact that it makes it tickles me for many, many,
Speaker 2: many many like for a fucking decade plus of her career,
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift wouldn't even curse on a song, and now
Speaker 2: this song is saying fuck you Amy. I just know
Speaker 2: all my og girlies and I when when we're gonna
Speaker 2: see this in concert live, we are gonna scream fuck
Speaker 2: you Amy. It's just like I said, this is a
Speaker 2: song that's meant to be done live. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: a staple of her live cat and I just love
Speaker 2: the production. It's kind of got like a little Calypso
Speaker 2: meets country.
Speaker 3: It's like it's just meets pop. I love the production.
Speaker 3: I like the lyrics. I love it.
Speaker 2: But she would not curse. She wouldn't even drink. Now
Speaker 2: she talks about cursing. She talks about drinking all the time.
Speaker 2: She called herself a functioning alcoholic. She talks about drugs
Speaker 2: so much on this album. She talks about sex so
Speaker 2: much on this album.
Speaker 3: She is a woman.
Speaker 2: The evolution has really been beautiful and fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1: Well, you've criticized many artists for doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: She's not glamorizing drugs.
Speaker 1: I just think that that's really alienating the lower end.
Speaker 1: I think the young end. She's finally punting on going
Speaker 1: after them and chasing them with met Me and all
Speaker 1: those terrible songs.
Speaker 2: There is one thing that she gets criticized for a
Speaker 2: lot some of the haters bring up, and after digesting
Speaker 2: intensely this new album, I'm like, I could really I
Speaker 2: see that. You know, a lot of people say she
Speaker 2: likes to play the victim over and over again, and
Speaker 2: this album does not help that narrative. She paints herself
Speaker 2: as the victim.
Speaker 1: But it's what I said, it's just a reality show.
Speaker 1: It's like, as long as you don't ever come out
Speaker 1: and say this was about that person. You can get
Speaker 1: away with it. Some people could even say she's bullying
Speaker 1: some of these people, and she'll say, why, this is
Speaker 1: just in my imagination. These are characters that I've made up,
Speaker 1: like in Betty or something. I'm colin bullshit.
Speaker 2: I mean, she was so specific about the Matti Heally songs,
Speaker 2: like you know that about Matti Heally.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And you're listening though, and you're listening to this whole home,
Speaker 1: You're like, you know this one. There's like Travis Kelcey references,
Speaker 1: there's references to Joe, there's references to Maddie. Like everyone
Speaker 1: is picking out which one is about whom. And that's
Speaker 1: what I dislike. I don't fucking care who your song's about.
Speaker 1: How does it make me feel when I listen to
Speaker 1: the vibe of the song. That's my criticism and it
Speaker 1: will continue to be my criticism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said that on the Patreon. I'm like, play
Speaker 2: these songs to somebody who has no idea about her
Speaker 2: private life, and.
Speaker 3: Do they hold up A couple of them did? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Kim song, though she literally spelled out k I
Speaker 2: Am the way she spelled out the title Thank You
Speaker 2: Amy so we know it's about Kim.
Speaker 3: And you know, when I.
Speaker 2: Was listening to the to the album on Thursday night,
Speaker 2: tired as fuck because it was two hours and two
Speaker 2: minutes of music, some of the lyrics, you know, went
Speaker 2: over my head. But there's this one lyric in that
Speaker 2: Thank You Amy song that I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 2: It's giving major mean girl vibes and it's a low
Speaker 2: fucking blow.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Last year, I think there was at one point Kim
Speaker 2: and Kanye's oldest child, their daughter, Northwest, did a silly
Speaker 2: TikTok video set to the music of Taylor Swift, and
Speaker 2: Kim was in the video with her. And there's a
Speaker 2: lyric in this Thank You Amy song about Kim Kardashian,
Speaker 2: you know, fuck you and calling her a bully. The
Speaker 2: lyrics says, and one day your kid comes home singing
Speaker 2: a song that only us two is gonna know is
Speaker 2: about you. Keep her fucking kid out of it, Taylor.
Speaker 2: And I say that as a huge Taylor fan. I
Speaker 2: love her, I think she's family, but leave her like
Speaker 2: that was gross. That line was gross.
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned it last show. I don't like
Speaker 1: any of this dragging anyone else into this, but that's
Speaker 1: when it crosses the line of make believe and everything
Speaker 1: I just said in fairytale and it could be anybody too.
Speaker 1: This is very specific and I don't like that, but
Speaker 1: I get that people do. But it's back to what
Speaker 1: I keep saying about it being a reality show. That's
Speaker 1: what this is, and it's a very good reality show.
Speaker 1: I'm just not a huge fan of reality TV, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not, and that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1: But I'm a huge fan of her. I just can't
Speaker 1: wait till her gets back to doing the things that
Speaker 1: I like that she does.
Speaker 2: She even name dropped Charlie Pooth in one of the
Speaker 2: Matty Healy songs, saying that they talked about how they
Speaker 2: both think Charlie Pooth should be bigger.
Speaker 1: By the way, we've talked about that on this podcast before,
Speaker 1: how talented it is. He is an insanely gifted he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, how do you think he will view that
Speaker 2: coming from Taylor Swift like it's both a compliment and
Speaker 2: a diss.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a backhanded compliment, but I don't think it.
Speaker 1: I know it's not a dis I think it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of fact. When I say it to you,
Speaker 1: I'm not dissing Charlie Pooth. Yeah, your tone sometimes has
Speaker 1: been like, well, he hasn't really had it. He hits,
Speaker 1: and you're right, but it's like hits don't mean a lot. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many hits are on this Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift record. It's still a juggernaut. Charlie Pooth is just
Speaker 1: an insanely talented person, and I believe that Maddie realizes
Speaker 1: that and Taylor. You know, people who know music and
Speaker 1: know how to make music, they can identify other people
Speaker 1: that know how to make music. And I mean, even
Speaker 1: pull back the lens just to the nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 1: They're not huge in America. I mean, they sell out
Speaker 1: big venues, but they're huge with their fan base. It's
Speaker 1: not like you could play chocolate to anybody and they'd
Speaker 1: know it. They just wouldn't, so it's all perspective.
Speaker 2: The music video for Fortnite was real least, and she
Speaker 2: totally pandered to older people like myself by having the
Speaker 2: cast of Dead Poet Society.
Speaker 3: On the music video. And I like being pandered too.
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 1: I liked this well Kellen had said, she goes, I
Speaker 1: don't think any of our fans have any idea who
Speaker 1: those people are, but I was like, you might be right.
Speaker 3: I loved the music video.
Speaker 2: It was beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, and like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I want both Malone to get rid of all his
Speaker 2: face tattoos. He looks so handsome without all the face
Speaker 2: get rid of the face tattoos.
Speaker 1: Please. The whole video just made me miss Robin Williams.
Speaker 1: I mean, the most maybe gifted person of our generation
Speaker 1: was Robin Williams. So that him and like a Robert
Speaker 1: Downey junior and Meryl Streep and just completely special people,
Speaker 1: and seeing that video just made me think of him.
Speaker 1: That he wasn't even in it.
Speaker 2: Very last tailor thing, I promise. Okay, my last question,
Speaker 2: what do you think Travis makes of all of this?
Speaker 1: That's a very good question. And you know she made
Speaker 1: a point two before everything came out that the whole
Speaker 1: you know, this era is dead, We're closing the book
Speaker 1: on all of this. So I think she probably couched
Speaker 1: everything to him with that, like this is part of
Speaker 1: that era, and it's part of the creative process, and
Speaker 1: let's be honest. This guy's having the time of his
Speaker 1: fucking life with Taylor Swift. Okay, this guy rocking the
Speaker 1: boat for shit. He's like, whatever, honey, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to do. I'm gonna go play Nintendo or fucking Xbox.
Speaker 1: Whatever she says on the fucking album about him. You know,
Speaker 1: she makes him sound like a bro on the album.
Speaker 2: Not even that, it's almost like a diss It's like right,
Speaker 2: like they're back in fucking high school, Like she makes
Speaker 2: her feel like a high schooleror like you're so sophomoreic
Speaker 2: you're in fucking high school.
Speaker 1: He's on the football team, she's in the band. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's exactly it's you were fucking meant for me or whatever.
Speaker 1: That song.
Speaker 3: I love that song. That's my favorite Taylor Swift song
Speaker 3: of all time. You belong with Me.
Speaker 1: That's my point about capturing youth. That song just captures
Speaker 1: youth and can never be replicated. It's why I didn't
Speaker 1: like the whole albums being rerecorded anyhow. You're never gonna
Speaker 1: replicate that feeling in my heart, no way.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on some good news with Scott Dissick.
Speaker 2: According to reports, he is done with his ozembic era
Speaker 2: he realized he went too far and he is.
Speaker 3: Over it good.
Speaker 1: They say you gained the weight back once you get
Speaker 1: off of it.
Speaker 2: Well he's They allegedly he's going to work with a
Speaker 2: nutritionists so he doesn't gain the weight back.
Speaker 1: I'm all right, Well, hopefully he gained some back because
Speaker 1: he looks so crazy thin.
Speaker 2: I was literally talking to a friend about ozempic last
Speaker 2: night and I was like, if it allowed me to
Speaker 2: eat all that I wanted and not gain weight, I
Speaker 2: would fucking take ozempic. But that's not how it works.
Speaker 2: It just it makes you lose your appetite. I don't
Speaker 2: want if I can lose my appetite. I want a miracle
Speaker 2: drug that will let me eat all I want and
Speaker 2: not gain weight.
Speaker 3: Why does that not exist?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming, baby, yet exactly the minute.
Speaker 2: That shit is on the market, I will be all
Speaker 2: over that because I have bucket.
Speaker 3: I still love to eat, all right.
Speaker 2: Winona Judd, her daughter very Sad, has struggled with substance
Speaker 2: abuse and the law for many years now. She was
Speaker 2: recently arrested and charged with multiple offenses, including in decent exposure, soliciting, prostitution,
Speaker 2: obstruction of public officers, and she has been sitting in
Speaker 2: the county jail for over two weeks because she could
Speaker 2: not pay her bond of twenty five hundred dollars. And
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of people say, wow, that's great,
Speaker 2: good on Winona, tough love. Yeah, I'm not one of
Speaker 2: those people.
Speaker 1: Well, Perez, you've got to let people hit rock bod.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: This is a pattern. This isn't the first time she's
Speaker 1: done it one through ten times. That's what you have
Speaker 1: to call time out.
Speaker 2: She already had a major time out. Winona's daughter was
Speaker 2: arrested in twenty sixteen on way more serious charges.
Speaker 1: So now that it's lesser, she should fucking write it.
Speaker 1: Check the letter out.
Speaker 3: No, let me explain.
Speaker 2: She was previously arrested for meth possession and meth manufacturing
Speaker 2: and meth selling. Crazy and she's still only in her
Speaker 2: mid twenties. She's twenty seven years old.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: She had previously served not even time in jail, time
Speaker 2: in prison. I don't know the exact time, but I
Speaker 2: think it was over a year. So what I'm getting
Speaker 2: at is over a year in prison did not straighten
Speaker 2: this young woman out. Sitting in the County jail is
Speaker 2: not going to help her. She already spent over a
Speaker 2: year in prison.
Speaker 1: Okay, well she's got to continue to rake the bottom
Speaker 1: and say, do I really want to be there? I mean,
Speaker 1: once again, what is she supposed to do? Write a
Speaker 1: check every time that she gets in trouble. This girl,
Speaker 1: you know how the movie's gonna end. Either she gets
Speaker 1: her shit together or the fucking grim Reaper will find her.
Speaker 1: And that's when you're a parent, you at least know,
Speaker 1: at least I know where my fucking kid is tonight.
Speaker 1: Not out selling drugs, not out making drugs, not out hooking,
Speaker 1: not out doing any of that. That fucking kid is
Speaker 1: in a fucking can somewhere. Someone's got an eye on her.
Speaker 1: If I'm a parent, I think I'm relieved. Bro.
Speaker 3: I would have bailed her out on.
Speaker 2: The condition, boy, condition that she agrees to go to
Speaker 2: like a six month treatment facility. Yeah, I mean, actually
Speaker 2: maybe maybe we know what it did offer that And
Speaker 2: the daughter said no.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the kid's already done treatment. Only one person
Speaker 1: could decide, and it's that person. There's no like if
Speaker 1: sort of I'm one hundred percent of the nota side.
Speaker 2: Speaking of family issues Happy birthday.
Speaker 3: To Surrey Cruse.
Speaker 2: She turns eighteen or she might have just turned eighteen
Speaker 2: years old, either within the last few days or it's
Speaker 2: coming up. But eighteen years old Surrey Cruse, and according
Speaker 2: to reports, her father is still not involved in her
Speaker 2: life life at all because of Scientology. He chose scientology
Speaker 2: over his.
Speaker 1: Child now according to reports.
Speaker 2: According to scientologists as well, he's an awful father. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I said that, Your a shit dad, if that's what
Speaker 2: you're doing, Tom Cruise. Speaking of Scientology, according to reports,
Speaker 2: the next season of Real Housewives of New York has
Speaker 2: cast Rebecca Minkoff, this fashion designer who's also a major scientologist.
Speaker 2: She donates millions of dollars to them. I would not
Speaker 2: be watching if I was a watcher, But you can
Speaker 2: do you. I can't support scientology.
Speaker 3: I can't. Sorry. Also, speaking of Real Housewives.
Speaker 2: Of New York, Bethany Frankel announced the death of her
Speaker 2: mother to cancer over the weekend, and in true Bethany
Speaker 2: Frankel fashion was very, very very honest about her relationship
Speaker 2: with her mother. I don't really have an opinion because
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what went down. She hinted at it.
Speaker 2: It must have been real bad. She says, I was
Speaker 2: an adult long before Brin's age, her own daughter, experiencing
Speaker 2: things no young child should endure. I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: that is in relation.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, well, I don't know. I think parenting today
Speaker 1: versus parenting yesterday is a lot different. It's hard to
Speaker 1: compare the two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just an eye opening. The tribute she
Speaker 2: wrote also passed away. Very sad. This former American Idol contestant,
Speaker 2: Mandisa just forty seven years old.
Speaker 3: She died. We don't have a.
Speaker 2: Cause of death yet, just people speculating because she had
Speaker 2: previously talked about suffering depression. And that guy who set
Speaker 2: himself on fire outside of the Trump trial, he ended
Speaker 2: up dying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he caught himself on fire. And it wasn't like
Speaker 1: a little flame on the end of his finger. I
Speaker 1: mean the guy was fully engulfed in flames. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: Thank god he died, because you do not want to
Speaker 2: live if you've recovered after that crazy. I can't stop
Speaker 2: thinking about conspiracy theorists though, and some sane people do
Speaker 2: become conspiracy theorists. But I would like to think that
Speaker 2: person just suffered from mental illness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go there. Anybody that catches themselves on fire
Speaker 1: is mentally ill.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Singer Brian McKnight has disowned four of his children with
Speaker 2: different baby mamas, who he claims were the product of sin.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you're the one who fucking sins? Right the fuck?
Speaker 2: Why are the kids being punished for something you did?
Speaker 1: I don't know. That seems like there's more to that start.
Speaker 2: Well, he was complaining about how they were raised by
Speaker 2: their mothers, and La la la Gypsy Rose Blanchard continues
Speaker 2: her makeover. She recently had a nose job. Now she
Speaker 2: got a smile makeover as well. You know, she had
Speaker 2: all of those silver that silver in her mouth, Now
Speaker 2: they're natural colored.
Speaker 3: What's filling her fillings?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she just changed out our fillings.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're fillings.
Speaker 2: Some of them might have just been like fake teeth
Speaker 2: that were silver, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because you know, growing up in the eighties,
Speaker 1: all the fillings were like silver. I had to get
Speaker 1: all mind taken out and changed to enamel or whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck they put in there, ceramic, whatever, pottery, who
Speaker 1: fucking knows what it is. But yeah, I had to
Speaker 1: do the same thing for.
Speaker 3: All five of you that care.
Speaker 2: Larza Pippen and Michael Jordan's son are back together yet again.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, congrats to them. Also, because the Patreon
Speaker 2: supporter asked, Pink is suing Pharrell because Farrell is trying
Speaker 2: to trademark this name, this brand called pt I n.
Speaker 3: C p inc Right.
Speaker 2: I don't know who said I'm on their Pink spells
Speaker 2: her name professionally, p exclamation mark n K. Pharrell wants
Speaker 2: p period I n C.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like a loss for pink to I mean,
Speaker 1: isn't there the clothing brand pink? I feel like for
Speaker 1: quite a few years it said pink on a lot
Speaker 1: of chick sasses.
Speaker 3: That was Victoria's secret.
Speaker 1: Okay, Victoria's secret pink.
Speaker 3: But you're right they did. They did.
Speaker 1: Do you think I forget color on an ass? I
Speaker 1: did not.
Speaker 3: Victoria's secret was very popular.
Speaker 1: It said fucking orange. I to remember that a.
Speaker 2: While before we do our last topic, a thank you
Speaker 2: to some new Patreon subscribers. We got a bunch who
Speaker 2: were signed up to hear our Taylor Swift Show. Thank
Speaker 2: you to all of you Patreon dot com slash Perez
Speaker 2: Hilton if you're not signed up yet, please do. We
Speaker 2: love your support and you never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: So thank you to Shanaiah Galloway, Jessica Trio, Marina d
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Speaker 2: entire year, Foxy Pipes who also signed up for the
Speaker 2: entire year, Jamie Whitman, Jules Vanessa Garcia, and that's everybody.
Speaker 1: By the way, Perez said something like the Taylor Swift Show,
Speaker 1: we didn't even count that as a regular show. And
Speaker 1: that's just pres and I went on and we were like, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is the biggest thing happening, Let's go on and
Speaker 1: talk about it. That's one of the cool perks of Patreon.
Speaker 1: We do that. We can do that, all right.
Speaker 2: Finally, Paris Hilton debuted for the first time photos of
Speaker 2: her daughter London and very strategically did it to.
Speaker 3: Promote this new song that she released. I liked that.
Speaker 2: Clever marketing and actually fucking Sea put Paris Hilton on
Speaker 2: a song really odd. She doesn't sound good, but she
Speaker 2: doesn't sound bad either.
Speaker 1: You know what. And Vampire Weekend Weekend one had Paris
Speaker 1: Hilton on their set, which you want to talk about
Speaker 1: left field like Vampire Weekend and Paris Hilton, Like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? I know?
Speaker 2: I actually told a friend of mine who works at
Speaker 2: a magazine, I don't want to say which one is, like,
Speaker 2: you should put her on the cover and really analyze
Speaker 2: this rebranding of Paris Hilton because it's clearly been strategic
Speaker 2: and effective. Yeah, and I'm glad. I don't believe, like, listen,
Speaker 2: in the past, she said and did horrible things, racist things,
Speaker 2: homophobic things, and that's okay. And I'm a big gay, Okay.
Speaker 2: I believe that you can say and do dumb and
Speaker 2: hurtful things when you're young and you should not be
Speaker 2: punished for that for your entire life. Okay, So it's okay,
Speaker 2: all right, let's take a call or two.
Speaker 4: Hi. This is Jillian. I'm calling from New York. I'm
Speaker 4: actually listening to the latest episode right now, and I
Speaker 4: am like appalled at how angry Perez goat when a
Speaker 4: booker basically said, Look, I'm an adult and I don't
Speaker 4: care about all that bullshit.
Speaker 3: What is she talking about?
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift?
Speaker 3: Oh? Really?
Speaker 1: The like, let's continue. I think she clarifies, let's just here.
Speaker 4: Okay, you act like you know you're nine years old
Speaker 4: and like they're telling you that Santa Claus isn't real
Speaker 4: for people who listen to the music because they don't
Speaker 4: want to see all of that bullshit. So relax forres.
Speaker 4: I'm sure she'll send you tickets the next time she's
Speaker 4: in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Ye, I love New York.
Speaker 3: A little attitude.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's because I was talking about Remember,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my favorite color is fucking red
Speaker 1: and the number thirteen and I'm like, it's just a
Speaker 1: little juvenile at times, and you were kind of saying
Speaker 1: it wasn't. And I think that's what she's talking about. Okay,
Speaker 1: the codes and but people are into it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I don't care, it's just to me,
Speaker 1: it just comes back to songs, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm just a fan of songs and I'm hearing a
Speaker 1: lot of them.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, this is Katie from Chicago. I was listening
Speaker 4: to your Patreon on the Taylor Swift album and I
Speaker 4: guess I'm just kind of calling to echo, but wanted
Speaker 4: to say, Perez, awesome, awesome point about her working hard
Speaker 4: on the lyrics and not paying as much attention to
Speaker 4: the melodies, because the lyrics are amazing, but we all know.
Speaker 1: She can write.
Speaker 4: It's great, like you said, a diary, but at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, it all starts to sound the same,
Speaker 4: like she should have put out a poetry poem down
Speaker 4: there and then either like made a poem book.
Speaker 3: Ye I just said that.
Speaker 4: You know people would eat that up, make a poem book,
Speaker 4: or release the other songs in like six months and
Speaker 4: pretend it's a brand new era, whatever the hell it is.
Speaker 4: I think thirty one songs is way too much, even
Speaker 4: for myself. I really do enjoy her and find her interesting,
Speaker 4: but it's way too overwhelming. You have that many songs
Speaker 4: at once, like you guys said, I love you guys.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you everybody, Patreon dot com, slash Perez Hilton,
Speaker 2: and we'll see some of you on Thursday for our
Speaker 2: show there.
Speaker 3: If not, we.
Speaker 2: Appretiate, respect, love, and celebrate all of you.
Speaker 3: Have a wonderful week.
Speaker 1: Take care, everybody. Goodbye,