1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: This he's Talking Cowboys Straining live from. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys World Head Course at the Star in fris. 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 4: Joe past twenty touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 4: Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans. 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 5: It's a wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 5: Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas, 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 5: in the s WBC studios. 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: As we welcome you and everybody. 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 5: We've got Chris Beam in the back punching the buttons, 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 5: making us happen having it on air every day. And 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 5: we've got Pete and Papett, Patrick Nocy Walker, Pat Patrick Walker, 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 5: got Isaiah. 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Stand Back, We've got Josh Rodriguez and Kylie Owmans. Glad 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: you're with us. 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 5: Today is our Defensive Preview, as it is of course. 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: Week one of the NFL season. 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about the Cowboys defense and what they 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 5: have going up against DeShawn Watson, the Nick Chubbliss Cleveland Browns, 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 5: and uh one guy at receiver that we know pretty well. 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: A little bit one kind of familiar. 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about all of that throughout the course 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 5: of the show. How's everybody doing today? Everybody good? 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 6: Fantastically, Yeah, excellent, feeling great, feeling re energized, even though 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 6: we just did nine podcasts yesterday, you know, to need see. 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: And that's so we're pulling the curtain back a little 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: bit for Josh. 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 5: Josh starts today with us on our show and then 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 5: immediately hops into the podcast control room behind us with 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: Chris Beam and helps Beam produce post edit I mean, 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 5: literally every other podcast the rest of the day. 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 6: So until people text tweet Derek and like where are 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 6: the podcasts at? It's like, oh, all nine of them? 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 6: Where from today? 38 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Is my mixed shots today? 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 6: Exactly? 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: And then Derek, is there a reason? 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 7: Is there a reason why you see like pact, you 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 7: see Derek's contact on your phone pop up, and like 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 7: you have one ruins my new reactions. 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: You are the either like oh, I'm. 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: Doing a great job because he'll call and he'll give 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 5: you props, like it will happen all the time, or 47 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: it's like, oh, yes, there's no am I getting called 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: to the principal's office. 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: That's what we always talk about. It's just pure stress. 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 6: And I got in the middle of a movie yesterday 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 6: I got I got my Derek text in the middle 52 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 6: of watching a movie. I was at the theater and 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, I can't focus on this anymore. 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: A little bit of anxiety took over there. 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 7: For the rest of that movie, you were replaying from 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 7: his seat. 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: Laptop like the movie. 58 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 5: Like Wi Fi connections started to fade a little bit 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 5: because he had the hot spot up in the in 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 5: the theater projection. 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 6: It's like, can you pause it for just one minute? 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: Just a minute, I promise, so it'll be okay. 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 5: Oh man, Well yeah, re energize is what it feels like. 64 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: Oh, it feels great, and back to it. I think 65 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: it's it's. 66 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 5: Even better once you get into a routine and you 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 5: get the same show every day. 68 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: We're here at nine am every day to break it 69 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: down for you. 70 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 5: But before we get into our preview, let's go to 71 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 5: some news and notes with Patrick Nocy Walker. 72 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 7: So yesterday was a couple of transactions one would well 73 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 7: both were were more or less expected. Obviously, Villiami Junior 74 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 7: for Hoko, former fourth round pick from last year. He 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 7: was officially released from the Cowboys. Initially during the roster cutdowns, 76 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 7: he was waived injured and it was an expectation that 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 7: that would result in an injury settlement, which is the 78 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 7: two side, which is exactly what the two sides came 79 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 7: to terms on. So Fajoko is a free agent and 80 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 7: the Cowboys made the official the release of David Dirt 81 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 7: and wide receiver. He is out as well. And we 82 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 7: didn't speak on this before now, but I want everyone 83 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 7: to know who may not know. Al Quadem Muhammad was 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 7: released late last week. If you remember, he did play 85 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 7: well in the preseason. He performed well and you know 86 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 7: once he was at it in camp, but also needed 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 7: to still serve that one game suspension which was coming 88 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 7: due week one. The Cowboys didn't need to carry him. 89 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 7: He was on the suspended reserve list, but apparently they 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 7: chose to move on, which they are more within you know, 91 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 7: within the rights to do so. He is a free 92 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 7: agent as well. Al Kadem Muhammad is not going to 93 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 7: be on the Cowboys' depth chart. I like week two. Yeah, 94 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 7: AQM is what I called him. I liked the AQB. 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 7: We talked about that last week a little bit. Yeah, 96 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 7: he showed some promise. He showed promise. It is possible, 97 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 7: but it does. It is kind of a head scratcher 98 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 7: in the capacity of if you're wondering if they will 99 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 7: bring him back, which is possible, makes you wonder why 100 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 7: they release him in the first place when he was 101 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 7: not being a hit, When he wasn't a hit to 102 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 7: a roster seat at all. So they didn't have to 103 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 7: make a decision on him until after week one, but 104 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 7: they proactively made that decision. So something kind of went 105 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 7: a ride there, it feels like, but I don't have 106 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 7: all the details on it, so I won't speculate. 107 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was the response to the Sam Williams injury. 108 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: If he was, he was in that Carl Lawson and 109 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: it was him AQ. 110 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 5: And Boston's on the practice squad, correct, right, So you 111 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 5: have one of those guys on the practice squad, you 112 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: wave Tony, Are there any. 113 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: Other practice spot positions open? 114 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 7: They're maxed, so they have the seventeen, which is the 115 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 7: sixteen plus you get the IPP exception for Denzel decks 116 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 7: and so they're maxed at seventeen. 117 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: Would you like to see aqm back? 118 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 6: He had flashes in the preseason, no doubt, but I 119 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 6: think they probably see more potential in Karl Lawson. 120 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't feel that way though. 121 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 8: I definitely don't feel that way at all. I don't 122 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 8: think Carl Lawson he did not possess the juice that 123 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 8: I was looking for from that particular position. I think 124 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 8: he looks like a transformer, for sure. 125 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: He's yeah, he lives the all Hotel Lobby team. 126 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 8: It looks like a weight room monster. But from what 127 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 8: I saw, he didn't have more than one move. He 128 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 8: went upfield, got jammed up. He was either going to 129 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 8: get to the quarterback or not. He didn't give it 130 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 8: to the quarterback. He didn't seem like he had too 131 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 8: much agility and too many, too many other moves in 132 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 8: his bag. 133 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 6: And was that not being in shape for football season. 134 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 135 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 8: I didn't see any change ups. I was watching them. 136 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 8: I was watching them because I was looking at those 137 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 8: two I like. 138 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: I like AQ. 139 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 8: I think he's one of the few true defensive ends 140 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 8: that the Cowboys had in camp this year. That's that's 141 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 8: just my opinion. I think Chauncey Golson is not a 142 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 8: true d N. I don't think Tyris and We. I 143 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 8: think Tyris we is kind. 144 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Of a tweener. Yeah, he's a tweener. 145 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 9: You know. 146 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 8: Obviously you got Micah, obviously you have d Law. But 147 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 8: those are the only two that are like true dns. 148 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 8: Marshaw Kneeland, everybody's talking about him, He's not a d 149 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 8: N to me. He doesn't possess what I considered to 150 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 8: be a d M. Maybe in this new Mike Zimmer system, 151 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 8: but when you're talking about, hey, I want you to 152 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 8: get the quarterback, it's not a guy that you're necessarily 153 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 8: gonna look at. 154 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 7: And that's where they're trying to unlock with Marshawn Naland 155 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 7: and speaking with Nland over the course of training camp. 156 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 7: Obviously he knows the Cowboys. We know that one of 157 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 7: his green greenest of flags was his run defense at 158 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 7: the edge. So I think him hearing everyone praise that, 159 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 7: which is completely fine. He feels like not enough people 160 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 7: are talking about his ability to rush the passer. 161 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: So there are more than on more than. 162 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 7: One occasion when Kneeland proactively brought up how he was 163 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 7: working on unlocking that pass rush ability completely. So to 164 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 7: your point, maybe in Zimmer system and working with coach 165 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 7: z and Greg Ellis, maybe they'll be able to unlock 166 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 7: that as the season goes on. But I will say 167 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 7: Nieland did show some good penetration into the opposing pocket 168 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 7: over the course of the preseason during his snap, So 169 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 7: there's some progression there. But let's see, like Isaia said, 170 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 7: let's see if it gets completely unlocked as early as 171 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 7: this year, because they needed as early as this year 172 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 7: with Sam out. 173 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, because you need a guy that's going to stop 174 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 5: the run and set the edge, and he's the leader. 175 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Contained is the big thing. I mean, just keep it 176 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: inside the tackles and you have a mobile quarterback coming. 177 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: You've got a couple of special teams too. 178 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 8: They're gonna have these guys on the depth chart and 179 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 8: they have to be versatile on your on your teams. 180 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if you're going to see Marshaun 181 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 5: Eves run down the field at six four to two specialty. 182 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 183 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 8: And both those guys play heavy to me, you know 184 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 8: what I mean, like they play heavy absolutely? 185 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I do agree. 186 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 8: Well, long linky athletic. He mean, if you're going to 187 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 8: drop an athlete, that's what you draw up right there. 188 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Well, when we talked about this too, But if that's 189 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: a conversation. 190 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: You don't think John Fossil said or looked at the 191 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 5: list and said, Okay, John, uh, you've got Carl Lawson, 192 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 5: you've got a QM. Make your decision. Whoever's whoever you 193 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 5: want will be on the practice. 194 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 8: I don't think that was his decision. Yeah, if he 195 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 8: came down to that, I don't believe that that was 196 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 8: his decision. I think if he did have an opportunity 197 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 8: to put his finger on somebody, it was Tyros Whet. 198 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: I was about to say, I think it was a dialogue. 199 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 7: And if that were the case, and he was saying 200 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 7: he being bones Fossil, he was saying, Hey, I want 201 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 7: a QM over Carl Lawson for special teams purposes. They 202 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 7: probably rebutted and said, we'll give you a Tyros Wheat 203 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 7: if you give Mike zimmer Carlawston. So I'm I mean, 204 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 7: it's always an open dialogue when you're talking about roster goods. 205 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: So, yeah, you gotta play the game. You gotta play 206 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: the game. It's it's not easy to do. 207 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 8: But again, going back, but going back to this conversation 208 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 8: we had yesterday, this is not a d N featured defense, no, 209 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 8: correct So as much as we're inside as we're used 210 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 8: to these great defensive ends for the Dallas Cowboys over 211 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 8: the years, and there still is one obviously in the room, 212 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 8: and Michael parsons that he will be utilized and he 213 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 8: will eat as usual. That's not the feature of this defense, 214 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 8: and obviously we'll get into it today. 215 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: These linebackers are the stars of the show. Is the 216 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: stars of the show. 217 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 7: Any other news in those that come to mind, No, 218 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 7: unless I'm missing one, I don't think so. 219 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: No, yesterday, because they didn't practice yesterday. 220 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 7: So using that as a segue to today, the Cowboys 221 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 7: will return to practice. Today will be and this is 222 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 7: how we know we're back, baby. 223 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: Today will be. 224 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 7: The first official practice report. We get practice reports effective today, 225 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 7: so we will get an official tracker for what's going 226 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 7: on with whoever is dealing with any type of ailment. 227 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 7: But as it stands. 228 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Now, way too much panic Wednesday, of course, absolute. 229 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 7: You're going to see like Brandon Cooks probably limited and 230 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 7: people I thought Brandon Cooks, he's fine. 231 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: Marsh On Nealand's gonna have like a toe, he's fine. 232 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: Who yeah, get ready for that. 233 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 7: But cowboys return to practice today, and they're really going 234 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 7: to start ratcheting things up over the next three days, 235 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 7: three to four days to get ready for that trip 236 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 7: to Cleveland in because there's a lot that awaits them. 237 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: Yes, at Cleveland Brown Stadium, Yes there is. 238 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 5: Would you ever be the Bill Belichick of practice reports 239 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: and just put. 240 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: Everybody on there. I'm not disclosing anything that actually need. 241 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 5: Needs to be out there, but that that's how you 242 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 5: do it. You muddy the water. You put every single name. 243 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 5: Josh has a shoulder, You've got a hip, You've got 244 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 5: an ankle, I've got need. Yeah, whatever, it ends up 245 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 5: being for people that have them. 246 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: But he has an ear, he has one, Yeah, he got. 247 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 5: He's got your playing head, shoulders. 248 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: He lost, he lost. It's in his eye. Something's in 249 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: his eyes. He made a wish. 250 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 5: All right, let's get into that defensive preview, because, like 251 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 5: you said, Cleveland has. 252 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: A lot to look for. 253 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 5: Before we get into that, too, we got to look 254 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 5: at who's gonna play defense. Because the defensive depth chart 255 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 5: was released for the first time, the unofficial depth chart. 256 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read off the starters here. 257 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 5: Stop me if there's any shockers, right, these are starters, 258 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: starters only. 259 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence Michaeh. Parsons. Nothing right there yet. 260 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna skip a name for a second os Di Gizua, 261 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 5: Damone Clark, Eric Kendricks, Maris Lea Foul, Trayvon Diggs, Cayln Carson, 262 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis, Donovan Wilson, Malie Cooker. 263 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: And the name I skipped was Mazzi Smith. 264 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 5: Any shockers, any surprises, not even the last name. 265 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 6: I think people might be shocked to see of overshown. However, 266 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 6: they've been listen listing Lea Foul over overshown since training camp, 267 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 6: since the first unofficial training camp. 268 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: That hence my no. Yeah, yeah, so it's. 269 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 6: No surprise to us, but it maybe people at home 270 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 6: might be surprised. 271 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 7: To see it, and they have been just based on 272 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 7: the responses that I've been getting. There's another name, offensively 273 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 7: as a starter that has people up in arms, who 274 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 7: will talk about that another time. But as far as Lea, 275 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 7: the Lea Foul Overshown dynamic, I mean to me, it 276 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 7: doesn't matter which one of those two guys you list 277 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 7: on paper as the starter. They're both going to play 278 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 7: rotationally and get a healthy amount of snaps. And also 279 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 7: keep in mind that Lea foul is versatile, so he'll 280 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 7: play Mike Sam and will and in those situations where 281 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 7: he's you know, playing in a different spot, then overshown 282 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 7: you will see them in sets where both of them 283 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 7: on the field at the same time. So again the 284 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 7: answer is no for me because I have an expectation 285 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 7: for how Mike Zimmer is going to use those two guys, 286 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 7: and it's going to be quite a bit. So who 287 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 7: the starter is is a non is a non starter 288 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 7: for this conversation. 289 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 5: You said a healthy amount of snaps for both of 290 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 5: those guys, What would that be like thirty five forty? 291 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, give or take? Then that, yeah, give her a take, give. 292 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 5: It because what do we think in probably like eighty 293 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 5: to ninety defensive snaps total? 294 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 6: Right, do you. 295 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Think it'll be eighty snaps or I think it's more 296 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: of a situation. What eighty snaps as a defense? Yeah, 297 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean Cleveland likes to get up and go No. 298 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: Sixty they also position to be sixty five. 299 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, Cleveland, along with the Cowboys, they were one of 300 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 7: the best in the league at time of possession as well. 301 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: So that they're gonna run the balls, I mean they're 302 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: going to run the ball. 303 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 7: There will be a lot of defensive reps for the 304 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 7: Cowboys in this game to come up because unless the 305 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 7: Cowboys can get off the field consistently on thirty third down, yeah, 306 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 7: those No. 307 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: Let's say let's say max of seventy. 308 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 5: If they're seventy set snaps max, would you say thirty 309 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 5: for lea foul, thirty. 310 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: For overshown, and then mix in another ten somewhere else. 311 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: I think this particular game looking at skill set, and 312 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 7: I know Lea File has a lot of speed, but 313 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 7: overshown go back and look at his Longhorns tape. This 314 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 7: dude is designed to get after mobile quarterbacks, right, so 315 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 7: when you're going against a guy like Deshaun Watson, I 316 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 7: feel like this is a game that would tilt slightly 317 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 7: toward Overshown having a higher snap count before it's all 318 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 7: said and done than Lea File. Now that again, that 319 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 7: does not to say Lea File is going to be 320 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 7: playing the bench, because he's not, because his speed is 321 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 7: going to be needed as well. But I do see 322 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 7: this as more more of an overshown game than Lea 323 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 7: fel I'm not sure I think they I don't think 324 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 7: they know. I don't think it is Week one. This 325 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 7: week one, don't and neither is played in this game. 326 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 8: We'll get into the details, I'm sure, but it's gonna 327 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 8: be whoever's the most physical this game. Whoever's most physical 328 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 8: is gonna be the one who gets regards to who 329 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 8: gets to start. Whoever's the most physical. 330 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 7: Physical just right now, based on college to see it, 331 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 7: I'm not going out of college. 332 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: Okay, what about when he's gone? 333 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 8: When these offensive guards can they pull guards all day long? 334 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 8: Three hundred and ten pounds comes around the corner and 335 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 8: comes up to the second level. 336 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Who's gonna come meet them? Overshowing did put on some more? 337 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: Who's gonna come meet them? Put on? That reason? 338 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 8: I want to see it for that reason. I want 339 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 8: to see who's gonna come down here. So that's that's 340 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 8: what's gonna determine it. Because if you're you're just scraping 341 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 8: across the across the formation, you're gonna get thrown out the. 342 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Club Jasey Jeff style. Yeah, fair enough, I like it. 343 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: I do so. 344 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 5: Official or unofficial depth chart released for the Cowboys going 345 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: into their Week one matchup. 346 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk more about the offensive. 347 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 5: Depth chart tomorrow and our offensive preview can't wait. 348 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 6: I did have one surprise though that you did. You 349 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 6: didn't mention as far as starters go, Uh, Israel mccuamo, he. 350 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: Was moved back to cornerback. 351 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 6: Did you guys see that. 352 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: I caught that? Oh in terms of non starters, Yeah, yeah, I. 353 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 7: Like to see that, albeit an unofficial, unofficial, unofficial, unofficial, Right, 354 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 7: you gotta keep saying that I'll be an official depth charge. 355 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 7: I do love seeing that they're closer to making official 356 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 7: what we've seen throughout the course of training camp, which 357 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 7: was Israel Mukalma was getting a ton of snaps at 358 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 7: the cornerback positions at nickel corner seen throughout his professional 359 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 7: career whenever he wasn't as good at safety as he 360 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 7: has been. We have been pleading for is he to 361 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 7: be moved back to corner, which is where he thrived 362 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 7: at South Carolina. 363 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you making that face? No reason we light 364 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: at corner. We are light at corner. He's helping man. Listen. 365 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: I saw all I needed to see. 366 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 8: I mean, if you all you really need him to 367 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 8: do in this defense is especially when you're playing zone, 368 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 8: because that's what that's why it's a benefit for him 369 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 8: in this defense to play corner because if you guys 370 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 8: go back and look at let's not even look at that. 371 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 8: Let's just keep it in the cowboys when you're as 372 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 8: long and lanky as he is. And if you're Coach Zimmer, 373 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 8: you're asking him if you're playing a cover too, or 374 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 8: you're playing a cover two trap, or you're playing any 375 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 8: kind of cloud three or anything like that where he's 376 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 8: responsible for an area. He's not responsible for a man, 377 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 8: but he's responsible just for a space. Go go gadget 378 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 8: is who you want out there, because all you're telling 379 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 8: him to do is, hey, go disrupt him off the 380 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 8: line of scrimmage. Right, I'm not worried about you getting 381 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 8: beat because we have help over the top. So go 382 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 8: be aggressive, disrupt him with your size, and then fall 383 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 8: back into your zone and let those guys go hunt up. 384 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: Front and do what you can do at that point. 385 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: And the ball, if the ball. 386 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 8: Comes to your area, go go power rangers, go up 387 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 8: there and get that thing and bring it back down. 388 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 8: So you're not asking him to have the same responsibilities 389 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 8: that a dan Quinn did because you're not asking to 390 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 8: play man. 391 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 7: Right, agree and is mkwamou is basically mister fantastic with 392 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 7: the Marvel reference. 393 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 8: There you. 394 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 7: Fantastic full reference. But the difference is in having him 395 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 7: in rotation with the guy like Jordan Lewis. Is that 396 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 7: like Isaiah saying is he is excels with his size 397 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 7: and his length as a zone cover guy, where Jordan 398 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 7: is excels as a man cover guy. So being able 399 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 7: to rotate those two guys in knowing that you have 400 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 7: an elite zone guy an elite cover guy only works 401 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 7: in the favor of Mike Zimmer. 402 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: I like it. 403 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 5: I've always wanted Isy to go back and go back 404 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: to corner. His tape at South Carolina was always impressive. 405 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 5: They I get it. I get the experiment, but it 406 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: was an experiment for a year moving back the corner, 407 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 5: see what happens, and then if. 408 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: His career takes off and takes off. 409 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 5: He's on the fifty three man roster at this point, 410 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 5: which is saying something. 411 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: He's tall. I don't think people understand how tall. 412 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 8: I mean. 413 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: They listen man six four yeah, and he might be 414 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: six half. He is an absolute dog. 415 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 7: He will get in the mind of the of the 416 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 7: route receiver or whoever the target might be. He's going 417 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 7: to talk his talk, and more often than not, he's 418 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 7: going to back it up. And you talk about physicality, 419 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 7: he's not just this long, lanky guy. He loves to 420 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 7: hit as much as he loves to cover. He loves 421 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 7: to make his presence felt. And then when you're getting up, 422 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 7: when you're looking up at him, he's talking to you 423 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 7: the whole time. So I said before roster cut downs 424 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 7: and got the receipt out there on Twitter, I say, 425 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 7: you have to find a way to keep Israel Mukuamu 426 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 7: on this roster. And they found a way. So kudos 427 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 7: to them and moved him back to corner, which is fantastic. 428 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 5: And again they've put him back on the fifty three 429 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 5: man active roster. 430 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: He should play game days. He should be conversation game days. 431 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 5: The one thing, too, is they just cut a fourth 432 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 5: round pick from from more recent draft, from a more 433 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 5: recent draft than what they had with. 434 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Eric sixth round Villiami Fojoko fourth round. They like is 435 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: he mcguamoo enough to keep him around? 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Good off, jeez, 500 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 2: this is ridiculous, guys, it's ridiculous. 501 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. Welcome. 502 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 5: By the way, if you have your phone out, you 503 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 5: can scan. 504 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 6: The QR code and get some quick quake arc qu 505 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 6: it's on that side. 506 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: It's over there, to isaiahs Tanback's head. Yeah, it's right 507 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: next to the other side on that side. 508 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 5: It's right there actually, So you didn't just start pointing 509 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 5: there every time. 510 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: All right? Thanks? 511 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 5: All right, Let's take a look at the Brown's offense. 512 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: And I'm not gonna lie to you, guys. They don't 513 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 5: scare me. They do not scare me. The Browns offensively 514 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: last year. Here's some of their totals. Uh total yardage 515 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 5: sixteenth in the league. Scoring, they were tied for tenth, 516 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 5: so not too bad, rushing twelfth, passing nineteenth. They were 517 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 5: the twenty ninth ranked team on third down, bottom five 518 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 5: in the league in terms of third down efficiency, and 519 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 5: they allowed the twenty. 520 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: First most I guess what would that be? 521 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 5: They were twenty first in sacks allowed, so they gave 522 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 5: up top would would that be twelve? Top twelve amount 523 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 5: of sacks in the league last year as an offensive line, 524 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 5: So when you look at the offense, I'm not necessarily worried. 525 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: Twenty eighth in yards per play. 526 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: If I had one thing that I think this Cowboys 527 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 5: defense would struggle against it be the run game. Well, 528 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: they don't have any Nick Chubb to hand the football 529 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 5: off to, do you feel like? 530 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: And That's where I'm headed. You think Jerome. 531 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 5: Ford is a capable ball carrier enough to challenge the Cowboys' 532 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 5: new look run defense. 533 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 6: Ball carrier is interesting because all purpose, he had eleven 534 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 6: hundred yards last season and nine point scores. I think 535 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 6: we get burnt all the time when it comes to 536 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 6: receiving running backs. It gives me a PTSD of Aaron Jones. 537 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 6: But I mean even back to darren Sprolls, you know 538 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 6: what I mean, Like, anytime there's a shifty running back 539 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 6: like that, they kill us. They kill us. So I'm 540 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 6: concerned about that. But also they also brought in Deontay 541 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 6: Foreman in uh in the backfield, six foot two hundred 542 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 6: and thirty five pound running back from Chicago who only 543 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 6: averaged four point two yards per carry last season. 544 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh guy, I wanted on the practice squad. 545 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 6: Exactly, big dude, big dude. So I think the easiest 546 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 6: fix here is just don't let them get into the 547 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 6: rin zone. You know what I mean, Just don't do it. 548 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: How's that sound? Easy fix? Right? Yeah? 549 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 7: Easy, easy peasy Litman squeezy, you don't have Nick Chubb. 550 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 7: So there's a massive drop off there. That being said, 551 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 7: as the Dallas Cowboys defense, you don't have the freaking 552 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 7: luxury to overlook say you don't have the luxury to 553 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 7: overlook a running back. You don't have the luxury to 554 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 7: look at Jerome Ford and say, oh well, he's not 555 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 7: Nick Chubb or Deontae Foreman say oh well he's you know, 556 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 7: he's not what he would You don't have the luxury. 557 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 7: You need to go out there and act as if 558 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 7: you're playing defense against Nick Chubb because until further notice, 559 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 7: there's a huge question mark slapped right in the middle 560 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 7: of your defensive line and even the linebackers until we 561 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 7: see these games wondering if Mike Zimmer's defense is going 562 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 7: to rapidly or rapidly both actually increase the amount ar 563 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 7: should said that decrease the production from opposing running defense. So, 564 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 7: Jerome Ford, this is a guy, like you said, eleven 565 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 7: hundred plus all purpose yards, nine all purpose touchdowns, eight 566 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 7: hundred and thirteen yards, and four rushing touchdowns on the ground, 567 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 7: so he can be effective. So don't go in there, 568 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 7: don't go in to Cleveland thinking, you know, you're not 569 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 7: seeing Nick Chubb, so you take a take a breath, 570 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 7: don't hold that breath, and go do your damn job, 571 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 7: because these two guys they can get the job done. 572 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 7: And you got to flip that time of posiession. You 573 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 7: cannot let Cleveland on the time of possession, especially in 574 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 7: their stadium. That doesn't bote well when you also have 575 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 7: to con in with the receivers. 576 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: I call it taking the air out of the football. Yeah, 577 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you just you don't. You don't. It's almost 578 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: like trying to just play keep away. You don't want to. 579 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: You want to, don't want to let. 580 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 7: The other team play the game that they love, especially 581 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 7: the number one offense in the league. 582 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and they're gonna do everything they can. 583 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 5: They don't care about that. I mentioned twenty ninth in 584 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 5: yards per play or twenty eighth in yards per play 585 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 5: last year. 586 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: They could not care less. 587 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 5: They will be okay with two and a half yards, 588 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 5: three yards, and then they get a first down two 589 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 5: and a half three yards, Then they get a second 590 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 5: first down right, and then they keep going down the field. 591 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: Te position is marching offender exactly. It's another defender and 592 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: it could play a factor. 593 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 5: They do have some weaponry on the outside, but I 594 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 5: mentioned Amari Cooper. They traded for Jerry Judy, which I 595 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: think is a significant underrated move this offseason across the 596 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 5: AFC in general, not just the Cowboys or not just 597 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 5: the Browns. 598 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, I like what I'm bliged j Moore can do. 599 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean weaponry on the outside, running game as 600 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 5: a whole, Isaiah when you look at this team from 601 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 5: a film standpoint, And by the way, new offensive coordinator 602 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 5: Ken Dorsey is now the OC with Cleveland. Which side 603 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 5: of it worries you more? The Russian game or the 604 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 5: passing game? 605 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: Russian game? Yeah, still rushing game, I don't And. 606 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 6: Is that more for the Cowboys? 607 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: Are more for what. 608 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 8: They Why would you not attack the Cowboys ability to 609 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 8: defend the run until further notice, you're one of as Cleveland. Okay, 610 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 8: we're not obviously new OC, New Year all that jazz. 611 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 8: Historically speaking, when you play the Cleveland Browns, you know 612 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 8: that you have to be able to defend against what 613 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 8: the run. The run it was, but I think it's yes, 614 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 8: and Nick Chubb is a very talented running back, but 615 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 8: I think this game is less about the running back 616 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 8: and more about the offensive line. The offensive line of Cleveland, 617 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 8: to me, is a solid unit. Those guys work really 618 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 8: well together. They move all the time in terms of 619 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 8: pulling guards, pulling tackles. You just if you gonna say this, 620 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 8: the Alas Cowboys feature of the defense is what position linebackers? Right, 621 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 8: that's feature right now, feature position. Yes, the feature position 622 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 8: is linebacker. 623 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that's vast different. 624 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 8: Yeah in January, right, it tast historically obviously we have 625 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 8: to we have to wait and see, right, But historically 626 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 8: the Cleveland Browns have done a lot of counters, a 627 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 8: lot of counters. For those that don't understand your misdirection counters. Okay, 628 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 8: that means pulling guards. 629 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: You're going like. 630 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 8: You're handing the ball off one way, you let the 631 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 8: guard go to the opposite direction. You can hand the ball 632 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 8: off to running back going right behind that big man. 633 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 8: And if your linebackers are not aggressive and decisive, there 634 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 8: will be a three hundred plus pound man who loves 635 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 8: to put guys into the ground and eat pancakes. He 636 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 8: will be on your two hundred and thirty pounds linebacker 637 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 8: to fifteen twenty with luifowl right in a heartbeat. So 638 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 8: these linebackers have to shoot the gaps. Trust their eyes right, 639 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 8: So Kendricks luifoul all these guys you have, when you 640 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 8: see it, you see a whole go Oh. The other 641 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 8: person in this defense that has to win every single 642 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 8: time is the one technique. 643 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: Yep. 644 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 8: If the one technique does not control the center, you're 645 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 8: in trouble. If you don't win that matchup, you're in trouble. 646 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 8: If you get moved the one direction and you allow 647 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 8: for him to get his hip turned and get you 648 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 8: shifted one direction, you were opening up the red sea. 649 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 8: And now you're putting so much pressure on your linebackers. 650 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 8: But if you can get even a stalemate at that 651 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 8: position and don't allow that center to be able to 652 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 8: work up to the next level, and you when that guard, 653 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 8: right guard or left guard decides to vacate their space 654 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 8: and that linebacker shoots the hole, you can get these 655 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 8: guys down in the backfield. Reason being, if you don't 656 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 8: do that, then yeah, it's not Chubb in the backfield, 657 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 8: but it is a forward in the backfield, and we 658 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 8: know that forwards are built for it tough. 659 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: If these guys and these guys, this. 660 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 8: Dude run he was clocked at twenty one miles pour 661 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 8: last year. 662 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: So that's like, Isaiah, standbackfast. No, I'm twenty two. 663 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 8: But but if you on but if you allow for 664 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 8: these guards again, understand this conceptually, guard leaves pools gets 665 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 8: up to the second level. If your linebackers don't shoot 666 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 8: the gap and stop this thing in the backfield, if 667 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 8: your one technique doesn't push the guy back or still 668 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 8: make the center, then all of a sudden, he's getting 669 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 8: out to the edge. That's running back and there referring 670 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 8: to and you have a running back who runs twenty 671 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 8: one miles per hour, he gets out on the edge. 672 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: Now you're in trouble. 673 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 8: Now you're asking Trayvon to go up and come up 674 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 8: and make big hits. Now you're asking your defensive backs 675 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 8: to come up there and make plays on guys that 676 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 8: they really shouldn't have to be worried about. 677 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: But you know what that does. 678 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 7: Then that sets up the play action deepot, that's what 679 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 7: it does, because now your corner has to worry about 680 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 7: playing with his eyes in the backfield. 681 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: And that's a recipe for disaster. 682 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 7: And Isaiah makes all the great points, and I want 683 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 7: to point at something that Mary s Leafoul told us 684 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 7: after Monday's practice that stuck out to me. I asked 685 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 7: him specifically, I said, what is Mike Zimmer's message to 686 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 7: the rookie linebackers going into their first game? 687 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: Overshown? 688 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 7: And because overshown is the fact over rookie and Lea 689 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 7: foul as well, and Lea Foule's quote was he told 690 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 7: us to just cut it loose and let me do 691 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 7: the thinking. 692 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: End quote. 693 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 7: So to Isaiah's point that if that works out as 694 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 7: we hope it does, that is the instinctual play of 695 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 7: the linebackers, just telling them, hey, this is your assignment. 696 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: Now go play football and don't overthink it. But this 697 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: is going to be. 698 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 7: A massive test for Mazzi Smith and the rebuilt interior 699 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 7: defensive line. 700 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: So even even if you're. 701 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 7: The jury is out and jury is out on Mazzi 702 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 7: Smith right now until further notice. But as the jury 703 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 7: is out on Mazzi Smith, it's going to be a 704 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 7: test for Mazi and lin Vall, the new dedition, Linval 705 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 7: Joseph and oh so we know Os is gonna cook. 706 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 7: Os is gonna cook. No question marks on Oaks side. 707 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 7: Jordan Phillips, he flashed early in preseason, as early as 708 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 7: his first preseason game with no practice. 709 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: Right. 710 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 7: So Jordan Phillips olso Diggi zuwell, who we know is 711 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 7: gonna cook Mazi and then the newest edition Linval Joseph. 712 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 7: Those four guys up front in those trenches, if they 713 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 7: can wall that off, force the runs to the outside 714 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 7: and the linebackers are in fact being cut loose and 715 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 7: playing instinctual for the ball. Now you're going to force 716 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 7: not only Deshaun Watson into abandoning the run. Now you're 717 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 7: going to force them, the Cleveland Browns into playing your game. 718 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: You want them to drop back forty times and throw 719 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: the ball. That's what you want. 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Isaiah stand back, 787 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 5: Josh Rodriguez, Patrick No C Walker, Chrispiam in the back. 788 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeomans. 789 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 5: I tease that going into the break. Ken Dorsey a 790 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 5: new offensive coordinator for the Browns this season. He was 791 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 5: the Bills offensive coordinator from twenty twenty two to twenty 792 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 5: twenty three, and previous to that, from twenty thirteen to 793 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, he was the quarterback coach for Cam Newton 794 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 5: in Carolina. Through his time in both of those places, 795 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 5: Allen led the NFL with two hundred and three offensive 796 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 5: touchdowns since twenty nineteen. Newton had over one hundred and 797 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 5: fifty offensive touchdowns in that same span. Twenty thirteen to 798 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, which was fourth in the NFL, and of 799 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 5: course he won his MVP award in twenty fifteen, So 800 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 5: right now one of the best quarterbacks in the league 801 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 5: influenced by Ken Dorsey back then an MVP of top 802 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 5: notch player coached up by Ken Dorsey. 803 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was one of the worst quarterbacks. 804 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 5: In football last year and it's statistically proven since twenty 805 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 5: twenty two. Forty first out of quarterbacks, forty first in 806 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 5: completion percentage, thirty eighth in passing guards per game, thirty 807 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 5: sixth in passing attempts. His touchdown the interception ratio was 808 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 5: fourteen to nine. 809 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: It was not good. Oh, brother, brother guy thinks. 810 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 5: But can can Ken Dorsey change that? 811 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: Isaiah? 812 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 5: So from your experience from a quarterback coach, Oh see, 813 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 5: whatever it may be, No, you cannot fix it. 814 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: No, not him. Why is that he lost his velocity? 815 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 8: Deshaun Watson does not no longer from what I've seen 816 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 8: on film, no longer possesses the ability to put any 817 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 8: zip on the ball. The interceptions that he had last 818 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 8: year were because not only just bad decisions, but the 819 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 8: ball wasn't going to get there, just flat out now. 820 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 7: Were you seeing that before or during his battle with 821 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 7: the shoulder issue that eventually landed him out. Do you 822 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 7: think that's a remnant of what he was dealing with 823 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 7: last year? And maybe I could come back this year. 824 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. 825 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 8: We'll see, we'll see, but from what I've seen, they 826 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 8: just not there, you know what I mean. And it 827 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 8: might be one of the reasons why Mary Cooper wanted 828 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 8: to get out of there. 829 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 5: While they were talking trade with possible San Francisco, and. 830 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: When Brandon you had an opportunity to leave, he was like, 831 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: not there. Yeah, going right. So I mean there's there's reasons. 832 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 8: You know, there's underlying factors as to why guys don't 833 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 8: want to go places, and you know, that seemed to 834 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 8: be one as I watched the film. 835 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: So it's just I don't think. 836 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 8: That they're going to be I think they're going to 837 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 8: attempt to put the ball down the field. I think 838 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 8: he's definitely Condors is definitely going to try to do 839 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 8: have the same success that he's had in the past, because. 840 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: I hope they do safety. But in order in order to. 841 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 8: Do that right, in order to do that, he's going 842 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 8: to pay homage to what the Browns have been. He's 843 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 8: going to do that, right, Let's hand the ball off, 844 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 8: Let's run the rock. That's you know what, this is what, 845 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 8: this is what you guys, your your identity has been 846 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 8: for years. Let's continue to do that. But if Dallas 847 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 8: can show some resilience there. It's kind of like the 848 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 8: old killing Moore. M right, killing Moore is like, well, 849 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 8: run the ball. I really don't want to. 850 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: He even said, oh it's not ready, Oh it's not working. Great. 851 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: Just throw the ball forty five fifty times a game. 852 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 8: Fantastic, And I hope that mister Dorsey decides to do that. 853 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 8: But Dallas has to make him do that. So I say, 854 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 8: take the run away, get him to do what he 855 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 8: wants to do anyway, which is throw the ball around, 856 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 8: and then make him pay for it because their quarterback 857 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 8: cannot pass the ball the way he wants the way 858 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 8: he wants. 859 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 6: To did to answer your question, I don't know that. 860 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 6: I mean there's a lot of health issues when it 861 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 6: comes to Shaun Watson. He hasn't had a healthy season 862 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 6: sure so far with the Browns personal issues. Also aside 863 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 6: that that was a he's a meme. 864 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: Now you know what? 865 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 6: I mean, I think that that's kind of created the 866 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 6: narrative that he's like not as good as he was 867 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 6: with the Texans, which is understandable. But we kind of 868 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 6: saw a glimpse of postseason. 869 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: But Isaiah's off camera, it's okay. 870 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 6: Fair enough, fair enough. We saw a glimpse of twenty 871 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 6: twenty postseason Deshaun Watson last year in the comeback against 872 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 6: the Ravens. 873 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: I feel like we saw that. 874 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 6: I think it was the fourth quarter, or maybe it 875 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 6: was that second half totally where he had fourteen He 876 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 6: went fourteen for fourteen, came back and beat the Ravens 877 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 6: last year. That to me was an indication where he's 878 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 6: probably not done being Deshaun Watson. But I think, like 879 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 6: you said, does it carry over to an entire season. 880 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 6: Probably not. But Ken Dorsey, I don't know if you mentioned, 881 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 6: but he was fired last season. 882 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: For a five ten Yeah. 883 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, with the Bills, so. 884 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 5: They were still eighth in like yards per game and 885 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 5: yards per play, like they were still like a decent 886 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 5: level offense. When he got fired last year, it was 887 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 5: kind of a weird firing. 888 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 8: Kevin Morgan let go here or not re signed and 889 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 8: he had at the top of the league top. 890 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. 891 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of times, it's fit more than anything. 892 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, points per game. 893 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 5: From weeks one to ten and twenty twenty three they 894 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 5: were eighth, the Bills were, So it's. 895 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 6: Like, who knows, who knows. I think it's kind of 896 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 6: up in the air with Watson how he handles it 897 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 6: going forward. You know, it's probably a mental game at 898 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 6: this point. But again, if he's not throwing any zip 899 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 6: on the ball, then that's also physical as well. 900 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: For me, it's a couple of things. 901 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 7: Number One, I look at it as the same way 902 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 7: I look at the run attack or the run defense. 903 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have. 904 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 7: The luxury of assuming that Deshaun Watson is not peak 905 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 7: Houston Texans. Deshaun Watson, you don't have the luxury. Jordan 906 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 7: Love walked in and yeah did Right, don't even have 907 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 7: to relive it because you know you were there. So 908 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 7: this is the first game after that game. You need 909 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 7: to go in there. You need to show Deshaun Watson 910 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 7: that you know what time it is. 911 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: Right. But I also add that I kind of touched 912 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 1: on it. Deshaun Watson. 913 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 7: He ended up on IR last year because of the 914 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 7: shoulder issue, right, so this is his first game back, 915 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 7: there might be some rust. Okay, So yes, the Cowboys 916 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 7: have youth on their defense, linebackers, secondary, But Deshaun Watson. 917 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: He's going to need to get thumped. 918 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 7: He's going to need to, you know, make a couple 919 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 7: of completions before his confidence gets where it needs to 920 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 7: get preaches and reps right. You need to make sure 921 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 7: that his first three or four attempts are incomplete, which 922 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 7: then gets him overthinking and he's trying to overprocess. And 923 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 7: now going against Mike Zimmer, a cerebral matchup. Now that 924 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 7: tends to go to Mike Zimmer, but there is something 925 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 7: about his mobility, Deshaun Watson that I wanted to point 926 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 7: out because obviously, when you have a mobile quarterback, if 927 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 7: you don't contain and you allow them to get out, 928 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 7: now you extend coverage windows. And now your secondary that 929 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 7: you're so confident in now has to cover longer. And 930 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,959 Speaker 7: you're covering longer against Samari Cooper, arguably still your best 931 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 7: route runner in the league, Jerry Judy, you're covering against 932 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 7: Elijah More for a longer periods of time. Now the 933 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 7: stale starts to slide back towards Cleveland as far as 934 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 7: offensive production is concerned. But I asked both leave Foul 935 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 7: and Overshown specifically, how are they looking to handle the 936 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 7: mobility of Deshaun Watson. I'll give you a quick answer 937 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 7: for both of them. Live Foule said, It's always a 938 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 7: challenge because there are threat to you in so many ways. 939 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 7: We were just preparing for that and keeping that in 940 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 7: mind this week. But it's what Overshown said that really 941 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 7: stood out to me. He said, We've definitely got some 942 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 7: stuff cooked up for those situations. And that's one of 943 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 7: my specialties is getting after quarterbacks who like to leave 944 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 7: the pocket. I'm looking forward to that. To Marveon, Overshown 945 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 7: wants smoke. Okay, yes, and when you go back, and 946 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 7: I know we're talking college tape versus NFL tape, but 947 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 7: if you get a situation where there's not that three 948 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 7: hundred and fifteen guy, a pound guy who can get 949 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 7: a hand on to Marrio on Overshown, if Demo sees 950 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 7: Watson exiting that pocket, his lights are gonna come on. 951 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: He wants that. 952 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 7: And you have the speed of Overshown, you have the 953 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,280 Speaker 7: speed of Leophile, you even have the speed of Eric Kendricks. 954 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 7: I remember one particular play. This was the scrimmage against 955 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 7: the Los Angeles Perhabs. I know exactly where Eric Hendricks 956 00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 7: absolutely teleported from the mic to that edge. 957 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: And so you have like a knife through. 958 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 7: You have so much speed at the linebacker position. That 959 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 7: will help you contain a mobile quarterback like Deshaun Watson. 960 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 7: Now you keep him in the pocket. And the more 961 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 7: you keep him in the pocket, and if you can 962 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 7: nullify that run game DeMarcus Lawrence, Michael Parsons, they're coming, 963 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 7: Marshaw Kneeland, hopefully he gets involved in that as well. 964 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,959 Speaker 1: That's what you want to see. 965 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 7: And those coverage windows get you know, made smaller and 966 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 7: smaller Trevon Dick. That helps a guy like Treyvon Diggs 967 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 7: who needs to get back in the groove of things. 968 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 7: That helps a rookie like Kayln Carson. That helps your 969 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 7: you know, your young secondary. So that's the goal, shutting 970 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 7: down the run, and that includes shutting down the run 971 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 7: of a mobile quarterback in Deshaun Watson. Because you don't 972 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 7: want watching to build any confidence. Don't let them build 973 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 7: any confidence. 974 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 5: Correct And with all of this being said, all of 975 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 5: this being set up, which unit for the Cowboys defense, 976 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 5: Which position group is going to be tested the most 977 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 5: come someday, It's linebackers. 978 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: It's got to be. It's still linebackers. 979 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 8: What do you think I'm gonna say the I'm say 980 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 8: defensive line as a whole, but I'm gonna say specifically 981 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 8: defensive ends because they're gonna. 982 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: Be set the edge content Yeah, yeah, that's big at 983 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 1: the edge. 984 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 7: They don't set the edge, then it's on your linebackers. 985 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 986 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 5: Well, and Jerome Ford can he can run outside the tackles, 987 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 5: so you can go sidelines. So you have not only 988 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 5: the mobility of Deshaun Watson, but you've got Jerome Ford. 989 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 1: You got to worry about in that case, you agree 990 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: with one of the two, I. 991 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 6: Mean both, I mean yeah, I mean it's gonna be 992 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 6: a tough, tough battle either way. 993 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: It will be. 994 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 5: And and there are parts to this offense that people 995 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 5: don't know yet, elements of it because it's a new 996 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 5: offensive coordinator. It's not gonna be the same as the 997 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 5: rankings that I gave at the end of last year. 998 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 5: They're trying to do everything. 999 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: They can to turn those numbers in the complete ops. 1000 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 7: But you know that also applies to the Cowboys defense. 1001 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 7: There are elements of this defense true that Browns don't 1002 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 7: know and haven't seen. They don't know what le can do, 1003 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 7: what Overshown can do, or Kailing Corson can do. They 1004 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 7: don't know quite yet. It would want a fully unleashed one. 1005 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 7: Yea Thomas looks like as or Marquis bell as a 1006 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 7: safety looks like. 1007 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 1: So there there are some things that Brown defense. Yeah, yeah, Dallas, 1008 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: Dallas has I say that to say it works both ways? 1009 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: You know who else has a fast defense? The Cleveland 1010 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: Browns do? They do? They've got some speed. Ja okay 1011 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: on that defense. 1012 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 5: J okay that Miles Garrett cat down at and T 1013 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 5: Stadium one time in his life. 1014 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1015 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 5: We're gonna talk Cowboys offensive preview tomorrow about how they're 1016 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 5: gonna try and slow down these guys and who is 1017 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 5: that surprise starter on the offensive side of the ball 1018 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 5: in the unofficial first s depth chart of the year. 1019 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 5: More to come tomorrow nine am Central Time on Dallas 1020 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 5: Cowboys dot Com for Chris. 1021 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: Me Isaiah stand Back, Josh Rodriguez. 1022 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 5: Patrick nocy Walker, I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long from 1023 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 5: talking Cowboys. 1024 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow. 1025 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 2: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 1026 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.