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Speaker 1: It's Talking Cowboys, presented by Geico and a rainy Frisco.

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Speaker 1: I guess afternoon. Now, normally we start this show in

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Speaker 1: Back and heck Ma Harrison. Gentlemen, it's one final time

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Speaker 1: before training camp. It's crazy that we're all ready to this.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Kyle, this is our last time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're just kind of like walking us into the weather.

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Speaker 1: I'm just sad that you guys are leaving and we

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Speaker 1: wait again, and it's just a whole thing. Now we're

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Speaker 1: gonna catch up here over the next hour and kind

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Speaker 1: of look at OTAs. We're gonna answer some Twitter questions

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Speaker 1: preview some training camp superlatives. Let's just say that so

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Speaker 1: far in the final segment. But gentlemen, I do want

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Speaker 1: to catch up on OTAs. We got a chance to

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Speaker 1: And we've had content throughout the week on Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com showcasing the practices and wanted to get some notes. Heck,

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Speaker 1: but you had another great article. We'll let you start

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Speaker 1: anything that's stuck out to you. In terms of OTA's

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Speaker 1: last week, we got some competition battles brewing, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Cornerback position, it's going to be a war. Can't wait

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Speaker 1: I think that is the I know you don't like

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Speaker 1: pack a bag or not. Yeah, if I'm leaving my

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Speaker 1: I just want to know, are you gonna be on

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Speaker 1: You want to know. But I just think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of position battles that are brewing,

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Speaker 1: and we want to see how this offensive line shapes up,

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Speaker 1: you know, offensive line wise, there's just man a lot ball,

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Speaker 1: you know, want to see beatish uh and those guys.

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Speaker 1: But man, literally, our rookies are showing themselves. Those draft

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. I'm just wow, Isaiah somewhere in that on

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Speaker 1: be actualized. I thought Dak looked really good last week.

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Speaker 1: Zach Martin would have gave him problems. He better be

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Speaker 1: I think ye man, No, there are new ers too.

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Speaker 1: else Mike's want to compete for that spot. What's the

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Speaker 1: reality that those that those number four, number five we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get on the field. If jar one's healthy, not

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Speaker 1: a lot exactly right, So we start looking at that, right,

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Speaker 1: So number four, number five, you might get in there

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Speaker 1: to to I mean, receivers are not coming off the

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Speaker 1: field most times now in a league. They're just not,

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Speaker 1: especially if they can hire to hire pay guys Coop,

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Speaker 1: guys like that. They're not coming off the field. So

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Speaker 1: if if I bring on number four in the game,

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Speaker 1: he's probably coming into block. It's probably coming to block,

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Speaker 1: or he's coming to take the top off, right, and

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Speaker 1: if he happens to blow by the guy, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: throw it up to him, right, like we've seen Cedry

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Speaker 1: Wilson do. He did it against Seattle again Seattle, absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: It was a perfect example because in that game, specifically,

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper didn't have as many snaps, and so Cedric

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Speaker 1: Wilson came in and played the same thing down the

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Speaker 1: stretch with Noah Brown. They would come in and they

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Speaker 1: would take one of those receivers off the field, whether

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Speaker 1: they were having an ailment or they just needed a breather,

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Speaker 1: and those guys would come in as the fillers. And

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Speaker 1: that's all you need them to be sure. Absolutely So

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious to see with a healthy big four.

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Speaker 1: I'll call it because out there, Jar went in there

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Speaker 1: with a healthy big four. What are the opportunities that

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Speaker 1: are presented to these guys and how spread out is

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Speaker 1: this ball going to be? Because we have not seen

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Speaker 1: this offense. Will all four of those guys on a

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Speaker 1: consistent basis go throughout even a four game span? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. I thought about that because I feel like

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Speaker 1: Noah Brown and said earned spots in the rotation to

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Speaker 1: y'all's point, but if Jar, who's kind of he's not

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Speaker 1: a receiver, but he has receiver type skills, maybe that

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Speaker 1: changes the rotation or the availability of snaps because because

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz two is probably gonna be. But I see

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Speaker 1: it like, I mean, look, I love Jar and I

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Speaker 1: think he's a you know, he does a great job receiving,

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Speaker 1: but I think we only got a sample size of it,

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Speaker 1: obviously with him getting hurt in the first game. But

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Speaker 1: I think with the way that Kellen Moore's scheme is

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Speaker 1: he goes to the three by one set with wide

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Speaker 1: receivers and not the tight end, and even when he

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I agree, but how much is Drawing

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Speaker 1: getting paid per year? It's not a ton. It was

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Speaker 1: three years, twenty two mil. He got a nice contract.

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Speaker 1: Yea four years. Yeah, it's healthy. He's getting just over five.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get the ball. He's getting paid to play,

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Speaker 1: so he's gonna get the ball. And one years gone, right,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get I say all that to say, the

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Speaker 1: business side of it says he's gonna get the ball.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's what I'm talking about it, right. They're

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Speaker 1: not going to just have him on the roster, just

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Speaker 1: another guy. That's that's all. I'm getting a point. If

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Speaker 1: Jarl's getting him, he's on a roster, they're gonna find

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Speaker 1: a way to give him the ball inconsistently, and Schultz

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Speaker 1: there too. So two set all that jazz, right, but

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Speaker 1: trust me, it's gonna be our three, our three goals receiver,

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Speaker 1: and trust me, Jarlon's gonna find they're gonna find a

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Speaker 1: way to get him their rock. So that's another that's

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Speaker 1: another sixty balls, seventy balls gone. It's this is kind

489
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Speaker 1: of a surprising stat but the Cowboys last year led

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Speaker 1: the NFL with eighty one dropped passes. You remember that

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Speaker 1: last year, though eighty one since twenty nineteen. They have

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Speaker 1: three players with tim plus drops since I guess over

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Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper, Michael Gallup, and Ezekiel Elliott. He has

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Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily take away from how good this receiving corps

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk plenty more about the wide receivers whenever

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Speaker 1: every single day. But Rob, there are some mail bag

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Speaker 1: predict how the Cowboys will start and in the year

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Speaker 1: with the starters at the cornerback position. So of course

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Speaker 1: there's been quite a few changes throughout. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, right now, it looks like the starters might

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Speaker 1: be the same as what we saw in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Shoudobe a woozier. But is there any big change that

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Speaker 1: you see on the horizon at the moment, it's no,

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Speaker 1: it's Treyvon Digs, it's Anthony Brown, and it's Jordan Lewis,

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Speaker 1: And I very well could see that happen in week one. Now,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you drafted two young players that have

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Speaker 1: a lot of talent. Doesn't mean by the end of

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Speaker 1: the year, that might look different. We talked to me,

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Speaker 1: just talk about receiver. You could you could have guys

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Speaker 1: earning spots within rotation get some snaps, but I definitely

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Speaker 1: could see them leaning towards veterans at that spot, like

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Speaker 1: Isaiah has been saying all along, like you guys didn't

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Speaker 1: love the idea of going corner in the first round

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Speaker 1: because you'd be awfully young. It's your corner spots. They'd

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Speaker 1: be awfully young if they if they if Kelvin Joseph

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Speaker 1: or Nashan Wrights started week one. But hey, that's what

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Speaker 1: camps for. We'll find out. So okay, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go around and give our starters, and then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: end of the year. So starters for you, Isaiah, starters,

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Speaker 1: I think just what just what Rob Pie said, and

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Speaker 1: lou A Brown and Trayvon Diggs. I'm going to say,

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Speaker 1: I've just seen him compete, and definitely Anthony Brown and

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Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs would be in that conversation. And also Jordan Lewis,

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Speaker 1: based off what I've seen so far, well, I'm based

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Speaker 1: off of following the money, right, that's what you're told,

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Speaker 1: follow the money. And Jordan Lewis signing his new deal

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Speaker 1: as well, I'm right there with you after he signed

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Speaker 1: his three year, thirteen and a half million dollar contract.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, I think is a starter at the moment,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna start in the slot. Anthony Brown will be

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Speaker 1: on the outside, Trayvon Diggs will be on the outside

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Speaker 1: as well. Those are my three there. I think you're

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Speaker 1: Outside or inside. That's what I was about to ask you, honestly,

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Speaker 1: especially especially week one. Why do you think he would

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Speaker 1: As we're as this defense is starting to change, you

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Speaker 1: can you can see the direction at this secondary starting

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Speaker 1: six four safeties just call it how that is, sorry

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Speaker 1: if that was thinking. Yeah, I mean, there's there's a

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Speaker 1: of how and Quinn is starting to scheme up this

637
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: this defense in the secondary, he wants one side somebody

638
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: who can just lock you down or stay in your

639
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: hit pocket the whole time. He wants on another side

640
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: where they can put their hands in your chest right well,

641
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: on the inside where that's where the teams are going

642
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: to try to hide there. They're shifty guys, So guess

643
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: where you put your shifty guy on the inside side.

644
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: So that's why you that's why, Um, that's what I believe.

645
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: I believe that he's he's he's kind of getting kJ

646
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: or you know, Kevin Jones. I think he's getting him ready,

647
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: um to play both. But I think primarily he will

648
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: have the biggest impact on the inside for this team. Yeah,

649
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: I like Kelvin Joson on the inside. But you know

650
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be a serious undertaking. Right now,

651
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis is playing with that sense of urgency that

652
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: we talked about. These guys know that they're on the

653
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: hot seat, and with signing those contracts that the pressure

654
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: intensifies to perform because you've been rewarded in a sense.

655
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: And so but Kelvin Joseph again, follow the money and

656
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: the draft pick. He was picked it in the second round,

657
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: and and there are not a lot of teams that

658
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: lit the second round draft pick sit on the bed.

659
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna put that guy in and see exactly what

660
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: he has. And we're gonna get a full serving of

661
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Kevin Joseph in the preseason. We'll find out if

662
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: he can play or not. But NationAn Wright is the

663
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: one guy in this whole equation that I think, you know,

664
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: more people need to start paying attention to because at

665
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: the end of the year, we're looking down the line,

666
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: it may be a situation where that third round pick

667
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: is the one that you're talking about more than the second. Yeah,

668
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: I was just kidding. Yeah, that's where I was going

669
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: because Chris or CBS on vacation, Yep, Scott and Aaron

670
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: just rolled a lot of highlights of Sean Wright, and

671
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: we watch practice, he gets an interception, We watch practice,

672
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: he gets a pick. I get it. It shorts, it's pajamas,

673
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: it's all that stuff. But there's a long way to go.

674
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: You put the pads on, you got you gotta go

675
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: through the grinder camp. You gotta show out. Um. But

676
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: if this keeps up, he's gonna be on the field.

677
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: I already feel like he's on the team. You know,

678
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: he's dan Quinn wants to develop him. There's no question

679
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: about it. He's the top three round pick. But there's

680
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: a third round action. But maybe he's playing this year,

681
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, if he if he can continue to show

682
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: this and continue to develop again, very very very early.

683
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: M That's that's intriguing because based off how you felt

684
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: about the pick, Yeah, you're right, I was not. I

685
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: was nowhere close to where I am right now with

686
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: Naean right now. Of course, after the draft, we went

687
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: and we watched film and we said, Okay, we see

688
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: the fit, but is he good enough? And right now

689
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: he's like you said, he's showing out with what we've

690
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: been able to see in the very very very small

691
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: sample size. The preseason is going to be huge for

692
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: both of those guys. Sure, the first couple of weeks

693
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: of the season are going to be gigantic for both

694
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: of those guys. But we saw it last year with

695
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs. Premium secondary picks are going to see the

696
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: field now. Trayvon Diggs was thrown into a tough situation

697
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: where he had to start because of the injuries to

698
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: shadobe E Wuzier and because of the lack of availability

699
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: with Anthony Brown at times. Trayvon Diggs was thrust it

700
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: into that starting job by the necessity of having it.

701
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: There's not that at least right now. Hopefully that stays

702
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: the case. Hopefully everybody stays healthy. There's not that necessity

703
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: right now. So it'll be interesting to see how they

704
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: finish up. How do you feel like they'll finish up,

705
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: prop I mean, I'm with Heck. I think if Kelvin

706
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: Joseph is not a walk in starter, I think he's

707
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna be playing by the end of the year if

708
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: he if he's on track the way they think he

709
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: can be and we haven't seen a lot of him

710
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: so far. I think he'll be playing quite a bit.

711
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: I just to y'all's point, like he's a second round pick.

712
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: They have a lot of a bill belief in him.

713
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: Like Isaiah said, he's got some flexibility, he can he

714
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: can play insider out. He's going to be on the field.

715
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident of that. Now. I want to ask

716
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: this in the end of the table, do you guys

717
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: want to put a pick in here? Is Nashan right

718
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: going to start at least one game by the end

719
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: of the year. Yes, wow, okay, yeah, absolutely, especially as

720
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: you started facing somebody these larger receivers. Heck you you

721
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: think he'll be right there? Heck you? Okay, yeah, yeah,

722
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: I think Hey, no more, we don't have to face

723
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: Julio Jones anymore. That's a celebration. Hey how about that.

724
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: That's a whole right, there's a steal. That's a giveaway.

725
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: Thank you. Flea market is what the type picked out.

726
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: But you know, national right again, not getting overly excited

727
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: about it. We have to get to camp to see

728
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: what he can do. But I just believe in dan

729
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: quinn Man. He is as advertised the way that you

730
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: talked about him, the energy that he approaches practice with

731
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: the guy's interaction with dan Quinn, I mean, his involvement.

732
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: And from one point he's down with the defensive lineman.

733
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: The next thing you know, he's on the other side

734
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: with the cornerbacks. Like wait a minute, he was just

735
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, and so he's got a teleportation device on

736
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: the field. There's no way he got from one side

737
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: to well, how did you get down there? You know,

738
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: And he's and just the competition that he's reading, the

739
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: culture that you talked about. These guys are competing, and

740
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: you look at last year. I mean, it's at a

741
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: certain point we're gonna get to the point where we're

742
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: not talking about twenty twenty anymore. Right, But still, when

743
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: you go back to the fact that guys couldn't play

744
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: fast because they didn't understand alignment and assignment, they didn't

745
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: know where they were. There were two guys in one

746
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: area and a guy running free. Right. So I think

747
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: the simplified approach to dan Quinn's defense and just his involvement,

748
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: hands on approach, I think that's gonna make the difference

749
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I don't know if he starts unless

750
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: there's an injury. But look, everybody's got to be ready

751
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: because you need four good corners in today's NFL at least.

752
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: And Anthony Brown's missed I think thirteen games the last

753
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: two years. Cheeto missed some games last year, not on

754
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: the roster anymore, Jordan missed the opener, so you have

755
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: to have some depth there. Richard Robinson started a couple

756
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: of games I think last year, so it's possible. It's

757
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: possible you might see the rookies in the starting lineup.

758
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: And as we're talking about, you know, the guys don't

759
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: have pads on yet, understand right, and just take her

760
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: for somebody who's who's been been through it a little bit.

761
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: OTAs is harder on dbs than it is some receivers.

762
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: So when the pads get on, whatever the dbs are doing,

763
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: usually he gets better, especially physical dbs. Right, So when

764
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: you talk about guys like night National right, who get

765
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: up there in your face and they put their hands

766
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: on your chest, guess what, it's a little bit harder

767
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: when they're slipping the sliding on shirts that they really

768
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: get you know what I'm saying. Right, when you get

769
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: up there and you got some pads on. Now I

770
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: can I can now I can grab you. Yeah, now

771
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: I can grab you. Now I can punch you in

772
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: your chest without the coach thinking I'm a hurtybody one. Right,

773
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: So what as good as you guys are seeing Nashan

774
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: b right now, it's only going to get better. Hopefully,

775
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: I hope that's the case. Just continue this ending there's

776
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: but in the as we're talking about the secondary, I

777
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: personally think this might be a curveball. I think the

778
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: safety position is more competitive than a cornerback position. Okay,

779
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: why is that because you brought into veterans curse you

780
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: brought you brought in three veteran Yeah, I mean, well

781
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: whatever here you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, so and then

782
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: you factor in the fact that you brought in curse, right, um,

783
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: and then Wilson's not going anywhere, he's gonna be there. Well,

784
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: we know he's gonna be there, So you have you're

785
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: only gonna carry four safeties. Yeah yeah, so you got

786
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: you got the two six four jokers, right, you got

787
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: Israel I like Israel, right, and you got Darien Thompson

788
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, like the safety position is very

789
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: competitive now, and it's harder to show your abilities at safety.

790
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: Right when you're talking about practice and evaluating things of

791
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: that nature, it is very difficult to evaluate a safety

792
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: skill set and what he's gonna be able to attribute

793
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: to your team because guess what, a lot of times

794
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: you're not being challenged. It's not corner it's not being

795
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: challenged as much. Right, so preseason games become in becomes

796
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, very instrumental in terms of being able to

797
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: tell who can ball. And that's not a position that

798
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: you usually rotate out, like like I mentioned earlier in

799
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: the show, cornerback and guess what, Hey, you go out

800
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: there at heck, you get you a couple of players, Bore,

801
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: I'll get your body, all right, Kyle, get up in

802
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: there all right. Rob, you gonna get you some reps too, right,

803
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: safety position, you're not doing that. Yeah, So how difficult

804
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be for these guys to determine who's going

805
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: to have the most contributions to live to this roster? Now,

806
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: I really think that's interesting that you bring that up

807
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: about the safety position because I believe that there are

808
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: a lot of guys have they've been living on potential, yes, right,

809
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: and that potential at some point has to come to

810
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: a maturity day. And the maturity day is due now,

811
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: So who are some of those guys? I think Thompson

812
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: definitely has has lived on potential for a while, especially

813
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: last year. But I think that you know, but there's

814
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, return on investment. It's time, you know,

815
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: they put enough into him where he can give them something.

816
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: You got a lot of bad tape out there if

817
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: you're Thompson that you just look, you got to overcome

818
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: that with the preseason. Yeah, I mean I would lean

819
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: towards Kiz just because when Bill Parcels came in, he

820
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: had the Parcels guys absolutely, Quinn guys that are here, uh,

821
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: donovand Wilson, I would think is a start of what

822
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: we've seen. Curse would take some reps a lot um

823
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: early on. That was also because Wilson wasn't necessarily available. Yeah,

824
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: and it's voluntary. And now so say, but we had

825
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: two guys locked, right, say we got Kiz and we

826
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: got those two were locked. I think we all can

827
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: pretty much way better about that. But even we had

828
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: last So let's say say those two guys are locked,

829
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: who are next to you? Gotta keep two more. I

830
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: would say Curse and Mukuama at least right now, right

831
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: this very second, that's where I would put it. Dan

832
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: Thompson maybe yeah, I mean don't know. I don't disagree.

833
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: I just I think there's a lot of dudes. Yeah

834
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: you think, do you agree with it? Because he's gonna

835
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: come down to special teams too, It's really gonna come

836
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: down to special teams. Special can help special teams. Thompsons

837
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: can't help you there. Um, But you start looking at

838
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: and then you look at start looking at the special teams.

839
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: But do you start looking at guys like like Israel? Right,

840
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: because I'm a big fan of him. Okay, he's six

841
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: to four. He could play special teams and he wants

842
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: to play special teams. Right, that's where him and Thompson

843
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: can really come in, right. They both want to play

844
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: on the teams. They want to have an impact there.

845
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: But this way, if if I'm if I'm Dan Quinn,

846
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: somebody wants to throw the ball over the top, I

847
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: want to six four. I want a six four guys,

848
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah I had that length? Yeah yeah, because he's only

849
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: what five eleven, he's not very big. How big is Curse?

850
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: How tall is Curse. They view him is kind of

851
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: a special not specialty, but a guy that can cover

852
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: tight ends. And he's a special teams He's been a

853
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: special team's core guy everywhere he's been. So who has

854
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: better footwork because he for sure, at least based off

855
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: of what I've seen in OTA's now And I did

856
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: tweet this out the other day. Let me gets really quick,

857
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: because he's played. You're You're one hundred percent right the

858
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: I tweeted out the other day in my Ota notes

859
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: that I wasn't impressed with Curse. It was the footwork

860
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: and just pace. That's those are both things that can

861
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: be fixed by the time even training camp comes around.

862
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: So those are very very temporary things. He didn't necessarily

863
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: like that job of discussion. Yeah we did. We had

864
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: a little get together on that one, and I mean

865
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: I told him, I was like, dude, it's just Sota's,

866
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: no big deal. You're gonna be fine. It was just

867
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: an observation and so it was quick, a quick little conversation.

868
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: I do believe Curse will be on the team. I

869
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: think he will be on the team. And the reason

870
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: why is also the day after that practice, I mean,

871
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: he had another good practice from what I hear. I mean,

872
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: we weren't able to watch it, but I hear there

873
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: were good things that that that next practice. So maybe

874
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: it was just a a bad day. And hopefully that's

875
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: the case, because I want him to succeed in that

876
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: regard and I think he will be on the team.

877
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: But you're right, then it comes down to Thompson. Is

878
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: Thompson a good enough special teams player to keep around

879
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: now to play safety? Competition? Competition, that's everything. That's everything

880
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: we've been asking for. It's mukuamu. And by the way,

881
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: this is I don't see, I do not Yeah, you

882
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: can cut him. Yeah, he's just he's long, he has

883
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: great footwork. Right, he's a sixth round pick. It's not

884
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: like they have anything invested. He gets flex. He's a

885
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: college cornerback exactly, who can help either spot. His footwork

886
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: shows that he was a cornerback. We showed last year

887
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: though with Reggie Robinson that same exact wasn't I know,

888
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: but it wasn't valued the same way. So why do

889
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: you think it will change. We haven't brought because he's taller. No,

890
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: we haven't brought. Well, I think he's just a better player. Yeah,

891
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: I think he's a better athlete. Reggie Robinson was a

892
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: fourth round pick though, and Mcam, I completely understand that.

893
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at god man for man, I think

894
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: you got a better athlete. And is it you, Dogie Robins?

895
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: Is that just recency bias? Or is that legitimate? Like

896
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: side by side? Is that what you see? What else?

897
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Can what else do I have to judge it by?

898
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean when I look on the field. Yeah, when

899
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: I look on the field and I look at both

900
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: of those guys, Reggie Robinson, no disrespect. He looks like

901
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: another guy out there different. Yes, yes, stands out substantially,

902
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: not on his side and his and his and just

903
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: his stature right. But but also, like I keep going

904
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: back to his footwork. You don't get that footwork at

905
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: that size of player. You do not. It's not common.

906
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: It is not a it's not normal for guys to

907
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: be that big and have that kind of footwork. Now,

908
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: when you get the pads on, let's see how he hits.

909
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: Let's see is he gonna bring it when he gets

910
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: some pads on. Right when we get to the when

911
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game and some of that, maybe he doesn't play

912
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: that much in Pittsburgh game, but some of the other games.

913
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Is he gonna come up and put it and hit somebody?

914
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: That's when you get to tell, Okay, if this boy

915
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: can hit, oh, he has to be on his team.

916
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: How hard is it to play safety as a rookie

917
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: in this league? For what they're gonna ask him to do.

918
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that hard. He'd be a special

919
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: teams guy. Yeah, But to get in the lineup, would

920
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: you do you? I mean, do you think you can

921
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: compete for that spider? I think they just trying to

922
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: develop him and getting ready for I think, at at

923
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: probably any position. Make sure I stand behind this statement

924
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: more than any position in football. I think it's easier

925
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: to be to make the roster as a backup safety.

926
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: I go with that just based off of developmental yes, potential, yes, okay,

927
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: and he's everything that your future needs. I mean, we

928
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking about Errol Thomas and

929
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: a lot of other guys coming in in safety, and

930
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: if you got a young dog on your roster, you

931
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: know you could you could bury that whole conversation right now.

932
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: The guy you got you need is already on your

933
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: roster and I'm taking a step further. You know, in

934
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's system, the guy that's that free safety, he's lurking.

935
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: I mean he can. There's so many different ways that

936
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: you can use your free safety sideline. The sideline in

937
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: this system, and you talk about four that with feet

938
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: like his, he's covering a lot of ground quickly. So

939
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be, like I said, when these

940
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: guys get to two of days, it's gonna be a battle.

941
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: How tall is somebody's six four when they put both arms, Uh,

942
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: they're tall shack size. I'm not gonna say that's a

943
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: hard ball to get. I'm just saying, you know you're

944
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: coming from depth, where you're coming from depth. We get

945
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: that dude run a side on the side line and

946
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: he goes up to go grab the ball. Right, you

947
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: factor in his vertical plus it's probably what we call

948
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: it nine feet. He puts his arm up, called it

949
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: nine feet, kay, right when he jumps up, Dude, that's

950
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: that's that's huge. It's huge. Are gonna make me get

951
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: out my arm length on my my draft for uh?

952
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: For guys like Mukuamu. That's why I think because he

953
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: though based off at heckmus point. That's why I think

954
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: he's going to be the starter at safety, and now

955
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: we've we've named our entire starting secondary in this segment.

956
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: So that's why I think he will be the starter

957
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: because of what dan Quinn expects out of free safety

958
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: and what he could potentially be. So that's where I'm at. Ultimately, Now,

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Speaker 1: I got another question that we didn't get to hit

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Speaker 1: a segment I should say, Kenneth ask on Twitter out

1019
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Speaker 1: of surgery, what are realistic expectations for mister Dak Prescott.

1020
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Speaker 1: As we know Cowboys fans will always have those insanely

1021
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: high expectations, But what do you think is legitimately feasible?

1022
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: Do you think that there is a legitimate I guess

1023
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: roll back on what we should expect from Dak? And

1024
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Speaker 1: I think this is a great way to cap off

1025
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: the off season of shows. Mister Rob Phillis will start

1026
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: with you. I think he's gonna be Dak. I really,

1027
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: I really believe that the only thing that would hold

1028
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: him back is if he's having problems with that ankle,

1029
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: and there's been no indication that that's going to be

1030
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: an issue for him. So if he's got his offensive line.

1031
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: He's got wide receivers to throw too, He's got a

1032
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Speaker 1: running back to hand it off to. Oh wait, he

1033
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: has all those things. Yeah, So I think he's gonna

1034
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: be the moment he has at the moment. At the moment,

1035
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: he does. But we've also seen him win games and

1036
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: put up big numbers without starting tackles. I mean, he

1037
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: can do it with some guys missing. But to me,

1038
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: aside from just getting his timing down and getting some

1039
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: of the rust off, I expect him guys to be

1040
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: just like himself. Out of one hundred percent, you could

1041
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: go higher if you think he's gonna be better, you

1042
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: could go lower. Where do you think he would be?

1043
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to go higher based

1044
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: off potential health around him. I think I think he does.

1045
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,959
Speaker 1: I just know, just everybody you talked about how hard

1046
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: he works, and I know that might sound cliche, but

1047
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: I just know that he's gonna put himself in position

1048
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: to be as best as he can be. And he's

1049
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: he hasn't missed a day of rehab. He's been here,

1050
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: he's been doing everything he's been asked to do and more.

1051
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. I really, I truly

1052
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Speaker 1: believe that, you know, to Kenneth to answer you a question,

1053
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: I expect Dak to be a dog this year. I

1054
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: don't expect game manager Dak. I expect for Dak to

1055
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: be playmaker Dak. You know. I think he's been rewarded

1056
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: by the franchise to show that, you know, the value

1057
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: that they place on him, which is a whole lot,

1058
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: you know, and he realizes, like he said, pressure is

1059
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: a privilege in the in the press conference, and I

1060
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: just look for him to take those strides to be

1061
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: on that next level. I talked about him being cerebral

1062
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: and getting into those upper echelon the quarterbacks in the league.

1063
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: I think that's what he's looking at. I'm thinking that

1064
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: he's thinking MVP level play. He has all of the weapons, mean,

1065
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: more weapons than anybody, so he has every reason to

1066
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: be successful and he should be, you know, chomping at

1067
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: the bit to have this opportunity to compete in twenty

1068
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah, I agree. I think I think the

1069
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: expectations UM should be the same. Um. I'm probably the

1070
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: only person that doesn't think that he's one hundred percent

1071
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: right now. I think, No, I'm with you, okay, but

1072
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: it's not by a lot. I don't think it's gonna

1073
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: be a massive drawback. It's not a massive drawback. I'm

1074
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing him in the preseason. I'm looking

1075
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: forward to seeing him in the prema. We're not playing

1076
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: Dack in the preseason. What's the matter? You have to

1077
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: play much, not a little bit, series, not a lot,

1078
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: but you do. You need to see because it's one

1079
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: thing to to put somebody in the situation, and I

1080
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: don't want everybody get mad at them. Just being real, Okay,

1081
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: it's one thing to happen with him. I'm saying, what

1082
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: much else? Y'all know I always do. He um right now,

1083
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: he's kind of it's a protective bubble, right, they have

1084
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: he has a bubble around. He's bubble. He's a bubble

1085
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: boy right now, right, and like it's signed bold episode. Right.

1086
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: He's done amazing job. He's amazing. He's done amazing job.

1087
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: He works hard. I've seen him work hard, right, I've

1088
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: seen him doing all the training stuff with Britt and

1089
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: that does grinding, right, grinding. He's doing everything possible to

1090
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent deck, even when he feels like

1091
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: he is one hundred percent. He's still not one hundred

1092
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: percent until he reacts, right. He hasn't reacted yet. And

1093
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: when I say that, as I'm talking about a defensive lineman,

1094
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: he right coming off the end, right, dipping and ripping

1095
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: on on somebody and then coming at his ankles right

1096
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: and being able to actually like plant instinctively and get

1097
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: that get out of it right. Everything that he's doing

1098
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: right now is boot out this way, boot out that scripted. Right,

1099
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: it's very scripted, That's what I'm saying. It's a bubble right,

1100
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: it's kind it's kind of protected out. They're building his

1101
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: confidence very very much so that they should they have

1102
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: to do that, but he won't be a hundred and

1103
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: he knows this until he actually has to react and

1104
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: avoid some defenders and go out there and make some place.

1105
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: Once he does that, he'll be one hundred percent physically

1106
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: and mentally. That's really interesting he said that because I

1107
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: mentioned that psychological element last week, and he said that

1108
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: about a month ago. That's when he started getting more

1109
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: and more confidence, like I'm good, I'm back, and he

1110
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: said some of the stuff he's doing rehab because he's

1111
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: still in the rehab process to a certain extent is

1112
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: reactive stuff, not not all scripted. But until somebody's chasing

1113
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: and he wants to knock you to the ground and

1114
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: knock you on your ass, Yeah, you know that's that's

1115
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: a different story. Sure, until you're facing other teams that

1116
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: want to do what happened in Week five of last

1117
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: year to you as a quarterback. I mean, that's the

1118
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: plane the one hundred percent reason I think you put

1119
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: this beautifully, Isaiah, because I'm not it's not necessarily Dak

1120
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: who I'm not one hundred percent on. It's just the

1121
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: situation because he will get to one hundred percent. I'm

1122
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: confidence it will get to that point, but it's gonna

1123
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: take a minute. It may take a game, it may

1124
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: take the preseason. Who knows. It could also take three

1125
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: or four games to get back into that rhythm. Hopefully

1126
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: it's shorter than you think. Hopefully it just takes the

1127
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: preseason and then by the time you face the Bunk

1128
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: Buccaneers on Thursday night Week one, you feel much better

1129
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: about it and he's able to react and have that

1130
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: same kind of instinct. But it's it's a change. And

1131
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: then plus on top of the injury, anytime you take

1132
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: a significant amount of time off from your job, doing

1133
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: it a certain way, and doing it without question question

1134
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: mark in the back of your head. You're going to

1135
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: have an adjustment period. That's why knocking off the rust

1136
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: is such a cliche in sports. There's going to be

1137
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of rust with Dak Prescott. It's just

1138
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: whether or not how quickly he can get rid of

1139
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: that and knock it off. Yeah, I'm I'm all into

1140
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: limiting exposure right now, and I believe that we're gonna

1141
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: give bubble boy. We got it right now, We're gonna

1142
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: stay with that. But the thing is is that I

1143
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: want I want. I mean, you know that he's a

1144
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: pro's pro. He knows how to prepare for games now,

1145
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: and it is going into a sixth season, so that's

1146
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: weird six six season, so an Zeke. Yes, So it's

1147
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: not a situation. He's not in a situation where he

1148
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: doesn't know what to expect, what's going to happen. Yes,

1149
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: last year was a one off, but as far as

1150
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: guarding him and getting him two week one, that's that's

1151
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: what I'm all about. But I also believe in what

1152
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: you're saying. You know, his health psychologically, where he is

1153
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: once he feels that pressure when someone rolls up on

1154
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: his ankle. What if someone has him in the grasp

1155
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: and you know that Dak, with all that strength that

1156
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: he has me, he looks like the heavyweight champion of

1157
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: the world. Right now, He's still gonna be Dak. He's

1158
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: gonna run through all of those things. I don't see

1159
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: him changing his game. No, I don't either. But to

1160
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: your point, that's a difficult thing, right, that's a difficult

1161
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: position you're in as not only a head coach, but

1162
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: as a GM and area everybody else who makes decisions

1163
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: around here is you have to protect him, right and

1164
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: your your job is to get him to a situation

1165
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: where he can help you win ball games. At the

1166
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: same time, he knows he's not one hundred percent until

1167
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: he overcomes those hurdles. He knows it. You mean, do

1168
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: you mean physically or men mentally? Just it's physically. I

1169
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: can't check that box to say that I'm one hundred

1170
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: percent until I react to a couple of things instinctively

1171
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: on the field. I could feel as good as I

1172
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: want to, but I can't check that box until Kyle's

1173
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: jumping out my dog on ankles and I hit him

1174
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: with the U nasty you know what I'm saying, like, no,

1175
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: you okay? Now now back, I'm back. All the brown

1176
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: drills bands I want to, right, and I've done those personally,

1177
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: I've done those and you feel good, right, But there's

1178
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: still that question mark. There's a freaking question mark in

1179
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: your head. Man, The dog on riddler is in there,

1180
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: and you just gotta and you have to do your

1181
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: best to react to them. Once you do, all right,

1182
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm good physically, and guess what, now, I could check

1183
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: the mental box too, because now I can, right, I

1184
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: don't have to question whether or not I'm healthy right now.

1185
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: We talked about this with Laton Vanderesh last year. He

1186
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: did that hit. Oh when we got it against Dalvin

1187
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: Cups against Minnesota. That's when Layton Vanderesh came in and said, bam,

1188
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm back now. He ended up getting I don't want that.

1189
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't want that hit. I don't want that. No,

1190
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: But that's the same thing about that I said. I said,

1191
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: Vanderesh could look as good as he wants to, he

1192
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: can feel as good as he wants to, but until

1193
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: he has to step up in a hole. And what

1194
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: happened we were watching the game live together and I said, oh,

1195
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: here we go. It is here we go boom, and

1196
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: that what happened that had to come out the game. Yeah,

1197
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: he had come up the game, but that but that

1198
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: let him know, Oh, that box is not checked yet

1199
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 1: his box with as good as he felt, that box

1200
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: was not checked because mentally he frowze up right and

1201
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: physically he wasn't ready. And those are two things that

1202
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: you cannot do. No, we're talking about the hit and

1203
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: then yeah, see and I was thinking when he finally

1204
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: when he came back from that, yeah, and he was like, okay,

1205
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: now I am back and he hit put the hits

1206
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: on goal line against Dalvin Cook. That was the positive one, right, Yeah,

1207
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the first week. Great point. There's two one, hun.

1208
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: You could go back to both of those plays negatively

1209
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: against the Rams, positively against the Vikings in the middle

1210
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: of the season. That's the way that it works on

1211
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: a player that is second time checkerbox, second time check

1212
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: first time. He did not question. That's a great point.

1213
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's a better way to close

1214
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: out the show in that regard, because that's that's what

1215
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: Dack's gonna have to go through and we're gonna see

1216
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: it of course here over the next couple of months,

1217
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: but until we come back, I'm talking cowboys, uh in

1218
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: the middle of training camp. We're not exactly sure when

1219
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: those shows will start, but we will have plenty of

1220
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: content on Dallas Cowboys dot com. At my Harrison's now

1221
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: writing for Dallas Cowboys dot com. Chet He's doing a

1222
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: great job. Yeah, go check it out. He's got Thursday

1223
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: notes who turned heads on Thursday on the website. He

1224
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: does a great job with that. He'll do some more

1225
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: writing as well. I don't want to leave, Kyle, I know.

1226
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave. I don't want this to leave.

1227
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be Oh I can't. I

1228
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: don't have a live guys like so, we just got

1229
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: to come back next Monday. Even if we don't do

1230
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: a show, it's gonna be you in here. It's not

1231
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: even gonna be anybody camera. That's me. I'm gonna be

1232
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: right back here doing the symphony in your head. He's

1233
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: doing it in the dark. Oh man. Rob of course

1234
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: is doing great stuff on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Anything

1235
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: crazy coming up you, You've got a couple big things

1236
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: on your plate. I don't know if you can do

1237
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: big things. Deep Blue is back. Finish Yeah, I need to.

1238
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't have a life either. I gotta finish that.

1239
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: So before any type I can even think about vacations.

1240
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: You need a voice. You need a voice or something.

1241
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: Holedge Boy will so the Soultry voice. So heck my

1242
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: hand smooth. Then Isaiah is doing great stuff as always.

1243
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: We've got a new show debuting on Thursday, Hit Sticks. Oh.

1244
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that that was getting debuts on Thursday. Yes, Oh,

1245
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: it's already done. I didn't know about it. We've got

1246
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: episodes one and two. They're gonna come out every Thursday

1247
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: up until That's where I'm gonna get that twenty dollars from.

1248
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: You want to you want to explain with what Hit

1249
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: Sticks is. I'm on it with But I thought he

1250
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: got tossed man. But it's good to hear that we're

1251
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: rolling with it. Um now, Hit Sticks essentially we're myself,

1252
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: Bury Bury Church and Uh and mister kay Kate why Uh.

1253
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: We're doing a show where in which we are teaching

1254
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: the game through the lens of former players. But we're

1255
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: teething it using Madden Wow, using technology using technology sports

1256
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: Baby came up with that concept needs a raise. Absolutely,

1257
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: they do. Absolutely. It definitely wasn't me. I'm the producer

1258
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: of it, but I think Eric was the one. Eric

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Speaker 1: at Heckma Underscore Harrison, he is at I am stand

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Speaker 1: Back on Twitter, Rob Phillips three on Twitter, and then

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Speaker 1: I'm at Kyle Underscore Yeoman's. But that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for us, this on Talking Cowboys. We will be back

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Speaker 1: in about a month or so training camp on the way.

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Speaker 1: But until next time, for all these guys, for Scott Purcell,

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam who's not here, we're gonna thank them anyway.

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Speaker 1: As Aaron Gonzalez, Happy birthday Aaron. By the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you next time.

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