1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental Wealth podcast 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: build you from the inside out. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Now here's Jay Glacier. Listen, my guest here. Been friends 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: with him for a long time. 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: But I don't have too many guests or one of one, 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: and I say one of one. He is the most 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 3: successful and most decorated Olympian in the. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: History of the Olympics. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: I mean twenty eight medals, still holds the all time 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: record for most gold medals. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: But he is my brother in the gray and the blue. 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: And you know what I thought, and for people out 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 3: here the first time here, what I thought when I 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: was going through my battles with mental health, depression, anxiety, 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: when I got to the top of the all rainbows 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 3: and unicorns, and that just wasn't the case. So I said, 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: you know what, I want to turn to my brother here, 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: the one and only Michael Phelps, who again, the only 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: similarities between us is that we battle the same thing, 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: but we use it to overcome, you know, what goes 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: on between our ears, but also to do greater things. So, man, 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 3: I'm so honored to have the one and only Michael 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: Phelps here. 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: How are you? Brother? Cheers? 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Cheers, good yeah, just uh, another day, right, you know, 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: as you were saying, it's it's another day of us 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: fighting or going through the battles that we go through. 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: And and yeah, you said it perfect, right. There are 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: days that, yeah, we feel like we're on top of 30 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: the world, and there are days we feel the worst 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: we've ever felt. So how do we battle? How do 32 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 1: we maneuver through those things? And and for me lately, 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: as you know, I've been struggling with the loss of 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: my father and and yeah, it's been ups and downs, 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: but you know, I've the one thing I've tried to 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: do is stay into my routine. You know, for me, 37 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: work out is something that makes me me. It's a 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: part of my self care. You know. I just got 39 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: out of an old tub too, so I do that too. Yeah, 40 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: you know. So there there are certain things that I 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: have to continue to do to make this as best 42 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: as it as it can be. 43 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: So let me let me ask you that. And there's 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: so many ways I can go. And first of all, 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: you don't just talk about your dad. And it's cool 46 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: the bond we have now that we're so open about 47 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: this because when your dad passed, you reached out to 48 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: me and I'm always trying to tell people, reach out 49 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: to your teammates, reach out to people that get you 50 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: or don't get you. Everybody wants to help you. So 51 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: I was, Man, I was so honored that you felt 52 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: safe enough to come and reach out to me that day. 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: That was that was amazing, brother. 54 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: And I'm thankful and you know, some of the words 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: that that you shared with me that day, I still 56 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: go back to a lot and and yeah, I've actually 57 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: screenshot that message just you know, just show I never 58 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: forget because you know, there there are a few moments 59 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: that yeah, it just you know, it helps you just 60 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: process things. And and you know, I think that was 61 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: the coolest thing in life, Like, yeah, there was you know, 62 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: we'd gone back and forth and played phone tag here 63 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: and there, and I was like, shit, I don't know 64 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: who talk to. I don't know who to reach out to. 65 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: And and I just snapped, I was like, Jay, I'm 66 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: a text Jay, And yes, I'm thankful you were there 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: and again the advice and the wisdom you gave me 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: and thankful for Man. 69 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: I got goosebumps, man just saying that it's cool because 70 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: it's we need a team and you need to be 71 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: of service, you know, so to be there for your 72 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: brother or anybody reaches out. And we're going through this. 73 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: So I want to ask you this, and it starts 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: being of service, just being there for anybody. But I 75 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: want to ask you, this is yours an everyday battle. 76 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 3: Like for me, it's hard for me to get out 77 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: of bed every single day of my life. 78 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: And this isn't a new thing. Yeah, this has been 79 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: around for a while. Is it that way for you? 80 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: There are months or weeks where yeah, it's like that, 81 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: all right. I guess I call it seasonal depression. There's 82 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: a there's a like a six week stretch from basically 83 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: like second third week in October through the middle of November. 84 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: So I'm in it. I've had some pretty large things 85 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: happened to me in my life, the traumas that you 86 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: went through, broken bones, kind of a bunch of different things. 87 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, so I just know this is a moment 88 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: where I need to make sure I'm aware and keeping 89 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: in touch with everything that's going on. You know, if 90 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: my body's telling me a certain thing, listen to it, 91 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: don't stuff it down. 92 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: When did you realize you were listen? I like to 93 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: say different because I'll say difference. Good, Like, motherfucker, I'm different. 94 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, when did you realize you were different? 95 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean not like I'm thinking like career wise, Like 96 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm going back to eleven when my coach said that 97 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: you could make the Olympic team in four years, and 98 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if that's just him 99 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: talking shit or you know, if him actually believe in it. 100 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: Right. 101 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: So, but as a kid at that point, I was like, yeah, cool, 102 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm all in, let's go. 103 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: And sure maybe the Olympics are fifteen no prower. 104 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: Right, and then sure enough four years later, bang it happens. 105 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. So it's like I 106 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: was like, all right, maybe this guy is not crazy, right, 107 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: or maybe yeah I am different. But also at the 108 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: same time, like I felt that I was normal, you know, 109 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: because I was doing something that I loved. 110 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: Bro, You're not fucking normal, you know that, right? 111 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: Oh? I know that. 112 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 2: You know what I was thinking. 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: Make sure that I was thinking about it today a 114 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: little bit, like like I was thinking like trying to 115 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: win a gold medals, Like I was trying to do 116 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: something that no one had ever done before, right, there 117 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: was no blueprint, right, Like if I want to try 118 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: to change the time on my phone or like the 119 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: text on my phone, if I don't know how to 120 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: do it, I can look that up. 121 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: Right. 122 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: There's no there's no book that says here, this is 123 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: how you win a gold medals. Right. I had to 124 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: like basically figure it out trial and error, Okay, And 125 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: I think that was that's make me that, like that 126 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: makes me who I am. The process of things makes 127 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: me makes me who I am. 128 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: All right, So, now when did you realize you were 129 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 3: different mental health wise? Like when did you first realize 130 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: you suffered from the great. 131 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: That I accepted from it? 132 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 133 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably accepted from it in like twenty fourteen. 134 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: But why did you When did you know it? Like 135 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: did you that was knowing it? 136 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? That was a few times, a few instances through 137 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: my mental health journey, right, Like that was a few 138 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: pretty big public depression spells that I'd gone through, and 139 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, maybe I need to try 140 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: to figure this thing out. Maybe I need to try 141 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: to not tame it, but learn it, right, figure out 142 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: why I am how I am, right, because it's like 143 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: it's not going to change, you know, like like you 144 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: said it, right, like you wake up every day and 145 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: it's a struggle, you know, like shit, like for me, 146 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: like my depression, I can't snap my fingers and have 147 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: it just go away. I can't just snap my fingers 148 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: and have my anxiety go away, right, So it's like, 149 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: how do I maintain it? 150 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: You know? 151 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: How do I just be me and be okay with 152 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: being who I am? 153 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: You But you came out early, yeah, earlier than most 154 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: to talk about it, that's pretty fucking courageous. 155 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: I just didn't care, honestly, like to this, No, I 156 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: was just like kind of just sick and tired of 157 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: feeling how I was. Yeah, I was still able to 158 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: go and swim and train, but I think I used 159 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: that anger and that frustration in the pool, you know, 160 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: Like I kind of think I helped, like that helped 161 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: me become who I was, but maybe not in a 162 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: healthy way. But then like in the outside world, I 163 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: didn't know how to deal with it. So I think 164 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: in fourteen, like that's where I was, just after my 165 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: second DUI, I was like, Okay, I got to figure 166 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: something out, like what's going on? Why am I acting out? 167 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: You know? Why am I screaming for help? And in reality, 168 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: that's what it was, right. I didn't know how to 169 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: ask for help. So at that point I was just like, yeah, 170 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: like it is what it is, this is who I am, 171 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: and here you go. But like thinking back to that interview, 172 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: and it's still crazy because it was Tim Layden who 173 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: did the piece, and I don't know the question that 174 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: he asked me that made me just blah and open up. 175 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: We were sitting there doing like the cover story for 176 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: the Olympics going into you know, the twenty sixteen games, 177 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: and I just opened up. And ever since that point forward, 178 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, here you go. You know. Yeah, 179 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: like today I feel like a piece of shit. Today. 180 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: I want to be, you know, six feet underground. 181 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: Today. 182 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything today. I don't want 183 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: anybody to talk to me. Right, I'm just in one 184 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: of those moods and know like sometimes a hug won't help, 185 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's me just taking time by myself, 186 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: taking that peace and quiet. Right. So it just depends, 187 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, Like it's that cycle. Like I always I 188 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: used to term riding the roller coaster, Like if I 189 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: send the roller coaster eloji, I'm just all over the point, Okay, 190 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure you out too. 191 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: When they come in, but you just said it too, 192 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: and people don't understand. And co man, I get this 193 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: all time. 194 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: How could you want to be six feet under I mean, 195 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: look at you, You're a TV Hall of Fame, You're 196 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: you've done this and ballers and fighting in football and 197 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: NFL on Fox. 198 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but you know, like my life is great, 199 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: but between my ears sucks. We're human, right, and people 200 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: don't understand. 201 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: But people are gonna look at you, go, Michael Phelps, 202 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: how could you want to feel six feet underground? 203 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: So what? Let do you know what led to your pain? 204 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm learning more about it. I think for me, 205 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of compartmentalization from you know, decades, 206 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: a lot of it. And to be honest, was you know, 207 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: not having a dad. You know, like my parents divorced 208 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: very young, and it's not not having a dad. My 209 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: dad's dad also passed when he was very young, so 210 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: he didn't have a dad, right, so he didn't really 211 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: understand how to fully be there and support a child 212 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: and be there when he needs to write. And look, 213 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: I can't blame him, but you know, like for me, 214 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: like I use that as motivation now every day for 215 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: my kids. Right, So just trying to change that cycle, 216 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: you know. And I think part of it is is 217 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: obviously it's learning, it's going through the process. And for me, 218 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: I think in twenty fourteen, I was able to have 219 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: a really good conversation where I got a lot of 220 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: stuff off my chest and we were able to talk 221 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot and just uncover a lot of the stuff 222 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: that we probably were both holding on to for decades. 223 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: So I think that was really cool and really special. 224 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: But I think it's like now, it's probably it's just 225 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: learning how I was raised and understanding it and processing it. 226 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: And but it's also not pointing blame too, you know, 227 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: like we were raised how we were raised, and it 228 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: is what it is. You know, our parents did the 229 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: best that they could. You know, if we want change, 230 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: then we have to change. And I'd like to see 231 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: change in a mental health front. And so for me, 232 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: I look at it in a different way than my 233 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: parents ever did, and they probably ever could process. 234 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 3: It's funny, I had dinner my my folks. I don't 235 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: see them a lot. My mother tells me earlier this year, Oh, 236 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: you know, I've suffered from anxiety my whole life, and 237 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: so did your grandma. I'm like, how about a heads 238 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: up here, like the first time here it's fifty two. 239 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,119 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot now. 240 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: I mean God, because for me, it's it's always I 241 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: don't know any way to not feel this way, like 242 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: my entire life as a little kid, my earliest childhood memory, 243 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: I was brought upstairs kicking and screaming and crying and 244 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: usually punished, and man, I just felt like, like you said, 245 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: like the universe, the universe hates me, like the world's 246 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 3: going to come crashing down around me. And that pain 247 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: for people who don't suffer from it, it fucking sucks. 248 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: It's a it's for me, it's a virtual physical reaction. 249 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: When you get your attacks, do you feel it physically? 250 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: Also? 251 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: At times I think it's just where my head is, like. 252 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: Where mine's kind of specific. 253 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: I get mine on the left side of my gut 254 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: behind my roop k is like having a heart attack 255 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 3: and my joints. 256 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: No, there are times I think like it's more of 257 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: just like I want to crawl in a ball. I 258 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: just want to just like I don't know if it's 259 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: like physical pain, Like I think there were times where 260 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: like I like, there was once where I was in 261 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: such a dark phase and like I I haven't talked 262 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: about this much, but I actually took like a golf 263 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: cleat and hit myself in the head. Like I was 264 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: so pissed off. And this is like this is probably 265 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: like six seven years ago. And as soon as I 266 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: did that, I was like, Okay, I need to figure 267 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: something out, right, Like my life has gotten to this point. 268 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like a cleat cleat, like it wasn't 269 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: like metal cleats, but like you know, it didn't feel good. 270 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: But also yeah, but like looking back at it now, 271 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: like I can laugh, I can laugh about it because 272 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: like you know, like I think. 273 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 3: It's there, but I think like and and the biggest 274 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 3: thing and and you know, going back to like my parents. 275 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't here you go the horses, the horse 276 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: we were a great dame, you like, going back to 277 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: my parents. Like it's the acceptance, right, Like I love 278 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: my parents' death, I always will, but it's the acceptance 279 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: of these things, these moments, these pains, these traumas, right, 280 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Like you know, like if I like I don't want 281 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: to sit and stuff stuff stuff because I'm not going 282 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: to be able to grow and learn from those experiences 283 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: and then try to teach my kids how to deal 284 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: with those things. Right, So I think that that is 285 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: the hardest part for me. And and I think, like 286 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, thinking back like that golf cleat, Like I 287 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: can think back to certain times like that, and I 288 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: can always know kind of the pain that I was 289 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: going through, but I can also look at the transformation, right, 290 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: you know. I think for me, like I can go 291 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: back to what I was feeling when I was at 292 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: the meadows where or yeah, almost every day I didn't 293 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: want to be alive and I hated myself and I 294 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: couldn't look at myself in the mirror because I saw 295 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: a swimmer and that was it. You know. Now I 296 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: got to the point or I'm at the point now 297 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: where yeah, I can see this kid with a man 298 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: bun and you know, like whatever, like I can see this, 299 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: I can see me for who I am. I can 300 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: see myself for a human being. And I think that 301 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: is something that you know, because of the growth, because 302 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: of the acceptance, because of the things that I've gone through, 303 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: Like that's why I am how I am, And like 304 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: I love it this way, right, Like you know, like 305 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: I think back to, you know, points where I was 306 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: afraid to even open up and talk about it, right, 307 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think that was the craziest thing because 308 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: now to the point I'm like whoa, Like, yeah, I'm 309 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: having a bad day. I'm like, honey, yep, one of 310 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: those days, like just giving me your heads up, like 311 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: could be a little cuckoo, could be off. 312 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: You know, you just revealed that. 313 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: I've never revealed this, but when I have those self 314 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: loathing moments, I punched myself in the head the face, 315 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: I've done that and it's like, man, you're just so 316 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: self loathing and that's so I appreciate you sharing that 317 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: with me. And then figure out I got to share 318 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: that with you, and I still do it. And I'm 319 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: like because I also go, you know what, I know 320 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: I can do a lot of damage with these hands, 321 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 3: for sure, Others I'd rather do it to me than 322 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: somebody else. And they also look like I deserve it 323 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: half time, and we don't deserve it. We fucking don't 324 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: deserve it. Sucks that we go that down that path. 325 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'll ask like in those times, like what 326 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: have you found as outlets that help you? Right? Like 327 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: besides have you tried anything else? You know, like for me, 328 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: like I always go to working out, you know, like yep, 329 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: have to get in there, like you know, like you've 330 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: hit me muthiled times and like yeah, Jim, like I'll 331 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: hit you right after I'm done. But like like what 332 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: are like what are other things? You know? Like me, 333 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: is it meditation? Is it? Right? 334 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: And you know I started? 335 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: So I went to Thailand this off season for thirty 336 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: five days. I told you about that, right and a 337 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: they made me really and I sent you some of 338 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: these notes. 339 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: They made me really heal that little kid in me. Yeah, yes, right, 340 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: that that little you know holding little Jason's hands. Right. 341 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: But so now every day before I ever look at 342 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: my phone and now get up, I do breath work 343 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: for ten minutes, right, I meditate for five of things 344 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: that I'm grateful for. Then I write down ten things 345 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for from the previous day that. 346 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: Made me happy. And it's hard sometimes for a lot 347 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: of them. But you know what, I'll make it. 348 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: It could be something materialistic, it could be just something 349 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: somebody said. 350 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: It could be a memory I had, whatever it is. 351 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: So I do all that and then I'll get a 352 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: ten minute work out in before I ever look at 353 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: my phone, and that usually gets me. 354 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: It'll calm me down. It's a better way for me 355 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: to start today than to start today thinking that the 356 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: universe is ending and the universe hates me and my 357 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: sky is falling. 358 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: So do you look back at those things? 359 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: Every I write down all the time. So originally it 360 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: was one hundred. 361 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: They told me to do one hundred a gratit write 362 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: a gratitude list of one hundred things I'm grateful for for. 363 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: My whole life. And brother, you think it could be 364 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: so easy for somebody like me or somebody like you, 365 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: Holy fuck, was that hard? 366 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: You know, because you don't feel like you deserve any 367 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: of it, so you don't want to write it down 368 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: because you're almost like either you're jinxing yourself or you 369 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: feel shittier about yourself. But oh now you're just bragging, 370 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: like fuck, it's terrible. But then once I did, it 371 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: was like God in the universe. Oh, my son says 372 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: he loves me. And my son said this to me 373 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: one time when my dog gives me kisses. And when 374 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: I first adopted my dog, I got the coolest little 375 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: rescue pit and like her first day, and you know, 376 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: buying houses and being on Fox NFL Sunday and my 377 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: whole Fox INFL Sunday crew and walking fighters down to 378 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: a cage for championship fights, and fuck. 379 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: There's a million. It could be a pair of shoes, 380 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: whatever it was if I got a hundred. So I 381 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: was reading that. 382 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: Whole hundred list every single morning, and now I've expanded 383 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: it where every day I write an extra ten and 384 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: then I usually still go back to that that hundred 385 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: when I'm down, When when it's when the roommates in 386 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: my head are not playing nicely together, I'll go back 387 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: to that original hundred and read that. 388 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like the one thing for me. Like I 389 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: like whenever I have like I call it the feedback 390 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: loop from hell. I mean, like up here just keeps 391 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: going and going and spin and spinning and spinning, and 392 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: like I get to that point where like I feel 393 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna blow. It's like how do I get 394 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: myself out of that moment? Right? So I always have 395 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: like a hunt like not a hundred, but it's like 396 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: I have like ten different journals or like little notepad 397 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: sitting here, and some of them are the bad days 398 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: some of them are good days. Some of them do 399 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: lists like all this stuff. I am in that moment 400 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: where I'm spinning. I try to go back and I 401 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: look or I just get it all out right, because 402 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: like during those good days, like you have so many 403 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: good thoughts, you feel like you're on top of the world, 404 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: nothing can get in your way. But then it's like 405 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: like for me, I can I can turn like that, okay, 406 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: and if I turn, this goes on. So then it's like, okay, 407 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: how do I get back to that living in the neutral, 408 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: living in the moment? And it's like I go back 409 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: to all the notes that I have and just the memories, 410 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: right because and I feel like it's the same thing 411 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: you're doing by that, but like by what you just said, right, 412 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: It's like those thoughts and memories are there. Probably for me, 413 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: it's like little things that trigger something, and it's like, 414 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: how do I control that? And the only way I 415 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: can control it is either getting it out or like 416 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: for me, is looking at something from the past because 417 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: I want to calm myself down, right, So I asked 418 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: just because like those moments where you know, like where 419 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: we are hitting ourselves, like how can we stop that? 420 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: You know, like you know, like my wife says to me, 421 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: it's just like all the times, like you can't do that. 422 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I can't do it right, like shit, 423 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: like I know I do that, Like I want to 424 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: be able to stop that. But you know, like for me, 425 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: it's how do I get to that point where I 426 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: do stop it and I can control it and I 427 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: can help myself. 428 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: Isn't it cool that we could talk about these things 429 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: that are so openly Now that's wrong. 430 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm proud of you talking about it. I'm learning to 431 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: be proud of me talking about it. And again I'm 432 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: still a work in progress knowing that we could change 433 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: this world. You know. 434 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: I had this thing the other day, must have been 435 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: like twenty five hundred people or something, and the guy 436 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: was moderating with He's like, hold your phone up in 437 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: the air if you know somebody or you're going through 438 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: some kind of mental health struggle. Seventy five percent of 439 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: the room had the phones up, and they said, now 440 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: keep your phone in the air. If you've gone through 441 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: suicidal ideation, seventy seventy five percent of people had their 442 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: hand up in the air. I was floored because I 443 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: think well, I think for a number of reasons. I 444 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: think number one because I was so happy that people 445 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: were honest and open. Yeah, right, because of what we 446 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: just talked about, right, Like yeah, it's hard as hell 447 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: to open up and talk about it, but once you 448 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: do open up, like that awareness is so powerful. So 449 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: like for me, I was just I was happy inside 450 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: because at the chance, like we have an opportunity to 451 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: potentially save a life. 452 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: Right, yes, you don't have to suffer in silence. 453 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: And number two, I was like, oh my god, the 454 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: world has changed, right, like, you know, like people are okay, 455 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: not being okay, you know, like five years ago, like 456 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: we never would have thought or nobody would have lifted 457 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: that mat up underneath her up up from the problems 458 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: that we're hiding underneath of them and talking about them. 459 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: So it's like all of these things. I feel like 460 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: it's just so powerful and yeah, we're making great progress, 461 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: but there's so much more. 462 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's too reactive. 463 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: We're not proactive enough, Like people need to do what 464 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: you and I are doing for our mental health before 465 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: the sky's fall, Like even if they don't think they 466 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: have an issue, they need to start doing this. Or 467 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: just when times are good, get a routine, look mental health. 468 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: They'll go to therapist after. 469 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 3: It's too late, right, Or you don't only try it, 470 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 3: you don't only swim when your time is up. 471 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: You're doing all the fucking time. 472 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: All the time, or I love it. They're like, uh no, 473 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: we can't get a therapy appointment for six weeks, and 474 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: like six weeks comes up and like, oh no, I 475 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: don't need to go anymore. I'm fine. Actually you're not. 476 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: You're not fine. I'm one thing for fine. It's freaked out, insecure, 477 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: neurotic and emotional and you can only be fine on Mondays. 478 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: I like that. Holy shit, I like that a lot. 479 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: We used to say that my coach, my mom and 480 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: I used to always say that back in the day. 481 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: You just said something also like, man, I can't get 482 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: a therapy appointment for six weeks. 483 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: That is a problem. It's a huge problem. But what 484 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: we can do is what you did recently is like, 485 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: are you're struggling. 486 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: You reached out to me, like there are we could 487 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: be each other's therapists and lean on each other. And 488 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: it gets us like, I don't know about you, man, 489 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: but every time I've opened up this somebody, and my 490 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: friends are the baddest motherfuckers in the planet. 491 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: You know, they are the most macho people of all time. 492 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 2: It has just gotten us closer together. 493 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: Nobody's called me a whisp, nobody's told me to suck 494 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: it up, nobody said, oh stop, jay man, your life 495 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: is too great. 496 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: But it's just gotten us closer together one hundred percent. 497 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: Like there are few people that, honestly, like I've always respected, 498 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: but I never thought I'd be as close as I 499 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: am because of that. Right, Like, I feel like there 500 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: are a few random people in my life that I've 501 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: become friends with who just send a random text and 502 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: I looked down. I'm like, oh, hey, what's up, dude. 503 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: You know, like I always put a smile on my 504 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: face or like, you know, always like I feel safe 505 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: and comfortable with. So I feel like that's something that's 506 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: so special. Yes, building that brotherhood, building that trust, that bond. 507 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: It's hard to put into words, but it's cool. 508 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: Here's another thing I do, by the way, I forgot 509 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: when I am struggling, I will do what you did. 510 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: I'll reach out to four my boys and say I'm 511 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: struggling today, I need some help. But the same day, 512 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: I'll reach out to four other people and just check 513 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 3: up on them, just like you were saying, like, oh, 514 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: random text, because that's me being of service to somebody. 515 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: Else, and that also helps me cut through the gray. 516 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: I didn't want to forget. 517 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: That one hundred percent. And I feel like that's that's 518 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: so true because it's like what you do you get 519 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: back ten times, right, you know, like and that right then, 520 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: like you you reaching out, like you're opening up, like 521 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: you're becoming vulnerable, like being a friend to somebody else 522 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: that potentially is going through the same thing, you know. 523 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: So I feel like that's that's so that's awesome. 524 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago ahead on Andrew Whitworth, the 525 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: captain of the Rams, right, you know, looks like me 526 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: except eight feet dollar so extremely sexy. But man, I'm 527 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: with him in the car after they win the Super Bowl, 528 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 3: and he opened up about this on this podcast and 529 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: he was in. 530 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: The fucking tek. He just it's the. 531 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: Greatest moment of his career. He wins it all. He's 532 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: the oldest person to ever start at tackling the history 533 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: of the NFL, much less than us be a captain 534 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl game, and he's in the front 535 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: seat of the car with his head in his hands, 536 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: and he is in the TEK and I am trying 537 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: to boost him up, saying, dude, He's like, I just 538 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: I don't deserve it. 539 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm not worthy of this. 540 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: When you win your gold medals, are you able to 541 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: celebrate yourself? I just heard you already grown. Are you 542 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: able to celebrate yourself or do you go through something similar? 543 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: It's hard because, like you know, I think once I 544 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 1: win one, I had to be able to, like in 545 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: one ear out the other, right, because there was six 546 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: or seven more that I was trying to swim or 547 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: win that week. At the end of the week, it's 548 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: hard to sit still because I'm on a whirlwind tour, 549 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: right like that first like week, two weeks, you're jumping 550 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: all over the place doing different shows. But I think 551 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: after that it's kind of like, what's next? Who am I? 552 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: What's my identity? And I think that's the scary part, 553 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: right because I think you you work so hard for 554 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, for me anyway, I feel like I work 555 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: so hard to get to that point, and at the 556 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: snap of your fingers, it's gone, it's done, it's finished. 557 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: It's not gone, you did it. 558 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the problem. That's the problems we have, 559 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: right Yeah, Like I guess, like, but I never I 560 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: never sat and celebrated like I never. I guess I 561 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: never could. I remember, I'll never forget. You know, when 562 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: I won my first one back in two thousand and four, 563 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: the very first day of the Olympics for four and 564 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: I am, I went four oh eight and I win 565 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: and I you know, have the medal, share it with 566 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: my mom through a chain link fence and she's like, oh, yeah, 567 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: it's so awesome. I'm like, yeah, we did it. And 568 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: my coach is like, hey, we got a warm down. Time, 569 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: we got another race tomorrow. I'm like, oh great, like cool, 570 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: like shove it my bag, all right, Cool, time to 571 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: go to the next one. Like That's basically what it 572 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: was my career. I would say I've gotten through two 573 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I've been able to process everything to 574 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: that point. Twenty twelve for me, is one of the 575 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: most challenging Olympics of my life because I wasn't happy 576 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: with the results, but again, I got the results that 577 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: I deserved. So it's it's hard for me to watch 578 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: those races because I literally was off by that. But 579 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: then again, if I don't do that, then I don't 580 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: come back for sixteen. So it's just trying to process 581 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But yeah, it's it's I've never 582 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: been able to celebrate. 583 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: But like to this day, have you since been able 584 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: to sit back and go, oh man, what do you mean? No, Well, dude, 585 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: you need to need to. You deserve to more than anything. 586 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: You deserve to. 587 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: You put that work in, you spilt that sweat, you 588 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 3: deserve to. That's something you've got to work on. Is 589 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 3: being able to love yourself up. Something that again exactly 590 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: the same thing I was talking about with Wit, Like, 591 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 3: we deserve to love ourselves, so we do something that 592 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: is great. 593 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm not saying I'm not proud, I'm not 594 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: happy of the accomplishments, but I mean I feel like 595 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: like also, like I'm somebody who is so detail oriented, 596 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: so it's hard for me to sit and try to 597 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: really process every single moment in memory like I want to. 598 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm in the process of just finishing a book. I 599 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: just got the second It's not asshole, I just spin it. Well, 600 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: I just got the second manuscript. We ripped up the 601 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: first one and went back and kind of reprogrammed everything 602 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: into the right spot. So I'm finishing that and hopefully 603 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: that's out soon. 604 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: Oh you're finishing your own book. I think you're reading 605 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: the book. That's how I was, like, you, asshole, I 606 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: read my book. 607 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, I'm finishing yeah. Yeah. So for you, 608 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm super pumped about it, and I think that's something 609 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: that that will help me process some of it too, right, 610 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: being able to read it and see it all on paper. 611 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: I think living it through the pandemic was challenging emotionally, 612 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: but I think it was also really cool because I 613 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: was able to learn and grow through those emotions that 614 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: I went through. 615 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: So I want to get back to this. You get 616 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: a gold metal yep. 617 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: We see you really really happy out there going nuts, 618 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: but you're not that happy on the inside. 619 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: Is that I can't be because I have to be 620 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: able to control the emotions and really everything, my physical, mental, 621 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: everything well being through those next few days. Because I can't. 622 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: I don't well I don't want to say I can't, 623 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: but I shouldn't really kind of pour too many emotions 624 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: into one event, because then I'm draining myself for the 625 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: whole entire week. So when I won eight gold medals 626 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, that process started back in 627 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: two thousand and two when I was trying to learn 628 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: how to adapt to swimming that many races and clear 629 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: my lactic acid and swim down and eat enough and 630 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: sleep enough and do all and stretch enough and make 631 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: sure I'm doing all the small details. So after I 632 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: win a gold metal, what I would do is typically 633 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: I get off of the awards stand. It depends if 634 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: I had another race or not, if I was done 635 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: for the night, I would typically just get probably get 636 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: back in and clear my lactic acid. So we'd prick 637 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: our ear, take a blood sample my lactic acid. I'd 638 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: be below anything below three point zero and I'm good. 639 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: So I would just swim at my heart I keep 640 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: my heart rate about one twenty, and I would just 641 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: swim comfortably up and down, up and down, up and 642 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: down until my lactic acid cleared. Once it was cleared, 643 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: I'd hop out of the pool. I'd hop on the 644 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: massage table and get a massage. Once I'm done the massage, 645 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: I'd get a dinner that they have pre made. Typically 646 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: it's like pasta, you know, some kind of carb a 647 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: little bit of protein. I jump into a cold bath. 648 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm eating while I'm in the cold bath. I get 649 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: on the I get out of the cold tub, put 650 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: all my clothes on, get on the bus, still eating. 651 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: If I'm still hungry, go into the dining hall and 652 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: get food. By that point I need to get into 653 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: bed because I swim the next morning, right right, But 654 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: all those emotions. 655 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: The day after you win eight fucking gold medals, are 656 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: you able to sit and go, oh my god, I 657 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: did this. 658 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I still had to come on and do 659 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: all the interviews with y'all. 660 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm in football, let's say y'all. But were you 661 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: able to? Was there so? Still? 662 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: There's never a moment even were you doing the interviews 663 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: where you're able to I mean, I do, and love 664 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: yourself up for it, I mean, love yourself up really Okay, 665 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: since then, since your career has ended. We ran into 666 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: in Vegas with Sean McVay, right, and McVay was like, dude, 667 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: you're one of one. I'm like, yes, he's one of one. 668 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: Are you able to appreciate that? 669 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: I love that conversation? Yeah, I mean, and and honestly, 670 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, until somebody breaks my records. Yeah, 671 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: I guess I'm one of one. Yes, you know. 672 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: There's no guessing here, You're one of one. 673 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Dude. I guess the one thing that is crazy, Like 674 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: thinking about it now, I've only looked at the medals 675 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: all at once less than a handful of times, right, 676 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: I guess the easiest way of saying is I don't 677 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: want them to define who I am as a human, right, 678 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: Like that's a chapter of who I am and what 679 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: i'm you know, what I feel like I'm doing or 680 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to do, right Like for me, like 681 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: that gave me the platform to be able to have 682 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: what I have today, right, you know, to be able 683 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: to stand up and to allow us to scream about 684 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: mental health. Right look, yes, is it was? It amazing 685 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: what I did, of course, Like I'm literally looking at 686 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: a finish right now above my desk where I want 687 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: to race by a hundredth of a second, right, one 688 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: hundredth of a second, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 689 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: without question, Like there have been a few times I'm 690 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: like shit, like that was awesome, Like there are full spots, 691 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, like I had some great, great memories, some 692 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: amazing things, but I think as a whole. No, like 693 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: when like when somebody reads a bio and they're like 694 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: twenty three time gold medalists, twenty eight time Olympic medalists, 695 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: thirty nine time world record holder. I'm like, what, Like, 696 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: is this a dream? Like I feel like it is, 697 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: because like this is what I dreamt of as a kid. 698 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to do something that no one else had 699 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: ever done. And I'm living a fucking dream come true, 700 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like that's the reality of it. 701 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, like there are some things that really hard 702 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: to process, and and yeah there are some things that 703 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: I look and I'm like, wow, like this is incredible 704 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: for me. Now it's the mental health. That story I 705 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: shared about the cell phones. That story, for me, I 706 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: will never forget, and I'll never forget how I felt, 707 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'll never forget sitting next to a guy 708 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: on an airplane. This guy is probably like mid sixties, 709 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: white haired dude, and he was like, so you're telling 710 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: me you just talk about mental health and you think 711 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna help, and you think, he goes, that's a 712 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: sign of weakness. And I was like, and I literally 713 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: was like I was like, all right, I was like, okay, bro, 714 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: like we're on an airplane. I like take headphones out. 715 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, now we're getting serious. Like I 716 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: wanted to go tyson on him, like right right him? 717 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: How's it called? Michael Phelps? A side of weakness? Are 718 00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: you should make? 719 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: Oh? I almost went nuts and I was like, dude, 720 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, So I basically listed like ten 721 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: different things. I was like, do you or your family 722 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: struggle from PTSD, you know, depression anxiety? He goes no, 723 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: and I go and how enough? Do you have any 724 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: right saying exactly what you just said to me? And 725 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: he goes, I've struck a nerve and I said, yes 726 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: you have. I said, You've triggered something, sir, And I said, 727 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to finish this conversation right now, because I 728 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: didn't know, honestly at that moment, like I was so raged, 729 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: I was so angered inside. I didn't know what to do, 730 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: and the only thing I could do is I knew 731 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: I had to be as polite as I possibly could 732 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: to shut the conversation down and get out. But it's 733 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: like stuff like that, that's the thing that makes me 734 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: happy with the fights that I'm doing. Every single day, 735 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: whether it's for me, whether it's for you, whether it's 736 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: for somebody else. Right, because we're saving a life. 737 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: I want you to go back a second ear, because 738 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: we could have both. I want you to go back 739 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: and say, maybe the okay, you don't want to say 740 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: the gold medals to find you okay, but maybe you 741 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: look at the gold medals. 742 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: And go the work that put in for those that 743 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: defines me. That's who the fuck I am for sure. 744 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you outwork the world. You didn't just put to work. 745 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: You outwork the world. 746 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: There's a question. There's a question somebody gave me once 747 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: and a reporter, European reporter goes, do you ever feel 748 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: bad for winning all those medals? I started laughing my 749 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: ass off. I was like, excuse me, And he goes, 750 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: do you feel bad for the other people? And I 751 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: go no, I go they could have worked hard too. 752 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: It's exactly right, No question is that like I did, 753 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: Like I earned those things right there? 754 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: So then I could lift you up. 755 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: Yes, sure, like for me, like I look back and 756 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: I'll look and say I went six straight years without 757 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: missing a single day. Did any other person ever do that? 758 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: No? 759 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: So I gave myself a better chance to have greater 760 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: success with the things that I did that nobody else, 761 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: nobody else, we're willing to do. So, No, I don't 762 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: feel bad for winning all those medals. 763 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: Maybe you could look at the metals more though, and 764 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: then think of that. 765 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: Right, Hey, I'm proud of myself because I put in 766 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 3: more work than anybody. 767 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: Else, not by a little, but by a lot. And 768 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: not only that, Michael, you put in the work when 769 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: nobody else was watching. That's what true greatness is, right. 770 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: That under armor commercial I did. I guess back in sixteen. 771 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: It's what it's what you do behind the scenes, in 772 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 1: the dark that brings you to the light. 773 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: Right. 774 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: It's the things that you do when when you don't 775 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: want to do them right, that that brings you into 776 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: being who you are, Right, that's what the greats do. Like, 777 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: that's the difference between being great and being good. To 778 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: do great, you have to do things that people aren't 779 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: willing to do, right. Like, that's the separation. 780 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: I ask all my guests their last question, give me 781 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 3: your unbreakable moment. Give me that moment that should have 782 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: broken you could have broken you, and you didn't, and 783 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 3: you came through the other side of that tunnel. 784 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: It's probably the moment of not wanting to be alive, 785 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: you know. I think I was at a dark spot 786 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: in my life where at that moment I was I 787 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: was prescribed ambient from three different doctors monthly. I was 788 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: happy I only had three pills left. It was the 789 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: night of my duy, my second one, twenty fourteen, and 790 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: I got home and I just remember I was like, fuck, 791 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm just going to take the rest of these and 792 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: I hope I don't wake up. Meanwhile, like I knew 793 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: I was going to wake up, Like I was taking 794 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: fifteen milligrams almost every night, Like I knew I was 795 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: going to wake up, and I was just like, I 796 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: hope this ends it. And I woke up and for 797 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: three days I basically didn't leave my room. I didn't eat, 798 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: I didn't drink anything. 799 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: I just sat there. 800 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: I was just being And at that very moment, I 801 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: was like, fuck this, I got a change. 802 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 2: How can I change? 803 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: And I literally called two people and I said, find 804 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: me some kind of help. 805 00:35:59,440 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: Where can I go? 806 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: Because I honestly like it was kind of like the 807 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: moment where I was like, I can't live life like this. 808 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: I have to change. Something has to change, what has 809 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: to change. So I was like, I'm gonna check myself 810 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: in a treatment center and figure things out. Right, unplug 811 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: all those wires, decompressed fit like, uncover all the shit 812 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: that I was going through, why I was going through it, 813 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: and kind of reprocess how I how I live, and 814 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: uncover why I am why I am. Look like when 815 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: I went to the Meadows, I spent a week in 816 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: this thing called Survivors, where it was basically taking everything 817 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: that was ever hurting me inside and just unloading it, 818 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: talking about the most painful things I must have I 819 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: must have gone through. I'm looking for cleanexes. I must 820 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: have gone through a box of fucking cleanexes every single session, 821 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: every session. And right then and there, I was like, 822 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: okay nothing. I was like, I am unbreakable. I was like, 823 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 1: this stuff literally should have broken me throughout my whole 824 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: entire career, right, you know, the shit that I dealt 825 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: with and I lived with and you know made me 826 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: struggle throughout my whole entire career made me who I am. 827 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: And that's what you said to me the other day 828 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 1: in to text. You know, you said something along those lines. 829 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, it made me who I am today, right, 830 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: and at that very moment, like, yeah, I could have 831 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: I could have been snapped in hash, but that's not 832 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: who I am and I wasn't gonna let that happen, right, 833 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm sitting here today talking to you 834 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: on this podcast. Right. You know, like shit, we all 835 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: go through ups and downs, we all we all go 836 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: through times that we think are unfathomable, shouldn't happen, darkest 837 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: moments you could ever possibly process. Like I always think 838 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: like everything happens for a reason, and those moments are 839 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: put in our life for that challenge. And yeah, are 840 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: they fucked up at times? Sure, of course they are, 841 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: some of them. Like I can look back at some 842 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: of them now and you know, flick off and you know, 843 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: shake my head and laugh. But you know, those are 844 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: the moments that give me the opportunity to be who 845 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: I am today. And I think that's the proudest thing 846 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: that I can ever look at. 847 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: I love that, man. 848 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: You know. It's like like we got we got to 849 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: think about the ship that we've gone through and the 850 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: heart we've gone through, and we always have to remember that, right, 851 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: Like you said it best like that that inner child. Man. 852 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: That is so good. I love that you said that, 853 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: because not many people have really like dove into that, 854 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: and that's something that I can still go back to 855 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: that painting that I drew, but when I was at 856 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: the meadows of my inner child and exactly where he's 857 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: standing and what he's doing, and you know what kind 858 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: of person he is and the attention that he adores 859 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: and he seeks. So yeah, I could go into deeper 860 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: conversations with that whenever you want. Brother. 861 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. First of all, I'm glad. Do you 862 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: only have three ambient left? 863 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 864 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: For sure, this number one because now I get a 865 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 3: battle buddy for the rest of my life and you 866 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 3: and I get to keep walking this walk together. I'm 867 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 3: proud to call you brother, proud to call your friend man. 868 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: I'm proud proud to walk this walk with you. 869 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: Dude. 870 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: If I was sitting there in your house, I'd give 871 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: you a big ass hug. Man. I will next time 872 00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: I see you. 873 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 3: You got my brother again, Michael Phelps, one of one. 874 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us here and Unbreakable. If you 875 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 3: haven't read the book yet, there's a book out Unbreakable. 876 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 3: How I turn my depression, anxiety, and a motivation you 877 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 3: can too, and that's what Michael and I are doing. 878 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 2: Again. Make sure you like and review this as well. 879 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: And Michael Phelps, brother, I love you and I appreciate you. 880 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you one more thing. This is something 881 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: I did when I was in treatment, and it's kind 882 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: of weird to think about, but you know, we have 883 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: so much talk that goes into our head every single day. 884 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: So you know, I call it the roommates in my head, 885 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: the roommates in our heads. So we have so many 886 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: roommates in our heads, so we can control what those 887 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: roommates think. So the thing that I did at the 888 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: Meadows was every single doorway I would walk into, whether 889 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: it's a bathroom, whether it's a bathroom stall, whatever doorway 890 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: you're walking in and you're walking out, you say an 891 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: affirmation about yourself and one that you believe. And I 892 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: guarant guarantee you you do that for a month. Have 893 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: a list of ten affirmations. You just have to top 894 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: your head. Holy shit, just watch, but. 895 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 3: Positive affirmation, positive affirmations, something nice about myself. 896 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: Like for me, like I I never thought that, like 897 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: I deserve love. And that was right right there with 898 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: you always struggled with and I would always say I 899 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: can handle love. I deserve love, and I walk through it, 900 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh shit, cool, like like you deserve 901 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: feel better, like you feel happier. So I feel like 902 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, like I feel like It's like I'm always 903 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: searching for little small ways or little small things that 904 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: you can implement in your life that don't take too 905 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: much brain power, right, that don't take too much space, right, Like, 906 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: little small habits whatever it is, right that you can 907 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: just throw in there every single day to give yourself 908 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: a fighting chance, right, Like we're all just looking for 909 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: a chance to get through each day to go to 910 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: one more. So how can you fight? And how can 911 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: you fight in a positive way? 912 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: You know what? I want to begin this to day. 913 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: I love it. 914 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm starting it today. I'm starting it today. And that's 915 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: where I tell people all the time, you could change 916 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 2: your life now you have to wait. It takes a 917 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 2: practice of change your life. Now. I will start it today. 918 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 3: And that's what's great about these like I And you 919 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 3: know I hit you up a couple of weeks ago 920 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 3: about being your own hero, right, Start being your own hero. 921 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 3: Start viewing yourself as your own hero. We can make 922 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 3: a choice to start loving ourselves up or make a 923 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: change about our mental health or anything in our in 924 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 3: our lives instantaneously. So I promise you, I give you 925 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 3: my word right now, I will start doing this today. 926 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: And now you bring me to another point and choice. 927 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: We also have control. What's in our control every single day? Right, 928 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: there's so much shit and so much stuff. 929 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: Our choice is in our control. 930 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: Correct, Right, that's like, that's something for me. Like, Like 931 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: I like I have two tattoos and the word control 932 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: is something I'm I want somewhere on my body, so 933 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: I look at every single day because that's something I 934 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: like for me. Like, I can control my emotions. I 935 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: can talk about my emotions. I can talk about my feelings. 936 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: I can write down those things. 937 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: Right. 938 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: I can control if I'm thirsty. I can control if 939 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: I need to go to the bathroom, I go to the bathroom. Right, 940 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: those are things that are in my control. So when 941 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: I talk about simplifying things in the most purest form, 942 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: most simplest way, right, it's control. What can you control 943 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: every day? Another one? Another love trick. I love to 944 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: do it a couple. Let's keep doing it. 945 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: Let's keep pay brother. I don't know if we're going 946 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 2: to save the world, but we're damn sure to. 947 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: Improve it together, one person at a time. YEP. 948 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 2: I love you, my dude, Michael Phelps. 949 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for me, Thanks dude,