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Speaker 1: That went nice, y'all. I'm sorry, I'm not man.

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Speaker 3: We got seven comments. Okay, Ip, you're rote the first two. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder how this works for y'all, but

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Speaker 2: Y'all don't finish this in the episode. You just send

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because sometimes I think people listen in like real

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Speaker 2: Here says I thought a lot about what the right

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Speaker 2: As a child, I thought someone who sits at breakfast

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Speaker 2: Your motivation under the SSRII it was before your mood,

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Speaker 2: Right, Even he says to piggyback on what you said

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Speaker 2: It referenced to this person writing then to tell you

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Speaker 2: I've been listening to shows for years now, and I've

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Speaker 2: and that's why the show is so good, and neither

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Speaker 2: The only thing Roy continues to be wrong about is

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Speaker 2: the misinformation spreads about Arby's. They have the meats, well, honestly, now,

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Speaker 2: what's honestly interesting about that? Because so many of y'all

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Speaker 2: never said that Arby's was nasty or the food don't

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Speaker 2: I just think it's you know, drug laundering, the operation,

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Speaker 2: it's true, so you can enjoy them. What are they

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what they do. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: But they continue to stand business.

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Speaker 2: They are buying other businesses that they have more people

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Speaker 3: What it is, a criminal organization.

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Speaker 2: Rner Ralphael says, I second everything you said on clarifying

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Speaker 2: I'll stay with you one hundred percent until then.

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Speaker 3: I can't support a money launder in business.

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Speaker 2: Roning Rafael said, shout out to the best podcast and

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Speaker 2: Shoe Boody says emotional support podcast the Politics to It

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Speaker 2: Get Mad segment works so much because you really do

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Speaker 2: No one's gonna go split slit the throat, the throats

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the people with the guns are not the

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Speaker 2: it's always been a stupid, to me, stupid fantasy, and

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Speaker 3: Talking about what is boring. But but what works right.

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Speaker 1: And it's also the thing is, particularly once you get

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Speaker 2: Some opinions, some opinions aren't sexy as others our opinions

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Speaker 2: Why can't we get behind this message? But if we were,

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Speaker 3: But they don't.

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Speaker 2: But they don't want the unsexy like do you go

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Speaker 3: Like what hey, when's the last time you checked out

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Speaker 2: But saying like I can't wait for the people to

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Speaker 2: sure which people?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Not you? When people say that, they always imagine it

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Speaker 2: Even when it's like we're gonna people are gonna get

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Speaker 3: Gun permit, you can get in the streets. You're not

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Speaker 2: But even when it's somebody else, they imagine that somebody

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Speaker 3: It's not y'all. I'm with Karen.

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Speaker 2: I'm never going to be not be mad that they

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Speaker 2: Go ask Cloney for that coin. Since his little comments

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Speaker 2: already when you're not. But you're just gonna do whatever

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Speaker 2: I think what has been interesting and I and I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't agree with it, but a great ad. Show

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Speaker 2: We're not keeping track of this, we have no way

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Speaker 2: I've seen great ads on both sides, but no one

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Speaker 2: work backwards. Whoever one must have had the best ads.

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Speaker 2: I think that idea should die. I don't think it's true.

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Speaker 3: There is something there.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that an ad does it now,

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Speaker 3: things really work? But yeah, she.

438
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Speaker 2: Also says I'm gonna start checking out those animes. I'm

439
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Speaker 2: never watched anime, girl, but I'm interested based on the

440
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Speaker 2: comments here. Not sure if you saw this, but my

441
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: daughter just got into K pop Demon Hunters on Netflix,

442
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Speaker 2: and I gotta admit it, slaps. I'm rocking out to

443
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: soda pop now. This was my gateway in the K pop.

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Speaker 1: I guess I started that one. It's actually it actually

445
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Speaker 1: looks really really fun. It's bright, it's colorful. If you

446
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Speaker 1: love K pop, you would actually really enjoy this. Like

447
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: I said, I haven't got that deep into it, but

448
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Speaker 1: it was like no one of them two on Netflix.

449
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: I turn on, I mean on, I won't say yeah

450
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Speaker 1: it was Netflix if I'm not mistaken, And it was

451
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Speaker 1: just like everywhere, and I kept saying, oh, let me

452
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Speaker 1: check this out. So that right there is good the

453
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: thing about anime. Whatever you like in like real life,

454
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: it's anime on it. So just kind of you're not

455
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Speaker 1: just funny. If you want to get introduced, just be

456
00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: like Mystery Crimes anime, they'll come up like whatever you like,

457
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: it's the animation on it.

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Speaker 3: All right.

459
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: And then we got YouTube comments, which I didn't read

460
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: any of yet, so I'm just sawing that somebody had

461
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 2: or comment that got three replies. I'm like, oh damn

462
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: dark namda emojis. Then another excellent feedback show. Thanks, thank you, buddy, Joseph,

463
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: says Rod. I can certainly say that it was gender

464
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: sensitivity and ego for me. Also, so Joseph must have

465
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Speaker 2: been the person that wrote in about like, why are

466
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Speaker 2: you correcting, Karen.

467
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: I'm a fairly new listener.

468
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 2: I can admit that I did see you all through

469
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: the lens of my own trauma and distrust.

470
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 3: At first.

471
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Speaker 2: The person who recommended y'all to me reassured me, and

472
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: I continue to watch, so I now know that you

473
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: both love and like each other and yourselves enough to

474
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Speaker 2: never diminish anyone, nor allow anyone to diminish you. I

475
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: also think people sometimes attach our value of being right,

476
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Speaker 2: because that is how we earn various rewards throughout life.

477
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: So when we perceive someone's points being questioned or challenge,

478
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Speaker 2: sometimes we think the challenger is coming for their value.

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Speaker 3: Shit, that's deep, that's deep, and that is true.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, like and and the thing is it's

481
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: human nature to get want those rewards, a good girl,

482
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: good boy type of thing. To feel like you're fighting

483
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Speaker 1: on somebody else behalf, you know, because some people they're fighters.

484
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Speaker 1: Like this is what I do. If I see something

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Speaker 1: that I think this is wrong, I feel like I

486
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: need to fight for this person, kind of regardless if

487
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Speaker 1: they ask for me to fall on their behalf or not.

488
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: So baby like, I get that. And also shout out

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Speaker 1: to you, I appreciate you for writing back in because

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Speaker 1: a lot of times people leave comments like this and

491
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Speaker 1: we don't ever hear from them again. So I appreciate

492
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: you writing back in and kind of you know, explaining

493
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: yourself because you know, we've been doing this for a

494
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: long time, and everybody's human beings, so we understand that.

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Speaker 1: You know, our relationship is very different, and you know

496
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: we are very we're very loving couple and things like that.

497
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Speaker 1: And you know a lot of people when they see

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Speaker 1: certain things, particularly between men and women and interactions, like

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Speaker 1: you say, people's past traumas, be it their family members,

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Speaker 1: be it something they personally went through or whatever. You know,

501
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: these things can jump up out of you. So I bet, baby,

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00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: I get it. It it It's a natural response.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And also, like, I love what you said about the

505
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: the value system of it because I I think about

506
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: this a lot, how especially in America, but probably it's

507
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: probably everywhere. But intelligence is treated with the scarcity mindset,

508
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: meaning like there they can't we we have to have

509
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: a hierarchy and an order of intelligence, meaning I can't

510
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: have a conversation with you where we both walk away

511
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: and go, well, they made good points. I made good points,

512
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: but we just arrived at different inclusion.

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00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 3: No, I have to beat you.

514
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta have to win.

515
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to win.

516
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: You have to Someone has to acknowledge they lost this

517
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: exchange somehow. There can't be more than one type of

518
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: intelligence in the conversation. So if you're speaking from a

519
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: quote unquote logical place of intelligence and someone else is

520
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: speaking from an emotional place of intelligence, both those can't

521
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: exist in the same conversations like no, no, no, no, one.

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Speaker 3: Of these has to have a hierarchy over the other.

523
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: That kind of thing.

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00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: And you know, I always think about this thing I

525
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: wrote for Game Theory when I was applying for that job,

526
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: and I wrote about you know, it was about Kyrie Irvan,

527
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: but the.

528
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Speaker 3: Rich.

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Speaker 2: The final point of it was sometimes we're like, this

530
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: person is the smartest person in the classroom because they

531
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Speaker 2: got the highest grade on the SAT or whatever, and

532
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: we go that person is smart, and we all agree

533
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Speaker 2: they're smart. But then there's like some shit where like

534
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 2: everybody's kind of smart. So like when you cross the street,

535
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: you should look both ways before crossing, Yes, you should.

536
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 2: Now that's not a only the smartest person will do that.

537
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: Everyone should do that, and it is smart. The few

538
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: people who don't do it we're looking at like, damn,

539
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: that's dangerous, that was risky, that was dumb.

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Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is like, if you.

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Speaker 2: Don't approach uh intelligence with a scarcity mindset, there's no

542
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: need to like beat people. We all hope we all

543
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: look both ways before across the street when we get

544
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: on these microphones, we're all hoping that we're making good

545
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: points that are intelligent that we will be able to

546
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: convey to an audience that isn't necessarily here with us.

547
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: So we're trying to be explaining and uh, you know,

548
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: and concise, but also like thorough and so yeah, sometimes

549
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: it helps when you have a co host who can.

550
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 3: Stand in for the audience and be like, hey, what

551
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: do you mean?

552
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: Because if I'm confused, Karen's confused, If Karen's confused, I'm confused,

553
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: like it's the audience is confused, like it's we don't

554
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: not everything.

555
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of conversations we.

556
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: Could have just never tip y'all in on, and it

557
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: would just sound like me and Karen having a husband

558
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: wife conversation. Y'all be like, I don't even know what

559
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: the fuck they were talking about. But you know that's

560
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: not the show. We have to convey some things to

561
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: the audience.

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00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also it's one of those things where we

563
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: live in a society where truth be so particularly with

564
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: social media and a lot of these I get it, y'all,

565
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: but a lot of these I'm never wrong, I never forgive.

566
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm petty type of people that shit has rolled over

567
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: into other genres. And so when you have two people

568
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: that are talking to each other. I know, I don't

569
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: know everything. I know, I'm not the smartest person in

570
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: the room. I will admit that I'm wrong. But a

571
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: lot of people in those groups those things that are

572
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: opposite of what those things stand for. And so when

573
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: people look at us, they're bringing a lot of this

574
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: trauma and drama and shit to us. Enable us to

575
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: reflect those values back out, and then I think that

576
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with us when we don't.

577
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And one thing I've learned is how to put

578
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: up boundaries around that. You know, I'm not responsible for

579
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: the trauma that other people have gone through. I'm not

580
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: responsible to navigate my world based on your trauma. I

581
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: don't even know what yours is. I don't know what

582
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: the impact has been in your life, right, I'm just

583
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: here to try to be respectful in the community, okase

584
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: as clearly as possible. If you can't take it, that's fine,

585
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: go find something else. You know that, that's fine.

586
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I think, particularly with me and the

587
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: thing is because like you say, men and women, husbands,

588
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: why people hear certain things? I interrupt you way more

589
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: and truthfully, if people listen to the show, not I

590
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: interrupt you way more than you interrupted me. I ask

591
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: you to explain shit way more than you ask me

592
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: to explain shit, because a lot of times you're talking,

593
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be funny. You use big

594
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: words sometimes and sometimes I don't really understand, So I'll

595
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: be like, Hey, what does that word mean? So I

596
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: can get the context of what you're explaining, because I

597
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: know if I'm asking, somebody else would like to know

598
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: it too, because sometimes they're just maybe maybe they just

599
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: might be words foreign to me because we have all

600
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: have had life experiences and all have had different things,

601
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: and so you know, I am the type of person

602
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: be kind of back to child because the way I

603
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: grew up, I want you to explain to me. So

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00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: if something happened, we turn these mics off, I want

605
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: to be able to re urgitated again and be able

606
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: to have and be able to know that I truly

607
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: understood what you meant, versus like a lot of people

608
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Speaker 1: uh huh uh huh uh huh uh uh huh uh

609
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: huh and then don't know what the fuck you told them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then like and there's nothing that can be

611
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: done about it, really, because like you know, there's times

612
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: when you're explaining stuff and people are on YouTube looking

613
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: at my face and and and like projecting onto me

614
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: like oh, he wants her to shut up, he hates

615
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: when she talks. I'm like that, that's something in you

616
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: missing because it's not me and listening. Yeah, this isn't like,

617
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: this isn't a TV show. We haven't been coached by actors.

618
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Speaker 3: It's not a multi camera.

619
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Speaker 1: Set up where no training. I'm sorry, y'all.

620
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what y'all are seeing is me listening. You know,

621
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Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be looking at the camera like yes, interesting, wow, yes,

622
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: having the coaching class. And meanwhile I'm producing the show

623
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Speaker 2: as well. We don't have a producer. So I'm reading

624
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: the next comment, I'm looking at the next segment, I'm

625
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: looking at the time, I'm checking the recording.

626
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 3: Like a lot is happening.

627
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: So Kim Doc says, reply to this breaking with you

628
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: breathing Oh, because they said everybody breathe with me.

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Speaker 3: Lol.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Joseph. Like Karen said, it was very

631
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: nice of you to write back in.

632
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: Most people.

633
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: Either don't write back in at all, or you know,

634
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: some of them A lot of times, well not a

635
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: lot of times, but some of them even get offended

636
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: and shit, and it's like, yeah, especially if I didn't

637
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: say or do anything to offend you. In my opinion,

638
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: Kim Doc says, breathing with you, Rod and Karen, I

639
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: actually love when they get to explain the flesh out

640
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: things when I also have questions in my mind listening

641
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: to listening to them for all these years, I don't

642
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: have to wonder about the heart and passion they have.

643
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: It's a shared and Kendred bond that I think the

644
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: Blackout audience and family share. And that's even when we

645
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: might disagree. Yeah, because it's not disagreeing. Isn't the problem

646
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: just to be disrespected?

647
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: Really?

648
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: And of course, you know, listening is important because and

649
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: the reason I think listen is important is because a

650
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: lot of times it's not even when people disagree, it's

651
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: that they misunderstood. And you know, and you know what

652
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: helps people not misunderstand clarification. Yes, And so if you

653
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: don't see clarification as an attack, it actually saves time.

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Speaker 2: I would say the majority of time when people ask

655
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Speaker 2: about some sort of clarification or something in the show.

656
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 2: I'll even say it in real time where I'm like,

657
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: I want this clarified so we don't get somebody misunderstanding later.

658
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: I may even understand it right now, but I'm like,

659
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: I know a motherfucker later because we've always had it.

660
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: People are listening on their phones, they're driving their work,

661
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: and they're barely paying attention. Then they write in going

662
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: off and it's like that didn't happen. Bella Bell Q

663
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Speaker 2: five T responded, I get that you like the show,

664
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Speaker 2: but I don't get how you all don't see that

665
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: Rod goes off on everyone who writes in that shares

666
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: any critique of him or this show, even if it's

667
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: fair to dedicate a weekly show to feedback just to.

668
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: Call people motherfuckers or yell for however long.

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Speaker 1: Really see prime example, prime example, prime example.

670
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: Shit it does not happen. Shit that did not happen.

671
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Speaker 3: Right hoping to.

672
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Speaker 2: Get me to go off or get some type of

673
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: emotional response, then maybe pick through feedback and only share

674
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: those that favor like he does the reviews. Once again,

675
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: I've read every comment, including this comment. Now that being said,

676
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: I do not mind being like, oh the high this

677
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: user from channel don't read this review because I'm not

678
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: gonna I'm this is not the whipping post. Nope, I

679
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: will never be on here like getting disrespected and creating

680
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: all content. All replies the same. Some replies are literally

681
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: just low quality.

682
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: Yes they are.

683
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: They just want to get a response.

684
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: This person right here making up shit of you know,

685
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: people that don't even listen to this show, racist people,

686
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: people that disrespect caring to hope to get a rise

687
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: out of me. Yes, that kind of stuff. We've been

688
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: doing this sixteen years, homie. That kind of stuff happens

689
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: over the years, and so we've adjusted our feedback.

690
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: Now.

691
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: What people aren't used to is that y'all listen to

692
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: mostly low quality shows who are just happy to have

693
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: some response, some something to go off on. We don't

694
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: actually need anybody to say anything negative for us to.

695
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Speaker 3: Have a good show.

696
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Agreed.

697
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: We make a living off of this and we're gonna

698
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 3: be just fine.

699
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: So if the critique is fair, if it is like

700
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: as you implied, that, it could be fine. But if

701
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: it's just lying and like everyone who has a critique

702
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: Roders called the motherfucker, then I know that you're not

703
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: a righteous person and that you're just like a person

704
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: that want to be hidden from the channel. So you

705
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: get to continue to say stuff. No one's gonna ever

706
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: see it again. But like, congrats and shout out to

707
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: Joseph who did reply to this. We can agree to

708
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: disagree because you're right. I don't see that he goes

709
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: off on everyone who has a critique. I also don't

710
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: see that he picks through the comments. Seem like he

711
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: reads all of them. Thank you, Joseph, you do.

712
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: And also something that I realized and people, it's hard

713
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: people to understand just like you're human and you're hearing

714
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Speaker 1: what we say. When you guys write in, we're reading shit.

715
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know why people do not expect us

716
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: to have feelings and have comments on the things that

717
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: you write into us. It's almost like they're surprised that

718
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: we say something and it's not loving and glowing just

719
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: because you walked your ass.

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Speaker 3: Students honestly don't caring.

721
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Speaker 2: I think I think that's given them too much credit

722
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: because a person like that unless they are not a

723
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: smart person, right, And I would say that kind of

724
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: person is typically not a good faith person. And I

725
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: would say most of the time, if there's ever a

726
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: comment that where it's like, man, they went off on

727
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: that comment, I would say it's because we sensed it's

728
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: not good faith, not because it was disagreeing, because it's

729
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: not good right, saying every week disagreeing about shit.

730
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Speaker 3: Everyone who writes in has.

731
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Speaker 2: Put out disagreements, just they have some and many sean

732
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Speaker 2: uh who we joke back and forth, you know, like

733
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Speaker 2: it's like it's not just you have to write in

734
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: and agree, but it's when you're like, they expect a

735
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: nice response. I don't think they do. I think even

736
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: that person that just wrote that was hoping to.

737
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Speaker 3: Prove their point. Yes with me being like.

738
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: You motherfucker, Oh how can you write in? But then

739
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: write the fuck you bitch or whatever? Like something they need,

740
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: there's a that's something in it. I found this in

741
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: my lifetime. I'm not a mean person, but I also

742
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: will stand my ground on people, and I won't like

743
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: mince my words, right, and I'm pretty accurate and concise

744
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: with my language in a way that it is cutting

745
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: to people, if not necessarily that the goal is to

746
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: cut you. But but I'm saying if the goal is

747
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: to cut you, I'm gonna to cut you if it's

748
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: gonna make some people feel bad, because I'm not backing

749
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: down I'm not pulling my punches, and I know in

750
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: general a lot of people, I'd say most people kind

751
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: of do, especially those who want to be like more

752
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: progressive liberal people they pride themselves on, like.

753
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: Well, listen, all criticism is valid. If that's how you feel,

754
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: then that you know, then your feelings are valid. And

755
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: I'm a person's like, no, that's not and what you

756
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 3: said didn't happen, And people will really have their feelings hurt.

757
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: You know.

758
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: I used to go back and forth with people back

759
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: in the day, write emails and stuff. But that's when

760
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: I used to think there was like a convincing of people.

761
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: But I realize over time, like, no, some people are

762
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: just this way. They like negative attention if they can't

763
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: get any other attention.

764
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Speaker 3: Agreed, But you know me, you know my motto.

765
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 6: I want to make my mom a proud. You guys

766
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 6: are not doing anything with your life. You may not

767
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 6: see it, but I'm trying to do I'm trying to

768
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 6: accomplish something. You guys are preventing me from that. All

769
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 6: y'all haters, Like I'm trying to accomplish my dreams. If

770
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 6: you don't like me, just block me.

771
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything to you. It's that simple shout

772
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: out to that white girl Lovely Land ninety six.

773
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: That is excellent podcast. Thank you.

774
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: The Girl on the Other Side of the Road said,

775
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: when Rod didn't ask Karen to clarify about the hot

776
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: dog toppings, and when Rod asked Karen to clarify her answer,

777
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: so it's like and the emojis are like fighting emojis.

778
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: So it's like when Rod doesn't didn't ask Karen to

779
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: clarify about a hot dog topics, everybody was ready to

780
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: fight me. And then when when I did ask her, like, well,

781
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: can you what did you mean by that? It's dad

782
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: they ready to fight me again. It's like, like, how

783
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: can I always be a fighting.

784
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: Oh baby? Oh? To go back to what you were

785
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: saying before too, about you know, people in their personalities

786
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: and things like that, and and and when you were

787
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: saying how you're very plain and and kind of I

788
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: personally call it flat footed, you know, maybe because I'm

789
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: old with with how you feel, like this is how

790
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: I feel blah blah blah blah blah. I'm I am

791
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: to the point where I like for people to tell

792
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: me how they feel about things. And we live in

793
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: a society where everybody wants everything sugar coated everything, won't everything,

794
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: bubble wrapped everything, won't everything to make them motherfucking feel good.

795
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: I rather you tell me you don't like me, so

796
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: we both know where we stand. I rather you like

797
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: like like like, like, let's cut through the muck and

798
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: the mire and the bullshit. Most people are used to

799
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: people who they like the back and forth, they like

800
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: the jousting, and you're like, no, we're not doing this.

801
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: This is how I feel, and that's it. And a

802
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: lot of times people aren't used to telling people really

803
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: how they feel, because when most people have conversations with people,

804
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: they're not actually telling the truth a lot of times.

805
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: And so when you're like, this is how I feel,

806
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: these are the opinions that I have, they're taking aback

807
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: because they're used to have, like you say, having those debates,

808
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: having that back and forth, to quote unquote have the conversation.

809
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, with all the platitudes that to coming walk West.

810
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: I think also like we've been doing this a long time,

811
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Speaker 2: Yes we have. Like I lean on my sixteen years

812
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: of experience over any one comment, like I know when

813
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: somebody's being a fucker and when they're not like it,

814
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: and I don't know what to tell you, Like, very

815
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: rarely has it been like a damn man, I think

816
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: I went too far. I what I will do for

817
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: my years of experience is cut people off down the

818
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Speaker 2: road where I'm like, I don't need to drive the

819
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: whole knowledge with you to know you were trying to

820
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Speaker 2: be a jerk. Right, I'm honestly not that bad compared

821
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: to I think many many other people. I think, what

822
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: and I'm not that vulgar and cutting people out? What

823
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: if you really pay attention. I rarely name Paul, Right,

824
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: it's very rare that I name call people motherfuckers and

825
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: pieces of shit all that. That's not even to me,

826
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: that's not if I was trying to hurt your feelings.

827
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: Those aren't the hurtful things I said. I know that

828
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: they conveyed disrespect, but I think what's hurtful is being accurate.

829
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: Like accuracy is way more hurtful than your bitch or whatever.

830
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: Like I'm sure we all do it, we get mad

831
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: their stuff, but like when something, at least in my life,

832
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: the things that stuck with me is insults are all

833
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: things where I'm like, shit, that was true and so

834
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: that's what I would aim to do if I was

835
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: aiming to insult you. What I think is funny is

836
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 2: I did not name call that person. The chat room

837
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: was named calling this person immediately, you know, So like,

838
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: I feel like i'd be pretty reasonable about this shit.

839
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: But once again I don't. I think you just now

840
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: are still giving these people too much credit the whole,

841
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: like they expect everyone to be nice.

842
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: I don't think they do.

843
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: I really think a lot of times they anticipate getting

844
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: cussed out. Some people like the attention of getting cussed out.

845
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 2: They don't right now. They're not stupid enough to write

846
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: end in a way that will make me immediately dismiss

847
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: some or you immediately dismissed like they you know, they

848
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: wrote in, Hey I hate Rod and Karen is a bitch,

849
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: Rod is gay, blah blah blah. We're not even gonna

850
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: read that comment. It would never make it through to

851
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: the show. But if you write in and go and

852
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: just lie, every time somebody says something about the show,

853
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: they go off and Rod calls them motherfuckers, and they

854
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: always aiming at me. Rod calls them motherfuckers and all

855
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 2: this shit. Meanwhile, Karen conveys things with much more passion

856
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: and ferocity, and we'll call you a motherfucker bitch all

857
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: the time, and no one ever writes in about that.

858
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: Zero times in sixteen years has someone written in.

859
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: They there's some sort of issue with me particularly, And

860
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: so I, you know, I just accept that this we

861
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: put our shit out here in the public, and that

862
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: people are allowed to comment, but but we just don't.

863
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: I don't play the game.

864
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: We don't play the game of all comments are equal,

865
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: all comments are welcome, all comments are fair. No, not

866
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: every listener is valuable, not every comment.

867
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: Trying to get every not.

868
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 3: Every critique is valuable or valid.

869
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: Nope.

870
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: And once you do away with that brainwash bullshit that

871
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: they tell people who are creatives, the world opens up

872
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: because you see yourself and you see the footsteps that

873
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: you want to take in front of you and the

874
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: path that you're on, and you can walk with clarity

875
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: instead of just trying to you know, do this.

876
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: Happy to be here bullshit?

877
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: To me, the worst type of people that podcasts are

878
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: the long as we get in comments, long as we

879
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: getting clicks, long as we get reviews, I don't care

880
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: if they hate me.

881
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: To me, that's how you become a breakfast club.

882
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: Whereas like, long as people watch it, it doesn't matter

883
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: if they hate it, doesn't matter if they love it.

884
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: They watch it, watch it.

885
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: And yes, they are rich and they are powerful and

886
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: they are gonna be bigger and better than us in

887
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: many many ways that matter to capitalism and society. But

888
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: I'll sleep soundly tonight and never think about this comment

889
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: again because I know it's not true, and I know

890
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: I walk with clarity, and I think that's the difference.

891
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: So I'm so up before we go on, what's really I.

892
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: Just want to know I was ready to move on now.

893
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: The person that wrote this comment is gonna be like

894
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: they always go off and they keep talking. I just

895
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 2: want y'all know I'm ready go on, caring the one

896
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 2: coming back on, y'all.

897
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: Okay, she's not.

898
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: Letting it go now, y'all gonna right in next week

899
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 2: can be like Rod went off, Rod did not go off.

900
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: Rod did not go We did?

901
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: This did turn into a ten minute tangent. And it's

902
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: because Karen's like, and before we move on, one more.

903
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: Thing, because she has a lot to say because it

904
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: bothers her too.

905
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all, can blame me. This is my fault.

906
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's not a blame thing.

907
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out what's happening in real time so

908
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: that when the next asshole right saying what Rod calls

909
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: everybody the motherfucker, and he goes off and he won't

910
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: move on while you got.

911
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: A feedback show.

912
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: If you can't take criticism, just know that I've tried

913
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: to move on two to three times now. Karen keeps

914
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: going back and one more time because it bothers her

915
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 2: as well.

916
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: And also the thing about it too is I think

917
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: because you're the man in this relationship or you know,

918
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: have the male energy in this relationship, people always assume

919
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: that men are angrier kind of than women. But truth

920
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: be told a lot of times. Like I said, I'm

921
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: very passionate and I have very strong emotions about a

922
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: lot of things. And the thing is I am, actually,

923
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to say meaner than Rod, but you

924
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: know the way mine angerish is released is very different

925
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: than Rod, you know, And so you know, between the

926
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: both of us, I rather not try funny, y'allol, Rather

927
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: him be mad than me me mad? You don't want

928
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: me mad? I that's just I just know my personality.

929
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: So you know a lot of the times people target

930
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: like try to hit me the target rod, But I

931
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: just let that happen because I understand for a lot

932
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: of people, I an afterthought. Now, unless you're a real

933
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: fan of the show and you appreciate me and what

934
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: I bring to the show, you completely understand. But like

935
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: right said, we've been doing this for a very long time,

936
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: so we just about any tactic that you can use.

937
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: Underneath the Sun we have seen it.

938
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 3: Lovely listens, excellent podcast. Thank you. Oh wait, no, I'm sorry.

939
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: Meeks seventy six says I guess I'm one of the

940
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: ones that because I never had a pawn something but

941
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 2: shout out to the inflation in Trump's tariffs, I may

942
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 2: be just end in my street. It's also a shame,

943
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: but very indicative of the time that we can't just

944
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: see clarifications or corrections for what it actually is. Trump

945
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: and his ilk have gotten to us to a place

946
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: where disagreement or point of clarification is seen as aggressive

947
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: or dismissive. As you pointed out, this is an unscripted conversation,

948
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: so it's not going to be perfect. Hence they need

949
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: to clarify. Also, if everyone listens all the way to

950
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: the end, you both end with I love you. That

951
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: is intentional anyone. Thanks anyhow, thanks again for making the

952
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: time to do this podcast.

953
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: Appreciate you.

954
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: M I agree with both Rod and Karen that there

955
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: was no correction, just a request for colaborication, which was achieved.

956
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: It's so crazy that the person who wrote in originally

957
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: is the one who wrote back like, oh yeah, I

958
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: see what y'all saying, and it made me do some

959
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: introspection and uh, yeah I have I may have this

960
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: is because of other things that and then there's someone like, no,

961
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: it is not.

962
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: That all right, Kim Doc says, that's hilarious.

963
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: Uh this.

964
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: I have to say that when having a conversation with

965
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: my girlfriend, I think I'm being clear and I'm cooking,

966
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: and she'll ask me to drill down on something I've

967
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: just thrown against the wall, and I go into a shell.

968
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: What you're talking about is truly helpful to me. I'm

969
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: always like, well, damn, why can't you let that point cook?

970
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: Why you got to ask questions? Lol? Completely ridiculous.

971
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: But I'm also not used to people thinking asking deeper

972
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: questions and interrogating why I and I think that cut

973
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: off for some reason. Normals it's like Ali, but it's not.

974
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: But then she did right back. I forgot to say,

975
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: my girlfriend hit me with a web. Well, you want

976
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: to just have super surface conversations, let me know. I

977
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: was upset, but I took a step back and we

978
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: had a better understanding of the topic and where we

979
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: both were coming from. The conversation was about black people resting.

980
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,479
Speaker 2: I kept saying, when the hell are we ever going

981
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: to get off of the mat though?

982
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: Damn lol.

983
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm still conflicted about about it, but I think the

984
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: election and the way it appears certain groups voted with

985
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: such a betrayal. Also know it gets violent as fuck

986
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: when we do step up and come to the front.

987
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: But let's be real. These white leg protests, ain't it man? Man,

988
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm out of the pro protest stuff.

989
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: Ain't my business, it really ain't. I wasn't out there

990
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: for none of the.

991
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: Protests, so it's not.

992
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: However, y'all want to direct them, fine, maybe they'll listen

993
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: to the white folks.

994
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: I don't know. I walked through the park the other

995
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 3: day and I've seen some white.

996
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: People older, well, some older people, mostly women and mostly white,

997
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: but they weren't all white, they weren't all older, and

998
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 2: they weren't all women. So it was all kinds of groups,

999
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: but mostly an older white women crowd. And it was

1000
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: like the women legal voters for Charlotte, and they were

1001
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: organizing one of those like go protests, like going inside

1002
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: the street with your signs, you know, no kings type thing,

1003
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: and honestly, man, it made me smile. I was proud

1004
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: of them. I was thankful for them. I really think

1005
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: it's important that we walk around with that, because that's

1006
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: what's gonna take is this backseat criticizing and taking away

1007
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: the momentum people that actually are put in there. They're

1008
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: putting their freedom on the line. I think I'm not joking.

1009
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm being hyperbolic. And with this administration,

1010
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't care what race.

1011
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 3: You are, what gender you are.

1012
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 2: I think when you go out there on the front

1013
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: lines of a protest, you are actually putting your freedom

1014
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: at risk. I don't think this is not an administration

1015
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 2: that plays.

1016
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 3: By the rules.

1017
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: They've already imprisoned people who've protested in the United States

1018
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: and done it illegally. Like done it without any justification,

1019
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: lied about it, so I won't down play their courage

1020
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: and strategy, and honestly, I hope it works. And most

1021
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: of these people probably voted the right way and did

1022
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: all the right things. So I don't have anything to

1023
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: ask of these people that they haven't already done.

1024
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 3: So congrats to them.

1025
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: And I don't know about the black people stuff, Honestly,

1026
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: I really don't know. I haven't looked into it enough

1027
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: to have any real concrete proof that black people are like,

1028
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: straight up, there's nothing we would protest right now, or

1029
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: that black people are like.

1030
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: No longer care whatever.

1031
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: Everything I see with that is from the internet, and

1032
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: so I have to be careful with social media because

1033
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: social media escalates and.

1034
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: The descent and.

1035
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: Divide sometimes in a way that isn't necessarily proportionate to

1036
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: real life. So like I'll see a video on a

1037
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: protest and it'll be a black person recording from their

1038
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: card doing I ain't going out there something, and then

1039
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: it'll be shared millions of times, and I'm like, was

1040
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: that every black person in LA or was that one

1041
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: black person that got shared a million times? Once again,

1042
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: I'm not giving any conclusive I just don't know how

1043
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: to feel. I'm like, maybe that is how it is

1044
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: out there right now. It's just gonna be like this

1045
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: and it sucks. Or maybe like there's black people in

1046
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: those protests and it's just not black lead.

1047
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1048
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: Agreed by the way, carrying the liquid death water is

1049
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: just it's just water. But there's something about water from

1050
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: aluminum can that I really like, can't explain it.

1051
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: It's the seven dollars price tag.

1052
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: I guess, oh, okay. I remember the first time because

1053
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: it was the people talking about liquid depth. I was like,

1054
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: that don't and then I was like, it's water because

1055
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: I used to see the cans when they first started

1056
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: coming here and I was like, the fuck is this

1057
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: is this alcohol? Yeah, dreaking this.

1058
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 2: It bothered me because I went to get water at

1059
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: a comedy venue and from the bar and they did

1060
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: not They did not have water like bottled water.

1061
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 3: They would not give me bottled water. They wouldn't give me.

1062
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: Even a cup of water. And I'm like, but I

1063
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: would like water. That was like, we got liquid death

1064
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: and they didn't explain it was water. I was like,

1065
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: they just put a candle liquid death on the counter

1066
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 2: for like seven dollarss, like what I don't want alcohol?

1067
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: I want then there's like it is water and that's

1068
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 2: how I found out.

1069
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: Okay, see, I'm glad I'm not the only one that

1070
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: this sounds like alcohol. I was like, the fuck is that?

1071
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's promoted that way and everything. I

1072
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: think that's part of the point. But yeah, shout out

1073
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: to you your girlfriend. I think I think it's so

1074
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: interesting because obviously we all walk around with our own trauma,

1075
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: but when someone asked you to explain to clarify, that's

1076
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: not supposed to be an attack, especially from coming from

1077
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 2: a person that loves you and.

1078
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: Is acting in good faith.

1079
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 2: I think there's nothing that shows more love then I

1080
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: actually care what you think about this on a level

1081
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: that's deeper than just what you said.

1082
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: I would like you to drill down on it because

1083
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 3: I want to.

1084
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: I want to like incorporate it into my thoughts and

1085
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: my being and my feelings about you. Is I'm not

1086
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 2: just saying I think one of the most funny funny

1087
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: things is how people will politely dismiss and not pay

1088
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: attention to folks, but because it's happened in a polite way,

1089
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: they think it's caring where to me, I'm like, oh,

1090
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: that person didn't even hear what that person said.

1091
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: They don't give a fuck what they just said.

1092
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And so it's you know, hopefully they're

1093
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: listening and actively listening in a way that would make them,

1094
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: you know, you want to like explain it because they

1095
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 2: do want to know.

1096
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: Right And I also, I think when I realized this,

1097
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: when most people are having a conversation, even with people

1098
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: that they love, for most people, they're not actually listening.

1099
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: They're just waiting for you to stop so that they

1100
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: can feel in their comments like you know, but when

1101
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: you're actually listening listening, it slows shit down, and people

1102
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: do not like that part of like like that part

1103
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: of having a real conversation. Like you said, we understand

1104
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: and bad faith that there's YadA YadA, YadA, but we're

1105
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: talking about somebody asks you to clarify this, actually not.

1106
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: Their purpose is not to fucking attack you. Their purpose

1107
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: is not I got you like. Their purpose is I

1108
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: want to understand you better as a human being. You know,

1109
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: I want to get closer to you because I love

1110
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: you and I care about your thought process and I

1111
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: want to know how did you come to this conclusion.

1112
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: What were the things that contributed to it? Like, like

1113
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: like fundamentally who you are? Because you know, when people

1114
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: come up with these ideas and these thoughts, they don't

1115
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: come out of the blue. They have things attached to them.

1116
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: So a lot of time people ask for clarification. Sometimes

1117
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: they want to know the things that are attached, the

1118
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: deeper meaning behind the words that are coming out of

1119
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: your mouth. I think some people are used to talking

1120
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: and not explaining, and then when they explain, they going

1121
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: to panic mode. And I this is what I realized.

1122
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: If you say something and you are flat footed on

1123
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: it and it's foundational to you and it's truthful to you,

1124
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: you will be able to explain yourself. If you say

1125
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: something and it's based off of the Internet, or it's

1126
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: based off other people's opinions and it's not based off

1127
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: of who you fundamentally are, you will not be able

1128
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: to explain yourself.

1129
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1130
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: Also, like I think another thing people aren't used to,

1131
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: Especially for me, I do very little thinking it through

1132
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 2: live on the podcast. When I do, I try to

1133
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: make note of it. Like, guys, I'm thinking this through.

1134
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure that I have a point yet.

1135
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: Like I'm working on this as I'm talking, but vast

1136
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: majority of time, because I'm an overthinker, I've already come

1137
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: to my conclusion. So I think sometimes people are like

1138
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: they see an opinion, and especially when they don't agree

1139
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: with it's like, how.

1140
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 3: Do I challenge it?

1141
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: And I've thought of the challenges, and so I think

1142
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: that throws people off too, to be like, how can

1143
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: he be so you know, how can he be so

1144
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: sure of his opinions? Like, Oh, it's not I'm only

1145
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: telling y'all for the first time. This is your first

1146
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: time hearing it. You're probably not gonna come up with

1147
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: a point where I'm like, damn, didn't even think about that,

1148
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: like more times or not. I did think about it.

1149
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: I might not have arrived to the conclusion you wanted

1150
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: me to, but I did consider it.

1151
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 3: I just don't want to do it the way you want, right.

1152
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: And also, like I said, I think for me because

1153
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: we have a trust with each other, and you know,

1154
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: when we ask these things, like you say, it's not

1155
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: coming from a malicious place or anything like that. That's

1156
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: why I'm very open with it. And if I don't know,

1157
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: but I don't know, you know, And not knowing is okay?

1158
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: Is okay?

1159
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: Not the end of the world, right, you know, especially

1160
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 2: when it's emotional stuff, right, Sometimes it's not.

1161
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 3: It's not a good there's no good answer.

1162
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: Sometimes Eric says, good to see you with the other,

1163
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: with our other Karen. First time watching YouTube, I usually

1164
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: just listen to the pod. I like how Karen, my

1165
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: wife has become the other Karen to the Karen Hunter fans.

1166
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't mind being the other Karen.

1167
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 3: Do you have an emotional support podcast? You listening to?

1168
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: You listen to?

1169
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: Eighty one percent said yes, not ten percent say no.

1170
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's play some commercials. Has been long enough.

1171
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

1172
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: Where my money at you?

1173
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 7: What you talking about it?

1174
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: Last?

1175
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: The next episode is thirty one Coplay, Canodle and Cheating

1176
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: CEO canceled.

1177
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: Man.

1178
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: I've just said the thirteen party system version of both

1179
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: sides are the same. Is all politicians lie anyway? And

1180
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: I'm not voting because in Germany they got thirteen parties,

1181
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, I.

1182
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 3: Knew there was.

1183
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: There's a type of person that is going to always

1184
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: say it's all bullshit, whether they're lazy, uninformed, ignorant, whatever,

1185
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: and they're gonna always make it everyone else's fault. I

1186
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: truly do think, and I, of course, in this time

1187
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: it feels weird to say, but I truly do think

1188
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: the two party system in America leaves no fucking excuses.

1189
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: You're just a bad person. You don't care, and you're

1190
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: a bad person.

1191
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: That's it.

1192
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: Like who could look at these two choices and think

1193
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: they're equal weight or don't matter and won't to affect

1194
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: people's lives.

1195
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: You just don't care about the people who lives are

1196
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 3: the fact, and you're a bad person.

1197
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: There you go, Karen, I, as a teenager, Apia could

1198
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: be panicking about old technology, just fine, looking at a

1199
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: phone that didn't even that didn't ring, even if the

1200
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: guy said he would call me and refuse to lead

1201
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: the room in case it could ring. Exactly at the

1202
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: time is a clear memory, but maybe just me. I

1203
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: guess that was because we were talking about.

1204
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: The old song.

1205
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the songs with the old technology.

1206
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: I think that was the point of the.

1207
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: Segment though, because we talked about genuine man genuine had

1208
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: all that old technology.

1209
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: He was in the house mad.

1210
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: She ain't call him, so I ain't chances by the

1211
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: name of the song.

1212
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: They won't gonna meet to eleven thirty, and he was

1213
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: pissed off.

1214
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: At ten ten he was paiging where you been?

1215
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mary says right. I also prefer cardio with then

1216
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: waits in that order. I've tried it the other way,

1217
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: but it's much harder for some reason. Oh my god,

1218
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: it's so harder. It's so much harder. I've done the like,

1219
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: Like my trainer one time suggested, like, you know, if

1220
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: you want to, you could like lift waights and then

1221
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: go shoot around for like fifteen minutes. And I would

1222
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: lift waights and then go in the gym to shoot around.

1223
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't even make it fifteen minutes, like because after

1224
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: I had my legs on that sled and my arms

1225
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: on the bench, and I was like, I was like,

1226
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: this is impossible.

1227
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: Who the fuck got fifteen minutes of this left?

1228
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: F on?

1229
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: You got ten five minutes and I'm ready to go.

1230
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: But the other way, if I went in there and

1231
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: shot around fifteen twenty thirty minutes even and then with

1232
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: the lyft weights, it doesn't bother me lifting weights later.

1233
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: But I feel like maybe the cardio gets you loose anyway,

1234
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: maybe because there's no break when the cardio, but will wait.

1235
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: You can take longer rest period if you need to.

1236
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: That's true too. Anyway, I'm so inspired by you and

1237
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm cheering you on fro another coast. Thank you, Mary,

1238
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: and you are inspirational as well. I always see her

1239
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: out here running. Yes, you know, participating in these like

1240
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: these caves, you know them fives from ten's and whatever,

1241
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: all them k's so you know we're all doing it together.

1242
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: Man shoe Boody says, ride. Don't tell your hydrate Amazon

1243
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: scam out loud. Don't get gotten by big water, not

1244
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: liquid death.

1245
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: They don't come get me, don't get you to take

1246
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 3: you down.

1247
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: I was waiting to hear Karen how that Karen inexplicably

1248
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: got mac and cheese added to her Chinese fish.

1249
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: I don't think they had it on them in you

1250
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: at this time.

1251
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: Man Dovin knows, Daddy, said Nikki, taking a page from

1252
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: the other famous narcissist, A fanatical hope that should be

1253
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: called Mamra making Onika Minaj great again. Wait wouldn't that

1254
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: be Margra Oh relevant? Oh they changed it the relevant again. Okay,

1255
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: there you go, Mamra, I get it. Yeah, that's pretty funny.

1256
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: Even he says, this episode came just in time. I

1257
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: was just thinking about how some songs are so outdated.

1258
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: I was listening to High Fives Quality time. There's a

1259
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: line that goes, when my page goes off, I'll ignore, baby,

1260
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: because I really want to be with you. No one

1261
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: has a pager anywhere, except the con you get at

1262
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: restaurants when you wait at tables. Even now, restaurants are

1263
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: moving away from that because you can just give them

1264
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: their phone number.

1265
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 3: They'll text you. Kids today will never know.

1266
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: Some doctors still happen. Other than that, most people do

1267
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: not carry pages.

1268
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj said, I mean Nicki Minaj is going outside, says,

1269
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: but there's something I find interesting about our situation. When

1270
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: people were coming at Aubrey and Wayne, she defended them

1271
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: and has been very vocal by her supported them. But

1272
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: whenever she gets into any kind of beef, I don't

1273
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: hear from any of her crew. Sounds to me that

1274
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: maybe she should stop being so pressed over Rock Nation

1275
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: says and any other female rapper she hates and start

1276
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: looking at her own camp. I think she's surrounded by

1277
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: ops and that's probably why she's a paranoid.

1278
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: Man. I don't know what's.

1279
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: Happening to that woman, But man, that's it's sad. I

1280
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: was thinking about this the other day. Lil Wayne, Drake

1281
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: and Nikki all that young money Triumvirent was like the

1282
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: shit they were running rap.

1283
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: For a minute, Yes they were.

1284
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: And to see all of them kind of like slide

1285
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: into the paranoid, hyper internet obsessed type of people and

1286
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: all have their weird sort of like feedback loop with

1287
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: the Internet, it's sad. Man Like Drake is obviously super

1288
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: tapped it. He's streaming, he's doing He's a fucking streamer

1289
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: at this point, like there's nothing more on the Internet.

1290
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: Then you're doing streams instead of like releasing albums and

1291
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: singles and you're stopping your tour and you're posting.

1292
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: You forget that. He stopped his too and just never

1293
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: came back.

1294
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: Passive regressive social media post blah blah blah. Meanwhile, you

1295
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: know the guy that took him down, Kendrick is one

1296
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: of the most let me keep my phone off ass

1297
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: motherfuckers in the world who doesn't do any of this

1298
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 2: stream like he's not he he destroyed Drake Drake's Internet

1299
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: presence while not truly being an Internet presence. I still

1300
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: think it's funny to go look at his Twitter account

1301
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 2: and see, like the last year and a half is

1302
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: just nothing but post of drop, this release that, here's

1303
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: this album, here's this song, here's a YouTube.

1304
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: It's none of this, Like.

1305
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: I'm hanging out with y'all trying to convince y'all that

1306
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm the greatest.

1307
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: And don't have to I shouldn't have to.

1308
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: So Drake, clearly he hangs out with and tries to

1309
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 2: convince us he's the greatest. He really had wants to

1310
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 2: have a strong presence with social media streamers like academics.

1311
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: And shit like that.

1312
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: It's very weird how tapped in he is. And I

1313
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: get I get it because that's what won him the

1314
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: battle against Meek Mill, but it's also what kind of

1315
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: lost in the battle against pusha t Like the Internet

1316
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: was like, nah, nigga, you can't run from this one.

1317
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: So anyway, and then of course Lil Wayne the super

1318
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: Bowl thing, well, he turned himself into a victim for

1319
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: something that was never on the table.

1320
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: Never on the table.

1321
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: No one was.

1322
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 2: Asking him or Young Money to represent the Super Bowl

1323
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. It's not a thing that happens where

1324
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: like we always recognize the city that it's in.

1325
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: It fummas all over the place for the super Bowl.

1326
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: And he let the internet drive that.

1327
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: He let social media commentators drive him into a victim

1328
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: mentality of like, I can't believe they did me like this,

1329
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, that's some really sad loser shit.

1330
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: He was making videos about it, sounding all Lil Wayne

1331
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 2: about it.

1332
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: You know, no, no har me to do. I'm like no.

1333
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: And then of course Nikki like the barbs have I mean,

1334
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: at this point, who's driving that car? Heard the barbs?

1335
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: Feel like the barbs drive Nikki, not the other way around.

1336
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: And so many of them not even being black women.

1337
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 2: It's like super weird and scary.

1338
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, who would have saw that coming? That's all

1339
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1340
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: And I wonder how much of that is related to

1341
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 2: that era of music in rap being extremely correlated with

1342
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: cells and chart numbers in a way that a sort of, uh,

1343
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: sort of took away the artistic quality and merit of

1344
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: that art because what people would argue about was not

1345
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: how good or bad a song was, how artistic or

1346
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: interpolated or lyricism whatever. It just feels like, well, Drake

1347
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 2: got seven number one hits this year.

1348
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 3: He's the best. You know, so and so Niki did this,

1349
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 3: she's the best.

1350
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: And I wonder if because that is a quantitative and

1351
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: a quantitative argument that leads to online almost like the

1352
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: sports suffocation of arguments, whereas like Jordan won six championships,

1353
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: Kobe won five, you know.

1354
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 3: That kind of thing.

1355
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: I wonder if that created this navel gazing in those artists.

1356
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: And they have to spiral out because no artist stays

1357
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: on top forever. So when that next artist comes, or

1358
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: when you have that lull or that period where you're

1359
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 2: starting to fall off.

1360
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: You can't gracefully fall off. You can't just bow that

1361
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: back and be like, all right, I guess I'm out

1362
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 3: for a while. You you have never experience. You've always

1363
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: been able to quantify your way out of things. Yes,

1364
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 3: and you can't do that anymore.

1365
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 2: Push your t destroys you throughout the culture, but you

1366
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 2: were able to quantify your way out, Like look at

1367
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: these number one hits. Though well he does have no

1368
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: one hits. I guess he's still a thing. And now

1369
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: you don't have that argument because the hits ain't number one.

1370
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: No more, people can pull up the Kendrick numbers, and

1371
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: now it's looking worse for you, uh not to mention

1372
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: with Nikki. I mean, so many women at this point

1373
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: are on when she's not on.

1374
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I wonder.

1375
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: If they are just another victim of the Internet age,

1376
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: you know.

1377
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: So it's one of them things too, where you know,

1378
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: he's dropping things and people are People don't even talk

1379
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: about him anymore, own me, no harm, not like they

1380
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: used to.

1381
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even if they talk about it, that's

1382
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: my point, right, that's my point though, even if they

1383
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: are talking about it, we actually don't know that they're

1384
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: not talking about it.

1385
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying, what used to matter was the number I.

1386
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: See somebody yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, like the stream.

1387
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: It would being fair.

1388
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: Drake used to drop shit all the time that my

1389
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: people in my circle weren't talking about you know what

1390
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But would you go look at them numbers

1391
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, clearly somebody motherfucking.

1392
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 3: Talking about it. It's number one. Yes.

1393
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: Now that they don't just have the BAM, I dropped

1394
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: number one, everyone's afraid to put music out when I'm

1395
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 2: putting music out Now that they don't have that, man,

1396
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: they it's like they spiraled out into something like who

1397
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: am I? How do I have to constantly attack people to.

1398
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: Prove who I am?

1399
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 2: They don't seem comfortable just being that. And the artists

1400
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 2: that are that came up in an era before them,

1401
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: that are a little bit older, that are starting to

1402
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 2: make comebacks now, they do not seem to be this obsessed.

1403
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 2: Meaning the clips got a number one album released last week,

1404
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: but they're not.

1405
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: They don't seem pressed to be like, we're number one.

1406
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: Look at our albumselves, look at our streams.

1407
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: Obviously, nas jay Z has literally been like I'm good,

1408
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: and I know people try to like dis some them

1409
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: for that, but I think one a lot of those

1410
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: people are like nas apologists as weirdos, which is I

1411
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 2: won't even start on that we're so old, what is

1412
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: wrong with you?

1413
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 7: Right?

1414
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: But but the thing that I'm like, no, I appreciate

1415
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 2: him being like, I don't really have a thing to

1416
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: say right now, and that's okay. My kids, I'm living life.

1417
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 2: I'm being a dad, like I can always have this skill.

1418
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure I will rap again. Maybe at some point.

1419
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 2: He didn't do an official I'm retiring thing like he

1420
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: used to do all the time back in the day.

1421
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: This might be the last one. He just he dropped

1422
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: four forty four and just every once in a while

1423
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: he'll do a feature or something, but he just played

1424
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 2: the back and I'm like, right, because that's what.

1425
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 3: Happens when you're not that obsessed with the chart number.

1426
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,959
Speaker 2: And Jay was a guy who I thought would spiral

1427
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: out like that because he used to run the charts.

1428
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 3: It used to be this many summers in a row.

1429
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: I was running the something like he.

1430
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: Used to be like that, But he wasn't saying it

1431
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: wasn't always this many summers I had the number one album.

1432
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 3: It was this many summers. I felt like I.

1433
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: Ran the culture, which is a totally different argument than

1434
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 2: I have the number one album.

1435
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: I sold the most records. Is not that it's not related.

1436
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: Like he does talk about sales, he does talk about charts,

1437
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,879
Speaker 2: but he wasn't just a it's because my album dominated

1438
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 2: the chart.

1439
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 3: That's why I'm the man.

1440
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: It was I'm the man, and because I'm the man,

1441
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,839
Speaker 2: the album dominated the charts. It's a slight, slight difference,

1442
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 2: but it makes all the difference, and it's why a

1443
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: guy like that can go I don't need to make

1444
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 2: an album out the four forty four right away, Like

1445
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: I can take five six, I can take however long

1446
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: I want to.

1447
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 3: I'll be fine when I come back.

1448
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, you will if I choose to come back right.

1449
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, I think Nikki, Wayne and Drake are three

1450
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: prime examples of people that never felt they could take

1451
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: tom off. They always felt like they That's why Lil

1452
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: Wayne had thirty million mixed tastes. It's why you know,

1453
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: like they Drake obviously like they can't. They they couldn't

1454
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: stop swimming because like the illusion of I run the

1455
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: game was that fragile, and look at him, they spiraled out.

1456
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 2: Those are my hip hop thoughts. I keep experimenting with

1457
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: this idea doing a hip hop podcast, probably like a

1458
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: solo thing or something, but honestly, they just hold me up,

1459
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 2: Like I keep trying to come up with the name,

1460
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, not yet, that's not a good enough name.

1461
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it for

1462
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 3: those that are interested in that.

1463
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 2: Sean says, in regard to the old technology, and Larric's

1464
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: one of my students, put together a simple lesson what

1465
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 2: he used Bruno Mars's Lazy song for a translate and

1466
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: discuss activity to translation for don't feel like picking up

1467
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 2: my phone, so leave a message at the tone were wild?

1468
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 3: That song was from twenty ten.

1469
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 2: Damn wow, Yeah, I guess technology has advanced that fast.

1470
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: It's the hass YouTube ramsey pH Dunes has five stars.

1471
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: I look forward to both of the bad term politics

1472
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: till we get mad segments. The Girl on the Other

1473
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: Side of the Road says, gay men love Nikki, like

1474
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: if you ever met a gay man, there's a high

1475
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 2: chance there Nikki fan is not only white guys, but

1476
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: all gays. Many of them aren't teenagers too, Like there

1477
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: are barbs over thirty and we now, and we now

1478
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: because at the time of Megan versus Nikki, when the

1479
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: bars were docksing people, some people docked them back and

1480
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: found these were grown men, and some of them when

1481
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 2: we're using their jobs to docs people.

1482
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 3: Yeah and oh, she means we know, but yes, I agree.

1483
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: But my okay, my point isn't that.

1484
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: Her fans aren't like gay men, they aren't black or whatever,

1485
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: because I think we both agree that. I'm saying, who

1486
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 2: are the harassers? I wonder because and look online, I

1487
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: don't have any proof to back this up.

1488
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 3: This is completely.

1489
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 2: A anecdotal, evidence based feeling, meaning I just see shit

1490
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: sometimes and be like, look at this shit.

1491
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: That's but it feels in a weird way.

1492
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: Like no one that cared about her as a black

1493
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: woman in our culture would lead her down this road

1494
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: or destruction. And it feels very white to me. It

1495
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 2: feels transactional. It feels like she's not that's not real

1496
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 2: that they love her, you know what I'm saying that,

1497
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 2: But that's just me I feel, and that's how I've

1498
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: that's how I've experienced blackness, and that when black people

1499
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 2: care about somebody in their art, they're not trying to

1500
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: get them to destroy themselves.

1501
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: No, that's the last thing they want.

1502
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 2: And this feels like they want her to destroy herself

1503
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: and they enjoy the spiral outs.

1504
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 3: They enjoy it.

1505
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: And I don't know, that feels very white to me,

1506
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 2: like art, Like that's the kind of feeling you have

1507
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: when this ain't your culture, Like there's no consequence to me,

1508
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm going back to being white after this woman does

1509
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: whatever she does, and so she's Maggan. Now I'm gonna

1510
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: support that. And maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there's a bunch

1511
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: of black gay maga dudes too. But I feel like

1512
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: the maga shit for a lot of black people, whether

1513
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: they gay, whether they like divas or not, it would

1514
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 2: be enough for them to be like, uh uh.

1515
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't support that, right, I do not anyway.

1516
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: She also said whoever stole Beyonce's unreleased songs should definitely

1517
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 2: not put it on YouTube and tag me. Uh so

1518
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: it said, all thirteen sides of the same started laughing.

1519
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 2: Dark Damn just said escape rooms. TKG says CEO, no shuffle,

1520
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: the CEO, no shuffle, and Rod said, Jason Rod, you

1521
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: are so right about how they would have they would

1522
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: treat the third political party if it ever happened. If

1523
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: you're not bright enough to be able to pick between

1524
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: Trump and Kamala, the last thing you need is more options.

1525
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 2: Try reason the game, trop break beating the game on.

1526
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 3: Easy first right.

1527
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: Also, I love to know the plain the platform of

1528
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: this mystical third party. We believe in climate change, hate trades,

1529
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: people believe black lives matter, but not on the weekends

1530
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 2: right now, explained like, and I've never seen anyone successfully

1531
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: be able to tell me what a third party platform

1532
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: that would get all of us to the table is

1533
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 2: not once, not once, because once once you have to

1534
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: start doing actual work that's beyond your work, actual work,

1535
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 2: that is beyond saying we're all angry at the system.

1536
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 2: You and you have this, okay, so what's the solution.

1537
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 2: That's when you start losing people. It's right there, like,

1538
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 2: it's why Bernie concentrates so much.

1539
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 3: On the rich people. The rich people to rich people

1540
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 3: that won't.

1541
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 2: Present the billionaires because we can all agree like, yeah,

1542
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: that's terrible. But then the second we get even a

1543
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 2: one level below that, we're like, so, what we're gonna

1544
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: do about racism?

1545
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's our identity politics? WHOA what? WHOA?

1546
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: Come on man, that's affecting my economy right. Well, you know,

1547
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: if someone wants to do have abortions and not like

1548
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: them legal in their state, that's okay, as long as

1549
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: there before against the billionaires, like what you're gonna lose

1550
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: people with that now because you had to make a choice,

1551
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: and that's what the other parties have had to do

1552
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: and no one wants to cop to.

1553
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 3: Well that's the reason there they.

1554
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 2: Can't be uh the most popular and well liked this

1555
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: because they had to make choices. You either have to

1556
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: choose we're protecting trans people and trans girls and all

1557
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: this stuff, or you say we're not.

1558
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 3: That's those are the choices.

1559
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: Those are the there's no third option.

1560
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: And you once you say that, you start losing people.

1561
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: Uh and Karen, I love when you and relate to

1562
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 2: your second degree empathy. Anybody can be out here feeling

1563
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,959
Speaker 2: for the victims of actual car accident.

1564
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 3: Queen Karen goes a step further.

1565
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: She empathizes not only with them, but also the people

1566
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: who are affected by the traffic.

1567
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 3: I like how you said, not only with them, she skipped.

1568
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: Past it and thank you something I don't understand.

1569
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 3: Trying to reframe it. She didn't care about them people.

1570
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,839
Speaker 3: She didn't even sco oh my goodness.

1571
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: Okay, Then the people who are short handed on their

1572
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 2: jobs because those people were stuck at traffic.

1573
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 3: It's like derivative empathy. Empathy. Queen Karen is doing the

1574
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 3: calculus empathy night never change you.

1575
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad you get me.

1576
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, the Poe was shit.

1577
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: Concert sporting events stopped the kiss cav seventeen percent say yes,

1578
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: eighty three percent say no. I went to eighty three percent.

1579
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: Keep the kiss cam going. Not my fault, y'all cheating right,

1580
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 2: keep it going? If anything, now that we know some

1581
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: people getting caught cheating, turn that bitch up.

1582
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: Let's get an extra minute of kiss cam. We might.

1583
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 3: I want to be at one of these.

1584
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 1: Games, right, we might. We might catch one that we

1585
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: might catch on at the Honeys game.

1586
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 3: I want to see somebody get exposed.

1587
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: You know they doing at the Honeys game in Roger

1588
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: been there before that night. Random to put the camera

1589
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: on your all.

1590
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: Don't give me no kiss cam behind the kids cam

1591
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: where I can.

1592
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 3: Control who gets them on the screen. I'm causing chaos.

1593
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: There's nothing but two men to just put all men

1594
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 2: together on the kiss camn let's see.

1595
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 3: Who who are here?

1596
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: Gay?

1597
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 3: Who just friendsh Let's find out? All right, y'all, let's.

1598
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 8: Uh, we're gonna get into the third episode, but I'm

1599
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 8: gonna play music for a second and get something to drink,

1600
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 8: all right.

1601
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: The last episode was thirty one thirty hundred Talking that

1602
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 2: talk rode around for us, says Hunter Biden could sit

1603
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 2: next to me at the cookout.

1604
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 3: He was me and I was him in that interview.

1605
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 2: Get this man a shot of alcohol free hennessy, he.

1606
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: Is welcome to the cookout. Him and his daddy.

1607
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 2: Don't charge him, you know, some Hennessy rate So Sean says, Wait,

1608
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: I thought it was Rod's job to hand out the past

1609
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: to the cookout all willy nilly.

1610
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just officially acknowledging they gonna be there.

1611
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: I guess they're gonna be there.

1612
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 2: Classic RB lover says when Karen said very black, she's

1613
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 2: very black. During that Guess the race segment, I nearly

1614
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 2: choked on the cherry I was eating, my thought being

1615
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: what the hell does that mean? I low key think

1616
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: that might be the most racist comment I've ever heard

1617
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: during the segment, and that includes the comments from the

1618
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: people in the chat.

1619
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: I agree. I was disgusted.

1620
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: I am disgusted. FYI.

1621
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure you know I meant this

1622
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: as a joke. The laughing moojis did not populate when

1623
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 2: my comment was saved. Yeah, for some reason, I couldn't

1624
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: do laughing emojis, but we knew it was a joke.

1625
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: Come on, Shoe Booty says point three blood alcohol. That's

1626
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: the drunkest I've ever heard of. She is not okay,

1627
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 2: Sean says originally from Wisconsin, so no stranger to the

1628
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: point three one squash that drunk himbo take fifteen minutes

1629
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 2: trying to get his Birken stop back on before walking off.

1630
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 2: A minute later he was driving buying a car. Apparently

1631
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 2: driving a car is less complex to the drunk than

1632
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: mine to the drunk line than driving. I hope he

1633
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: didn't kill anyone. For reference, blood alcohol point three to

1634
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 2: point four generally renders non Wisconsin nights unconscious. Point four

1635
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: higher can result in death. The high I've heard of

1636
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: his point six five who well they are superhero called

1637
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 2: alcohol man.

1638
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 3: How the fuck are you living with point sixty five?

1639
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: Your blood is straight alcohol? Right?

1640
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 3: That niggas blood was like forty proof.

1641
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: He was cutting himself and continue to be drunk, and

1642
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: it's just proof. He tapped his finger like it was

1643
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 2: like when you do a blood test and he just

1644
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: will sip on it as he was driving, like gotta

1645
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: keep staying drunk. IBB just says nothing says, nothing to

1646
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 2: see here better than sending Congress home for summer. Right,

1647
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: even he says with aut the shenanigans going on in

1648
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 2: the world, especially involving politics, even the white people. News

1649
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: hasn't been hitting like it has in the past. That's

1650
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: not saying I'm not enjoying it. I just think that

1651
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 2: white people seem to be going through it as lately

1652
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 2: as well. All these white celebs dropping dead, Ben Affleck

1653
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 2: trying to get that old thing back with the other

1654
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 2: Jennifer and they're saying enough himself a Jennifer Oni, and

1655
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 2: they're saying.

1656
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 3: Superman is two old. Phil Collins is in hospice, and

1657
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: they say King is sick. What do white people have

1658
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 3: to believe anymore? Praying for them? Right?

1659
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even know about the almost be the

1660
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 2: risk oft Yeah, I didn't know about the feel Collins thing.

1661
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: I feel bad for all the people that were stuck

1662
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: in traffic.

1663
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 3: Sean says. The idea about a survey of people who

1664
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 3: personally know.

1665
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: Members there what I'm just saying, people probably stuck in traffic.

1666
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: When you know they were.

1667
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: I feel so sorry for them. Isn't that what we

1668
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 3: were on?

1669
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,480
Speaker 1: Sean says, the idea of calculus empathy.

1670
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: The idea about the survey of people who personally know

1671
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 2: members of the LGBTQ community is interesting, but it reminded

1672
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: me of a discussion I had with a friend of

1673
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 2: university asked me if I know any LGBTQ people personally,

1674
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: because he's never met one. Meanwhile, two days prior, we

1675
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: had hung out with a group of friends, among who

1676
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 2: were there were two gay guys in a relationship, a

1677
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: lesbian and trans woman. It's a little different now, but

1678
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: back in the nineties and the odds coming out was

1679
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: very selective at that time. If you didn't have gay friends,

1680
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 2: it was actually more likely that you didn't know you

1681
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: had gay friends, because you are not seen as safe

1682
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: to tell.

1683
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 3: I agree, and it's still today.

1684
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,480
Speaker 1: It's not still not a simple or easy.

1685
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: Thing, right, right, But I think what he's saying is

1686
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 2: right though, that it has become more uh acceptable to

1687
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: be openly gay.

1688
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, okay, And even now there's.

1689
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 2: Gonna be people that I think do not know LGBTQ people.

1690
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: I agree, And especially once you get to the T

1691
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: the T of the alphabet. Once you get to the T,

1692
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: I feel like you're gonna know a lot. A lot

1693
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 2: of people are like, they don't think they know a

1694
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: trans person. Now they may know one that somehow has

1695
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 2: passed in their mind or whatever, but a lot of them,

1696
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: I think don't know. And this is why it's so

1697
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: easy to have no empathy and to dismiss.

1698
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: To see a political talking Yah, I see what you're

1699
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: coming now, Yes, yes, yes, like you said. And you

1700
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: know what allows that lowells and lawmakers and people you

1701
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: know honest feel like they have to run away.

1702
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: I honestly, truly do think.

1703
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: One of the main reasons I haven't been able to

1704
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: listen to a lot of political podcasts after the election,

1705
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: it's not just my upsetness about the losing the election

1706
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: and stuff, but it's the proposed remedies for the solutions

1707
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 2: to how to fix this party and to fix the

1708
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 2: system and to win. I'd say, I think I'm being

1709
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: generous seventy five percent, like I'm saying I'm being low

1710
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 2: I think it's probably higher than that. But I say,

1711
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 2: like seventy five percent of political podcasts that would call

1712
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: themselves left leaning definitely floated out some version of we

1713
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 2: just need to let these trans people let.

1714
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 3: This shit go. And I get it.

1715
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: I get why people think there's no like I'm just

1716
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:51,799
Speaker 2: being logical.

1717
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 3: I'm just saying some people don't like.

1718
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 2: Maybe we should let this go, and it's not just

1719
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,839
Speaker 2: your little like offshoot private podcast.

1720
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 3: Some of these people are you know, you know, Roma.

1721
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 2: Manuel and Gavin Newsome and you know, like names like

1722
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 2: people that are elected, and they're they're already floating the

1723
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,799
Speaker 2: idea like we should let this slide. In my mind,

1724
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: I can never separate it from imagine if after the

1725
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: pushback against Black Lives Matter, if I had to listen

1726
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 2: to a bunch of podcasts go, well, maybe we should

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01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: just let this black lives matter shit go.

1728
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1729
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 2: Trump won in twenty sixteen. A lot of that's because

1730
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 2: of Black Lives matter. Fucking let the cops kill them.

1731
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: We just want to win, and you can't be mad

1732
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 2: at us. We're just trying to win.

1733
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 3: Where else you're gonna go vote right, and then I'm

1734
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 3: supposed to sit there and not be offended.

1735
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: Right and sumotions and the way I think of it,

1736
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: When you do that, I know I'm on the agenda next.

1737
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: And then not only that, I know I was thought about,

1738
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: but because particularly on the Democratic Party, we play such

1739
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,520
Speaker 1: a large role, you knew that will be career suicide.

1740
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: So then you go to another selective group of people

1741
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: side like, oh, I know that. When you were looking

1742
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: you was like well, what can we do who can

1743
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: we blame? Well, we can't bring the blacks and were

1744
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: making people puts off the blacks. We're gonna be in trouble.

1745
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: Well then what out of all the people in our group,

1746
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: who is that? Who is the group of the people

1747
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: who we think that most people don't care about the

1748
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: most And that's how they came up with this group

1749
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: of people. But the thing is that group of people matters,

1750
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: and how you treat them well determine how you treat

1751
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: the rest of us. And people don't look at it

1752
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,520
Speaker 1: like that. How you treat the people that are forgotten,

1753
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: the people that are the poorest, the people that don't

1754
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: have when you start erasing social nets, how you treat

1755
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: those people who actually dictates and determines how you treat

1756
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: the rest of your populace. Because the thing is, like

1757
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: I said, a trick bag is everybody thinks that they

1758
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: are above being poor. Everybody thinks that they are above

1759
01:25:55,479 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: being homeless. Everybody thinks that they are above these things.

1760
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: You are not. You got you one medical bill from you,

1761
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: one a medical bill from your child, one parent going

1762
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: into a nursing home. That's all you need to lose

1763
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: everything you got. Americans are under the delusion that we

1764
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,799
Speaker 1: actually have more than we have. Like I said before,

1765
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: studies have shown most Americans, if you ask most Americans

1766
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: to scribe up five hundred dollars a thousand, two thousand

1767
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: dollars right now, they don't have it. Most Americans don't

1768
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: have savings account. Most Americans are in credit card debt.

1769
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: So when you look at that, these people that are

1770
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: already on the borderline anyway have the nerves and the

1771
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: audacity to look at people that they feel that are

1772
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: less than them. When you are one situation, you lose

1773
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: your job, you are one situation from living out of

1774
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: your car. And so I feel as though when you

1775
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: look at this, a lot of the people that people

1776
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: claim to care about following that group, because when you

1777
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: talk about trans trans people, a lot of homelessness, you know,

1778
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: mental illness, a lot of homelessness, vets, a lot of homelessness,

1779
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: you know when you look at it. So it's like, no,

1780
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,799
Speaker 1: I pay attention to how you treat these groups because

1781
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: I know I am not an exception to the rules,

1782
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: and I know if I lose my job now, I

1783
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: don't have any social nets. You know what I'm saying,

1784
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: if I happen to be come in a situation where

1785
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't have I need food, or I need help,

1786
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: they are purposely taking these things away, and people are

1787
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: under the illusion that they never need these services until

1788
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: they do.

1789
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 3: Yep.

1790
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: And I think it's it's interesting because our party is

1791
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 2: the party of the people who think they're the fucking heroes. Yes,

1792
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 2: but you don't get to be a hero and a coward.

1793
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: You either stand for this shit or you don't.

1794
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 3: Like that's it.

1795
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: It is what it is, and especially when you're biggest

1796
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 2: critique of the party in general is that it's not

1797
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 2: brave enough. And then the second that they lose, you're like, Okay,

1798
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 2: fucking throw the trans people in the trash, get them

1799
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: the fuck out of here, like you know, but but

1800
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 2: we're heroes, were inclusive. We're not like those Republicans, those racist,

1801
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 2: bullshit calculating motherfuckers.

1802
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 3: We're not like that at all. Anyway. Yeah, trans people,

1803
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,879
Speaker 3: can you shut the fuck up and get out of here? Anyway?

1804
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 3: Let's see was that the last comment?

1805
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the last one for the for the

1806
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: website oka right now to YouTube emoji's emojis, Damien says,

1807
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: hell yeah, Karen Hunter. Biden got it all the way in.

1808
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 2: He needs way more white people with that same and

1809
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 2: we need way more white people with that same energy.

1810
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 3: We're planning to turn this shit around. And yes, Rod's right,

1811
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 3: thanks damn you.

1812
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the side. You need more people, more white people,

1813
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: just like fuck them white people. We don't have enough

1814
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: white people. They will look another white person in their

1815
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: eye and say, fuck you, you're wrong. Too many of them,

1816
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: and I understand it because the relationship to loved ones

1817
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: that don't want to lose connections, and whatever the reason

1818
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: may be, they always talk themselves out. If more of

1819
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: them was like, fuck you, yes, you're white, I'm white too.

1820
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: You got white privileges. I got white privilege too with him, bitch,

1821
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: let's tussle it out. If more people, more white people,

1822
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: really had the energy, we would not be going through

1823
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: the bullshit we were going through.

1824
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, the social pressure shouldn't just flow one way right

1825
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 2: into making good people be silent, like it should also

1826
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 2: make bad people shut the fuck up.

1827
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 3: And it can if the good side wins. That's kind

1828
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 3: of what normally happens.

1829
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 2: Like it's not that the racism goes away, but it's

1830
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 2: like I don't know there were less nasy marches under Biden.

1831
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,879
Speaker 3: They're just just just facts.

1832
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 2: There's you know anyway, I won't get into it hate

1833
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 2: crimes like anyway.

1834
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 3: Dark Nwander says.

1835
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton supposedly in those files too, Hence the Republicans

1836
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 2: want to release the files. Trump wants the dj to

1837
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: redact his name from the files for their release.

1838
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:50,799
Speaker 3: Damien says, they're.

1839
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: Gonna need a lot of sharpies, don't They give him

1840
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 2: two separate designations, John Doe number something and it just ended.

1841
01:29:58,479 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this.

1842
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 2: Let me just put desire because I think I don't

1843
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: think there's a controversial opinion at all.

1844
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 3: But if Bill Clinton is in them files, I don't

1845
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 3: even fuck like then he should be castigated too.

1846
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: Like I think I saw a tweet that said this,

1847
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 2: but it was something to the effect of, like, oh, no,

1848
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton is in the Epstein files. I'm gonna have

1849
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: to get rid of my Bill Clinton hat, Bill Clinton shoes,

1850
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton NFTs, Bill Clinton bumper sticker, Like no, Like,

1851
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: politicians aren't my identity in that way. They are not

1852
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 2: like the He's not a mascot that I'm rooting for.

1853
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 2: I thought Bill Clinton's policies were better than whatever Republican

1854
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 2: necessarily would have done in his place. But there's no

1855
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 2: like brand loyalty of like well that didn't let the

1856
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 2: people get away with sexual assaulting kids.

1857
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 3: That's fine.

1858
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 2: No ramsy pH Dune says Robert Hunter Biden energy for

1859
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 2: the rest of the our motherfucking days. Lovely Day says, yes,

1860
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 2: please cut. I think it's to kt j A A

1861
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,440
Speaker 2: I mean j t k t j a jj.

1862
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 3: Okay, Hunter tell us why you really mad?

1863
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 2: Don't know if he is currently on anything, but he

1864
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:07,759
Speaker 2: got stuff to say.

1865
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 3: I love how everybody's like he might be on the crack.

1866
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: I don't is good crack talken and another another great one,

1867
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 2: Thank you Hugh Gordon's Thank you t KG. Hugh Gordon says,

1868
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 2: now we know why last year when hunter Byden testified

1869
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 2: in front of Congress, the Republicans force it to happen

1870
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 2: behind closed doors, that.

1871
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: That niggas ain't never spending the truth going on. They

1872
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 1: were like, no, we can't have his aird on on

1873
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: live national television.

1874
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 2: That way they could edit and shape his words for

1875
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 2: their performative partisan proclivities. Imagine that kind of enjury for

1876
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 2: six hours.

1877
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, but be federalized. They came out to him personally,

1878
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: went after him like he he feels a certain way,

1879
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: like he don't have the luxury of some of these

1880
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: other people that didn't have a federal government on their asses.

1881
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 1: So he's like, no, fuck them. Uh.

1882
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 3: Kim Dock says, Uh. The booze for yes, the race

1883
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 3: always sound like an angry white mob. Where's that sound from?

1884
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 3: I can tell you it's on the Spotify.

1885
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 2: List called Crowd Booing and Hissing from Pro Sound Effects

1886
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 2: Library on the outset on the album called one hundred

1887
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 2: Human Sounds, Sneeze the Screens, snores and more.

1888
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

1889
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 2: Jason Jasper says, for some reason, that story about Trump

1890
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 2: still in the team's trophy got me extra heated, just

1891
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 2: the fact that he brought himself on stage during their

1892
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 2: moment to get some residual applause.

1893
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 3: It's shameless.

1894
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 2: Look, clearly, he's beloved at UFC, so he wants to

1895
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 2: go there fine, But anywhere else he's just ruining people's time.

1896
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 2: Shout out to Hunter b Hunter was hunting. He sounded like, Biggie,

1897
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:39,919
Speaker 2: This goes.

1898
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 3: Out to you and you and you and you.

1899
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 2: I literally thought of caring the first time I heard

1900
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 2: him caring and Hunter as Joe's PR squad could have

1901
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: changed the course of.

1902
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 3: History, and it wasn't in the clip you played.

1903
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 2: But he was also very complimentary of kamalas so he

1904
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 2: stuck the landing.

1905
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.

1906
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 2: I didn't want to play the whole five minutes, but yeah,

1907
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 2: I did see it.

1908
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 3: And yeah, And.

1909
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 2: One of the things that I find fascinating is how

1910
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 2: little we really seem to actually know, and we're just

1911
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 2: taking a lot of unofficial word for what must happen

1912
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, and everyone's biases are playing out because

1913
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 2: I think you can use context clues and kind of

1914
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 2: see like some of the way things played out and

1915
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: been like, well, that probably wasn't true. But I can't

1916
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 2: get people to people can't see past how they already feel.

1917
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 2: So like there are people that are like Obama stabbed

1918
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Joe in the back and he didn't want Kamala. It's like, well,

1919
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 2: that seemed just from the way he campaigned for her,

1920
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 2: the way the call they released where he called her

1921
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 2: almost immediately after Joe named her, doesn't really seem like

1922
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 2: that's what happened. But if you already hate the Obama's

1923
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 2: or think they are phoni like, of course you're gonna

1924
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 2: say that, yeah, And then all the Jake Tapper shit

1925
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 2: is so anonymous, and I don't know how you really

1926
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 2: report on that people with inside knowledge like Hunter, and

1927
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure other people in that Biden family for the

1928
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 2: most part, are going to be too classy to come

1929
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 2: out and say much.

1930
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: Again, a lot of shit we probably never know.

1931
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 2: And we want to believe the most negative version, so

1932
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 2: like people really want to believe he was like in

1933
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 2: there stumbling and bumbling and slobbry and shit. So I

1934
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,759
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm and I don't think we'll ever really

1935
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 2: truly know. It's just how how do you feel versus

1936
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 2: what you think must have happened?

1937
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 3: And that's it. How finally, I'm starting to think maybe to.

1938
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 2: Take out the guards means something different than McDonald's language,

1939
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 2: because clearly that phase has.

1940
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 3: Sparked that phrase. It sparked a lot of drama in

1941
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 3: those arches. It has.

1942
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 2: The poem was, was Hunter Byden spitting to you? Yes,

1943
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 2: ninety percent of the audience says he was spitting.

1944
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: To them, and even talking about language that means n

1945
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: percent of y'all did not think he was spitting, which,

1946
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: all right, I hope you'll, I hope you'll feel like

1947
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 1: he should have went hard or something. I hope I

1948
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: don't think he should have backed up, because if not,

1949
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: we're gonna have problems.

1950
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 2: He should have been like Roight calling the motherfuckers. All right, y'all,

1951
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: let's get into the voicemails. And then we got one email. Uh,

1952
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 2: let me play a beat so I might put commercials here.

1953
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Why did you Why did you kill that dog?

1954
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 4: They're eating the eating this eating dog, they're eating the eating, this,

1955
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 4: eating that.

1956
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 3: I don't even remember this beat.

1957
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 2: Trump killed my dog is what it's called. I don't

1958
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: know who is by someone said it.

1959
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: All right, let's get we made that comment.

1960
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 2: So these voicemail oh, I'm sure they send it win,

1961
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 2: but I just don't remember who and why.

1962
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 3: But anyway, here's the voicemails.

1963
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 5: Y'all.

1964
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 7: It's Marissa. I'm calling in because I was listening to

1965
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 7: the episode today which also about Country Bride stuff, which

1966
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 7: I live, and I'm just so curious, like, Okay, do

1967
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 7: y'all really think that the Epstein files, like the files themselves,

1968
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 7: actually exists, because I kind of feel like they don't.

1969
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 7: I kind of go back and forth, and I'm trying

1970
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 7: to understand why the Republicans and.

1971
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 1: His supporters they can't hear it.

1972
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 2: My bad, guys, I forgot ship. Okay, give me a second. Sorry,

1973
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 2: I forgot. I'm in a different browser and don't.

1974
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 3: Let y'all hear by default, which is ridiculous. But give

1975
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 3: me a second. It's Marissa, and it's only a short voicemail,

1976
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 3: so it shouldn't be long that hard to restart it

1977
01:36:55,160 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 3: ahead and let me know if y'all can hear it now.

1978
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:06,600
Speaker 7: Hey, y'all, it's Marissa. I'm calling in because I was

1979
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 7: listening to the episode today which also was about Punch

1980
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 7: of Bride stuff, which I live.

1981
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 3: Okay, could y'all hear that?

1982
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 1: Yes?

1983
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 3: Okay?

1984
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 7: And I'm just so curious, like, Okay, do y'all really

1985
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 7: think that the Epstein files, like the files themselves actually exist,

1986
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 7: because I kind of feel like they don't. I kind

1987
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 7: of go back and forth, and I'm trying to understand

1988
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 7: why the Republicans and his supporters are all like up

1989
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 7: in arms about all of this shit when literally every

1990
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 7: new piece of like damning evidence is coming out is

1991
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 7: like shit that we've been known like the last three

1992
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 7: times this motherfucker ran for president, And so I'm like,

1993
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 7: do the shit even exist or was it just a

1994
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 7: skin from the beginning? And now Trump is second to lie?

1995
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 7: But then why do his people give a fuck when

1996
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,839
Speaker 7: they never gave a fuck before? Are they just upset

1997
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 7: about the economy and all the other shit? But the

1998
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 7: kind of like get out all of that energy on

1999
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 7: this Epsteine shit. It don't make no sense to me.

2000
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 7: It makes no sense to me. And I also feel

2001
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 7: like during the last election, if there were these like

2002
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 7: Ebsteine files or whatever that had incriminated.

2003
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 3: Shit about Trump, I feel like the ship.

2004
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 7: Would have bleeped. I don't know, but anyways, I was

2005
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 7: just calling because I wanted to know, like, do y'all

2006
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 7: think these ships really exists? And who? Why do you

2007
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 7: think his supporters give a fuck now when they've never

2008
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 7: cared before? Anyways, So love y'all, love a show.

2009
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 2: I'll be listening in.

2010
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, I mean I think they exist.

2011
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of obvious they must exist, because

2012
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 2: who the fuck fights this hard against some ship that

2013
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 2: don't exist?

2014
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 1: A whole less woman in jail right now because of

2015
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: this ship.

2016
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen like excerpts and pictures and ship and

2017
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 3: like there's this's documented our investigation. They already released released

2018
01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:59,959
Speaker 3: that one that one.

2019
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: Letter Trump wrote him with the that that he drew

2020
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 2: like a woman's outline with pubic hair on and ship like, So, no,

2021
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 2: it exists. I'm more surprised people care, right, you know,

2022
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 2: because it just didn't seem like I don't know what

2023
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 2: mag of people care about.

2024
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 1: What they don't, right, And it's all over the place.

2025
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: And the biggest reason why a lot of this ship

2026
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:28,600
Speaker 1: is not fully coming out is because the Republicans. The

2027
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,679
Speaker 1: Republicans are very obstruction It's like not the mask.

2028
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 2: But why would they be obstructing something if it didn't exist, right,

2029
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

2030
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 3: And also I think they would say it don't exist.

2031
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 2: I think they would preferred if it did not exist

2032
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 2: and they could make it go away. They would prefer

2033
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 2: to be like, you guys are tripping over nothing. This

2034
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: ship doesn't even exist. I don't even know what you're

2035
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 2: talking about.

2036
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: It exists because they are. They are trying to hook

2037
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: a just so he.

2038
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 3: Was on trial, he was gonna go on trial. He

2039
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 3: killed himself. Jili Max Jillie Gi.

2040
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Maxwell is in jail now, it's not in there

2041
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 2: because there wasn't enough evidence. So yeah, I think it exists.

2042
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm more perplexed as to why they give a fuck.

2043
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 2: Why has this man has been convicted in a court

2044
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 2: of sexual harassment and sexual improprieties, but.

2045
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 3: He's in many pictures with Epstein.

2046
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 2: It's now this is this is the deal breaking for

2047
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 2: y'all or maybe this m I guess my conspiracy not conspiracy.

2048
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 3: My leaning is.

2049
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 2: Maybe they see how bad his policies are being received

2050
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 2: by so many people, and now this is the chance

2051
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 2: to jump ship, like you didn't know, Like this is

2052
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 2: the convenient off ramp of like well there's Epstein.

2053
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,680
Speaker 3: I mean I could. I can't go that far.

2054
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, so this is your way of being

2055
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 2: like get out of jail free. Like oh yeah, when

2056
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: it was the immigrants and when it was this and

2057
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 2: when it was that, that's different. But this is Epstein. Shit, man,

2058
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm not with any of it now, right we

2059
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 2: all agree?

2060
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 3: Anyway?

2061
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 5: Uh?

2062
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 3: In Mon left the last voicemail, Hey.

2063
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 5: Rod, Hey Karen, this is Inmon. I was calling because

2064
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 5: I just want to thank y'aut for I'm still listening

2065
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 5: to the feedback episodes, but for I just had to

2066
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 5: stop in calling about the part where you said that

2067
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 5: direction is not an attack. And I think that's so important,

2068
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 5: especially in this same time where so many people are

2069
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 5: just like living online. And of course I can't understand

2070
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 5: people's tone and voice, but at least in text, when

2071
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 5: they're correcting you or asking you a question, they also

2072
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 5: questioning someone's point of view or there or how they're

2073
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 5: thinking about something isn't necessarily also an attack or or

2074
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 5: I said us, or anything, especially between two loving people

2075
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 5: or between a family. And this is something I've been

2076
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 5: trying to to really chuse to try to have my

2077
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 5: daughter who's now fourteen, understand if I correct her or

2078
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 5: remind her or about anything, I'm like, I'm not attacking you,

2079
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 5: I'm not chastising you. I love you, like Dad reminds

2080
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 5: me of stuff. It's like we correct each other about things.

2081
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 5: If I ask her where she got information from, it's

2082
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 5: because I'm just trying to understand where where where your

2083
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,719
Speaker 5: mindset is. And and then it does, like you said,

2084
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 5: it helps the audience because we might be thinking about

2085
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 5: something that y'all are talking about in the way Karen

2086
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 5: is thinking about it, like you're having to tell her, no,

2087
01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about.

2088
01:42:58,479 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: It this way.

2089
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 5: So I just really appreciate you to listen to that.

2090
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 3: So we'll see.

2091
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 5: Uh. But yeah, thank you for that. I think it

2092
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 5: was really important. I love y'all.

2093
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Thank you you do.

2094
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is important, and I think, especially

2095
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:26,600
Speaker 2: now in this climate, because critical thinking and being a

2096
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 2: little bit more inquisitive is it needs to be modeled

2097
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 2: to people and it needs to become a bigger part

2098
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 2: of our focus as people that pass on information each other.

2099
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 3: I do this all the time with my friends.

2100
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 2: Like, sometimes I worry about my friendships, not because I

2101
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 2: think I'm a bad friend, but because like, uh, I

2102
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 2: can only be friends with a certain type of person.

2103
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 2: Like if my like and my friends know this, and

2104
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 2: they I'm sure sometimes it's inconvenience, sometimes it's welcome. But

2105
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 2: I'm the guy who's like, all right, explain this further

2106
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 2: than just you saw TikTok video or you know, like

2107
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 2: the other day, my one of my friends was like,

2108
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 2: I have a conspiracy about what's happening to hip hop

2109
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 2: and with Drake and blah blah blah. And then as

2110
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 2: she started talking it out. She because I said conspiracy.

2111
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 3: Y'all know me. I ain't a conspiracy guy. Really. I

2112
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 3: like conspiracies A lot of people think are fun.

2113
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 2: I think conspiracies have become one of the most dangerous

2114
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:34,719
Speaker 2: damaging things in society in the advent and the Internet.

2115
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 2: I think it literally, uh, Pizzagate, the coronavirus, vaccine, Januard

2116
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 2: six Q or not. I really think it's dangerous. I

2117
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 2: have a trigger of Uh. It definitely bothers me to

2118
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 2: hear people that I respect truck in conspiracy like and

2119
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 2: I know it probably makes me feel like an asshole

2120
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 2: to them that they're like, look at this guy, he's

2121
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 2: been a jerk. I don't allow people to play around

2122
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 2: like that.

2123
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 3: Like, I need you.

2124
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 2: We need to be having a conversation that is based

2125
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 2: in reality.

2126
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:11,719
Speaker 1: In real reality.

2127
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:12,719
Speaker 3: Yes, if it's.

2128
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 2: Gonna be conspiratorial, I'm probably gonna opt out of the

2129
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 2: conversation because I think it's a very slippery slope and

2130
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 2: it don't take long. It doesn't take long. It doesn't

2131
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 2: mean there's no conspiracy. It doesn't mean there's nothing to consider.

2132
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:29,719
Speaker 2: It doesn't but like, let's let's not just throw everything

2133
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 2: in there, you know, I've never was a Illuminati guy.

2134
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 2: I was never that guy. And I don't find it

2135
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 2: fun in the way that people think it's fun.

2136
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:38,759
Speaker 3: I don't. I think it's actually very dangerous anyway.

2137
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 2: So she starts explaining it, and then she's like, oh, actually,

2138
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 2: because I listened to what she explained, I said, Oh,

2139
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 2: I don't think what you're describing as a conspiracy, but

2140
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 2: it does feel like a conflagration of events that led

2141
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 2: to these circumstances, led to a certain outcome, and I

2142
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 2: do agree with that. I feel like that's what happened,

2143
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 2: and it was it was essentially like all these old

2144
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 2: rappers are coming back because as a vacuum left and

2145
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 2: hip hop by the absence of Drake.

2146
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, yeah.

2147
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 2: Now that I think about it, I don't. I didn't

2148
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 2: even mean to use the word conspiracy. It's what you're saying,

2149
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:14,839
Speaker 2: like it was not, because conspiracy implies like the powers

2150
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:18,560
Speaker 2: that be decided to get Drake, and that's what Drake's

2151
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 2: some of his more ardent bot fan online people they've

2152
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 2: tried to be like Kendrick Lamar was used in a

2153
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 2: conspiracy to.

2154
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 3: Destroy Drake because what why?

2155
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: And so she and I'm like, we have to be

2156
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 2: careful because I don't even want to entertain that because

2157
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 2: once you start framing it that way, it makes them

2158
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:38,759
Speaker 2: seem valid, and they're not valid.

2159
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 3: In my opinion, that's not what happened.

2160
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 2: Uh, there was not the powers that be taking Drake out,

2161
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 2: And we need to stop talking like that when that's

2162
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 2: not what it was.

2163
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, so my.

2164
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 2: Point being like, that's a clarification, that's a challenge, that's

2165
01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 2: a disagreement.

2166
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 3: Some people. People can't even be friends with someone that

2167
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 3: did what I just did.

2168
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 2: That was like, Hey, I'm like, I would not call

2169
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 2: it this as a conspiracy.

2170
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 3: I would say this. They would they like, fuck Rod,

2171
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 3: he fuck him, he don't get me. Whatever. But I

2172
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 3: have to have that in my friendships and vice versa.

2173
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 2: If my friend, if I were to talk that way,

2174
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 2: my friend would be like, Rod, that's not a conspiracy.

2175
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 3: You showed up at the DMV late, that's what happened.

2176
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you for checking me. Appreciate you. You're right,

2177
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 2: I was spiraling out.

2178
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 1: For a second.

2179
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:34,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nothing. Yeah, it's not the end of the world.

2180
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 3: All right.

2181
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 2: Emails, we got one, John says, morning Rod and Karen Hunter,

2182
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 2: Biden is slinging some big dick energy with those no

2183
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 2: fucks left to give, and I'm here for it. There's

2184
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 2: another clip, I'm guessing in the five minute when Rod

2185
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 2: mentioned where Hunter breaks down which segment of our coalition

2186
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 2: still with his dad and which one threw him under

2187
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,719
Speaker 2: the bus. He explains how after the debate, Joe Clear

2188
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 2: numerous hurdles, did multiple appearances, speeches, and interviews and looked fine,

2189
01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 2: just fine, getting a standing ovation from the NAACP, a

2190
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 2: foe throwed endorsement from the CBC, but white progressive pundits

2191
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 2: celebrity assholes were like, nope, too late and just continued

2192
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 2: to double down or pushing out the most effective president

2193
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 2: of my lifetime because they never liked them.

2194
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 1: Right.

2195
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 3: It really is that easy to me.

2196
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 2: And I know there's well meaning white people that will

2197
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 2: think that's not what happened to me. I think that

2198
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 2: is what happened to you. And there's never gonna be

2199
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 2: any we don't even need to discuss it, because there's

2200
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 2: never gonna be a thing you can say that would

2201
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 2: change my mind.

2202
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 1: And the reason why they never wanted him is because

2203
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 1: when it was time, when it was time, to pick

2204
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 1: everything underneath the moon ran when Joe Bidy ran people,

2205
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 1: because that's the thing. The people determined this. People rejected

2206
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 1: them all. They couldn't get enough votes, they didn't have

2207
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 1: enough money, whatever, so they all started dropping off. And

2208
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 1: people never liked Joe from the beginning. And when black people,

2209
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: particularly down South, endorsed him and he won, instead of

2210
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 1: them just accepting what had happened, they turned around and

2211
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 1: they called black people stupid, dumb, and un educated. How

2212
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: dare you picked this white man because they never wanted

2213
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:01,839
Speaker 1: him in the first place.

2214
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think.

2215
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 2: One of the things that is very interesting, and it's

2216
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:14,759
Speaker 2: it's why it's kind of difficult to have white friends,

2217
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 2: because like it's hard to have real talk with them

2218
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 2: that isn't about making them feel bad, but it is

2219
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:25,560
Speaker 2: the truth.

2220
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 3: As you see it.

2221
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 2: And they they don't understand the amount of privilege they

2222
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 2: live within the world, because I mean, come on, they're

2223
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 2: not reading books about it, they're not watching TV shows.

2224
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 2: They're like they're and why would they if it's gonna

2225
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 2: make them feel bad?

2226
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 3: Right, So.

2227
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 2: There's like always a bit of a barrier because shit

2228
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 2: that I can say with other people, I can't.

2229
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to start World War three. So I

2230
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 3: was just like, stop. But they're well meaning white people.

2231
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm not calling them evil, bad, not call them racist

2232
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 2: any loaded terms. It's not that's I would sect what

2233
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 2: this conversation is about. But they benefit from a certain

2234
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 2: level of privilege to where if I like a black

2235
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 2: TV show and they don't in their minds, I like

2236
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 2: it because it's black, and I'm defending a show that

2237
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 2: I know is bad because I'm black, and I don't

2238
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 2: want people to not like the black show. You see

2239
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. They can't their mind can't compute. Maybe

2240
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 2: you don't like it because it's black. Maybe it's not

2241
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 2: of your culture or not for you. Maybe you just

2242
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 2: don't understand it. Maybe it turned you off just because

2243
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 2: it was different from everything that is catered to you

2244
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 2: in every other way. It could be that. Now it

2245
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 2: could be a bad show too.

2246
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 3: Let's not rule that out.

2247
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 2: But if you typically respect my opinion, you typically understand

2248
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 2: my logic and stuff, Suddenly when we disagree, it becomes oh,

2249
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 2: because you're black. Right now, that's not an invalid thing

2250
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 2: to think or say, because sometimes that is true.

2251
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 3: Like there are things I'm sure.

2252
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 2: That I'm more defensive of because I'm a black person

2253
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 2: and I feel some type of society pressure.

2254
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 3: But where would that societal pressure come from?

2255
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 5: Right?

2256
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,759
Speaker 2: Why am I feeling that society pressure. I'm not living

2257
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 2: in an equal society where everything is being treated fairly,

2258
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 2: so even that pressure that defense.

2259
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, well let me pause this.

2260
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 2: All right, So we just had technical difficulties and I

2261
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 2: may have lost a little bit of track where I was.

2262
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 2: But my point is whiteness does not consider normally the

2263
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 2: amount of privilege they navigate the world with, so they

2264
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:44,679
Speaker 2: don't necessarily they think bias exists on one side basically only,

2265
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 2: and that when bias exists in white people, it's just

2266
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 2: like the racist, like virulent type of bias, and not

2267
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 2: just the like I'm cross the street when I saw

2268
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 2: a group of black guys, or I uh, I.

2269
01:51:58,280 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 3: Just don't like movies.

2270
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 2: Like it's when people that review movies somehow just don't

2271
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 2: see any of the black movies. But they go, I

2272
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 2: see all the movies, but you didn't see the black movies,

2273
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 2: so you don't see all the movies. It's I'm not

2274
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 2: calling you a racist. I'm not saying you're doing it

2275
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,919
Speaker 2: on purpose. These are just biases. These are blind spots.

2276
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 2: When I have them, we make it, we make fun

2277
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 2: of it. When I'm like, I didn't see that movie

2278
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 2: it's too white, it's because it's not. There's not the

2279
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 2: negative connotation society societally with I didn't see a movie

2280
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 2: because it was directed by Wes Anderson and it's too

2281
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 2: white for me.

2282
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 3: No, no one's gonna like come at me for that.

2283
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 3: But if a white.

2284
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,679
Speaker 2: Person were to say, I didn't see this black Spike

2285
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 2: Lee movie it's too black for me, we would be

2286
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,640
Speaker 2: like you, piece of racist shit. So there's this undercurrent

2287
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 2: they can't ever admit to. Politically that also happens. Yes,

2288
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:49,719
Speaker 2: that's my point. So they don't think aligning against Biden

2289
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 2: was ever about anything racial. Like they don't see it

2290
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 2: as like, like you said, black people pick this candidate.

2291
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:58,759
Speaker 3: I preferred all these other people.

2292
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 2: You know, Bernie was my guy, and he doesn't really

2293
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: talk about race. But to me, that's not why I'm

2294
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 2: voting for him, because they don't know subconsciously his message

2295
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 2: is crafted to not talk about race. So you just

2296
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 2: get angry about rich people, yep. And then and then

2297
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 2: we don't have to discuss anything further than that, and

2298
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 2: we having to live in this.

2299
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 3: World, we have to see it. That's how we survived.

2300
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 1: Yep, that's how we survived.

2301
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 2: So I think that is why like someone like Hunter

2302
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 2: Biden like calling that shit out and like not running

2303
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 2: away from like, hey, it was black people that picked him,

2304
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 2: and black people that still beside him.

2305
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 3: They can't see it.

2306
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 2: They just think and all those black people were wrong,

2307
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 2: and they thought we were. They just and they didn't

2308
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 2: even understand that our reticence for moving Biden was never

2309
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 2: about any other candidate. Like it wasn't like because we

2310
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 2: hate Kamala. We were like, if your goal is to

2311
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 2: make Kamla president, which is fine with us, yes you

2312
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 2: should still vote for Biden.

2313
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 3: Because if you're.

2314
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 2: Saying he's infirmed and he's not going to be able

2315
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 2: to live out the presidency, guess who's the president after that?

2316
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 3: Com last?

2317
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 2: So like like we I don't see the downside you're

2318
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 2: talking about. It's only it's only the fact that y'all

2319
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 2: think there's this other better version, because I think, truly,

2320
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is probably the Captain America of white politicians.

2321
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 3: And I don't say that in jest.

2322
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 2: I think that he's a good, honorable man who genuinely

2323
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 2: believed in and stood for all this shit, who stood

2324
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 2: after he made mistakes, stood around, didn't run away, didn't

2325
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 2: blame the black people, didn't stop, stopped communicating with us,

2326
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: came back to our communities, stood in our face and said, yeah,

2327
01:54:58,240 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 2: I fucked that one up.

2328
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 3: I won't do that again. Help me, help you, how

2329
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 3: can I make it better? And I think.

2330
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 2: White people will never truly understand that relationship he had

2331
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 2: with black voters.

2332
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 3: And now that.

2333
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 2: It's July twenty twenty five and he's still alive, still

2334
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 2: doing interviews, still out here, this whole like he's a bumbling,

2335
01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 2: stumbling elder abuse victim. It has not come to fruition yet,

2336
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: And none of these motherfuckers will ever go, we.

2337
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 3: Got that one wrong, guys. And I think that's what

2338
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 3: will bother a lot of us till the day we die,

2339
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 3: is that with me.

2340
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 2: And the reason I don't think it's about them holding

2341
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 2: out on us.

2342
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 3: I truly think.

2343
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 2: They lack the capacity to say we called this wrong.

2344
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 2: They just think, no, he had a bad debate, and

2345
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 2: it's because he was a senile or something like. They

2346
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 2: don't have anything. They can't they can't accept maybe we

2347
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 2: called this one wrong, like not that that he didn't

2348
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 2: have a bad debate, he died. They can't. They can't

2349
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 2: understand that the reason you really lose is you blank.

2350
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 2: Meaning if Donald Trump, Donald Trump had nothing but bad debates, right,

2351
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 2: no one's ever going to not support him, right, And

2352
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 2: that's why that's how you win.

2353
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 3: It's not the other way around.

2354
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 2: He doesn't say the way that people believe in politics

2355
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 2: is opposite. They think it's a singular figure at the

2356
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 2: top puts a certain type of demand on society and

2357
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 2: we all get behind it, and it's the opposite society

2358
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 2: demands up meaning I'm so racist, I don't care that

2359
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 2: you're a fucking pedophile.

2360
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 3: I'm voting for you.

2361
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 1: That's how it works.

2362
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 2: We don't have that saying wherewithal on the other side,

2363
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 2: where it's like I am so pro whatever the thought,

2364
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 2: cause I am, I don't care that you're uh you

2365
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 2: lost a debate.

2366
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 3: It just does not matter to me.

2367
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 1: It didn't me.

2368
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I know, I know, yeah, I get it.

2369
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 2: Uh So, I you know, I think that's why a

2370
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 2: lot of us resonated with Hunter, and a lot of

2371
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 2: I think white people are gonna either brush it off,

2372
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 2: pretend it doesn't exist at call them a crackhead whatever,

2373
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 2: but they're not gonna be like, nah, man, that's the

2374
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 2: right energy, and he's right.

2375
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 3: We owe Biden in apology.

2376
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 1: And also it's one of those things where I think

2377
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 1: because of that, a lot of white people were very

2378
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 1: confused by a lot of the black people's backlash when

2379
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 1: Biden stepped down, and a lot of their backlash even

2380
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 1: more when coming to lost like like like like, I

2381
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 1: think for them, they had a lot of confusion, like

2382
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 1: they they didn't they didn't understand why black people are

2383
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 1: so angry, so mad, so upset, and a lot of

2384
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 1: them was very distraught, you know, because guess what they

2385
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 1: had to be around all these angry and upset and

2386
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and bitter black people

2387
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 1: like like like and all like. They had to continue

2388
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 1: to work with them, and they're still all working with them,

2389
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 1: and they're still confused as to why a lot of

2390
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 1: them feel certain ways and like people, you know, their

2391
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 1: people were working through through through these emotions and they're

2392
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 1: not as intense as they were when uh uh after

2393
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: the election. But it doesn't mean that anger is it

2394
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 1: won't always be there, and they don't understand for some

2395
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 1: of why some of their friendships and relationships with some

2396
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 1: of these black people changed and or ended because of this,

2397
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of them are very adamant

2398
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 1: about Joe Biden stepping down. They're very adamant about anybody

2399
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 1: but common and all this stuff. And so you know,

2400
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 1: once you get the results, people feel justified. Like you say,

2401
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 1: results equal justification. People feel justified in their anger and

2402
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 1: and and and and and they was like, oh, okay,

2403
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,800
Speaker 1: I see what's happening. Obviously, even if they're not part

2404
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:54,879
Speaker 1: of the problem, you become part of the problem.

2405
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of us said, and I

2406
01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 2: mean I know, I said, ad nauseam, I don't have

2407
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 2: a problem. Moving on to Kamala Harris. I think y'all

2408
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 2: do like, I'm gonna do the right thing. I don't

2409
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 2: trust white people to come through and be like, Okay,

2410
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 2: it's no longer a white man that's running, I'm gonna

2411
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 2: go ahead and vote for it.

2412
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 3: And they didn't.

2413
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 2: And to me, that's the fundamental problem, and it's gonna

2414
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 2: always be the problem.

2415
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 3: And the fact.

2416
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 2: That I knew that and you didn't and yet there's

2417
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 2: no acknowledgment of that feels like it's just gonna continue

2418
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 2: to be repeated.

2419
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm gonna talk to what Greg said, and

2420
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 1: when I said that, I'm talking about people that are

2421
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 1: actually in the U say what he said, it says,

2422
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they were considering black people's reactions. I'm

2423
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 1: talking about people that were in political circles, right, like

2424
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 1: that actually have to interact with us, that actually have

2425
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 1: to have conversations with us, that we have meetings with.

2426
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that particular group, people that were deep

2427
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 1: in these polls, like like like those people, people that

2428
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:57,160
Speaker 1: were running for office, like those people yes and mass No,

2429
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 1: they don't consider us, but people that have to actually

2430
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 1: interaction because if you that's your funny, if you are

2431
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 1: a Democrat, you're gonna have to interact with black and

2432
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 1: brown and others. You're gonna have to because because we

2433
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 1: run this bitch, regardless of how they feel, we just

2434
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 1: run it. And so particularly when it comes to voting

2435
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 1: and political things. So I think they have to consider

2436
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 1: what we think back like it's not an option, And

2437
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot of them are confused by some of the

2438
02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:21,760
Speaker 1: reactions and how we're responding and how we're cutting off

2439
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever we mean, because a lot of people

2440
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 1: are very very angry. That's a group of people I'm

2441
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 1: talking about. I do understand what you're saying. You know,

2442
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 1: in mass is no but in them political circles they

2443
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 1: have to interact with that.

2444
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:33,920
Speaker 2: I think, And I think it's like two things happening

2445
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:37,400
Speaker 2: at once. Right, they disregarded us, and at the same time,

2446
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 2: like you said, they can't. I know that they care

2447
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 2: because you do see that sentiment around of like, wow,

2448
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 2: notice that the black people aren't really doing as much

2449
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 2: as they were. What are black people gonna do politically now?

2450
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 2: And all this shit and it's like, hmm, it seemed

2451
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 2: like y'all really were used to that black support and

2452
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 2: it's not just popping right back up like you thought

2453
02:00:57,200 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 2: it would. It's not inspired off of this law. Yeah,

2454
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 2: and it's especially black women.

2455
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the same, you know, because we've lost.

2456
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:09,560
Speaker 1: We've lost before, and before people kind of dust themselves

2457
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 1: off and shake off and be like, hey, let's go.

2458
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:15,320
Speaker 1: And now people are coming back, but it ain't at

2459
02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:17,880
Speaker 1: the same pace and it's not at the same rate,

2460
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 1: and people are like, I need a break and they're like, uh,

2461
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,720
Speaker 1: ain't it business as usual? And people gonna know this

2462
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 1: time it ain't business as usual.

2463
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:28,240
Speaker 2: Because he has a study, it couldn't magically circumvent Congress

2464
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:31,160
Speaker 2: and Scots the past magic legislation, especially because he would

2465
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 2: Bernie's ass in twenty twenty and still with black people anyways,

2466
02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 2: I would never stop being mad about that shit, especially

2467
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:38,920
Speaker 2: from people who were all listening to black people during

2468
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 2: the George Floyd but refuse to do so when it

2469
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 2: actually mattered. So I'm glad Hunter is correcting the record.

2470
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 2: I was thinking last night that one of the big

2471
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 2: problems in politics that so many people on our side

2472
02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 2: don't actually respect the work of our politicians. Them's getting

2473
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 2: no credit for the good stuff they accomplish, the harms

2474
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:57,040
Speaker 2: that they mitigate. See guys, where Biden's pressure actually staved

2475
02:01:57,040 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 2: off the open policies of ethnic cleansing from Israel hard

2476
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 2: right that are now going forward because Trump doesn't care

2477
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 2: fuck the uncommitted assholes to eternity or even just the

2478
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 2: amount of character it takes to be a public servant,

2479
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 2: only to be constantly shipped on.

2480
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,120
Speaker 3: See all the libelous smears Hillary.

2481
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 2: Obama and Biden Kamala have had thrown at them for decades. Anyway,

2482
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 2: piss me off that so many people in our own

2483
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:22,040
Speaker 2: coalition don't really believe in the good governess they claim

2484
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 2: to want. Sorry for the long run, I haven't had

2485
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 2: much time to time and recently do the busy work

2486
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 2: in life and in general.

2487
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 3: But I'm still listening when I can. Love y'all.

2488
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 2: John, Thanks John, appreciate you, and yeah, man, you know

2489
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 2: I get it. Like I said, I I don't think

2490
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:45,000
Speaker 2: there's anything that can be furthered by even having conversation

2491
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:47,360
Speaker 2: about it. I don't think this is a divide that

2492
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 2: can be bridged because I don't think it's a divide

2493
02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 2: that many people recognizing themselves.

2494
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 3: I think it would just take moral and.

2495
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:07,160
Speaker 2: Philosophical wanting to be better people from white people who

2496
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:10,240
Speaker 2: are already like good, you.

2497
02:03:10,160 --> 02:03:10,720
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

2498
02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:14,040
Speaker 2: Like people keep trying to turn this into an argument

2499
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:17,480
Speaker 2: about turning some racist assholes to the left or something.

2500
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's feasible.

2501
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 2: But I think even harder than that is getting a

2502
02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 2: white person who's like, hey, I'm typically not a racist person.

2503
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:31,200
Speaker 3: I want good things. I vote Democrat.

2504
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 2: I think you know, like getting that person to go

2505
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 2: that's not good enough, I need to be better is

2506
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 2: much more difficult, I think in many ways, because how

2507
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:43,880
Speaker 2: do you do it without one their feelings taken over

2508
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 2: and being like I feel bad. I don't like being

2509
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 2: talked to like this. How do you do it in

2510
02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:50,600
Speaker 2: a way where they would stop and recognize, like, shit,

2511
02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:53,480
Speaker 2: that is me, you know what I mean, Like like,

2512
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:55,680
Speaker 2: oh damn, I was one of them people that just thought.

2513
02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 2: And the main thing that we would be trying to

2514
02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:01,920
Speaker 2: convince them of is probably one of the most inconvenient things,

2515
02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:04,880
Speaker 2: which is not that they're necessarily a bad person. Many

2516
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:06,720
Speaker 2: of them did the right thing, they voted the right way,

2517
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 2: but telling them, like dog, you can't believe in your

2518
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 2: fellow white people in the way that you do. You

2519
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 2: might talk about this later on in the week, but

2520
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 2: everyone's been really happy about the South Park episode about Trump,

2521
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:25,280
Speaker 2: and I watched it, and it's like the most white

2522
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:27,840
Speaker 2: boy humor way of talking about Trump, like it's his

2523
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 2: dick is small, he's fat, you know that type of thing.

2524
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was bad, by the way, I

2525
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:35,000
Speaker 2: know a lot I know a few people that hate it,

2526
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:37,840
Speaker 2: and all this shit I don't. I thought it was

2527
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 2: it was a south Park episode. I thought it was

2528
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 2: what they do. They were in their bag for south Park.

2529
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm not a south Park hater, but it's not my

2530
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 2: favorite show whatever.

2531
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 3: But the undercurrent of south Park, I guess I'll just

2532
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 3: talk about it here. Yeah, fuck it.

2533
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 2: The undercurrent of south Park is this, they are libertarian.

2534
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:01,160
Speaker 2: Both sides are bad, that kind of white guys, and

2535
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 2: it comes out in their work and they're kind of

2536
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:07,800
Speaker 2: on the we make fun of everybody thing, which is

2537
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:11,360
Speaker 2: never really true, but you know whatever, close enough, they're

2538
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:15,880
Speaker 2: irreverent to all sides, right, and they make fun of

2539
02:05:16,120 --> 02:05:18,600
Speaker 2: trans people, they make fun of black people, they make

2540
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:21,320
Speaker 2: fun of even Black Lives Matter and stuff. Nothing is

2541
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 2: off limits for them to make fun. And in this episode,

2542
02:05:27,560 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 2: it's kind of like the world they wish existed, especially

2543
02:05:33,200 --> 02:05:37,720
Speaker 2: in this post Cobert losing his gig thing right, This

2544
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:41,360
Speaker 2: world that they wish existed, the world they tell themselves exists.

2545
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:41,959
Speaker 3: Is that.

2546
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:47,080
Speaker 2: There aren't really any bad white people. There's no bad

2547
02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:52,080
Speaker 2: white men. They're just people who got tricked by Trump. Like,

2548
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 2: it's not a bad impulse to want to say the

2549
02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 2: R word and the F word. That's not the problem.

2550
02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 2: Those people are still good people. They just they just

2551
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:03,280
Speaker 2: they got a little confused.

2552
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:03,480
Speaker 7: Man.

2553
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 2: The Liberals took away their toys of offensiveness, and so

2554
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 2: they voted for Trump. And in this episode, they're all

2555
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:13,760
Speaker 2: getting their Andrew Schultz on.

2556
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:16,120
Speaker 3: They're now like, what, he's really a piece of shit?

2557
02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm mad and I'm mad at Trump now and we're

2558
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:20,960
Speaker 2: all gonna go get them, man, We're gonna get him

2559
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 2: out of here together.

2560
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:24,600
Speaker 3: And everyone's coming back together.

2561
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:30,480
Speaker 2: And I think that is emblematic of something that holds

2562
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:34,640
Speaker 2: us back as a society, which is like the Andrew Schultzes,

2563
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 2: your Bill Maher's, your Joe Rogan's, They're good guys who

2564
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:42,640
Speaker 2: just got a little bit taken by a snake, all

2565
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:47,880
Speaker 2: salesman and not. We don't stop to go why were

2566
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 2: they taken?

2567
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:49,040
Speaker 1: Right?

2568
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:52,160
Speaker 2: And what does that say about them? That getting to

2569
02:06:52,240 --> 02:06:58,120
Speaker 2: say slurs is is an exploit that can be exploited

2570
02:06:58,120 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 2: all the way to I'm gonna vote you into the

2571
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:02,880
Speaker 2: White House, don't. We don't stop and just and question

2572
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 2: their morality. We can all now just point at Trump

2573
02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 2: and go, what an evil piece of shit? Right now,

2574
02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 2: we're all on the same page. We don't like him,

2575
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 2: and now everything's happy and we're together and we're all

2576
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:18,320
Speaker 2: down with Trump, and it's not necessarily reflective or indicative

2577
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 2: of what is happening in our society. A lot of

2578
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 2: people still going along with this shit. A lot of people,

2579
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 2: even the ones who are like I don't like what

2580
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 2: he's doing with if you if you listen to their

2581
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 2: full clips, their full conversations in those same conversations, like now,

2582
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:36,120
Speaker 2: I still ain't voting for common right, I still like that,

2583
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 2: Like it's.

2584
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 3: Not a I would vote for They would vote.

2585
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:42,200
Speaker 2: For him again. But they also don't want to be

2586
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 2: seen as bad people. That's not good enough.

2587
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:46,600
Speaker 1: They don't want to be seen as bad people. I'm sorry,

2588
02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. If you voted for him,

2589
02:07:48,640 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 1: you are a bad person.

2590
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 2: So even with the South Park thing, it didn't necessarily

2591
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:54,920
Speaker 2: land in any place to me. I mean, I get

2592
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:56,280
Speaker 2: it that it's white boy humor.

2593
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 3: They like seeing. You know, always got a little dick,

2594
02:07:59,440 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 3: he's fat.

2595
02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 2: Uh oh, he's getting sucked by Satan. It's gonna hurt

2596
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:06,000
Speaker 2: his feelings, you know. Paramount. The funniest stuff in there

2597
02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:09,480
Speaker 2: is about Paramount to me is the idea that Paramounts

2598
02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:11,920
Speaker 2: settled this lawsuit and then they signed this big ass

2599
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 2: one point five billion dollars deal with South Park and

2600
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:17,320
Speaker 2: the South Palk creators immediately made jokes about the network

2601
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:21,000
Speaker 2: being Trump's bitch, Like I love that, don't get me wrong,

2602
02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:25,160
Speaker 2: but but it all feels facutless to me. Jokes aren't

2603
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:26,320
Speaker 2: enough to stop Donald Trump.

2604
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:27,080
Speaker 1: No, it is not.

2605
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:30,600
Speaker 2: And it makes people feel powerful, you know, but it's

2606
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:31,720
Speaker 2: not strong enough.

2607
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:35,520
Speaker 3: And also, comedians can't have it both ways.

2608
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 2: You can't be mister power speak truth to power and

2609
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 2: satires the the real weapon of the people.

2610
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:43,839
Speaker 3: We're gonna tear down the kings.

2611
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 2: And at the same time, whenever we call you out

2612
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 2: on some shit, you go, we're just comedians, you know.

2613
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:53,480
Speaker 2: John Stewart gets offended on Colbert's behalf. And at the

2614
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 2: same time John Stewart Clinton defended Tony Hinchcliffe, like to

2615
02:08:58,160 --> 02:09:01,280
Speaker 2: me that you're just a useful idiot. Then like you,

2616
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:05,440
Speaker 2: who cares that you upset? What does that matter to me?

2617
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:09,120
Speaker 2: Are you defending the morality of it? You're just defending

2618
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 2: another comedian. I don't like this is just comedians, just

2619
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:15,520
Speaker 2: your thin blue line like the cops, like it means

2620
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 2: nothing to me, but uh yeah, your anger is not

2621
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:19,839
Speaker 2: righteous either anyway.

2622
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:23,800
Speaker 3: That's my feelings on it. Okay, that's it for everything today.

2623
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:24,640
Speaker 3: We'll be back.

2624
02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 2: So and asked in an email, like you guys, don't

2625
02:09:28,640 --> 02:09:29,680
Speaker 2: read the Spotify comments.

2626
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:34,560
Speaker 3: I was like, the episodes are over two hours already.

2627
02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:36,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to be here four or five hours.

2628
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:38,960
Speaker 3: I like to go to you in the workout, like

2629
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 3: I feel like we're giving you enough.

2630
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:42,760
Speaker 2: It can't be that much being said on Spotify. That

2631
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:45,800
Speaker 2: would change what we're saying. And if it's really important,

2632
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,800
Speaker 2: go to the blackout tills dot com, leave a comment

2633
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:49,200
Speaker 2: on the website.

2634
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 3: Go to our YouTube. That's what we're reading. Emails.

2635
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 2: We still do those ad voicemails. There's enough ways to

2636
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:56,120
Speaker 2: reach out guys. Is if you not discouraging you, if

2637
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:58,200
Speaker 2: you want to leave comments on Spotify, I ain't gonna

2638
02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:00,040
Speaker 2: stop you. But I don't see them all in I

2639
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:04,120
Speaker 2: don't respond to them all all right, y'all until next time,

2640
02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 2: I love you.

2641
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:05,120
Speaker 1: I love you too,