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Speaker 1: Welcome back Happy Hour listeners. I'm back at kou Friend

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Speaker 1: and I'm Michelle Young, and we are ready to be

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Speaker 1: back with you again this week because we have a

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Speaker 1: very exciting guest for the podcast today. Yes, we're so

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Speaker 1: excited today because we're gonna be catching up with the

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Speaker 1: one and only Claire Crawley. I've actually never interviewed her. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've met her once, but I've never actually like sat

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited that she's going to be on today. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited when I found out we were

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Speaker 1: having Claire and I was like, hell, yeah, sign me up.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had her on Happy Hour in years. I

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Speaker 1: mean it was really when she finished her time as

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Speaker 1: Bad Cherette a couple of years ago, so it's been

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Speaker 1: a hot second. And obviously we follow her on social

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Speaker 1: media and we have our little Badchork group check going.

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Speaker 1: But she is newly engaged, so I cannot wait to

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Speaker 1: pick her brain about how that all went down. About

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Speaker 1: her fiance. I want to know everything about him. He

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Speaker 1: seems like a wonderful old man. But before we bring

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Speaker 1: her on, Michelle, welcome back to California. You've been traveling

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Speaker 1: all over the place, but you're settled. I want to

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Speaker 1: see for a little bit. But I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if I can say that. Honestly, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm ever settled for a little bit. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be, but then I just end up taking off.

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Speaker 1: I was, for those listening, was talking Tobecca earlier today

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Speaker 1: just about how I have like chronic spontaneous traveling issues

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Speaker 1: never like stay in one place but too long. But okay,

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Speaker 1: but here's the thing. You were a teacher for so

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Speaker 1: many years, and it's not like you can just pack

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Speaker 1: up and go. So this is a recent thing now

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Speaker 1: that you have the time, and I would assume the

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Speaker 1: means you know, you don't have a classroom full of

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Speaker 1: fifth graders that are hold I'm not even holding you back,

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Speaker 1: but you know, getting around honestly, Like I was talking

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Speaker 1: to my mom about this the other day of just

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Speaker 1: like I have this huge it's to travel. It's something

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Speaker 1: that I've always wanted to do, and I've been able

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Speaker 1: to travel for like sports back in elementary school or

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Speaker 1: elementary school, but back when I was doing like competitive

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Speaker 1: you is I feel like I've always just missed the

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Speaker 1: mark with traveling. And so like in college, you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to take that overseas trip and we had a coaching

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Speaker 1: change and so I didn't. I was like the one

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Speaker 1: person who didn't get to go in that four years.

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Speaker 1: And then I was teaching and then you know, got

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Speaker 1: on to Bachelorette and my traveling experiences were a little

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Speaker 1: bit different, and as a contestant and as a lead,

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Speaker 1: and so like I think right now, I'm just like

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Speaker 1: And it's not always gonna be like this, but but yeah,

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Speaker 1: its pros and cons of traveling quite a bit. What

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Speaker 1: are three places on your bucket list for just this year?

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Speaker 1: For just this year? Um, Switzerland is a huge one

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Speaker 1: that I've been drawn to, partially because of TikTok and

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Speaker 1: the things that I've seen. It looks beautiful. Have you

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Speaker 1: been You've been to Switzerland? Right, No, I've never been,

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Speaker 1: But I'm actually going. I'm doing a cruise with my

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Speaker 1: That sounds absolutely beautiful. Um, and maybe I'll make it

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Speaker 1: her backyard if you ever need a little escape in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: and eighty lakes. So there's your fun act of the day, everybody. Welcome. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of places to swim and fish and

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Speaker 1: as much as we could talk about lakes, thank you

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Speaker 1: for tuning in everyone. We do need to bring Claire

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Speaker 1: So I think with that all being said, it is

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited too. Well, to all of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: Before we actually started recording. We were just telling Claire

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Speaker 1: how great she looks. You are glowing first and four moosts.

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Speaker 1: We have to start off show us that rock because

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Speaker 1: you are reasonly engaged. It is beautiful. It is not know,

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Speaker 1: it is sparkly. Oh she is pretty. Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: that ring. Heck, yes, yeah. Are you having like neck

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Speaker 1: so beautiful. We and it's been a hot minute since

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Speaker 1: and you are absolutely glowing. I know so much has

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Speaker 1: want to catch up with you on everything that's transpired transpired,

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with this engagement. Can you

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Speaker 1: you met your fancy Ryan and how he proposed to you. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: not because of my engagement. It's not because of my relationship.

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Speaker 1: I literally have chills over here, Claire, because you just

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Speaker 1: Like this is Claire Crawley got herself out of everything

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Speaker 1: if it was like with somebody you had only dated

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00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: a little bit, or that you thought you were to

430
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: spend the rest of your life. We've all, I'm sure

431
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: had those moments like you just said, where you don't

432
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: know what to do, you don't want to do anything,

433
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: you don't know where to turn, You just want to

434
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: kind of just sit in yourself and wallow in a way,

435
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: and to have somebody I love that. That's how it

436
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: started too. It's like you said that friendship, like you

437
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: just had somebody could confide in who you didn't have

438
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: to put on a front to act like everything was

439
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: perfect and you could just be so okay. After that

440
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: that first then coffee team meeting, were you still in

441
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 1: the mindset of I had a great time, but like

442
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: I still want to stay friends, or was your heart

443
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: slowly opening to something more. I think my heart instantly

444
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: was like kind of love being around this guy. I

445
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: love being around this guy. And this guy is peace

446
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: to me. This guy's happiness to me. This guy is

447
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: bringing a light back into my life and helping me

448
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: find my light again. And I loved it, and even

449
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: down to like that first coffee kind of like team

450
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: meeting that we grabbed tea or whatever together. He knew

451
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: what I was going through, he knew what my struggles were,

452
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: and he wanted I told him. I said, I my

453
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: bucket is empty, like I have nothing to give right

454
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: now except towards myself and like I'm barely keeping my

455
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: head above water. And he said, that's okay. I want

456
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: to be the one that will help fill up your bucket.

457
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: And he would come to Sacramento three four times a week.

458
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: He would drive an hour and a half just to

459
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: go on a walk with me and just too. And

460
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: it was this feeling that I've never had in a

461
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: relationship recently, where I felt like I didn't have to

462
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: be on for somebody. I didn't have to be Claire

463
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: from the Bachelorette or Claire from TV, or Claire from

464
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: This Strong Woman or Claire that whatever people's impressions of

465
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: me are on social media, Like I didn't have to

466
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: be on for him. I could just be myself and

467
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: that meant sharing the hard things. That meant sharing the

468
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: things that I wasn't so proud about or happy about,

469
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: or that I was going through, you know, the realness

470
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: of it. And so that's kind of what turned the

471
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: corner for me, was like I can really be myself

472
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: around this man and feel that I can let my

473
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: guard down around and be vulnerable and open because he's

474
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: not taking advantage of that. That's so beautiful. And also

475
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: take I want to take time to acknowledge that that

476
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: takes a different level of intelligence for someone to, you know,

477
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: look at someone else who's going really hard time and

478
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: know when to push and when to let things be

479
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: with you. Like he knew that you needed to get

480
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: out of the house, you had to breathe. They didn't

481
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: push or force you to eat anything like this person

482
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: who anxiety whatever goes straight to my stomach, Like it's

483
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: so intense and it becomes this it's awful, it sucks,

484
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's awful. And for him to be like, okay,

485
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: we'll compromise, like let's go get coffee or tea. That

486
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: sounds that sounds like something that's actually achievable or just

487
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: less intimidating. And for him to know that, Yeah, for

488
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: him to know that and for that to be your

489
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: first meetup is incredibly just beautiful. True, it was. It's

490
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: so simple but beautiful. Yeah. It was everything I needed

491
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: because I felt so used and so run dry for

492
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: my previous relationship and this man came into my life

493
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: filling me up, filling my soul up, and wanting or

494
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: needing nothing in return. And even when I hit the

495
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: point of saying, I need to take a step back

496
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: because I need to really work on myself and I

497
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: don't need this falsehood of happiness where you create my happiness.

498
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: I want to be the one to create my happiness

499
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: from within and I need to take a step back

500
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: and do that for myself. And he was like, I

501
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: got you, and he said take your time, do what

502
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: you gotta do. I'll be here. I'll be here, And

503
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: he was there for me as a friend, like there

504
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: was no guilt. There was no guilt of oh, if

505
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: I can't have you, like I'm out, you know, there

506
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: was no It was like, do what you gotta do.

507
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: I see it, I respect it. I'm going to do

508
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: my own thing, but like, I'm here if you need

509
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: me well, and Michelle, you're you know, you just arrived

510
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: about Ryan being intelligent and having this like self awareness.

511
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: I think the same ghost for you Claire as well.

512
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: In that scenario. You're like, you recognize I have an

513
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: empty bucket right now and I need to fill it

514
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: for myself and to be able to get to any

515
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: place in my life in the future if I want

516
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: to be with somebody or not, Like, I need to

517
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: do this on my own, and I think that also

518
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: takes a It's risky and it can be scary, but

519
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: also so much self awareness on your end too, to

520
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: be like, you know, like this is one day where

521
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: I would love to be and I'm sure you would

522
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: love to have that partnership, but I got to get

523
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: there on my own, and it seems like you did it.

524
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys just both balance each other

525
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: out super super well, which is incredible to see in

526
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: a relationship. Okay, one thing that I really want to

527
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: ask you about, because I know you've talked about your

528
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: mom and this is something that you and I have

529
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: DMed a little bit about two in the past. But

530
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: one thing that I really liked that Ryan proposed to

531
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: you not only once, but twice, and one the second

532
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: time encourage me if I'm wrong, But the second time

533
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: was in front of your mom. Correct yea. And what

534
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: was that moment like for you? Ah? It was a

535
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: moment that's never happened before. It was a moment that

536
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: I had never expected and anything with my mom because

537
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: she has she is still on hospice for dimension Alzheimer's.

538
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: That time is so valuable and time is so limited.

539
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: There was a point a year and a half ago

540
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: where we thought that was the end. And so to

541
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: be able to this is gonna make me kind. But

542
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: to share I never thought that moment was possible. And

543
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: I was so upset for so long that my previous

544
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: relationship because I felt like you took that moment and

545
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: that time away from me and my mom. That was

546
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: special that I had been waiting to share with my

547
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: mom and that I thought my dad hasn't been able

548
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: to be around for that obviously in spirit, but not

549
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: physically to be there to say yes, to see to

550
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: witness a proposal, or to witness that type of love.

551
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: And I felt robbed of that before and take an

552
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: advantage of that before and used for that before and

553
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: not knowing how precious that is to me. And so

554
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: this time with Ryan, it's like that moment was so

555
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: beautiful and like he got emotional with me, made me

556
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: so emotional, and he was so just respectful and loving

557
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: and still is so kind to my mom. And so

558
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: this is what makes me emotional, is that you never know,

559
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: like where life is going to lead you. I thought

560
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: it would be, you know, I waited so long as

561
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm forty one years old going on forty two almost,

562
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: and I thought I was so lucky to have that

563
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: moment with Ryan with my mom. But not only that,

564
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: my mom's still here. My mom's still giving her best

565
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: and comfortable and happy right now, and so she's not

566
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: only able to see that moment, but she's going to

567
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: be able to go willing soon be it my way.

568
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: And not only that for other things that are coming up.

569
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh God, Okay, so you're gonna have to ask the

570
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: next question because I am literally just I wow, that

571
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: I never that's something that I haven't necessarily had to

572
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: think about with just But like the pressure of that

573
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: you must have felt, Claire, with time is of the essence,

574
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: and like you're up against time almost like it's your enemy,

575
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: and it's you're really wanting to find your person for you,

576
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: but also for the people in your life to see that,

577
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: like you are going to be taken care of, and

578
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: for them to be around to see these huge moral

579
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: markers in your life and for him to do that.

580
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Did you know Did you know that he was going

581
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: to propose a second time in front of your mom?

582
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Is that something that you had talked spoken about or

583
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: is that something that he took upon himself complict fully

584
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: and kind of surprised you with. Now, we definitely talked

585
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: about it, because he wasn't he wanted how do I

586
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: say this? I wanted my mom to be a part

587
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: of it. It was important to me to be a

588
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: part of it, because I said, at the very bare minimum,

589
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: we still have her here with us, and I want

590
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: her to have a part in it, have a say,

591
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: and she at least be there for that, even if

592
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: she wasn't able to in the future be there because

593
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: we don't know. I want her to be able to

594
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: see that and to have him look my mother in

595
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: the face and say, like, I will love your daughter forever.

596
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: I want to love your daughter forever, like, can I

597
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: have your permission? It was so pivotal. My mom very traditional,

598
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: My whole family is very traditional. So it just meant

599
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: the world to me. It meant the world. And I

600
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: told him, I said, you have to be able to

601
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: look my mother they're in the eye, and make that

602
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: promise to her, and don't make that promise to me

603
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: if you can't make that promise to my mom and

604
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: look her in the eyeball. Did she I'm assuming she did,

605
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: but did she give him her blessing? Totally? He just

606
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: loves it. He always just said she said, well, she said,

607
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: he's so handsome. He's so handsome, even when he's right

608
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: there she's like, yeah, we're all over here crying. Well yeah,

609
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: And I think about it too clear because I can

610
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: relate to you, you know, like I lost my dad

611
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: at a younger age, and he's he guess he's with

612
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: me in spirit, and I'd like to think that he's

613
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: so kind of guiding me along. Um. And there was

614
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: something about like when I met Thomas, like even before

615
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: my mom ever met him, like the way that I

616
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: would talk about him. She's like, I feel like he's

617
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: the one, and I think there's something And I'm not

618
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: a parent, so I don't fully know, um, but I

619
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: think there's something to be said about your parents guide

620
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: you on this life journey and you know they raise

621
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: you and they give you wings to help you fly.

622
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: But I'm sure there's something so special about being your

623
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: mother and seeing you go through all of the ups

624
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: and downs over the past couple decades, especially like through

625
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: the heartbreaks, and I'm sure your mom to be there

626
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: and to see that and to see him just like

627
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: hold your heart is probably so special, such an incredible

628
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: moment to be able to incorporate her in Like God,

629
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: I can't even like I have no words, like that

630
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: is so beautiful, so special, like that is just and

631
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: for him to take it to heart and want to

632
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: have that moment with you both is just amazing, amazing.

633
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: Thank you so much because it was like it really

634
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: is something that's I just beyond special to me. And

635
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: it was It's funny because it was he did it

636
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: after he proposed to me, but he was like, I

637
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: wanted to do it beforehand, but then I would ruin

638
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: that I was surprising you, and he made it happen. Yeah,

639
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: he made it. He made it work. Yeah, it was

640
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: for He's so thorough. I love it, but so okay,

641
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: So you talk a little bit about you know, we

642
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: talk about parent Becca. You mentioned parenthood and Ryan he

643
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: has two children, and how how has that been for

644
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: you with navigating a relationship with somebody who has kids

645
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: in those first moments where you're being introduced to them

646
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: and you're also now you're not also also just getting

647
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: to know him, but you're also getting to know these

648
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: extensions of him and stepping into some sort of a

649
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: role to them as well. How has that been? Can

650
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: you kind of take us along the way of what

651
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: it's been like? Yeah, I think I'd be lying if

652
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I said it was super easy, because it's not being

653
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: a step parent, even being a girlfriend to a guy

654
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: with children, being a fiance to man who has previous

655
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: children who are old enough to know and they're they're

656
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: nine and eleven. And I thought, going into this with

657
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: my heart, I was like, I know, and he knows

658
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: how much I love children. I have thirteen nieces and nephews,

659
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Like I more than anything in this world love children.

660
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: And I thought this is gonna be great, like, no

661
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: big deal, right, But also there's a lot of things

662
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: as a stepparent to navigate not only from I think

663
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: the children's side, because their sweet little hearts are going

664
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: through so much already from a divorce and having parents

665
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: and trying to comprehend all that as a child. It's

666
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: hard enough as an adult to comprehend divorce and breakups

667
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. So their little hearts

668
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: are so special and so intelligent. But it's I worry

669
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: about that for them, and saying the right things and

670
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: doing the right things, and it's something that is like,

671
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm so honored to do for these girls because they

672
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: are truly like the sweetest little things and have shown

673
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: me nothing but love and shown me nothing but like

674
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: open arms and welcoming And like I said, I thought

675
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: it would just be this easy thing you just blend in,

676
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's so many things you have to take

677
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: into account, and there's a lot of things too even

678
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, it's like I

679
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: always try to remind them too, they have an amazing mom.

680
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: I'm their stepmom and I'm somebody who loves them, but

681
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: they have an amazing mom. I'm not trying to be

682
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: their mom. I'm trying to be another person that just

683
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: is in their life to bring love to them. And

684
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: I think when they understood that and when they really

685
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: got that, it was like this shift in Okay, And

686
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: even with the thing, I'm like, I did not break

687
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: up your parents. I was not the reason, you know.

688
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: Having to be able to like go through all the stuff.

689
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: It's challenging, la la. It's longer, but it's a challenging thing,

690
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: but it is a rewarding thing because it's a choice

691
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: I get to make to be there for them, and

692
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: it's a choice they get to be able to accept

693
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: me into their lives. And I'm honored to be in

694
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: l lives. I'm honored to be a person that can

695
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: love these toodle girls because they really are wonderful. Well

696
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: and I'm sure too, like this is just an added

697
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: layer of or an added conversation that you have to

698
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: have going into this engagement. And you know, I'm sure

699
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: most couples, if they want kids one day, they have

700
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: conversations of like, how do we want to raise these kids?

701
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, how do we want to rear them? And

702
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: like what do we want to instill in them? And

703
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: now it's like Ryan has those you know, He's done

704
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: that for the past eleven years with these children, but

705
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: now it's incorporating you. Have you both been able to

706
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: have those conversation and I don't want you to have

707
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: to give details, but have you been able to have

708
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: those conversations of like, once we're married, you know, how

709
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: do we want to help not raise, but grow these children? Oh?

710
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: For sure, we have had, trust me, the hardest, most

711
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: intense conversations that aren't easy. But it's conversations that need

712
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: to be had because I want this to work. He

713
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: wants this to work, and we both want what's best

714
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: not only for ourselves but for the other people and

715
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: for the girls. And so even conversations of you know,

716
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of one off the top of

717
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: my head, but there's been some really really even cautions

718
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: still pop up. I'm trying to think like I'm trying

719
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: to think of one and blanking on him. But we

720
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: have had to have those hard conversations, and the gift

721
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: of it all is that as hard as those are,

722
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: I also have the gift of being able to see

723
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: how he is as a parent already going into this relationship.

724
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: He's the one that when I'm still asleep, he's up

725
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: there making chocolate chip banana cakes, and waking up extra

726
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: early to make sure that these goals have clean clothes

727
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: for school, and making sure that they have their glue

728
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: sticks ordered in Amazon at the door so they have

729
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: them for their presentation the next day. Like he's the

730
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: one doing all a lot of that stuff that I

731
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: see on his behalf, And it's like, that's the kind

732
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: of man I wanted to marry, somebody who's not just passive,

733
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: not somebody who has even old school police of like

734
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: the whoopan should be doing it all. Like he gets

735
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: up and he does it. He will do what needs

736
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: to be done for those girls, and I love it.

737
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: I love him going to say, I'm sure it's a

738
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: little turn on for you too, totally. And he just

739
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: there's been so many moments too where I catch him

740
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: with his girls and I look just he doesn't know

741
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: that I see him, and I'm kind of a creek

742
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: from the side looking, but I'm just like, that's the

743
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: kind of daddy that you know, that's the kind of

744
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: daddy I want for my children and that these girls deserve.

745
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: Like he's a good father and he will always be

746
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: a good father to these girls because of just how

747
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: he holds them and he is like he physically just

748
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: always hugging them and kissing them on the cheek and

749
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: telling them how much he loves them, like he's such

750
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: a good such a good dad. And you don't know that,

751
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: you don't know that when you get into relationship with

752
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: the guy, how they're going to be. And I gotta

753
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: be such a relief though I can only imagine because

754
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just speaking for myself, and maybe you two

755
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: can relate like I've been with Xes in the past

756
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I cannot envision raising children with you

757
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: like there, it just we're not gonna be on the

758
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: same page. It's that gonna work. It's gonna be more

759
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: stressful than I could imagine. And now that, like you know,

760
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: I have Thomas Lely, but now that I see him

761
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: like with our nieces and nephews and how excited he

762
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: is to be a dad, I'm like, oh, this is

763
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: such a relief. I have like a partner, a teammate

764
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: in this totally, totally that's huge. And I can feel

765
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: you on that where I mean I'm still looking at

766
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: you'll get the too quick quick, but I mean, Claire,

767
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: it sounds when you're talking about it, you can tell

768
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: that it hasn't been this perfect process of navigating through

769
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: this experience with dating someone for yourself and also trying

770
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: to figure out how to navigate parenthood or what life

771
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: would look like in all the different layers that Becca

772
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: talks about. If you could give a piece of advice

773
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: to somebody who is in a similar situation or is

774
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: kind of in the earlier stages of navigating through dating

775
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: somebody who has children and having those conversations, what would

776
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: your advice be to them? Okay, so the advice that

777
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: we give here's the truth. I'm still figuring it out.

778
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: I'm still learning. And the best thing that I can

779
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 1: think of is make sure you have a partner that

780
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: you are a team member with and that you are

781
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: a family unit with, not just them and their kids

782
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: and you separately. Make sure you guys work on it

783
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: all together. Because I can tell you the thing that

784
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: has gotten us through this and through the challenging conversations,

785
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: through the challenging moments, it's where Ryan has had my

786
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: back and as Ryan has supported me, and I support

787
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Ryan with all the stuff that were that he has

788
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: faced in being a divorced parent in being you know,

789
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: me being a step parent or soon to be a

790
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: step parent. But it's it's it's challenging. But make sure

791
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: you guys are one percent on each other's teams. I

792
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest thing because there's a lot of

793
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: people and I've seen it. I have people that I

794
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: know that like, I don't know how to explain it.

795
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Ryan puts me first as well as you his

796
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: children first. It's not And I had somebody comment to

797
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: me on social media, They're like, how does it feel

798
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: being second? Like are you okay being second runner up

799
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: to his kids? And it's like we're all first up.

800
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: His kids are first up, I'm first up, he's first

801
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: up to me, his kids are first up to me.

802
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: There's no second best, there's no taken a backseat to

803
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: his kids come first? Which children come first because they

804
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: can't send for themselves, right, But in this relationship, he

805
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: puts me just as much of a priority as those

806
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: girls as well, and it means a lot to me.

807
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: They gets through a lot. There's no hierarchy. It's like

808
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: you are in that family unit. And I actually like

809
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: how you keep already referring to yourself as the stepmom

810
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: because it's like you are you know, like, yes, it's unofficial,

811
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: you haven't tied the knot and signed to the paperwork,

812
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: but like you are the stepmom, like this is your

813
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: family now, and so I think that's a great mindset

814
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: to already be in. Okay, do we cut out the

815
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: whole leg get a connotation of stepmom? As you bring

816
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: that up, Becca, isn't it like as you say, stepmom?

817
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: What's so funny? Is like in my head, it's like

818
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: in society we literally think like negget, why do we

819
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: think negatively of Cinderella? Okay, that's what happens. Fucked up

820
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: a lot? Okay, exactly a lot l and distress. But like,

821
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: really though a stepmom, like it is such a beautiful

822
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: thing and it takes so much to be able to

823
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: navigate that and from like even a teacher perspective, if

824
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: you think about all the like the number of percentage,

825
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: what is the percentage of relationships that feel? Does anyone like?

826
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: Isn't it like? I think it's like, well, it might

827
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: be in the sixties, but somebody mustn't tell us. We

828
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: will find very tell us. But it is so crazy

829
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: because co parenting and all that has to take for

830
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: that to like happen and function in a healthy manner.

831
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of people who do

832
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: not cope well, like there's a lot of just pain

833
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: and the children typically pay and to hear you talk

834
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: about just like the way you embrace being a stepmom

835
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: and bring the positivity and like this like spotlight around it.

836
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: It's like you're you know, you're not trying to take

837
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: somebody as you know, you're not trying to one up anybody.

838
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: You're not trying to slide in and like outrun an

839
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: their mother who is, like you said, it seems a

840
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: very wonderful mother. And so it's just like I love

841
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: that you embrace that role double the love. I mean,

842
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: those girls are lucky. I will say so okay, because

843
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: I want to get into like some of the wedding

844
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: planning stuff, but I guess now I want to know

845
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: that we're also talking about the girls too. I'm assuming so,

846
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: but are they going to have a role in the

847
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: wedding in any sense? They definitely. I will tell you

848
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: this because I don't like I like his privacy with

849
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: the children, and I try to always on these respect

850
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: their mother, respect them and if they're not here to

851
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: sit to be able to share. I want them to

852
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: be able to share what they want to share. And

853
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: with the respect of that, I think I Ryan, I

854
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: one percent gave them the choice to say and just

855
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: like I had, we had the conversation with them of

856
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: I know this is different, I know this is probably hard.

857
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: But you can be involved with this as much or

858
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: as little as you want to be whatever that looks

859
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: like to you, whatever you're comfortable with. Let's rock that. Yeah,

860
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. How okay, so you talk about that, and

861
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: I admire the fact that you already sat down and

862
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: have Like Claire, if one thing well I will say

863
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: about you is you've always been so transparent and you've

864
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: always been just incredibly honest and vulnerable. And the fact

865
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: that you kind of like brought that in and was

866
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: willing to have allowed them that say and have that

867
00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: conversation with them with everything. How have they received if

868
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: you don't mind sharing, how have they received with like

869
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: the fact that you've been on television, like their bonus

870
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: mom has been on the TV screen. They don't know

871
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: and they don't care. Okay, that's amazing. They don't care. Yes,

872
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: right now, having a conversation about it last night, What

873
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: do you think about this? And he was like, do

874
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: you think she knows what that it? Do you think

875
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: she cares what that is? And I was like, you're right, perfect,

876
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: You're not a cartoon. No, they could literally, they could

877
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: care less. They kind of when when they're when we're

878
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: like snuggled or whenever and hanging out and I'm on

879
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: my phone and having to work from my phone and

880
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: post on social media and stuff like that, They're like,

881
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: what is that? And why do you have this? How

882
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: do you have this many followers? Is it because you

883
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: post all the time? Like? How do you have followers?

884
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not. You're like, we'll save that story

885
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: for another day, honey, We'll wait till you're eighteen to

886
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: get into that. Tell you this too. I will totally

887
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: say this because it's not something that's like a secret

888
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: or anything or like ashamed thing or like, oh, like

889
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't want them knowing. It's more of I love

890
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: the fact that they just love me for me and

891
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: like me for me and accept me for me. That's

892
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: the whole purpose of like why I didn't really share

893
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: with them. But I think at the end of the

894
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: day too, though it's I'll be happy to share with

895
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: them because this is not something I'm ashamed of. It's

896
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: not something I'm embarrassed about being on the shows and

897
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: being on a few times and multiple shows and it

898
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: being a failure not working out or just some TV

899
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: reality personality. That's not what this is for me, This

900
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: show going on, this was a part of my life

901
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: and a path that successful or not successful, was successful

902
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: in my eyes because it changed the trajectory of my future.

903
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: And that's I think even people listening like if you're

904
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: going through things, I think it's and you're questioning like dang,

905
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: that sucked or that was a hard thing, or why

906
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: did I go through that? Or do you regret going

907
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: through that? Not going through all that wouldn't get you

908
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: to where you are today. And I'm proud of who

909
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: I am. I'm proud of the woman I am today.

910
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm proud of what I have gone through and the

911
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: strength I have to be able to be like Yep,

912
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: I did that. Absolutely I should be and every step

913
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: gets you to where you have to be. I hate

914
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: always saying this, but like everything does happen for a reason,

915
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: and had you not maybe done a season or did

916
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: this time on the show, Like you might not be

917
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: where you're at, you might not be a self aware,

918
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: you might not know exactly what you want, and so

919
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: it's like it all led you to this day and

920
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: age totally exactly. And those things, all those things that

921
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: are out of our control that may not be good

922
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: or this or that or didn't work out how he

923
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: thought they were going to work out. They fucking worked out. Yeah,

924
00:50:54,200 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: sure and out and then down the road. I don't know,

925
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: I can't keep thinking this, but it's like down the

926
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: road then, like the girls, it's like a it's kind

927
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: of like a plot twist of how I met your

928
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: bonus mother, almost like it's a way for them. They're like,

929
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, I can learn all about that stuff when

930
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: they're old enough. You know, it's so true. And even

931
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: the girls about that, like how do you mean dad?

932
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: Or how what about this? Or about that? And I'm like,

933
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: how well, I'll answer them anything they want to know.

934
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: It's it's nothing. I'm ashamed about nothing. I'm like, you know,

935
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: I probably love it, Okay, Claire, I want to get

936
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: into a little bit of the upcoming season of the Bachelor,

937
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: because obviously that's what we do here in Happy Hour. Kay,

938
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: First of all, will you be watching this season or

939
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: have you watched the most recent seasons or have you

940
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: taken a step off away from it? I've taken a

941
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: step away, Um, I even I've taken a step away.

942
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: For why I get it? I understand there. I mean,

943
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: because you've been in the contestant shoes, you kind of

944
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: know what going into night one and Uncharted season looks like.

945
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: Would you have any advice that you could give to

946
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: the women who are about to start Zach season? The

947
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: best advice? I don't know if I'm want for advice

948
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: on this, but I think it's probably going to sound

949
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: so cliche. But be yourself. Just be yourself. You don't

950
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: need to go above and beyond for anything extravagant to

951
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: be noticed. And it's okay if you aren't a front

952
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: runner or if you aren't noticed or you get some

953
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: home night one, be authentically who you are because that

954
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: is what people fall in love with, That is what

955
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: people connect with, and that is what people appreciate. Is

956
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: the realness. And I can only speak of like coming

957
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: from a perspective of having a genuine interest to possibly

958
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: find a good partner and not seeking out fame as

959
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: my goal. I guess, have your goals and intentions clear,

960
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: get clear, and rock with it. If that's who you are,

961
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: then rock with it. If that's not who you are,

962
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: like you don't need to go do anything crazy. If

963
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: you need to do that to impress a man, he's

964
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: not your man. He's not your man. You know he's

965
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: not your man, and be okay with that, And that

966
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: is nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. The leads

967
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: and contestants could take all of this advice to heart. Yeah,

968
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: but I think the consensus is to just be who

969
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: you are because if you're not, that's it's going to

970
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: be found out very soon. So I love that you

971
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: said that. Well, that is a great segue to our

972
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: resource time and so Claire, this is kind of a

973
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: newer thing we've added into Happy Hour. Basically, we love

974
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: to keep all of our listeners informed and share important resources.

975
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: So this week my resource isn't it's kind of like

976
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: all over the place. It's not just one resource. But

977
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: I have a couple of articles that I will share

978
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: in link once this comes out. But it started because

979
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: last week we had Jesse Palmer on obviously he used

980
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: to be in the NFL still works in sports broadcasting,

981
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: and he had mentioned last week that there's such a

982
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: huge discrepancy between the coaching staff throughout the NFL, between

983
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: black and white coaches, and so I took a deeper

984
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: dive into this, but not only with the coaching, but

985
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: also within the players. And I think also, I'm not

986
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: a sports person by anything, So let me preface this

987
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: entire conversation that I don't really know sports. I am

988
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: not an athlete, but I want to still continue to

989
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: learn more and educate myself in all aspects that I'm

990
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: not familiar with. And so for anyone who doesn't know

991
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: football or watch sports, there's a player, DeMar Hamlin who

992
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: played for the Bills who got hurt I think two

993
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago now. So this is kind of like what

994
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: spewed me going down a rabbit hole. But I took

995
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: a look into et, which is basically, oh my god,

996
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: I cannot talk. I'm sorry. It's a degenerative brain disease

997
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: that's been linked to repeat It blows in the head,

998
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: and it's very common within football, and the NFL has

999
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: poured a lot of money into concussion and helmet research.

1000
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: But I went down this dive of looking into the

1001
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: players as a whole, and I didn't even realize this,

1002
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: but apparently there's a stat and I think it's about

1003
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: seventy percent of players within the NFL are black, and

1004
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: the league up until recently hasn't done a hard push

1005
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: for black players to get concussion settlements. They mainly would

1006
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: focus on the white players. And again I'm going to

1007
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: link a bunch of the articles that I read. They're

1008
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: kind of all over the place, but recently the NFL

1009
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: actually committed two hundred and fifty million dollars I think

1010
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: it was over a ten year period to combat semic

1011
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 1: racism racism. It will also work with players to identify

1012
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: and work with different programs that address not only things

1013
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: within the NFL and like the game itself, but into

1014
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: criminal justice reform, police reform, economic and educational advancement for

1015
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: African Americans. But they will continue to leverage the NFL

1016
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: network with that money and the media properties to promote

1017
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: the education of social justice issues for the fans as well.

1018
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: And so it was just a really interesting kind of

1019
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: a couple hours that I spent looking into this, because again,

1020
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: like I don't know football I don't know anything about sports,

1021
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: but to still play into you know, we see racism

1022
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: still throughout everywhere, whether it's in your face, very prevalent

1023
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: or not. And so again I will share those articles

1024
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: that I read up on, but just something for me

1025
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: that was very educational is something that I never usually

1026
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: look into. So that's kind of my resource as a

1027
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: whole this week. And so Michelle you if you want

1028
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: to share yours now, yes, no, I love that, Thank you.

1029
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: I have a podcast that I've kind of started listening to,

1030
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna tune into like a specific episode

1031
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: or anything, just that in general. But the podcast is

1032
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: called Momentum, and basically it's kind of talking about like

1033
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: race forward to the different things that need to happen

1034
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: to kind of move forward. But it actually does it

1035
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: in a way where it's tying it to pop culture

1036
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: and really like focuses and fine tunes like all these

1037
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: different activists, leaders in the community, celebrities, things like that,

1038
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: and works to tell their story and kind of like

1039
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: bridge that branch. So this is a good podcast, especially

1040
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: for people who are kind of just beginning their journey

1041
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: with becoming like an anti racist and not knowing where

1042
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: to start a lot of my resources that I've shared

1043
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: have kind of been around this, because that's the biggest

1044
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: thing that I've noticed is people are like, well, I

1045
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: don't know where to start, so then you don't start,

1046
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, I'm gonna give you a place

1047
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: to start. So this one right here, it's called momentum Um.

1048
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: There will be a lot of different, like familiar names.

1049
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: I think that listeners will start to learn about um

1050
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: and just you leave with you leave the podcast, I

1051
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: feel like you leave the episodes feeling like you actually

1052
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: have like tools to put in action. And that's one

1053
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: thing that I really liked about this one is that

1054
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: you're listening and you're learning, but then it doesn't necessarily

1055
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: give you homework, but you have clarity of like, Okay,

1056
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: I know how to I actually apply this and go

1057
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: in this direction. So that's what I love. Application application

1058
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: is huge. You can learn a ton, but it doesn't

1059
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: do anything if you don't apply it right. So really

1060
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: kind of pushes the application. Cool momentum. I'm excited to

1061
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: check that one out. I want to check that too.

1062
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds awesome. Be excited to check that out.

1063
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm starting for a good podcast. Yeah, oh yeah, say

1064
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: Birl all right, and miss Claire, you are up. If

1065
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: you have a resource, I would say the resource or

1066
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: the person I would suggest people turn towards listen to

1067
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: would be Yasmin Cheyenne. She's on Instagram, she has a podcast,

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00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: she is an author. She speaks on all things that

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Speaker 1: we're covering right now, and it's just even just as

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Speaker 1: a woman, she is very encouraging and empowering. Yes men, Cheyenne, awesome,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I will check her out, get her podcast

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00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: to listen. Okay, well, Claire, we have one more thing

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Speaker 1: for you before we let you go, and that is

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00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: our rose and the thorn, and so basically overall in

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: your life, like your rose, which is your high point,

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00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: your favorite part right now, and then maybe a messy

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00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: or awkward part that's going on in your life, I

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Speaker 1: would okay, so I would say my rose. I will

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Speaker 1: start with my rose. The rose is actually just where

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Speaker 1: I'm at in life right now and being at peace.

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Speaker 1: That is my rose right now, having peace in my heart,

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Speaker 1: peace and where I'm at piece where I'm headed and

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01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: to finally be a place or have answers to it all,

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01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: and that is my rose right now, and then I

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01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: would say my thorn is probably Oh can I tell

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01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: you my thorn? This is a for real one for

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01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: me right now? He's an old depression. Seasonal depression is

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Speaker 1: for everyone in the back. I am telling you, I

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01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: am a very happy sunshine soul on the ring. But

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01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the second I see a cloud in

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Speaker 1: the sky for more than an hour and it lingers

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01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: and lingers and rain and this and not like I

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01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: can appreciate it all, but man, it has done me

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01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: dirty this year and I have been struggling on the

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: daily with it. It takes me a little bit longer

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Speaker 1: to get out of bed, it takes me longer to

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Speaker 1: want to exercise. Like, seasonal depression is a for real thing.

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Speaker 1: And there's I'm singing, go a lot more in depth

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Speaker 1: about it. For me, that's the thorn right now and

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Speaker 1: just riding the wave and knowing that this two shell

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Speaker 1: cast and that the sun will come out. Amen. Well, Claire,

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Speaker 1: it has been so good just catching up with you again,

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Speaker 1: seeing you again. I always love having you, so please

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Speaker 1: anytime you want to come back or bring Ryan on,

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Speaker 1: we would love to have you both. And I really

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Speaker 1: do want to say on behalf of both me and Michelle.

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Speaker 1: Like to see you in such a good place and

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Speaker 1: just thriving just with yourself, in your relationship and so

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01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: many aspects of your life is really really special. I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy for you. I truly am. Thank you guys

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: so much, and honestly to you Becca with your wedding

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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: planning and all that stuff, and you Michelle thriving has

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Speaker 1: an independent, strong woman. Cheers to you too, like you, guys,

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01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: because it's it's hard enough to be baseline, so anything

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01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: about that, you guys are both killing it. So thank you.

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01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,959
Speaker 1: And guys, yes, we need to get together soon. Double

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Speaker 1: dates her in order, triple dates maybe one day with Michelle,

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01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: but we'll just like you know what I got it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a housewarming party once her house is

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Speaker 1: done that I want you all to that. So yes, okay, Claire,

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Speaker 1: we love you. We hope to see you very soon.

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01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: Love you, guys. I love Claire. I absolutely love her.

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Speaker 1: I don't and energy, just her energy. She always brings it.

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01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: She's so sweet and she I The only other time

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01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: I've spoken to her was when we were doing we

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01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: were in the audience for one of the specials I

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01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: just remember her being so just bubbly and just enjoy

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. So she is someone who she

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01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: really wants the best for people like she especially for women.

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Speaker 1: She's such a hype woman, like truly wants everyone to succeed.

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Speaker 1: Um and so like seeing her at this place in

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01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: life just so. And I hate to say the word

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01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: content because I feel like there's such a bad connotation

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01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: around it. I think content is a great word. Like

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: she's just happy with herself and that's really incredible. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like she she's gone through it. She's been in this

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: franchise for a few years, she's gone through a few seasons,

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01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: especially when social media was like super prevalent, and and

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01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: she's she's had like rough patches we all have. But

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Speaker 1: to see her on this other side and like really

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01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: know her self worth, I think is incredible for everyone

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Speaker 1: to witness. Um. So, Claire, we love you. She's just so.

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Speaker 1: She probably is one of the most genuine like people

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Speaker 1: that we've honestly really had on this podcast, because I mean,

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01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm not an emotional person, but when you connect with

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01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: somebody who is so genuine like that, like Claire had

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01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: both of us crying today. Oh, my god. I know

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: at one point I was like, Michelle, you got to

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01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: take this kit cry and I'll usually cry. Yeah. She's incredible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love having her on. So thank you Claire, and

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01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: also to all of our Happy Hour listeners. Thank you

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01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: for listening to us each and every week, and everybody listening,

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01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: please don't forget that casting is now open for men

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01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,960
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01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: not sure, but if you are single or know someone

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01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,000
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01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: and that website is boucher Nation dot com slash apply.

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01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,360
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