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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura.

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Speaker 1: That was actually not met first. It was peeking. I'm like, nope,

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Speaker 1: It was a bit of a hot Mike. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'll ever been changed. Are you talking? I

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Speaker 1: can't hear anything Boots, like two years, dad, Dad, I

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Speaker 1: need some dun clothes on stock X. What huh? I

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Speaker 1: can't hear you what? By the way, Bryce speak up

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Speaker 1: sneakers real quick. Bryce got first we would did a

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Speaker 1: little sneaker shop in the day. He got some Greek

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Speaker 1: talked about having some issues and you know my slip

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Speaker 1: I had to um. The blonde wanted NBC to have

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Speaker 1: something that was black that he could slip on. That

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Speaker 1: was easy. So I picked up a pair of Epic Reacts,

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Speaker 1: which and he was like, I don't think he understands

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Speaker 1: like that they're cool because they're like they were out

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Speaker 1: like four years ago. Um. I'm like, I'm telling you, dude,

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Speaker 1: like this is like an ultra Boost, Like this will

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Speaker 1: in various color ways, in various iterations Jordan's you can

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Speaker 1: do the same thing with dunk loose. But if you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the most comfortable shoe you can wear, it's

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Speaker 1: an Epic React, Harachi. If it's the right one, and

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Speaker 1: it's the Ultra Boost, that's it. That's the list, that's

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Speaker 1: and anything else you're you know, you're sacrificing comfort for style.

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Speaker 1: It's great vest weather. The fact that we didn't talk

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Speaker 1: I could have actually worn that quarter zip. That was

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Speaker 1: the great I mean that What a moment that was

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Speaker 1: coming back from the combine to see that just sitting

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Speaker 1: folds folded. Ready, let's think about this for a second.

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Speaker 1: If you think about the brad Melon Pursuit of Excellence Award,

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Speaker 1: at the best of the HBC. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: like that was a quick turnaround, Like we've been working

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Speaker 1: on hoodies for two years and have gotten nowhere, and

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Speaker 1: in fact, I've almost gone backwards to the point where

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Speaker 1: Now I think there's none. I'm being mocked in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: the only time it's ever been seen, like like Moby

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Speaker 1: And now because that one's out there, it's gonna end

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Speaker 1: up on somebody's it's gonna be on k Adam Show.

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Speaker 1: Because we're wearing a white one. That's all it takes

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Speaker 1: is one and you're done. You're cooked. So that's why

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Speaker 1: the color that we are now pursuing shall not be

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Speaker 1: named correct that way. So when we unload it on

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Speaker 1: the world, it's going to be incredible, incredible moment. Do

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Speaker 1: you today, you are you aware that today is the

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Speaker 1: sports solstice. I was not aware of that. I don't

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Speaker 1: everything goes today, NHL, Major League Baseball, NBA, NFL, all

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Speaker 1: the pro sports, even MLS, all of them go today.

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Speaker 1: Is there college football tonight? There is some games there

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Speaker 1: Are actually calling this a good football game tonight? No,

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Speaker 1: That's right. The Saints are newtered. I mean, no one's playing,

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Speaker 1: This week. I've known that my whole teams on BIS

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Speaker 1: Hopkins at you. No big deal, no big deal, no waves,

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Speaker 1: they cut in away. What's the name of the team,

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Speaker 1: and uh Vince Condi front of the show, Soon Me

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Speaker 1: name the Waffles got no to me and the waff

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Speaker 1: Waffle has got no release nothing. I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: the small things right and we will be just fine.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been humming as an offense last week

424
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Speaker 1: obviously not as good against the New England Patriots. Was

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Speaker 1: it anything they did or was it more things that

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Speaker 1: you guys did or did not do. You know that

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Speaker 1: they have a great defense, but I feel like in

428
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Speaker 1: most cases we were hurting ourselves, you know, just like

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Speaker 1: the small things that we made mistakes onund or mental

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Speaker 1: arizona or whatever. So, like I said, we just gotta

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Speaker 1: just take a deep breath, you know, and attack every day. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just be more present. You know, today we're gonna We're

433
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Speaker 1: gonna worry about today, Tomorrow, tomorrow and then so forth.

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Speaker 1: For you personally, last four weeks, you know, you've been

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Speaker 1: on a heck of a run. Catching the football slow

436
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Speaker 1: in the early season, you didn't say much, and then

437
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have the three straight games

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Speaker 1: with five catchers or more than seventy yards. You have

439
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 1: had at least fifty yards in four straight games. What's

440
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Speaker 1: How's that connection which we were set kind of started

441
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Speaker 1: to click? Maybe we have we're clicking for sure. We're uh,

442
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: we have really good chemistry. He's a great leader, you know,

443
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously a great quarterback. So I just gotta

444
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Speaker 1: just keep building off of the previous weeks. For you personally,

445
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Speaker 1: do you have you taken on more of a leadership

446
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Speaker 1: role this year. Uh yeah, I think so. Just like

447
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: just in terms of this, trying to help the the

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Speaker 1: younger guys, you know, um just bring them with with us.

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Speaker 1: Um ah. Yeah. So just whatever I can do to

450
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Speaker 1: help the team, you know and be successful is what

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Speaker 1: I'll do. Would you say more lead by example or

452
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Speaker 1: are you starting to get a little bit more vocal,

453
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Speaker 1: because look, the fact of the matter is you've been

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Speaker 1: here as long as anybody. You are one of the

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Speaker 1: best players on this football team. You do it absolutely

456
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Speaker 1: the right way, and you know, I think that attitude

457
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Speaker 1: is something that would be helpful for a lot of people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. Whatever it takes, actions, words, whatever um I

459
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Speaker 1: can do to help anybody on the team, just you know,

460
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Speaker 1: show their best self is what I'm here for. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this Ravens team because it's a big game,

462
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Speaker 1: division game and opportunity there one game ahead of you

463
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Speaker 1: right now, chance to even that up and get the

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Speaker 1: them when you put them on in preparation? Great team,

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Speaker 1: great team, great often, great defense, and great special teams.

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Speaker 1: You know. So we have our our hands full. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great test, great challenge, and I'm

470
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Speaker 1: very excited. How close do you think you guys are

471
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Speaker 1: to kind of putting it all together? You know, it's

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Speaker 1: just ongoing talk of you know, how close we are,

473
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Speaker 1: you know and everything. And initially, like the earlier weeks

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Speaker 1: I was talking about, you know, we're very close, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: but talking doesn't really do anything. We have to show

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Speaker 1: that we are putting it together. We we we put

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Speaker 1: it together, you know what I'm saying. So, Um, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna focus on what we we gotta do to execute better,

479
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Speaker 1: to be better, you know, on all sides of the ball,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, just get the job done. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like there's a sense of urgency. There's always a sense

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Speaker 1: of urgency, especially the NFL, you know. Um. One one

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Speaker 1: one thing that I live by that help me gets

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Speaker 1: where I am was just the thought of nobody being safe.

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter who you are, if you're

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Speaker 1: not doing your job to a high you know, um standard,

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Speaker 1: you know you're not safe. And even if you are,

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Speaker 1: you know you're not safe. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So it's just like that that mentality that I have,

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Speaker 1: it helps me, you know, push harder, you know, go

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Speaker 1: the extra mile of doing whatever I do to being

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Speaker 1: a better player. Always see it on the field. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to learn more. Yeah, he's gonna have a big one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you need him. And here's a fun, little fun factoid

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Speaker 1: for you. David A. Joco on the season twenty seven

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Speaker 1: catches three forty seven yards, one touchdown, twenty seven catches

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Speaker 1: fifth among all tight ends three or forty seven yards

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Speaker 1: fourth among all tight ends. But his three d and

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Speaker 1: forty yards receiving since Week two are second in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: but hind only Mark Andrews at the tight end position.

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is so good it's it's it's absurd. By

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Speaker 1: the way, he's one of those guys I think, because

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Speaker 1: they don't throw it as much as Kelsey and certainly

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Speaker 1: Kill even when he was at his peak that I

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Speaker 1: don't know that he gets the attention um, but he

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Speaker 1: should because he's sensational. So just run through a few

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Speaker 1: things for you. Seven touchdowns in his last six games

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Speaker 1: against the Browns and eight it feels like eight career

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Speaker 1: games versus Cleveland forty catches, five, ten yards, seven touchdowns

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Speaker 1: this year thirty nine catches, four fifty five and five

515
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Speaker 1: almost on the Ravens. He is second amongst tight ends

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Speaker 1: and receptions and touchdowns, tied for first and yards all

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Speaker 1: with Kelsey. His next one yard game will be the

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Speaker 1: tenth of his career, which will be the most in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens franchise history for anybody he's started with. Tied

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Speaker 1: with Mark Clayton right now. Mark Clayton was like a meteor.

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Speaker 1: He had like one really good year and then it

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Speaker 1: was gone, Oklahoma, guy too, right, son of Mike Clayton. Right, No,

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Speaker 1: well wasn't There was a Mike. There was a Mark

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Speaker 1: Clayton and Mark Duper who both played for the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: The son of that Mark Clayton. Then, yeah, so's they

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Speaker 1: named him? Right? Ran it right back? I thought so,

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Speaker 1: I thought that I thought that there was a relation there,

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Speaker 1: all right. I've also done Jr. Could be um getting

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Speaker 1: some reconnaissance. Uh this from our buddy a K who's

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Speaker 1: up in Alaska. He went duck hunting last weekend in Alaska,

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Speaker 1: and he said, let me tell you, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: full of buckshot when they hit the plate. He also

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Speaker 1: said there's no way Off is getting domestic ducks to eat.

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Speaker 1: If he got himself, I guarantee their wild And as

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Speaker 1: I was doing some quick research, I think, if you

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Speaker 1: a mallard, which doesn't feel like deal. Like, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I feel about birds, but like I honestly think like

539
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Speaker 1: I could have a mallard as a pet. You could.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think I'd have him around on in my backyard?

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Speaker 1: And the retention gorgeous? They come up. They actually like

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Speaker 1: hang out with my dogs. Yeah, they're not aggressive, they're

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Speaker 1: just chilling. Man, My dogs are like these these things

544
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Speaker 1: are kind of cool, cool little heads. Man. They seem

545
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Speaker 1: like they're nice. You know, if I got one on

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Speaker 1: a leash, like Ziggy from the wire he was walking

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Speaker 1: around that duck, why not didn't last long? Giving it whiskey.

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Speaker 1: It's probably the reason, apparently based on a true story,

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Speaker 1: that that whole scene. What are you looking up still?

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Speaker 1: You see? If they were related, I don't think they are.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, I don't think so. Not amazing to also

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Speaker 1: be a Mark Clayton though, but he actually here's the

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Speaker 1: craziest part is the Mark Clayton did actually name his

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Speaker 1: firstborn son, Mark Gregory Clayton the second. So there is

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Speaker 1: a Mark. Mark Clayton does have another Mark Clayton. It's

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Speaker 1: just not this Mark clay not this Mark Clayton. And

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Speaker 1: previews with our offense versus their defense and our offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Alex venpelt Coast see you guys up. Well one

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Speaker 1: wise they couldn't get him that second level like he

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Speaker 1: normally does. Yeah, and that was that was disappointing. You know,

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Speaker 1: we didn't play our best really across the board. You

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Speaker 1: going like we like to, like we usually do, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he took this is probably unlikely

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Speaker 1: second half of that game on Sunday? And would you

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Speaker 1: be if the estimate is some time here? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean obviously you'd like to have your your five starters

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Speaker 1: in so anytime you lose one of those guys, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a low but um yelled will step

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Speaker 1: hopefully he'll be back soon. But you know, we we

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Speaker 1: We expect them to play at a high level when

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Speaker 1: they get in the game. Yeah, it's on the first

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Speaker 1: inter seption by Jacobe. Does he need to drow that sooner?

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Speaker 1: Like it was Farrell open early in the play and

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Speaker 1: of decision making. Um, you know, just playing smarter that

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Speaker 1: early in the game, not trying to make a high

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Speaker 1: level of difficulty in the throw. Um. Yes, if you'd

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Speaker 1: thrown it further, it may have gotten there. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I really just want to make sure we take care

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Speaker 1: of the football moving forward. And that's what I know.

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Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't happy with the decision to try

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Speaker 1: that so early in the game. So that's not the

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Speaker 1: part of the read for sure. Um, But you know,

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Speaker 1: game is to not have negative plays. Whether he sacks

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Speaker 1: just throw it way to get back in the huddle.

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Speaker 1: point of passing up wide open guys underneath. Was that

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Speaker 1: just the game playing for the week or is that

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Speaker 1: something that he was just seeing out there? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: think sometimes that's what you see. That's what you do.

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Speaker 1: you're looking back and preparing for the weeks ahead. Does

635
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: that give you confidence to keep going with that run

636
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: game even when it's slipping a little slow. Do you

637
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: feel that you can move it forward in the game

638
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: to come? Yeah? I think so. I think that game dictated, uh,

639
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, us to get away from the run game

640
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: by the score. At certain points obviously you know we

641
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: want to run up more, get the ball in those

642
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: guys hands, uh, and use that offensive line in our

643
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: tight ends up front. Um, sometimes the game doesn't allow

644
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: that to happen. So, I know we were very confident

645
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: in the run game. We feel great about where we are.

646
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: We just had a you know, a set a step

647
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: back last week and continue moving forward to I think

648
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: we'll have success in the run twelve. Between Jacoby and

649
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: n Amori, what do you attribute that too? Mostly it

650
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: just wasn't their day really. You know, they have a

651
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: good bond to have real good relationship at where they are,

652
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: They communicated really well. Sometimes it just doesn't come to fruition.

653
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: You look at that Ravens defense. First of all, is

654
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: is there run defense similar to similar to what the

655
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: Patriots do? Um, you know, as far as it can be,

656
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: it can be. You know, the FED throughout the league

657
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: right now is teams playing multiple fronts out of multiple

658
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: personnel groupings, and that seems to have taken off, you know,

659
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: across the league. So you know, I think we'll see

660
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: five on the line fronts. We'll see nickel fronts that

661
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: give you an odd structure and make it look like

662
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: a three down base front. So, UM, seen a lot

663
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: of that this year. Um. You know, we just have

664
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: to be ready to adjust and make sure we're communicating

665
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: what structure of defense we're running against. Camp Where do

666
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: they do so well to create the number of takeaways?

667
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: That very talented back in Uh, you know for sure

668
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: the corners are outstanding players. Um. You know, Clark's a

669
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: really good safety plays down in the box. They played

670
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: in that scheme for a while together now, so they're

671
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: playing well as a unit. Your approach when when they

672
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: have so many takeaways, you know, eight interceptions for recoveries,

673
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: what's your mindset is you as you get into the

674
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: game against over emphasis on ball security? You know, it's

675
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: always our number one goal in the game is to

676
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 1: come out with zero giveaways. UM, we got to double

677
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: down on that this week. The biggest challenge for you

678
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: to get the most out of your guys not just

679
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: when they're here, but when they're away and getting that

680
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: game plan ready when they're away from it. Yeah, just

681
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: you know, I know there's been a lot of talk

682
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: about commitment this week, and you know it's what can

683
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: you do extra? What what can you do more that

684
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: we haven't done to this point moving forward? UM, that's

685
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: kind of what we've talked about as a unit, as

686
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: a group, UM, and as those extra spend an extra

687
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: hour in the playbook at night and watch some tape

688
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: whatever that is. UM, you know, communicate with your your

689
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: fell of teammates about certain plays, whatever that could be.

690
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: Let's you know, find a way to just make improvements

691
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: this week. But you're younger receivers, you know, David Bell,

692
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz, Michael was, how are they coming along and

693
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: what more do you need to see from them over

694
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: the next few weeks. I think David Bill's fit right

695
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: in the silently made plays when we've asked him to UM,

696
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: the ball finds him when he's open um and he

697
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: catches the ball and makes positive yards. It was good

698
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: to see Mike Woods get into a game last week

699
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: for the first time. I had to catch. So these

700
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: young guys got to step up and come on and

701
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: they are feel good about where they're at. All Right,

702
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: there's a VP at the podium. We went over some

703
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: of the specifics of the matchup. I wanted to run

704
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: uh this by you because I think six games this

705
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: too much feels true to me, and especially we'll be

706
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: true on Sunday. We have to dictate the script. We

707
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: are not a chase offense. It's not what it is.

708
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: We've got to score early. We've got to have success

709
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: in the first half of games. That way we can

710
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: stay in games. If it goes the other way. What

711
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: happens is what happened in the game on Sunday, where

712
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: it's really uphill because it's just not how we're made

713
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: is currently constructed. No, And that's a tough part. With

714
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. They have scored first in every game

715
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: they've played this year. They've been ahead or tied at

716
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: the end of the first quarter, of the second quarter,

717
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: and the third quarter in every single game that they've

718
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: played this year. They have not allowed a single point

719
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: on an opponent's opening possession this year. They're the only

720
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: team that does not even a field goal. And so, yeah,

721
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: this is this is a tough matchup, but you're right,

722
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: we've got to dictated. And now this is a team

723
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: that has done historically pretty well against the Browns, and

724
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: especially Nick Chubb. He's been under a hundred yards rushing

725
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: in five straight against Baltimore. He is only one hundred

726
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: yard game of his career was Week four, two thousand nineteen,

727
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: when we had that big win in Baltimore. Ran for

728
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 1: one sixty five and three touchdowns. The other seven games

729
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: against the Ravens averaging forty one yards three point six

730
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: yards of carrying, has just two total touchdowns. And you

731
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: go last year in Baltimore, eight carries sixteen yards for Chubb,

732
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: seven rushes twenty yards for Hunt. Even in the win

733
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: at home, seventeen carries fifty nine yards for Chubb to

734
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: rushes five yards for Kareem Hunts. So they they're gonna

735
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: be big upfront, They're gonna get around that line of scrimmage.

736
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: They're gonna dare us, you know, to try to beat

737
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: them through the air, and they feel like Look, even

738
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: though our pasty so far this year's twenty in the league,

739
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: two sixty seven point seven yards a game. We're gonna

740
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: get some interceptions. We know that we've got takeaways right now.

741
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: They've got eight picks, four fumble recoveries, twelve total takeaways,

742
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: third most in the league. They have a takeaway in

743
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: eight straight games, along at streak in the NFL sixteen

744
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: takeaways the last eight games, which is the most in

745
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. They've got two young defensive tackles who are

746
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: playing well. Justin Mattabuq already has two and a half

747
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: sacks this year, which is a career high and leads

748
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: the Ravens. They have Travis Jones was the name that

749
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: was bandied about for the Browns quite a bit, who

750
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: has started to become a big player. Last week career

751
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: high four tackles, had his first sack of his career,

752
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: a tackle for lost, two quarterback hits, and it was

753
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: his first start against the Giants, So not bad for

754
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: their third round pick. H rushing the passer. You still

755
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: got Calais Campbell, the six time Pro bowler. Uh, he's

756
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: got two sacks this season. You've got a daup a

757
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: way out of Penn State, their first round pick a

758
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: year ago. He only has one sack so far this year,

759
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: but he has a team high eight teen pressures. Campbell

760
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: has seventeen, second most on the team. Give you some context,

761
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: eighteen and seventeen would be second and third on our

762
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: team because Myles Geartt has twenty eight on this season.

763
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: He only played five games. Jason Pierre Paul, the veteran

764
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: is with still around. He's got a sack. He started

765
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: the last three games for him on the season. Uh,

766
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: they've got Justin Houston who's missed the last three but

767
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: had two sacks in the first three games that if

768
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: he can come back, obviously he still knows how to

769
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. He's got a hundred and four

770
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: career sacks. Jason Pierre Paul's got ninety two and a

771
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: half career sacks, Clays Campbell ninety five and a half

772
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: career sax. They got three guys with over ninety sacks

773
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: and their careers. There. We have nobody on our roster

774
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: with that, Betty, and in fact we have many people

775
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: who have zero. That's right for their career in our

776
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: defensive end room, UH linebackers Patrick Queen thirty eight tackles,

777
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: second on the team, Great Blitzer, he already has two

778
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: and a half sacks and a forced fumble, ten pressures,

779
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: He's got an interception the force fumble I mentioned two

780
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: tackles for losses. He does have eight miss tackles though,

781
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: which is the most on the Ravens. And he's still

782
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: a liability a little bit in coverage, but having a

783
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: very nice season. Then you go to the back ends,

784
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: the two corners, Marlon Humphrey at two time Pro bowler,

785
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters himself as a three time Pro bowler. Um,

786
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: so these are guys who have you know, can pick

787
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: the ball off. Humphrey eleven career interceptions. He led the

788
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: NFL with eight forced fumbles in twenty weird staff for

789
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: a corner, but so it's something to keep an eye on.

790
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: And then Marcus Peters he has a pick already five passes. Defense,

791
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: they play three safeties thirty percent of the time, dime

792
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: number one in the league. UH. And those safeties are

793
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: Chuck Clark, who leads a team with forty tackles. He's

794
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: been a four year starter Geno Stone is now starting.

795
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: He's not so great in coverage, better against the run.

796
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: He's starting because Marcus Williams, their big free agent signing

797
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: from the Saints, is out, and then Kyle Hamilton's Uh

798
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: the rookie. Now that I dug in, then I can

799
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: answer your question better. Uh has been a huge liability

800
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: and coverage given up eighty eight percent completions, two touchdowns,

801
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: a rating of a hundred fifty eight point three when targeted,

802
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: and in fact in the season only has twelve tackles

803
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: all year, and he's only playing thirty eight percent of

804
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: their snaps no starts, so that's wild. He was so good.

805
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: So they're big upfront, as we talked about, they've got

806
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, Travis Jones is three thirty four. Broderick Washington,

807
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: who plays a lot for them up front, he's three fourteen.

808
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: Matta Bouc's to ninety three. He plays that three technique

809
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: um and then on the edges though that's where they're

810
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: a little lighter. O ways to fifty seven. You want

811
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: to run right at him. Pierre Paul Houston, they're both

812
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: to seventy, so bigger guys who can a little stirdier,

813
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: but neither one are have ever been known to be

814
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: run defenders. Maybe Pierre Paul back in his Giants days,

815
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: but justin Houston, always a speed guy. So yeah, we've

816
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: got to try to get after them. Uh. From a

817
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: coverage standpoint, their number one coverages cover three cent time.

818
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: That's twentieth in the league, so not a ton of it.

819
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: They play really a lot of everything. Uh, they are

820
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: as I said, you know, eighty percent of time in

821
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: nickel or dime. That is the new base defense in

822
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. UM. They've got fifteen sacks, tied for eleventh.

823
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: They had four last weeks. They have eleven sack in

824
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: their last four games, and they have four games this

825
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: season of three or more sacks. So they will come

826
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: after you. Uh, they will bring the pressure. Cover zero

827
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: as I said, no points on the opening drive. And

828
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: then here's one thing to note, fourth quarter, fourth quarter

829
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: past defense five and fifty two yards and six touchdowns

830
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: a lot in the fourth quarter alone of games, which

831
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: is just a wild stand The reason why they're three

832
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: and three despite going into the fourth quarter with the

833
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: lead or tied in all six games, never trailing, never trailing.

834
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: Give me wants to know, give him an X factor

835
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: for this week. Who's somebody who you'll have your eye

836
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: on other than the normal have a big game. Well,

837
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: we've got to be able to run the ball, so

838
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: I think that that's important. So then the X factor

839
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: has become you know, how does Yell de fro Holt

840
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: fill in for Wyatt Teller at right guard did a

841
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: good job last week? Um, but I'll give I'll give

842
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, Donovan People's Jones. I think it

843
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: is a little bit of an X factor. He's had

844
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: at least fifty yards and four straight games last year

845
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: against them, had five catches for ninety yards in our

846
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: last meeting with the Ravens, So I think that's a

847
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: little bit of an ex factor. They're going to give

848
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: a lot of attention to a Marii Cooper and then

849
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: I'll actually say a third receiver because if you know,

850
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: Humphrey and Peters are occupied with Donovan People's Jones and

851
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper, maybe Michael Woods. Michael Wood showed me something

852
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: one catch fifteen yards. Remember him from training camp? You

853
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: know David Bell for the season, he's played a lot

854
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: to have six catches for sixty eight yards on the season.

855
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: Just feels like it's a lot of empty wraps out there. Now.

856
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: Maybe he's doing stuff that's opening things up for other people,

857
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: but it feels that way. Whereas Mike Woods has a

858
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: little bit of juice to him, so I like him. Uh,

859
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: And then it'd be nice to see, you know, Harrison Bryant,

860
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Farrell Brown, one of our other tight ends, you know,

861
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: have a nice day. Brown had to catch for twenty

862
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: one yards. But you know, we gotta get these guys

863
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: into the end zone. That's what's wild about our our

864
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: team right now. So Amari's got four touchdowns, the Chiefs

865
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: got one touchdown receiving in terms of what Jacobe is

866
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: thrown four on the season because he's thrown He's thrown

867
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: six touchdowns on the year, um and one of them

868
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: has been to Kareem Hunt. So that's four one one

869
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: d PJ no touchdown, Shwarts, no touchdowns, Bell, no touchdowns,

870
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: Harrison Bryan who has had three scores each last year. Nothing,

871
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: So maybe getting somebody else involved it hasn't gotten into

872
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: the end zone yet would be good. And then it's

873
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing, you know, when we'll get

874
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: to our defense. But one of these guys like Alex Right,

875
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: Isaac Rochelle, Isaiah Thomas, all don't have a sack. Davin Bryant,

876
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: he's now he's got ten pressures. He doesn't have a sack.

877
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: Perry On Winfrey doesn't have a sack. Togy has got

878
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: half a sack. Jordan Elliott's got one sack. It's like

879
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: Miles and then nobody else, especially without clowning. We need

880
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: clowney tough to go about your business that way, and

881
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: we'll get to the defensive side of the matchup. You'll

882
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: hear from Joe Woods in just a minute when a

883
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,960
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886
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,600
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895
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: the other side, the most critical our defense versus their offense.

896
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Here's your defensive coordinator, Joe woods Reay. We'll give you

897
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: up at night. Um, given the success you guys did

898
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: have last year against him, did you did you feel

899
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: like you've figured something out or was that just kind

900
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: of a game that he made some mistakes and went

901
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: your way? Um? Just in general, how did you feel,

902
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: but how you did last year with him? You know,

903
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: looking back at the games, definitely felt like we've played better. Um.

904
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: And it comes down this scheme. It's really for us.

905
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: We always look at as a rules game because of

906
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: the unique run game, the quarterback. They make you play

907
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: with eleven, so you don't want to get too complicated

908
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: with what you're doing. Us want to make sure your

909
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: sound and they have so much offense, so when you

910
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: watch it and you're going blind, UM, you're not going

911
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: to get at all, but trying to get a good

912
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: piece of it. Just trying to scheme to maybe find

913
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: that one guy on defense that they can expose. Do

914
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: they do that, or because of the system that they

915
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: run that they're not necessarily trying that. No, I just

916
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: I think they do what they do. Um, they're gonna

917
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: look at our defense package, their run game, what they

918
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: want to run against us. Uh. In the passing game, um,

919
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: you can see, you know, they're getting rid of the

920
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: ball fast. He's making good decisions. Um, he's accurate. But

921
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: they're also taking their shots now to field. So you

922
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: really have to be able to deal with everything. But

923
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it's anything specific in terms of targeting

924
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: guys playing really to play. You know, we're taking it

925
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: day by day. Uh, because he's learned the system, getting

926
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: comfortable with the techniques. Um, hopefully he plays. But we'll

927
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: see today and den do you expect to have them back?

928
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: It's same thing day by day. So I think JD

929
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: Is gonna be out there in the field today, But

930
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things we have to see

931
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: how they feel. Jo. Last week, you said that the

932
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: depense has the talent to be top five in the league.

933
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: You know, given the way you guys played last year.

934
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: Right now you're at thirty pers Yeah, what are you

935
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: making that through six games? I did not know that. No,

936
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: Um no, I did that right. I honestly, you just

937
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: look back and you know in games like you see

938
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: the scores, you see the yards, but it really comes

939
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: down to like three or four plays. You know, if

940
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: you make a play now, you're not out there for

941
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: the next eight plays. You don't give it those scores.

942
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: And I just felt like we've been inconsistent in terms

943
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: of extecuting the scheme. Uh, in terms of fundamentals. You

944
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: saw that last week for us. From a coaching standpoint,

945
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: there's things you know. I know you guys asked the

946
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: question what we're doing more? What we're doing more? There's

947
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: things we want to do. But if you're not consistent

948
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: and playing well, you you're really trying to pull back

949
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: until you can get that. Um. So there's a lot

950
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: of things to answer your question. We just gotta get

951
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: We gotta get better perception for the outside. There's the

952
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: multitude additions. Yeah, you know, how difficult is it to

953
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: correct any of them when they have an impact on

954
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: one of them? If you want to stop the run more,

955
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: that puts you in spots in the passing game vice versa. Yeah,

956
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: and that's part of it. And you're referring to last week.

957
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: You know, we we had to be more aggressive the

958
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: stop to run. I mean, they have a huge offensive

959
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: line and I think outside of the third down play,

960
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: UM probably sixty seventy yards, which was a big improvement

961
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: for us. But when you do that, you're more one

962
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: on one situations. But I have confidence in our secondary.

963
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 1: You know that's my background. I don't have problems matching

964
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: them up. Um. They hit us one, made some good throws,

965
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: caught us in some good coverages. But I believe we

966
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: can make those plays. But it's a balance a boat

967
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: thinking about guys maybe not taking things home with them,

968
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: and then we hear you're not able to do everything

969
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: that you want to do. Is is that the reason

970
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: why they're not feeling extr stought? No, I wouldn't say that.

971
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: It's it's really in general is when when you're playing well,

972
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: then you feel more comfortable because there's things you do

973
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: and you say, okay, we did that has success. Let's

974
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: add a little twist to it, you know, and you

975
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: just keep building it and you get your library. But

976
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: when you're having the issues we have, you gotta say,

977
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: hold on a second, let's get things fixed. First, and

978
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: then let's get to some things that we feel we're

979
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: having success with. But in terms of um, what John

980
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: said and somebody just told me, but that's that's his

981
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: players learn how to be a professional. And when you

982
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: have young guys, it's just not what you do in

983
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: the building, it's like what you do when you go home. Um,

984
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that's what he was referring to. Not

985
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: to use that as these but is that they're not

986
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: enough veteran guys on that defense to kind of show

987
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: them a way. Yeah. No, it's never excuse, and I

988
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: don't never want to come across like I'm making excuses,

989
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: and I hope I don't do that. Um, it's just

990
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: everybody has to learn how to do it their own way,

991
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: whatever that is, whether it's learning from a veteran, whether

992
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: it's learning from some other guy you know in the league.

993
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: It's just what do you do day to day and

994
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: we try to help him. That's one of the first

995
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: things I do in the offseason. I have a weekly

996
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: schedule that I should always give to my gas in

997
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: terms of what to look at every day. But it's

998
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: something they'll they'll learn along the way where their challenges

999
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: when a guy like a tight end like Mark Andrews

1000
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: is the obvious number one target. That's why it's tough. Right,

1001
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: Let's say that you go and try to double him.

1002
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: Now you're short a gap in the run game, and

1003
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: now Lamar is going for so it has to be balanced,

1004
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So for us, it's this

1005
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: having enough calls where there's balanced in terms of defending

1006
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: the run and at times having ability to take away

1007
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: the tight end. Is this a talkie game. I think

1008
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: it's a it's a j ok game. I think it's

1009
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: a Ronnie Harrison game. You know, you go back and

1010
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: you look last year. When you go back and you

1011
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: look at the game last year against this defense or

1012
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: against this offense, I'm sorry, and I'll focus on the

1013
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: game in Baltimore. Lamar and sixty five yards, one touchdown,

1014
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: four picks, seventeen carries, sixty eight yards. Seventeen carries sixty

1015
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: eight yards. I'm not much of a mathematician, but that's

1016
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: exactly four yards to carry there. Um, that tells you

1017
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: right there that you did a great job. He's everaging

1018
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: eight yards to carry this season. So we go in

1019
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: and you break it down, all right, You had Ronnie

1020
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: Harrison team high fourteen tackles and an interception. J Ok

1021
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: thirteen tackles, a half, a sack, and a tackle for

1022
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: a loss in that one. And so those are the

1023
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: guys that I think you need to step up and

1024
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: then the game here, Delpett had a team high eleven tackles.

1025
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: You need those guys that you have, your lighter guys

1026
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: who can run around and make plays for are you

1027
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: make plays? And j Ok, you know, snaps down to

1028
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: thirty three last week. He's missed nine tackles this year,

1029
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: which is the most on the team. He's he's struggling

1030
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: a little bit the last few weeks, UM, and so

1031
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: you need him to be good and you need you know,

1032
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: TALKI is playing well. Toki is the number eighteen linebacker

1033
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: at Pro Football Focus. That makes him, you know, one

1034
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: of the top thirty two to eighteen linebackers in the league.

1035
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: But you think about you know, thirty two teams. So

1036
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: he's playing at a high level, especially against the run.

1037
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: We're playing so much base though this year, which is

1038
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: so uncharacteristic. I think of what we want to be UM,

1039
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: and we're doing that to cover up some of the

1040
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: deficiencies in our ground game, especially since we lost Anthony

1041
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: Walker Jr. And you hope Dion Jones can help you,

1042
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: but you know he's in that same mold to S seven.

1043
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: He's more of a coverage guy. Eleven career picks, Pro bowler.

1044
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: It's got five tackle season, so you hope that he

1045
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: can help. But yeah, this is those guys there at

1046
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: the linebacker position than the safeties. You know, Ronn only

1047
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: played five snaps last week season low. You need him

1048
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: in this game, or Anthony, but you need a third

1049
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: safety to run around make some plays for you. But

1050
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: Ronnie's this is kind of why he's Here's why j

1051
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: OK's here. You need all those guys, but I need

1052
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: and Isaac Rochelle and Alex Right and Isaiah Thomas somebody

1053
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: to step up. Now it sounds like we'll have Clowney,

1054
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: which is great news. We said that, you know, and

1055
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: so maybe you're gonna play those guys the whole time.

1056
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: In Clowney was excellent last year against uh the Ravens.

1057
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: You know, he had one and a half sacks to

1058
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: tackle for a loss. Miles had a sack both games.

1059
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: He had that sextra fumble touchdown in the game at home.

1060
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: That was against Huntley, not against Lamar. Um I sually

1061
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: may have been against Lamars playing Lamar got hurt on

1062
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: maybe Anyway, Lamar only threw four passes in that game.

1063
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: Huntley him for two d and seventy yards and kind

1064
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: of came in in relief. But yeah, we need it's

1065
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: all hands on deck here. You know, they've got Mark

1066
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: Andrews who is the primary weapon, so much so that

1067
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: his thirty nine catches are more than the next three

1068
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: guys on the team's receptions combined, they have thirty eight.

1069
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: Du Verna has hit some big plays so far this year.

1070
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: He has three touchdowns. You gotta watch him if Bateman's back,

1071
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: He's averaging twenty two yards of catch, He's got two

1072
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: touchdowns and he's missed two games. So those are guys

1073
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: you gotta watch out for. You can't give up the

1074
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: big plays. That's what I think we need to keep

1075
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: them in front. Lamar will give you the ball. He's

1076
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: throwing a pick in four straight games and five out

1077
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: of the last six. He's got six picks on the season.

1078
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: He will give you the football at some point, and

1079
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: especially you know what's happened a lot in the fourth quarter.

1080
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: Four picks in the fourth quarter so far this year.

1081
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: Not an easy matchup. They're very good. They're big upfront.

1082
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: You know, if Morgan Moses is back, think about their line.

1083
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: Stanley's three fifteen, Ben Powers, the left guards three forty,

1084
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: the center is three oh five, Zeitler's three forty more,

1085
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: Moses is three twenty. If they play one of their

1086
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: backup guys, does Daniel Foley guys six eight, three eighty

1087
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: Now he's dreadful. I mean he gave up two sacks

1088
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: and like half of a game. Mccary's three ten. And

1089
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: then they have Patrick Ricard, who's a three oh five

1090
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: extra lineman, fullback who's out there. He was on forty

1091
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: five of their uh fifty nine snaps last week. So

1092
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: they're beefy and we are not. It's you know, where

1093
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: was Myles Garrett drafted? Refresh my memory first? Overall? Where

1094
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: was Jadevian Clowne? Yeah? You need those those guys, and

1095
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: hopefully it seems like we're trending toward back with Clowney.

1096
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: We know Myles will play, so barring something else this week,

1097
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: God forbid. Um you need them to be elite because

1098
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: you need all of your best players. J Oka was

1099
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: the second round pick, was great as a first round pick.

1100
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: At one point this year he was the number one

1101
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: graded linebacker in all of the football. So he needs

1102
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: to play to that level. It's not the last few weeks.

1103
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: John Johnson needs to play that. Little Ronnie Harrison needs

1104
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: to be the guy to get fourteen tackles. It's gonna

1105
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: take every bit of that yes to beat this team

1106
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: because they are They are able to do the things

1107
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,479
Speaker 1: that are have been kryptonite to us. They are able

1108
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: to hit the big play. You had Rishod Bateman with

1109
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: his twenty two yards a catch. They can gash you

1110
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: in the run game with Lamar and they're mostly Lamar

1111
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: at this point. If they get the backs going, look

1112
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: out so one yard to carry right. So it's a

1113
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: problematic matchup. Are best players defensively need to play like

1114
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: that and if they don't, then it's gonna be tough,

1115
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: very tough. And we need to be better on offense.

1116
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: You know. Jacoby Risett has got to take care of

1117
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: the football. He's got five turnovers in the last three games.

1118
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: He had one in the first three games. We went

1119
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: two and one in the first three should have gone three.

1120
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: And oh we remember we said this last year with

1121
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, anytime we would go around the NFL and

1122
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: we talk about the Ravens, we would say, look, there's

1123
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: a certain way that they have to win. We're like

1124
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: that times ten right now. There's a very specific roadmap

1125
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: for us each week to win, especially we take play

1126
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: teams like this without the margin for air. There's none here.

1127
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: So you've got a certain roadmap to follow and if

1128
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: you deviate from it, then you're stuck. And that's something

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Speaker 1: a call right now. Fantasy Football this week, Week seven,

1157
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: go ahead, down, Real Quick. Coming out of Baltimore, Jamison

1158
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: Hensley saying four players returned to practice after missing Wednesday.

1159
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: Wide receiver Devin DuVernay, defensive end Clais Campbell right, tackle

1160
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: Morgan Moses, and guard Ben Cleveland bad news. Four players

1161
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: remained sideline to Mark Andrews knee, Patrick Ricard knee, JK

1162
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: Dobbins knee, and Marcus Peters rest. So Marcus Peters should

1163
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: be fine, but interesting there on on Ricard and Andrews, now,

1164
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: I expect like Dobbins is down, could be down ye,

1165
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: and it feels like they will be, you know, back tomorrow.

1166
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: For the other guys. Yeah, Andrews would be the one

1167
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: that would be absurdly noteworthy there if that were the

1168
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: way that it ended up. Going Week seven Fantasy Football,

1169
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: it starts tonight. DeAndre He've been telling people for a

1170
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: long time he's back tonight. Yeah, I'm gonna roll him

1171
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: because I need to for a lot of buys of

1172
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: important teams. I mean, Buffalo is a big team, King,

1173
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: so no justin Jefferson, Yeah, a lot of good players.

1174
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: So if you need a quarterback this week, I would

1175
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: give a look on the waiver wire to a couple

1176
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: of the guys. Dak Prescott, if he was cutting your league,

1177
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: I'd pick him up and play him against the Detroit Lions.

1178
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo against Kansas City Geno Smith against the Chargers,

1179
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: and even Matt Ryan against Tennessee would be some guys

1180
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: that I would be looking at their UM running backs.

1181
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: Travis E. T N is on the rise. I think

1182
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: he's a good flex. He's starting to outsnap. Every week

1183
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: a snap percentage goes up. It's kind of like what

1184
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: we talked about the Briest Hall, like why don't you

1185
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: just give him more opportunities? And maybe it looks like

1186
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: they might be doing that. Um you've got. I don't

1187
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: like David Montgomery against New England. I can tell you

1188
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: that right now. Love Breese Hall, love Kenneth Walker. Those

1189
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: are guys that should be in your line is from

1190
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: Dray Stevenson. I mean, the guy's phenomenals we've seen unfortunately,

1191
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: uh firsthand, and then you know, hopefully we're gonna shut

1192
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: down Kenyan Drake. But I had understand why somebody pop

1193
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: him into their lineups and then going to receiver real quickly.

1194
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: You know the big names that you know. But I

1195
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: do think you know you've got I'm in Ross st. Brown,

1196
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: he's back from injury. Get him into your lineups. I

1197
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: love Michael Pittman against Tennessee. Love my guy, as I

1198
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: mentioned DeAndre Hopkins at NAZY. When I've said that, I

1199
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: think you keep rolling with him, and I think you

1200
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: take a shot on like a Brandon. I you couple

1201
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: touchdowns last week, good matchup. Just Chase Claypool get a

1202
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: little more action now. It felt like maybe he was

1203
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: a little bit on the ascent. So that's somebody to

1204
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: keep an eye on as well. And then for streaming

1205
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: tight ends, defenses, uh, tight ends, give a look to

1206
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: this guy, not a great name, Daniel Bellinger. If you

1207
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: really need to tie end this week, I think Daniel

1208
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: Bellinger is an interesting one. Hunter Henry as Well has

1209
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: come on strong ever since Bailey's Appy has been the quarterback.

1210
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: And I've been following the Patriots close enough to know

1211
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: if mac Jones is back or not. But I feel

1212
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: like Bailey's Appy's Bailey Happy is more than adequate. It's

1213
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: just fine. And then defenses, Uh, Patriots against the Bears,

1214
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: great stream Cowboys against the Lions, great stream Bucks against

1215
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: Carolina would be a great stream as well. And then

1216
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers against Miami, because are we still

1217
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: sure what's happening with Miami? Like it's gonna be too

1218
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying, then I would do the

1219
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: opposite Miami against Pitts press release and they say two

1220
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: is playing. Okay, alright, so then opposite Miami against Pittsburgh. Alright,

1221
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: let's do it. Guess on the lines. All right, you've

1222
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: got a total of fourteen games again this week because

1223
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: of the buys, my expectation for you is nine. All right,

1224
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: that's where I've been living in. I mean, that's it's tough,

1225
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: though it is very alright. New Orleans at Arizona tonight.

1226
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans at Arizona tonight. They make Arizona favorites in

1227
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: all these games. I'm gonna go Arizona minus two minus

1228
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: two and a half. This moved actually two points. Alright, Well,

1229
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: it was Arizona four and a half and now it's

1230
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: down to two four and a half based on what

1231
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Atlanta at Cincinnati. Atlanta at Cincinnati.

1232
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta's coming off of a big win over the Niners.

1233
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: They have they won two in a row. Um, I'm

1234
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: not sure they beat us. Uh, they're the only team

1235
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: to cover every week. Yeah, Bengals minus six and a

1236
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: half nailed it. What a start. Lions at Cowboys Dallas

1237
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: minus eight, nailed it minus seven, three for three within

1238
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: one's a win. Indie at Tennessee. Good lord, he's never

1239
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: started like this, Ladies and gentleman, We've never had this

1240
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: sort of hot start. Three for his verse three Tennessee

1241
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: minus one. Bump bump, bum bum minus two and a half.

1242
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: Packers at Tommy's Cream Bay has not been good, but

1243
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: I have not covered in three weeks. Green Bay Tyler

1244
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: he Nicky or Taylor, whatever his name is, whoever you

1245
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay minus seven minus five just missed god him

1246
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: cold now Bucks at Panthers. I'm overthinking everything. You are

1247
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: go with your gut minus. I hate this one that

1248
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: you missed this. It's minus eleven and you have the

1249
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: spirit of it. Giants at Jacksonville, New York Football Giants

1250
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: at the jackson falling apart, falling bars. You had all

1251
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: the momentum and now three straight losses after three straight wins. Okay,

1252
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: what is it again? Giants at Jacksonville Giants minus two

1253
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: and a half. Jaguars minus three. What that's right? What

1254
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting that one? No. Cleveland at Baltimore Ravens

1255
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: minus six. Yep, got it minus six and a half.

1256
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: Jets at Denver. Did you see Russ's new ad with

1257
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: the subway like the actual ad? No in him in

1258
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: the outfit danger Us. No, it's a scene man, four up,

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Speaker 1: four down. Jets at Denver, Denver minus one and a half.

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01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: Nailed it on the money, right back at it. Texans

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01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: at Rates coming off the bi for the Rates Raiders

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01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: minus five and a half. God, I'm gonna say six.

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01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, what if it's only four

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Speaker 1: and a half. Seattle at Chargers Chargers minus three and

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01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: a half, minus six and a half? What Casey at

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01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: San Francisco Chiefs minus four, Chiefs minus two and a half.

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01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, only like a half. You're right off, I

1268
01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: mean it was one and a half. You nail it

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: all went to hell Pit at Miami. I no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm just despondent at your beat. Dolphins minus eight, got

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Speaker 1: it minus seven. Finally, Bears at New England, New England

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Speaker 1: minus six and a half. That's the Monday nighter next week.

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01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: That is you got it seven and one two, three,

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01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: four or five, six, seven, seven and seven. Even Stephen,

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01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: it was a battle that was tough on you. The

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01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: most absurd one to me one horrific line, the Jags lines.

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01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: The Jags line makes no sense. I don't understand it.

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01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,479
Speaker 1: So that's one of those ones where all everyone's gonna

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01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: say Giants. Everybody, so how is it possibly Giants? But

1280
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: yet you can't overthink it. Jackson has been brutal for

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01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: a month, brutal. There will be a ton of Giant

1282
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: fans at that game, and there I don't even know

1283
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: if there's even any such thing as home field advantage

1284
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL. There's gonna be all the money in

1285
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: the world on the Giants though, all of it, all

1286
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: of it, And so it's like, what are we missing there? Man?

1287
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: That was a really hard one for me to wrap

1288
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: my head around. I think there's some honestly, guys, as

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01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: good as a great week Guys, just right ahead and

1290
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: give a for all of the greatness of last weekend.

1291
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: The college football Saturday was incredible. Uh, the NFL Sunday

1292
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: was awesome. It's not great. There's not is there a

1293
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: game on here where you're like, I'm stopping what I'm doing.

1294
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: This might look it's gonna be in the seventies. This

1295
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: might be fall Fest Pumpkin Apple cider Day for the

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: you of the kids. Um, outside of our game, which

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01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna be dialed into. Other than that, there's nothing

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01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: here you need to see. Zago and I were having

1299
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: this conversation earlier, um our friends in northwest Ohio not

1300
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: going to get Brown's Ravens. Okay, So I saw that.

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: And so when we're when we're up at the condo

1302
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: up at the lake, like even in the preseason sometimes

1303
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: when that used to be an issue and they had

1304
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: to pick one or the other, a lot of times

1305
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,959
Speaker 1: they would go Lions over over Brown's and that Katabas

1306
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: and Dusky. All that area is big Browns, correct, But

1307
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: what is Toledo. I don't know where their loyalties are.

1308
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: So it was great when I lived in Bowling Green.

1309
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: You'd get to Toledo stations plus the Cleveland stations, so

1310
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: like you could get if you had a certain cable

1311
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: you could you could get every game that you want

1312
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,479
Speaker 1: them all. Yeah, this is a weird twist this week.

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01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: Lions Cowboys is the a game for CBS nance Romo,

1314
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: the one in four hey Man camera Lions. Well because

1315
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: bumping Brown's Ravens. Because it's also one o'clock game. Here's

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01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: the one thing I don't understand though, and I saw

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01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: some tweets about it from there. When I was at

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01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: the CBS in Columbus, we could choose Bengals are Browns

1319
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: every week. In fact, the general manager would come down

1320
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: and go, what do you think, guys, And the general

1321
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: rule of thumb, based on the ratings in Columbus was

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01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: unless it was Bengals Steelers, you showed the brown Even

1323
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: when the Bengals were good and we were not, you

1324
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: would still show the Browns because there were more Browns

1325
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: fans in Columbus than Bengals fans. But the combination of

1326
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: Bengals and Steelers would usurp Browns. That was that was

1327
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: our general rule of thumb. So what I don't understand

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01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: is I'm seeing stuff from Toledo where people are like,

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01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: this is the league's decision, And I don't understand why

1330
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: the league TV people are saying that the NFL. I

1331
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: think they're passing the buck unless something's changed, Because in

1332
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: the market, you would always choose, You'd always be able

1333
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: to choose not any game, but you had a choice

1334
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: of two games. So like I would assume Toledo is

1335
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: very similar to Columbus and that there can pick either

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: Browns or Lions as a as a team of interest.

1337
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: Why so, you've got Lions Cowboys at one o'clock on CBS,

1338
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: which is Nance Romo Chiefs at San Francisco is the

1339
01:07:54,600 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: four Fox National game. Yeah, it's a Fox though they

1340
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: have the double header. Otherwise Nance Romo would be there.

1341
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: But isn't that the a f C team, isn't the

1342
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 1: Remember they got away with that last couple of years,

1343
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 1: they went away with that. They swapped them out. Yeah,

1344
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: in the last two years or so, they've done less

1345
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: of that. Yes, it used to always be that would

1346
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: be Casey at San Francisco would be the Nance Romo game.

1347
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: My guess is what they did. So their choices are

1348
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: because honestly, Lions Cowboys, that's NFC. NFC there, you're there,

1349
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: you're surping even the old A f C CBS. But

1350
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: you have you have Titans Colts for first place in

1351
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: the FC South. But they're not worried about that. What

1352
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: they're worried about is what can I sell for ratings?

1353
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: What is the majority of the country gonna watch? And

1354
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna have Cowboys and dak Back and all that.

1355
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, Tony they have to pay for

1356
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: Tony to get on a private plane to go to

1357
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee just drive over from his house. So my guess

1358
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: is that's how that works. By the way, it says

1359
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: so much about Nance's ability to live at Pebble Beach

1360
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: because you feel like every flight he takes CBS is

1361
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: paying charter, I mean private, like net jets whatever. Like

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01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 1: they're pretty for him to fly that way out of

1363
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: Pebble Beach. There's literally nothing of his work is done

1364
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: on the East Coast. It's worse than flying out of here.

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: I've flown out of Monterey. Congratulations on all your success. Yeah,

1366
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: it's a big time. It's a big time. Yeah. It's

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01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: a nice little airport. That's a delight It's a real

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,160
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1387
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Speaker 1: let's just start with a health report. I guess there

1388
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: was a laundry list earlier in the week. What is

1389
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: it today in terms of your gut feeling on who's

1390
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: in and who's out over there? Yeah, it's tough. It's

1391
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: kind of been like this seems for a well over

1392
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: a year for the Ravens. But um, you know, the

1393
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: the one to watch and I think he's gonna play

1394
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: Sunday I don't think there's any dad He's gonna play,

1395
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: But Lamar Jackson's clearly dealing with something. He's not been

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: on the field for the start of practice for the

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01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: second straight day. UM. He was listed yesterday obviously with

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01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: a hip injury. I think he'll be fine. I think

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01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: he'll play. But anytime you're talking about a guy in

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01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, UM, you know who's dealing with some With

1401
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: the importance of him to the offense and how much

1402
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 1: of the balls in his hands, it's obviously something to

1403
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: watch Mark Andrews for a second straight days out with

1404
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: the knee injury. He hasn't missed a practice all year

1405
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 1: before the other day, so that's you know, has to

1406
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: be something that's bothering him. Um. Yet this feel like

1407
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: that's a concern. At least Hardball dismissed it as a concern,

1408
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: but that's kind of the business they're in. And I'd

1409
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: say it's not looking great for J. K. Dobbins. He's

1410
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: missed the second straight practice. He could not play in

1411
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: the second half Sunday against the Giants because his knee

1412
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: tightened up. UM, So I don't think he'd see him.

1413
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: I would say it's looking a little better for their

1414
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 1: number one receiver or shot Bateman has missed two straight games,

1415
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: but has been practicing these last couple of days, So

1416
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good sign for a Ravens passing

1417
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 1: game that just hasn't been very productive in recent weeks.

1418
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: Beyond Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews is simply sensational though, and

1419
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 1: that's kind of the offense, right It's Lamar does stuff

1420
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: running behind Patrick Ricard, where they run behind him, where

1421
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: they throw it to Mark Andrews. But I'm curious what's

1422
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: kind of the discussion around what's happened kind of in

1423
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: the fourth quarters, not only defensively but also offensively. Lamar

1424
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: struggling last week. Two turnovers on the final two possessions,

1425
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: four picks in the fourth quarter. What what are people

1426
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: making of that? What do you make of it? You know,

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: I just think they're making mistakes. I mean, for a

1428
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: long time, this Ravens team was a team that you

1429
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, not to say they didn't lose games,

1430
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: but you kind of trusted them more often than not

1431
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: to find ways to win and and to play well

1432
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And if they lost, make sure

1433
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: the other team beat them rather than them kind of

1434
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: being the reason they lost. And you know, Ronnie Stanley

1435
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: said it best after the Giants game. I mean, they're

1436
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: their own worst enemies. It's penalties, it's turnovers, it's defensive

1437
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: miscommunications leading the big plays allowed. It's kind of been

1438
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: a perfect storm. I mean, the defense can't get off

1439
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: the field late in games, um, you know, and and

1440
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: the offense hasn't really taken the brunt of the criticism

1441
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: for it, but it probably passed the point where it should.

1442
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: You know, I think they've had fifteen full fourth quarter

1443
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: draw I've um, you know, this season, and they've turned

1444
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: the ball over on six of them. And you know

1445
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: that's not not just interceptions and fumbles. They've also also

1446
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: turned one on downs. So that's almost seven out of

1447
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: fifteen possessions where they're giving the ball up in the

1448
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And that puts the defense in tough spots

1449
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: and and it's tough to win that way, and and

1450
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: it's just you know, penalties, it's just it's been a

1451
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: lack of execution. It's been kind of finding ways to lose,

1452
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, and and where you can't really pinpoint one

1453
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: thing because it's everything you know, other than really special teams,

1454
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: which has been typically good offense defense. Both sides have

1455
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: kind of counting accountability for it because they've had a

1456
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: lot of issues on both sides and latent games. Jeff

1457
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: obviously lamar just incredibly dangerous as he always is with

1458
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: his feet. I'm curious, you know, in terms of the

1459
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: guys next to him, and specifically about j K. Dobbins

1460
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: with it sees that he's been cropped up all week

1461
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: on the injury and there were reports of a re

1462
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: aggravation of the knee. Where is his health and what

1463
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: are his probabilities for Sunday? Yeah, I think we saw it.

1464
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: Um even even when he came back to practice, you

1465
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: could tell like, this isn't the j K. Dobbins that

1466
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: we've seen. It's gonna take Ah, it's gonna take a

1467
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: little while for him to reach that pre injury form.

1468
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't just have the you know, the

1469
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: A c L, you had the L c L, you

1470
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: had you know, a meniscus tear, you had a hamstring care.

1471
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: So he dealt with all this stuff and it was

1472
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: such a serious injury and he wants to play so bad.

1473
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: The kids competitive wants to be out there, has a

1474
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: lot of desire, um, but he's just not himself. And

1475
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: I think the recognition of that Sunday um where he

1476
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: just couldn't go anymore, um, you know in the running

1477
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: game was kind of an admission that suggests where he's

1478
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: at and now not practicing these two days, is you know,

1479
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: another acknowledgement a guy that's uh Dobbin has kind of

1480
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: looked up to and and kind of followed his se

1481
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley. And I think what's significant there is we

1482
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: saw this with Barkley his first year back. He missed

1483
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: the year and he comes back and he just was

1484
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: never the same. He just wasn't running with it. He

1485
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: didn't have the same mobility, he wasn't running with the

1486
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: same power and agility. And that's kind of how I

1487
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: best explained Dobbins. I mean, he he's still effective enough, um,

1488
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: but you're just not seeing that game breaking ability. You're

1489
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: just not consistently seeing that ability to break tackles. And

1490
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: and while I still think he can be serviceable and

1491
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: help them and be a contributor, you're just not seeing

1492
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: that form of a number one back that he's capable

1493
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: of being when he's a healthy and the later it

1494
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: gets you start to wonder whether whether we won't see

1495
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: that until next year when he has another full year

1496
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: removed from that injury. So do you expect Kenyan Drake,

1497
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: who had ten carries over a hundred yards last week

1498
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: in the touchdown against the Giants, to be the guy?

1499
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: Is is just as Hill ready to come back, Is

1500
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: Gus Edwards ready to see action? Yeah, there's no way

1501
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: that Drake. You know, there's a lot of criticism here.

1502
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: Why didn't they get Drake more carries? I think get

1503
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: only eleven carries or whatever, despite rushing for you know,

1504
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: a hundred nineteen yards. I think whole he'll be heavily involved.

1505
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: Justice Hill, who was the most explosive back earlier in

1506
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: the season until he strained his hamstring, He looks like

1507
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: he'll be ready to go for Sunday. Gus Edwards is

1508
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: an interesting one. I think there's definitely a chance of

1509
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: him being activated Sunday um But if he is, I

1510
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect him to have a significant role. Here's another

1511
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: guy hasn't played a game since the you know, the

1512
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty season, So they're gonna have to take

1513
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: it easy with him if if he indeed does play,

1514
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: And the other element of it is the Ravens have

1515
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: a game Thursday night the following Thursday, so there's two

1516
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: games in five days. Kin a player, is it wise

1517
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: to ask us Edwards to play two games in five days?

1518
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that has to be a

1519
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: consideration here. So I would think you'll get heavy dose

1520
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: of you know, um, Justice Hill and Kenyan Drake and

1521
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: then maybe because that were in the mix, or they'll

1522
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: just have you know, Mike Davis continue that role as

1523
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: the number three back. But either way, I can't see

1524
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: the number three back getting a ton of touches here

1525
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: unless something goes wrong. Talk to me about this defense

1526
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: that has also, like the offense, had fourth quarter struggles,

1527
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,879
Speaker 1: especially against the pass um. You know a lot of veterans, obviously,

1528
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: he got three guys with more than ninety career sacks

1529
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: on the team, and Pierre Paul justin Houston if he's

1530
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: able to play this week in Calais, Campbell mixed in

1531
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: with some young guys. The two corners are back coming

1532
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: off of their big injuries. You lost Marcus Williams, who

1533
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: had it was off to a great start for the season.

1534
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: But what's kind of what what's the identity of this defense?

1535
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: What do they do well? Where are they struggling? In

1536
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: your eyes? I think, you know, quietly, because they've struggled

1537
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: late in games in recent weeks, that's kind of obscured

1538
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 1: the fact that the defense is playing much better. I mean, look,

1539
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: you could he couldn't play much worse than they were

1540
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: when they you know, kicked a three touchdown lead against

1541
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and gave up all those points. Um. But

1542
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: still I think, you know, for the most part, they

1543
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: held down the Bills. So maybe the best team in

1544
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: the league. Um, you know they what do I think

1545
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: the Giants? What do they have? Two something two d

1546
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: thirty yards of offense? Though they're doing things better, they

1547
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 1: just got to learn to close games. But where we're

1548
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: seeing improvement is they're just not allowing as many balls

1549
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: to get thrown over their heads. I mean it was

1550
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: ridiculous earlier in the season. They're just giving it way

1551
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: too many big plays. Um. I think that was a

1552
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: function of, you know, he had some young players. There's

1553
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: still some uncertainty there at the third corner spot. After

1554
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller tours a c L in Week one, they're

1555
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: trying to find that guy. Um, They're rotating a lot

1556
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: of young players in that spot, and it seems teams

1557
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 1: they're just picking out that matchup and going to it

1558
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: regularly because they don't want to, you know, challenge Marcus

1559
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: Peters and Marlon Humphrey as much. Um. So I think

1560
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: there there's an issue there. They need to find that

1561
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: third corner. But I think the prominent issue among this

1562
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 1: group is just no consistent pass rush. It's just, you know,

1563
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: and this has been a problem for a couple of

1564
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: years now. They have some guys. I mean da fe Oa,

1565
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: the first round pick last year, has been a big

1566
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: disappointment this year. I think most people thought he'd break out.

1567
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: Um Houston has uh not played much at all, um,

1568
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, because he's been injured. I think Colby back Sunday,

1569
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: we'll see what he does. And you know, Jason Pierre

1570
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: Paul is still working his way into shape again. They

1571
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: have some guys. It's just they haven't been able to

1572
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,480
Speaker 1: get off the field late in games. And that's particularly

1573
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: because they haven't been able to affect the quarterback enough

1574
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: on third down. Jeff, Um, I want to ask you

1575
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 1: about Kyle Hamilton the kid out of Notre Dame who

1576
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: loved him at Notre Dame and felt like he would

1577
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: be another one of those raven guys. And there's a

1578
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: laundry list of them. They draft him, they plug them,

1579
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: and they're big time players. But it hasn't been that way.

1580
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: What what what? What level of concern is are there

1581
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 1: over there to his start in and what is the

1582
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: issue you're seeing? I mean they're saying there's no concern.

1583
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a rookie, he's learning a very um

1584
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: detailed and and complicated defense, um, you know, and he's

1585
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: as safety is a hard position, you know, to play

1586
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: at and to make the transition at. But yeah, I mean,

1587
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: he'd certainly like to see more from Kyle Hamilton's um.

1588
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: You know, he just hasn't been you know, he made

1589
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: one really big play in the New England win, stripping

1590
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: the ball and kind of that was kind of a

1591
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: game saving play for him, So you don't want to

1592
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: totally dismiss that, um, but it just seems to kind

1593
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: of be fighting it a little bit. You know, I

1594
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 1: don't know if pressing is the right word, but he

1595
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 1: seems to be second guessing himself and reacting rather than

1596
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: just trusting what he's seeing and playing. I mean, he's

1597
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: the guy that kind of figured prominently in that fourth quarter, uh,

1598
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, collapsed against the Dolphins where he blew coverage

1599
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: twice and too long touchdowns, and he's just it's taken

1600
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 1: a little while. And I you know what, regardless of

1601
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: what they say, um, I think they expected more immediate

1602
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: contributions and him to be a little more consistent early.

1603
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: Obviously he's a rookie, so he knew that some growing pains.

1604
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: It's taken him a little longer to to beat that guy.

1605
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: And I think they think, I mean, testament is without

1606
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams. Now they're basically starting Geno Stone, who was,

1607
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, a former six and the seventh round pick um.

1608
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: But Stone is just more consistent. They trust him a

1609
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: little bit, right, more now, more than Hamilton's And I

1610
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: think Hamilton's a guy that they'd like to use in

1611
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: matchup situations, which I think they'll continue to do, match

1612
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: him up at times against tight ends, move them around

1613
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 1: and get them close to the line of scrimmage at times.

1614
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: But I still think they're trying to find the best

1615
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: role for him, and they're hoping he just starts playing

1616
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: with a little more confidence. It just seems to me

1617
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: a guy who's been fighting himself a little and questioning

1618
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: himself rather than just relying on his you know, his

1619
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: talent and ability. Yeah, it certainly is. And and usually

1620
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: though I want to ask you one thing before we

1621
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: get you out of here, Pale, and so much of

1622
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: the off season was about Lamar and the contract and

1623
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: all of that. Um, the way he's played. It's obviously

1624
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: we're in the season now and away we go. Is

1625
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: that ever come up over there now we're we're passing.

1626
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: We'll deal with it in the off season. Well, no, yeah,

1627
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: not really. I mean, you know, you guys know how

1628
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: it is. Every game is a referendum on Lamar's desire,

1629
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, Lamar's let's say, you know, his worthiness of

1630
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: getting that type of Lamark contract. But that's how it

1631
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: kind of is. In the Median with fans. You don't

1632
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: hear a whole lot about it here. But you know what,

1633
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, you know, it's always more than media

1634
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: speculation because Lamar never talks about it, and he doesn't

1635
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 1: have an agent who's leaking stuff to the media. So

1636
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: I hate to admit it as a reporter, but you

1637
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: know so little about it and the offer and what

1638
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: he's looking for because there's nobody that brings it up.

1639
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: And since he's negotiating the contract, and since they're dealing

1640
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: with him directly, you know, the Ravens obviously aren't gonna

1641
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: leak anything because they know that that's gonna affect the

1642
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: relationship between him. So this is something that's been kept

1643
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 1: so quiet, even players asking about it. The players don't

1644
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: even know unless Lamar is happened to bring it up,

1645
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: but he really never does so, um, you know, so

1646
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: there's really not a whole lot of talk about that.

1647
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of taking a back seat, um with everything

1648
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 1: else going on this year. But I'll tell you what,

1649
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: and this isn't criticism. I mean, Lamar has done so

1650
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: many amazing things for the team. He's great to watch

1651
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: every week. Without him, it's it's unbelievable, like you don't

1652
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: know where they'd be. Does so much, but they need

1653
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: him to play better. These last three games. He's he's

1654
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, everyone was annointing him as the front or

1655
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: f m v P and sort of these last three

1656
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: games it's just been way too inconsistent. And then yes,

1657
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: he's not dealing with uh beefed up wide receiver group,

1658
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: and yes they've had issues around him. However, they need

1659
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: him to hit the gimmes, make the routine throws, make

1660
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: quicker decisions, protect the ball. Um. You know, in all

1661
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: these games, there's been opportunities for Lamar Jackson to sort

1662
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: of put the hammer down and end these games by now,

1663
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: but he's made mistakes and kind of kept the door

1664
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: open for teams. So, um, you know, I think it

1665
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: comes with the territory. As a friend chesse quarterback, you're

1666
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: gonna get criticized, and and I think it's totally fair

1667
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 1: in Lamar's case. I mean, they need for him to

1668
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: play a little more consistent football, um, you know, And

1669
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: and then I think they'd feel pretty good about where

1670
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 1: they're at from a franchise quarterback to a franchise kicker.

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01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker, he's just unbelievable. The the game winner was

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Speaker 1: against since is that if they kicked the game winner

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Speaker 1: where and he's like bowing at the midfield like you

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01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: just know he's gonna make it. Is it something that's

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01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: his greatness even being taken for granted. And I don't

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01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: mean it to be facetious, but I mean, you're talking

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01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: about a guy who has not missed on seventies six

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01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,759
Speaker 1: straight field goals in the second half of overtime, sixty

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01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: one in the fourth quarter overtime. It's just automatic. Is

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Speaker 1: his greatness? Is it appreciated enough? And just what does

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01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: he mean for this team? Because he's unreal. Yeah, you know,

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01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 1: I I do I you don't want to or you know,

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01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: you don't even play. Clay's Campbell was saying this, you

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01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: just hate to take it for granted because it's hard

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01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: to do. There's a lot of pressure and you know,

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01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: field elements and weather elements, all that goes into kicking.

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01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 1: It's just not easy to consistently jog on the field

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01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: and put it through the uprights, and not to mention

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01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,919
Speaker 1: it as other elements, you know, blocking and holding and snaps.

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01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, he missed the fifty six yard field goal

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Speaker 1: last week in the first quarter, I believe it was,

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01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: and he banged it, jointed it off the left upright.

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01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: It's not like he missed badly, joinked it off the upright,

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01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, what's wrong with this guy? And what's

1695
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: the fifty six yard field goal outdoor, you know, and

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: he's just he spoiled pretty much everybody. Um, I know

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01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: it's been said. It's not me that's said it, but

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01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: it's been said before. But you know, you do wonder,

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01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, is there anybody better at their specific job.

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01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: I know we're always talking about a kickers importance and

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01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: there's still kind of some people that some of their

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01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: knows up at kickers because they're kickers. But you do

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01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: wonder at times is there anybody in the NFL better

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01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: at their particular job than Tucker is at his particular job?

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01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I guess you go to guys like

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01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: Aron Donald and Mahomes and there's certainly arguments to be made,

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01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: but you have to think with the level he does it, Uh,

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01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: he's has to be in that conversation. I mean, and

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01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, we're watching Hall of Fame kicker and there

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01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been too many of those, but his consistency, the

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01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: amount of times he's done it in the clutch, and

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01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: how he's really never lost the level. He's had a

1713
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: couple of rough stretches here and there, which a rough

1714
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: stretch for him is missing like one at every you know,

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01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: handful of kicks, but he's been good solid. He's been

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01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: their most consistent, reliable player every year. It's really something

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01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: to watch, really is Jeff, Thanks for your time, but

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you a great deal. I always enjoyed talking

1719
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: to you guys. Enjoy the game Sunday yep youtwo. That's

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Speaker 1: Jeff's rebac of course. Ravens analyst reporter at the Athletic.

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