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Speaker 1: What is up, Mets fans? We are back here for

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Speaker 1: episode number thirty two of the Mets Sub podcast. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I'm one of your co host Draftnck Mark Mark Luino

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Speaker 1: here with James Sheiano Jeter had no range normal talk

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Speaker 1: about every single Mets series that's going on, but right

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Speaker 1: now we're in between, we're in the All Star Break.

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Speaker 1: Figured it'd be a great time to go over some

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Speaker 1: of the All Star Break content a little mid season Report.

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Speaker 1: We got the Home Run Derby with Pete Alonso, we

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Speaker 1: got the All Star Game with Tywan Walker, we got

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Speaker 1: Alvarez and Brett Baidy in the Futures Game. We got

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Speaker 1: prospect reports, we got the MLB Draft. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of things that are not necessarily

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Speaker 2: Interesting introductions twice in a row.

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Speaker 1: Twice and row. You know what it is. It's like

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Speaker 1: the wedding this weekend. Here's the intro you guys are

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Speaker 1: James in again for his intro, What's up?

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Speaker 2: Mark up?

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Speaker 3: Jon's been a really relaxing week with no games going on,

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Speaker 3: nothing really to watch every night watch I mean, besides

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Speaker 3: like the All Star Game, but like I don't know

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Speaker 3: at this point in our lives, Like who cares about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when Taiwan Walker was the only guy, Like

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Speaker 1: if de Grom was pitching, I think we all would

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Speaker 1: happy Taiwan was in it, but it doesn't draw the

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Speaker 1: same reactions when Jacob de Gram's on the mound to

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Speaker 3: Definitely, Also, just the way the All Star Game is run,

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Speaker 3: not saying it's a bad thing because I want everyone

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Speaker 3: But after the third inning, like you're getting Omar Narvayaz

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Speaker 3: Mike Zunino, Like these aren't these aren't there the types

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Speaker 3: It's fine, I want them to get their shine.

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Speaker 3: Was we both predicted? Actually did you predict it?

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Speaker 3: I thought that I thought that people were kind of

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Speaker 2: Great just a great show all around.

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Speaker 3: Truthfully, watching it live, it didn't feel like there was

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Speaker 3: Pete also, it's funny that you mentioned like going second

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Speaker 3: It's been like a thirty seven hour argument this point,

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Speaker 3: it's it's so ridiculous to me that someone thinks that,

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Speaker 3: And he's always wrong about things. It was very difficult

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Speaker 2: Up right now.

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Speaker 3: I wrote it on like the notes of an article

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Speaker 3: But I just like to put it in because it's

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Speaker 3: I think it's clear as day that the road team

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm like totally about that, But you bring

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Speaker 3: At the same time, barstool Big Cat had a great suggestion.

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Speaker 2: They should have started the draft so all the guys.

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Speaker 3: The second half the first round is going on, there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Jessica Mendoz, I'll hold my tongue on that one.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna see your boy, Kyle right, Vanderbilt great

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Speaker 3: to bar that team from drafting you a second time,

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Speaker 3: and they did so with the Colorado Rockies on Sunday night,

439
00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,159
Speaker 3: which I thought was an unbelievable tidbits something I never

440
00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:08,879
Speaker 3: knew happened.

441
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Speaker 1: Unbelievable, A little bit of information that I heard for

442
00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,960
Speaker 1: the first time just as you did, and I've been

443
00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,800
Speaker 1: getting into the draft a little bit more. I also

444
00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,720
Speaker 1: think what a friggin move by Scott Boris there to

445
00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,720
Speaker 1: like no Rockies because he knew the Mets were gonna

446
00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,679
Speaker 1: get him. Apparently they had the Mets circle like, this

447
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,560
Speaker 1: is where we want to go. We want to be

448
00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,440
Speaker 1: on the New York Mets. The one team that scared

449
00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,880
Speaker 1: them was the Kansas City Royals, who took a huge

450
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,080
Speaker 1: reach on a kid, Frank Mausacato from Connecticut. I can't

451
00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,960
Speaker 1: run my head around how they took him number seven overall,

452
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,159
Speaker 1: but I wish the kids the best. I hope he

453
00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,359
Speaker 1: does great. We got Kamara Rocker.

454
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Speaker 2: I'm happy we had this conversation.

455
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Speaker 3: I said mentioned it last episode, but literally on the terrace,

456
00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,160
Speaker 3: like a couple months ago, I was I cant think

457
00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,840
Speaker 3: the Mets might actually got Kamara Rocker. You're like, yeah,

458
00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,720
Speaker 3: I think they actually might too. And it's kind of

459
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,080
Speaker 3: weird that we got to this point. But I was

460
00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,760
Speaker 3: gonna talk about this in our prospect report, but I

461
00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,280
Speaker 3: think we're just talking about Rockers. We should have a

462
00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,520
Speaker 3: nice little Rocker segment right now. There are some legitimate

463
00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,520
Speaker 3: concerns with him reaching his ceiling, and this sealing is

464
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,719
Speaker 3: an ace. Like I think Kamar's floor is a fine

465
00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,720
Speaker 3: starting pitcher. Some guy who mixes in the rotation eats

466
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,880
Speaker 3: a ton of innings, has a big frame, big body,

467
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,120
Speaker 3: and he does great for you when you're picking from

468
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 3: the tent slot. Just getting a rotation piece is a win.

469
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Speaker 3: And we have chastised the Mets for the David Peterson

470
00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,320
Speaker 3: scatting in selection a couple of years ago, but it

471
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,240
Speaker 3: still is a win that this guy's made to the

472
00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,760
Speaker 3: major leagues and already killed like one hundred and fifty innings,

473
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Speaker 3: whatever it's been, and he does have more.

474
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Speaker 2: Stares to climb.

475
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Speaker 3: But the one issue with Kamar that a lot of

476
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Speaker 3: scouts have called to concern is the shape of his fastball.

477
00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,600
Speaker 3: Now I've talked about this a lot on this podcast

478
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Speaker 3: throughout this year that you kind of want to see

479
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,359
Speaker 3: guys with a fastball that rides. The fastball that rise

480
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,160
Speaker 3: means it has a lot of backsmen, and it gives

481
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Speaker 3: the illusion that it's going up.

482
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,000
Speaker 2: As it could reaches the batter.

483
00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,480
Speaker 3: Really, all that that means is is not dropping with

484
00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,719
Speaker 3: gravity as most other pictures do. But the ball spins

485
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,120
Speaker 3: so much that it appears gives the illusion that's rising

486
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Speaker 3: up through the strike zone. Kamar doesn't really have that.

487
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,480
Speaker 3: Kamar's fastball has some armside run, which means as a arriiety,

488
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,760
Speaker 3: his fastball will kind of like has cut ever so

489
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,000
Speaker 3: slightly in towards the right handed batther, Like, do you

490
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 3: see the same thing as me in the Scauting report, Right.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have not heard as much about like the

492
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Speaker 1: run being an issue, but more so about like they

493
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Speaker 1: don't like the shape of his fastball, which you've been

494
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Speaker 1: saying it doesn't rise. That's the one thing. And while

495
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Speaker 1: watching Kamara Rocker as the season goes on, even when

496
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 1: he's pitching well, his fastball is.

497
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 2: The pitch that gets hit one hundred percent.

498
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Speaker 1: It's weird because it's it's a good pitch, like you

499
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Speaker 1: throw like he does with that size. It's a good

500
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 1: pitch no matter what. But there were good hitters at

501
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,199
Speaker 1: the college level, Like there's this guy Tyler Black who

502
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 1: got drafted in like the compensatory round by the Milwaukee

503
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 1: Brewers out of right State, who caught my attention because

504
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 1: he smoked a Kamar Rocker fastball early on in the season.

505
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Speaker 1: So it's hittable, but I feel like if there's any

506
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Speaker 1: place to come with the fastball that needs a little help,

507
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Speaker 1: the New York Mets is a great spot.

508
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

509
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Speaker 3: That's where I was gonna go with this now because

510
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Speaker 3: a lot of people have talked about how long it's

511
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Speaker 3: going to take Kamar Rocker to reach the Mets, and

512
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Speaker 3: I saw our friend Joe DeMeo put his expected the

513
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Speaker 3: arrival in twenty twenty two. I think if you want

514
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Speaker 3: to get the most the Kamara Rocker, we as Mets fans,

515
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 3: need to be patient and allow that fastball to develop

516
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 3: in a way that can make him legitimately one of

517
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 3: the best pitchers in baseball, because that is inside Kamara Rocker.

518
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Speaker 2: That's possible.

519
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Speaker 3: I think he's been a little bit worn down because

520
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 3: he's thrown tons of dings of the last four years.

521
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Speaker 3: End of high school, he won a College World Series

522
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Speaker 3: already Vanderbilt. He threw some crazy long games. He crossed

523
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 3: one hundred pitch threshold a lot before he turned twenty one,

524
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 3: more than most kids do, and as Velasty has taken

525
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: a hit because of that. Late in season, especially this

526
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: most recent one, he looked so more though this college

527
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: World Series. It seemed like he was a completely different

528
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 3: guy than back in twenty nineteen.

529
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Speaker 1: I think it's fair too, because you mentioned Vanderbilt, like

530
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 1: they go deep into the College World Series every year.

531
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Speaker 1: It's like the Lebron James effect in basketball, where like

532
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 1: he's played like an extra three or four seasons because

533
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Speaker 1: of all the playoff games. Kamar Rockers pitched a little

534
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Speaker 1: bit more because of all the postseason games with Vanderbilt

535
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Speaker 1: in the College World Series. And you talked about this

536
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Speaker 1: with pitchers just in Major League Baseball, that they're going

537
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Speaker 1: to hit a wall at some point because they didn't

538
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 1: get that full season. Kamar Rocker is gonna be in

539
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Speaker 1: that same boat. He didn't get the full season last year,

540
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Speaker 1: so he's pitching on a little bit of a weaker

541
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Speaker 1: arm than he normally would.

542
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Speaker 3: Definitely, and we even saw a Jack either have a

543
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: mid season swoon this year and didn't affect his his

544
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 3: draft prospects, similar to Kamar. And it just is very

545
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Speaker 3: important that, like I said before, the Mets fans are

546
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Speaker 3: patient because besides the Slyther, I'm assuming that the Mets

547
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 3: go into his repertoire and basically redesign every single pitch like.

548
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Speaker 1: The curveball is good. The slider and curveball are two

549
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: like good pitches, Like the sider is I think the

550
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 1: best pitch that he has that's is incredible. It's like

551
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 1: nobody touches it, nobody hits it. And the curveball is

552
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: really really good too. Change up only works because it's

553
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: his fourth pitch, it's its worst one, and you still

554
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: have to be weary of ninety seven, you know, ninety

555
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: six wherever he's coming at you with. But they're definitely

556
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna do some retooling with him. The mechanics, which is

557
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: really nice to hear, aren't really a problem because you

558
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: can get a big guy like this, he's six foot five,

559
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: two forty five. You get worried about the mechanics. Pretty

560
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: clean mechanics, not much to you know, tinker with their.

561
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: But we we have a guy that has such good guts. Again,

562
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: like top five talent arguably in this draft class, arguably

563
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: one of the top college pitchers in the nation. There's

564
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: so little that you really have to fix. It just

565
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: feels like people saw bigger holes than might have really

566
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: been there, you know, because it's like when you see

567
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 1: was it like the veil was taken off of Kamar

568
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: Rocker because he started to get hit a little bit.

569
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Speaker 1: So I feel like people were trying to find problems

570
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: when in reality they're ignoring all the stuff that's right

571
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: in front of their face and being like this, dude,

572
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: you don't find this often. Like he's getting like the

573
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Speaker 1: best MOLB comparison that I've seen relatively, because it's hard

574
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Speaker 1: for a lot of players. Noah Cindergard with the kind

575
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: of stuff that he had, like throws hard, hard, slider,

576
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: all that kind of.

577
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 3: Stuff, And the Syndergard comparison is actually good because Cynderguard

578
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 3: has had trouble creating ride with his fastball as well,

579
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Speaker 3: and we've already seen that Cinderguard can be very good,

580
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 3: but without the fastball, with elite ride, with that perceived

581
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: rising action, you kind of limit your ceiling. We saw

582
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: that with Wheeler while he was on the Mets. You

583
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: see that with guys like I wrote in their notes,

584
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Speaker 3: like Joe Musgrove, Framber Valdez, our guy Tyler McGill, who

585
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 3: and another guy Alec Minoa who just recently made his debut,

586
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: who has a similar like frame to Kamar Rocker. I

587
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 3: tiny bit smaller, but he's like a thick boy. But

588
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 3: these are all guys who have succeeded with multiple secondary

589
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: offerings that they can rely on. Especially No it's kindergard.

590
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: We've seen his color, we've seen slyder, We've seen a

591
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 3: curveball like. There is a couple of different types of

592
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: pitchers that Kamar Rocker can become, and I think it's

593
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: going to be fascinating to see where the Mets decide

594
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: to go with his development, because it might not be linear.

595
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure step one with Kamar is going to be

596
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: let's get this fourteen fastball goaling, let's get your active

597
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 3: spin up, and let's make this ball rise. That might

598
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: not work exactly well. His first couple starts wherever he

599
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: lands in the minor leagues, and I don't even know.

600
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Speaker 3: I kind of want to talk about that too, because

601
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 3: he is older and much more experienced than most guys

602
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: who are being drafted. But there's gonna be some retooling

603
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: happening here. So if you see some bad starts, if

604
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: it comes over Tweter that Kamar Rocker walked for guys

605
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: or gave up three home runs in the game, you

606
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 3: have to have patience. You have to realize that there's

607
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of adjustments made with this guy,

608
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: because this is like an unbelievable piece of clay. We

609
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: have top of the line clay, Like you're hitting that

610
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: pothery wheel and you're gonna get like such a magnificent

611
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: bowl as long as you just take your time the edges,

612
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: use a little bit of silts, like get your hands

613
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: nice and wet and make something nice and beautiful out

614
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 3: of Kamar.

615
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you want to talk about like where

616
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: he could possibly start, there's a few ways the Metski

617
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: get really aggressive, you could pull the Marlins and you

618
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: could do start him in double A. Yeah, that's what

619
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Speaker 1: they did with Max Meyer, and it's worked out beautifully.

620
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: Max Meyer is tearing up double A to the point

621
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Speaker 1: where this if this was a Marlin scene, that's competitive.

622
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: I would think Max Meyer has a shot to get

623
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Speaker 1: called up this year to be a guy out of

624
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Speaker 1: the bullpen.

625
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: At least the Angels did the same with read Debt

626
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: Mars and it's going crazy.

627
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: And these are both college guys that through beginnings for

628
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: their teams. Redetmers from Louisville, who was considered to be

629
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Speaker 1: the last best or second best left handed pitching prospect

630
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: in the draft last year behind Ace Lacey, who was

631
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: the other guy who was gonna bring up. The Royals

632
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: put him in High A this year. He's another one

633
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Speaker 1: of these like really big dudes like Kamar Rocker, who

634
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: like started started low you were talking about, like, look

635
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Speaker 1: at the performances that Kamar is gonna have. Lacy not

636
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: having great performances, but you still see the guts are

637
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: there because he's still striking out like fifteen batters per

638
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: nine innings, because he has that kind of stuff. Kamar's

639
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna be in a similar thing. Emerson Hancock the guy

640
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Speaker 1: you want to talk about High A as well. With

641
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: the Mariners. Now, they just have an absolutely loaded farm system,

642
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit different probably with them. But

643
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: I would think that he's got to start in what

644
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: Brooklyn's are High A, right.

645
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: I would probably assume that, I think maybe Saint Lucy,

646
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: just because that's where the Mets have their training academy.

647
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: So I think that it would just be logical to

648
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: give him like a month down there, and then if

649
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: he dominates or he at least shows the signs in

650
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: the offseason, you put him right to Double A. Next

651
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: year and if he is does still need like a

652
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 3: little bit more seasoning, then you send him to Brooklyn.

653
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

654
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: I just think that there's gonna be more work done

655
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: with Kamar Rocker in a lab than on the.

656
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: Field at first.

657
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: And this is probably a lot of baseball fans that

658
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: sounds kind of weird for, but this is the way

659
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: the game is going, This is the way player development

660
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: works now, and I think that Kamar will stand to

661
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: benefit a lot from the type of like high level

662
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: informational training that the Mets.

663
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 2: Are going to give him.

664
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: You got to remember that we don't want Kamar Rocker

665
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: to be where he's at right now. Where he's at

666
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: right now, we'd be a very serviceable starter at some

667
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: point in his career.

668
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: Mark could be a high leverage believer tomorrow for the team.

669
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: Yes, but we want him to be that next ace,

670
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: next guy to come up with Matt Allen and JT. Ginn,

671
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: who we're gonna talk about in a little bit here.

672
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: We want those to be the next three headed monsters

673
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: that the Mets got in the pitching rotation. So we

674
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta treat Kamar right. We don't want to

675
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: rush him up there's no reason for it right now.

676
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: He's not needed just yet, which leads us, I think

677
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: now into where does he go in the ranking for

678
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: our farm system, because we got Alvarez, Mauricio, Alan Batty

679
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: PCA top five. Where do you think Kamar drops in

680
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: your eyes? I have an idea where I'm gonna put him.

681
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see where you go.

682
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: For me.

683
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: I'm ranking Kamar as our number three overall prospect and

684
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: our number one overall pitcher, just ahead of Matthew Allen

685
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: because I want to see how he responds to the

686
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: time of John surgery, and ahead of JT. Ginn because

687
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: he's really only just starting to come into his own

688
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 3: and these rankings are always gonna be fluent. These could

689
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 3: be completely different at the end of just this season.

690
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: But I think the combination of ceiling and floor on

691
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: Baby and Alvarez, and that just comes from being positioned players,

692
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: especially Baty, because I think those are the two who

693
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 3: are going to be contested. Those are the two who

694
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: are right there next to each other. Baby, no matter

695
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: what seems like, he's just gonna be a very competent

696
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: major league hiter who plays an adequate third base and

697
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 3: eventually when now the d age is probably going to

698
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: exist next season, Like he will have a major league

699
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: role very soon and you can't really shake that. And

700
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: his ceiling will be like a thirty five ish home

701
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: run power threat with an average that doesn't kill you.

702
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: That alone right there.

703
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 3: Just that ceiling combined with floor just will put him

704
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: ahead of a pitcher who I think still has a

705
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: very wide range of outcomes.

706
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really depends. I think you're probably gonna see

707
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: it all over the place. I think MLB pipeline is

708
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna put him too. I think that they're gonna just

709
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: they they love to hype up prospects, like especially draft

710
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: guys in the top ten. They flooded the top twenty

711
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: five last year with top ten guys last year, and

712
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: I think that this draft class has some better arms sometimes,

713
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: so I think Kamar will probably go to two, and

714
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: then Baby three, Allen four. I mean that's a pretty

715
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: good top four right there.

716
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: Though.

717
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: We're feeling good right now.

718
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: The Mets top like six or seven, in just about

719
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: eighteen months has gone from something that we were like,

720
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: uh to one of the like the probably more coveted

721
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: systems and all of baseball.

722
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: It's interesting how Khalil Lee came over like from that

723
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: Royals trade and went like right into numbers seven to

724
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: begin with. And this guy's probably gonna be like outside

725
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: the top ten as the season goes on, just because,

726
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: like we have had so many risers and so many

727
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: like additions and guys that we got more out of,

728
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: which is always a great thing. Because we're so used

729
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: to Mets prospects kind of just just kind of shit

730
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: in the bed a little bit. We're a little bit

731
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: different now. Desmond Lindsay, dude, don't even come on, please,

732
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: why you gotta bring up Desmond Lindsay. We gotta go

733
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: through Eddie Kuns another big right handed picture that turned

734
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: out to be nothing. The list goes on and on.

735
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: But this is a new agent Mets World, and another

736
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: reason why we don't have to rush Kamara Rocker like

737
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: some other teams might be doing with their pictures, because

738
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: we have money. We can go get pictures. Well, buy

739
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: a new picture. We'll buy two new pictures. It doesn't matter.

740
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: This isn't gonna be a free agency preview because we

741
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: have a whole second have baseball to play. But these

742
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: guys are prospects for a reason, like they need to develop.

743
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: They're not finished products. Besides, like maybe Jack Lye or

744
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: probably be in the major leagues.

745
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: Next year, it's gonna take a while. It should take

746
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: a little bit of time.

747
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: If it doesn't take a little bit of time, that

748
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: means just he's just so sensational that we can't hold

749
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: him back any longer. That'd be a great thing. But

750
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: just don't think about Kamar Rocker for like six months.

751
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: All Mets fans, I know you're gonna want to. He's

752
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: very popular. Come me on Twitter a lot. Put them

753
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: out of your head.

754
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Look how long it took for the Dodgers to call

755
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: up Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, like a lot of those

756
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: guys like yeah, your yes, they bavied him forever.

757
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: It took your res three years in the major leagues

758
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: to actually get near his potential that he's reaching this year.

759
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: And he even like is like that big thick boy

760
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: Like Rocker and him and Dustin May, they need a

761
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: completely new fastballs to reach their potential. And you saw

762
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: like a glimpse of May. You're seeing it to this

763
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: entire season. That with ureeas it takes a long time.

764
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: With pictures, it takes so long with pitchers. Pitching prospects

765
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: take a billion years to develop. Jacob de Gram is

766
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: reaching his ceiling at thirty two years old. Yeah, he

767
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: was drafted ten years ago.

768
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: Max Suers is having his best season arguably at thirty five.

769
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: Adam Wayne Wright's for the best season of his career.

770
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: Pitching doesn't make sense. All you gotta know is that

771
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: it takes time. It takes time. You gotta let a

772
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: marinate a little bit. And then some of the other

773
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: draft guys that the Mets took second and third round arms.

774
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: It was a very arm heavy draft. And when Calvin

775
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: Ziegler and Dominic Hamill. Dominic Hamill out of Dallas Baptist

776
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: University DBU and Calvin Ziegler is a Canadian fella up north,

777
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: but he went to like some school in Florida, I

778
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: think for high school as a prep guy. I know

779
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: you were really doing your research on to these guys.

780
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: I look through them quickly. Hammill reminds me a lot

781
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: of like how Lucas Giulio, Robbie raythrows real short arm

782
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: action kind of stuff. Calvin Ziegler is a small dude,

783
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, close to the ground, but he has got

784
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: some thick legs and he uses them.

785
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Calvin Ziegeler has what we call a strong base.

786
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: He is six feet tall, eighteen years old and two

787
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: hundred pounds. That is a beefy boy for his age.

788
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: So it's probably not that much growth left on his frame.

789
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: So he's probably maxing out. His velocity is at right now,

790
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: but he does He will sit the mid nineties and

791
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: he can touch the high nineties.

792
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: Both of these.

793
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: Guys, Hamlin Ziegeler are analytical darlings. They're both high spin,

794
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: high ride, high rise forcing fastballers, which the exact ops

795
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: were talking about Rocker. We got with these two, there's

796
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: no telling exactly how high they're going to go, Like

797
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: the secondary is our question mark for both of them.

798
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: Hamil does have four pitches, but I read a gathering

799
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: report on fangrafs that his slider and curveball, while having

800
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: a lot of spin, look like basically exactly the same

801
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: because they have so many RPMs already, small adjustments will

802
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: probably allow them to move differently, become separate. He's a

803
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: guy who's thought while only throwing ninety two to ninety

804
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: four miles an hour can be projected as a mid

805
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: level star there, and Ziegel's a guy I'm really excited about.

806
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: He doesn't have really a secondary that he can hang

807
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: his hat on right now, but the fastball is explosive.

808
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 3: Touching ninety seven is an eighteen year old who has

809
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: never I don't know what the high school baseball scene

810
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: is like in Canada, but I'm assuming this is like

811
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: now all the way like America.

812
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the height like. I know that

813
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: there's actually a lot of really good baseball players in Canada,

814
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: like the I want to say, like the club scene,

815
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: like au baseball is actually very strong up there. I

816
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: don't know about high school baseball that I know nothing about.

817
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: Basically the fact that Ziegler only did have one year

818
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: at like a real American baseball academy and he already

819
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: has this type of these type of physical traits.

820
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: I think something the Mets fans to be excited about

821
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: both of.

822
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: These guys getting into the system at relatively young ages.

823
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of development to have there

824
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: again and be patient, but I think that there's a

825
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: good chance at least one of these guys hits.

826
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: I think what's really interesting about Ziegler two is that

827
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: when you usually get these smaller pitchers, you know, excluding

828
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: Jacklider and like Bryce Jarvis and these kind of like

829
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: different upper echelon guys, you start talking about second and

830
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: third round picks. As these smaller pitchers, you're usually not

831
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: getting a guy who already sits in the mid to

832
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: high nineties, Like that's not something you typically find. Usually

833
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: find a guy who's sitting in ninety one to ninety two,

834
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: really good control, four pitches. Ziegler's a little bit of

835
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: a different mold here. He's a guy who throws hard,

836
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: doesn't really have the control necessarily, it doesn't necessarily have

837
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: those second pitches, but they like the guts of him.

838
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 2: Like the guts of him.

839
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: And again, he has the fastball that we covered one

840
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: of the reasons that Jack Laider boomed so much this

841
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: draft season. Along with all of his crazy stats, his skills,

842
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: his stuff, his repertoire, he has that fastball. You don't

843
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: have to do any development to that fastball, and you

844
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: can just focus on those secondaries. If you're in the

845
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: laboratory focusing on secondaries, it'll probably come. As long as

846
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: you're a hard worker and you're with a legitimate organization.

847
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: Zeglad definitely seems like a hard worker, and the Mets

848
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: are definitely good organization.

849
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: Sam goes for Dominic Hampbell.

850
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: I was very excited about both these picks, I think,

851
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: especially because the Mets kind of had to shoot underslot

852
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: because of how much money Kamar Rocker needed to be signed.

853
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: These were two very high upside plays and laed the

854
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: Mets to really have what I think was one of

855
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: the best pitching drafts in all of baseball.

856
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Mets did something really interesting this

857
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: year with their draft is. Of course, like you mentioned,

858
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: they had to play a little bit I don't want

859
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: to say safer, but as you mentioned to me before

860
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: the podcast, they went after guys who almost had down years,

861
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: but it had been somewhat I don't want to say

862
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: coveted before, but people were interested in them before. Christian

863
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: Scott reliever out of Florida, really strong arm. Not the

864
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: best year. Florida baseball in general kind of just had

865
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: a shit year. They got a lot of college arms.

866
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: They took this guy Mike Vassel, who the story was

867
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: I think like three or four years ago when he

868
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: could have entered the draft out of high school got

869
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: some really bad info and was like, don't take it.

870
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna get more after you go to Virginia. Went

871
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: to Virginia, didn't really perform that well, but he's got

872
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: some stuff too. They drafted a lot of really big,

873
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: strong dudes that are pitchers out of college that at

874
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: the absolute worst, looks like they can make an impact

875
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: in the bullpen at some point, like in the near future.

876
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: Definitely.

877
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: And we have to give some credit to just the

878
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: Mets Gangs department because the last handful of Mets drafts

879
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: have been unbelievably good. We've had a lot of talent

880
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: coming through the system pulled from the drafts. I'm sure

881
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: we've cleaned the house in between, but I would hope

882
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: there's been some holdover, because damn have we made some

883
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: good selections the middle rounds.

884
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: Of recent drafts, And I don't know. I think there's

885
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: a lot to be excited about it.

886
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 3: Thinking about Christian Scott too, he's been a high leverge

887
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: believer in the SEC already. He throws mid to high nineties.

888
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: He had an awful, not awful year, but he really

889
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: tailed off the second half. This just seems like a

890
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: great by low opportunity.

891
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: The Mets bought low. It feels like at every single

892
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: pick almost yeah, even Kamar, who technically bought low because

893
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: he dropped a ten and this was supposed to be

894
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. The Mets took guys with

895
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: the upside that we know that their pitching department can

896
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: probably get out of them, but right now their performance

897
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily show it just yet. And that's what you

898
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: that's what we've been begging the Mets to do with

899
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: just players in general, specifically you with Ryan Cordell last year,

900
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm just wishing the Mets would find some

901
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: guys that do this one thing really really well and

902
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: try to change, try to make them into what they

903
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: wanted to be. Stop taking like these old the dudes

904
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: that we know are on their last legs of their careers.

905
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: Get the guys that do something well something, And it

906
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: seems like they picked at every single spot a guy

907
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: that had something that made sense.

908
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: Definitely, this was a call to action that we've both

909
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: been making all season at the Mets are one of

910
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: these organizations now who gets more out of guys rather

911
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: than less, so you can take more risks, you can

912
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: get more risky types of players. I just had the

913
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 3: same thing twice, but I'm trying to really hammer home

914
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: what i want to say. We're going to be able

915
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: to elevate players for the future, so higher potential with

916
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: higher risk is not necessarily a bad thing anymore with

917
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: the Mets.

918
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be really interesting to see how these

919
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: guys play out. I'm gonna be keeping a close eye

920
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: on them, of course, because I love to invest in

921
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: cards and check out how the Mets farm system is doing.

922
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: And if any of them start to do well, we

923
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: will keep you posted. You know, we always do. Every

924
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: midweek episode we do our prospect Report, so you know,

925
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: make sure you keep listening if you're interested to see

926
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: what these Mets draft picks are going to be doing

927
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: over the next few weeks. A Mets draft pick from

928
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: last year, though, who kind of went another of the

929
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: radar JT gin JT tangare as you like to say,

930
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: which I think is a fantastic nickname to coming off

931
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: Tommy john surgery looking really good, and I think this

932
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: is why the Mets played it safe a little bit

933
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: last year with their picks. Pek Armstrong was a good one,

934
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: but then they like took some other guys for like

935
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: the absolute minimum so that they could pay JT. Gin.

936
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: And it looks like it's gonna work workout so far.

937
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: It really does.

938
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: And if anyone out there investing cards family that there

939
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: is in deeper dynasty league, because this is the time

940
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: to get JT. Gin because the hype train has just

941
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: started to roll and it's about to leave the station.

942
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 3: He's coming off the best start of his professional career

943
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: last week at Saint Lucy. He threw six innings, struck

944
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: out ten batthers, no walks, no weren't only four hits,

945
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: And most importantly, I have the entire stat line. He

946
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: topped out ninety six miles an hour, the hardest ball

947
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: he's thrown all year. This is a stud in the making.

948
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: He lost the year development due Tommy John surgery. The

949
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: Mets took a gigantic risk, and it already seems like

950
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: it's gonna pay massive, massive, massive dividends. He has it

951
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 3: all going on.

952
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: And I think this would go back to the draft.

953
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Weirdly builds into Gunner Hoglin from Ole miss being trapped

954
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: in the first run by the Blue Jays. He got

955
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: Tommy John to end the season, so he's gonna miss

956
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: an entire year as well. Kind of similar to JT. Gin.

957
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Teams are not showing that they're as scared anymore about

958
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: these arm injuries because we know this surgery is getting

959
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: better and better every single time it's being done. You

960
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: can find as you can find a nice diamond in

961
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: the rough here, and the Mets might have done with JT.

962
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: Gin.

963
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: He was really really good in college, but the injury

964
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: scared everyone. Now that he's healthy, we're getting that same

965
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: player that people were freaking out about just a few

966
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: years ago.

967
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

968
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: And people do always say the first thing that comes

969
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: back after Tommy John surgery is your velocity because guys

970
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: are just so geared up and they want to throw

971
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 3: as hard as they can. And that has now basically

972
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: all the way come back with Gin. It's crazy that

973
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: they were calling him Gin the whole season. His name

974
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: is really again. But I do just love j T.

975
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: Tanger Ray. That really rolls off the tongue. As long

976
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: as we can get that branding. I love if we

977
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: could be sponsored by Tanga Ray.

978
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, Tanger hit us up. Someone's gotta be working

979
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: for an alcohol company.

980
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, us and Snoop Dogg.

981
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: But the thing that he had been lacking, and he

982
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: We've mentioned this on previous prospect reports, was control of

983
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: the secondaries. He's a fastball slider, guy's working on the

984
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: change up. I haven't heard that many reports of whether

985
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: it other bad yet, but I'm assuming not because I

986
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: haven't heard about it. Having these types of strikeouts with

987
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 3: no walks in the game means that that slider is there.

988
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: It's active, even in in a low way.

989
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 3: You're not gonna strike out ten guys with no walks

990
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: with a ninety five nine six on their Fastball's still

991
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: professional hitters. Some guys can at least make contact with

992
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: that pitch. If that slider's doing what it does, like,

993
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: this guy's floors continues to go up and up and

994
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: up and up, and once that change up.

995
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: Comes along, ninety six coming in. This guy's a limit.

996
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: Doing really good on the pitching side. I feel like

997
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of all we really got though.

998
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: For that Lineries, that was all I had.

999
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: It's been the pitching. We don't have that many great

1000
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: pit exciting pitches down low.

1001
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: Right now, which would explain also why we went so

1002
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: pitching heavy in this draft. Trying to find somebody. It

1003
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: all makes sense because all the notes here, the rest

1004
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: of it's heading, like Brett Bady moved up to double A.

1005
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: He's still a beast. Viento's blazing hot. I mean we

1006
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: talked about them a little bit last episode. Those guys

1007
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: just continue to stay hot. And Vento's thank you for

1008
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: getting hot the right time, because I think you're on

1009
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: your way out. I think you're gonna be a nice

1010
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: trade piece for us.

1011
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: Dude, I think so too.

1012
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: Viento's he has had such a torrid month that he

1013
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: actually now has the highest w RC plus in the

1014
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: entire Eastern League of any player twenty one or younger.

1015
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: Jumped ahead of Riley Green, Tiger super prospect, be a

1016
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: Riley Green's ball player.

1017
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: He's a be ahead of him. He's a beast.

1018
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: And Viento's right now is a higher WRC plus n,

1019
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: which is that's the composite hitting metric. That's the best

1020
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: way to judge you against your peers, and Buck is

1021
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: he crushing the.

1022
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: Ball, crushing it. Thank you for your service. I'll see

1023
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: you on the Chicago Cubs once we get Chris Bryant,

1024
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: because I think that's happening. Mauricio and Alvarez still in Brooklyn.

1025
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: Mauricio is cooled off quite a bit, yeh, not hitting

1026
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: like he was at the beginning of the year. But

1027
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: he's still such a big, like gangly dude. I'm sure

1028
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: it's just a little bit of growing pains here. He's

1029
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a slow developer. It seems like, if anything.

1030
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: Definitely, and I think that, well, you think it might

1031
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: be Viento's I think Mauricio is the guy who has

1032
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: been hand picked to get moved, just based on the

1033
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: simple fact of logic that he has not tried out

1034
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: any position besides shortstop this entire year. I figure that

1035
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: he was a big piece of the Mets future plans

1036
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: after giving Francisco Indoor a ten year contract. You're assuming

1037
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: it's not gonna take Mauricio ten years to develop.

1038
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: He is not that slow.

1039
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: No, you would probably either try him at a third

1040
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: or in the corner raftfields. But given the fact that

1041
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: the Mets kind of have a glut now of these

1042
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: third base corner raflfield types in the system, not really

1043
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: corner Raffield because they're just gonna start moving third basem

1044
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: into the corner raile field like Brett Bay and Viento's

1045
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: because now that they're playing together, bingham them, the other

1046
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: guy has to play somewhere. Well, one guy's at third,

1047
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: and just makes sense to play guys in the corners

1048
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: because that's gonna need some corner oilfielders soon. Seems like Mauricio,

1049
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: the Mets playing him as shortstop is like somewhat of

1050
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 3: an audition for other teams to be like, this guy

1051
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: can still play shortstop.

1052
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: He does still have the top twenty prospects ceiling.

1053
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: He can be like a guy who fills out, becomes

1054
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: like a Corey Seeger type thick boy with good lather agility,

1055
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: but the results just really haven't been there for him.

1056
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: He's also like, despite not really playing that well of late,

1057
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: we know he started off the season hot because we

1058
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: were like, wow, there he is. Finally. I feel like

1059
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: he's still got room to grow with that potentially, because

1060
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: potential is pretty high right now. I think people are

1061
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: still super high on him. I don't think the Mets

1062
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: have to rush him out though. When you have a

1063
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: guy like Viento's who, like in all honesty, is probably

1064
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: not to beat out Brett Baty, I think it's gonna

1065
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: be so tough for him to do that, Oh, it would.

1066
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: He would have to be Brett Bailey playing to his

1067
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: floor and Vianto's playing somewhere near his ceiling to beat

1068
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: out Brett Baby, because even as good as Vianto's has been,

1069
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 3: the strikeouts are always going to be there with him.

1070
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: Even during this massive hostreg He's still striking out twenty

1071
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: two percent of time. Massive improvement for the guy. But

1072
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: striking out twenty two percent of the time just for

1073
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: a stretch in double A means that you're gonna have

1074
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: thirty percent k rights to the majors. You could win

1075
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: like that. Players do that, you could be useful. But

1076
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: Baby's a guy.

1077
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 2: Who makes way more contact, the hit tol the hit

1078
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: tools far better than Viento's.

1079
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: Even though still not lead, Marisio still doesn't really have either.

1080
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: We've seen the eggs of a last season, We've seen

1081
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: the power for the first time in his professional career.

1082
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 3: But he's just not able to do that with.

1083
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: Play discipline, with consistent contact.

1084
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: It's very weird package and Marisio has and something that

1085
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: should really just means that he stays at Brooklyn's entire season.

1086
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I not that this should dictate any moves,

1087
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: But I feel like the Mets also don't have any

1088
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: shortstop outside of like no Lindor and him, so like

1089
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: we got rid of Rosario and we got rid of

1090
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: him and as kind of someone just in case, and

1091
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: it feels like Marie. I don't know, at least in

1092
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: my eyes, unless we're getting I feel like someone with

1093
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: like legit control, it's not gonna be Mauricio. Like I

1094
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: think the Cubs would happily take Vento's and somebody else

1095
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: for Chris Bryan at this point.

1096
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: But the idea with Mauricio, the fact that's taking so long,

1097
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 3: it seems like it will continue to take long. You're

1098
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: not going to see him in the majors for at

1099
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: least three years, as is Ooho.

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00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: Three years. I think that might be tough. I think, like,

1101
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: what are we in twenty twenty one? I can think

1102
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: you can see about the tail end of twenty twenty.

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00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: Three, Okay, so basically three years.

1104
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: That's also if he plays well.

1105
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 3: So I see what you're saying, Yeah he's yet it's

1106
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: been two years running now, Mauricio has not been at

1107
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: or above league average in a ball between Loway.

1108
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: And Hie Saint Luci and Brooklyn. There's still allowed development

1109
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: to go.

1110
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: He just can't seem to have played discipline and power

1111
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: at the same time, like they go separately. Both can

1112
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: exist for periods, and he can hit this.

1113
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 2: Shit out of the ball. You see those videos on Twitter.

1114
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 3: The exit velocity readings are very positive for what he has,

1115
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: but putting it together is not doing it. It's not

1116
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: also doing anything for organizational depth that shortstop. Yeah, like

1117
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: he's not good enough to to like make way the

1118
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: major league and just figure that out for a few weeks.

1119
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: It's nothing that he can lean on right now. He

1120
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: is a complete Hivarius player.

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00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: He can physical specimen.

1122
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he he kind of is like in the O'Neal

1123
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: Cruz mold or on Cruz is an exaggerated man of this.

1124
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: And he also on a cruise is walking ten percent

1125
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: of the time this whole time running Mariese's electric to walks.

1126
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: This guy's either going to be a superstar or it's

1127
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: just not gonna happen. And at this point where the

1128
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: Mets are is a team currently, I'm super chill with

1129
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: moving like trading him if it means getting a legit piece.

1130
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, which it very well could, and I think the

1131
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: Mets front office has shown that they're very competent recently.

1132
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: If they're gonna move in Risio, I'm sure it's not

1133
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: for a rental and like Chris Bryant or something like that,

1134
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna be. No, it's gonna be a

1135
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: big piece.

1136
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: It'll be like a Barrios or a te Martemcalaxton. Yeah, Buckson,

1137
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: No one's talking about Brian bucks again, trade on the

1138
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: why no one's talking about it.

1139
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: I just think there's probably no shot.

1140
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: He's gonna be walking next year anyway, Just sign him,

1141
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: I guess.

1142
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: I think people also get a little scared about Buckston,

1143
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: where he's just like he's got glass bones. He's part

1144
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: of that. He does have glasses. It ball touches him

1145
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: and he's hurt.

1146
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: It.

1147
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: Like most of his injuries like have been freak things.

1148
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 3: He did have the hamstring early in the season, which

1149
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: you hate those soft tissue injuries.

1150
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: But there's just a lot of freak injuries.

1151
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: Like sometimes you just put yourself in position to get injured,

1152
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 3: and Brian Buckson seems to do that time and time again.

1153
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: It's like when Aaron Judge slides, he just can't slide.

1154
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: Fly and just can't slide. Baron Judge slides, He's off

1155
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: the next day. You gotta be careful when Aaron just slides.

1156
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: Some other prospects that we'll talk on here before you

1157
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: go into a Pittsburgh Pirates preview. Alex Ramirez, your boy, Yeah,

1158
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: doing so hot. In fact, he's doing pretty cold. Yeah,

1159
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: he got really cold after he just got really hot.

1160
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: So it's kind of been like three different ten game

1161
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: stretches Ramirez this year where he was really bad and

1162
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: he was like really good. Now he's really bad again,

1163
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: hitting under two hundred with a fifty percent care rate

1164
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: in his last ten games.

1165
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: Not great.

1166
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen. He's eighteen years old. He is younger

1167
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: than Jossn Dominguez, and everyone's like pissing their pants. He

1168
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: finally got called up to Low Way. Alex Murer is

1169
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: younger everybody.

1170
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: He's young.

1171
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, let's get on the rum Miror stream.

1172
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm storry to see him like sprinkles way

1173
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: into some Mets top ten prospect list.

1174
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: Helped people are mb Pipeline see people starting to give

1175
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: him some credit there.

1176
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 3: Just remember I had him first and it's gonna be good.

1177
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: Can take a very long time, really long time.

1178
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: No, he's a long way away, and Khalil Lee maybe

1179
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: a little closer than we thought he's he's stuck in

1180
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: that group of the four A players that a lot

1181
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: of guys are in right now where he tears up

1182
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: Triple A and has seemingly actually no clue what to

1183
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: do at the major league level. As we saw in May.

1184
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: We know he's not that kind of player, but we

1185
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: also know he's not the player that we see in

1186
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Triple A. What are we gonna get a Khalil Lee?

1187
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. We do know he's a good glove though,

1188
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: do you know's good glove?

1189
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: And he has prodigious power. The home run he hit

1190
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: on Tuesday night and Sarah Hughes, my god, you walloped it. Wow,

1191
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: Hurshed you heard that thing in Ithaca.

1192
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: It's he's like got the Franchie Cordero syndrome a little

1193
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: bit where it's like he does everything that you see

1194
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: in one in like a vacuum and you go holy shit.

1195
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: But then you see the overall player and you're like, ah,

1196
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: there it is. He swings to missus. Fifty percent of

1197
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: the time.

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00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 2: That's kind of been Mauricio too. These last couple weeks. Bekain,

1199
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: you see Cordera's working at their at first base of

1200
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: the Red Sox.

1201
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: They're trying to find any possible way for him to

1202
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: get into a lineup, and.

1203
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: He's dying to get him up. But yeah, we're not.

1204
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: This is a Red Sox podcast, a Mets podcast.

1205
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: No, it's talk about the Mets. Let's tuk the Pirates previews.

1206
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked this whole episode about the Mets, minor

1207
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: league's and mess draft. We have a big second half

1208
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: coming up. We've gone forty minutes about nonsense. Basically, let's

1209
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: talk about this team because we are about to go

1210
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: the fuck off.

1211
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: We have to. We have to, and we always, i

1212
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: feel like recently have been playing well in Pittsburgh, like

1213
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: the last few times that we've been there. If we

1214
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: just smack him around, because well they're the Pirates, let's

1215
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: do that. Let's go in there and smack them around.

1216
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: We got our three best pitchers going. This is a sweep.

1217
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: We got we gotta sweep here. There's I'm gonna go

1218
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: out on a limb here and say if we don't sweep,

1219
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: that's a bad series.

1220
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: I agree with that, especially the fact that we've got

1221
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 3: to customize our rotation to have our three best dudes

1222
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: going one to three Stromans pitching Friday, Taiwan coming off

1223
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: the All Star Game. As long as he's good, which

1224
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: he should be after pitching one inning, he's gonna pitch Saturday,

1225
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: and Jacob de gram The giving him the full week

1226
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 3: off now ten days off, mister mister diva over here.

1227
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: But I think they're kind of moving.

1228
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: To ground back because he's gonna line up to pitch

1229
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 3: like bigger games.

1230
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: Now.

1231
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: He's pitching this Sunday, he's gonna pitch Friday night at

1232
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: City Field against Toronto. He's gonna pitch it the middle

1233
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: game of our five game series with the Atlanta Braves

1234
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: that span Monday through Thursday towards the end July. And

1235
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: they're gonna catch him for a Phillies game a Friday

1236
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: night in Philadelphia if all this schedule lines upright, and

1237
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: then another game against the Nationals afterwards. So it seems

1238
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: like the Mets push to ground back a few days

1239
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: to give him the rest he deserves, of course, and

1240
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: also so we make sure we have him for some

1241
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: important divisional bouts coming up.

1242
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we don't want to look too far

1243
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: ahead because we kind of almost simplarly did that with

1244
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: the Pirates series, and what do you know, we split

1245
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: with them the first time around. But there's just absolutely

1246
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: no reason we shouldn't just shiit down this team's throat.

1247
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: They're not very good. We're better than this team, and

1248
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: every facet of the game, you gotta win. And something

1249
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna help us hopefully win is JD. Davis is

1250
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: coming back.

1251
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, forgot about him.

1252
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: He's been tearing it up in the minders in his

1253
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: rehab games, so that's good to see. He's a good hitter.

1254
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: He's a really good hitter.

1255
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 3: This team needs a right hand to bat, and I

1256
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: think they're gonna want to get a load of j T.

1257
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: Davis. J said JT. I was thinking about jtgin Tangaret.

1258
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: They want to get loaded with j JD can do

1259
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: before they really dive headfirst into trade negotia.

1260
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: Which, uh yeah, you think Jay just get weird here.

1261
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: You think JD could be a part of a package

1262
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: if we're gonna get a third baseman, I think probably.

1263
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: I think if not, this is kind of gonna sound crazy,

1264
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: But I think JD is like low Key. If he

1265
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 3: has not a good second half, he proves he really

1266
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: can't play third low Key and non tender candidate in

1267
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: the offseason. Interesting the mesas are gonna have Domessa, you

1268
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: think to have such a crowded roster of guys to

1269
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: do very similar things. Maybe JD can find his soul

1270
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: back in the outfield when we need him at some point,

1271
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: even though we know he's not very good there. He

1272
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 3: did not make the jump on defense that Dom has.

1273
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: But this team, at the end of the day needs

1274
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: a right handed power back, and JD will provide that.

1275
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to look too far ahead, j I

1276
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 3: want JD to play well.

1277
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: Yes, no, definitely, and I think he will. He's a

1278
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: good hitter. He's only ever matched when he's been a

1279
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: part of this New York Mets team, So it'll be

1280
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: good to add him back into this lineup with Nemo,

1281
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: with McNeil, with Alonzo, with Dom Smith, with Confordo, who

1282
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: hopefully wakes up in the second half. McCann I forgot

1283
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: about Francis school indoor. That guy exists. He's been hot.

1284
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: He's pretty good PS above seven hundred. Finally, for the year,

1285
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: which is not good, but hey, it's a step forward

1286
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: in the right direction. He's been one of the better

1287
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: offensive shortstops in the league the last month and a half.

1288
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: So top twenty WRC plus and baseball over his last

1289
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 2: forty games.

1290
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: Yep, and you saw the S and Y article by

1291
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: John Harper. Do you see that?

1292
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: I saw you tweet it, but don't I don't want

1293
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: to give S and ys journalists any credence.

1294
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be our bad Mets take since we haven't

1295
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: done that a little bit here he gave grades for

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Speaker 1: like the big players on the Mets. Jacob de Gram

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Speaker 1: obviously gets an A. Gave Francisco Indoor a D, which

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Speaker 1: I think is extremely harsh, extremely harsh, And he gave

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Speaker 1: Luis Rojas a B, which I also think is harsh

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Speaker 1: B plus. I still think that's harsh. I think deserves

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Speaker 1: an A. And people were like, you think Rojas deserves

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Speaker 1: an A. M tell me why he wouldn't you know

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Speaker 1: what this team played with.

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Speaker 3: It's very clear that you and I are probably Luis

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Speaker 3: Rojas's two biggest fans, at least on Twitter, in the

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Speaker 3: world at this point, which I just think that people

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Speaker 3: need something like I said at the beginning of this podcast,

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Speaker 3: come a full circle. People need something to blame, people

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Speaker 3: need a reason to say why is this happening? And

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Speaker 3: he gets blamed with tons of losses.

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Speaker 2: They shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I think guy's on a fantastic job, fantastic job with

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Speaker 3: this team. He's a wonderful manager. I think growing into

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Speaker 3: the role so beautifully. He seems like the guys love him.

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Speaker 2: I like him. Management seems like him a lot. He's great.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, Don maddingly essentially managed with

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Speaker 1: an exact same team last year, like with like for

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Speaker 1: a month and a half and he won the Manager

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Speaker 1: of the Year and the Marlins finished five hundred and

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Speaker 1: only made the playoffs because of the extended playoffs. Luis

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Speaker 1: Rojas kept this team in first place for eight weeks

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Speaker 1: with that roster. Come on now, Like, I don't understand

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Speaker 1: the disrespect for him, and with Lindor the d Greatest

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Speaker 1: just so bad. He's elite defensively, and even though he's

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Speaker 1: not giving you the traditional numbers that you want and

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Speaker 1: his ops is still a little bit low, he's had

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Speaker 1: a great month and a half. He's still getting on base,

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Speaker 1: he's still making an impact on this TEAMD is a

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Speaker 1: negative impact.

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Speaker 3: An incredible impact of Francisco Indoor's top three in Baseball

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Speaker 3: Savant's Metric OAA. On the infield, he's getting to everything.

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Speaker 3: He's made a couple bad throws, at least he did

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Speaker 3: back in April and May, and my dad said he's

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Speaker 3: not ready.

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Speaker 2: For New York. But the guy is so good in

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Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 3: He's been He's been the steady contributor in this lineup

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Speaker 3: all year. While he wasn't always hitting, he was always

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Speaker 3: getting on base.

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Speaker 2: He plays baseball the right way.

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Speaker 3: He's gotten tons of clutch hits, which some mess fans

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Speaker 3: completely forgot. All the clutch hits you've gotten, which is

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Speaker 3: beyond me. It's really egregious to think about.

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Speaker 2: But hey, for that nod.

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Speaker 1: B, I said I'd give him a ceed just because

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Speaker 1: we had higher expectations. But I felt like D was

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Speaker 1: just like bad and I also are people. People were like,

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Speaker 1: the contract, with that contract, you expect where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: he's technically not on it yet, so you know that

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Speaker 1: doesn't actually even matter.

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Speaker 2: Still, the arbitra slaty let's good call.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I think that's what we're gonna wrap up

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Speaker 1: this episode here of the Mets the Podcast, episode number

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Speaker 1: thirty two. Thank you so much for listening. Guys, do

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Speaker 1: Up Podcast. I'm your co host Draftnick Mark Mark Luino

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Speaker 1: here with James Sheiano Jeter had no range on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Follow us both there. I think that's where're gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: it up. Guys, see it next time after this pirate series,

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Speaker 1: hopefully a sweet peace out.

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Speaker 2: Big second half coming. Thanks for listening.