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Speaker 1: Angeles with Molly Lambert and joining us from New York,
Speaker 1: Emily Yoshida. Happy Mass Singer Week, Happy Masked Singer Century.
Speaker 1: We had no idea we had entered the Mass Singer era.
Speaker 1: Uh we we We waltzed into nineteen so naive, thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just another year, but in fact we
Speaker 1: were living in the world of the Mass Singer, now
Speaker 1: the Mass Singer extended universe. It felt like we were
Speaker 1: entering a new era. Yeah, the bird mask a s
Speaker 1: MR Plague doctor thing that we watched since discussed on
Speaker 1: the podcast a while ago. It's like it ruined the
Speaker 1: Mass Singer. It came to life. It came to life,
Speaker 1: and I just picture them singing in a s m
Speaker 1: R voice. Well people, I know, like the billboards for
Speaker 1: the masked singer were amazing because they were so it
Speaker 1: looked like a Vega show, yeah, or like a black mirror.
Speaker 1: They were just like the masks are particularly creepy on purpose,
Speaker 1: it seems. Um. I guess it's originally a Korean show
Speaker 1: and this is the American reboot, but maybe they don't
Speaker 1: know if the aesthetic of the original show was I
Speaker 1: would imagine it was this because it's very memorable. I
Speaker 1: saw a clip where they were like, it was not
Speaker 1: just a mask. It's like they have like whole costumes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a whole. Like there's a lion one I
Speaker 1: saw it's a full body. Ken Jong is like I
Speaker 1: know that lion. Yeah. My friend Sarah Johnson was saying
Speaker 1: it's part of the ice wad Shut universe. Yes, sure, absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's because they don't want you to recognize people by
Speaker 1: their bodies either, I imagine because that's really easy to do. Well,
Speaker 1: it's even hard. I don't know how anyone sings when
Speaker 1: they're inside like a hippo costume. Well, we were discussing this.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it recorded inside their mask or is
Speaker 1: it prerecorded? I have so many to know. That was
Speaker 1: her main question was are the vocals. How do you
Speaker 1: sing in that thing and have the vocals come out?
Speaker 1: How weird is it going to sound with the you know,
Speaker 1: there's probably a microphone inside the mask. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: going to sound it's probably so big. But maybe the
Speaker 1: acoustics inside the head are really good. They've created an
Speaker 1: acoustic environment inside the head of the mask. How you
Speaker 1: know what it kind of reminds me of is ending?
Speaker 1: Did you I's ever see Tony Erdman, which is like
Speaker 1: getting New Christian Wig and Jack Nicholson. The original is incredible.
Speaker 1: I highly recommended to everybody suit in it. There. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this like weird traditional Scandinavian suit that comes into
Speaker 1: play in the end, like this monster suit. Uh. And
Speaker 1: it's so it's so bizarre and it's like I can't
Speaker 1: even describe it. I mean, I can't spoil any This
Speaker 1: is like this is like a singing competition. So it
Speaker 1: was like something about it that's really funny because you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like Kaiju suits, Godzilla suits, people singing and it's
Speaker 1: not evil seemingly, That's what I was saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: even though it's like a dystopian reality show that feels
Speaker 1: good for our current moment. It's not like The Swan,
Speaker 1: the all time benchmark for feel bad reality TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of reassuring in some ways, like
Speaker 1: to think back on The Swan and think, well, not
Speaker 1: everything gets worse that we don't have. That was the
Speaker 1: point where I was like things. That was when I
Speaker 1: thought everything was going to be so bad forever. Did
Speaker 1: you guys, how much of this one did you watch? It?
Speaker 1: Not horrifying it was. I found it so hard. Like
Speaker 1: we've talked about this one so much on this show,
Speaker 1: but we will talk about it again, which is that
Speaker 1: it was a reality show where it was like they
Speaker 1: gave a bunch of average women insane plastic surgery makeovers
Speaker 1: and then had them in a beauty contest. Uh, and
Speaker 1: somebody won and they were the Swan. I just can't
Speaker 1: believe it was real. It's one of those things that
Speaker 1: I feel like we have to talk about to remind ourselves.
Speaker 1: What was amazing was then they like followed the contestants
Speaker 1: after the makeovers and they ruined all of their lives.
Speaker 1: But I know that they showed that they were like
Speaker 1: my husband doesn't recognize me anymore, and like we've grown apart.
Speaker 1: It was so fucked up, and you were just like,
Speaker 1: not everything that's entertaining should be on television, because like
Speaker 1: people would watch Execution. But it's all so in the
Speaker 1: same vein of Temptation Island where it really took, you know,
Speaker 1: finding out that a couple had a secret child and
Speaker 1: that they were like a casualty of the show to
Speaker 1: make you be like, oh, it was really a bad show.
Speaker 1: I don't know about this Temptation Island. Well. The most
Speaker 1: singer is also like, it's funny that people are talking
Speaker 1: about such a January show. I love August entertainment. I
Speaker 1: love January, best months for new stuff. So yeah, the judge,
Speaker 1: Escape Room, the judging panel, Yeah, you loved Escape Room.
Speaker 1: The judging panel is like Ken Jong uh, Jenny McCarthy
Speaker 1: boom thick boom okay, and one more person no booo.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a fun factor about Nicole Shares gender. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but can you say your name? One more Shares shares
Speaker 1: in I got sharts. The original read aura Um is
Speaker 1: that the song Amber by three eleven is about her,
Speaker 1: the color of her energy, her energy. Yeah, she dated
Speaker 1: the guy from three eleven and he wrote that Amber
Speaker 1: a bad energy color. No, I don't know anything about
Speaker 1: the color of your energy. It's chill, guys. I just
Speaker 1: I just totally remembered something I buried for years. I
Speaker 1: had a sociology teacher, I believe, who had us read
Speaker 1: each other's aura's freshman year. I believe and I have
Speaker 1: I have completely that just like came back to me
Speaker 1: in a flash. Were talking about what was the color
Speaker 1: of your teen energy? I don't remember at all, but
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, why are we doing this in sociology?
Speaker 1: Did they interpret your for you? Somebody did we like
Speaker 1: took turn standing up in front of the like pulled
Speaker 1: down overhead screen, uh and and turned the lights out
Speaker 1: and apparently tried to read each other's or I don't
Speaker 1: really remember. I'm just like there was not an aura camera.
Speaker 1: First of all, I understand nothing about aura photography because no,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. I could not tell
Speaker 1: you anything because it's not real. It's I know it's
Speaker 1: not real, but I mean, like, how do they make that?
Speaker 1: It's your heat, your body heat, I know, but how
Speaker 1: do you capture it? Like heat? Can't that thing in
Speaker 1: the terminator's head? Okay, you know? So he was just
Speaker 1: an aura reader. Yeah, or Terminator is a mood ring,
Speaker 1: He's a he's a walking story everything. Terminator apologists New age.
Speaker 1: Terminator is very much our vibe on this podcast is
Speaker 1: I just want to hear a little tiny bit more
Speaker 1: about the Mass Singer. So, Molly, you watched it. They're
Speaker 1: both masked and they it's two people battling. I just
Speaker 1: need to know different battles. And then I thought it
Speaker 1: was just the guessing part. No, it's there's also a
Speaker 1: complicated it is versus. And then at the beginning they
Speaker 1: tell you what the battles are and it's literally like
Speaker 1: hippo versus unicorn, peacock versus horse. Um, and you said
Speaker 1: one of the masked singer spoiler alert. They reveal one
Speaker 1: of the Mass singers at the end of each episode,
Speaker 1: and I was mostly curious about, like what like level
Speaker 1: of celebrity we're talking about here, Like you got your answer,
Speaker 1: I got my answer, and the answer was Joey Fatone.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, right, do you ever have like you know,
Speaker 1: when you're watching something from the seventies or eighties and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, everybody was on so much cocaine,
Speaker 1: Like people are going to look back on this air
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my god, everybody was on so
Speaker 1: much CBD. It's like the weirdest most like half awake,
Speaker 1: half remembered idea for a show like I think a
Speaker 1: hippo and a lion battled each I only complained is
Speaker 1: like the song selections are very American Idol. I wish
Speaker 1: it was weirder fight song. It would be great if
Speaker 1: it was just all like the Pinion Colada song. I
Speaker 1: always want them to choose their own song. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's always been my issue with Idol. It's interesting to
Speaker 1: see like what the mentors choose, of course, because it
Speaker 1: makes them all seem like they just stopped listening to
Speaker 1: music at a certain point a long time ago, and
Speaker 1: they're just like, I only know four songs. Now, we'll
Speaker 1: get you something edgy, how about Benny and the Jet exactly.
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's what's nice in a way
Speaker 1: about the voice. They choose their going your false, going
Speaker 1: your fault. They like get to choose. I would assume
Speaker 1: I always thought on the voice they chose their own songs,
Speaker 1: but it seems like in particular with the mass singer,
Speaker 1: even if there should be that element because it speaks
Speaker 1: to who you are inside, right, Well, maybe give it
Speaker 1: away too much. Yeah, but in a way, it's like
Speaker 1: a it's a good clue because you could choose a
Speaker 1: song that doesn't fit with your image and trick everybody.
Speaker 1: It also fits into the bird Box universe. You know that.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. It's all about things you can't see.
Speaker 1: Things you can't see exactly. You're going just by voice,
Speaker 1: and you can be tricked and escape room to right,
Speaker 1: is there some sense isolation and escape room? Go with
Speaker 1: me here? No, But there's like the elements. There's like
Speaker 1: there's like a room that's just ice, in a room
Speaker 1: that's just fire. Do they take place in reality? In reality,
Speaker 1: like in the world, or like in a constructed environment?
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Uh, they go to they go.
Speaker 1: The people in the movie think that they are in
Speaker 1: an escape room, like a really really detailed, like high
Speaker 1: budget escape room. It's still like but yeah, in fact,
Speaker 1: there they are trying to be killed by somebody. It's
Speaker 1: so good, it's highly recommend it too spooky maybe for me,
Speaker 1: but no, No, this is the thing about it. It's
Speaker 1: like not a horror movie. It's just a suspense movie
Speaker 1: with puzzles, Like, it's not there's not that much gore.
Speaker 1: It's rated PG. Thirteen. It's just like we're in a
Speaker 1: crazy upside down room. Now, how are we going to
Speaker 1: get out of it? It's a puzzle, which I've recently
Speaker 1: gotten really into puzzles me too. Really, yeah, is this
Speaker 1: the new coloring? Is everybody just simultane say like, I
Speaker 1: love puzzles? You know? I was always really underwhelmed by
Speaker 1: the coloring fat I don't know. I mean, I understand
Speaker 1: it's very soothing, but I didn't care and I never
Speaker 1: wanted to see what anyone was coloring like. It didn't
Speaker 1: interest me. But puzzles, But puzzles are very interesting. I
Speaker 1: got these cube butts. I got them from a friend
Speaker 1: of mine. I stole them from my kid, and they're really,
Speaker 1: really hard, to the point where I have to there
Speaker 1: are three dimensional puzzles that look like little men made
Speaker 1: out of wood cube and it's so hard. There's one
Speaker 1: that's teeny tiny and it's been like months, it's been months.
Speaker 1: I can't find a YouTube on how to solve him.
Speaker 1: So I've just been like, like nice wedding, I just
Speaker 1: get frustrated and give up. Try it now, Molly, you
Speaker 1: might be in a different place. I don't think. I
Speaker 1: found I like Tetris Dr Mario the other day. How
Speaker 1: was it fantastic? Imagine Tetris, but like without the time
Speaker 1: constraint and then with at the music getting faster, like
Speaker 1: you can just chill out and stare at the puzzle.
Speaker 1: I mean I did. I did like a regular puzzle
Speaker 1: over the holidays. I feel like people were posting puzzle
Speaker 1: content because it's a wholesome, wholesome activity, very stress relieving,
Speaker 1: because it refocuses your stress back onto yourself where it belongs.
Speaker 1: You know, kind of just defaults to like your lizard
Speaker 1: brain a little bit exactly. Yeah, like baking, blinking baking.
Speaker 1: If I said blinking, suppose you have to do it?
Speaker 1: You really have no charge? Terrible. There's some lizards who
Speaker 1: don't blink. Well, there's the ones that lick their eyeballs
Speaker 1: get goes. How does that make you feel that they
Speaker 1: like their eyeballs? Feels great? I wish you could, wouldn't you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, I wish we all could. If
Speaker 1: you have something in your eyes, thinking when you were
Speaker 1: in high school, like you would like each other's eyeballocking
Speaker 1: somebody's eye, and it was kind of like it was
Speaker 1: kind of a sex thing, but it was like people
Speaker 1: would do it on a day or kind of like
Speaker 1: going to spin the bottle type area. You just dressed
Speaker 1: a really memory of mine. I don't even know. You
Speaker 1: don't remember there was that was a thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. I was too busy just
Speaker 1: putting stack in those quarters on domin Oh, guys, should
Speaker 1: we take a nightcall. Let's take any Let's take a
Speaker 1: night email. This is a night email from friend of
Speaker 1: the podcast to Aurora, who came to our first live show.
Speaker 1: Shout out Aura um Aurora wrote with more information about
Speaker 1: the Integratron. More about the Integratron and its creator, George
Speaker 1: van Tassel's direct connection to UFOs. The Integratron was originally
Speaker 1: built as a rejuvenation machine, an electromagnetic wave oscillator contained
Speaker 1: in a fifty ft diameter dome in the desert near Landers,
Speaker 1: constructed in the fifties and sixties by George van Tassel,
Speaker 1: a former test pilot for Hughes and Douglas aircraft, who
Speaker 1: moved into a hollowed out boulder near the Integratron site
Speaker 1: in seven that'll come into play later. Van Tassel was
Speaker 1: interested in UFO contacts and the metaphysics of George Lahovski,
Speaker 1: on whose principles the Integratron is based. The mechanical apparatus
Speaker 1: that generated the healing energy disappeared after Van Tassel died
Speaker 1: in in the early two thousand's, sisters Joanne Nancy and
Speaker 1: Patty Carl purchased the Integratron. It has since become a
Speaker 1: popular attraction, known for its sound bath meditation sessions. There
Speaker 1: you go. George Van Tassel also lived underneath Giant Rock nearby,
Speaker 1: where he organized several UFO conventions in the fifties to
Speaker 1: the seventies. Nation. Yeah, I mean, I do remember hearing
Speaker 1: that the Integratron is not actually the way it's supposed to,
Speaker 1: like the way that he intended it to be built,
Speaker 1: like rejuvenation machine. Yeah, like like it's not the full thing,
Speaker 1: the full uh finished product. If you are going to
Speaker 1: build a compelling like if you wanted to either you know,
Speaker 1: trick people or you thought like something might actually work
Speaker 1: and you were building a rejuvenation center, what would be
Speaker 1: in it? I mean, I think you just get people
Speaker 1: out to the desert and they're willing to bite on
Speaker 1: whatever you tell them. It's going to happen. I think
Speaker 1: you want a really hot salty salty salty we've been
Speaker 1: talking about a hot salty bath. A hot salty bath
Speaker 1: to me, Well, I mean, send along an article then
Speaker 1: we'll talk about in a minute about the school of
Speaker 1: practical philosophy. But it made me think about how like
Speaker 1: there's this weird kind of gray area between reality and
Speaker 1: the constraints of physics, and you know that certain things
Speaker 1: can't be done, but then there's that like what if
Speaker 1: kind of zone you know where you're like, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's also like you know, epsom salts for instance,
Speaker 1: like taking an epsom salts bath if you look online
Speaker 1: about like the uses of epsom salts, and like the
Speaker 1: the qualities that people think that up some salts have
Speaker 1: and like you know, how they can truly heal you
Speaker 1: and stuff. You're like, Okay, I believe it up until here,
Speaker 1: and then I don't believe it past then. But it
Speaker 1: made me think like I'd be really great at starting
Speaker 1: like a kind of like a cult because because there
Speaker 1: are so many things like the absence this is that's
Speaker 1: obviously what this podcast is eventually about many times I
Speaker 1: feel some salt of podcasts exactly like Emily's aura reading
Speaker 1: teacher and our math teacher who's into the zodiac. I
Speaker 1: always think that's interesting where it's like you you just
Speaker 1: assume that like science, people don't believe in like crazy things,
Speaker 1: but that's not true at all, Like so much of science.
Speaker 1: I was really obsessed with alchemy for a long time.
Speaker 1: You wrote a great player about but I was just
Speaker 1: like the idea was, like so much of chemistry came
Speaker 1: out of alchemy, right, stem Like do crazy impossible things
Speaker 1: also crystals? I mean, like, look, do I have any understanding,
Speaker 1: like any any cause effect, whether it's actually real or not.
Speaker 1: But like to be able to think about some sort
Speaker 1: of taxonomy and system of like one thing affecting another,
Speaker 1: like that can be fun, like even if it's totally fake,
Speaker 1: Like just to think about, you know, a way of
Speaker 1: organizing your understanding of the world. It makes things makes sense,
Speaker 1: so you don't feel crazy some people. I went into
Speaker 1: crystal store the other day and sort of reached my
Speaker 1: limit of crystals, which is that I was like, here's
Speaker 1: the thing, because like the person who worked there was
Speaker 1: talking about like charging them in the moon and they
Speaker 1: will give you positive energy. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: but you know what's very therapeutic is making yourself go
Speaker 1: through these weird rich It's not the people who are
Speaker 1: really into like holding them, because it's like a worry
Speaker 1: stone exactly, like something to absorb your anxiety if you're
Speaker 1: like on a plane or something. But in a way,
Speaker 1: it also has like a video game quality of like
Speaker 1: giving yourself a task that doesn't it's not a practical task.
Speaker 1: I mean literally being like picked up an object, put
Speaker 1: it in the moonlight, like it means you're going outside
Speaker 1: like an area at night, and then like going inside,
Speaker 1: like having completed this weird task that you assigned yourself.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a very as soon as people
Speaker 1: are spending money on it, I feel like, but here's
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. It's like what I find
Speaker 1: so silly about that kind of crystal stuff, and obviously
Speaker 1: it's a big part of New Age stuff. Is what's
Speaker 1: amazing about crystals is that the fucking Earth made them.
Speaker 1: Like when you go to the Hall of Gems as
Speaker 1: a kid, and you're just like, all of these things
Speaker 1: exist in nature for some reason, Like that is amazing
Speaker 1: to me. You don't need to put anything on top
Speaker 1: of that exactly. But if there weren't people who were
Speaker 1: obsessed with categorizing them and like talking about their energies
Speaker 1: and talking about their differences, you might fail to like
Speaker 1: notice them in the way that you do. Man mean
Speaker 1: for me also, like for something like a diamond, like
Speaker 1: the fact that it's so dense that light moves through
Speaker 1: it in a different way, that's enough for me, Like
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I mean that was like a prism, just
Speaker 1: a good old fashioned prism. Is PRIs are cool. I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up, just as a side note about
Speaker 1: the integratron because I think I was kind of when
Speaker 1: I was trying to summarize the integratron last week, I
Speaker 1: was kind of, I think, blending the mythology of the
Speaker 1: Integratron and Star fire Water. Yes about Star fire Water. Uh,
Speaker 1: Star fire Water. It is a water bottled water that
Speaker 1: is sold. I've only ever seen it in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: but I note for sure they sell it at M Cafe,
Speaker 1: and I make a point of getting one. We've had
Speaker 1: our last couple of like night call lunches at M
Speaker 1: Cafe near the studio spoiler, and they sell star fire
Speaker 1: water because I need it for can I guess what?
Speaker 1: I think? It is full of charged crystals. Well, it
Speaker 1: gets better. Um, I'm gonna read you. This is the
Speaker 1: label of star fire water. First, the fire legend has
Speaker 1: it that the mystical star fire was the liquid manna
Speaker 1: of the divine, used by the ancients for ultra focus,
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Speaker 1: that this is not about halfway done. More text induced.
Speaker 1: Using a solar helix and pyramid grid pattern to give
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Speaker 1: are able to achieve a water with cosmic healing energy.
Speaker 1: This water is amplified with some kind of sonic wave.
Speaker 1: I can't read it on the label. Oscillation tuned to
Speaker 1: the planet's frequency, and it becomes illegible after a certain
Speaker 1: point out here because I'm looking at a bad picture.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, all together, we've created the words world's finest
Speaker 1: performance living hexagonal superstructured water. So you can go. There's
Speaker 1: a YouTube address on the back bottle, a YouTube hyperlink
Speaker 1: which I I did look at and it has like
Speaker 1: one thousand views on it or something. But it's just
Speaker 1: somebody at like some kind of health food fair talking
Speaker 1: about how oh yeah it does. I do feel energized
Speaker 1: with this water. Um it has a picture of like
Speaker 1: a like a bird and a ying yang and stuff.
Speaker 1: Didn't make you feel hexagonal. It's nice tasting water. It's
Speaker 1: cost about six dollars for a bottle, so that's that's hexagonal,
Speaker 1: Like six dollars six sides, not some living water. You
Speaker 1: can make a pet, you can make a buck, yeah,
Speaker 1: seeing guys, but it's like the only bottle. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: get it at a at a cafe. There's like another place,
Speaker 1: I think downtown somewhere where they had a selection of waters,
Speaker 1: and um that was one of them. There was also
Speaker 1: the Beverly Hills Water b H two. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's fun to one of my favorite waters. Water
Speaker 1: saved my life with that hidden water. Are you still
Speaker 1: thinking about that? Him? Yeah? Is that the slightly minty water?
Speaker 1: Now it's a slightly flavored with fruit water. It's like
Speaker 1: a flat LACROI, but it has a stronger flavor of
Speaker 1: lacroy And. I don't know though, Emily, if you smells
Speaker 1: a lot of weed, you might like this water. That
Speaker 1: was what led me to this water, was being like,
Speaker 1: I don't like the taste of normal water, like I
Speaker 1: need something punchier, but not like some normal water. I'm
Speaker 1: not into normal water in general. I don't drink a
Speaker 1: lot of water. I should got to drink your water.
Speaker 1: I don't like to drink. I brought it open the
Speaker 1: floodgates to hydration, O the porous. My mom doesn't like
Speaker 1: the flavor of water. She only drinks carbonated water. She
Speaker 1: will not drink flat water. And I felt weird about
Speaker 1: carbonated water because when you're very thirsty, like burns. I
Speaker 1: was so thirsty last night because we ate raman, and
Speaker 1: then you offered me a water. I always have water
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Speaker 1: should all go to Arijuan and just all pick out
Speaker 1: the they definitely have or Arijuan And it's a made
Speaker 1: up thing. It's nowhere, but I've been there. It's It's
Speaker 1: one of those places that I go and I can't
Speaker 1: find anything to eat in there, Like nothing's ring in
Speaker 1: any bells for me, Like activated am no, I don't
Speaker 1: like sprouted things. Not a grain person. You adle person.
Speaker 1: I'm such a help noodle person. Oh my god, they're
Speaker 1: so good. They don't have any calories. That's I like
Speaker 1: all the silly health food. I feel like it's something
Speaker 1: about being from California. Just like salad. I love salad too,
Speaker 1: but I but the salads that I like are not
Speaker 1: Where do you fall on a hippie sandwich? I like
Speaker 1: hippie sandwich is fine, but the bread cannot have seeds
Speaker 1: in it because they can't ice and they can't about it.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with oh, sprouts are a deal deal killer.
Speaker 1: I like the leaving an entire plant that makes me
Speaker 1: feel powerful. Sprouts Yesterday, I buy sprouts, go to Sprouts.
Speaker 1: Oh you go to Sprouts. Sprouts Sproud squared. So we're
Speaker 1: going to take a night call from our buddy Holly,
Speaker 1: who has a question about the desert again. Hey, night call.
Speaker 1: This is Holly, and I was wondering, what do you
Speaker 1: think it is about the American Southwest, like geographically that
Speaker 1: inspires so many other worldly stories or inspires actual aliens
Speaker 1: to land there? Who knows? Thanks, love you guys, bye,
Speaker 1: Thank you Holly for giving us a good question. Thanks Holly.
Speaker 1: Full disclosure. That's Holly Anderson, friend of the Pod. So I, um,
Speaker 1: this is like barely related, but it made me think
Speaker 1: of this. I got the like one of the only
Speaker 1: blue rays I own. Um, but it's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite movies and came out on Criterion. But True Stories,
Speaker 1: the David Byrne movie. And there's some quote in it
Speaker 1: because it takes place in Texas, and there was some
Speaker 1: quote I think from I think it was from David Byrne,
Speaker 1: who is like, there's something about a like the bigger spaces,
Speaker 1: the wider the space, the more empty space there is
Speaker 1: theoretically everybody should have space to do whatever they want
Speaker 1: and be into whatever they want, and nobody should feel
Speaker 1: like somebody else doing what they're into or getting into
Speaker 1: whatever weird thing they're into, is infringing on their space.
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes that doesn't always bear out, maybe
Speaker 1: especially in more conservative parts of Texas, but I think
Speaker 1: like that's sort of the thing I when we were
Speaker 1: talking about um New Mexico yesterd Or last week, that
Speaker 1: was sort of the thing I dug about it. It
Speaker 1: felt like you're kind of you have the real estate
Speaker 1: to wave your freak flag, to believe the things you
Speaker 1: want to believe, to get into whatever conspiracy theories you
Speaker 1: want to get into, and nobody's gonna nobody's gonna rain
Speaker 1: on your parade, literally because there's no rain. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: seems very conducive to UFO stuff is just being having
Speaker 1: a lot of time to look at the sky and
Speaker 1: having a lot of sky not blocked out by skyscrapers.
Speaker 1: I think they're so also something at this point. And
Speaker 1: so we're gonna be talking about Roswell New Mexico again
Speaker 1: because it's going to be on tomorrow. If you're listening
Speaker 1: to this the day the podcast comes out, and there's
Speaker 1: something about now, especially like at this point someplace like Roswell.
Speaker 1: It's also like a like a self propelling myth, like
Speaker 1: it's part of the DNA of that area. Now it
Speaker 1: is just like alien ship. Yeah, and it's like Americana
Speaker 1: because it's like yeah, and it's like very atomic age
Speaker 1: stuff and right side attraction stuff of like yeah, you
Speaker 1: have a car and you can drive places now, and
Speaker 1: like what will make you go to a place? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just still thinking about why aliens would land in
Speaker 1: the desert, and yeah, let's talk about this question. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to say that it's because it's the only
Speaker 1: place where there's enough like clearing to land yourself, right right,
Speaker 1: that's it. No, it's not theory, that's just the truth. Like,
Speaker 1: think about it. What else would they do? I liked
Speaker 1: when we came up with last which is that they're
Speaker 1: coming for the Christmas style chili. Well that's definitely true,
Speaker 1: but it's also like you don't want to if you're
Speaker 1: landing a spaceship. What if, like at your home planet,
Speaker 1: you don't have trees, you don't know what they are,
Speaker 1: like the mountains, irregular terrain, it's all like really hard
Speaker 1: to look the most like the Martian landscape. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's also like it's like if you pass, you know,
Speaker 1: a supermarket, and you see like a big, huge empty
Speaker 1: parking lot, even if you don't need anything, you're like,
Speaker 1: seems really easy to just pop in. So that's what
Speaker 1: they're thinking. If we were if you think about humans
Speaker 1: going and exploring other planets and trying to find a
Speaker 1: place to land that feels like it would be um
Speaker 1: like friendly or at least easy to traverse, we would
Speaker 1: probably look for a place that's like near a body
Speaker 1: of water that has growing things and that kind of
Speaker 1: like with something that feels earth like. And if you're
Speaker 1: coming from say Mars Like, you're gonna look for the
Speaker 1: thing that looks most Mars like. It makes sense. And
Speaker 1: the place with the Christmas chili and life giving nutrients. Also,
Speaker 1: like the desert has been subbed for alien places in
Speaker 1: film and TV so much like the soundtrack is all
Speaker 1: just shot in like the desert there, like we're on
Speaker 1: another world because it's California. The idea that they're not
Speaker 1: inhospitable to life, they're just hospitable to different kinds of life.
Speaker 1: Different kinds of life you guys went to the Interactive
Speaker 1: Experience Boulevard for Rosalond, New Mexico. And in the show,
Speaker 1: So Liz, who's the main character, her family owns this
Speaker 1: diner called the Crashed Down Diner, which is like an
Speaker 1: alien theme diner, which looks super awesome, and I wish
Speaker 1: we could hang out there and record our podcast there. Well,
Speaker 1: I r l, but you did the next best thing,
Speaker 1: which is you went to like a recreation of it
Speaker 1: that was on Sunset Boulevard. Yeah, it was called Crashdown
Speaker 1: on Sunset and it was in the Old Tower Records,
Speaker 1: which I was obviously very excited about on the Sunset Strip,
Speaker 1: And so I picked us up and we went there
Speaker 1: last night and it was super fun and they had
Speaker 1: the crash Down Cafe inside and we legit like hung
Speaker 1: out there for so long, for so long. It's like
Speaker 1: a very Twin PEAKSI type like fake diner. And they
Speaker 1: had a jukebox that was playing like three Dog Night one,
Speaker 1: Harry Nelson's one. It was all like songs that we
Speaker 1: like anyway, and there was fake food. There was fake food.
Speaker 1: Top food and drinks are like something that I just
Speaker 1: never gets there. Looking at the fall, there was like
Speaker 1: a fake cherry pie and like a fake some of
Speaker 1: the things could be moved off the table, but others
Speaker 1: could not, so we had to go through everything to
Speaker 1: find out what things love that. That sounds so fun.
Speaker 1: It was so fun. And then the Sheldren's Museum um um.
Speaker 1: And then there was like a setup with some alien
Speaker 1: eggs that color when you touch them. Spoiler alert there
Speaker 1: are alien eggs in Roswell, New Mexico the show. And
Speaker 1: then it was funny, yeah, because all the like alien
Speaker 1: environments just felt very like a chill out room. Yeah
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, like, oh I could just hang out here.
Speaker 1: That had been like an attent to Coachella, you know,
Speaker 1: it would have been totally totally By the way, that's
Speaker 1: a good idea to bring. Let somebody get on that
Speaker 1: sponsored tie in pop ups to Coachella so that you
Speaker 1: can hang out, ride out, your your freak out with
Speaker 1: the alien eggs into it. It was really it was
Speaker 1: fun and everybody there was really nice. Yeah, we did
Speaker 1: all of the things and then we went back to
Speaker 1: the diner. That was the thing. We like finished the
Speaker 1: course of photo things and then we were like, let's
Speaker 1: just go hang out in the diner. Some more, what
Speaker 1: if they just like leave it, Like nobody else wants
Speaker 1: that space, so they just like make it a real diner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were saying, there's also there's like a Saved by
Speaker 1: the Bell diner that's a pop up that's just kind
Speaker 1: of seemingly semi permanent, and it's it was always really
Speaker 1: busy because it's the Math. It's by Target, so you're
Speaker 1: milling around outside and you're like, Oh, I should go in,
Speaker 1: and then it's like weirdly always crowded. It's going to
Speaker 1: be featured on this season of vander Punk Roles apparently,
Speaker 1: which is going to be featured on this season of Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we talked to the people also who did the
Speaker 1: Roswell pop up because we were like, oh, we're here
Speaker 1: from a podcast and like, what, how do you guys
Speaker 1: involved with this? And they were saying they worked for
Speaker 1: the company that put on the pop up that has
Speaker 1: also done other like experiential l a pop up things,
Speaker 1: including the House from It that was at Hollywood and
Speaker 1: Vine for several months. Um, and then I guess you
Speaker 1: went through it and it eventually became like a larger
Speaker 1: haunt somewhere else. But it looked terrifying because there was
Speaker 1: like it looked too scary. I almost went and then
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know, Actually the clown well,
Speaker 1: I think like you guys wanting to hang out at
Speaker 1: the diner kind of speaks to I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think I really like dig the world of the show
Speaker 1: because it's like it is that kind of thing that's
Speaker 1: super Americanish and kind of cookie and you kind of
Speaker 1: feel like there could be a lot of interesting things
Speaker 1: that happened in a town where everybody's like kind of
Speaker 1: obsessed with slash, sick of hearing about aliens. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we were hearing actually from our producer Roy who knows
Speaker 1: some people in New Mexico, that it is like that
Speaker 1: that everything the local culture of the town, so everybody
Speaker 1: celebrates it as like the town's culture. And there's a
Speaker 1: UFO festival tests go with the pronunciation of upology uthology uthology,
Speaker 1: and we should go. Um, there's another one in the
Speaker 1: l a in the High Desert, I think, which we
Speaker 1: could also check out thanks passing like a Joshua tree, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I could skype into that, though, you guys want.
Speaker 1: I also like in Roswell, I became very fond of
Speaker 1: the like nostalgia aspect. Liz is ending up going back,
Speaker 1: and then there's high school reunion and obviously you know
Speaker 1: there are tensions that are existent still from um high
Speaker 1: school years. It's their tenth three union, I think. But
Speaker 1: they played I was Molly. Molly and I were watching
Speaker 1: the show at the same time, and uh, definitely harkened
Speaker 1: back to the Counting Crows record that came out. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, yes, well yes, yeah, But also, did you
Speaker 1: guys know that Mrs Potter's Lullaby was about Monica Potter
Speaker 1: the actress ended up going on some dates with Adam
Speaker 1: Durret's which is also just like a strange addition to that. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is that. This is the rumor. This is the rumor.
Speaker 1: Song Facks backs me up. I don't say it's about ufs. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. One of Counting Crows is about us. Well,
Speaker 1: if there's going to be an alien walking among us,
Speaker 1: could it be Durrets. Oh, I was gonna say animal crow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're so smart, they're very smart. But there are a
Speaker 1: lot of birds. Let's get back um right in the
Speaker 1: In the pilot episode, Liz comes back to a town
Speaker 1: she kind of reunites with her high school sweetheart and Max,
Speaker 1: and then very quickly it becomes apparent. But Max is
Speaker 1: one of several aliens that landed in Roswell in the
Speaker 1: famous nineteen is that right crash and he's just kind
Speaker 1: of been chilling incognito as a hot police officer, as
Speaker 1: a hot copt very confusing. Can you imagine it's high
Speaker 1: end and be like I'm gonna police this, I'm it's
Speaker 1: Julius for like you just want to like hang out
Speaker 1: and live our lives. Well, because they're by a lot
Speaker 1: well spoiler spoiler spoiler there they are both assimilated humans
Speaker 1: and aliens because you were a true blood, right, And
Speaker 1: I was saying that too, But I think the interesting
Speaker 1: thing about this one because it is it does have
Speaker 1: a lot of that kind of like it also from
Speaker 1: was in tu Yeah, but like Jessica the hot vampire, right,
Speaker 1: But like, I think the thing that makes it kind
Speaker 1: of interesting is not that they're these predators that are
Speaker 1: kind of living among the humans, but that they're like
Speaker 1: actually scared and like trying to like hide themselves, which
Speaker 1: feels a lot more interesting, Like they're more vulnerable than
Speaker 1: just like sexy predators, No, for sure, and they make
Speaker 1: it very apparent early on that like the metaphor is intentional, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it seen as you were saying, it's like somebody
Speaker 1: getting stopped by ice and other Lizz's father is documented.
Speaker 1: We're talking about one would you dated an alien if
Speaker 1: a body of a human? And also what if you
Speaker 1: found out your high school sweetheart had been an alien
Speaker 1: all along? There are so many people who you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if you found out they've been an alien
Speaker 1: all along? Who was chief among them? Test made a
Speaker 1: list of hot aliens. I think the idea that maybe
Speaker 1: super hot people are aliens is a good theory. Remember
Speaker 1: that period when models all look like aliens. The very
Speaker 1: high cheekbones, right, I have the triangle face looks like
Speaker 1: an alien. So Tess was saying, she was like, who's
Speaker 1: the hotest alien? And I was like, our aliens really hot?
Speaker 1: Normally because I think of an alien from alien who's
Speaker 1: hot in their own way? Obviously that's generous, but I
Speaker 1: feel like we should check in with these hot aliens.
Speaker 1: I have Jeff Goldblum from Earth Girls are easy, of
Speaker 1: all the Earth Girls are easy? Yeah, Bowie, we mentioned
Speaker 1: last week, but still like re emphasized that Jeff Bridges
Speaker 1: in I must say that I have to qualify that
Speaker 1: he is taking a human form of a dead husband.
Speaker 1: If memory serves, I think he's like shape shifting. I
Speaker 1: like that aliens hot seventies guys like the dad in
Speaker 1: Um in Contact too, Like that's an alien in the shape.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that counts because obviously, if you
Speaker 1: shape shift, you're going to shape shift into someone hot.
Speaker 1: It's not like how you look. But again, the idea
Speaker 1: is like, maybe we wouldn't know, we wouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to comprehend. It would be as though we were wearing
Speaker 1: a blindfold from bird Box. It's true, exactly, keep trying
Speaker 1: it back to bird Thank you, thank you. And then
Speaker 1: also Mila Djovivica number one obviously who who I think
Speaker 1: is like a believable personification of a hot alien. I
Speaker 1: was also to bring it all background saying the fifth
Speaker 1: Element opera scene is exactly what the masked singer is like,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what you think the future will be like?
Speaker 1: And now in the weird cyberpunk future, it's like, give
Speaker 1: us the weird cyberpunk show. Yeah as well, it's like
Speaker 1: in episode three of Star Wars the the Prequels where
Speaker 1: they go to an opera and it's just like balls
Speaker 1: of light in an in an arena. Anyway, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bring up another. I'm gonna bring another really geeky example
Speaker 1: of a hot alien, which is gen Zia Dax in
Speaker 1: uh Star Trek Deep Space nine. But she's not so again,
Speaker 1: it's it's sort of a stretch. She's a host body
Speaker 1: for um a trill, which is like a it's like
Speaker 1: this many hundreds I think hundreds of years old creatures. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: not for me, but like a lot of people think,
Speaker 1: I like, I like the Zachary Quinto Spock. I think, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: um no, I won't let you do that. Um. Also
Speaker 1: christ and Johnson and Third Rock from the Sun. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's uh. Those are all the hot aliens. Who else
Speaker 1: is a hot alien? There have to be more So
Speaker 1: if somebody wanted to get with you but they were
Speaker 1: an alien, would you feel like they automatically had ulterior motives? Oh? Species,
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of. She's a yeah that
Speaker 1: would you get with an alien or would you be
Speaker 1: like nervous that they were going to, like what abduct you? Also,
Speaker 1: this is a I was looking this up for other
Speaker 1: reasons this week, but this is considered a um close
Speaker 1: encounter of the seventh kind. When you mate with an alien, Uh,
Speaker 1: that's there's levels here the seventh kind. Before that, there's
Speaker 1: all sorts of the like where are you, uh, communication
Speaker 1: touch all that, but like mating or or when a
Speaker 1: hybrid is produced. I believe it's the seventh kind. Is
Speaker 1: there stuff beyond seventh? Is that like to eight base
Speaker 1: an e shase? But the alien? I mean I would
Speaker 1: do it. I wouldn't be too paranoidal. I think what
Speaker 1: we've learned is that the aliens are going to be
Speaker 1: really hot, so that would be you know, if that's
Speaker 1: something you're concerned about. I love how the aliens are
Speaker 1: hot on Roswell, but they also like arrived in these
Speaker 1: glowing pink eggs, Like that's so adorable to me. I
Speaker 1: I just like it's so in deary. I think we
Speaker 1: have yet to learn if they have any memories of
Speaker 1: for Earth. That's like kind of what I am curious
Speaker 1: about is because if they don't, then aren't they just
Speaker 1: like super They basically are like people with superpowers? Kind
Speaker 1: of did you like the powers. Out of This World
Speaker 1: was so good. It's my other favorite. Do you ever
Speaker 1: watch Out of This World? I did not. It was
Speaker 1: a sitcom about a girl who was an alien and
Speaker 1: she talked to her dad through a glowing orb. It
Speaker 1: was like Crystal. He gave her advice from It was
Speaker 1: just part of the weird eighties shows where people were
Speaker 1: doing so much coke that they were like, yeah, she's
Speaker 1: an alien. It was an alien. Well, there's also the
Speaker 1: one Small Wonder I was thinking about. Small Wonder was
Speaker 1: good too. Yeah, Robot robaby robots come after aliens. I
Speaker 1: mean they can all exist in the same plane. Like
Speaker 1: with crystals. Man, They're just like they are what you
Speaker 1: want them to be there, just other So the premiere
Speaker 1: of Roswell the premiere episode is on January fift which,
Speaker 1: if you're again, if you're listening to this the day
Speaker 1: we dropped, then this should be tomorrow, uh, and then
Speaker 1: it'll be available on CW to stream on CWS app.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm excited to see more of it.
Speaker 1: It's it feels like good to have a good paranormal
Speaker 1: teen show, or like why a adjacent show it to
Speaker 1: the happy about I like a big practical effect egg
Speaker 1: hot guy in it who doesn't so. Um, we wanted
Speaker 1: to really quickly just talk about slash point people to
Speaker 1: an article on the outline UM about the School of
Speaker 1: Practical Philosophy, which if you have ever lived in New
Speaker 1: York you are probably familiar with or have seen adds
Speaker 1: for on the subway, articled by Katie Bloom, and she
Speaker 1: kind of just like decided to take the bait because
Speaker 1: these these posters are have always been in the subway,
Speaker 1: I think, for you know, I've seen them as long
Speaker 1: as I've been here. I think they've been around for decades.
Speaker 1: But UM kind of offering these introductory general practice philosophy
Speaker 1: classes and they you know, promise happiness or you know,
Speaker 1: a greater understanding of life all things that sound great.
Speaker 1: And the School of Practical Philosophy that sounds like like
Speaker 1: I'm interested in practical philosophy. I think we talked about
Speaker 1: this a little bit when Richard Lawson was on the podcast,
Speaker 1: because he's also kind of that's something. It's a New
Speaker 1: York specific it is it from growing up. But obviously
Speaker 1: have there plenty of billboards for weird things in l A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a very I don't know, it's like the
Speaker 1: New York version of it, and it doesn't seem as
Speaker 1: dippy as like the l A version of it. Well,
Speaker 1: also because it's cheap, which is the best thing about
Speaker 1: it is that it's ten dollars. Yeah, and it's like
Speaker 1: a ten week course. And so anyway, uh, Katy Blue
Speaker 1: and the writer went and you know, was not impressed
Speaker 1: with her first class, and it just seemed like philosophy
Speaker 1: for people who don't want to like actually grapple with
Speaker 1: any questions. Like everything was just sort of like we're
Speaker 1: all a part of the truth of the world, like
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But then she kind of best
Speaker 1: nugget was when she said that her instructor posed a
Speaker 1: question for everyone to think about a challenging situation that
Speaker 1: they were like didn't know what to do. And then
Speaker 1: she the kind of solution to this that was supposed
Speaker 1: to be revelatory was well, what would a wise person do?
Speaker 1: And the it's like, well, if I knew that, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a problem, like what almost like a question,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like smooth brain philosophy. But it's a
Speaker 1: really interesting article. Uh, we wanted to get more stories.
Speaker 1: I think I think they're not nearly enough about things
Speaker 1: that are like not cults but kind of have the
Speaker 1: feeling the sort of packaging of a cult, especially things
Speaker 1: that exist in cities. I think, because that's that's a
Speaker 1: little it's you know, I feel like the image of
Speaker 1: an American cult is some kind of like commune out
Speaker 1: in the country. But I feel like if you were
Speaker 1: offering some sort of life improvement course or some kind
Speaker 1: of ten week program to improve your life or take
Speaker 1: money from people, I feel like city dwellers are like
Speaker 1: easier marks, just because like you're more likely to be
Speaker 1: run down and feel like, oh yeah, I could use
Speaker 1: some practical philosophy. But also the SPP like when she
Speaker 1: goes into the background of it, it does have many
Speaker 1: of the kind of like markings of a call. I mean,
Speaker 1: it has disconnection from family members who aren't involved, a
Speaker 1: lot of volunteer requirements. So I think we're looking for
Speaker 1: stories of things that are somewhere on the cult spectrum
Speaker 1: wherever that may fall. Right anything culty, but you should
Speaker 1: call us and tell us your experiences with these things,
Speaker 1: or your thoughts or fears about things to four oh
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Speaker 1: Call Podcast at gmail dot com And if you want
Speaker 1: to be anonymous, just let us know and we reveal
Speaker 1: your identity so the cults can't come after you. Um,
Speaker 1: but thanks everybody for listening this week. Will be back
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