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Speaker 1: Welcome back to season three of The head Start Embracing

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Speaker 1: the Journey. I'm Norah McNerney. We're here to highlight the

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Speaker 1: real stories of people living with chronic migraine, getting a

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Speaker 1: glimpse into their day to day life, navigating not just

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Speaker 1: the physical symptoms, but also the stigmas they face and

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Speaker 1: the treatment journey thereon. This show is brought to you

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Speaker 1: in partnership with ABV. If you're new to the show,

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Speaker 1: there are fourteen episodes already out and worth a listen,

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Speaker 1: each one looking at chronic migraine through a different lens,

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Speaker 1: but sharing a common theme, a theme of resilience. I

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Speaker 1: was grateful to talk to Jamie, whose father's medical background

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Speaker 1: and access to proper healthcare gave her a unique advantage

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Speaker 1: in getting an appropriate diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: My father really being a strong advocate for people having

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Speaker 2: a voice and people having equitable care. That really trickled

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Speaker 2: down to me and my sisters.

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Speaker 1: And Marina, who is trying to figure out what was

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Speaker 1: happening with her almost daily micro attacks while juggling the

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Speaker 1: responsibilities of raising two young children.

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Speaker 3: My daughter she would be crying, my son he would

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Speaker 3: be running around without pants. And I would sometimes sit

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Speaker 3: on the floor and just cry. You know, my husband

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Speaker 3: would come home. The babies are crying, the wife is crying.

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Speaker 3: It was hard. It was so hard. I couldn't lay

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Speaker 3: down in the quiet dark room because I had to

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Speaker 3: take care of the kids.

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Speaker 1: I think we're all making up this parenting thing as

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Speaker 1: we go. No one really has all the answers, which

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Speaker 1: is why I was blown away hearing how Angel was

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Speaker 1: walking her adult sons through their own diagnoses after living

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Speaker 1: with chronic migraine herself.

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Speaker 4: What I also hope is that Exavier and Zion both

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Speaker 4: see that living with migraine doesn't make them broken or inferior,

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Speaker 4: and in some ways it gives them an insight and

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Speaker 4: a life level of compassion for others that I truly

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Speaker 4: always see.

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Speaker 1: Throughout these real and intimate conversations, we will be joined

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Speaker 1: yet again by my friend, doctor Christopher Ryan, who will

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Speaker 1: provide us with his unique perspective, having treated people living

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Speaker 1: with migraine for over fifteen years.

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Speaker 5: When you treat chronic migraine patients frequently and for as

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Speaker 5: long as I have, you see how isolated and dismissed

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Speaker 5: they can feel. And this is regardless of race, gender,

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Speaker 5: anything else. And so It's important to make sure that

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Speaker 5: a person sitting across from you feel seen. You ask

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Speaker 5: about them. You want to hear their story. You want

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Speaker 5: to know who they are, what makes them tick, what

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Speaker 5: makes them happy, and how you can participate in their

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Speaker 5: health goals in their story.

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Speaker 1: So we're back for season three, working to reshape the

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Speaker 1: conversation around chronic migraine to be one that is more

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Speaker 1: empathetic and more understanding. There shouldn't be as much stigma

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Speaker 1: or hesitation when asking for help. Come join us and

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Speaker 1: listen to the head Start Embracing the Journey on the

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.