Speaker 1: Welcome back to IG Part two.
Speaker 2: It's Kelly ben Simone, one of your celebrity mentors here
Speaker 2: on the pod. I am having so much fun with
Speaker 2: this show, and I've been really open about putting myself
Speaker 2: back out there into the dating scene and just being
Speaker 2: really open to meeting people and having a good time.
Speaker 2: So today we're going to talk about setups not only
Speaker 2: in the romantic but also in the platonic. So we're
Speaker 2: meeting Cheryl Burke, who I love so much, and also
Speaker 2: my producers Amy Sugarman and Heather Monday are also have
Speaker 2: set me up and are going to set me up
Speaker 2: with a platonic relationship, a new friend and a romantic one.
Speaker 1: So I have a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: In So what we want people to know is this
Speaker 3: is real, right, It's not it's not like we didn't
Speaker 3: cast this person.
Speaker 4: It's not a celebrity.
Speaker 3: This is an actual, real setup that we hope on
Speaker 3: the romantic one that you'll really possibly like this guy.
Speaker 4: So it's it's totally real.
Speaker 3: But we do have his permission to give all the details.
Speaker 4: So we want to take everyone on this journey with you.
Speaker 2: Yes, this has been very exciting and very fun, so
Speaker 2: Amy Sugarman introduced me to a really nice guy.
Speaker 1: He's a lawyer.
Speaker 5: Hey, what do we call him? Do we call him
Speaker 5: tennis Man? Do we call him?
Speaker 4: Because he's a real guy? Because this is a total guy.
Speaker 3: Not a famous person, not a person on a dating show,
Speaker 3: not a person like who wants to be on the
Speaker 3: reality show. It's a real guy. So we just got
Speaker 3: to give him a nickname. So what are we calling him?
Speaker 1: The tennis Man?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Mister Tennis.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's really good.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, So.
Speaker 3: I've known mister Tennis since seventh grade and I'm fifty,
Speaker 3: so that's a lot of years. I know his family.
Speaker 3: His sister's one of my oldest friends. I know his parents,
Speaker 3: so I can definitely vouch for this guy.
Speaker 4: And basically he was in a relationship.
Speaker 3: He's out of that relationship, and I said, Hey, I
Speaker 3: want to set you up with my friend Kelly.
Speaker 4: He did know who you were, like, he's never.
Speaker 3: Really watched, but he knew your name and I think
Speaker 3: he knew what you looked like.
Speaker 1: Ok.
Speaker 3: And so basically we started a text group with the.
Speaker 4: Four of us. He probably was like, why are there
Speaker 4: two supervisors in here?
Speaker 3: But so we want everyone listening, like we're going to
Speaker 3: tell you the real, real stuff.
Speaker 4: So Heather read, So basically, I started.
Speaker 5: The text and said, Amy played matchmaker, Kelly, meet mister Tennis,
Speaker 5: and then read what Kelly's first text was.
Speaker 6: Kelly said, Aloha.
Speaker 5: I don't live in Hawaii, but I think Aloha really
Speaker 5: sums me up, sonny and happy about everything.
Speaker 6: Have an amazing holiday season.
Speaker 3: Now, did Jana not tell you not to write aloha anymore?
Speaker 1: She did?
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's Finana Kramer did.
Speaker 2: Jana Kramer did tell me her advice was to not
Speaker 2: write aloha, but it's just.
Speaker 1: Like my thing.
Speaker 4: That's fine, you be you.
Speaker 2: And I also like the fact that it's like very
Speaker 2: me because it is very sunny. But it's also like
Speaker 2: no one says aloa must It's.
Speaker 3: Fine, it's fine, It's totally fine. We're not gonna judge it.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna do it. So then he responded quickly,
Speaker 3: and Heather and I were still in the text at
Speaker 3: this point, and then Heather what did he say next?
Speaker 5: He said, Hey, Amy, you're amazing and always looking out
Speaker 5: for me. I'm very appreciate of that, Kelly. I'm glad
Speaker 5: we have connected. Amy says nothing but great things about you.
Speaker 5: Your energy is fun and cool, positive and smart with
Speaker 5: an amazing smile. I live in LA and from San
Speaker 5: Francisco Bay Area. My work office is headquartered in New York.
Speaker 5: Have a great holiday season. We'd love to connect over
Speaker 5: the phone and or in person at some point soon.
Speaker 4: Okay, so all right, let's analyze this.
Speaker 3: He's got some game, right, Like I think he's got
Speaker 3: game because he's super nice, but he also is like
Speaker 3: dropping the carrot or whatever the saying would be. He's
Speaker 3: dangling the carrot. He's saying, let's connect on the phone.
Speaker 4: So he's figuring out a way to get me and
Speaker 4: Heather out.
Speaker 3: Of there, and then he's saying some nice compliments acknowledging
Speaker 3: he knows who you are and he's seen you. And
Speaker 3: then also he's kind of moving it along right like
Speaker 3: he's saying, let's maybe see each other in.
Speaker 5: Per And he's also saying that your area is already
Speaker 5: on his radar, like he, oh, yeah, not a problem
Speaker 5: for you to be on the East coast, Like that
Speaker 5: works for him, is what he's saying. And he's throwing
Speaker 5: in a really nice compliment saying that you have a
Speaker 5: beautiful smile. So he's showing attraction as well in this message.
Speaker 4: So, Kelly, how did you feel when you first got
Speaker 4: the text? And have you seen his picture? Have I
Speaker 4: sent you a picture of him?
Speaker 1: He sent me, yes, a thirst trap was very attractive. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh good, okay, yeah he said.
Speaker 6: You a thirst trap?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, Amy said this was a thirst trap?
Speaker 4: Wait which picture did he send you? Is he with
Speaker 4: the kids?
Speaker 6: Stless at the gym? Like where is he?
Speaker 1: He sent me one with his kids, but he sent
Speaker 1: me one where he's like on a blue T shirt
Speaker 1: and he's kind of like looking out, and then he
Speaker 1: said another one.
Speaker 2: He's obviously playing tennis because he'd in green and he's
Speaker 2: like looking down.
Speaker 4: He's a really good tennis player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely athletic, which I love. And he's also he's
Speaker 1: just you know, I like, I really like smart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really smart. So how we went to college together? Also,
Speaker 3: so we went to Berkeley, so I will out that
Speaker 3: he went.
Speaker 4: He's smart.
Speaker 3: So how did you feel based on his first text
Speaker 3: before you saw the picture? Just from the text, were
Speaker 3: you feeling like, I don't know, just judge the text?
Speaker 2: Reading his text was like so nice and it was
Speaker 2: really sweet for him to be complimentary, but not like mushy.
Speaker 1: He just was like, you're funny.
Speaker 2: You know, you have a nice personality, and you know
Speaker 2: he could tell immediately. I think that's when the aloha
Speaker 2: is nice because like people are like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: she's like playful and I'm not taking myself too seriously.
Speaker 2: And he was also very proactive about making a plan.
Speaker 2: And he's been like, yeah, okay, when am I talking
Speaker 2: to you on the phone. I'm like, well okay, oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's like okay.
Speaker 3: So behind the scenes, he did call me because he
Speaker 3: sort of said, should I go to New York? Because
Speaker 3: he does he doesn't have his kids right now, so
Speaker 3: he was like, uh, should.
Speaker 6: I do that?
Speaker 4: And I did encourage him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, like Kurpe, dim do this, Like yeah,
Speaker 3: And you would have been excited, right if he jumped
Speaker 3: on a plane.
Speaker 2: Oh he was supposed to come tonight because he has
Speaker 2: his kids tomorrow, and he was I thought that was
Speaker 2: also really amazing that he was just going to hop
Speaker 2: on a plane, come and see me for dinner and
Speaker 2: then leave the next day and see his kids. Like
Speaker 2: that's like real, that's like legit. It's not like, let
Speaker 2: me talk to you after the New Year. Hope you're
Speaker 2: having a nice time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's definitely not like half assing this. He's like, I
Speaker 3: want to go out with you, which I think is great.
Speaker 2: And he's also like a real human, like he's a dad,
Speaker 2: he's he has a great job, like he's a real human.
Speaker 1: He's not you know, So what has happened since?
Speaker 4: He Okay, so he basically started texting you.
Speaker 3: Without Heather and I being able to see. So we
Speaker 3: can't see it anymore. So what have you guys talked
Speaker 3: on the phone or just text or what not yet?
Speaker 2: But he said, uh, hi, kel, I hope you're having
Speaker 2: a great Christmas and save travels Vermont. I said, Aloha
Speaker 2: is working today hopefully leaving leaving tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Vermont.
Speaker 2: How's your And then I said how's your day? He
Speaker 2: said Aloha?
Speaker 1: He loves it.
Speaker 2: He goes, Aloha working the day after Christmas is very impressive.
Speaker 2: I should too, but I started running errands and haven't
Speaker 2: stopped going to play tennis around four thirty.
Speaker 1: That's very cool. Vermont looks so peaceful.
Speaker 2: I'm watching this show on Peacock called based on a
Speaker 2: true story, which is so ridiculous, but I now kind
Speaker 2: of like it.
Speaker 1: I needed a break from the drama thrillers.
Speaker 4: Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, because I want to follow this.
Speaker 4: So he's watching it, or you're watching it.
Speaker 1: He's watching it.
Speaker 4: Oh, so he's really engaging. Okay, Okay, good keep going.
Speaker 6: That's a good show.
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm going to watch it.
Speaker 2: He's telling me what he's doing, which is like, it's
Speaker 2: not like hey, I'm He's like, this is my day, Kelly,
Speaker 2: I'm playing to mister Tennis is like playing tennis and
Speaker 2: he's watching you know, Peacock.
Speaker 5: He's also a meaty texter, like these are like yeah,
Speaker 5: little paragraphs. It's really putting some thought behind it. You're
Speaker 5: not getting the one word answer. You're not getting like
Speaker 5: multiple bubbles. You're getting like nice, little meaty responses, which
Speaker 5: I think is a good sign.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask Okay, I'm gonna finish reading that
Speaker 2: and then I want to ask you about the bubbles
Speaker 2: and the meaty texting. So remind me of that. So
Speaker 2: he said, looks Pete von Vermont, looks peaceful. He's he's
Speaker 2: watching Peacock. That we should talk over the phone at
Speaker 2: some point, right, Oh.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 3: I like that he wrote that, I know there are
Speaker 3: there are rules blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But what do you think?
Speaker 4: What are the rules? What does he mean there are rules?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Is he remember the
Speaker 1: book the rules? Remember the book?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: And I said, I'd love that exclamation point. Tell me
Speaker 2: when the house I'm saying at is an old inn.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to relax and ski. And then he said,
Speaker 2: so he goes, okay, He's like back to the date.
Speaker 2: He's like, that's nice to hear about your of a
Speaker 2: cover modifacation. But Kelly, he was like, this is text
Speaker 2: they're trying to like the president.
Speaker 1: Kelly. I like that he uses my name. But I
Speaker 1: know there is a.
Speaker 2: Time difference, So don't want to call you too late.
Speaker 2: I can try around nine thirty or ten.
Speaker 4: Oh, so you're supposed to get a call tonight.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, getting a call in like three hours? Okay,
Speaker 1: I can, I can.
Speaker 2: I can call you tonight your time or this weekend
Speaker 2: or on a chairlift or something.
Speaker 1: That was very clever and fun. That's so nice. While
Speaker 1: I'm jealous with lax, the wine chill you deserve it.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just a very also thoughtful, you know,
Speaker 2: way of understanding what I'm doing, but also saying like
Speaker 2: we're doing this per meeting.
Speaker 5: That's a that's a flirty technique he's using by saying
Speaker 5: your name in the text. That is a flirting technique
Speaker 5: to show your interest and engaged. When you continue to
Speaker 5: say somebody's name to them back and forth. That's he's
Speaker 5: very interested. This is like really good green green flag,
Speaker 5: green flag, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I like that he's scheduling the time for
Speaker 3: the call you too, that's good too.
Speaker 4: And I'm not coaching him up at all.
Speaker 3: He's doing this all on his own, other than asking
Speaker 3: me if it was like too crazy for him to
Speaker 3: come visit you soon, and I said, no, it's not.
Speaker 4: Do it.
Speaker 1: That's so cute.
Speaker 2: So here's my question about the bubbles, because okay, so
Speaker 2: my youngest daughter said, you're only supposed to have a
Speaker 2: little bit of blue and they're supposed to be more
Speaker 2: of the conversation. That's like that, that's one of the
Speaker 2: things that were that that you're you're.
Speaker 1: Supposed to do in texting.
Speaker 2: So but I so then I was like, well, okay,
Speaker 2: so I'll do like I do like one bubble, two bubbles,
Speaker 2: three bubbles and then I'll stop. But he does a
Speaker 2: meaty text like to Heather's points, So what do you
Speaker 2: I mean not that there's any rules, And again I
Speaker 2: know I'm not I'm I'm not following rules and doing
Speaker 2: whatever whatever I want in a genuine way, but just
Speaker 2: to be mindful of like people's phone time, Like what
Speaker 2: is normal protocol?
Speaker 6: I think you just said it.
Speaker 5: You do what you want. You're you're having good bab
Speaker 5: answer back and forth. You're in different time zones. I say,
Speaker 5: do what you want. It's not like you're blowing him
Speaker 5: up at three in the morning, you know, on his
Speaker 5: coast and six am where you are. You know, you're
Speaker 5: being mindful. He's wanting to actually take it off of
Speaker 5: texting and go.
Speaker 6: To a phone call. So I think that's even better.
Speaker 3: This is what I prefer about a setup versus like
Speaker 3: dating apps that I I feel it's just terrible, these
Speaker 3: dating apps that people have to use, because I think
Speaker 3: that's when you start playing this weird game and you're
Speaker 3: all like you don't know this person.
Speaker 4: It's like you you know me, I've set you up.
Speaker 4: This guy knows you he's a good guy.
Speaker 3: He has every intention of being a good guy going
Speaker 3: out with you. We know he thinks you're cute, So
Speaker 3: I think you it's easier you just be you and
Speaker 3: he's gonna be him.
Speaker 4: I think the apps are make it really hard, but with.
Speaker 5: The flow, because let's say tonight's call goes really well,
Speaker 5: then you want to like talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Talk again tomorrow, do another.
Speaker 5: Cally do right, and don't feel like, oh I need
Speaker 5: to like be less available.
Speaker 6: To like show him that I'm not. Don't don't do
Speaker 6: any of that. Don't play that. That's a game.
Speaker 5: Your daughters are in their twenties and a lot next
Speaker 5: and flirting, you have to follow that kind of protocol.
Speaker 5: When you're in your I do part two, those things
Speaker 5: go out the window.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3: Wait, okay, so first of all, we're gonna definitely have
Speaker 3: to talk to you on air tomorrow so we can
Speaker 3: find out how the call goes tonight. So just you know,
Speaker 3: try to remember, take a little bit of notes because,
Speaker 3: like I said, this is a real guy, but he
Speaker 3: has given us permission to give all the details, so
Speaker 3: we're not betraying that.
Speaker 2: No, And you know what else, I really liked is
Speaker 2: that he said, you know, we can talk tonight. We
Speaker 2: can he wants to talk tonight, but he also said,
Speaker 2: like we can also talk on the chairlift. We can
Speaker 2: talk on the weekend. Basically, it's just like we can
Speaker 2: talk anytime. Well, like some guys are like you want me,
Speaker 2: you want to talk to me on the chairlift? Why
Speaker 2: don't you talk to me when you can like really
Speaker 2: talk to me. And so he wants to like be
Speaker 2: a part of my life too, and he once he's
Speaker 2: trying to share what he's doing with his life, which
Speaker 2: I think is really really really sweet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels very loose.
Speaker 5: He's not hiding behind a keyboard. He's like, let's get
Speaker 5: let's get on the phone, like let's talk and get
Speaker 5: in like exchange energy, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 5: that's what he seems to be all about. And that
Speaker 5: is unfortunately a lost sense of communication as generations go on,
Speaker 5: more and more people don't want to just talk on
Speaker 5: the phone. And I think it's really admirable that that's
Speaker 5: what he's pushing for. And he's like, let's stop all
Speaker 5: this texting, like let's get let's get on the phone
Speaker 5: and like check vibe.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's a great, great thing too for people
Speaker 3: looking for their I do part two.
Speaker 4: It's like we're all old, so.
Speaker 3: Go back to the way it was like we are
Speaker 3: of the generation that did not even have texting when.
Speaker 4: We were, you know, in college or even shortly after.
Speaker 4: So it's like, get on the phone. So, Kelly, Cheryl
Speaker 4: Burke is here.
Speaker 3: I want you to bring her up to speed, see
Speaker 3: if she's got any thoughts. And let's also see if
Speaker 3: we can encourage Cheryl to maybe try to set up
Speaker 3: good luck to you guys.
Speaker 2: All right, so I'm bringing in my new bestie, Cheryl Burke. So, Cheryl,
Speaker 2: I have to tell you that Amy and Heather introduced
Speaker 2: me to a really nice guy and I'm calling him
Speaker 2: mister Tennis. We've been texting back and forth. We're gonna
Speaker 2: be talking on the phone tonight. I'm or may not
Speaker 2: have sent him a photo or a video of me
Speaker 2: walking my dog Tars.
Speaker 1: And yes, I did that yesterday.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 2: He's super cute, very smart, super very smart, which is
Speaker 2: like really good for me, has kids and he lives
Speaker 2: in LA but he also works in New York. So
Speaker 2: he's like a good guy, like a guy that I
Speaker 2: could actually really.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 7: Did he send you pictures?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, and he's very good looking.
Speaker 2: I also know that Amy and Heather may Or may
Speaker 2: have may not have introduced him to you.
Speaker 7: Wait, I was gonna I was gonna break.
Speaker 8: I was gonna break the interesting news as soon as
Speaker 8: I heard your perspective. But yes, Amy the executive producer,
Speaker 8: she definitely set me up. He was my first and
Speaker 8: last date since my divorce.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. So how was it?
Speaker 7: It was good? It was good for me to go
Speaker 7: out on a date.
Speaker 8: I wasn't necessarily like, Okay, I tried not to like judge.
Speaker 7: I don't try.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's hard not to judge a book by
Speaker 8: its cover, because we're all human, right. But we went
Speaker 8: to a restaurant in Los Angeles, and you know, he
Speaker 8: was a gentleman, and.
Speaker 7: But there was just no there was just no chemistry
Speaker 7: for me, for.
Speaker 1: Me, right for you. Yeah, he was cute.
Speaker 8: He was a cute, smart guy who seems to be
Speaker 8: he's got a good head on his shoulders. From what
Speaker 8: I was able to kind of like sess out a
Speaker 8: little bit, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's really good that you know him now
Speaker 1: I have to ask you a question.
Speaker 2: What do you think of because we don't I don't
Speaker 2: want to live in a vacuum and I trust you.
Speaker 1: So what do you think of.
Speaker 2: Introducing your friends to guys that you went out with
Speaker 2: and that you are setting them up with.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Like in our situation that do you think it's a
Speaker 2: good idea to like, you dated, he went on a
Speaker 2: date with them, and now I'm going to go on
Speaker 2: a date with them.
Speaker 7: Totally?
Speaker 1: I do too. I actually did that with a friend
Speaker 1: of mine.
Speaker 2: I introduced her to a guy that I want to date,
Speaker 2: and I was like, he's nice, but he's not my
Speaker 2: kind of He's not my cup of tea. And then
Speaker 2: I introduced him to her and weird stuff happened, but
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1: I did not know anything.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think if it was if it were opposite,
Speaker 8: like if I really liked him, let's say and he
Speaker 8: ghosted me and then you were dating him, that'd be odd.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I would say no, because I also am
Speaker 2: a friend, and I would be like, if he's ghosting you,
Speaker 2: why would I want to go out with him? And furthermore,
Speaker 2: why would I mean we're new friends, but I really
Speaker 2: trust you, So why would I like jeopardize our friendship? No?
Speaker 7: For sure?
Speaker 8: I mean like and he wouldn't be for you, right
Speaker 8: because like we're talking about like evolving and wanting to
Speaker 8: you know, step it up when it comes to men,
Speaker 8: right and a.
Speaker 2: Ghost ghosts like ghost ghosts, it's like they think it's
Speaker 2: kind of some kind of would have ghosted him?
Speaker 1: Are you a ghost her? No?
Speaker 7: No, No I'm not.
Speaker 8: I mean, first of all, every you know my number,
Speaker 8: it hasn't changed, It's been it's been my number forever,
Speaker 8: like for as long as I had a number.
Speaker 1: So did he wait? Did he respond he.
Speaker 7: Was wanting to like go out again for sure?
Speaker 1: Okay? And then did you say you just said no?
Speaker 8: I just you know, I didn't necessarily give that vibe
Speaker 8: like when I I'm pretty like you, I'm at a
Speaker 8: strong vibe. So like if I don't want anything but
Speaker 8: like a full on platonic relationship like just friends, or
Speaker 8: if I'm just not feeling you, but then I feel
Speaker 8: like he's feeling me, I make it quite obvious. I
Speaker 8: think through my body language.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're a dancer, and you're.
Speaker 8: Like, don't like we're not going to that next level, right,
Speaker 8: She's like, lean back, I keep it very like.
Speaker 2: Uh, by the way, at one point, you teach me
Speaker 2: how to dance, but that's another totally.
Speaker 1: Other conversation cast. Okay, totally on the broadcast how to
Speaker 1: make how to teach Kelly how to dance? So should
Speaker 1: you do a phone call a FaceTime?
Speaker 7: Like you should FaceTime? For sure? I wish I would
Speaker 7: have done that.
Speaker 1: So did you do a phone call or no?
Speaker 7: We went straight to the dinner.
Speaker 1: Oh you went from text to dinner?
Speaker 8: Yeah, because you know Amy. I also trust Amy, and like,
Speaker 8: by the way, so do I Okay?
Speaker 7: Like is he?
Speaker 8: I have really nothing bad to say about him other
Speaker 8: than he couldn't order his dinner right away? He was
Speaker 8: a little indecisive and that just was a trigger for
Speaker 8: me for some reason. Not and that wasn't just the
Speaker 8: only thing right wait?
Speaker 1: No, seriously, So he couldn't decide what food he wanted.
Speaker 7: Or he took a really excited about it, took a while.
Speaker 2: Was he like, I don't want the chicken because it has
Speaker 2: cheese on it?
Speaker 4: Or no?
Speaker 7: He actually ended up ordering what I ordered.
Speaker 1: He probably was nervous because you're you're pretty hell.
Speaker 7: I was nervous.
Speaker 8: I think I was there, Like I used to live
Speaker 8: down the street from Pace. I think I left my
Speaker 8: house like thirty minutes before when I could just roll
Speaker 8: down my hill.
Speaker 7: But I don't like a man that's indecisive. I just don't.
Speaker 8: And maybe he's not and maybe whatever, But like there's
Speaker 8: it was more than just that. I mean, you can
Speaker 8: just feel it right when you stay with somebody for
Speaker 8: a couple of hours.
Speaker 7: Dinner is a commitment. And I wish I would have
Speaker 7: done FaceTime first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what I was wondering too, Like, so
Speaker 2: should you do coffee? Should you do a drink?
Speaker 8: I think you should FaceTime. Doesn't he live in La Yeah,
Speaker 8: and you live.
Speaker 1: He was going to come here tonight, but he couldn't
Speaker 1: come to see his kids tomorrow. He was just like
Speaker 1: going to the date. Yeah, he was just going to
Speaker 1: pop on a plane, which I thought was really attractive.
Speaker 8: Oh really, Okay, So that's so I was going to
Speaker 8: ask that. That was my next question.
Speaker 1: I also live in New York City, where people are like,
Speaker 1: you're single. That's nice.
Speaker 2: It's like how about like, yeah, let's go on a
Speaker 2: date or let's get drinks in New York people are
Speaker 2: just like so like uninterested in anything.
Speaker 7: So so that is a turn on for you. What
Speaker 7: if you were someone to be.
Speaker 2: Excited, I mean you know and be like hey, I
Speaker 2: can't wait to you know, talk to you more, versus
Speaker 2: like people that are just like.
Speaker 1: Too cool for school and it's like, you know, you
Speaker 1: get zero read on people.
Speaker 7: Well, there's also a gray area in between what we
Speaker 7: just said.
Speaker 1: There's also that gray area.
Speaker 7: But wait, how long have you guys been talking? I
Speaker 7: just want to know a day whoa Okay, so you.
Speaker 8: Don't so for me if someone were to say that, though,
Speaker 8: it's great and I can imagine like a movie scene
Speaker 8: right from like the Notebook and like right, but it's
Speaker 8: just not real.
Speaker 7: However, it does first it's also amy. It does it
Speaker 7: not give you signs of desperation?
Speaker 2: Well, no, because I think that it's hard to meet
Speaker 2: it's hard to meet women, it's hard to meet men. Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's also like the holidays, so it's kind of
Speaker 2: a free time, do you know what I mean? It's downtime,
Speaker 2: Like okay, you know, I'm doing some stuff today, we're
Speaker 2: doing some work today, but like normally, you know, I
Speaker 2: mean yesterday I was free the day before that. I want,
Speaker 2: you know, I want did one an hour of work,
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm kind of like just spending time
Speaker 2: with my kids and hanging around and you know, just
Speaker 2: walking around, sit to the city and really doing nothing.
Speaker 7: Well then ef it.
Speaker 2: So I think that people are really like I think
Speaker 2: the holiday season, especially this period the twenty sixth through
Speaker 2: the first of January, is like peak.
Speaker 1: Peak dating time PDT.
Speaker 7: Okay, well, so is he come or not?
Speaker 1: He couldn't because he literally was going to come tonight
Speaker 1: and then he has to go back.
Speaker 7: Tomorrow, so you can't do that.
Speaker 1: No, No, he wanted to, and then he was like,
Speaker 1: I'd have to come back.
Speaker 2: He was like, I would come tomorrow, but I'd have
Speaker 2: to come back on the next day.
Speaker 1: And the only reason that.
Speaker 2: That would be something that would be super attractive to
Speaker 2: me is because he's known Amy.
Speaker 1: Since the fifth grade.
Speaker 2: So if if you were like a guy on RIAH,
Speaker 2: or if it was a guy that a friend of
Speaker 2: mine met that was like, oh my god, I have
Speaker 2: to meet her, him coming be totally different. This is
Speaker 2: like a long time friend. This is like me introducing
Speaker 2: you to a guy that I've known forever.
Speaker 8: From Like literally, that's the only reason why I got
Speaker 8: I left my house and went on a date was
Speaker 8: because of Amy.
Speaker 1: But see that's even better.
Speaker 2: You know that's he was like the reason that he
Speaker 2: got you out to do something that you weren't really
Speaker 2: in the mood to do. I love that is long
Speaker 2: distance okay for you? I mean long distance isn't exactly
Speaker 2: what I'm looking for. So you know, if this works out,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to figure out something.
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe I'll move or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I WHOA just saying like, I'm not like, long
Speaker 2: distance is not my I mean I was married to
Speaker 2: a man that was in New York twice a month
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: That does not work for me.
Speaker 7: I want do you even want to open the can
Speaker 7: of worms?
Speaker 6: Then?
Speaker 7: If you know that this is not going to work for.
Speaker 1: You, well I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't have any reason to not date people wherever
Speaker 2: they live. I mean, I'm I can my kids are older,
Speaker 2: and I can go and do whatever I want wherever
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 8: Okay, I just I'm just I'm asking you all the
Speaker 8: questions just so. You never sent a percent sure.
Speaker 2: And one of my friends was like, I think you
Speaker 2: should move to Paris, you know, because I speak French
Speaker 2: and I've lived in Paris for a long time. And
Speaker 2: she's like, I think you should move to Paris and
Speaker 2: like meet people in Paris.
Speaker 1: I'm like, by myself, okay, like.
Speaker 8: I don't think you need to move anywhere, Like you
Speaker 8: can just go to places for a few months, you know.
Speaker 2: Right, But everyone's like telling me to like move all
Speaker 2: over the place. I'm like, Okay, I'm not sure how
Speaker 2: I feel about the moving right now. I just moved
Speaker 2: twice in the past, like you know, ten months, so
Speaker 2: it's been a log moving, right, So who do you
Speaker 2: trust more for setups? Is it coworkers? Is a friends family?
Speaker 2: Like Kelly, like, you know what's interesting?
Speaker 7: Like for me?
Speaker 8: I mean, I I'm just trying to think back like
Speaker 8: my last few relationships, and that's been my own setup.
Speaker 7: I guess it's been kind.
Speaker 8: Of like like with my ex, it was because his
Speaker 8: older brother was on Dancing with the Stars and we
Speaker 8: met through the show, right, And I would say during
Speaker 8: that time frame when I was on the show for
Speaker 8: seventeen years, like there, it was a lot of that
Speaker 8: type of interaction, right, But as far as like I
Speaker 8: guess I would trust like though, my sister's never set
Speaker 8: me up with anyone, which is fine, like we've got
Speaker 8: a huge age gap nine years, but like she I
Speaker 8: trust her, you know, and I would trust friends as well,
Speaker 8: But like also I don't necessarily I think my friends
Speaker 8: in a way, my two like my close close friends,
Speaker 8: I don't think are good as far as setting me
Speaker 8: up because they have this vision in their head that
Speaker 8: what they believe this guy would should be for me,
Speaker 8: and maybe that's not and maybe it's because it's like.
Speaker 7: They're too protective, you know what I mean. Yeah, so
Speaker 7: it's like I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't I don't want to also play it safe
Speaker 8: when I date with somebody either, like there's a fine line, right,
Speaker 8: Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: So it's interesting because like when I was on Housewives,
Speaker 2: it's all women, So there's no like hot guys that
Speaker 2: you're dancing the samble with. It's like you know me,
Speaker 2: you know, like literally running away from women, like spitting
Speaker 2: at me and you know, trying to do all.
Speaker 1: These awful things.
Speaker 2: And then in real estate, it's funny because everyone's like, like,
Speaker 2: you know, Derinda, one of my co stars, she was
Speaker 2: like I met my husband, my rich husband, Richard, I
Speaker 2: told him an apartment and you know, for me, I
Speaker 2: have There's been two guys who I've sold really really
Speaker 2: nice apartments too, and I represented them as well, and
Speaker 2: I just vound it.
Speaker 1: Found it to be such a huge conflict of interest.
Speaker 2: And I would never want I'm just saying I would
Speaker 2: never I would I will Actually I would never want.
Speaker 2: I would never want them, Nor would I want my
Speaker 2: industry to think that. I mean they already do think that,
Speaker 2: but I would never want people to think that, Like
Speaker 2: there I am like showing apartments and flirting and because
Speaker 2: I'm not like that, like I'm super professional, what if.
Speaker 7: They are aggressively flirting with you? Would you?
Speaker 1: And I?
Speaker 2: This one guy said to him, and I was like,
Speaker 2: after I said, I really appreciate you. And I said,
Speaker 2: after we are finished with all the transaction and you're
Speaker 2: done and everything, if that's a time that we should
Speaker 2: you want to, you know, talk about going out or
Speaker 2: going on a date, I'd be happy to do that.
Speaker 1: And you know what, he didn't. She was weird.
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, So you want me
Speaker 2: to sell your home or you want me to help
Speaker 2: you buy a home. But then when it's like real time,
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 7: That's it's almost a blessing in disguise.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was like, no, so are you talking to anybody else?
Speaker 1: So I am talking to one other guy. I met
Speaker 1: this amazing guy in New York.
Speaker 2: He's a big, big, big he's a big doctor here,
Speaker 2: super super nice.
Speaker 1: I actually met him playing polo. He's really sweet.
Speaker 7: He's a polo player. I bet you he's where I live.
Speaker 7: In that area. There's a huge polo community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I told you I play polo. You have.
Speaker 1: I don't play polo. I am learning.
Speaker 2: I'm a big rider, and so this summer to get
Speaker 2: out of my comfort zone, I decided to learn polo.
Speaker 2: I was like, let's do something totally totally out my
Speaker 2: cover zone. Very difficult, very very difficult.
Speaker 1: It was so fun. It was really you're a.
Speaker 7: Crotch afterwards, just everything super sore.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a dancer, so you're used to moving.
Speaker 2: But I'm like the way that I ride. As I ride,
Speaker 2: like I do not move my upper body and then
Speaker 2: I just use my legs. But in polo, you're like
Speaker 2: all over the place using your arm.
Speaker 7: But did you know how to ride before the polls?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm a big I'm a big rider.
Speaker 4: Yah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is important information.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was really fun and he's really sweet and
Speaker 2: really nice. And then I was I was dating this
Speaker 2: other guy who was younger, is forty three, very very nice,
Speaker 2: very successful, very sweet.
Speaker 1: I met him through a friend of mine and.
Speaker 2: He was really great, except for he was just he
Speaker 2: was saying things and acting in a way that didn't
Speaker 2: make me feel like he was like, I want to
Speaker 2: get married. You're my You're my person, and not love
Speaker 2: bombing me in the way that like. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: known me for a long time and he's just like,
Speaker 2: I want to I want a second chapter with someone,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to be with someone like you.
Speaker 1: And that made me. I know, that sounds like a
Speaker 1: red flag.
Speaker 7: Did that give you the like creeps a little bit?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, because he's a really nice person and I've known
Speaker 2: him for a long time, and I was very I
Speaker 2: was very I was really I was really moved by that.
Speaker 1: I thought that was really really sweet.
Speaker 2: So we were having these issues where he was super communicative,
Speaker 2: but I was trying to be as well, but we
Speaker 2: weren't communicating in the same way.
Speaker 7: He needed more communication and that's different.
Speaker 1: So then I just I kind of got mad at
Speaker 1: him because he was didn't talk to me for like
Speaker 1: two days, and I.
Speaker 7: Just like, I don't have this story.
Speaker 2: I came back from LA. I came back from LA
Speaker 2: and I was like, I can't I was in New York.
Speaker 2: It was a Sunday morning. I was like I woke
Speaker 2: up around like eleven because I just come back at
Speaker 2: like two o'clock in the morning, and he was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: We're gonna have lunch and do all this stuff. And
Speaker 2: he didn't call me all day long, and then he
Speaker 2: called me the next day and was like, oh, yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: I didn't hear from you yesterday. I'm like, you knew
Speaker 2: I was flying flying back because I texted I was
Speaker 2: flying back, and he just was kind of like doing
Speaker 2: his own thing. He was kind of like making me
Speaker 2: feel bad for going to LA and working.
Speaker 1: And then he.
Speaker 2: Was like yeah, He's like we're just not communicating well,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, we'ren't communicating at all, Like and I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna I'm one thing I'm not gonna do is
Speaker 2: I don't chase men.
Speaker 1: I just don't like I'm not chasing them. I am
Speaker 1: not you know.
Speaker 2: Begging men to date me, like if you want to
Speaker 2: hang out with me and have a great time, Like,
Speaker 2: I am all for it one hundred percent, but I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna chase a man.
Speaker 1: Wait.
Speaker 7: How long did you guys date before this happened?
Speaker 1: Two months?
Speaker 7: Two and a half months, but you knew each other?
Speaker 1: Yeah, really was. He's a very nice person. So I
Speaker 1: just just like, you know, too.
Speaker 7: Much communication to turn off for you.
Speaker 2: No, not too much communication, but like, hey, if you're
Speaker 2: getting off a flight, like know that person is like
Speaker 2: getting off a flight. They haven't seen you. My god,
Speaker 2: they're super excited to see you. Make plans like I
Speaker 2: wanted him to. I want to take him to look
Speaker 2: for a Christmas tree, just to like do things that
Speaker 2: are fun. And you know, he was like sleeping the
Speaker 2: whole day, so I just was like, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: But you could just say like, oh my god, you
Speaker 2: could be like the night before ba, I'm super tired.
Speaker 2: I think I might take tomorrow off and just you know,
Speaker 2: chill out and relax. That's totally fine.
Speaker 7: What are your non negotiables?
Speaker 1: Not commune kating?
Speaker 7: Well, like not like the ghosting, Like yeah.
Speaker 2: When a guy like doesn't talk to you for a day,
Speaker 2: or you text and you're like hey, and they don't
Speaker 2: text you back.
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't work for me.
Speaker 2: When guys don't make plans like they are not like
Speaker 2: let's do something. Hey, what are you doing on a Tuesday?
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't have to be every day, but like
Speaker 2: you should have like one or two date nights a
Speaker 2: week when you're dating people then uh, you know, no
Speaker 2: drug abuse, no, you know, jail time, like you.
Speaker 8: Know, no current not currently in jail. Like you wouldn't
Speaker 8: date a menendous brother or anything.
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 7: They're hot, don't kidding, I know how to pick them.
Speaker 2: You want just you know, just things that are just
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm you know, I just just things
Speaker 2: that are not out of the ordinary.
Speaker 1: And you know, like my ex, you know, I want
Speaker 1: someone that has like.
Speaker 2: A really good job, really good parent, just you know,
Speaker 2: just overall like just good person. You don't have to
Speaker 2: be a gazillionaire, but just like an honest, real person.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I don't want.
Speaker 2: Anyone that talks about badly about their ex wives, like
Speaker 2: because everybody means you're going to talk badly about me.
Speaker 8: Or exes in general, especially when you're first dating, Like,
Speaker 8: don't bring up the exes, thank you.
Speaker 1: Just leave the exes alone, leave the exes where they
Speaker 1: are for their exes. And I don't need to be
Speaker 1: part of the excess narrative, Like I don't. I'm not.
Speaker 2: Like, just because you're dating me doesn't mean that we
Speaker 2: have to make collective decisions on everybody else.
Speaker 8: Like you're not going to tell mister Tennis that I dated,
Speaker 8: that we went on a date, right, Yeah, you are,
Speaker 8: or you know.
Speaker 1: Because you're glorious and it makes me look good?
Speaker 7: Wait you are?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course?
Speaker 7: Or have you No?
Speaker 1: No, I'm going to tonight.
Speaker 7: That's weird.
Speaker 1: It's my friend Cheryl.
Speaker 7: Do you think that's going to be a turnoff for him?
Speaker 1: No, I think he's gonna love it. I think his
Speaker 1: ego is going to.
Speaker 8: Be I about physical features before quickly before we move
Speaker 8: on to platonic relationships.
Speaker 2: Uh, physical features, you know it's nice to have. I
Speaker 2: mean I really don't have a type.
Speaker 8: Uh uh, tall, dark and handsome. You're like, okay, oh
Speaker 8: I married not tall and not as dark, but handsome.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, my ex husband had great, curly hair, wearing
Speaker 2: little glasses.
Speaker 7: Does he have to be taller than you? No, he doesn't.
Speaker 2: You don't care, Okay, No, I mean I dated one
Speaker 2: guy that was six two, dated another guy that was
Speaker 2: six one. I'm five to ten. I dated my ex
Speaker 2: husband was five nine. You know, I don't really I
Speaker 2: don't really care about the height. I just care about
Speaker 2: the person that's nice.
Speaker 7: I mean it would help though, right, like if he
Speaker 7: was hot.
Speaker 2: I mean not necessarily, because, like I mean, I've dated
Speaker 2: some really hot guys that were really.
Speaker 1: Not good guys.
Speaker 2: I've dated some hot guys like I dated this one guy.
Speaker 2: His name is Alejandro, and he was probably the nicest
Speaker 2: hum I've ever met my entire life. No, he actually
Speaker 2: took photos of me that were so beautiful I had
Speaker 2: to put them on my Instagram.
Speaker 7: They were certain tango dancer.
Speaker 2: What if you taught me how to dance and then
Speaker 2: you introduce me to this really hot dancing coach And
Speaker 2: then I was.
Speaker 8: Like, you definitely not. You're not dating a dancer.
Speaker 1: A lot of people they dancers. J Lo Madonna.
Speaker 7: Now look at them. Now, dancers are no good.
Speaker 1: Let me see.
Speaker 7: This is the thing with dancers.
Speaker 8: You have to be super secure with yourself because this
Speaker 8: is what they do for a living, is dry hump
Speaker 8: other people. So like, wow, people like j Lo right,
Speaker 8: Like that's how they do. So, like you can't be
Speaker 8: on their job. You gotta like completely surrender and hope
Speaker 8: and pray they don't cheat on you.
Speaker 2: No, no, I could never watch another man dance with
Speaker 2: woman like provocatively.
Speaker 1: I would literally have an.
Speaker 8: Answer to sleep with maybe once or twice maybe, but
Speaker 8: that's about it. You definitely need to have sex with
Speaker 8: the dancer once at least one in your lifetime.
Speaker 7: Have you had one?
Speaker 1: No? Are they gonna like throw my legs?
Speaker 8: I mean it's different strokes for diferent folks. Don't know, right,
Speaker 8: Different dancers like different things. But like they're great in bed. Wow,
Speaker 8: if they're a good dancer, if they're an actual like
Speaker 8: if their occupation is dancer, they're most likely a great lover.
Speaker 2: I love how like Cheryl is like super composed and
Speaker 2: I am, like my dress is read and my face
Speaker 2: is like orange.
Speaker 8: So maybe before you go out with mister Tennis, you
Speaker 8: should try and just have sex with a dancer really quick,
Speaker 8: just in case you guys get married. Okay, let's talk
Speaker 8: about platonic relationships and setups.
Speaker 2: Do you think that everyone has to know hold on
Speaker 2: till before you ask me this question. Everybody has to
Speaker 2: know this is like, this is real, This is like
Speaker 2: you and I our friendship has evolved from this podcast.
Speaker 2: My second chance is it has like we knew, like
Speaker 2: a new friendship now all fun friend who I can
Speaker 2: like talk honestly with, and I love.
Speaker 8: That we've never been in the same room together. We're
Speaker 8: going to Yeah, well no, and I feel super comfortable
Speaker 8: with you.
Speaker 7: So this is kind of Oh, I guess this falls
Speaker 7: under the coworker category. I guess, right, yeah, but still.
Speaker 1: Co worker friend.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, But what do you think about actual like
Speaker 8: you know, as maybe another divorced woman or just like
Speaker 8: single women in general, and friends like setting you up
Speaker 8: on platonic type of setups and relationships like that.
Speaker 2: So I have like two schools of thought about that.
Speaker 2: I met this really really cool woman today. Her name
Speaker 2: is Louise. She's like super smart, sassy, fun, you know,
Speaker 2: amazing woman, and I trust her. I don't know her,
Speaker 2: but I get a really good vibe from her. I
Speaker 2: really like her energy and I I trust her. And
Speaker 2: then I've met a lot of single women who I
Speaker 2: just don't trust. I feel like they're using me for
Speaker 2: chum and that they're like, oh, just bring Kelly around
Speaker 2: because she'll talk to the guys or the guys we'll
Speaker 2: talk to her and then we'll kind of just like
Speaker 2: take the guys from her. Or that's what happened many
Speaker 2: times that they just like they.
Speaker 1: Just use me. They're like, oh, yeah, Kelly's our friend.
Speaker 1: That happened to me.
Speaker 2: This one girl that we were friends and she basically
Speaker 2: was just using me to meet guys.
Speaker 7: Wait what so wait wait how are you?
Speaker 8: And so I don't know because we haven't hung out
Speaker 8: like that, So you are not shy right like you will,
Speaker 8: but like they use you like it's one thing to
Speaker 8: like use somebody like to.
Speaker 7: Get into the clubs. Like what I experience, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not shy this way, but I'm shy.
Speaker 7: Like like vulnerable way.
Speaker 1: Right one on one like getting to know me.
Speaker 2: Like I'm very shy like that, but I'm not shy
Speaker 2: with like opening myself up and I'm not you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not shy that way.
Speaker 7: Oh interesting, I'm the opposite.
Speaker 1: I'll be like dragging.
Speaker 7: I'll be like, where's the.
Speaker 8: Darkest corner and the most private area, That's where.
Speaker 7: I want to be.
Speaker 1: I'm like bright lights.
Speaker 7: Oh hell no.
Speaker 5: The day.
Speaker 8: If you leave it up to me to make reservation,
Speaker 8: I'm like dark corner and away from as many people
Speaker 8: as possible.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just very skeptical about meeting other single
Speaker 2: women because.
Speaker 7: You don't trust them.
Speaker 1: I don't trust them, and I feel like they use
Speaker 1: me as chump and they do.
Speaker 8: What's interesting when I heard you just say you met
Speaker 8: someone just the other day and you trust How do
Speaker 8: you trust somebody so quickly?
Speaker 1: Because I can.
Speaker 2: Tell, Like, for example, like when we're when we were
Speaker 2: filming Ultimate Girls Trip and Saint Bart's after we finished filming,
Speaker 2: the women are like, oh, here, take Kelly to the
Speaker 2: bar so she can introduce us to people, Like okay, Like,
Speaker 2: let me just take you to the bar and choose
Speaker 2: your people.
Speaker 1: I don't know them, Like why am I? Uh So?
Speaker 1: It just you know, it's just it's always kind of
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 8: How important is it to have friendships that, like solid
Speaker 8: ones that you've known for a few years, that really
Speaker 8: know you and keep you grounded during this whole like
Speaker 8: dating process.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's super important to have solid friendships.
Speaker 2: And you know, I have my like group chats and
Speaker 2: my friends. I'm like Hi, guys, Like hell, and we're
Speaker 2: going to see each other. What's happening? And you know
Speaker 2: that most of them are married, so it's hard for
Speaker 2: me to like make time with them, which I totally understand.
Speaker 2: Uh so I end up spending a lot of time with.
Speaker 1: My you know, my gay gay friends, and which is
Speaker 1: great too with my kids obviously.
Speaker 7: Is it hard to have married friends? Like does it?
Speaker 8: Does it make you want to rush the process? Like
Speaker 8: meaning like feeling the need to be in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Let's say, well, you know, it's so weird. That's a
Speaker 1: good question. Is that when.
Speaker 2: I started dating my ex boyfriend, he people were like, oh,
Speaker 2: you have a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Oh oh you're engaged, Okay, bring him, you know, bring him.
Speaker 1: We want to meet him, we want to do all
Speaker 1: this stuff.
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden he became like, you know, people,
Speaker 2: I was invited to more things because we were together.
Speaker 2: And he and he said the same thing, like he
Speaker 2: was invited to a lot more things because we were together.
Speaker 7: Right, like as couples, like a couple as a.
Speaker 2: Couple, right, yeah, And I feel like, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is.
Speaker 1: True or not. This is just how I feel. I
Speaker 1: feel like.
Speaker 2: A lot of people just don't want me to be
Speaker 2: the extra one person at the table.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I know that feeling.
Speaker 1: Because they're like, oh, it's Kelly's are they feel sorry?
Speaker 8: They don't understand how like for some like, look, I
Speaker 8: totally understand what you're saying.
Speaker 7: I hear you.
Speaker 8: It's like they feel more they feel sorry. They're worried
Speaker 8: about me, but like they don't understand because they've never
Speaker 8: gone through it themselves. As far as like being so
Speaker 8: comfortable being alone that it's almost like I don't need
Speaker 8: to worry about who I'm with or their mood or
Speaker 8: to get them to like come to a friend's dinner
Speaker 8: that's not their friends, and then like having them be
Speaker 8: so like not wanting to be there and me trying
Speaker 8: to like.
Speaker 7: Play both sides.
Speaker 8: It's just there's a lot more peace for me when
Speaker 8: I go out, actually because I just worry about myself.
Speaker 8: But there is I do definitely, like when we talked
Speaker 8: about this this last episode about how I can count
Speaker 8: on one hand my friends and just it just happens
Speaker 8: to be that most of them are divorced. But we
Speaker 8: were friends before, Like we were friends when you know,
Speaker 8: like one of them, was my maid of honor when
Speaker 8: she was also married for many years and you know,
Speaker 8: so I knew her when I was married, also met
Speaker 8: her when I was single and now single again. But
Speaker 8: like I, it is interesting because your friends change when
Speaker 8: you're single, especially as you get older, and it is
Speaker 8: Do you believe it's harder to meet people and meet
Speaker 8: other potential friends as you get older?
Speaker 2: I mean, I just found it strange that, like, my
Speaker 2: friends didn't really introduce I mean, two of my friends
Speaker 2: introduced me to some really nice people, but most of
Speaker 2: my friends, I mean, I've lived in New York, raised
Speaker 2: my kids here, you know, been here since forever, and
Speaker 2: they just didn't never introduce me to people.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if they just wanted me to
Speaker 1: be single.
Speaker 7: Why would they want you to be? Like why would I?
Speaker 2: Honestly, maybe you're thinking this, this is crazy, but I
Speaker 2: feel like they're like, oh, she's pretty, so she should
Speaker 2: just be happy with you know.
Speaker 1: She just should just gets someone based on that, I
Speaker 1: don't need to help her.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, on the opposite, if I meet someone, I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I met someone that's so great, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I want to introduce you to them, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I you know, like I'm always and I
Speaker 2: mean I said this today, like I'm typically the one
Speaker 2: that's like always taking care of people and helping them
Speaker 2: and giving them like help or if like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I found this job for you, it'd be great.
Speaker 1: I got this for you.
Speaker 7: I don't feel like that's reciprocated by your not at all.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, not at all, like like not at all.
Speaker 8: Listen, I have to say, and I've said this to
Speaker 8: you before, like my sobriety and kind of just being
Speaker 8: a lot more present, I guess, and just awake in
Speaker 8: general and not numbing through substances has really this is
Speaker 8: why I can count on one hand my friends and
Speaker 8: even that, like I have to reassess every year, like
Speaker 8: you know, and naturally it's not.
Speaker 7: Like, oh okay, you didn't pass this test, like acting you.
Speaker 8: Like weeding you out, but you know you are you
Speaker 8: are who you hang out with two you know, and
Speaker 8: it's like you're such a good person and I can't
Speaker 8: wait for our friendship to develop more because I feel
Speaker 8: the same like and I definitely don't feel like it's
Speaker 8: shocking to me to hear people use you to meet
Speaker 8: like I have never heard of such a thing in
Speaker 8: my life.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, all the time, or they so women
Speaker 2: use me to meet other men and then men sit
Speaker 2: when they meet me up they like me. They'll be like, oh,
Speaker 2: like it's a game, and they'll be like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: I just don't know if like I can handle like
Speaker 2: everything you do. I'm like, what that I work in
Speaker 2: real estate and that I have a job, and that
Speaker 2: I'm providing for my children?
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do? Not provide for my children?
Speaker 1: And yeah, am I supposed to be?
Speaker 2: It seems to me that like when I'm this is
Speaker 2: like what I'm kind of rounding up after like watch
Speaker 2: a lot of Christmas movies. If you're the victim, everyone
Speaker 2: wants to help you, but when you're trying the one
Speaker 2: that tries to be like I can handle things, I
Speaker 2: can organize things, I can try to make things like
Speaker 2: you know, something nothing into something. Then people are just like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, whatever, They'll just you know, you're just the
Speaker 2: giving tree.
Speaker 7: But not all people though, No, I know I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm just generalizing, but I feel like it's like I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm the giving tree and I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: here's a little stump.
Speaker 7: Now now, maybe stop giving so much.
Speaker 2: But you know, meeting you and talking with you and
Speaker 2: being on this podcast has changed has changed me so much.
Speaker 2: Like I'm just I'm more I'm less forgiving and I'm
Speaker 2: more like kind to myself.
Speaker 7: Do you ever go out? Like do you? Okay?
Speaker 8: Do you have different tiers of friendships? Like I definitely
Speaker 8: do so. Like I have my my friends who I
Speaker 8: can like always count on that I know will drop
Speaker 8: everything that they're doing if I need them, even if
Speaker 8: I live a few hours away from them. Right then
Speaker 8: I've got the second tier, which is like friends that
Speaker 8: maybe when I'm in LA will go out or whatever,
Speaker 8: but like they don't know everything about me. And then
Speaker 8: you've got the third tier, which is like residue.
Speaker 7: From my last job.
Speaker 8: Right like literally, and it's like we were friends because
Speaker 8: of work and we just happen to still stay in
Speaker 8: touch type thing. And when we see each other, hey,
Speaker 8: you know, like we'll say hi. We're like almost kind
Speaker 8: of weird acquaintances.
Speaker 1: In a way, you know what I mean, because you
Speaker 1: don't see each other.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because we don't make the effort. It's not because
Speaker 8: we don't see each other it's because like there's no
Speaker 8: effort being made right, meaning like it doesn't matter, like
Speaker 8: we could you just need to pick up the phone,
Speaker 8: Like it just matters.
Speaker 7: It's about who wants to put in.
Speaker 8: It's just as much work as a real like intimate
Speaker 8: relationship friendship, I think, right.
Speaker 2: And I'm a texter and so I'll like send text
Speaker 2: my friends and just like thinking of you, how's your day,
Speaker 2: how's my girl beauty?
Speaker 1: Like I just am like that's what I do. Like
Speaker 1: I'm a text story. So I'm checking with people. People
Speaker 1: never check in.
Speaker 7: Well, and some people aren't like and I have to say,
Speaker 7: I suck at that.
Speaker 1: They're just not like how are you? They're like you.
Speaker 7: Respond to that. I'll respond to that. But I don't
Speaker 7: like long monologue.
Speaker 8: Don't like even though I write monologue texts, but like
Speaker 8: I can't like when my mom goes at.
Speaker 7: Me sometimes, which I'm home right now.
Speaker 8: So these long text messages are long, like to the
Speaker 8: point where you have to hit the arrow and it
Speaker 8: goes to.
Speaker 1: The next stage like long, but like a novella.
Speaker 8: Yeah, But like there's also friends that I have that
Speaker 8: I don't need to talk to literally for months, and
Speaker 8: we're good.
Speaker 1: Right, and you just pick it up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and we don't. We don't give each other.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: I love you so much to help you have the best,
Speaker 2: best best time with your family. You are amazing and
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to tell you more about mister Tennis.
Speaker 1: Keep your keep it, keep your you know, keep your
Speaker 1: eyes open.
Speaker 7: I can't wait till you tell mister Tennis about me.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be like, she's hot, Like.
Speaker 7: You might want to think twice about that, though, I
Speaker 7: don't know.
Speaker 2: I like, I see, I like the kind of guy
Speaker 2: that you're talking about, Like, I actually like that. I
Speaker 2: think it's like charming and yeah, like it's just I
Speaker 2: like someone that like, really like is excited.
Speaker 7: You might just have to order for him though. Just
Speaker 7: take it upon yourself.
Speaker 2: Don't say solid fish done. Yeah, stay done, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. I'm going to keep you updated
Speaker 2: on my phone.
Speaker 1: Call and my dates. And we need to do stuff
Speaker 1: like fun stuff.
Speaker 7: Yes, I have room for one more friend in my life.
Speaker 1: Cheryln Kelly out of the town.
Speaker 8: That's right, via zoom via the zoom.
Speaker 1: All right, have a great holiday. Happy New Year, Sheryl,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year. Here's to us.
Speaker 7: Cheers. Cheers to us.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was so much fun talking to Cheryl.
Speaker 2: I could talk to her all day long about friends, relationships.
Speaker 2: I'm just so happy to have her as a new friend.
Speaker 2: And if you guys are interested in falling in love
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