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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to Danielle with the Stars. I am Danielle Fischl,

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Speaker 1: a TV director, a podcaster.

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Speaker 2: Forever to Panga, and a mom of two.

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Speaker 1: Currently, though I am learning how to ballroom dance one step.

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Speaker 2: At a time.

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Speaker 1: I'm training for Season thirty four of Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 1: premiering September sixteenth on ABC and Disney Plus. And I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be recording this podcast chronicling my journey, giving

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Speaker 1: you the inside story of one celebrities quest for a

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Speaker 1: Mirror Ball Trophy. And right now I am engulfed in rehearsals.

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Speaker 1: I'm practicing every single day, and I figured the best

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Speaker 1: way for me to prep for a victory, because my

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Speaker 1: goal is victory, is to talk to those who have

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Speaker 1: competed before me, and today I am chatting to someone

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Speaker 1: from within the pod meets World Extended Universe. A celebrity

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Speaker 1: dancer who participated in not just one season of Dancing

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Speaker 1: with the Stars, but two. She first competed in season

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Speaker 1: five back in two thousand and seven with partner Mark

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Speaker 1: Ballas and finished seventh place, a result often considered the

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Speaker 1: most shocking and unfair in the show's history.

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Speaker 2: AOL users settled.

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Speaker 1: Down everyone remember it's the year two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 1: even voted it as the most shocking TV moment of

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Speaker 1: the year, and to right the wrong. She would return

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Speaker 1: for season fifteen in twenty twelve, the only all Star

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Speaker 1: incarnation to date, now paired with Louis van Amstell, and

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Speaker 1: she placed eighth eliminated exactly five years to the date

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Speaker 1: she controversially exited back in two thousand and seven, and

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Speaker 1: in between the two appearances, she even went on the

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Speaker 1: road for Dancing with the Stars Live. So if I

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Speaker 1: am going to get advice from anyone, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: starting in the right place. Today on Danielle with the Stars,

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Speaker 1: I am paired with the iconic Cheetah Girl and the

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Speaker 1: co host of the magical rewind podcast. It's Sabrina Brian. Sabrina,

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Speaker 1: I am so happy that you are here to talk

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Speaker 1: with me and help me through this process.

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Speaker 2: I am gonna be honest, I feel.

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Speaker 1: In slightly over my head, So your expert advice is

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Speaker 1: greatly appreciated.

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Speaker 2: I know the feeling. It's it's a bit of an unknown, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've done live TV, so that's not a thing,

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Speaker 2: but it it's you're learning something New Right, and it's

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Speaker 2: like it's really nerve racking. But I will tell you

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Speaker 2: that the pros on this show, they are they're just

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Speaker 2: they're exactly that they're pros, and they will hold your

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Speaker 2: hand and take you through this journey and it's just you.

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Speaker 3: You just have to get ready that.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be one of the most exciting things

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Speaker 2: you've ever done. It's so different, and you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: hooked like you're gonna always want to be in the audience.

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Speaker 2: You are gonna be obsessed with spray tnds. It is

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Speaker 2: like everything like you just will get hooked in this

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Speaker 2: entire world.

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Speaker 3: Believe me, I swear you all.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: I mean you were very kind to give me credit

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Speaker 1: kind of brings me to my next question for you,

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Speaker 1: and I might have a feeling I regret this, but

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Speaker 1: what is your background in dance before you agreed to

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I grew up dancing hip hop, tap okay,

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Speaker 2: ballet jazz from the time you were a little girl.

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Speaker 2: I start or what's actually considered pretty late. I started

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Speaker 2: at seven, Oh, that wasn't too late, but it's it

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Speaker 2: actually now that my daughter is in the world, It's like,

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Speaker 1: That do you think forty four is too late?

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Speaker 2: Not at all okay, because I mean, listen, this show

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Speaker 2: isn't I think what's great is you're entering it during

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Speaker 2: this isn't even fair. She can dance, and it's like

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Speaker 2: I can dance, but my habits. First of all, I

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: I know the choreography? Why am I gonna you know?

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Speaker 2: learning ballroom in Latin is being as a woman and

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Speaker 2: being in the man's frame. You're supposed to be led

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Speaker 2: And that was really hard for me for timing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I had Mark Ballast my first season, and what was

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Speaker 2: When he was in London. He was teaching a lot,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how to communicate what he's trying to get out

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Speaker 2: You're like, talk to me like I'm for There's.

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Speaker 3: Nothing that gives you more patience than handling kids.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So that was really amazing, and he was really

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Speaker 3: So it was just it. But you'll see everyone has

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Speaker 2: But you'll see regardless, everyone's journey involves creating a relationship

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned you were in one of the earlier seasons.

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Speaker 1: You were originally on the fifth season of the show

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Speaker 2: I think for learning helped me. I there's something I

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Speaker 2: think this is what is great with athletes that joined

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Speaker 2: that memory aspect is what I think people who don't

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Speaker 2: The fears cha cha and the fun you know, passo

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Speaker 1: That is I'm so glad you said that. That is

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Speaker 2: How do they leave?

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Speaker 2: And now? And I'm sore. I'm just sore.

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Speaker 1: I've been practicing and okay, I'm akey.

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Speaker 2: It hurts, it all hurts. Oh well, it's gonna get

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Speaker 2: They used to watch the show. They're not as avid anymore.

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Speaker 2: I mean these the audience. You can't really ask for

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Speaker 2: a better Dancing the Stars audience. They are invested, right

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Speaker 2: They they love it?

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Speaker 3: Yes, they do.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I can't wait to get to know them too. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So had you you said you did it for your mom?

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Speaker 1: Your mom was obviously a fan. Had you watched the

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Speaker 2: No, I it was this was back when the show

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Speaker 1: You scored a twenty six out of thirty in week one,

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Speaker 2: At that point. Sometimes you know, when you get into

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Speaker 3: Could have it turned out fine. Our jive looked.

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Speaker 2: Great, but it could have been it could have been

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Speaker 2: That one. Really I don't know if you can get

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Speaker 2: So it's good to and your pro I'm sure will

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Speaker 2: I've been to the taping since and you just see

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Speaker 2: When did you know that Mark was your partner? When

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Speaker 1: I meant howling early in the process. I think we worked.

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00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: I want to say it was three weeks before the premiere. Okay, okay?

437
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: And they did they film you finding out Mark was

438
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: your partner?

439
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: They did? And again, I only this is gonna sound terrible.

440
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: The only partner I partners I knew of was more

441
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: of the women partners. Those are the ones I was watching, right,

442
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: So Cheryl Burke, Juliana Off and then the only one

443
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: that I knew of male wise was Max and Louis

444
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: van Am Still. Okay, I don't even know why I

445
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: knew of them, but they must have had good partners

446
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: the season before or something. But those are the only two.

447
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: So he walked in and he was just like a

448
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: brand new person. I had never seen him before. He

449
00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 2: could have walked right by me, right, So he was new.

450
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: But it was cool because he was young, and I

451
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 2: liked that. I wasn't gonna it wasn't gonna feel like

452
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: too much of a like an age gap, you know,

453
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: because again I didn't know how how old that any

454
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: of the pros were, you know, right, So it was

455
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: right there, you know, first meeting, and I wore everyone

456
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: else in my season was like dressed ready to like

457
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: start dancing. I wore like an outfit. And then I

458
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 2: was like, oh, nice to meet you. Oh I probably

459
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 2: should go change because he started teaching you all. I'm

460
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 2: in like jeans and heels, and I'm.

461
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: Like, I'm gonna go get I did bring dance.

462
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: Clothes, so I'm gonna go change.

463
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: My gosh, dance clothes. What even our dance clothes?

464
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: When I am gonna send you some with you to

465
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: start your rehearsal process, you have a dance okay, yes, yes.

466
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: Some cute awesome stuff.

467
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 2: It feels good, it feels sexy. So when you get

468
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: into that, you need to get into that like gral

469
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 2: part of the cha cha oh gosh, you know all

470
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: of that. It's gonna give you just that little bit

471
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: of an umph. So I'll get you some sobery apparel. Absolutely, Okay,

472
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: thank you. I'm gonna send him, thank you.

473
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: Okay, looking back, now, what do you think made Mark? Like,

474
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: what are some specific qualities that made Mark such a

475
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: good partner? And what are some qualities you had that

476
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: made you a good partner?

477
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: Oh, there's so many to talk about Marx creative. I

478
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: feel really lucky because it was his first season, so

479
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: he was kind of just really staying in the realm

480
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 2: of Latin dancing. So when you on the floor that

481
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: they do, I don't think it happens as often, but

482
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 2: there's like in ballroom, you can only go through the

483
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: outside perimeter of the ballroom and to cut through you

484
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: have to hit the center and then can go to

485
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: the side.

486
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: There's all these rules.

487
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: So he was so I mean, Mark's parents are very

488
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: His mom specifically is like one of the most well

489
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: known Latin ballroom instructors, like across the world, So he

490
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: was just everything. He was so detailed, and he even

491
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: was teaching me where the chacha comes from started in Cuba,

492
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: Like I was learning like everything, Like I was learning

493
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: all this stuff that I probably didn't need, but it

494
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: was great to know it. So he was so informative.

495
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: He had so much energy and the desire to just

496
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: make this the most epic season, you know, for me

497
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: and for both of us. And so he was really

498
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: great with that. And I loved his level of creativity.

499
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: And now since he's broken out of maybe the box

500
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: of what he thought he had to be in the

501
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: first couple seasons, he went on to do some of

502
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: the most incredible routines on the show that I just

503
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: think the show has ever seen. So it was great

504
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 2: and awesome to be like there on his first begins

505
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: and then later on watch his journey just like explode.

506
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: So his creativity I think is one of the great.

507
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: And then there you'll notice, like if you ever dance

508
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: with like forever whatever reason, maybe in a group dance

509
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: or something, and you get paired with someone else, yeah,

510
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: to do a couple of eight counts or whatever. I

511
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: really loved how he was able to lead me some

512
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: dancers and I've danced I've had a chance because I

513
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: did so much with dancing with the stars in Vegas,

514
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: on cruise ships and everything that I've danced with a

515
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: lot of them and some of them tend to like

516
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: fling you, or some of them are are so strong

517
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: that you feel like you're just being like grunted to

518
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: a place. He was just the perfect for me as

519
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: far as getting me where I needed to go, having

520
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: the power behind it, but it not ever feeling like

521
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: it was overwhelming me. Okay good, which I would have

522
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: never known that hit the first season because he was

523
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: the only one I danced with. It's like you get

524
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: you know, right, like having a first kid, you just

525
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: kind of you would just go with it, yeah, and

526
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: then the second time you're like, oh, I've been through

527
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: this before. Yeah yeah, and then oh I and then

528
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: you start seeing the differences. But those were my things

529
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: for me. I think the ability for me to really

530
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: lock in during rehearsals, like I was not somebody that

531
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: you'll see I've seen on the show partners that tend

532
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 2: to you know, even though I had so much going on,

533
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't somebody who would get like distracted, like oh

534
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: my phone, or or if I was tired, that wouldn't

535
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: make me want to go like oh can I use

536
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: the restroom and you're like you just did five minutes ago,

537
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 2: or or water breaks or anything like I was. I

538
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: feel like for him, it was great that he had

539
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: my full attention. I was hitting him right at that

540
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: halfway mark and ready to go as long as we

541
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: had to do what we needed to do to get

542
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: it right, and we really melded that way. That was

543
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: like good for him to not have someone who he

544
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: was like pulling teeth, like can you please care about

545
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: this exactly? You don't have the choreography, Let's do it again.

546
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: He never had to do that with me. I was like,

547
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: he's like, you want to do it again? And I

548
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: was like yes, dood yeah. It was always you know,

549
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: and not just because I was trained, because I actually

550
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: really really wanted to. I also wanted it to be

551
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: as perfect as possible. Well, I want to jump ahead.

552
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: Speaking of perfect, I want to jump to week four.

553
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: You had been safe from elimination every week, never scoring

554
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: below that twenty six, and then it happened. It's pasa

555
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: doblay you spin me right round.

556
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: You get the.

557
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: Shows first ever perfect thirty. I'm sure you must have

558
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: felt good rehearsing that one throughout the week, like you

559
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: just knew. Oh, I'm I'm locked in on this. But

560
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: did you ever think a perfect thirty was possible?

561
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 2: No, no, that it was. At that point, I just

562
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: was so scared if my again, because I didn't have

563
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: the fan base that so many I mean Marie Osmond,

564
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: think about how much it wouldn't have maybe mattered what

565
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: she did out there. Her fans are avid, they were

566
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: going to keep her on the show as long as

567
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: they could, right, So mine was just wanting it to

568
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: be as good as possible so that my score would

569
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: be high enough that no matter like hopefully that the

570
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: votes that did come in would just keep me going.

571
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: I knew my fan base wasn't anywhere near pretty much

572
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: the majority of the team like the cast I was on,

573
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: if not everyone, if I was not actually the lowest

574
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: fan base on the on the show, but we actually

575
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: funny story, I don't think I've ever told this, There

576
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: was a point where I think passa dobly might have

577
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: been that week I had to go to New York

578
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: because I do remember rehearsing that Dad in New York.

579
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: And I remember at one point, because you know Mark

580
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: would film or whatever, he came in and was like, yeah,

581
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: I'm scratching like that, and I'm like, like, would what

582
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: does that mean? He was like from this point like

583
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: I like the beginning and I like the end, but

584
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: like all this in the middle, we're gonna we're gonna

585
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: rework it.

586
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my gosh, you're out of town,

587
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: you're working on something else, and now you have to

588
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: relearn brand new choreography for the middle of a dance.

589
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: And the thing is, I do know he wouldn't have

590
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: done that if I was a partner that he didn't

591
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: think couldn't take that on. So I do. It's not

592
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: that he didn't trust. It was like, and that's that's

593
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: what I was gonna say, is is I fully trusted him.

594
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: If he knew if he thought I could do it,

595
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: then I was pretty convinced I could. At this point,

596
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: we had known each other for like almost two months,

597
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: and he knew my work ethic, he knew the abilities

598
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: of things that I could and couldn't do. So if

599
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: he felt like he could do this, and it was

600
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, gonna make it better.

601
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: I was like, I, let's do it. I'm exhausted, but

602
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: let's go, you know. And so it was pretty awesome,

603
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: I you know, the whole. I loved that song. It

604
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: was a song that I don't know if anyone really knows.

605
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: And I have you put yours in? You get to

606
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: put in like song requests, Yes, yeah, a list, right,

607
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: I put in maybe forty songs. I then find out

608
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: Joey Fatone, who's you know, I got to know him

609
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: later on through the Dancing with the Stars world, he

610
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: put in like two hundred and fifty songs. I put

611
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: in like forty songs, just forty of my favorite songs,

612
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: forty songs that I thought were great. Knowing absolutely nothing

613
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: about Latin ballroom, knowing that a chacha has to have

614
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: a certain kind of thing, a mambo, a salsa, all

615
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: of those dances have to have certain like specifics within

616
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: their their musicality. So but I put in and this

617
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: happened to be one of the songs that I put in.

618
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: It's been a song, a favorite song of mine. So

619
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: I loved it, and it was awesome to learn choreography

620
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: to it. But yeah, that week, actually during the rehearsal.

621
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: They used to let you do what Latin and ballroom

622
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: dancers do at a real competition, where your walkout isn't

623
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: just walk walk walk, and you get in your first position,

624
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: you do like a spin and a drop and this

625
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: and that and at this and that and that and

626
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: then it's like this whole thing you do, Like it

627
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: was like a two eight count thing that we would

628
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: learn to walk out, and it wasn't ever filmed. They

629
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: never showed on the camera, but uh, it was something

630
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: that we would do. He wanted to do for the audience,

631
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: and so him and Derek both did these things.

632
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: Like I remember Jenny going, why do.

633
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: I have to learn extra stuff that I'm not gonna

634
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: No one's gonna see. What's even gonna saw? The audience

635
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: is gonna see the ballroom. This is how we're set

636
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: in the stage for what we're about to do. Okay.

637
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: So I loved it because it was so dramatic and

638
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: totally what I love. But there was one part and

639
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't remember if it was in that that thing

640
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: or if it was at the end, but I like,

641
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: did this thing and I, oh it's at the end.

642
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: I slide through.

643
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: His legs and I'm like like literally like wrapping around

644
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: and I'm like it's like a little snake going through

645
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: his legs and then I landed on the ground. Well

646
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: in the rehearsal, you know, you do the whole show,

647
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: the the what is it dressed camera blocking? Yeah, the

648
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: camera blocking, and I like, my, I mean to the

649
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: point where my whole face mad because I had gobs

650
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: and gobs of makeup like you do on the show,

651
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: was on his leg like he I hit it so

652
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: hard and I remember being so mad at him because

653
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: him and Derek could not stop laughing. And meanwhile, my

654
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: eyes are watering. I I might have a broken nose,

655
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: but they are cracking up because I'm like, you know,

656
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: not so much pain. I knew it wasn't broken, but it, yeah,

657
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: like not comfortable.

658
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: It knocked me silly a little bit.

659
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: And him and Derek are just just laughing so hard,

660
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is it funny? I was like

661
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: totally like a toddler, like my toddler, now, like my,

662
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: it's not funny, And he just could not get him

663
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: sell together and him and Derek together have this ridiculous

664
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: laugh that just they keep themselves laughing, and I remember that.

665
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking I'm not all I'm worried about pretty

666
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: much that whole routine is not smacking my face on

667
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: his inner thigh.

668
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: Have that happen on live TV?

669
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Please? God, don't let that happen, please please. So I

670
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: think at the end of it, I was just happy

671
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: that I made it through and I didn't get my

672
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: face mask put on his inner thigh at that point?

673
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: What would the like rumors be at that point?

674
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: So that was during a camera blocking. Did you ever

675
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: have during a life taping any sort of wardrobe malfunction

676
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: or the music stopped playing, any sort of thing that

677
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: maybe the audience wouldn't notice, but that you noticed.

678
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: I did my second time on this show. I had

679
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: during the all Stone, I could feel I had to

680
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: stop wearing. They put these pads in your top, yeah,

681
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: and your cleavage and you it's on the side right, okay, so,

682
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: which looks really nice, but when you have if you're

683
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: more busty than the average actress, which you and I

684
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: both are, I had to ask them to stop putting

685
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: those in because, you know, the it was just it

686
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: was too scary. It felt like they were out. But

687
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: then I feel like there's one. It was actually my

688
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: passo the second time, which is funny. We're talking about

689
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: where I had a spaghetti strap and my my strap

690
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: went down and I could feel like I had to

691
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: like quickly get it, and you can't really see it

692
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: from the camera angles. But I came back and I

693
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: was pretty sure I was gonna I had a nip slip.

694
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: And I came back to Tom Bergern and I was like, whoop, uh, Yeah,

695
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: that was really fun, Like, oh my gosh, I felt

696
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: so exposed because it's not just the people in the room,

697
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: it's millions wive TV and I, you know, so that

698
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: I think from then on there, I was like, again, guys,

699
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: I think we put these, you know, because a lot

700
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: of times your Mike packs in there too. Yeah. Right.

701
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: It also feels like maybe we could just also double

702
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: stick everything so that if a strap does break.

703
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: At least you are double stickware.

704
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if strap breaks.

705
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: You're moving and grooving. You're going so fast, it's like,

706
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: you know, and and the girls sometimes just do what

707
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: they want. Yeah, there's no controlling them, but what we're

708
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: gonna do, you know, come on, they wanted their moment

709
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: in the spotlight. What are we gonna say, I guess

710
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: so they're like, you didn't show us first season, so

711
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: here we go.

712
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, because there's always been just

713
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: such a buzz around Dancing with the Stars and relationships

714
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: people I know, were there any relationships during your first

715
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: season or your second season for that matter, that you

716
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: were away?

717
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: No? Okay, no, if anything. Honestly, again, season five, everyone

718
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: was really kind of cessing out. So I'm not saying

719
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: that there wasn't things happening, but like an actual, full blown,

720
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: blown relationship. No, but it was definitely a cast that

721
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: was very young. We were not after we were done

722
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: rehearsing than going to whatever, you know, industry party or whatever.

723
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: We were all hitting up the same club, we were

724
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: all going back to the same house, and we were

725
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: just literally having the time of our lives, knowing like

726
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: this was such a cool experience. So we were all

727
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: hanging out and it was just fun everything about it.

728
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: I mean for me to be able to say, for

729
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: however many weeks straight, I hung out at Melby, a

730
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: spice girl's house, after we went to hide and had

731
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: fun and hung I mean, it was match the time

732
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: of your life. I was twenty three. Yeah, there was

733
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: no better time, Like that was just the best, most

734
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: exciting to you. What that is how I feel now

735
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: at forty four when I'm in bed by nine pm

736
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: and I'd taken a melatonin and I know I don't

737
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: have to wake up until five am.

738
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: Oh I can't wait.

739
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. But again, different climate. I mean, I think the

740
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 2: show has just become so much different now, and I think,

741
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: you know, not that not that everyone's not having fun.

742
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: I just oh, yeah, it's just like evolved into so

743
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: much of a different situation, totally totally.

744
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: You were also, like you said, you were twenty three

745
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: at the time. You were probably single at the time.

746
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: It's a little different when you're a forty four year

747
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: old married mother.

748
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: Of two, you know, joining the show.

749
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: So it's it's all just I think back to that

750
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: time for you, and I think I remember what it

751
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: was like to be twenty three and just gosh, to

752
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: have that experience at that age, what a time will

753
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: be alive.

754
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: Five years later.

755
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: Even me just having like in a relationship my boyfriend

756
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: and he was up there living with me while I

757
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: was on this show, that was a different experience. Now

758
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: being married and having two kids like that would have

759
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: been on the show now would be a totally different

760
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, exactly.

761
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: Well, I want to get to the elimination heard around

762
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: the world. It's week six and you get your lowest score,

763
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: which is a twenty five.

764
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: Damn that twenty five, and boom you're gone.

765
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: Can I before I ask you what your thoughts are

766
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: on why it happened, can I tell you.

767
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: My theory here?

768
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: Sure?

769
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: So.

770
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: My theory is that people watching had seen you kill

771
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: it week after week and just totally assumed there was

772
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: no reason they had to vote for you because you

773
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: were gonna be safe for sure. I know you probably

774
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: also feel like because you feel like you had maybe

775
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: a smaller fan base than the Wayne Newton's and the

776
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Marie Osmond's and maybe everybody else on the show. I

777
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: just think it's the fact that you were so darn

778
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: good they figured you were safe no matter what.

779
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that would. I mean, that's kind

780
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: of the mindset that that I have, that they were,

781
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: you know, because at that point of the show, you know,

782
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: as always, someone's got to go, and so there I

783
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: feel like their votes were going towards somebody they were

784
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: a little bit more worried about with a lower score

785
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: that they were more worried about, you know, saving versus

786
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 2: thinking they had to for me. But that just goes

787
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: to show like that's how the show works. You have

788
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: to vote for who you want to see that next week, right,

789
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily vote for who you're trying to save.

790
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: Right, don't don't try to outsmart the system. Just vote

791
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: for who you want to see the next week. Yes,

792
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: and and you know and again too. I mean that again,

793
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: that was why my mindset was I had to have

794
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: those high scores to hopefully help me, because even if

795
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: I had everyone voting for me, how big was my

796
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: vote level compared to everyone else. But I will say,

797
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean what I was told by my publicists at

798
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: the time was like listen because you know, she let

799
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: me have my I mean.

800
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: Mark and I were devastated. I was gonna say, you

801
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: had to have been crushed. I was devastated for Mark

802
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: because I felt like I let him down. You know,

803
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: this was a season that he could have come in

804
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: and made it to the finals his first season as

805
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: a pro, and how big would that be? You know,

806
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 2: I think Juliane Huff had just done it the season

807
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: before with Apollo and they actually won, and so I

808
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 2: felt really bad for him. I obviously really wanted it,

809
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: but for me it was like I was leaving there

810
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: and then in a couple of months going to India

811
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: to do to do Cheetah Girls three. I had my

812
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: my career was moving, you know, and I felt bad

813
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: because this was the start of his and I knew

814
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: he needed to really make a big splash to get

815
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: all the things that his music and everything, and our

816
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: time coming to an end, like thinking like, oh my gosh,

817
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: like this is this is done. I loved being on

818
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: the show. I loved my rehearsal schedule. I am a

819
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: person that loves being busy, psychotically busy.

820
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: I love that, you know.

821
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: And so it was just like, wow, I had other

822
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: stuff to do with the Cheeta Girls. Like I said,

823
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: we had just released our album, so there was lots

824
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: to do. But I was getting to dance and I

825
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: really fell in love with ballroom and Latin dancing. I

826
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: just did. And so it was like we were working

827
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: our next routine. That week was when we were going

828
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: to start doing two of them, and I had already

829
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: picked out my costume for the next week, not because Okay,

830
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: let me give a prep. Guys, don't come at me.

831
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 2: Not because I thought I was gonna make it. That's

832
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: just what you do while you're working on one routine.

833
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: As you're entering the end of that week and you're

834
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: getting to the the taping and the actual show, they

835
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: start having you look at material, start designing your costumes.

836
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: The crew has a lot of work to do to

837
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: get everything.

838
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: This wasn't me being like, oh, I decided no because

839
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: I because I'll make it. It wasn't that. It was

840
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: that's the course of the scheduling, and so I had

841
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: already picked out my costume. I had already known what

842
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: the design was going to be. I remember it was

843
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: going to be like, uh, was it Christian do or

844
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: it was some kind of like designer material that they

845
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: were getting me, And it was beautiful. I knew my

846
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: dance song, Mark was my dance song. It was for

847
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: a mambo. I was going to do a mambo, which

848
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: I really wanted to do because I wanted to learn

849
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: botchakata is so bad and I still am obsessed with them.

850
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: You don't know what. I don't know what about chakata is.

851
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: I can't explain it because I don't really hundred percent

852
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: know it, but I really wanted to learn those and

853
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: the like where you like they go like they circle

854
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: in and then they move out, and then you circle

855
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: in and then you move out, like that whole thing.

856
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: I wanted to learn all of that. I was really

857
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: excited about the mombo choreography, and then we also had

858
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: an Argentine tango coming up, so those were two styles

859
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: I was dying to learn.

860
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 3: And so that was a disappointment.

861
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: You know, just your whole life is like swept up

862
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: in this just big, awesome experience and then when you

863
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: realize and it's and trying to hold it together on

864
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: camera too, which luckily I've got the Disney training of

865
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: like keeping it like just because I want. If I

866
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: could have, I would have just instantly cried, but I

867
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: just kind of held it together and tried to be

868
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: as gracious as possible for the for the journey and

869
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: the experience that I did have. You know what, it

870
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: felt like, what a once in a lifetime opportunity.

871
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: And so it was.

872
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 2: It was sad, and we, I mean Mark and I bawled.

873
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: We were the last to leave the trailers that night.

874
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: On week six, tom berdrown when he was hosting, would

875
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: do this big party where everyone he invites all the

876
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: cast members to come to this big mid season party.

877
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: We pulled our together.

878
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: To that party and then you get, you know, to

879
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: be embraced by Melby and Max and you know, Elio

880
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: and everyone that was on the show and all the pros,

881
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: Cheryl Burke, everyone being embraced. Being like I, they were

882
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: just as shocked as I think the rest of who

883
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: was watching was that was.

884
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: A that was a really hard day.

885
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: And then you go, you know, on a red eye

886
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: to Good Morning America and you gotta just like save

887
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: face and feel, you know, do the interview and that's

888
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: your exit interview and then it's done, and you know,

889
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: but then luckily I had this. The fans created a petition.

890
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: They try these fans they were called at that point,

891
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: they had they were nicknamed Team Sabrina had caught petitioned

892
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 2: a whole They had a whole thing going around getting

893
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: signatures and they got tons of them to get me

894
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: back on the show. They thought they could like convince ABC,

895
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: Oh no, just just just put her back, shout it,

896
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: just put her back in and know. But what was

897
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: great was we had already had talks about Mark and

898
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: I joining the tour. So that was nice to know that, like,

899
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: this wasn't one hundred percent the end of our Dancing

900
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: with the Stars journey. Okay, that at least is a

901
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: little bit of a consolation.

902
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, and we.

903
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 2: Then we got to go back and do a routine

904
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: with Avril Levine to promote the we did. We performed

905
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: with Avril Levine, who I was a giant fan of.

906
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: Of course it was Mark.

907
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: She was singing while we were dancing, and it was

908
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: all to promote the tour. I ended up getting a

909
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: really great, you know, all around awesome thing. And I

910
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: honestly think I got more press out of that elimination

911
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: than I would have than anyone would have ever cared

912
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: if I actually got to the finals and or won, Like,

913
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: no one really cared as much as my elimination bothered them,

914
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: Your negativity was better.

915
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Team Sabrina may not have been able to

916
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: get their way and get you reinstated on the show

917
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: the following week, but they did bring you back for

918
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: season fifteen, the only All Star season they've ever done

919
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: with some of their favorites returning. Was that an immediate

920
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: yes from you well.

921
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: It was yes. I mean I was doing Dancing with

922
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: the Stars live in Las Vegas with Joey Fatone, Kyle Massey,

923
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: and Carson Kresley. We were doing a show at the Tropicana,

924
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: which I feel so honored now because it's gone, I know,

925
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: And we did a whole ninety minute Dancing with the

926
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: Stars show with a ton of amazing pros, and you

927
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 2: know they would have like Kim Johnson, some people would

928
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: come in and out and do like little stays for

929
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 2: like a week, and so we were all there together.

930
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: Joey gets the call to do All Star seasons. So

931
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: then now I'm waiting by my phone, not praying more

932
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: than I probably ever had for any other job for

933
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: my phone call to happen. And then as we're like

934
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: like kind of finishing up our stay, I get a

935
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: call from the talent coordinator there and she says, how

936
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: would you feel about joining the All Star team? And

937
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, yes, I've been waiting for this call. Yes, absolutely,

938
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: and she goes, well, hold on, this is this is

939
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: what we're doing that's going to be special. We're going

940
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: to put three of.

941
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: Our Dancing with the Stars faves up.

942
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 2: And the audience and the our fans are going to

943
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: be able to vote in which of the three of

944
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: you they want to compete.

945
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's not even a guaranteed. Yes, you're

946
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: not back to being voted on.

947
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: It's against my three people that haven't gotten the call

948
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: in Vegas. It's against Kyle Massey and Carson Kresley and me.

949
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: So then they come up. We do this whole different

950
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: kind of video campaign. Mine looked very presidential. I had

951
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 2: my glasses on and we did like a whole fun

952
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: campaign to get votes to happen, and they were commercials

953
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 2: and everything on the website and just it was kind

954
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 2: of fun to do. Is an extra thing. And then

955
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: she called me when I got home, so we didn't know.

956
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: After we left, we finished our time out in Vegas,

957
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: and then when I got home, like that first week,

958
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: she called me and they had a film crew there

959
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: filming me. They never showed it, but they had a

960
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: film crew there filming me, you know, getting the call,

961
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: and I'm going, I gotta like be super excited or

962
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, I understand congratulations, that a whole respectful and

963
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: luckily she said, you you know, the votes were they

964
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: were in and they were.

965
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: We were not expecting them to be this overwhelm.

966
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: It was so great for us to know that the

967
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: fan base is still dying for you to be back

968
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: on the show. Will you do it? And I was

969
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: like one hundred times, yes, I will be there today

970
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: is rehearsal today. Wow. Wow.

971
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: Well you had a new partner, you were with Louis

972
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: van Amstell that time, and yet again you got a

973
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: perfect thirty during week six and you were atop the

974
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: leaderboard for two weeks. Did it feel like you were

975
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: finally getting a fair shake this time or not so much?

976
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, first of all, everyone on the cast

977
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: pretty much had made at least the final, if not

978
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: won their season. There wasn't very many of us that

979
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: went out like I did. But it was just exciting,

980
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: Like it was just again, it was different. I was

981
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: now in a relationship. I was five years older. I was,

982
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, twenty seven at this time, and I feel

983
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 2: like I just really took in everything so much more.

984
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: I took I was a much sure way of looking

985
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: at it. It was I had Louie, who again is

986
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: an extreme I mean in the world of ballroom he

987
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: is like the top notch Louie was just I've just

988
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: felt so lucky I got. I mean, all of the

989
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: pros are so good, but you know, when you get

990
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: to really look into the background of your own pro

991
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: you just have so much respect for them. And I

992
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: will say his teaching methods were different than than Mark.

993
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: They were equally amazing, but they were different. So it

994
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: was cool, yeah, to be.

995
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: Taught by someone different who comes from a different like

996
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: background of how he trains. But our last routine, our rumba,

997
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: was actually his routine that he competed his last season

998
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: of competing with his partner. It was like his last

999
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: goodbye dance type thing, that rumba. And when he told

1000
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: me he wanted me to do it, I just was like,

1001
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: are you that seems like a really big deal.

1002
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: Are you sure?

1003
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: And He's like, I wouldn't trust this routine with anyone

1004
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: else besides you and my other partner. And it was

1005
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: like I remember crying and being so you know, and

1006
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: it just that made that dance a lot more special.

1007
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: The package was its own kind of emotional situation. But

1008
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: this for Louie, for me to him to give this

1009
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: and trust me with that was crazy for me, and

1010
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: I even my dress was even very similar to what

1011
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: she wore when she would compete, So it's kind of

1012
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: like a like an homage to her from him. So

1013
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: it was very cool, beautiful. Yeah.

1014
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: Well, finally, Sabrina, you have already given me so much

1015
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: amazing advice so that I am so happy that I

1016
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: now have. But now that I am just weeks away

1017
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: from ballroom dancing for the first time in front of

1018
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: millions of people, if you could just tell me one

1019
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: thing doesn't have to be deep or meaningful, If you

1020
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: could just tell me one thing that, like you think

1021
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: is the most important thing to take into going into

1022
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: the season of Dancing with the Stars.

1023
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: What would it be? Oh? Man, I think soak it in,

1024
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: you know, because the unknown is so huge. I don't

1025
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: and you I don't even know if you know how

1026
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: the show's gonna work out as far as the first week.

1027
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes everyone goes through the second week. Sometimes they have

1028
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: eliminations first week, right, You just really it's a show

1029
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: that you really don't know what the next week is.

1030
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Take it from me. At that point, I was feeling

1031
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: pretty good that we were gonna have a chance, a

1032
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: bigger chance than than the week. That next week, and

1033
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: then I got eliminated. And it's like, don't let yourself

1034
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: get comfortable every time you step out on that stage.

1035
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: Stay focused with your partner, but take a minute to

1036
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 2: scan that that vision, that full blown just like mental

1037
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: picture of what that's like, because it just when it

1038
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: is done, whether you go through vinyls and you win it,

1039
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: it's still just something you cannot recreate, you know, So

1040
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: just take it in and enjoy it and the like, Listen,

1041
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: the bumps are gonna go. You're gonna possibly, you know,

1042
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: disagree or just have a bad day. I mean listen,

1043
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: you're a mom. That could happen, and that could happen

1044
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: on the car ride there, you know, so you're gonna

1045
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: have give yourself grace because that is you're human and

1046
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: that's what happens. But take it in because it was

1047
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: really such an incredible experience and it's something you're gonna

1048
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: look back and like I said, you're gonna have video

1049
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: of it. You're gonna have so much well I don't

1050
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: know how much they let you take, but it looks

1051
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: like on Instagram you can really have your phone freely

1052
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: taking video and doing fun stuff. Do all of it.

1053
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 2: Whatever the do all of the fun stuff. Get into

1054
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: I know you're not as big like well, I know,

1055
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: I guess I'm thinking will but like get into the

1056
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: tiktoks with the kids, like with the young, the young

1057
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: and thes. Yes, if I were to go on it now,

1058
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: if they asked me to do anything, Sabrina slide down

1059
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: the band's fair Okay, ok here, like do it all

1060
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: because it's just so fun and like I said, they

1061
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: have and make it the best experience.

1062
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: And take hot baths that night.

1063
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: Okay hot, Okay, thank you? I like that one too

1064
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: insulted and all the things. And you know, I mean,

1065
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: those dancers know how to take care of their body.

1066
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: So if your pro has like a a tip, take it.

1067
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: Take it will give you the longevity you need and

1068
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: I'll see you at the finals. I love it. I

1069
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: have to come watch you. This is I'm begging you.

1070
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: Please please come anyway.

1071
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: I have to any week, and do it earlier than later,

1072
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: because you never know how long I'm going to be there,

1073
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: so please please come.

1074
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: Well, the first week I probably won't because there's every

1075
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: single contestant has like eight people in the audience, so

1076
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: there's like no place but hotfully By like week two

1077
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: or three, I can hop in and and come see you,

1078
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 2: and oh, I'm just so excited for you, girl.

1079
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: This is gonna be so magical, it really is.

1080
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: And just thank you.

1081
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: Lean in and enjoy it. It's gonna be so fun.

1082
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1083
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: I want everyone to know you are a dance coach. Now,

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Speaker 1: So if I ever have a last minute question or

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Speaker 1: a concern about where I'm supposed to put my hands,

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Speaker 1: if I call.

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Speaker 2: You, will you please pick up the phone. Absolutely. We've

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Speaker 2: now are able to do sessions over zoom, so I

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Speaker 2: could even honestly, if you're having a hard time memory,

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Speaker 2: which I think is one of the hardest things, I

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Speaker 2: will sit there and I've got patients like crazy of

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Speaker 2: We'll do it four counts at a time. We'll do

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Speaker 2: it four counts, and we'll add and add and add,

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Speaker 2: and we can just drill it that way, so you know,

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Speaker 2: next time you see your partner, you've got your actual

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Speaker 2: steps in. I love this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I might be hiring you as my my pro

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Speaker 1: beyond the pro I really.

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Speaker 2: Like to know. I'm not a pro. I just could

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Speaker 2: I have memory. I have a good aspect of memory,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily technique. That will be your pro, but I

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Speaker 2: can help you remember just get it like muscle memory.

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Speaker 2: I love that. And where how can people find your

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Speaker 2: dance clothing line as well? It's at sobriofficial dot com

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Speaker 2: s A b r I right, s A b r I,

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Speaker 2: and we're on Instagram that there you can kind of

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Speaker 2: see everything, and that's at sobre Dance Underscore Official. Well Sabrina,

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Speaker 2: I am so grateful and so appreciative that you came

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Speaker 2: on and just thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I feel better after talking to you, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to embrace all the aspects of it, all the craziness,

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Speaker 1: and just do my best to soak it in.

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Speaker 2: So thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and best of luck.

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Speaker 1: Break a lash girl, break a lash and I'll see

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Speaker 1: you in the audience in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely say yeah, by bye.