WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial:  Kid Cudi Testifies

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It is Friday, May twenty third, the

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<v Speaker 1>second week of testimony, and the Ditty trial is done.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wrapped Thursday with one of the most highly

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<v Speaker 1>anticipated witnesses so far, Kid Cuddy, the rapper who briefly

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<v Speaker 1>dated Cassie Ventura, Ditty's ex girlfriend. And with that, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to this episode of Amy and TJ. Roodes. We continue

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<v Speaker 1>to be, as you put it, the one stop shop

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<v Speaker 1>to get folks caught up so they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>go shopping around a bunch of places with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of reporting on a bunch of testimony.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is what we've been doing to get everyone caught up.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, this was a quite a week. The first

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<v Speaker 2>week was explicit, the second week even more so because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of this testimony backed up and added context

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<v Speaker 2>to what we heard from Cassie Ventur about what she

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<v Speaker 2>claimed she suffered for nearly eleven years at the hands

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<v Speaker 2>of Ditty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good way to put it. She was there

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<v Speaker 1>for three, maybe even four days that she spent time

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<v Speaker 1>on the stand setting a foundation, and now everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>coming in essentially corroborating or at least lending something to

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<v Speaker 1>what she said, Like oh, Yeah, that thing we saw

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<v Speaker 1>Diddy do. That's in line with what Cassie said. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of that. We got sixteen witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>so far. We do. Let you know, testimony is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to start again until next Tuesday. They took off

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<v Speaker 1>for the holiday weekend, but Robes as they wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>the week, I like asking you here, what stood out

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<v Speaker 1>to you from the previous day that we now have

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<v Speaker 1>in the books.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know we had some explosive witnesses, but

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<v Speaker 2>I actually was taken it back by the testimony from

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<v Speaker 2>the general manager of an La hotel. Where did he

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<v Speaker 2>stayed frequently? Where did he apparently had these freak offs frequently?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was blown away that the hotel was so

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<v Speaker 2>aware of the craziness that was going on in these

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<v Speaker 2>hotel rooms that he would book under his alias, that

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<v Speaker 2>they actually had notes in a file with his alias

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<v Speaker 2>name about what to do, how to deal with all

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<v Speaker 2>the craziness, including spring air freshener in the hallways because

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<v Speaker 2>of the smells that were coming out of the room,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they had to shut down the room,

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<v Speaker 2>close it down for reservations after they left because they

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<v Speaker 2>knew they would have to do a deep clean. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the details just go on and on. But these were

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<v Speaker 2>physical notes written in a computer, so that the next

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<v Speaker 2>hotel employee who dealt with Diddy and his gang knew

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<v Speaker 2>how to manage it. And yet none of us knew

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on, And yet so many people were

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<v Speaker 2>aware of what was actually happening.

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<v Speaker 1>He's speaking there of the general manager of a hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of several witnesses on the stand yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>At least four were up there yesterday, among them the

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<v Speaker 1>former assistant. He continued his testimony from the previous day.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he's former assistant George Kaplan is his name. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a makeup artist who used to work for Diddi

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<v Speaker 1>but then ended up working for Cassie. She testify to

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<v Speaker 1>some violence that she saw. And then of course we

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<v Speaker 1>had Kid Cutty. Let's start there. Kid Cutty is a

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<v Speaker 1>Grammy winner. This guy is I'm not sure who compare

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<v Speaker 1>him to in the rap world, but he's for some people.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to do a little bit of a deep dive,

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<v Speaker 1>right he is. He's not a grand, top chart topping

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<v Speaker 1>hit maker type guy. He is more of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that stains in his lane. He's a little he's a

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<v Speaker 1>little more I would say creative. He's outside the box

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<v Speaker 1>of regular hip hop and all, not.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a gangster rap. He's not doing rap beefs with people.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet somehow he got caught up in all of

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<v Speaker 2>this diddy back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>But I had never heard of him.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing. A lot of people don't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to know who he is. And he is well respected

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<v Speaker 1>in that community as being a creative, a really not

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<v Speaker 1>just a raw guy who gets up there. Obviously has talent,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is respected as a creative. We'll give him,

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<v Speaker 1>folks an idea of who this guy is. But he

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<v Speaker 1>walked in Roseman. The first thing that struck me was

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<v Speaker 1>what he was wearing. I mean, he got out of

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<v Speaker 1>the car. This is a very high profile trout, a

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<v Speaker 1>beat up motorcycle jacket, white T shirt, smoking a cigarette,

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<v Speaker 1>walking into.

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<v Speaker 3>The court room, blue jeans on.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how he chose the show. That's him, that's in

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<v Speaker 1>line with him, that's in line with his personality, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think. But that struck me as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, like, where is he going? Is he going

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<v Speaker 1>into a club?

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like he was going into a James dean audition,

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<v Speaker 2>like he really was channeling that casual cool. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>give an f as he was walking in and like

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<v Speaker 2>the cigarette that had to be a choice, right or

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<v Speaker 2>did he just really need a smoke before he walked

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<v Speaker 2>in because he was nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know, but smokers, you never know when they

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<v Speaker 1>need a smoke break, but when they need one, they

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<v Speaker 1>need one. But he walked in completely chilling. But the

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<v Speaker 1>background here of the relevance here robes is that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy who dated Cassie for about a month.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess we've heard heard the story so many

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<v Speaker 1>times at this point of how did he find out

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<v Speaker 1>found out about it? And that's how Cutty finds himself

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<v Speaker 1>in this store.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, so Cassie and did he apparently even though

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<v Speaker 2>they were broken up, were still apparently freaking off. That

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<v Speaker 2>actually was news to me as well. But he's going

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<v Speaker 2>through her phone because he had access to everything that

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<v Speaker 2>was hers and saw email from Cuttie's kid Cutti's assistant

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<v Speaker 2>asking about Cassie's toiletry bag over at Kid Cuttie's place,

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<v Speaker 2>and he went ballistic and the beef started then and

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<v Speaker 2>it got it went just it went from just him

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<v Speaker 2>being angry to him. Actually, according to Kid Cutty and Cassie,

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<v Speaker 2>taking action against the rapper.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where he comes in to play. Here where

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<v Speaker 1>Kid Cutty claims that after this there was a break

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<v Speaker 1>into his home and that somebody torched his car with

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<v Speaker 1>a Molotov cocktail. He believes that Diddy is behind both

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<v Speaker 1>of those. He described an incident in which he got

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone with Ditty and they were telling him

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<v Speaker 1>to come home, like threatening him and telling him to

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<v Speaker 1>come to his own house, say when he got through

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<v Speaker 1>the places trashed? But did he wasn't there? So even

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<v Speaker 1>on the stand telling the story, and maybe we hear

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<v Speaker 1>all this and it pieces together with okay, maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like Diddy or that's in line with some other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They had proved necessarily that Diddy was there, but the

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<v Speaker 1>inference is.

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<v Speaker 2>Clear they might be setting up a way to prove

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<v Speaker 2>it in that there was someone else there.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he? According to Cutty?

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<v Speaker 2>And what we may here next week a woman who

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<v Speaker 2>was his assistant at the time, who were expecting to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the stand on Tuesday. Her name's Capricorn. Hard

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<v Speaker 2>to forget that name, but she apparently was there too,

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<v Speaker 2>So perhaps we will hear from her corroborating what we

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<v Speaker 2>heard from Kid Cutty that yeah, Diddy and his folks

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<v Speaker 2>were there and they opened up his Christmas presents, like

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<v Speaker 2>unwrapped them, locked his dog up, So he was very

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<v Speaker 2>upset about all of that. And of course the Porsche

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<v Speaker 2>incident we heard from Cassie Ventura saying that did he

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<v Speaker 2>when he found out, said I'm going to blow up

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<v Speaker 2>his car? Like actually said that and then lo and

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<v Speaker 2>behold a short time later, Kid Cutty's car actually was

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<v Speaker 2>torched and blew up.

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<v Speaker 1>That lets you know who Kid Cutt he is and

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<v Speaker 1>why he's important to this case. But he got on

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<v Speaker 1>the stand, I think robes and this is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the reason we want to do this these updates we're

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<v Speaker 1>continued to do so throughout the trial is because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times you only see a headline and you

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<v Speaker 1>try to make sense of it. And the headline that

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<v Speaker 1>many of you may have seen already is that Cutt

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<v Speaker 1>he called did he a Marvel super villain? And there's

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<v Speaker 1>some context with that. We got some earlier and piece

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<v Speaker 1>this story together and that sounds like it's clever and

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<v Speaker 1>it's cute and that's funny, but there's a whole lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>To it than that, that's right, because actually when he

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<v Speaker 2>said that in the courtroom from the people who were

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<v Speaker 2>there inside, said, the audience or the folks in the

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<v Speaker 2>courtroom laughed. They were chuckling at what he said. But

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<v Speaker 2>there was really nothing funny about what he was describing.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he went to go meet him to try and

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<v Speaker 2>deal with all of this back and forth and to

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<v Speaker 2>stop any more threats or potential vie olence. And so

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<v Speaker 2>he met him at the Soho house and Cassie was there,

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<v Speaker 2>but he said he was stood there in a silhouette

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<v Speaker 2>with his hands behind his back, standing in a super

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<v Speaker 2>villain position, just to give you an idea. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked to folks who know him and say that's

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<v Speaker 2>right on brand.

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<v Speaker 1>That surprised me. We did. We talked to someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>worked with him over the years and right in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the height of bad Boy and said, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a that's absolutely I recognize it. I know it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it a hundred times. He just and if

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<v Speaker 1>you stop and think about a lot of these Disney movies,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see it. There's some guy standing on a

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<v Speaker 1>window looking out, hands behind his back, some ominous look.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that was something he was known for and

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<v Speaker 1>Diddy regularly did. But he said it in a funny way,

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<v Speaker 1>a Marvel supervillain. But those, you know, super villains are scary.

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<v Speaker 2>They certainly are, and they can do damage and intimidating.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what I took away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just yes, we're hearing about the physical violence and that thrust,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was just a physical intimidation. He knew how

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<v Speaker 2>to stand a certain way, how to look at you

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<v Speaker 2>a certain way, how to just speak volumes, perhaps without

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<v Speaker 2>even saying anything at all. So when Kid Cutty described

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<v Speaker 2>that scene, we can all see it in our heads,

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<v Speaker 2>and it all makes sense that part of the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why the prosecution is trying to set up this case

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<v Speaker 2>of coercion, and a lot of that was with drug use,

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<v Speaker 2>they say, but also just with his the threatening nature

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<v Speaker 2>of who he was and what he said he would do.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cuddy did say they had a meeting did He

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<v Speaker 1>looked to him in the eye, said I'm not responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for any of that stuff. I didn't do it. He

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<v Speaker 1>shook on it. Cut He said, I didn't believe him

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<v Speaker 1>for a second, and then he said several years later,

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<v Speaker 1>they ran into each other and did. He wasn't specific,

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<v Speaker 1>but he apologized for all that bs, all that mess,

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<v Speaker 1>So he took it as an admission, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't specific about Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know something else that just reminded me that Cutty said

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<v Speaker 2>Kid Cutty said that was interesting and perhaps wasn't what

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecution was hoping he would say. But and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how the jury would will take this, but

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<v Speaker 2>he said that both he and Diddy got played by

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie Ventur, so that probably wasn't a I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how big of a strike that was against the prosecution

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<v Speaker 2>and in terms of keeping Cassie Ventor's credibility where they wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>but he certainly felt like he'd been played by her.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they only were together for about a month.

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<v Speaker 2>But he also said he got out of it because

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<v Speaker 2>he just could not deal with all the drama. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you hear him tell his story about

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<v Speaker 2>what that month was like for him and even the

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks that followed, that makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's still to your point about the he said they

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<v Speaker 1>got played. I mean you talk about they try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep up with her credibility, but her culpability is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an issue in this case because they did

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<v Speaker 1>wait all these text messages. She wanted to be there,

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<v Speaker 1>she was initiating, she was leading sometimes, and all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And to hear, yes, her testimony was devastating to hear

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<v Speaker 1>clearly we know and we have seen her be abused,

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<v Speaker 1>but to hear if it a steady drum beat, even

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit here and there of Oh, Cassie's not

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<v Speaker 1>just victims just a victim, She's an accomplice to some degree,

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<v Speaker 1>is what the defense is trying to establish. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that one little comment, yeah, I got played by Cassie

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<v Speaker 1>plays in some way to wonder, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Plays oh you need Yeah, It plants the seat in

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<v Speaker 3>someone's head.

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<v Speaker 2>And you think about that meeting when he came to

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<v Speaker 2>confront Ditty, or at least to try and calm things down.

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<v Speaker 2>She was in the room with them, standing next to Ditty.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is those are all. It seems small and

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<v Speaker 2>potentially insignificant, but it could plant a seed in a

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<v Speaker 2>juror's head.

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<v Speaker 1>The other and we talk about that. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go through some details here now that you all. I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't believe this was from the general manager of

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<v Speaker 1>Lameritage in La a hotel out there. But Frederick Zeemour

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<v Speaker 1>is his name, the general manager. But Robes this blew

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. Talk about culpability, we talk about who did

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<v Speaker 1>all of us in some way allow this to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>In playing sight, this hotel might have some more to

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<v Speaker 1>answer given this testimony.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's right because mister Zmore testify that notes at

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<v Speaker 2>and this is just one hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows what other hotels had.

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<v Speaker 2>But in his hotel there was a note under the

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<v Speaker 2>profile Frank Black, which is the alias that did he

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<v Speaker 2>use when he came to the hotel, and they knew

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<v Speaker 2>exactly who was coming, and so under the name Frank

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<v Speaker 2>Black here were some of the notes. Always spills candle

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<v Speaker 2>wax on everything and uses excessive amounts of oil, so

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<v Speaker 2>even they knew about the baby oil.

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<v Speaker 1>See different we fall probably well, we travel enough to

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<v Speaker 1>where you're at a play or even if you have

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<v Speaker 1>rewards or something like a rowds program, you go to

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel, they have a profile on you that knows

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<v Speaker 1>you like this has a nut allergy if you're there enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that kind of thing. There is a guest profile

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<v Speaker 1>that is warning guest or the hotel employees. This is

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<v Speaker 1>how you handle this guy. This is how he behaves,

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<v Speaker 1>This is how you need to do it. In response,

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<v Speaker 1>why would anybody would kicked out for the behavior right

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<v Speaker 1>what they have in his profile?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you be allowed to return? You know, I imagine

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<v Speaker 2>at a certain point. So to that point, they also

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<v Speaker 2>did say that when you are checking in anyone who's

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<v Speaker 2>checking in Frank Black, you have to authorize an extra

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand dollars when that guest stays with us to

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<v Speaker 2>cover any room damages. So clearly they learned that there

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<v Speaker 2>are massive damages coming.

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<v Speaker 3>So why would you want him back in the hotel?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess because as Sean Diddy comes that, is there

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<v Speaker 1>any other reason that the financial because somebody pays for.

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<v Speaker 2>Hotels, is he paying more than other guests? That makes

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<v Speaker 2>no sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, to your point that I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>ask some more questions of this hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The note also instructs staff to place the room out

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<v Speaker 2>of order upon departure for deep cleaning. Again, that means

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<v Speaker 2>that they can't then have that room available for another guest.

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<v Speaker 2>When you know, late late checkout probably doesn't even matter,

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<v Speaker 2>but to get someone back in right.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine, I mean the punisher called own, Hey, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to need a late checkout.

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<v Speaker 3>We need a late checkout.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you can't have new guests come into that

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<v Speaker 2>room it looks like for another twenty four hours. So

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<v Speaker 2>now you're losing money every time did he comes because

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<v Speaker 2>you can't release the room as normal people do. And

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you told him you got a twelve pm checkout.

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<v Speaker 3>He is not going to be adhering to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what many people who are thinking, when when

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<v Speaker 1>did I stay at that hotel?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I stay in that I did? It did smell

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<v Speaker 1>a little weird.

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<v Speaker 2>People are probably staying in those rooms right now and

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's freaky to use it. I keep using that word.

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<v Speaker 3>Why you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>You use this? Or I did not know? And we

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<v Speaker 1>need to address this. These are freak offs. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>earlier said that someone was freaking off? So can it

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<v Speaker 1>be a verb and a noun?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I feel established, I feel like, yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 1>First time I heard anybody said that was just you

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<v Speaker 1>about five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a slip of the top.

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<v Speaker 1>They were freaking off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a verb now, I mean, I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>an appropriate use of the word what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Later, I'll be freaking off. I'm not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to witch all until maybe next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me know when that's over, because I have

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<v Speaker 2>no desire to be freaking off with anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>My goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the air freshener thing, which I mentioned off

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<v Speaker 3>the top, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently it was so crazy that it seeped out into

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<v Speaker 2>the hallway. I mean, what did it smell like? Does

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<v Speaker 2>baby oil smell a certain way?

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<v Speaker 1>Baby oil, possibly burning candles, sweaty flesh, vomiting.

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<v Speaker 3>She's yes, she said she got sick from all the

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<v Speaker 3>drug use.

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<v Speaker 1>Look y'all, that's urine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh how did we forget that? They're peeing in each

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<v Speaker 2>other's mouths and it spills out into.

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<v Speaker 1>The given that detail, and then oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, it probably

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<v Speaker 2>smelled like a frat house.

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<v Speaker 1>But the note here in quotes it said, please monitor

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<v Speaker 1>outside his room down the hall to spray air freshener.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to monitor a guest room because we

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<v Speaker 1>know all kinds of foolishness. Did they not know something

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<v Speaker 1>illegal was going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I was just wondering is there any culpability speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of culpability from these establishments that are allowing a person

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<v Speaker 2>to come into their establishment and other guests are there,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're responsible for other guests' experiences, other guests safety,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe even the guests he's bringing into the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have any responsibility if something happens at their hotel?

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<v Speaker 3>Why would they continue to let him to.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to claim they didn't know. They have to right,

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to claim they didn't know a llegal activity

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<v Speaker 1>was going on, but they're permitting it. I mean people

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<v Speaker 1>being paid for sex. I believe that's still illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>It is unless you're in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not. But yeah, that was to hear that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really eye opening to hear that they had a

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<v Speaker 1>file essentially and knew how to handle him based on

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<v Speaker 1>these free COFs. The other a significant couple new details

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<v Speaker 1>there from George Kaplan, the former assistant. He had been

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<v Speaker 1>on the stand the previous day, but he wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, but he confirmed the stories that Cassie

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<v Speaker 1>also told. He said he left his job because he

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<v Speaker 1>did witness or be abused on more than one occasion,

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<v Speaker 1>so he wrapped up his testim And again, this is

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<v Speaker 1>another guy we talked about, like many, he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be there and almost wasn't going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>There no, because he genuinely had to incriminate himself with

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<v Speaker 2>drug activity, picking up drugs, bringing the drugs to him

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<v Speaker 2>in order to testify accurately, and so yes, he had

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<v Speaker 2>to get an immunity deal from the judge before he

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<v Speaker 2>even felt comfortable speaking about what he saw, what he witnessed,

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<v Speaker 2>and what he participated in for some of those months.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone else who took the stand that I thought was

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<v Speaker 2>really telling and corroborating for Cassie's story was the makeup

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<v Speaker 2>artist that was a makeup artist for both Sean Diddycomb's

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<v Speaker 2>and for Cassie Ventura Maya Morales. But she actually details

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<v Speaker 2>a very specific event where she was sleeping or napping

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<v Speaker 2>and she heard yelling and it was so significant. Cassie

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<v Speaker 2>comes running in, she's got She said she witnessed a

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<v Speaker 2>black eye, a busted lip, and her injuries were so

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<v Speaker 2>bad that she took her back to her personal home

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<v Speaker 2>and had a friend of hers who was a physician,

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<v Speaker 2>come and examine Cassie and said, you need to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the emergency room, Cassie refused to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>emergency room, refused to call police. And here's this Maya

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<v Speaker 2>Morales and her friend who's a physician. Everyone just stays quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>They're afraid, she said, she was afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have to get into this later. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we could all learn something about this case. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not every instance deals with a guy as powerful as

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<v Speaker 1>a diddy. But to hear the number of people who

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<v Speaker 1>are aware, who were literally there when crimes were taking

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<v Speaker 1>place that they're now describing on a stand and not

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<v Speaker 1>a single person called police. I am not aware of

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<v Speaker 1>this point, at least of a police report that was

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<v Speaker 1>done anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the only time I've even heard so far in

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<v Speaker 2>testimony that there was ever police involved or called was

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<v Speaker 2>when he was standing outside her home with a hammer

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<v Speaker 2>after the video that we all saw. Correct, and her

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<v Speaker 2>friend only called other people in the diddy circle.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know how it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But hours later a police officer showed up and they said,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's wrong, no problem, Naha, We've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to do better. I mean, this is a tough

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<v Speaker 1>lesson for all of us to be learning together. But

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<v Speaker 1>to hear how many, I mean, they're like we could

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<v Speaker 1>probably just start naming up to ten easily. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>more who saw it and no one did anything. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're arguing. There's a powerful guy. We were

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<v Speaker 1>fearful of physical harm, death, all kinds of stuff. That

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, but we got we gotta do better.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. That is one thing that perhaps something good

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<v Speaker 2>that could come out of all of this is just

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<v Speaker 2>I think people don't feel like they have a voice

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<v Speaker 2>or that they will be believed, And perhaps that could

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<v Speaker 2>have been true too.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you're going up someone who's powerful and rich

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<v Speaker 2>and regarded and esteemed and can make or break your

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<v Speaker 2>career and has proven it seems like that he if

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't like you, will seek revenge. If you've angered him,

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<v Speaker 2>he will do something to you. So there is retribution

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<v Speaker 2>for any of that. But my god, you just if

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<v Speaker 2>just one person, and I don't know, like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>trust police in this situation? Do you trust There's that

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<v Speaker 2>whole issue as well, where if you go to police,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you know that did he isn't gonna pay

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<v Speaker 2>them off or have them in your back pocket? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just so many there's so much fear, is so

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<v Speaker 2>it's either motivating or it's crippling, and it looks like

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.359
<v Speaker 2>it crippled so many people for so many years, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are so many victims because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's complex and we get that, but it's just we

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<v Speaker 1>this is a hell of a And again, folks, we

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to update you and do these daily updates

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<v Speaker 1>so the trial, because it is important, we think, to

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<v Speaker 1>get past headlines, to get past baby oil, to get

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<v Speaker 1>past super villain, to get past some of the salaciousness

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<v Speaker 1>in the headlines. But we're going to continue to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what's happening, but I want to keep a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>going with you all as well, so we certainly appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you all listening.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so again, there is no court Friday today, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no court on Monday from Memorial Day, but things will

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<v Speaker 2>resume on Tuesday, and it seems like they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be kicking off with another bang as the prosecution continues

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:24.639
<v Speaker 2>its case against Sean Diddy Coom and we will be

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<v Speaker 2>there with you through it all. Hope you all have

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful weekend.