1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: That Uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 3: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 3: You love sandwiches. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Huh. Let's go to eighty. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: Wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had a crush on 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 3: Betty Rubbell. 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black. 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: the game. You're listening to to goatsen Company. The Great 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: Mike Francessa is with us. What is on our minds 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: this morning? We have a lot on our minds this morning. Mike. 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: We'll get to it a second. The Mike Francessa Podcast. 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Check it out wherever you get your podcast, Mike, let's 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: start here. It's the obvious place to start today. Put 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: us there. When you saw Chris Russo, your former partner, 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: at cept a half court shop before a college basketball game, 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: would you. 20 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: Think, listen, I knew there was no chance. Plus I've 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 4: seen that form before, so you know, listen. Dog is 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: in very good shape for his age. He has run 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: his whole life. He is a good tennis player. He's 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 4: not a bad golfer. He's not a great athlete. He's 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 4: not a great baseball player, basketball player. He's a pretty 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: good guy. He's a good golfer, and he's a very 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: good tennis player. And he can get anything he can. 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: He's tireless, he can run all day and he and 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 4: he's in very good shape for his age. He really is. 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: But he's not overly coordinated. 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 5: I did that at an overtime elite event. They just 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 5: pulled me out at half time and said, hey, do 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 5: a half court shot. I haven't tried a half court 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 5: shot in forever. It was the most embarrassing thing I've 35 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 5: ever done in my life. Yes, unless he was actually practicing, 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 5: it's hard. 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 4: No, it's hard. It's hard to get to get it 38 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: to the rim. And as you get older and you 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: have less less flexibility, it's much harder to get this 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 4: ball like far. It really is. So that's not an 41 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: easy show. 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Yes. 43 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: I texted him just to make sure he's okay, because 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: it seems like he tore an achilles or maybe tour 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: in a cl and he said it was bad, Mike, 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: He said it was bad. 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: Guys like dog don't get hurt. 48 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: Mike, what do you make here before we get to 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: some college football, what the Mets are doing and some 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: NFL stuff, What do you make here of changes as 51 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: they continue to try to replace you and Christopher mad 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: Doug we're so at w FA N. What do you 53 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: make of the change the recent changes here at w 54 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: FA N where Craig cart is coming back now for 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 2: a third time. 56 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 4: I don't ever comment on f A N. I never 57 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: have since I left, I never will. So their lineup 58 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: is their lineup. I feel fair badly for anybody who 59 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: lost their job. I don't want to see anybody out 60 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 4: of work. That would be my only motivation. As far 61 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: as the lineup, you know, more power to him, good 62 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: luck to them. That's it. I don't have any comment. 63 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: I don't ever comment on anything fa N. 64 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Does, right, Okay, totally fair. 65 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Who would you like to see the New York Giants 66 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: hire as their next head coach? 67 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Mike? 68 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 4: You know that is a I would say this. They 69 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: need a guy badly with experience. That place is a mess. 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: They need a guy who's going to say two feet 71 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: on the floor, I straight ahead, Okay. They need a 72 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 4: disciplinarian in a time when disciplinarians are few and far between. 73 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: I would say, if Baltimore ever gets crazy and gets 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: rid of John Hobbwall, I would jump on him in 75 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: one second. I don't think Mike Tomlin is going to 76 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: be free. The Marriages and the Ruins are one family, 77 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: so they know everything that goes on inside the two franchises. 78 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: They're intermarried and they're really one big family. They've been 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: like that forever, so there's no secrets between Pittsburgh and 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: the Giants. If the Giants hired him, it would be 81 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: with the stealer his blessing. I think they need an 82 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: experienced guy. I'm not a huge Mike McCarthy fan, but 83 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: I think in this case, the Giants need an experienced 84 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: head coach. I don't think they can run the risk 85 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 4: of somebody who hasn't done it before in the NFL. 86 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: I think they need a very experienced hand. That would 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 4: be my wants for them, and I think it's their 88 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 4: need in a big way. 89 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: So Mike, you would not be a fan of them. 90 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: Let's just say it's Marcus Freeman. That's not the guy 91 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: you're thinking of there. 92 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: Nope, I think he's the same as a coordinator. I 93 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: don't I don't you can't tell me a college coach 94 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 4: you're going to be successful in the NFL. I can 95 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: give you a hundred examples on a big one named 96 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: Irvin Meyer, but Nick Saban go down the line. I 97 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: don't think that's automatic in any way. I think any listen, 98 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: any coordinator, no matter what his resume is, okay, is 99 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: a crop shoot. I always go back to this. The 100 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 4: two greatest candidates in my lifetime to be head coaches 101 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: as coordinators where Bill Onnsboger, who was Don Shuler's co 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: coach and the defensive mastermind of the great Dolphin teams. 103 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: He came to the Giants as a head coach. Everyone said, oh, 104 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 4: we got the guy, we got the guy, We got 105 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 4: the guy who went seven and twenty four as a 106 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: Giant head coach. 107 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 108 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: The other is North Turner because he was two nice 109 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 4: a guy to be a head coach. He was a 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: great offensive coordinator. To be a head coach, you can't 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: be a nice guy. You have to understand that your 112 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: job is completely different. You now run everything. You are 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: a generalist and you are a leader, and if you're 114 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 4: not that, you're never going to be a good head coach. 115 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 5: Mike the Knicks seemed to sort of establish themselves early 116 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: on as probably top two in the East. Right now 117 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 5: they're onto the semifinals in the NBA Cup. 118 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. 119 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: See that's a joke. I wouldn't even knowledge it. If 120 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: they at my backyard. They played at my backyard, I 121 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: draw the blind. 122 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah you have to because the court would be super bright. 123 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 5: Uh but yeah, So forget about the NBA Cup. But 124 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 5: the Knicks in general, what have they done to make 125 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 5: you believe they're better than last year and can go 126 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 5: further than last year? 127 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 4: Really not much. I'll tell you why. They have one 128 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: unfixable problem and it will cost them in the playoffs. 129 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: Now listen, nobody's beating okay. See anyway, all right, unless 130 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: they have, you know, a bus wreck, nobody's beating. Okay. 131 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: See it's not it's not happening. Everyone should have known 132 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 4: that going into the year. Uh, that was going to 133 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: be the case. I mean, at seventy games were an 134 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: absolute lock. There's no one even close. Uh, so you're 135 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: playing for a chance to get to the finals. Would 136 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: be a big deal, I mean a really big deal. 137 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: If they could make the finals. The problem is when 138 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: they have Brunson and Town sound on the court at 139 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: the same time. They are among the worst defensive teams 140 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: in the world. Uh, and they cannot fix that. There 141 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: is no way. Their wings can't fix it. Bridges can't 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: fix it. Oh g can't fix it. Robinson can't fix it. 143 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: Nobody can fix it when they're both on this floor. 144 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: So you have to really do a very, very cagy 145 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: job of maximizing both those two players minutes and keeping 146 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: them away from each other as much as humanly possible. 147 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 6: Hey, Mike Taylor from Rock and County first time, long time. 148 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: That's a boy. 149 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: That's how you do it. It's Mike, got a car 150 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: phone today, let's go. 151 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 6: If the Knicks do win the NBA Cup, you can't 152 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 6: put that banner up in the garden. 153 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: Right if they do, it as complete embarrassment for the 154 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: banners that are already there. Listen, the NBA has huge 155 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 4: problems right now. First of all, this cup thing is 156 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: a joke. 157 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: It is. 158 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: It just tells you how much they have the value 159 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: their own regular season. Number two, you can't schedule back 160 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: to back to the NBA anymore when nobody's gonna play 161 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: in the games. Okay, it's not fair to the fans. 162 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: It's not fair to your customers. It's not fair to anybody. 163 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: The league has an enormous issue. Nobody knows when anybody's 164 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: gonna play anymore. You cannot have a sport where you 165 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: don't know if the players are gonna play, and for 166 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: no reason. I mean, an injury is an injury, Okay, 167 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: guys out, he's out. Okay, But you can't for no 168 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: reason because oh, here we are, and we decided tonight 169 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: we're not starting these four players. They are not playing. 170 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 4: You can't have the sport run that way. It is 171 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: a disgrace. 172 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? 173 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 2: Is he Mike's calling your your beloved NBA your It's 174 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: your favorite sport. You've covered it forever. He is saying, 175 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: the NBA right now is a disgrace. How do you 176 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: feel about that? 177 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: Regular season? 178 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm with you, Mike, listen, regular season. 179 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I should have said it better. I am 180 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: with you. 181 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: It's a complete disgrace. I don't care about the NBA 182 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: to the playoffs roll around. 183 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: I can't argue. 184 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: I can't argue with him because this is the main 185 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 5: problem that the NBA has. 186 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Back in the watch play all the time, and. 187 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: They lost Christmas. I mean they even the NBA came 188 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: and took Christmas from them. 189 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: The NFL is the worst. 190 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I came in and took Christmas from them, 191 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: So I mean that's it. I mean they even lost 192 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,479 Speaker 4: there one day that they shined. I mean they lost Christmas. 193 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: The regular season. They know this is a propt Listen, 194 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: they make so much money, the players and the owners, 195 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: And I understand nobody cuts schedules ever because owners will 196 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,239 Speaker 4: not cut schedules unless they get concessions from the players. 197 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: But the players and the owners in the NBA have 198 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: got to cut the regular season schedule. It is the 199 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: only answer. 200 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: Uh, Mike, curious what you think about Okac and Shay Alexander. 201 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: Shake goes Alexander being the champs right now because it 202 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 5: ticks me off, Mike when I see people praise Shay's game, 203 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 5: and every single time it's a shoulder bump and then 204 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 5: which looks like an off defensive foul, and then the 205 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 5: jump shot and back when I used to watch basketball, 206 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 5: you should actually have to make a move to get 207 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: a shot off, And that just ticks me off. 208 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: And I don't think they're great champions. 209 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: Listen. All you can do is win the championship when 210 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 4: you're playing. There's nothing else you could do. There's no 211 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: other there's no other grounds for it. Okay, if you 212 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: want to be the Celtics, the Russell Celtics and say, 213 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: oh I think the Bulls had it soft, we'll find 214 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: nobody cares. Same thing. If okay, see wins four championships 215 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: in a row or five championships in a row, history 216 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 4: is going to be very good to them. You can 217 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: only win against the people you're playing against. There's nothing 218 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: else you can do. You can't win against ghosts, you 219 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: can't win against guys who retired, you can't win against 220 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 4: teams that aren't here. All you can do is play 221 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: what's in the league. That's all anybody can do at 222 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: any given time. So I don't think it's a valid argument. 223 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 6: I don't, Hey, Mike, Pete Alonso's going to the Orioles 224 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 6: five year deal, one hundred and fifty five million dollar deal. 225 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 6: It seems like Mets fans are panicking and freaking out 226 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 6: on social media. But this this management has kind of 227 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 6: been tipping their hand that they don't really value Pete Alonzo. 228 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 6: So I'm curious your thoughts there. 229 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: Pete Alonzo knew the entire year that the Mets were 230 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: never going past three years. They knew the Sterns has 231 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: made that abundantly clear. Anybody around the Mets knew it. 232 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 4: He was never, ever, not last year, this year, ever 233 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: given Pete a contract past three years. He didn't believe 234 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 4: in the long term. He thought he was going to 235 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: age badly. That has been his opinion. He also thinks 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 4: that he's a poor defender. And listen, Sterns has been 237 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: wanting to blow this team up since he got here. 238 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: He had to wait because they had a very good 239 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 4: first year, so he had a weight. They wanted to 240 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: get rid of Nemo and his defense. They wanted to 241 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: get rid of Pete. They didn't want to get rid 242 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: of the Es. They misplayed that. I think they know 243 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 4: that they wanted him back. They would have gone higher. 244 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 4: They would have gone higher the Dodgers. I think it's 245 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 4: a big loss. Okay. I don't like Williams even little. 246 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: I hated Williams with the Yankees, and I think they'll 247 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: hate him with the with the Mets. Uh. He is 248 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: not a ray of sunshine to say the least. I 249 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: UH don't I'm not a fan of his. I think 250 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 4: Diaz is an enormous loss. But here's the deal. Give 251 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: Sterns credit for this. And he keeps very much to 252 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: himself and to his counsel. His opinion is what he 253 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: wants and his little guys that he has in his 254 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: room locked away. He doesn't care what anybody else thinks. 255 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 4: Here's the bottom line. He's in charge. Colan lets him 256 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 4: run the team until he doesn't. That's the way the 257 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,479 Speaker 4: guy manages. That's the way Colan works. Stearns is completely 258 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: in charge. This is his chance. He's put all his 259 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: chips on the table. Now he gets a chance, with 260 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 4: great resources and enormous prospects to build a team. Let's watch. 261 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: I'm fascinated to see what he does. They need a lot, 262 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: they need a lot. They need to make trades, they 263 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: need to sign free agents, they need to make they 264 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: really need to shake the earth here in the next month, 265 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: and I'll be fascinated to see what he does. But 266 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: he has shown conviction. Now let's see if he has 267 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: the talent to build a winner. 268 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: Mike, what do you say to met fans who say 269 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: this is worse than the Willponds? 270 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean. 271 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: If they it's a completely different dynamic. Yes, they have 272 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 4: more resources than anybody. Their owner has twenty three billion dollars, okay, 273 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 4: twenty three billion, and he's willing to spend. It is 274 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: not the Willponds. They do not have any financial issues. 275 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 4: They are loaded. They are loaded with prospects. They are 276 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: loaded with talent. With money, they can buy anybody and 277 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: not blink, as they showed last year. Here's what he 278 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 4: thought Sterns thought. And I don't know, I don't talk 279 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: to This is not this is secondhand, but this is 280 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: what I understand. 281 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much he should. 282 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: He thought he had an overrated team. He thought he 283 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: had a terrible defensive team. He's been wanting to rebuild 284 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: a team. Now he gets to rebuild the team. I 285 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: say this, he has shown conviction, he has shown football. 286 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: Now let me see if he can build a winner. 287 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Mike. 288 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 6: Where I think where I think Sterns went wrong is 289 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 6: it was back to back days losing Diaz and Alonso. 290 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 6: I think, if you are Sterns, you have to give 291 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 6: the Mets fans something in between or just spread out. 292 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, what do you want to give them? Lollipops? 293 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: And what do you want to get the doctor's office. 294 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 4: Yes, he got rid of popular players. You knew when 295 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: Pete left the Mets were going to be mad. The 296 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: Mets fans who are screaming right now will be screaming 297 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 4: with joy if they're in first place in June. Okay, Uh, 298 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: let's see what he builds. He didn't like the caldouts 299 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: last year, he didn't like the defense, he didn't like 300 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: the team. He also screwed up because he did a 301 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: terrible job with the pitching last year. Let's see now 302 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: this team is in his hands. He's got a bunch 303 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: of plays sitting on the table. Let me see if 304 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: he can mole the winner and do it fast, with 305 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: a lot of money and a lot of prospects. 306 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 7: Mike, mikey a on a car phone, first time, long time, 307 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 7: so happy to be talking to you. Listen, George stein 308 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 7: Renner be rolling over in his grave that we didn't 309 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 7: we got this far and we haven't asked the Yankees yet, 310 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 7: that the Mets are are are taken over here as 311 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 7: the talking to York. 312 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 313 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 7: You know what I blame I blame sorry, George, I 314 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 7: blame Brian Cashman. 315 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: I think he played I think he made a panic 316 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: move with Trent Grisham. 317 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 7: It looks like the Yankees have absolutely no idea what 318 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 7: they're gonna do this offseason. 319 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: It looks like Cody Bellinger's on his way out. 320 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 7: What do you mean what the Yankees are doing right now? 321 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: The Yankees believe that Bellinger loved being here, that it 322 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: meant the luck for him with his father to be here. 323 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: He knows he's going to hit more homers in Yankee 324 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: Stadium than anywhere else. The ballparks very friendly for him. 325 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 4: He goes to Queens, He's not going to hit a 326 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 4: lot of home runs. Understand that he's going to play well. 327 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 4: He can play defense, he can play multiple positions. He's 328 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: a pro. He played great to the Yankees last year. 329 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: He fit in seamlessly with the Yankees last year. The 330 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: Yankees are banking that he will return. They will be 331 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: devastated if he doesn't. Mike I know I say this 332 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: the Yankees. The Yankees know they have a lot of pitching. 333 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: I think they need a lot of work in the bullpen. 334 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: And I listen. 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For those who don't know you are 375 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: a passionate college football fan. I believe one of your 376 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: first jobs at sports media was within the world of 377 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: college football. So I am wondering, do you like where 378 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: we're at, Mike, with the twelve team playoffs having a 379 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: select you communion? 380 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: College sports is dead as we know it aout. I 381 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: don't like to as I get older, I don't like 382 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: to kill sports because I think it's just you know, 383 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: but I lived in the house in days for a 384 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 4: lot of these sports. They have destroyed the model they 385 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 4: are using right now in college football and basketball, or 386 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 4: cannot work. It cannot work long time because listen, they 387 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: are no longer college athletes. They are no longer student athletes. 388 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: That's a bunch of crafts. They are completely mercenary gun swingers. 389 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 4: One year guys, there are a bunch of David Coons. 390 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: Is who they are now, Okay, that's who they are. 391 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 4: There are a bunch of If I don't like it here, 392 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: I'll get too millions somewhere else next year. You've got 393 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 4: guys now who are for twenty four playing and they've 394 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: been on fourteens in four years. That's not what the 395 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: idea is. That's why you lost coaches like Jay Wright 396 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: because they want to develop players. You can't develop players 397 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 4: now because If we don't give them what they want, 398 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: they're out. They're gone. They're gone in a year. If 399 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: they don't like the portal or they don't like what 400 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 4: you say to them, they're gone the next year. It's 401 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: a disaster. And now if you are going to have 402 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 4: private equity companies telling college leagues and schools what to do, 403 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: it can't work. It can't work. It's not the idea. Listen, 404 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 4: it's always been a sham. It's always been over Harvard 405 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: Monday to Friday and we're Alabama on Saturday. It's always 406 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: been nonsense. Okay, that's the bottom line. But now it 407 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 4: is nothing but a minor league system. That's all it is. 408 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: And it saves the NFL and the NBA a ton 409 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: of money as they develop talent and also build brands 410 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: on kids who come into those pro league as stars. 411 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: Because of the college games. It is over in the 412 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 4: long term. 413 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. 414 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: And I do like you killing sports because I believe 415 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: you to be the bizarre of sports and so feel 416 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 2: free to kill it. 417 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but the bottom line is, listen. 418 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: Money destroys everything, and listen, I'm a capitalist. I worked 419 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 4: for every I was a fierce negotiator. I fought for 420 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: every dollar I could ever make. I am not a 421 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: I don't begudge anybody a dollar ever. But the money 422 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 4: has gotten so crazy it has destroyed what we all 423 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 4: knew sports to be. And now, listen, these are not 424 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: momonn pop shops anymore. These are not fun teams owned 425 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 4: by one colorful character like a Steinbrenner or a popa 426 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: Hallis or whatever. These are now conglamorous, billion dollars conglamorates 427 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: with hundreds of employees. Hundreds. There are people inside these 428 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 4: teams now who don't even know each other. Okay, that's 429 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 4: how big they are. 430 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 5: Do you think that it dissolves like lack of interest 431 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 5: or do you think that the money people kind of 432 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 5: ruin college sports? 433 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: Are you saying? 434 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: I think? 435 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: I think Fall Street. I think private equity and Wall 436 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: Street will own all the sports within twenty years. 437 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: Wow, I don't disagree, but I think there'll be no. 438 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: There'll be no individual owners except maybe somebody who's like 439 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 4: really really rich who wants to own a team like 440 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 4: the Cone, or somebody who has like Astro, you know, 441 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: or a Dieseos or somebody like that. Otherwise, these teams 442 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 4: are gonna be owned by private equity. They're gonna be 443 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: owned a lot of them are gonna be publicanities. They're 444 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 4: gonna be on the New York Stock Exchange, on the Nasdaq. 445 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 4: They are gonna be They're already multi billion eight These 446 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 4: teams are worth eight and nine and ten billion dollars. 447 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: These are not loming top shops anymore. They're not candy stores. Okay, 448 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 4: they're now multi multi billion dollar businesses. It's a whole 449 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 4: different world. 450 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 6: Mike, Is it jarring for you to see how good 451 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 6: Indiana football is? 452 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: Crazy? 453 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: Now, let me just say one thing, and I have 454 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 4: great respect for Signetti. He's a very, very good and 455 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: unusual coach. Anybody who compares what he's doing to what 456 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 4: a Bill Mallory would have tried to do with Indiana, 457 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: he couldn't do with this guy did. This guy brought 458 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 4: a whole team in Indiana at the same time. Okay, 459 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: you couldn't do that in the old days. Now, kudos 460 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: to him for doing it. Okay, he he brought more 461 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: than a few players with him, a lot of players. 462 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: And now he's brought in a whole bunch of other players. 463 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: And you know what he's done a brilliant job coaching them, 464 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 4: coaching him. I also felt for whatever reason, and I 465 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: don't want to take anything away from the plays they 466 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: made in the clutch, but I don't think that Ohio 467 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: State off the Michigan game knowing they would probably see 468 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 4: Indiana again had their the pedal to the medal in 469 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 4: that game. 470 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: Mike Signetty's on my coaching Matt Rushmore, how about you? 471 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: What do you think me? 472 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: Brilliant? Brilliant? You know I knew his father. 473 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: I don't know him. 474 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 4: I knew his father. He is a He's got a 475 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: very very unique attitude. I have never I don't like 476 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: the comment because I've never been at one of his practices. 477 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: I've never been anywhere near his teams, so I don't 478 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: really feel like I have a real feel for him. 479 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 4: But what he's done is to do it in Indiana 480 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: is equal to what Jim Calhoun did. A you got 481 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: that's right, That's not special it because there were no 482 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: players in the state. There are no basketball there were 483 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: no football players in Yes, to beat Ohio State is 484 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: an incredible achievements, amazing, incredible achievement. 485 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: What did you make of Miami being selected over Notre Dame. 486 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: Did you have a did you have any thoughts on that? 487 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: Well, here was my thoughts. What was the purpose of 488 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 4: the ranking show every week with Notre Dame ahead of 489 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: Miami and then they don't play and then he jumped 490 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: they jumped them. What was the purpose of the ranking 491 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: show for five weeks? 492 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 493 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 4: Why have a ranking show? 494 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: Don't have? 495 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 4: First of all, don't have a ranking show? Secondly, why 496 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: put out rankings every week? And what do they mean 497 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: if Notre Dame watches and they're in five weeks in 498 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 4: a row, they know Miami doesn't play, they don't play, 499 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 4: they think they're ahead of Miami and then they're behind Miami. 500 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: How did that happen? 501 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: You're right, but listen, I'm telling you if the committee 502 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: got together decide. 503 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: How did that happen? Plus what was the parameters that 504 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: allowed them take to take to Lane, take James Madison 505 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: but not take two? 506 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a good point, right, Either they get. 507 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 4: On large slots, so they don't. It was like a 508 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: beauty contest, and then Alabanda could have lost the one 509 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 4: hundred and nothing to Georgia and they would have been 510 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 4: in ridiculous. 511 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: Yes, but Mike, with all that said Mike. Mike, with 512 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: all that. 513 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: Said, if the committee got together and they decide to 514 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: just fuck with a very entitled fan base in Notre 515 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: Dame for the entire. 516 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: Season, I'm good with that, Mike. I have to be 517 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: honest with you. 518 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 4: You know, Hey, listen, you either like or you hate 519 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: Notre Dame. There's no mist people who have said this 520 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: week Notre Dame has no appeal anymore. That's the dumbest 521 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 4: thing I've ever heard in my life. Notre Dame never 522 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: plays in front of an empty seat. They never plays 523 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: in front of an empty seat. And last year the 524 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 4: highest rated quarterfinal was Notre Dame. They were the highest 525 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: rated semi final. They obviously were the final. The bottom 526 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: line is Notre Dame is the only team in the 527 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 4: history of American sport that has had every game in 528 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 4: the last thirty years on national television down to Calfornia. 529 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: Not the New York Yankees. Nobody has ever done that. 530 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: Nobody every game they play is on national television. Nobody 531 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: has ever had what Notre Dame has had. 532 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 6: Like, what do you think the greatest Christmas movie of 533 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 6: all time? 534 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: Is a great question. 535 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: There are very very few good Christmas movies Okay, I 536 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: would say the best Christmas movie in terms of movie 537 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: ever was Love Actually, and I wouldn't even call it 538 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: really a Christmas movie. He's got a couple of Christmas seniors, 539 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 4: but as far as a real Christmas movie, I think 540 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 4: the Christmas movies stink. To be honest with you, I 541 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: don't think there are really any good Christmas movies. I mean, 542 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: you know, Mirk on thirty fourth Streets. Okay, if you're 543 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: six years old, but if you know, if you're not, 544 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: you know, it's not gonna work. That's all there is 545 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 4: to it. You're not, You're gonna be bored to tears. 546 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: I don't I don't think there are. Now, if you 547 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: want to ask me good movies, just go ahead. I mean, 548 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: I'll give it to you in any category. But Christmas movies, 549 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: I don't think there are. And I'm a big movie guy, big. 550 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: Movie guy, all right, So hold on while we're here 551 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: for a second. And now I'm thinking about just talking 552 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: about movies with Mike and weekly basis if that would 553 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: be possible as a very busy man, and he can't 554 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 2: do that, and he wouldn't do that, but I am 555 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: wondering you. 556 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: I won't do anything on a weekly basis, and you 557 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: couldn't afford me anyways to be you. 558 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: Know, listen, we'll take whatever we can get, and we 559 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: love it. I am wondering your best action movie of 560 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: all time? 561 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 4: Action? Yes, well, you know I would call a Western 562 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 4: an action movie, okay, and to me the best that 563 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: the best Western ever shings changed as the old retiring, 564 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 4: you know, falling out a favorite gunslinger who saves the valley. 565 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: That that, to me is the best Western ever. Man 566 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: Shot Liberty Balance is very good, second the best movie 567 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: of all time? Anything close? Okay? And I am not 568 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 4: of the opinion, not of the opinion that too is 569 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 4: anywhere near as good as one Wow? Wow, because because 570 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 4: why is two not anywhere near as good as one? 571 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: Because two doesn't have Brando and Brando made The Godfather. 572 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 4: Patino was great The Godfather, and they didn't want to 573 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 4: cast Brando and they didn't want to cast Patino. I'll 574 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 4: give you, guys a ten episode thing. If you've never 575 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: seen it, it is brilliant television. The offer. 576 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: Oh really, have you ever seen it? No, I've not 577 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: seen it? 578 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: No, okay. It is about the making of the Godfather. 579 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 4: It is one of the best ten episode things I've 580 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: ever seen made. It's made by Tellum is the guy 581 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: who is stars in it, and he kind of produced it. 582 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: It is the story of the Godfather. You know, The 583 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: Godfather had a lot of trouble being made because there 584 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 4: were certain entities that did not want The Godfather to 585 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: be made. Okay, So it was fascinating how they dealt 586 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: with studios and corporations and dealt with New York and 587 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: everything else. And it is, I tell you, it is 588 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: watching the offer, utterly brilliant television. 589 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: Mike. 590 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 6: I'm looking up Shane right now. Nineteen fifty three release 591 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 6: on Rotten Tomatoes. The audience gave it an eighty one percent. 592 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 6: What do you say to people. 593 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: For they're idiots? Yeah, yes, I have never looked at 594 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: a Rotten Tomatoes review in my life. 595 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: Right, Why would you? Right? 596 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 4: How could you listen? If you like what the Weston 597 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 4: is supposed to be about. The aging gunslinger who's going out, 598 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: knows he's going out as time has passed, Alan Land 599 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: playing Shane. Okay, great great movie. 600 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: Mike, best baseball movie all time? 601 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 4: The Dream, Jane, You've never seen Shane. I can't help you. 602 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: We're all going to watch it. Next time we have 603 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: you on, We're gonna come back to you. 604 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 4: Hey, have you never have you never seen Shane? 605 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: No, we never stared at each other on the blank 606 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: stairs us. 607 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 4: The you guys have led a sheltered life. You really 608 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 4: have a sheltered, sheltered life. 609 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. 610 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: Movies, there were so many good movies made in the 611 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 4: nineteen forties and nineteen fifties that are just so good, 612 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 4: so well made, okay, brilliantly directed, you know, uh that 613 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 4: that you got to check them out. 614 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: They're unbelievable, big upset in the last half hours. 615 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 5: You're choosing a rom com for your favorite Christmas movie. 616 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: That one was a bit of a shocker. Oh it's awesome, Yes, 617 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: that is. 618 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 4: I'll tell you Christmas movies stink. Yeah, they're sloped together, 619 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 4: they're sappy, and really they're just you know, they're all 620 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 4: you know one. I think they make them all in 621 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 4: one weekend somewhere in a Hallmark studio in Kansas City. 622 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: Right. But home alone, though, I mean, come on home alone. 623 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean they're terrible. 624 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 4: Listen, Home Alone. It's a good if you know, if 625 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: you're twelve years. 626 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: Old, it's am I am twelve. 627 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: Okay, I agree, okay, But to get the idea that 628 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 4: these stooges don't know how to break into the house, 629 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 4: do I have to watch the same tricks happen for 630 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 4: an hour and a half. 631 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: Stooges is the perfect word, Mike. I'll let you go here. 632 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: Final question, Very Christmas, what else do you want? I'm 633 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: just going to ask you your favorite baseball movie all time. 634 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: I have to think it's Field of Dreams, right of course, Hey, 635 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 2: Field the Dreams? 636 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: What Mike? 637 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't buy into the premise number one. Number two. 638 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 4: If you're going to give me a movie and you 639 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: were going to genuflect the baseball, then how the hell 640 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 4: is Joe Jackson that right handed? 641 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: No, you can't disrespect I get. 642 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 8: A guy there who knew, who was somewhere in the 643 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 8: production company, who knew that Joe Jackson was not He's 644 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 8: only one of the greatest hitters in baseball history. 645 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 4: They're supposed to be genuflecting to the sport of baseball. 646 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 4: They are telling you in there in a solliloquy about 647 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 4: how baseball's history matters as much as the Civil War does. 648 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: And then they have Joe Jackson bat right handed. 649 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 5: They're probably confused because he throws right handed. They didn't 650 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 5: do their research. 651 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. I mean, well lucky he didn't have bab 652 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 4: booth bat in right handed. 653 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: You're more a natural guy, right. 654 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: Good boy. I'll see you guys later. 655 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: Take more time for us, for our nonsense, Mike, We 656 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: love you. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays to you and your family. 657 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll play some golf when you get down here. 658 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe will slee, but