1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder. Sure is 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House, 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: the crumbling world what it means for you. I'm Garrison 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Davis today I'm joined by James Stout and Robert Evans. 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: You sure are lucky you this episode, we are covering 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: the week of June eleven to June eighteen. 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, the greatest week of all time. Actually, 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: it sucked, terrible week. 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: No, we are probably getting closer to a war with Iran, 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: which is not good. 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: No, great, Yeah, We're at least getting more and more 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: involved in Israel's war with Iran. I guess we can 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: probably start by talking about that. Yeah, So this situation 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: as it stands. First off, I just want to note 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 3: that I don't think the worry here is World War three. 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: I don't think the worry here is global thermonuclear war. 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: I think the worry here is the US allows itself 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: to get involved in an other boondoggle overseas and contributes 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, largely civilians, 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: because we again continue to back Israel to the hilt, like, 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: that's that's the threat. I'm seeing a lot of Oh 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: my god, the World War three is coming, and I 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: just don't think that's the thing to be focused on. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: The thing to be focused on is like a massive 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: expansion of the bombing of urban areas in Iran. You 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: know the fact that Trump has been talking at all 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: about evacuating a large segment of Tehran, which is about 30 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: as populous as the Los Angeles metro area and not evacuable. 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 5: Yes, ten billion people. Yeah, yeah, where are they going, buddy? 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: There's just no way to really do that, is It's 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: really bad now when it comes to does Iran have 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: a nuke, well, they say they don't, and no one's 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: presented any evidence that they do, Like at least officially, 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Iran stopped their nuclear development program in like two thousand 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: and three. There's you know, always in Israel has always 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: been claiming that they're continuing to work on it in secret. 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: You know, we don't have a good a good context 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: for exactly how much work there is going on. But 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: Iran has been per conservatives in Israel a week away 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: from having nukes for fucking my entire adult life, and 43 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: then some so I don't see any evidence that they're 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: further along to that goal than they were in twenty 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: or in two thousand and three, and until presented with 46 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: that evidence, my assumption is going to be that most 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: of these claims are. 48 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 4: Based on lies. 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: Now, the strikes that Israel has carried out are mostly 50 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: it's a mix of assassination strikes like attacking the homes 51 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: and whatnot of scientists and of people who are involved 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: in the Iranian government who can be particularly people who 53 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: may have some ties to their weapons development programs. They've 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: also just been striking a lot of heavily populated areas, 55 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: kind of under that agis. There's been claimed strikes and 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: some definite strikes on what at least were research facilities 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: and nuclear research facilities. 58 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 4: There's very little. 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: Evidence that the strikes they're carrying out could deal with 60 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: the kind of deep underground research foracilities that Israel claims 61 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: is where Iran is making most. 62 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: Of their progress. 63 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: Which is why there's a lot of talk about the 64 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: US getting involved, because we have these munitions that are 65 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: specially designed to go much deeper than anything Israel has, 66 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 3: but they have to be launched from a B two, 67 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: which is like our big stealth bomber that might theoretically 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: be able to reach this big underground research area that 69 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: Iran is supposedly doing their nuclear research in. 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: So that's kind of. 71 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: The direct reason why Netan yahoo once the US involved, 72 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: and that's kind of the most credible speculation is to like, well, 73 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: if the US starts getting involved, what would we do? 74 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: What would be the first direct act that we'd carry out? 75 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: And it might be something like using a B two 76 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: to drop one of these bunker busters in Iran. 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, people have been speculating wildly about various separatists groups 78 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 5: in Iran, right, both BLOK and Kurdish. 79 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 80 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 5: I have seen a number of photos that are more 81 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 5: than a decade old circulating with the claim that they 82 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 5: are happening currently. That not for what it's worth. I 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: don't see the US allying with with Peyak or the 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: No Kurtis Dan Free Life Party that's still listed a 85 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: foreign terrorist organization. Obama did that and it hasn't come off. 86 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 5: So it would be quite a swing for the for 87 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 5: the US to first delist them and then immediately sort 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 5: of do what they did with the with the PYD 89 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: in Western Kurdistan. Right, So don't see that happening in 90 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 5: the near future anyway. It's anything's on the table with 91 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 5: the Trump administration, right, But yeah, I think some of 92 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: that speculation is maybe not grounded in reality. There are 93 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 5: other It's kdpis PAK right, these is sort of more 94 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 5: amenable to the American political outlook Kurdish groups. But again, 95 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 5: I don't see anything to indicate that the US is 96 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 5: attempting to arm and equip a proxy force to do 97 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 5: like land warfare in Iran. 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 99 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we could be a few days, we could be 100 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 5: a few weeks away from that, but then there's not 101 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 5: indicating it yet. 102 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 103 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: And there's a couple of things people will bring up 104 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: whenever they think that the US is about to go 105 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: to war with Iran or someone else. One of them 106 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: is like the Pentagon dominoes order, like basically the dominoes 107 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: near the Pentagon, Like how busy it is, right, the 108 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: idea being that they order a bunch of pizza when 109 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: everybody's going to be staying in staying up late in 110 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: order to carry out some sort of a strike or 111 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 3: a deployment. 112 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 4: And the other that. 113 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: I've started seeing is like photos of lobster being served 114 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: at various bases, and people being like they only serve 115 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: lobster when they're about to deploy everybody, Neither. 116 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: Of these is accurate. 117 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Pentagon pizza thing is a common myth, but 118 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: you can find one hundred cases. Sure, you can find 119 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: a couple of cases where pizza sales surged and we 120 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: were carrying out some sort of attack and one of those. 121 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: You can find one hundred times where pizza case, like, 122 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: pizza orders surged and nothing happened because like someone had 123 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: people had to stay overnight to get some compliant shit 124 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: ready or whatever. Like the fact that people are ordering 125 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: pizza at the Pentagon, they do it for reasons other 126 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: than war. Or ditto if you talk to anyone who 127 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: was deployed, surf and turf and lobster are served with 128 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: some regularity at a variety of bases, and it doesn't 129 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: correspond necessarily to any kind of mass movement or activation. 130 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: You need to actually, like look at the degree of 131 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: time it took to get the forces ready that we 132 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: moved in with to invade Iraq in two thousand and three, 133 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: because it was a massive logistical effort and it was 134 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: super obvious what we were doing because hundreds of thousands 135 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: of people had to be moved around the world with 136 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: massive amounts of materiall. And what you're seeing right now 137 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: is you're seeing a lot of our refueling planes, like 138 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: you're seeing a lot of those moving into the area. 139 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: And we're moving the Nimitz carrier groups with second carrier 140 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: group into the area. But those don't say to me, 141 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: we're about to have tens to hundreds of thousands of 142 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: ground troops invading Iran. Those say number one, as we 143 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: were doing previously, we're expecting a lot of incoming towards Israel, 144 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: and we are going to continue to help shoot down 145 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: that incoming. And number two, and this is kind of 146 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: the most extreme thing that I see right now. We're 147 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: going to be either directly supporting or carrying out airstrikes 148 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: in I run and both of those are possible based 149 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: on what we've seen. But what we're not seeing is 150 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: full scale military evidence of a full scale military deployment. 151 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 3: We're just there's just not evidence of that yet. 152 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: Well, especially because the entire military is busy with more 153 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: important matters, like it's poorly marching in a line in Washington, 154 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: d C. Including rolling over, rolling over, a woman in 155 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: a tank, I believe. 156 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they killed a lady with Well it wasn't in 157 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: a tank, it was the truck carrying the tank. 158 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: There you go, which is fucked up. 159 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's only it's only the Soviets rollover people with tanks. 160 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: In America. We put tanks on a truck, rollover with that. 161 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: So this past Saturday we saw Trump's birthday party military parade, 162 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: also celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the 163 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: US military. Meanwhile, across the country, in almost every major city, 164 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: there was quote unquote no Kings protests in protest of 165 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: the Donald Trump military parade event. I think they renamed 166 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: them no Tyrants garrison to uh except yes, to not 167 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: piss off Kings. Yes, yes, in the in the countries 168 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: where there are monarchies. Yeah, the No Kings organization renamed 169 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: renamed their protests to no Tyrants. 170 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 5: You'll need to hang your fucking head and shame if 171 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 5: you're doing that. Shame, I think. 172 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: But before we get to what's sucked about this, we 173 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: should talk about some stuff that I think was good planning. Yeah, 174 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: for official number one, it was smart to hold a 175 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: bunch of mass demonstrations the weekend of his birthday in 176 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: order to make that not the main story, and also 177 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: to kind of it further highlighted the fact that his 178 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: the big military parade looked like shit, Like this was 179 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: not that was not that's not like bad planning, right, 180 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: like you want to do it And the distract and 181 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: the fact that these were so large is not bad, right, 182 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: It's not enough. It's a start point, not an endpoint. 183 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: And there's a lot to be worried about here, including 184 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: the fact that they have no real demands, clearly, which 185 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: you can kind of see from the fact that they 186 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: went from no kings to know tyrants when they were like, well, 187 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: now there's going to be some sympathy protests and places 188 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: with kings. 189 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: We're going to have the some kings protest. 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: Maybe just hold the line that kings are bad homeie. 191 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I will say again, like timing 192 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: was not bad, and the number of people they were 193 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: able to mobilize, the scale of the demonstrations, these are 194 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: good things. And there's costs for some optimism here. So 195 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: I don't I never want us to just be like 196 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: shitting on people trying to do stuff. So let's start 197 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: by saying like there were some good stuff here, there 198 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: were some good calls made. There were also some bad 199 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: calls made, and we're going to talk about those now. 200 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think if I just give an overview of 201 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 5: the violence used against protesters and then we can get 202 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: into a couple of these incidents. 203 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, absolutely so. 204 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 5: I've been trying to collate a list of arm threat 205 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 5: I'm aware of arm threatened Phoenix, where the person was 206 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 5: arrested in Pueblo, where the person was I guess suppressed 207 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: by like people at the parade, armed people at parade, 208 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 5: and then arrested. Nashville the person was arrested and had 209 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 5: a shotgun with some pretty concerning right wa shit on it. 210 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: Is that the one that had bombs or was that 211 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: the Phoenix guy? 212 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 5: I think I'm not aware of the I haven't read 213 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 5: about the bombs. The guy in Nashville had a moss 214 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 5: Berg five hundred with like one three one and Dais 215 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 5: Voult and yeah, yeah, yeah, all kinds of right wing 216 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 5: shit and some I had a Curtis yarb in Dark Enlightenment. 217 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: Patch Jesus, Yeah, not great, good week for courtisyar of it. 218 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, big pr okay, Yeah, No King's protester, 219 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: the armed man arrested at the protest in Pennsylvania. 220 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 5: Okay, that's another one. 221 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 4: Had more than a dozen explosives at home. Kevin Krebs. Yeah. 222 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, so we've seen that's four armed attacks right Pennsylvania, Phoenix, Pueblo, 223 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 5: in Nashville that I'm aware of that maybe more. It's 224 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: been kind of hard to collate these, and when we're 225 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 5: recording pretty shortly after those protests happened in Los Angeles, 226 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 5: the artthreat came from the cops who tear gassed people, 227 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: shot them with impact munitions, trampled them with horses, and 228 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 5: hit them with billy clubs. 229 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: It's the same thing in port We had a mass 230 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: rally in Portland, like the No King's rally, which was 231 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: like mostly fairly safe and kind of like more lib 232 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: and oriented, family friendly, and then that did because there 233 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: were so many people out in like the eight to 234 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: ten thousand range. You got a much larger demonstration at 235 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: the ICE headquarters building in McCadam in Portland than we'd 236 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: been seeing. There have been demonstrations there for a while, 237 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: but they've mostly been in the dozens. And there were 238 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: on Saturday, like six hundred people or so at the 239 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: height of that, and so folks managed to actually breach 240 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: the door of the facility briefly. On several occasions, BORTTAC 241 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: officers pulled their live firearms and pointed them at the 242 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: crowd like unholstered handguns, and in one case is a 243 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: pistol calendar car mine aimed. 244 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: Them at people. 245 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: A nurse who was showing up there to do protest 246 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: medic stuff got shot in the eye with a less 247 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: than lethal munition. So just a tremendous amount of violence 248 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: and something like thirty four arrests so far over the 249 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: last few days. Yeah, protests continue at the ICE headquarters. 250 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 251 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: Similar situation in Atlanta where there was arrests at the 252 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: big protest on Saturday. To your gas, people were charged 253 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: with wearing a mask at a protest, which is a 254 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: crime in Georgia. It was rescinded during the pandemic, but 255 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: now it is being enforced once again. 256 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: San Diego's go ahead. I was just gonna say, you know, what, 257 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 4: isn't san Diego our sponsors. 258 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: Hopefully he can never tell mate. 259 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, and we're back. 260 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm aware of like Bebe five vehicular rammings across 261 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 5: the week or so attacks with vehicles at least one 262 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 5: person in a coma. San Diego's protest, by contrast, was 263 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 5: I've seen various numbers, but extremely safe, very very like 264 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 5: lib coded. I saw a post from the police congratulating 265 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 5: the protesters on a peaceful protest day. So it went 266 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 5: down differently here. I have been denied my press bus 267 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 5: by the city of San Diego because they exempted podcasts 268 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 5: when we were mean to Todd Gloria. 269 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: They really got pissed at that, didn't they. 270 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, we got him, man, We got him. So parking, 271 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 5: what's a motherfucker for me? Because I don't have one 272 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 5: of the press parking placards. It's only caught the tail 273 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 5: end of that. 274 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: We continue the igadapenir tradition of getting into rivalries with 275 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: various municipal governments. 276 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: They all hate us. You got to wonder why, man, 277 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: because we're doing our job. 278 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, which is increasingly rare in the media these days, 279 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 5: especially the local media in San Diego. You can read 280 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: my Patreon piece about the local media and the mayor. 281 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 5: If you want to, let's talk about Salt Lake City, right, 282 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: Salt Lake City. This was first reported as like a 283 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 5: prevented mass shooting. Should we like break down the timeline 284 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 5: of events? How do we want to process? 285 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 286 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: So basically what happened at the event right is there 287 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: was a person in all black carrying an AR fifteen 288 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: A member of now the five ZHO five oh one organization, 289 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: and this was a five oh five oh one protest 290 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: has uniformed by saying, by uniform to me, they're wearing 291 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: like yellow hypas vests, but they've got they've got marked security. 292 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: All of these are volunteers, per their own claims, these 293 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: are mostly like veterans and first responders in people with 294 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: that kind of relevant experience. One of these protest security 295 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: people saw this person carrying an AR at the protest. 296 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: There's no evidence that this person took violent actions, that 297 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: they were aiming their weapon at anyone, that they were 298 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: doing anything other than marching in a matter that is legal. 299 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: It is legal to open carry. There's no evidence that 300 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: I've seen that the person that they saw with the 301 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: AR broke the law. Protest security pulled what I believe 302 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: at this point to have been a concealed handgun and 303 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: opened fire. They wounded the person with the AR fifteen 304 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: and they hit and killed an unrelated person who was 305 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: just at the march and who was not the person 306 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: that they were aiming at, and killed that person. 307 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. That person was called author Falosa Alou. 308 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: Yes, they are a fashion designer of Samoan ancestry with 309 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: two children. Yeah, and they died on the scene. The 310 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: person who was carrying the air fifteen is the second 311 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,359 Speaker 3: generation of Venezuelan immigrant and a long time anti fascist 312 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: activist who was wounded, and they are currently being charged. 313 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: The person who was shot, not the person who did 314 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: the shooting, is currently being charged by law enforcement. And 315 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: basically in the same manner is that like if you 316 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: rob a corner store in the police open fire to 317 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: stop you and they hit and kill someone else, you 318 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: will get charged with murder, right, And the argument is that, 319 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: like you started the crime, and there's you know, an 320 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: argument to be made there when you actually did do 321 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: a crime. But again, this individual, there's no evidence whatsoever 322 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: that I've seen that they committed a crime. 323 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 324 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: Utah's an open Kyrie state, right, Utah is an open 325 00:15:59,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: Carrie state. 326 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: Eight. 327 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: None of the video footage I have seen, none of 328 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: the evidence I have seen whatsoever suggests that this person 329 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: was threatening anyone at all with their firearms. Now, I 330 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: heard from some sources in the Salt Lake community, and 331 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: these people had seen the individual with the air fifteen 332 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: at previous demonstrations. They forwarded me some photos of this 333 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: person in twenty twenty at protests, open carrying and dressed 334 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: basically the same as they were dressed at this protest. 335 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: They told me this was the person was kind of 336 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: known in the community. They were not like super deeply 337 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: tied in. They had noted that they seemed a little 338 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: awkward with their gear back in twenty twenty, and that 339 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: in general maybe they were like a little bit of 340 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: like kind of an awkward person, or at least that 341 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: was the vibes that these folks got. And they were 342 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: dressed more radically than was common for the rest of 343 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: the protest right. They were wearing all black, they had like, 344 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: I think a bandana on their face, and their suspicion 345 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: when they reached out to me was like, yeah, we 346 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: think maybe he was dressed too militantly for a liberal march, 347 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: and he was like adjusting his kit or something, and 348 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: one of the security people's got spooted an open fire. 349 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: Now. 350 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: The five oh five oh one organization's first statement was that, 351 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 3: you know, basically this had been a crime that had 352 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: been averted, and the fact that someone else had been 353 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: shot and killed was like deeply tragic, but like protest 354 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: security had you know, taken action. And then within a 355 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: few hours of that they were like, actually, it's become 356 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: clear we don't know exactly what's going on here, so 357 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 3: we're going to continue to wait to hear what's happening. 358 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 3: But obviously, you know, the presence of guns is what 359 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: caused this in the first place. Some more information has 360 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: since come out, including five h five oh one's guide 361 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: for Dealing and de Escalating People with firearms for their 362 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: marked Security, which is quite bad, like to say the least, 363 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 3: like deeply inadequate and quite racist and quite racist. There's 364 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: a part in it where there's like a bunch of 365 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: where it's talking about like the different kind of body 366 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: language that can show you someone's about to get violent, 367 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: and there's just like some clip art of non white 368 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: people with guns. I don't know why they put the 369 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: clip art in. Yeah, it's bad, it's really fucked up 370 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: in awkward. I have reached out for a statement from 371 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: five oh five oh one. 372 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 4: But I haven't heard from them yet. Yeah. 373 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: The book is called Streetwise and Study a workbook for 374 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: action peacekeepers or event marshals, and I guess they're calling 375 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: them action peacekeepers. A peacekeeper, sometimes called a marshal or 376 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: action ambassador, helps keep people safe and make sure the 377 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: action goes smoothly. The essential supplies for a prepared peacekeeper 378 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: are a fully charged cell phone, contacts for police, liaison, 379 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: legal observers, and other key action roles. Schedule events, map 380 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: with the march route, first aid supplies your ID. Nothing 381 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 3: in there says that you're supposed to be carrying a 382 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: gun at My understanding is these people were not supposed 383 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: to be armed. 384 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: This person who they're saying was a veteran was armed. 385 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: It's not a guide for people who are going to 386 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 3: be confronting violence, right, Like, it's not a very good 387 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: guide for that. And the de escalation stuff is really bad. 388 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: Like chapter seven is on de escalating with guns. Tips 389 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: for de escalating with guns. Don't panic your composer will 390 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: influence the crowd and likely the gun owner. Keep your 391 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: hands and avoid sudden movements. So so far that's good. 392 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: Speak softly and clearly, avoid shouting or aggressive tones. Try 393 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 3: to keep distance between the person with the weapon and 394 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: the crowd, which should move away slowly. If someone from 395 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: your team face the protesters, and if anyone attempts to 396 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: rescue the situation, which can make things worse ha HA. 397 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: Communicate with other peacekeepers and leaders and coordinate a safe response. 398 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: Be ready to evacuate or take shelter if necessary. Talk 399 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 3: calmly to the shooter and tell them you're not their enemy, 400 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: repeating a phrase such as you don't have to do this, 401 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 3: You don't have to go to jail today. You don't 402 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: have to go to do this. Move deliberately and get 403 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: to solid cover. Walls, cars. Cars are not solid cover. 404 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: Cars are not solid cover. Neither are walls. A lot 405 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: of the time, Yeah, someone's got a rifle. Get the 406 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: group to sit or neil, typically for groups of high discipline. No, 407 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: don't get people to kneel. If you think a. 408 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: Shooter is about to open fire, that's not the right call. 409 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: Like, oh my god. 410 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 3: What worries me most is just both like this is 411 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: there's a lot of bad advice in there. Like it's 412 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: not all bad, but like there's a lot of bad 413 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: stuff in there, and they immediately the security member who 414 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: did the shooting and who killed someone, like, they immediately 415 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: backed them up and basically argued like yeah, like that 416 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: it's the fault of the person who was not doing 417 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: the shooting. 418 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: There's so far complicit in framing somebody else for a killing. 419 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 5: Yes, and not mentioning Arthur philas Alu, right, the man 420 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 5: who was killed, yes, failing to acknowledge Well, they mentioned 421 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 5: that somebody died and that it was strategic by name, right, 422 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 5: like this is someone's dad, someone's potner. I don't think 423 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 5: their initial coverage did now. Yeah, I mean yeah, this 424 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 5: is fucking tragic. It's all round. It fucking sucks. 425 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: It's really tragic. It's awful. It's evan. 426 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that are here. Number One, 427 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: when we're talking about like armed security, a big question 428 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: is like when is it more danger than. 429 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 4: It could help? Right? 430 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: And I think Number one, a situation like this where 431 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: you have thousands and thousands of people in the street 432 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: is not one at this point in which you get 433 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: much out of having armed security. Number One, there's going 434 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: to be police swarming around, and even if you happened 435 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: to respond to a shooting. The odds that you get 436 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 3: shot while doing the right thing are high because there's 437 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: so many cops around. I talk a lot about the 438 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: Normandale shooting in Portland, in which a member of the 439 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: protest stopped a mass shooter and saved a number of lives. 440 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: That was a small demo. There was no one around, really, 441 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: and it was the kind of situation where you need 442 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: armed security because no one is going to come for you. 443 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: You are not going to get any kind of a 444 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: realistic response time if an emergency happens and you need 445 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: to be able to defend people immediately, right. That is 446 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: a very different kind of situation from ten thousand fucking 447 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: people are marching, right, So straight up, I would say, like, 448 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: this is a situation if you're wondering, like, well, how 449 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: do we determine like where, what's a good time and 450 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: a bad time for showing up as an armed demonstrator, 451 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: I would say this is not a great time. And 452 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: I would say that's the primary mistake the person with 453 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: the ar made, right, which is not to say that 454 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: they deserve to be charged or that they caused this, 455 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 3: because they didn't. The person who saw someone not shooting 456 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: an opened fire and hit the wrong person, the person 457 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: who is liable here, yeah, and who was responsible for 458 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: things going badly. I think five oh five oh one 459 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: probably backed this person book because they lacked perfect information 460 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: and because they were really worried about their own legal 461 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: culpability here. But yeah, this is just a disaster. But 462 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 3: if you're saying anyone is responsible for this but the 463 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: person who opened fire, yeah, I think that's just silly, 464 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: especially since again, you're legally allowed to open carry in Utah. Yeah, 465 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: you might not be allowed to conceal carry it protest 466 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: like I did. I'm unaware of Utah law as regards 467 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 3: concealed carry, but you are allowed to open carry. 468 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 469 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 5: Some states you could be permitted and not allowed to 470 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 5: carry a protest too. 471 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: After doing this for like a number of years now, 472 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: a consistent trend I've noticed is that oftentimes the most 473 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: dangerous person at a protest besides the police, are really 474 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: anyone wearing yellow vests. We saw this at the DNC 475 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: protests in Chicago, where protest Marshall's protest security were escalating 476 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: conf and trying to move certain demonstrators in the direction 477 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: of police. Similar things happened at protests in Portland, even 478 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: like pre twenty twenty, where people seen as quote unquote 479 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: agitators would be treated incredibly hostile by protest security or 480 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: protest marshals, oftentimes trying to hand them over to police 481 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: custody if they were too disruptive at a protest or 482 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: at a demonstration. 483 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: All right, well you know what isn't disruptive at a demonstration? 484 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: We're throwing too our sponsors again, get bastards. 485 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: All right, we are back. I have a few other 486 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: notes related to protests before we can move on. I 487 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: guess one aspect of the Atlanta protests that I didn't 488 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: mention before, which I think is kind of notable, is 489 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: proud boys showed up. And this is one of the 490 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: first resurgences of like uniformed proud boys that we've seen 491 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: kind of since j Sex. So I think this is 492 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: a notable trend to be aware of. Also, last week, 493 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: a US district judge, Charles Bramer ruled that Trump's National 494 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: Guard deployment was illegal, but the order to give control 495 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 2: of the National Guard back to Newsom has been paused 496 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: as the Trump administration appeals the ruling while maintaining command 497 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: of the Guard. 498 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 5: So something we haven't covered that much on an executive disorder, 499 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 5: but which has been happening have been the ongoing attempt 500 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: by the Trump administration to sell off public lands across 501 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 5: the United States, spetically across the Western states. 502 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: Right. 503 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 5: In this case, I want to talk about Utah Senator 504 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 5: Mike Lee, who have authored this part of the Budgiet 505 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: Reconciliation Bill, which mandates the sale of between two and 506 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: three million acres of public land managed by the Bureau 507 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 5: of Land Management and the Forest Service. It's happening across 508 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 5: eleven different states. They are Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Noviland, 509 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming. I guess the 510 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 5: West of the Rockies appreciators will notice that Montana is missing. 511 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 5: That is because Montana's senators said they would break ranks 512 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 5: with the party of or any sale of public land 513 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 5: in estate. So they just got exempted, which kind of 514 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 5: shows how very transactional this is, as does the exemption 515 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: for mining claims and mineral leases. Right, So it's a 516 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: public land, which is when you take a mining claim 517 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 5: on public land, you can do all kinds of shit 518 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 5: to that land, right, and it technically remains public land, 519 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 5: but in practice these big mining interests have hugelywhigh and 520 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 5: can obviously, like irreparably damage that public land they're exempt. 521 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: So briefly, there was an exemption for grazing that seems 522 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 5: to be missing in the most recent version that I 523 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 5: have seen. For people not familiar, a large amount of 524 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 5: Bureau of Land Management land is leased by cattle farmers 525 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: for grazing. The Wilderness Society has published a really excellent 526 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: interactive map of land that potentially could be sold. I 527 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 5: will link it in the show notes and encourage you 528 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 5: to check it out look at the land where you live. 529 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 5: The Wordness Society has said that this will also quote 530 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: mandate oily sales in the Arctic, refuge force, construction of 531 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 5: a mining road through a national park, and more than 532 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 5: double the amount of logging in Western national forests. This 533 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 5: is the Trump administration's approach to fire management. 534 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: Right. 535 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: This is not one that is based in evidence. We 536 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 5: have decaded evidence that logging does not lead to better 537 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 5: fire management, but it does lead to more profit for 538 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: logging companies right in theory. The idea here, and I 539 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 5: think this is a pretty cynical claim, is that this 540 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 5: would allow for more affordable housing to be built near 541 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 5: cities that have a housing problem right, which is nearly 542 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 5: all the cities in the United States. In practice, BLM 543 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 5: and US Forest Service land is almost all unsuitable for 544 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 5: affordable housing. It's miles from utilities, It's often not well 545 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 5: served by road networks. I'm looking extensively at the parcels 546 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 5: in San Diego which could be listed for sale. They're 547 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 5: so steep that it would be almost impossible to build 548 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: stuff there. In practice, most of this land will be 549 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 5: sold to large corperations. It may be used for large 550 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 5: and highly expensive homes, but it's very unlikely that you're 551 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 5: going to see like apartment buildings. I read through the 552 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 5: latest version today. States do have a right first refusal 553 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 5: to the land being sold, so that would mean states 554 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 5: could effectively buy it and turn it into like state 555 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 5: public land if they wanted to. The revenue from the 556 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 5: sales will go into the general fund, so it won't 557 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 5: go into conservation. Much of the other money you pay 558 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 5: to a BLM or the Forest Service or like hunting 559 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 5: lights and sales for instance, often go directly to conservation 560 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 5: their ring fence for it. This is not only five 561 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 5: percent will be reserved for deferred maintenance of public land, 562 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 5: which is something that's badly underfunded right now. 563 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is pretty bad. This is one of those. 564 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 5: Things that people are asking people to call their representative 565 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 5: or senator about. And you can check the show notes 566 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 5: for more links on that. Look at the wilderness dot 567 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 5: org link if you're interested in that. Gay talking of 568 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 5: housing crises, you wanted to talk about some migrants who 569 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 5: have been housed in a potentially substandard facility in New York, right, I. 570 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, if you consider prison housing, which I guess 571 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: kind of. 572 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: Is garrison, that's the that's in New America. 573 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 2: Fuco mentioned, So I actually want to talk about an 574 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 2: escape from an ICE facility in Newark, New Jersey. This 575 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: was Delaney Hall, a one thousand bed privately owned facility 576 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: that ICE operates. This has been the site of multiple 577 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: protests outside the building in recent weeks, including that one 578 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: where the mayor was arrested, and there was a protest 579 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: on the night of Thursday, June twelfth because earlier that 580 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: day unrest in the building started after detainees were served 581 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: in sufficient lunch just three slices of bread after not 582 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: receiving food for more than twenty hours, people on the 583 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: upper floor covered up security cameras and started damaging walls. 584 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: They overwhelmed security guards on the floor, and four people 585 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: managed to escape by kicking through an interior wall. The 586 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: three of the men are now back in federal custody, 587 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: but one still remains free, with the FBI posting wanted 588 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: flyers and offering up to twenty five thousand dollars for 589 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: information leading to his arrest. The executive director of the 590 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: New Jersey Alliance for Immigrant Justice, Amy Torres, said that 591 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: quote chronic food shortages, undrinkable water, crumbling mesh walls, and 592 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: inadequate staffing led to the chaos unquote. Those being held 593 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: by ICE at the facility have reported overcrowding and being 594 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: forced to sleep on the floor with drinking water either 595 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: scalding hot or dirty and undrinkable. 596 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the initial attempt by the MAD accessor 597 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 5: facility came after they were unable to access it for 598 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 5: code compliance, and there's just no significant evidence a GEO 599 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: group operates this facility by the way a prison contractor, 600 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: and they've completely failed. It seems to comply with the 601 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 5: basic human dignity requirements as well as building codes. 602 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just wanted to mention that. 603 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, so Garrison. I know, New Jersey in 604 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 5: New York, very very different places, but just across the 605 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 5: way there in New York City, New York City. Controller. 606 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 5: I think you say a controller. You don't pronounce the tea. 607 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 5: I want to say compatroller. I want to say comptroller to. 608 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: The glorified accountant, right, yeah, yeah. 609 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 5: Right, he is a city. He's a big boy accountant. 610 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: And one of the two kind of okay mayoral candidates. 611 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 5: Yeah who a crossingdoors. 612 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: Soron Momdani and Brad Lander. 613 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. Lander is like a progressive Democrat. For what it's worse, 614 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 5: he's also Jewish. He was detained by federal agents while 615 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 5: accompanying a person from their immigration hearing. This is something 616 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 5: Landa has done before. He linked arms with a man 617 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 5: whose case had just been dismissed and who was targeted 618 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 5: by marked agents. Lander repeatedly asked to see a judicial warrant. 619 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 5: What agent tried to pry him away from the man 620 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 5: he was trying to protect. As they detained him, Landers said, 621 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 5: quoting here, you don't have the authority to arrest US citizens. 622 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 5: A few hours later, Lander was released from custody the 623 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 5: man he was with, who Lander pointed out, and like, 624 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 5: you know, credit where it's due, he tried to divert 625 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 5: focus to the person who has not been released and 626 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 5: probably will not be released, and as Lander pointed out, 627 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 5: whose first language was Yoruba, but was only provided with 628 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 5: a French translator, which is not uncommon for people with 629 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 5: languages that are not Romance languages. When Lander was released, DHS, 630 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 5: a Department of Haundum Security claimed and email to Hellgate, 631 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 5: New York, which is a great outlet that my friend 632 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 5: Max stood up a while ago. He was arrested for quote, 633 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 5: assaulting law in force and impeding a federal officer Zelmoormira. 634 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 5: I think I'm pronouncing ana correctly. A state senator and 635 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 5: mayoral candidate called the arrest and I quote fucking ridiculous. 636 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. He certainly did not assault any of 637 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: those unmarked armed agents. 638 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 5: No, quite the opposite. 639 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: Actually he did not even defend himself against the violence 640 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: that the yeah, that they were using. 641 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. So this is the second incident this week of 642 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 5: a democratic politician being detained. Senator Alex Padilla was also 643 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 5: detained outside a Christine non press conference in Los Angeles. 644 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: Right after trying to ask her a question. 645 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 5: Yes, trying to ask a very reasonable question. Clearly, this 646 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 5: aesthetic is something that the regime is going for right now, 647 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 5: right violent assaults of opposition politicians. It doesn't seem like 648 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 5: Landa's going to be charged. I have not seen anything 649 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 5: about charging for Padilla either, but that's not really the point. 650 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: Prior to grabbing him, the agents were heard talking about 651 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: if they wanted to arrest the controller. 652 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's worth noting that Lander also has an NYPD 653 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 5: protection in detail. Who I guess accompanied him once he 654 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 5: was detained. Cool. 655 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: The last thing we're going to mention today is some 656 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: more unfortunate news that came out of Saturday with the 657 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: Trump military parade and the know King's protests. Very early 658 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: that morning, too, Democratic politicians from state of Minnesota and 659 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 2: their spouses were shot in a series of targeted assassination attempts. 660 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark Hortman 661 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: were murdered. The other two targets, State Senator John Hoffman 662 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: and his wife, were able to survive. 663 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 5: It seems like the person who did the shooting. The 664 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 5: person has now been detained name of Varanes Boulta. Disguised 665 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 5: himself as a cop and was wearing a mask, and 666 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 5: that was how he was able to get the Holtmans 667 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 5: to open the door of their house and shortly thereafter 668 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 5: he shot them both. 669 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: I want to do a full episode in the future 670 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 2: on this incident and the way it relates to rising 671 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: political tensions across the country. Unsurprisingly, the guy who did 672 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: the shooting is kind of a weird dude. 673 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 5: Weird little guy, you might say. 674 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: Garrison a weird little guy with a mix of political motivations, 675 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: including anti abortion sentiments, and appeared to choose to do 676 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: the attack Saturday morning to disrupt and spark violence at 677 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: anti Trump protests later that day. I think that's all 678 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: I need to do on this for now. 679 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, we will cover it in more detail, and we're 680 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: still trying to sort of gather our thoughts and our 681 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 5: sources on it. But uh, pretty horrible shit. Yeah, any 682 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 5: good news to end with? 683 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. But I will end with 684 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: saying we reported the news. 685 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 4: We reported the news. 686 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: It could happen. 687 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: Here is a production of cool Zone Media. For more 688 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website coolzonemedia dot com. 689 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: Check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever. 690 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: You listen to podcasts. 691 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: You can now find sources for it could happen here, 692 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: listed directly in episode descriptions. Thanks for listening.