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Speaker 1: to the Around the NFL Podcast. My name's Dan Hansis
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Speaker 1: How about that? Why a little bit of news went
Speaker 1: down in the NFL news that involves a future Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame wide receiver sess Dog feels like something we
Speaker 1: should move up the clock on and have a conversation, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the news broke on Sunday, you know, late
Speaker 1: morning California time, and um, soon after the texts arrived, Like,
Speaker 1: I think we need to move the show up to Monday,
Speaker 1: and you know Mondays in general, I think, are we've
Speaker 1: we've agreed. Um, we're a little little bit maybe not
Speaker 1: high motor um, but we're having to be this morning.
Speaker 1: And there's there's a reason for it. Big news like that,
Speaker 1: Like it's June, and you know what, I remember some
Speaker 1: dunes were like you're in a you're sort of you know,
Speaker 1: and you could be sleeping in the back of your car.
Speaker 1: Not nothing but happen for two weeks. I mean it
Speaker 1: has just been day after day of like NFL drama
Speaker 1: and stuff. So here we go. One worst most like
Speaker 1: wives are significant others would be like, hey, where's my husband?
Speaker 1: But actually, in in Mark's case, smone and he's just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's just Mark. She's like, maybe he's maybe he's in
Speaker 1: the car somewhere. Maybe not, but he'll come back eventually. Eventually,
Speaker 1: he always comes home. Yes, Julio Jones, he's been moved
Speaker 1: in a trade and thinking about this or you know,
Speaker 1: And that's going to be kind of the focus of
Speaker 1: the show. We're gonna hit some news, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a nice conversation about Julio. And it's like I
Speaker 1: think about It's like, what are we here for? If
Speaker 1: you're an NFL team, what are you here for? What?
Speaker 1: What are you trying to win the game? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: what are you trying to do? Like what's the point
Speaker 1: of seven three enterprise? That is running? You play to win? Yes, herm,
Speaker 1: but it's not just win the game, it's win the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Win the damn super Bowl, get to the
Speaker 1: big game, win that one Herm. Maybe that's why the
Speaker 1: Jets didn't win with you, although I did enjoy the
Speaker 1: Herm Edwards experience on balance um. And that's why I
Speaker 1: love what the Tennessee Titans did. They acquire Julio Jones
Speaker 1: um in exchange for a likely late second round pick.
Speaker 1: They also get a fourth round pick. A sixth round
Speaker 1: pick goes back to the Titans as well from the Falcons.
Speaker 1: The Falcons take all that money that they oh Julio,
Speaker 1: send it over to Nashville. It's now the Titans business
Speaker 1: and business is booming. Greg. When you have Julio Jones
Speaker 1: and now a j Brown together, that's nice and that's
Speaker 1: a team great that says we're there, we're there. There's
Speaker 1: not many a f C teams that are in Super
Speaker 1: Bowl contention when you look at it on paper, the
Speaker 1: Titans say we're right there, We're going for it. Gotta
Speaker 1: love the move. I do, and I especially like it
Speaker 1: in this weekend a f C South that we've talked
Speaker 1: about this offseason, where every team you can maybe make
Speaker 1: the argument took a step back, and if the Titans
Speaker 1: can go ahead and win this division, I think this
Speaker 1: move is a nice step toward doing it. Then you
Speaker 1: have a home game to start the playoffs, and the
Speaker 1: Titans have already shown us, like what what can happen
Speaker 1: when you get there? Bravels had a winning record every year.
Speaker 1: He's not about like taking a step back. He's nine
Speaker 1: and seven, nine and seven, eleven and five last year.
Speaker 1: I think their defense on paper, uh, looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: Like they haven't been able to transition to it on
Speaker 1: the field. But the moves they made on paper on
Speaker 1: defensive offseason made sense. Moves on offense didn't make any sense. Uh,
Speaker 1: they looked worse on offense. But suddenly you put Julio
Speaker 1: Jones and A. G. Brown together. They are two of
Speaker 1: the top five receivers in each of the last two
Speaker 1: years in terms of UH yards per route run, so
Speaker 1: basically two of the most efficient receivers in the entire NFL.
Speaker 1: And suddenly Josh Reynolds, who the Titans were trying to
Speaker 1: talk us up as like, hey, we got him from
Speaker 1: the Rams, we kind of like him as a start,
Speaker 1: Hey Anthony Firks or he's actually played pretty well when
Speaker 1: he's given the chance at tight end. They each moved
Speaker 1: down in the pecking order, and then when when you're
Speaker 1: trying to sell Josh Reynolds to me as number three. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm buying that when you're trying to sell Firks or
Speaker 1: matching up against some inside linebacker because you're so worried
Speaker 1: about a J. Brown and Julio Jones on the outside, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can buy that. And suddenly I do like this
Speaker 1: team because I like Julio so much and think he's
Speaker 1: still playing at such a high level as the favor
Speaker 1: in the a f C South. Yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 1: and and also you know, arrow up on Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: because the way the offense looked twenty four hours ago
Speaker 1: before this trade, we were concerned. I mean we mentioned,
Speaker 1: like you said, Greggy in your projected Starters piece, like
Speaker 1: they had lost Corey Davis John hu Smith who combined
Speaker 1: for about a hundred catches and fourteen hundred yards last year. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what essentially Julio Jones and Yard has
Speaker 1: has averaged every year outside of last season, and what
Speaker 1: team faced more doing around the around the horn right now,
Speaker 1: reality would would give you a couple of you go
Speaker 1: get a little point there, replaced the whole statistics like smooth,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I mean I mean I think also we
Speaker 1: were probably concerned about Derrick Henry, you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of overall his workload. It's like when is that going
Speaker 1: to come back to haunt him at some point? But
Speaker 1: the way that you attack the Titans was just basically like,
Speaker 1: go up against go up against Derrick Henry, and if
Speaker 1: you stopped him when he ran for like less than
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifteen yards last year, they were three
Speaker 1: and five, so it looked like that was more that
Speaker 1: was there was more of an an avenue to do
Speaker 1: that now. But now if you're gonna go stack the
Speaker 1: box against Derrick Henry, what are you doing with A. J. Brown?
Speaker 1: What are you doing with Julio Jones? I mean, it
Speaker 1: just becomes an absolute nightmare. And I do love this
Speaker 1: about the Titans. Some teams sort of say we are this,
Speaker 1: and maybe you are, but it doesn't show up on paper.
Speaker 1: The Titans basically say we want to be huge, physical
Speaker 1: and destroy you. Julio Jones is six three two twenty
Speaker 1: A G. Brown is six one, Derrick Henry six and
Speaker 1: coming out you ten thousand miles an hour. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is who the Titans are. And now suddenly we
Speaker 1: have no concerns about their offense. It turns them into
Speaker 1: a legit Super Bowl threat in in a division that
Speaker 1: I think they can probably have the record elevated because
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of trash bags in there. There. There is,
Speaker 1: of course the concern you need Julio Jones to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: He did not stay healthy last year, But Gregg, as
Speaker 1: you pointed out last week, that was the first year
Speaker 1: he's missed extensive action in years and years. But he's
Speaker 1: also a year older, So it's not like a from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of, well, the Titans definitely be better, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd go that far, because you
Speaker 1: still lost Arthur Smith. Um, you still lost John U. Smith. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Corey Davis is not close to Julio Jones um when
Speaker 1: Julio Jones is on the field. But to me, that's
Speaker 1: what it comes down to, because I think even if
Speaker 1: the offensive scheme maybe isn't as explosive as it was,
Speaker 1: or or the mind cooking it up isn't at Smith's level,
Speaker 1: You're still gonna now have this awesome talent here and
Speaker 1: the dynamic duo that you could put up against anyway.
Speaker 1: But it's one of those things like in June, this
Speaker 1: is the perfect trade and the fact that you didn't
Speaker 1: have to give a first rounder. And I guess that
Speaker 1: report that that surface last weekend that they had a
Speaker 1: first round pick trade offer in hand the Falcons was
Speaker 1: all maloney. Um, but we'll see. Maybe maybe someone was
Speaker 1: saying they would give up a first and but you
Speaker 1: have to send a second back, which would be a
Speaker 1: bad job withholding that from the first report. But that's
Speaker 1: what I'm guessing, and probably and probably pay for part
Speaker 1: of Julio Jones contract. Or it was just or it
Speaker 1: was just since there's no GM app, they just floated
Speaker 1: that out in the wind, hoping another team would get
Speaker 1: sucked into it and get into the derby and surrender
Speaker 1: a first round pick. But that's that's my only kind
Speaker 1: of hesitation. Like the yellow light, it's a great move.
Speaker 1: I love that they went for it and are aggressive
Speaker 1: here Tennessee. Uh, but will he be that guy? Will
Speaker 1: we see them on the field? These two tight and
Speaker 1: wide receivers I meant tightened like great players, but they're
Speaker 1: a Titans, yes, Um, so I hope we get seventeen
Speaker 1: games of that. That's where you just got across your
Speaker 1: fingers and hope for some luck. There is some concern
Speaker 1: that Julio Jones has rarely practiced them in the last
Speaker 1: three years, so it's a fair point like he has
Speaker 1: shown up on Sundays, he's always questionable. He never practices.
Speaker 1: I don't know if these NFL teams are at all
Speaker 1: concerned about. He's been quoted in the past being like,
Speaker 1: I'm not really an offseason waits guy. You know, I
Speaker 1: only lift weights when they make me too during the season.
Speaker 1: He obviously is a well conditioned athlete that works out
Speaker 1: and is ready to play football at an extremely high
Speaker 1: level because that's all he's ever done. But for him,
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't been like Tom Brady TV twelve.
Speaker 1: He basically says he only lifts weights when they make
Speaker 1: them too. I don't know if there's some concern that
Speaker 1: he's not going to age well. I do think there
Speaker 1: has to be just inherently a human motivation to make
Speaker 1: this work when you get to Tennessee. Not that he
Speaker 1: wouldn't be motivated in Atlanta, but is in a new spot.
Speaker 1: Uh A. G. Brown pushed to get him there, and
Speaker 1: he has to be thinking like I want to set
Speaker 1: up the next contract. Because there's a couple of more
Speaker 1: things I do want to talk about with Julia, but
Speaker 1: one of them is the money. And I think it's
Speaker 1: been misunderstood that like, oh, you gotta take on Julio's contract, Okay,
Speaker 1: you gotta have the room to take it on this year.
Speaker 1: But everyone should understand Julio Jones has an incredibly good
Speaker 1: contract to take on. Now he might want more money.
Speaker 1: That's I think gonna be a problem down the line
Speaker 1: and is probably why some teams were hesitant. But for
Speaker 1: this year, unless he's insisting on new money this year,
Speaker 1: He's do fifteen million dollars this year. That's it. Like
Speaker 1: you look around the league and who's making fifteen dollars
Speaker 1: million dollars or more at wide receiver. Julio Jones is
Speaker 1: better than most of them. Like, that's the type of
Speaker 1: money Sammy Watkins was making on the open market. That's
Speaker 1: not much more than Corey Davis and Nelson Agilar. We're
Speaker 1: making on the open markets a little more. And then
Speaker 1: in the two years after this one, he's making significantly less.
Speaker 1: And that contract looks amazing. So worst case, if you're
Speaker 1: the Titans, you either have to pay him more money
Speaker 1: when the cap goes up or it doesn't work out
Speaker 1: and he'll he's very easy to get rid of, or
Speaker 1: he's possibly tradeable again. And I don't think the money
Speaker 1: part of it, if you can absorb him this year
Speaker 1: was and it should be a negative at all. That
Speaker 1: was part of the discussion. I didn't totally understand unless
Speaker 1: you're Atlanta, who had kind of boxed themselves in a
Speaker 1: corner and and we're in a bad spot, right because
Speaker 1: I think it's correct, like what you know, I guess
Speaker 1: the premise of our show a lot of times is
Speaker 1: cap space, let's not over worry about it. But Atlanta
Speaker 1: was one of the premise of me. You can go
Speaker 1: against that, well know, because I think I think that
Speaker 1: you claim has missed their cap space. No, it's just not,
Speaker 1: it's just not. It's not like all teams. Atlanta absolutely
Speaker 1: was in a terrible situation. And you know, Arthur Smith,
Speaker 1: who shares the same agent as Julio Jones, I would
Speaker 1: imagine new to some degree what he was dealing with
Speaker 1: when he came into this situation, or maybe he didn't,
Speaker 1: but it shouldn't have been a huge surprise that Julio
Speaker 1: Jones probably wasn't totally happy with the Falcons. That was
Speaker 1: a big part of the reason he got moved. But
Speaker 1: they were the one team that absolutely could not hold
Speaker 1: on to his contract. And that's mismanagement, and that to me,
Speaker 1: says the Falcons like, you know, look at this should
Speaker 1: not have happened this way. I mean, they get they
Speaker 1: get an F grade for me, if you need to
Speaker 1: move on from a player at some point. They were
Speaker 1: in a tough spot this new regime. But to get
Speaker 1: here and to have them inherent this um to me,
Speaker 1: it's just a disastrous exit for Julio Jones. I don't
Speaker 1: think if it were if it worked out and Julio
Speaker 1: Jones helped the Titans get to the a f C
Speaker 1: Championship of the Super Bowl, it's not that different than
Speaker 1: the Raiders trading Randy Moss to the Patriots for a
Speaker 1: fourth rounder. It just isn't. I mean, to me, like
Speaker 1: the regret for the Falcons, if you're a Falcons fan,
Speaker 1: is like, it's not like it didn't have to happen.
Speaker 1: Like I remember reading the article that they could have
Speaker 1: made some other roster moves and down the way right
Speaker 1: there you go Grady Jarrett and just maybe worked out
Speaker 1: an extension with him that spread out his cap and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you you can survive, and
Speaker 1: then you get this opportunity to have your own big
Speaker 1: two with Calvin Riddle and Julio Jones and of course
Speaker 1: the Kyle Pitts, the dynamic rookie tight end nobody can't
Speaker 1: stop talking about. So they had that option. But like
Speaker 1: when Steve Wise, who obviously you know, covers the Falcons,
Speaker 1: so he's plugged in on this, it wasn't just about money.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like a marriage that had run its
Speaker 1: course and he was there at at a time Julio
Speaker 1: wanted out, So there were there were kind of layers
Speaker 1: to this. My other thought like, again, it's a slam
Speaker 1: dunk for the Titans, but when I do when you
Speaker 1: look at his contract, this is his final year that deal,
Speaker 1: the extension he signed in two thousand nineteen. Is that correct? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: so this could be if you're a Titans van and
Speaker 1: you're pinching yourself and you can't wait to see him
Speaker 1: on the field, there is a there's a chance this
Speaker 1: is a one year rental situation too, Like if if
Speaker 1: he because if for a wide receiver that's gonna be
Speaker 1: thirty three next February. Um, if he has a huge season,
Speaker 1: I guess you you're gonna hold on to him. If
Speaker 1: he's kind of in between, they're in a situation where
Speaker 1: they might think, Okay, this isn't somebody what we want
Speaker 1: to do more business with, and you either move on
Speaker 1: or maybe you tag and trade. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I think there is to me, like a coin flip
Speaker 1: chance that he's a one year tight. I think that's
Speaker 1: in play here too. It's possible. Even that possibility I
Speaker 1: think is worth the risk, and it's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why I think trading for these veterans is is
Speaker 1: a different way to team build that I think is
Speaker 1: still undervalued in today's NFL because the Titans weren't the
Speaker 1: only team that could have done it. The Ravens could
Speaker 1: have found a way. The Patriots could have found a way.
Speaker 1: They reportedly just didn't want to pay the money. Um,
Speaker 1: the forty Niners could have found a way if they want.
Speaker 1: And I think there's this idea on draft Day that
Speaker 1: these picks aren't that valuable. Teams will just give up
Speaker 1: whatever whatever for these picks. When it's for a rookie,
Speaker 1: but when it gets into the off season they go crazy.
Speaker 1: I you know, I tweeted about the Jets how they
Speaker 1: traded two thirds to move up nine spots for Elijah
Speaker 1: Verett Sucker. Jets fans got it twisted that I was
Speaker 1: picking on them. He just was like the latest in example.
Speaker 1: I was thinking of using Javonte Williams, which the Broncos, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, traded a fourth to move up five spots
Speaker 1: in the second round. Or you could use the Eagles
Speaker 1: who traded a third to the Cowboys to move up
Speaker 1: two spots in the first round. You could go a
Speaker 1: million different examples. Marcus Davenport when the Saints moved up
Speaker 1: you know, to first, to go up thirteen spots, like
Speaker 1: people do remember that one, and yet you no one
Speaker 1: wants to give up a late first for Julio Joe.
Speaker 1: It's group think and it's it's the off season too.
Speaker 1: It's like they have these rookies that they fall in
Speaker 1: love with on Draft Day, but when it gets to
Speaker 1: the off season, they just don't want to give it up.
Speaker 1: I view I viewed like the draft sort of as
Speaker 1: like when you um, when you're just roaming around town,
Speaker 1: you'd spend like six dollars on a beer, but when
Speaker 1: you're stuck in an airport, you'll happily play fourteen dollars
Speaker 1: for a beer because that's the only way to get it.
Speaker 1: And it's like the draft, the draft circle like puts
Speaker 1: people into a frenzy and a little bit of a
Speaker 1: draft note. I mean, Peter King talked that the Patriots
Speaker 1: did not really have serious interest in Julio Jones. But
Speaker 1: this is the same team where in April Albert Bereer
Speaker 1: reported that Bill Belichick ig Nord team scouts who wanted
Speaker 1: to take a j Brown and Deebo Samuel and took
Speaker 1: nickil Harry instead. So, I mean, I don't quite know
Speaker 1: what is going on with the Patriots. What did the
Speaker 1: Patriots give up for most new second round pick was
Speaker 1: the top of So he's got he's got a little
Speaker 1: bit of a blind spot here at wide receiver. There
Speaker 1: was the report years ago that he didn't love Julio
Speaker 1: Jones as a prospect coming into the league either. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think like I was listening to a podcast recently
Speaker 1: and there it was Barack Obama was talking about how
Speaker 1: he had ascended to the highest office in the land,
Speaker 1: he was the leader of the free world. Now he
Speaker 1: was the president. He figured as he went up the
Speaker 1: ladder of life and and achieved this great position, he
Speaker 1: was going to get and find smarter people and people
Speaker 1: that were like dynamic at all levels. And what he
Speaker 1: found was that like, no, that's not really how it works.
Speaker 1: People move up the ladder, but you're still you're not
Speaker 1: dealing with just because you're at the top of your
Speaker 1: field or the top of the world and this global
Speaker 1: politics game, you're not gonna be surrounded by genius. And
Speaker 1: I'm not like taking taking the piss out of the
Speaker 1: g ms of the world. But like some of these
Speaker 1: guys just like, no, we were not gonna do this
Speaker 1: because nobody else does this. And I think there's some
Speaker 1: group think that kind of invades the way these organizations
Speaker 1: run their operation and it ends up killing them. Because
Speaker 1: I think in three or four months, if Julio stays
Speaker 1: healthy and he's Julio, and I think, you know, here's
Speaker 1: a chance this is gonna happen. He's gonna have a
Speaker 1: big year here. Teams are gonna be kicking themselves. The
Speaker 1: teams like the Ravens, the teams like the Rams, Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey had this. He tweeted this, this is all it
Speaker 1: took for a generational guy, and we were out of
Speaker 1: the Julio sweepstakes. Uh. He tweeted on Sunday, Wow, we
Speaker 1: would have been unstoppable for real with all them weapons.
Speaker 1: L O L. There's gonna be a lot of teams
Speaker 1: that are gonna be thinking that if Jones is a
Speaker 1: superstar this year. That's why it reminds me of Randy
Speaker 1: Moss a little bit too, because his stock was really
Speaker 1: low because it was stuck on a bad Raiders team.
Speaker 1: And I think there was a lot of like all
Speaker 1: these teams are so concerned. I get look at number one.
Speaker 1: This offseason cap scenario was tougher for some teams, but
Speaker 1: anyone can make it work out of slight out of
Speaker 1: like outside of like maybe five or six teams if
Speaker 1: they really wanted to. And on top of it, there
Speaker 1: was this over concern about Julio Jones's health. I mean
Speaker 1: last year, yes, he missed a bunch of games. When
Speaker 1: he played, he was excellent, and if you really go back,
Speaker 1: as we've mentioned, you go back through the years, he
Speaker 1: hasn't missed as much time as sort of general perception
Speaker 1: seemed to suggest, I mean, he's one of the toughest, grittiest,
Speaker 1: most badass guys out there, and like he kind of
Speaker 1: fits perfectly with the Titans. And I think that's why
Speaker 1: it's the Super Bowl. And that's what don't worry about
Speaker 1: two years down line, three years down line. You just
Speaker 1: added this guy who could win you a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and other teams should have been harder in on this.
Speaker 1: I would have given if I was a team that
Speaker 1: figured I'm gonna have a late first round pick. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you're the Rams, well, no, the Rams never have
Speaker 1: first round picks. And that's I think Daleen Ramsey picking
Speaker 1: on the Rams. I mean they've traded that. It gets
Speaker 1: a little tricky for the Rams. They're they're bad example.
Speaker 1: But maybe, uh, I don't know, throw a team out
Speaker 1: there that should have been in this. Ravens don't think
Speaker 1: they should have done it, pulled the trigger. The AFC
Speaker 1: feels and the Chiefs. Maybe it came have come down
Speaker 1: a little bit here. The AFC feels especially wide open
Speaker 1: right now. And uh, the Titans got a lot better
Speaker 1: they did and the Ram. It's funny Ramsey brings up
Speaker 1: the Rams because I think the Rams are a little
Speaker 1: bit at the forefront of thinking about these issues of
Speaker 1: like what's worth more a late first round pick or
Speaker 1: a veteran hand in the bush. I like the Stefon
Speaker 1: Diggs trade has sort of slipped under the radar as
Speaker 1: an unbelievable transaction, which really is similar to the Julio
Speaker 1: Jones and no one picks on the Vikings for it.
Speaker 1: And it's it's not about picking on the Vikings because
Speaker 1: they drafted justin Jefferson. It's more just like they knew
Speaker 1: how good Stefan Diggs when they traded for That's the
Speaker 1: whole thing of trading for the veterans. That's why I
Speaker 1: think the Rams, the Eagles, the Patriots have have traded
Speaker 1: more for veterans. In general, you should have less risk.
Speaker 1: And I think about the Brandon Cooks trades, which you
Speaker 1: could say worked out okay for both the Patriots. I
Speaker 1: know that's the thing, but that that almost I think
Speaker 1: proves the wisdom of doing them, because maybe they weren't
Speaker 1: total home runs, but Cooks helped both the teams he
Speaker 1: landed on make a Super Bowl. Patriots Rams, you know,
Speaker 1: and play well, and they still got in in. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a thing where you felt like you
Speaker 1: wanted to keep them forever. And you know what, they
Speaker 1: both got a pretty good draft pick when they traded
Speaker 1: them away, so it's like they they both ended up
Speaker 1: recouping some of that loss. They got a lot of
Speaker 1: value out of Cooks, you know, and they and you
Speaker 1: move on. Whereas these late first round picks, I keep
Speaker 1: quoting at Mike Sando did the research of them don't
Speaker 1: get their fifth round option, which is about what we
Speaker 1: would think like a late first round pick, you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss about half the time, and so you
Speaker 1: fall in love with these guys, um, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: miss half the time. And a year or two of
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, to me, is worth more than the chance
Speaker 1: that you're missing half the time on these pits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does put a little bit of pressure because it's
Speaker 1: Todd Downing taking over the offense. He was with the Titans,
Speaker 1: you know, the last two seasons, and he sort of said, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not looking to recreate something different than what Arthur
Speaker 1: Smith has done. But his one year as an offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator was with the coming off of the playoffs Raiders
Speaker 1: in seventeen under Jack del Rio. They finished twenty third
Speaker 1: offense and the entire staff got fired. So I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's on Todd Downing, but it's gonna be. You know,
Speaker 1: look at you have to like the one thing in
Speaker 1: my memory I did not, I cannot. I cannot remember
Speaker 1: what happened, and that too, I guess Derek, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were six and ten and they were a hot mess.
Speaker 1: Nobody remember, were inflated all off season and then they
Speaker 1: were a complete hot mess. And it's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that that Todd Downing can't do it, but it's
Speaker 1: interesting me that Arthur Smith, of all people, shift Julio
Speaker 1: Jones back to the Titans where Arthur's where where there's
Speaker 1: an Arthur Smith's is void calling plays. So we'll we'll
Speaker 1: see how that works out. I'm looking at like the Raiders,
Speaker 1: like from it was more that that Downing was like
Speaker 1: calling the plays. I guess del Rio, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I don't really remember like a lot of
Speaker 1: around the NFL discussion being like, hey, what's Downing doing
Speaker 1: the wide receiver sets? Not a lot of Downing talk
Speaker 1: that it wasn't the whole tune kind of just combusted.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you forget that Jack del Rio, you know,
Speaker 1: presided over a twelve and four Raiders team into me
Speaker 1: as um everyone in a while, I feel like someone
Speaker 1: associated with del Rio or something. He points out that,
Speaker 1: like his record was better with the Raiders than you
Speaker 1: know Gruden's was, so was not crazy? Well, well he
Speaker 1: had the twelve and four with then the sandwich it
Speaker 1: was seven, nine and six and ten, and then it
Speaker 1: was like and now the Jon Gruden erro what is
Speaker 1: what was seen? All right? Anyway, forget about that. There
Speaker 1: you go. Titans fans are excited. The Tytoons long gone
Speaker 1: long gun. Well there they're gonna be in prime time.
Speaker 1: More so I do like it for the average fan.
Speaker 1: I did look at this the Falcons were buried anyways,
Speaker 1: that they weren't getting any uh any pop this season
Speaker 1: with Julio. So now if the Titans are gonna be
Speaker 1: in prime time, which they are a little more okay, Now,
Speaker 1: it's I like the fact we get the Julio instead
Speaker 1: of about your quiet not so quiet doubts about Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill true star? Is that is this? Now? Somewhat does
Speaker 1: that put on the back the way I have those yeah,
Speaker 1: you have a you have some quibble about should we
Speaker 1: actually a view Towne Hill as a guy to trust
Speaker 1: a year after year at this point we have this
Speaker 1: conversation a couple of weeks ago. This helps. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are there are like the QB gurus, like Nate
Speaker 1: Tyson we've had on I would love to get a
Speaker 1: little more thoughts on this that he thinks he kind
Speaker 1: of thinks Tannehill is still like one read. Uh, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll get to my second read or I'll freak out.
Speaker 1: And it's very you know, it's very steam and like
Speaker 1: calling dependent. But you know what, it's worked incredibly well
Speaker 1: so that you can't argue with the results. And this
Speaker 1: will help. I mean, it is interesting that Julio Jones
Speaker 1: basically there was the whispers that he wants to go
Speaker 1: somewhere where the quarterback is want of the established you know,
Speaker 1: top five deep pastors in the league, and Tannehill is
Speaker 1: the middle of the pack. He's not you know, nightmare
Speaker 1: and he's not the best. I mean, he's reminding me
Speaker 1: that really well too. This reminds me. I had Erica
Speaker 1: cut a clip of a J. Brown who was showing
Speaker 1: a personality I really hadn't seen before speaking this Julio
Speaker 1: Jones trade into existence weeks and weeks ago. Let's let's
Speaker 1: listen to a j then me I'm up and coming
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl YouTube. Not a big deal. Kind of a
Speaker 1: big deal, but not really Okay, excratch that anyway, whatever,
Speaker 1: you the goal of our error, the of our receivers,
Speaker 1: help me, help you come home, Julio, come home. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know they're texting, come on. That was like they're
Speaker 1: close friends. That was you know, I cut off part
Speaker 1: of the because it didn't make sense out of context,
Speaker 1: but it was him standing in front of also like
Speaker 1: or city in front of us a fan made uh
Speaker 1: image of Tannehill and he starts like pumping up Tannehill
Speaker 1: as the man and a leader and that you don't
Speaker 1: even need to talk about Derrick Henry because he's got
Speaker 1: the meanest face ever. And you add Julio to that
Speaker 1: mix and they're the meanest, like four pack in the league.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like a little a j Brown,
Speaker 1: uh puffing his chest out and making it happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that with some good personality there from a
Speaker 1: j all right, Uh, that's that. Let's hit the rest
Speaker 1: of the news hit it Ricky simple, Well, what a
Speaker 1: great time had by all at handsas manner on Sunday,
Speaker 1: a little bit belated because the great Lakisha Jackson Westling
Speaker 1: have been traveling, but we celebrated links first birthday with
Speaker 1: a surprise party. Lakisha thought she was just coming over
Speaker 1: for a swim at the pad here and instead it
Speaker 1: was a full on party for you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was tight. It was everybody a t N podcast,
Speaker 1: everybody connected to the show, um and we're obviously like
Speaker 1: a family brought closer by the tragedy with west and
Speaker 1: to have us all together and to celebrate Link and Lakisha,
Speaker 1: that was nice. That was a nice Sunday. Well, still recovering.
Speaker 1: Let's not drop the ball on um Dan's new place,
Speaker 1: which is sort of out of a Californian dream. I mean,
Speaker 1: I you know, our kids, like I don't know about you, Greg,
Speaker 1: but our kids don't have a like a lot of
Speaker 1: pool time. And You've got a wonderful pool and like
Speaker 1: they just had the time of the life. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking over and like Jack and Harry are like wrestling
Speaker 1: in the pool, like to uh w WF like youngsters
Speaker 1: and like Luke and Colton sitting next to them, and
Speaker 1: Ellis and I just Walker. I just thought like that
Speaker 1: watching the six of them together was kind of cool,
Speaker 1: Like they're interacting all day long. I mean it was
Speaker 1: a lot of there was a lot of parental supervision
Speaker 1: going on as well, but um, it was a fantastic time. No,
Speaker 1: they were in the pool the whole time. You say
Speaker 1: you're feeling it today, Dan Walker's feeling it today. I
Speaker 1: think it's like four hours in the pool and the sun.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He hasn't been the same great since,
Speaker 1: but uh, he had a blast. I'm glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: Harry and Jack. You know, we we can get to
Speaker 1: some other issues if you want. But I did love
Speaker 1: this moment where we saw them. I mean, they get
Speaker 1: after each other, and you guys just you allow it
Speaker 1: because you trust them. And that's great because it seems
Speaker 1: like they take care of themselves. But yeah, there was
Speaker 1: a a sequence where one of them was choking the
Speaker 1: other and then they kissed on the lips, like very
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter, because that was the brotherhood. It was azing.
Speaker 1: You were sitting there and we're talking and Colleen was
Speaker 1: talking about something else and she goes boys kissing the
Speaker 1: and they were like strangling each other and then it
Speaker 1: was very very sweet. I mean they are I I
Speaker 1: grew up. I was a middle child and I'm almost
Speaker 1: six years older than my my brother Kevin Danger, so
Speaker 1: there wasn't that type of closeness. I mean my brother
Speaker 1: and I are very close, but it's different when they're
Speaker 1: Jack is my oldest is six and Harrison is four,
Speaker 1: so like they really are. Um, they're almost like they
Speaker 1: they're like twins. I know, Mark, you know, you know
Speaker 1: it's a similar thing with Luke and Colton. Uh So yes,
Speaker 1: the whole thing is you watch over them. You make
Speaker 1: sure it's not turning to a place where they're actually
Speaker 1: mad at each other, because you don't want wrestling in
Speaker 1: water at any time when there's actual fearsomeness. But it's
Speaker 1: just like two bros just going at it, enjoying their company.
Speaker 1: And I I give them a little bit of rope
Speaker 1: for that reason. Yeah, and so you know, sooner than later,
Speaker 1: link will be uh we'll be jumping in that pool.
Speaker 1: Because I've never seen a one year old with the dexterity,
Speaker 1: the ability to move dance moves he's got. He can
Speaker 1: run around. He's very like with it, doesn't is very chill,
Speaker 1: so I he's a very advanced one year old Lincoln
Speaker 1: wrestling good appetite, two eating like slices of pizza. You know,
Speaker 1: it was awesome. It was awesome, and I am recovering,
Speaker 1: but it was very nice um to get everyone together
Speaker 1: and celebrate the Westlings. Okay, let's hit the rest of
Speaker 1: the news before we say goodbye. The Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: they're dealing with it. It's been a rough offseason for
Speaker 1: this organization. And Mark Murphy, who's the team president. Remember
Speaker 1: there's no owner, it's a team that is, there's shareholders.
Speaker 1: And then you could actually even buy a frame with
Speaker 1: a certificate that says you're a part owner of the team.
Speaker 1: That's a nice little thing. Uh what Mark would definitely
Speaker 1: do if it was the Browns, who would absolutely have
Speaker 1: one that was still available. I feel like that was
Speaker 1: like a one a one time thing valuable. Think about this,
Speaker 1: Greg Packers fans, and I know many of them are
Speaker 1: willing to pay three hundred bucks or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep offering it. Okay, would be wrong, but yeah.
Speaker 1: We worked with Jim Reinican at NFL dot com Rhino
Speaker 1: who was a Packers fan, and he had a he
Speaker 1: had a shareholders certificate in a frame and that was
Speaker 1: less than that wasn't too many years ago. So I
Speaker 1: think it's it's a money maker. Remember that the Celtics
Speaker 1: he used to legitimately be publicly traded company, which is
Speaker 1: which is a bar to thinking about on the head,
Speaker 1: that's that's not true anymore. That would be fun to
Speaker 1: just like half stock in your favorite team, so like
Speaker 1: within their structure, team president, that's where it's at. Mark Murphy,
Speaker 1: he has a monthly mail bag column on the Packers website,
Speaker 1: which yes, is on my radar. I don't like when
Speaker 1: people try to roll into the business with relevant mail
Speaker 1: bags that break news. I don't like that because it's
Speaker 1: coming in on my turf. I'm battling an internal war
Speaker 1: when I when I asked for mail bag questions and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, what do you think about Mark's thoughts about UFOs?
Speaker 1: Do you think he's for real? Do you think he
Speaker 1: would follow the aliens? Like no asked me about the
Speaker 1: Julio Jones trade. It's affecting my mail bag. I have
Speaker 1: a bit of a mail bag crisis going on right now.
Speaker 1: Um even on the same level of breaking news. Were
Speaker 1: you to expound on that, But Murph, over here in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, you are on an island and there's CDs there.
Speaker 1: But you could kill Mark, Which would you say, Adam?
Speaker 1: It's like, whyere should the next NFL team move if
Speaker 1: they want to leave America? It's like, all right, sorry,
Speaker 1: I love you guys anyway, all right, Murphy. He addressed
Speaker 1: the situation with Aaron Rodgers, who obviously is unhappy. Nobody
Speaker 1: knows if he's gonna turn up at O T A
Speaker 1: s Man mandatory camp. I should say so. Here's what
Speaker 1: he said in his mail bag. The situation we faced
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers has divided our fan base. The emails
Speaker 1: and letters that I've received reflect this fact. Now. Murphy
Speaker 1: also added that you know they still believe that Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Packers have a future together. Greg. I
Speaker 1: know how these things get as we all do, how
Speaker 1: these things get twisted around. You could read that line
Speaker 1: that he's divided our fan base and be like, oh man,
Speaker 1: it's the divorce. It's it's happening. But it's really just speaking.
Speaker 1: It's just a fact, like the fans have to that's
Speaker 1: all it is right. Is there anything to it feels
Speaker 1: like a nothing burger? It maybe is. First of all,
Speaker 1: they don't see that divide. I think most of them
Speaker 1: are on the Aaron Rodgers side, although I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of them are upset. They well, they well, they
Speaker 1: want they want the team to work it out and
Speaker 1: for Rogers to stay, whether they're happy with Maybe they
Speaker 1: are divided in terms of like their happiness, but it's not.
Speaker 1: No one is saying let's trade him, let's get rid
Speaker 1: of this bum that. That's a pretty small segment. But
Speaker 1: I'm glad I wanted to do this because not only
Speaker 1: did it come from a mailbag, which it would seem
Speaker 1: like this was very purposeful. He hasn't said anything publicly
Speaker 1: about it much, and he was just like he had
Speaker 1: the choice to mention it. I want to read you
Speaker 1: the quote unquote question. Daddy answered, um, this too. His
Speaker 1: name was Ken and this is the entire quote. You
Speaker 1: have done a great job. Don't let the bastards drag
Speaker 1: you down. Washington needs a name, I suggested generals what
Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with Aaron Rodgers at all.
Speaker 1: I think he was responding to the part where it
Speaker 1: was like don't let the haters drag you down, and
Speaker 1: that he assumed it is about Rogers and and that's fine,
Speaker 1: but it was a weird spot that he was like
Speaker 1: looking for this from from Ken to go in on
Speaker 1: this Rogers thing. And then this is where, um, I
Speaker 1: appreciate Mike Florio taking the time to go through the
Speaker 1: whole mail bag, um, because I hadn't and he did know.
Speaker 1: And I think it was a good point, my old boss,
Speaker 1: he did know. How Also in that mail bag he
Speaker 1: really pumped up Uh Jordan's love and really mentioned what
Speaker 1: a great relationship um, Matt Lafleur and Brian Gooda con
Speaker 1: set and really pumped up Brian Gooda cut. So I
Speaker 1: think if you kind of add all those answers together,
Speaker 1: it does become a little bit of newsworthy to me
Speaker 1: that he's trying to like put this pr spin out there. Well,
Speaker 1: here is the line that he had on good I
Speaker 1: must tell you, I have tremendous confidence in Goody. That's
Speaker 1: me using Goody in his relatively short tenures are GM.
Speaker 1: He has completely turned around the fortunes of our team.
Speaker 1: That's in the state, that's Graphs. After the situation we
Speaker 1: faced with Aaron Rodgers has divided our fan base. It
Speaker 1: sounds they've got their backup a little bit. They've ben
Speaker 1: back up a little bit to the national criticism. Right,
Speaker 1: But Dancy, maybe that's what you should do with your
Speaker 1: mail bag. You get a question that's just about something
Speaker 1: totally arcane that you're not into, and just answer it
Speaker 1: the way you want to. That's what he did. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the next level mail bagging. Um No,
Speaker 1: he's Murphy is putting everybody in the mail bag industry
Speaker 1: on notice. And I honestly that's that's iron sharpened iron,
Speaker 1: that whole thing. Um. I Ultimately I respect him for
Speaker 1: what he's done here. Yeah, and good for Mark Murr.
Speaker 1: So basically, he's going out there and he's saying he's
Speaker 1: letting people know. He's using this mail bag as the
Speaker 1: method to let the fans know, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: bullied by the superstar quarterback. We're not gonna fire the
Speaker 1: GM to make this guy happy. We're digging our heels
Speaker 1: in a little bit. And there again, it just seems
Speaker 1: like they're daring Rogers to retire and and I don't
Speaker 1: think they do that. If they don't buy it, they
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play and this has all just been um,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of ugly theater. If you're a Packers
Speaker 1: fan or in the organization, it's uncomfortable. But I don't
Speaker 1: think they're gonna they think that Roger's gonna call their
Speaker 1: bluff and not show up. I think. And he's not
Speaker 1: coming in mini camp this week, by the way, we
Speaker 1: need to stop these like breathless reportrait. Is he gonna come?
Speaker 1: You know, I know we need to fill time. He's
Speaker 1: not coming this week. Apparently the receivers are, so that's
Speaker 1: that's nice for for Jordan's love. And we'll we'll find
Speaker 1: out somewhere as we get closer to the training. And
Speaker 1: it's just a couple of people tweeted at me and
Speaker 1: I think you guys too, that we're talking about the
Speaker 1: money lost that could all be gained back in um,
Speaker 1: I guess negotiations and people said it with under the
Speaker 1: terms of the new cb A, there's no way to
Speaker 1: get out of the fines you pay. I guess there's
Speaker 1: still At the same time, it's still it's sorry, it's Penny's.
Speaker 1: It's Penny's when you talk about Aaron Rodgers. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be. It is interesting. It's like Peter King suggested.
Speaker 1: Number one. He basically said in his column this morning
Speaker 1: that he would bet Rogers today is solid on never
Speaker 1: playing for the Packers again. Um. He also talked about
Speaker 1: the idea that there could be a scenario, because of
Speaker 1: the six point eight million dollar roster bonus that he
Speaker 1: got in March and not having to give that back
Speaker 1: or whatever fight over that and his salary and everything else,
Speaker 1: that maybe the Packers would come up with a scenario
Speaker 1: where both sides agree that Rogers would play this season
Speaker 1: under the you know, the concept that he would be
Speaker 1: openly traded next year to a team of his choice,
Speaker 1: that they play good for one year and gives sort
Speaker 1: of a more a little bit more of a runway
Speaker 1: for Jordan of to become the starter, um and play
Speaker 1: him as much as they could when they had big
Speaker 1: leads or if they were getting buried in the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, that feels a little too friendly for what's
Speaker 1: going on here. But it's one possibility. Yeah, that seems
Speaker 1: it seems like a bad idea, and it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like the energy around that would be awful. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: satisfy anyone everyone would be a little unhappy, I feel
Speaker 1: like with that compromises, especially the fans if they knew
Speaker 1: about it. In other news, Juwan James is not happy
Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos. The offensive tackle has filed a
Speaker 1: fifteen million grievance against this former team, the Broncos um
Speaker 1: At the same time, he has also agreed to a
Speaker 1: new contract with the Baltimore Ravens. The twenty nine year
Speaker 1: old suffered a season ending achilles injury and the workout
Speaker 1: away from the facility last month. He had been guaranteed
Speaker 1: ten million for one season, but because the injury took
Speaker 1: place off site, it was designated a non football injury.
Speaker 1: That means that Broncos could say we're not paying his salary.
Speaker 1: They then released him. Now, in this grievance, Gregg James
Speaker 1: wants the ten million and he wants five million for
Speaker 1: two season. Um, so there you go, a little bit
Speaker 1: ugly the way these things turned out for James. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be a precedent for players working out off site
Speaker 1: in the off season in general. He's also saying that
Speaker 1: the Broncos maybe didn't have the right COVID protocols and
Speaker 1: that was a reason and that you're only working out
Speaker 1: off site because you're doing what you were told to
Speaker 1: do when you were on site. We'll see. It just
Speaker 1: could have some impact on how these off seasons go.
Speaker 1: It's not like a hugely fascinating story. I was shocked though,
Speaker 1: that the Ravens um signed him. That was really interesting.
Speaker 1: They decided to pay him half a million dollars this
Speaker 1: year that they didn't have to um to basically rehab
Speaker 1: at their facility, and so that they could have him
Speaker 1: under contract for next year for eight million dollars, had
Speaker 1: almost no risk to them. So I think it was
Speaker 1: kind of a creative, clever move by them because now
Speaker 1: they have him next year and if he if he
Speaker 1: doesn't look great in the next offseason, they'll probably just
Speaker 1: cut him anyways. But now they have a tackle, they're
Speaker 1: a place Orlando Brown potentially on top of Ali Villanueva.
Speaker 1: I think UM like, to me, the most impressive athlete
Speaker 1: in football right now is Mark's boy, Miles Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is just a freak. He's he's
Speaker 1: a Martian and when you see him doing those like
Speaker 1: three sixty windmill jams and pick up games, it's like
Speaker 1: if I don't know about you, Mark, but like, let's
Speaker 1: take it easy on the court there, buddy. You worry
Speaker 1: about what these guys are doing when they're working out
Speaker 1: on their own time, because you know the effect last
Speaker 1: year he was last week he was essentially told by
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, you're your basketball career is over for
Speaker 1: this offseason at least. Um. And you know, Myles Garrett,
Speaker 1: for as good as he looked at times last year,
Speaker 1: said he was never really better than about health wise
Speaker 1: after that COVID thing, which I know that you know
Speaker 1: that was totally uh pooh pooed on this show, but
Speaker 1: I mean some players never really took that seriously. He
Speaker 1: was draggling to breathe. He's said, I don't this is
Speaker 1: totally separate, But how much would you pay watching that?
Speaker 1: You know, those Miles Garrett basketball clips are great? Um,
Speaker 1: how much how much pay? No? I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: to watch like I like or how much would you
Speaker 1: need to just like take a charge from Miles Garrett?
Speaker 1: You would like to like watching I would like to
Speaker 1: watch basically a video of me but not have to
Speaker 1: go through it, or a video of Mark just like
Speaker 1: kind of like standing underneath and take a charge from
Speaker 1: a you know, a bullying Miles Garrett running down the floor.
Speaker 1: You just gotta take it in the chest like I
Speaker 1: do it for very low money, just to have the
Speaker 1: video of it and be able to tell people what
Speaker 1: happened to me. No, I need just that at least. Well,
Speaker 1: let's put this. Let's see if I were severely injured
Speaker 1: that he would pay for, you know, for me to
Speaker 1: be fixed on whatever level I need to be fixed.
Speaker 1: That's not part of the deal. That's not part of it.
Speaker 1: You got that, that's not I'm not entering that situation.
Speaker 1: Then that doesn't feel good. That would go fly and
Speaker 1: it would be fun um all right. In other news,
Speaker 1: the New York Jets are gonna have a new look
Speaker 1: on offense with Michael la Fleur at the controls. UH
Speaker 1: they made some moves in the draft and free agency
Speaker 1: to better that positional group. Elijah Moore, added in the
Speaker 1: draft in the second round, um a notable one because
Speaker 1: he plays a similar position to Jamison Crowder, who has
Speaker 1: been there and been a good soldier for the Jets
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years on some wretched teams.
Speaker 1: Uh s n Y reported that the Jets are trying
Speaker 1: to get Crowder in his contract year to take a
Speaker 1: quote significant pay cut from his ten million dollar salary.
Speaker 1: Of course Corey Davis is there as well, Mark, so
Speaker 1: it's not It's never a bad thing to have extra
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I think the Jets are a better team,
Speaker 1: even if you can't like figure out who's starting and
Speaker 1: Gregg and your projected starter series. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he had Crowder in the starting lineup. I think he did,
Speaker 1: maybe more being worked in as the season goes along.
Speaker 1: But they're kind of putting his feet to the fire
Speaker 1: here asking him to take a pay cut. I mean,
Speaker 1: more has has been getting glowing reports at their mini camps.
Speaker 1: I mean there's people going off about how explosive he looks.
Speaker 1: So he's a slot guy. Um. I think they're looking
Speaker 1: at the ten million million dollar salary for Crowder and saying,
Speaker 1: you're not getting this somewhere else. If we were to
Speaker 1: cut you or whatever, You're not getting somewhere else. He
Speaker 1: has no guaranteed money, So can we find like a
Speaker 1: middle ground where we want you you get it, we
Speaker 1: get it. Um, it would be a fair asking price.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Dan, I look at the if
Speaker 1: like Corey Davis stays healthy, if Denzel Mims takes another step,
Speaker 1: if Elijah More becomes what they say you can be. Um,
Speaker 1: you've got a really interesting group of wide receivers. Uh
Speaker 1: this team, I mean for for this new coaching staff
Speaker 1: to work with. So I think Crowder is basically on
Speaker 1: the way out. Can you keep him for one year
Speaker 1: on a reduced salary? Yeah, but you're you're much better
Speaker 1: with Crowder. I like having four instead of three, and
Speaker 1: he is. He's kind of the safest among them, just
Speaker 1: because Davis is on a new team. More is a rookie. Mims,
Speaker 1: we gotta see you gotta know what you have. And Crowder, Uh,
Speaker 1: he has a tough decision to me because they said
Speaker 1: it's a significant pay cup and maybe his agent is
Speaker 1: testing the market. I think you could get a decent
Speaker 1: contract elsewhere. I mean they also paid Keeling Cole six
Speaker 1: million dollars, which that move slipped under the radar, and
Speaker 1: that is the reason I would guess they feel comfortable
Speaker 1: getting rid of Crowder. My guess is he's gonna get
Speaker 1: cut and he's not at He's not at the facility now,
Speaker 1: and unless he finds that no one wants to pay
Speaker 1: him with I guess that's possible. Uh, there's a good
Speaker 1: chance he's gone. He would be an interesting pickup that
Speaker 1: are desperate. They're like million under the cap, like what what?
Speaker 1: They just don't think he's that good. I guess, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's as purely it sounds like just like a business
Speaker 1: financial decision. But I think they're a better team with
Speaker 1: him there. And I'm thinking this is he's not close
Speaker 1: obviously to Julio Jones, but he would help a team.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that if other teams are kind
Speaker 1: of monitoring the situation and they're they're thinking he's gonna
Speaker 1: get cut, so why offer you know, um round draft
Speaker 1: pick or whatever it would take to get him. But
Speaker 1: Crowder has been one of the only guys that was
Speaker 1: could make plays for the Jets the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: He's been been a little banged up, but I always
Speaker 1: liked him a lot. I think he's a good player.
Speaker 1: Um And other news, you know, we have the Kicker
Speaker 1: Club and it's wild in the Kicker Club. Um. So
Speaker 1: this podcast is celebrated kickers, and it's been really a
Speaker 1: nice run for kickers on the Around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: You know, the punters. You know, we don't talk about
Speaker 1: them as much, and maybe we should, maybe we should,
Speaker 1: but they don't have a club. Unfortunately, they have like
Speaker 1: it's like the punters punch Mixer I call it. That's
Speaker 1: a little bit I'll get together. Where is that Hell's
Speaker 1: I get the local gymnas Gymnasium a little lower octane.
Speaker 1: There's some there's some streamers and some balloons, and there's
Speaker 1: a big bowl of punch and some finger foods, and
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of like people are doing the twist
Speaker 1: annals school. It's a middle school damp, except just like
Speaker 1: mid twenties punters exactly. So maybe they need somebody to
Speaker 1: come in and kind of reinvigorate the thing. But you
Speaker 1: look at what that's going on in the club with
Speaker 1: the kickers, and it's a total party. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: you look at what's going on here at the Punter's
Speaker 1: Punch Mixer room for growing. Yeah, I mean that's why
Speaker 1: I threw it out there, because I just thought, look
Speaker 1: if if one of the top five punters and the
Speaker 1: kickers in the league, we're getting a big, you know,
Speaker 1: market setting contract. We talked about it, but the punters
Speaker 1: get forgotten I mean, who had more hype as a
Speaker 1: rookie punter than Michael Dixon. Nobody, and he's lived up
Speaker 1: to it. Uh. I don't remember having a ton of hype,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure he did crazy spin. He has a
Speaker 1: crazy spin and he kicked. He punchs at like seventy
Speaker 1: yards there. I saw stat they were showing like e
Speaker 1: p a per play by punters over the last three years.
Speaker 1: I think Dixon was fourth, so that shows he's a hunter.
Speaker 1: But you know who was number one in that list?
Speaker 1: Who's that it was the best player on the Patriots
Speaker 1: last year. Left footed punter Jake Bailey was number one.
Speaker 1: I mean, who, Now, that's all we gotta take Bailey now,
Speaker 1: Jake Bailey. They're like, all right, everybody clear on the flossy.
Speaker 1: Jake Bailey has taken. He's gonna do the swish there
Speaker 1: is trying to bring his name awareness. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's really caught on nationwide as as such a great punter,
Speaker 1: but he really is. Jake. Michael Dixon was a West
Speaker 1: was a big fan of Michael Dixon, and Michael Dixon
Speaker 1: is um also quite a marketer. He has a line
Speaker 1: of clothing products out there called Big Dixon energy so
Speaker 1: and then those So I don't know about this like
Speaker 1: sixth grade punch bowl business. Like he seems like he's
Speaker 1: ready to, you know, confront the world as a man
Speaker 1: and take his position and take take it with pride.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's really an enterprising young gentleman. And
Speaker 1: just to make it clear, because I don't think it
Speaker 1: was made, it's been noted here his name has been
Speaker 1: brought up. There's an extension. It's a four year contract
Speaker 1: extension signed on Friday, Um, if you want any They
Speaker 1: used the two thousand eighteen draft pick to select the
Speaker 1: Australian punter out of you two, but they traded up
Speaker 1: to fifth round to get him. So there you go, Greg,
Speaker 1: you're nailing that. You were all over this. Um. Maybe
Speaker 1: if he's really an enterprising young man, maybe build up
Speaker 1: the punters punch mixer. That's it. Maybe that's where he
Speaker 1: should think him. Probably he has to be the most
Speaker 1: famous punter right now. I don't think there's anyone that
Speaker 1: tops him. So it's it's kind of a low it's
Speaker 1: like a it's a low mark right now for a
Speaker 1: Punter's not a lot of pop. Yeah, And uh so
Speaker 1: there you go. Congratulations buddy. Finally in the news, Uh,
Speaker 1: Chad Johnson boxes now and he went the distance in
Speaker 1: a four round exhibition on Sunday night. He was the
Speaker 1: opening fight of the Floyd Mayweather Logan Paul undercard. And
Speaker 1: I just this is just an excuse to say, what
Speaker 1: what happened in boxing? What's going on? I mean, well,
Speaker 1: the fact that this was a pay per view event
Speaker 1: on a Sunday night, By the way, what's that all about? Um?
Speaker 1: With a YouTube star logan Paul and a forty four
Speaker 1: year old retired Floyd Mayweather? Like we had our we
Speaker 1: had our old buddy Mike Coppinger um who used to
Speaker 1: work for NFL media. Now, is you know doing very
Speaker 1: well for himself covering boxing. I'm wondering, like if you're
Speaker 1: a boxing purist like somebody, and I grew up like
Speaker 1: you guys did late eighties and it was awesome. Mike
Speaker 1: Tyson was coming up and it was a great heavyweight division.
Speaker 1: You have this phenomen that you could build the sport
Speaker 1: around in the heavyweight division. Um. But I'm no expert,
Speaker 1: and I fall and I wonder if, like the boxing
Speaker 1: purists out there, when this is the biggest story around
Speaker 1: the sport. That's gotta hurt. I mean, that's gotta hurt anyway.
Speaker 1: But Chad Johnson is one of these guys on the
Speaker 1: car and it's just like, not only do you have
Speaker 1: YouTubers against retired guys that have fought like once in
Speaker 1: five years, and that's Floyd Mayweather and even that his
Speaker 1: last match was against the m M A guy um
Speaker 1: the irishman what's his name Connor McGregor here, and we
Speaker 1: paid for that. I remember we all watched that together,
Speaker 1: that that fight. But I don't know. I'm not bagging
Speaker 1: on another sports and I know there's lovers out there,
Speaker 1: but it's crazy to me that Chad Johnson is on
Speaker 1: the undercard of this biggest match of the year. My
Speaker 1: only my only note though would be I do think
Speaker 1: with boxing because it's accessible to anyone. I mean all
Speaker 1: sorts of people get into fights outside of bars and taverns,
Speaker 1: like anyone could box that they wanted to, So there
Speaker 1: is if you're gonna be like a professional boxing circuit,
Speaker 1: stay away from this. But in general, like would I
Speaker 1: pay fifty dollars to see like greg and dan Um
Speaker 1: spar for I don't know how many rounds that would
Speaker 1: last maybe one too. But like, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that there is something about like you know, pairing wacky um,
Speaker 1: you know, individuals against each other in the ring. I
Speaker 1: like the idea that when Eric comes in and like
Speaker 1: hits Dan with a chair something, you know, it's somewhere
Speaker 1: between w w E and an actual sport. And they're
Speaker 1: so in Floyd Maywether Pablo Tory made a great point
Speaker 1: of like he sort of was a YouTube star before
Speaker 1: YouTube stars. Is like he's getting people to pay money
Speaker 1: even though they're always like disappointed by his fights, by
Speaker 1: doing all this crazy stuff off the you know, out
Speaker 1: of the ring, and then people pay their money and
Speaker 1: they're they're a little dissatisfied. But it's like that's that
Speaker 1: That's what he's been doing his entire career. It's very strange.
Speaker 1: The most interesting part of the Chad Johnson thing was
Speaker 1: though not only was it against Nate Robinson, you know,
Speaker 1: and he got up or not not against Nate Robinson,
Speaker 1: rather um it was some m M A guy. It
Speaker 1: was supposed to be against pac Man Jones, but pac
Speaker 1: Man Chad Ocho Sinko wouldn't do it. He wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Against pac Man. He wasn't confident enough against pac Man.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to get in there against pac Man either.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you want to turn into
Speaker 1: like pro wrestling spectacle, it's fine that this is the direction,
Speaker 1: but this is the sweet science. Whether they're not going
Speaker 1: for belts, there's somewhere in between. Because I think there's
Speaker 1: an idea that you know, Bloyd Mayweather is trying to
Speaker 1: help Logan Paul look good here and then like sign
Speaker 1: him to his company and they might do it again.
Speaker 1: And it's like all this sort of for fun, said
Speaker 1: Chad Chad Johnson after the fight. I lost my virginity
Speaker 1: tonight and it was fun. I think I'm ready for McGregor. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's enough. That's what's happening in the news. I got
Speaker 1: him one like old guys shaking hands and shouting at
Speaker 1: the clouds about this. But you know, better sports is
Speaker 1: as a sports fan like all encompassing. Um, I enjoy
Speaker 1: sports more when there's like a fun boxing vibe going on.
Speaker 1: And it's been a while. Um, all right, before we go,
Speaker 1: h our friend friend of the show, Kyle Brant, is
Speaker 1: in Australia right now, and we talk about our our
Speaker 1: fans all over the world, and although a kid about
Speaker 1: some of the mail bag questions, I tend to get Um,
Speaker 1: we absolutely love and appreciate our overseas fans because they're everywhere,
Speaker 1: including Australia. So Kyle is there because Kyle's career is
Speaker 1: blown up and he's got it's a little bit I
Speaker 1: think the project is a little mysterious what it is exactly,
Speaker 1: but he's he's in Australia. He's been quarantining for two weeks,
Speaker 1: staying in a hotel. Um. He had to do that
Speaker 1: to satisfy the COVID nineteen protocols down there where. Australia,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, has really done well in that
Speaker 1: realm with COVID. It has not been anything like it's
Speaker 1: been in a lot of other places in the world.
Speaker 1: Um and uh. He is doing Kyle Good Morning Football
Speaker 1: from Australia this week with tapings for him at like
Speaker 1: eleven pm, six am in New York with the rest
Speaker 1: of the gang. Anyway, this is a clip from that
Speaker 1: show that was sent my way when Kyle was talking
Speaker 1: about once he was allowed back into society in Australia.
Speaker 1: This is what happened he might, and I turned it's
Speaker 1: just some guy. It's an Australian guy returning home and
Speaker 1: he goes, I like your show mate, and I was like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: you watched a Good Morning Football. I'm so flattered. That's
Speaker 1: incredible that I mean, that's I didn't know you guys
Speaker 1: haven't done. It's really great. And he goes, I you
Speaker 1: want to know my favorite talk and I go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering is it like, you know, one of our
Speaker 1: like wacky segments or is it like the banter at
Speaker 1: the table? Like what is this Australian man about to say?
Speaker 1: Is his favorite part of Good Morning Football? And he goes, hey,
Speaker 1: I like Dan Hanzas and I go, oh, yeah, you
Speaker 1: like Dan Hens That's that's that's cool. Dan's great on
Speaker 1: the show, like you to say. But he does come
Speaker 1: out a lot during see yeah, I'll walk around the
Speaker 1: NFL mate, and I was like, wow, what an incredible
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not Gregg Rosenthal. I wish I could be.
Speaker 1: He started to disappoint you, dude, but anyway, Dan, Greg,
Speaker 1: all the guys, You've got a huge fan down here,
Speaker 1: some bloke and all. He loves Dan hanzas the best.
Speaker 1: That's my story. Wow, what was that? Mark, Dan Gregg
Speaker 1: and all the guys. I knew that was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: The look on Mark's face right now, he is, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's furious. He's not happy that around the NFL got
Speaker 1: some nice good morning football pop um that the fans
Speaker 1: are that are are more excited about us. Think thinks
Speaker 1: Kyle is on our show or something. Who knows. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's just mad he didn't get mentioned there. I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at all. Like one of the three of us
Speaker 1: actually like left college, his second college that he transferred
Speaker 1: to to go to Australia for six months. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel a special connection to the country. But this,
Speaker 1: this bloke down there apparently could care less. So you
Speaker 1: spent some time in us, Joey, I've never heard about this.
Speaker 1: Let's well, you know for new listeners that you born
Speaker 1: in England. No like if you missed, if you missed
Speaker 1: the eleven shows until now, you're just joining now. I
Speaker 1: want to see what he's up to down there. I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting and mysterious. And if we have a
Speaker 1: random dude and whoever you are, dude, wait a gay,
Speaker 1: good job. Thanks for supporting us UM all these years.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're trying to get back to London. We
Speaker 1: want to go to Germany. There's a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about games being played in Germany this year. Man, let's
Speaker 1: just go for it. Let's go down to Australia and
Speaker 1: get loose. Who's paying for this? I don't know. You know.
Speaker 1: The beer is like much more potent and powerful down there.
Speaker 1: It's not this like grocery store like American beer with
Speaker 1: like a lower alcohol percentage. It is high octane and
Speaker 1: it leaves you wondering where you are. Trust me, I'm going.
Speaker 1: I'm I I have like that's the number one place
Speaker 1: I want to go with my family. Uh, in the
Speaker 1: summer will probably be more of this our summertime, their winter.
Speaker 1: Go check out some koalas Walker super Into once they
Speaker 1: open the restrictions. I'm thinking next summer. But just like,
Speaker 1: let's go as an NFL team. To my totally like
Speaker 1: shaded American viewpoint of Australia is that if you go
Speaker 1: on the ocean, there's a one and two chances are
Speaker 1: eaten by a shark. That's like what I know about Australia.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's right. But I think it
Speaker 1: was pretty prevalent. Will under sharks kill under ten people
Speaker 1: globally throughout year, I think people a day in Australia. No,
Speaker 1: it's sharks getting such a bad rap. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: bug you if you don't bug them. There's a lot
Speaker 1: more animals that are a lot more. There's a there's
Speaker 1: a check it out in the Los Angeles Times last
Speaker 1: month to your point, Greg, because sharks are endangered because
Speaker 1: of a lot of misconceptions that I am also now spewing.
Speaker 1: But what we're learning now drone technology. They're sending drones
Speaker 1: over the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and we're learning that great whites are everywhere, like sharks
Speaker 1: are everywhere like and we never knew because and most importantly,
Speaker 1: they're not attacking you, Like if you watch Jaws too
Speaker 1: many times, as I did as a kid, you just
Speaker 1: assume that to be the case. Anyway, thank you to Australia.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Kyle bren who has always been so
Speaker 1: cool to us and to this show. And I'm sorry
Speaker 1: Mark that he didn't bring you up, but you know
Speaker 1: he did. I it's all. I'm all. I'm the all
Speaker 1: the other guys. So he did name drop me in
Speaker 1: the sense we're good. This one's gonna be with you
Speaker 1: for the rest of the day. I'm sorry, perfect way
Speaker 1: to end. They gotta be the year. We'll bring it
Speaker 1: up when Kyle's on the show next. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is yeah, the best parties. Probably was like searching for
Speaker 1: the name of the third guy. He's like, I can't
Speaker 1: remember that guy's name. That is not true. All right,
Speaker 1: good stuff, Mark, You know this, this podcast does not
Speaker 1: exist without a Mark Sessler. Well, we could find out,
Speaker 1: but I so far it doesn't. But that we don't
Speaker 1: know what's down the road. Um, all right, good stuff.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday. We have something cooking Thursday, Ricky.
Speaker 1: We don't want to reveal it, right because for you
Speaker 1: it's just gonna happen to be a surprise. But Ricky's
Speaker 1: um recipe here that we're going to be following, right,
Speaker 1: So you know that's a little bit scary in a way,
Speaker 1: but that's it's the off season. This is where you
Speaker 1: you know, you you follow Ricky's path and you see
Speaker 1: where it takes you, uh, and it might even take us,
Speaker 1: you know, out of the virtual reality that we live
Speaker 1: in right now. I'm looking forward to that UM and
Speaker 1: no NFL Network show this week. We're on a two
Speaker 1: week hiatus from that, so if you want your around
Speaker 1: the NFL fix after today's show, Thursday's pop, that's where
Speaker 1: you get it. All right, good stuff, Dan hands As
Speaker 1: signing off for Quiet Storm. Mark Sessler is the name,
Speaker 1: learn it uh, and the old boss of course, Ricky
Speaker 1: Hollywood until Thursday. Keep the call. S