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Speaker 1: Time now for a sports update on a podcast. Mets

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Speaker 1: sign reliever Devin Williams to a three year, fifty one

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Speaker 1: million dollar deal after a career worst four point seventy

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Speaker 1: nine er. Who, Kentucky hires Oregon offensive coordinator Will Stein

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Speaker 1: to replace Mark Stoops as its next head coach, And

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Speaker 1: finally who According to the World Happiness Index WHI, Finland

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Speaker 1: is the happiest country on Earth?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 3: Is he?

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Speaker 2: That's how the Mets do it?

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Speaker 1: They signed a guy to three years fifty one million

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Speaker 1: off his worst career era four point seven nine?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 4: Does Finland have a bunch of Disney.

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Speaker 2: Worlds in it?

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Speaker 3: Just socialism?

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Speaker 4: Hey, witty Chris Whitting, I'm joining us here. The reason

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Speaker 4: he has to speak up for himself and introduce himself

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Speaker 4: basically is because Taylor and Stu and Mikey have no

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Speaker 4: idea what he's on.

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Speaker 2: So thanks for having on with us.

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Speaker 3: Is that the production in planning that goes into this podcast?

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Speaker 3: That sounds well right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can tell you exactly. The fancy young lad

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Speaker 1: is always welcome here. He can come on whenever the

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Speaker 1: hell he wants to come on. I'm just wondering why

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Speaker 1: he's coming on in the middle of football season.

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Speaker 2: We usually have him on when the World Cup comes around.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, and it's also the middle of the

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Speaker 3: other football season, right, we're reaching the pinnacle of the

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Speaker 4: I used the because it's always an open door, like

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Speaker 4: you said, uh stu for Witty, So I used that

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Speaker 4: knowledge and just put in there, hey, can we get

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Speaker 4: Witty on Monday or Tuesday? This is over the weekend,

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Speaker 4: And they're like, sure, of course. And then I could

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Speaker 4: a distance and be like, they have no idea why

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Speaker 4: I want Witty on do this?

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Speaker 3: And Monday would have been Monday would have been ambitious,

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Speaker 3: is he we're coming off of We're coming off of

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Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin. We're coming off of a full NFL weekend,

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Speaker 3: a fantastic Thanksgiving slate that presumably you guys haven't reacted

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Speaker 3: to yet, and you're gonna come on and let's talk

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Speaker 3: about the MLS Eastern Conference Final. That would have been

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Speaker 3: quite the cell.

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Speaker 2: Now, Monday would have been better.

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Speaker 1: I needed you for Weekken observations winning him much easier

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Speaker 1: pronounced than Antonio.

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Speaker 4: If that's even how you pronounce it.

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Speaker 2: But witty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I texted that and then it took I

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Speaker 4: think two full days for I think it was Stuart

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Speaker 4: Taylor to be like, why why do we have what

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Speaker 4: are you on? And I'm just like, only because the

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Speaker 4: world's most famous soccer player is about to do what

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Speaker 4: Stu Gotts has required he do when he got to

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Speaker 4: the United States, but he is clueless about it.

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Speaker 2: All right, Soccer they just keep playing.

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Speaker 1: It goes round and around and around and around until

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Speaker 1: mess he wins something and I'm like, that's actually.

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Speaker 3: Not that's actually not an unfair criticism, thank you. Soccer

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Speaker 3: is on, like, soccer is on like three hundred and

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Speaker 3: sixty two days a year. So theoretically, if you wanted

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Speaker 3: to have me on at any point in the year,

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Speaker 3: there was something we could be talking about. There are

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Speaker 3: games going on on f on two right exactly, on Fox,

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Speaker 3: Soccer Plus on the Seed, Yes, Sports, Goldoss and Nework

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Speaker 3: available wherever you stream streaming channels. Yeah, there is always

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Speaker 3: something on whether that we could theoretically be talking about.

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Speaker 3: But I mean this is you know, the pinnacle of

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Speaker 3: the fact that they're now on the precipice of doing so,

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Speaker 4: And yet you still have confused face Taylor, what's wrong?

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Speaker 5: Taylor, Waity, Just to be clear, this was not a

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Speaker 5: knock on you. This was a knock on Izzy coming

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Speaker 5: to the show on Monday when we're all ready to

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Speaker 5: talk NFL, and the first thing he said he wants

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Speaker 2: I mean, he had zero points, hag god.

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Speaker 4: In my defense, not all I did, Waitty was say, hey, Stu,

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Speaker 2: And from there it turned.

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Speaker 4: Into a hilarious conversation. So you're welcome, Taylor. Yes, but

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Speaker 4: it was still a Monday.

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Speaker 3: That did that correct the sports update on a podcast?

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Speaker 2: No, it did not. It did not had zero points.

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Speaker 1: I could I was looking at the box score and

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Speaker 1: even though I saw the zero next to Kyante's name.

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Speaker 2: But is he is making a big.

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Speaker 1: Deal that Keyte George would have zero points in a game,

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Speaker 3: A was? Was he like zero points on the oh

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: What note worthy about this?

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Speaker 4: Very noteworthy? The man is a breakout star. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 3: I've never heard of, I've never I've never heard of.

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Speaker 4: He's Paul George's younger brother, nicknamed Cage.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 4: He's not any of these things?

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Speaker 2: And he had a big bounce back yesterday with twenty

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Speaker 4: An age of gambling controversies? Witty when a guy goes

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Speaker 4: Rozier would have watched and said, Yo, this motherfucker's gambling. Okay,

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Speaker 4: because it was zero points, eight turnovers and just giving

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Speaker 4: and whatever. They don't like basketball here, we are yet

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Speaker 4: interesting to them? Why did you brought us here?

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Speaker 3: Stude? Can you name one other jazz? Can you name

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Speaker 2: Market? Is there? Is he not?

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Speaker 3: Marketing? Is there?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's well done.

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Speaker 3: Is he really?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Kevin Love is still there, Kyle Anderson is still there.

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Speaker 4: That was the trade Norman Powell.

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Speaker 2: I did Norman Powell become fucking Michael Jordan? Jesus, there you.

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Speaker 4: Go better shout out to his heat career than Lebron.

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Speaker 4: But that's not why we have Wooty on Although Wit,

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Speaker 4: who is your NBA team? Is it still the Heat?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still the Heat. I'll be honest. Soccer is

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Speaker 3: I don't even think i'd really watch that much of it,

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Speaker 1: I'm in that same pick pool with Witty. It is

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Speaker 1: so frustrating just gambling on the NFL. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: love it so bad fan for sponsoring it. But I

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Speaker 1: think Witty has had oh my god, he's had weeks

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so so in the last five weeks, I

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Speaker 3: It's so fu I've gotten five consecutive games, right starting

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Speaker 3: it's so streaky. And again, I'm like looking at him, going,

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Speaker 3: I think what I'm gonna start doing is doing the

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Speaker 3: You should take the Patriots. So like, that's my new

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Speaker 3: But here we are.

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Speaker 2: In the game.

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Speaker 5: Telling you I was gonna ask, is this the one

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Speaker 5: that Chris Cody won?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, and I actually I won the regular season prize.

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Speaker 1: Last year, right, yes, Now here's a strange The only

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Speaker 2: The only one of us in contention that with money

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Speaker 4: I'm going to finish in dead last, finishing last.

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Speaker 3: So the prize for finishing dead last is you get

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean it, it's great.

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Speaker 3: Exactly the thing but no, but the thing is is

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Speaker 3: how do you go for it? How do you go

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Speaker 3: to intentionally pick football games incorrectly? Because like, right, exactly,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna start picking the garbage teams, well the

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Speaker 4: Right now, I'm going to do it without knowing anything

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Speaker 4: about the sport. Yeah, that sounds like idea. Wait, I

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Speaker 4: feel like you've had probably some level of this conversation

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Speaker 4: football Saturday. Although it's not exactly as bad as last year.

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Speaker 4: Last year the game was lined up MLS Cup exactly

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Speaker 4: the SEC Championship game. But I've stories, Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 4: I've seen a bunch of stories calling this like a

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Speaker 3: I think it's sort of difficult for a league like

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Speaker 3: MLS to cut through with this time of the year.

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Speaker 3: They had acknowledged that because they're moving their calendar starting

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty seven to look more like the European calendar,

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Speaker 3: So you have more of a chance going up against

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Speaker 3: Football is just such a difficult thing to counterbalance in

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Speaker 3: And what this team has offered over the course of

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Speaker 3: Right. I think there was this idea that MESSI would

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Speaker 1: Right, I gotta tell you. I know we're from Miami,

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Speaker 2: And I think we should get behind him. What do

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Speaker 3: Yeah Taco Oka, Yeah, Taco Oka has been magnificent. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Do you hate when I do this to you? Whitny?

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Speaker 3: No? No, no no, I'm actually good like I know,

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Speaker 2: I love you so much.

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Speaker 5: Ready. We had Adam Aman on and when he was on,

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Speaker 3: you doing this like Bears Lions game? Because you sound

441
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 3: like the guy who's on Fox right now. I have

442
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 3: been described as an audio duppelganger of Adam Amin, that

443
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 3: we sound the same. I don't hear it, but I've

444
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 3: gotten several tweets of this effect. I've had people text

445
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 3: me to this effect that we sound the same. And

446
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 3: I actually have corresponded with Adam Aman before going do

447
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: you get this, and I'm like, He's like no, But

448
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 3: I also have heard it from the other side. Does

449
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: that make sense to you, guys?

450
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Speaker 2: It does make sense.

451
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 1: I'd like to have you both on at the same time,

452
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,400
Speaker 1: will blindfold Izzy and we'll have busy guests who's answering the.

453
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,479
Speaker 4: Question Okay, I've actually got funny funny you should say that,

454
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 4: because I would love that opportunity. I've said this about

455
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 4: Chris Whittingham. There been Chris. There have been several times

456
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 4: where somebody's doing a game and I'm like, is that witty?

457
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 4: And the reason I can't figure it out is because

458
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 4: they have what I would consider a perfect voice, like

459
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 4: you can't. There's no distinction. You're just like speaking perfect English,

460
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 4: and I'm like.

461
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Speaker 2: I don't know who that is. It could be witty,

462
00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 2: it could.

463
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 4: Be somebody else. And it's the same thing that happened

464
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 4: to me with Adam Amen. I actual actually he has

465
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 4: a backup or another Bulls play by play guy that

466
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 4: does games who sounds very similar to him, and he

467
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 4: has the same problem. They speak too well.

468
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: I think that's what it is. It's sort of like

469
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 3: broadcaster voice I have, Like I get like tweets sometimes

470
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 3: from Lebatart shill, oh great call on this. I'm like,

471
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 3: I wasn't doing I'm not going I'm not going to

472
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Speaker 3: correct you. I'll take the credit for it, I suppose,

473
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 3: But it really is just sort of like soccer broadcaster diction.

474
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 3: We all have, we all kind of sound the same

475
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 3: We all studied it the same way, and we haven't

476
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Speaker 3: quite learned how to distinguish ourselves as yet.

477
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Speaker 4: But I think I know where I'm going with this one.

478
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Speaker 4: Speaking of diction, something else that you have laid claim

479
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Speaker 4: to h in your career is the fact that announcers

480
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 4: should just go ahead and use the word penis when

481
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 4: they are describing somebody getting hit in the junk. Now,

482
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 4: we don't need to sort of relitigate all of that.

483
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 4: I'm kind of with you. Just go ahead and say

484
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Speaker 4: what it is. The mid section is not the penis.

485
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 4: The mid section is the belly, so I'll never call that.

486
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Speaker 4: But I'm wonder if you think this is okay because

487
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 4: there was a hockey broadcast which I'll get the details

488
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Speaker 4: for maybe I haven't yet, in which they turned the

489
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Speaker 4: penis injury if you will, into a funny moment, and

490
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Speaker 4: I'm wondering if you think you would rather have them

491
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Speaker 4: be anatomically correct or go with jokes like.

492
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Speaker 6: This ase we know he can really fire it well, Nichols,

493
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 6: great work shielding the puck to feed Craven his quick shot.

494
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 6: Not much on it but just missed.

495
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 2: Would have beaten the goaltender.

496
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Speaker 6: And then back to Craven to Nichols out to daze

497
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 6: and daze let her rip, then hill and kicked out

498
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Speaker 6: the right leg. It was vulnerable inside the right knee

499
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Speaker 6: area and calf and that's where he got it. There's

500
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Speaker 6: not much protection there. He sticks out his leg like

501
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Speaker 6: a goaltender and uh, well from the second angle, it

502
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Speaker 6: doesn't look to me like it.

503
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Speaker 2: Hit the knee.

504
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Speaker 3: I said he got in a bad spot.

505
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Speaker 2: Not his knee, maybe his weenie.

506
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Speaker 3: Oh goodness me. Oh the headset adjustment the classic I.

507
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be able to win it like that Salurd Melan.

508
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: They're still laughing.

509
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 6: Hold on on that sequence.

510
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 4: So Dale, when the voice says cracking, they can't laughing.

511
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: A great moment judgment.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, First off, those guys sound very Canadian. But

513
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: but second yeah, the arena sounds very empty, by the way,

514
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: but anyway, yeah, it sounds like a junior hockey league

515
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: sort of. There's eight hundred people watching and what is

516
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 3: this local broadcast? But yeah, I mean, look good for them,

517
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: good for them to to try and destigmatize it a

518
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Speaker 3: little bit. I still get tweets. I think the person

519
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Speaker 3: who has assumed the mantle on this issue is Big

520
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Speaker 3: Cat of barstool he has he has taken on he'd

521
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: like quote tweets all the time. Uh. There was a game,

522
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: I guess between the Panthers and the forty nine ers

523
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: where someone got punched in the penis and the Bigcat

524
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: just tweeted right in the penis and someone tagged me.

525
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: And that's the only reason why I know that. So

526
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: I'm glad that other people have taken on this mantle.

527
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 3: I have laid down my sword, so to speak. And

528
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: actually it happened, so it still happened. It actually happened

529
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 3: to me in a game on Sunday. I did a

530
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: game on Sunday. It was a roma against Napoli, and

531
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: there was like big charge whatever, and the analyst, for

532
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: whatever reason, likes to take it and make and make

533
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: all the jokes and all the whatever, and so yeah,

534
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: fair enough. I let him take care of it because

535
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 3: I no longer want the scrutiny for this. I tried it,

536
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: I thought it ended my career. Thankfully it didn't. And

537
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: here we are.

538
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not in it.

539
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: He just he does this thing where he goes, oh, Chris,

540
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 3: not gonna do any color commentary on that one. I

541
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Speaker 3: think we all know the pain that he's in, so

542
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: you know it is it is doing the thing that

543
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: I was raised against. But I have sort of seen

544
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 3: the efficacy of it in that I like my job

545
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 3: and I don't want to get fired.

546
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: Just drop it like hitting the hog or something like that.

547
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I suppose.

548
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: You desire it.

549
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Speaker 4: I would legit consider retirement after that if I'm calling

550
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 4: games in.

551
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: This Ny Wentz Man, that was a terrible job by

552
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: that guy. It's not funny.

553
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: They laughed too hard.

554
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean, anyone knows about overlaughing at someone else's joke.

555
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: It's me.

556
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: To be fair, I could be accused of overlaughing as

557
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: well as I perhaps just did there.

558
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 4: Know that was pretty funny.

559
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: Do you even care about the Gaines anymore? I mean,

560
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: you are you?

561
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: I didn't want to go there with him, but.

562
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I mean I want to, but I don't.

563
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: But I don't like it. Really, it doesn't. It doesn't

564
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: affect me anymore. I think I think if they replaced

565
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: the coach, I would probably care a little bit more.

566
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm just not a cryst of ball guy. I appreciate

567
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: the efficacy of what he's been doing and sort of

568
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: his approach. There are people who are much smarter about

569
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: college football that mean that are basically like, it really

570
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: doesn't matter how good of a coach you are anymore,

571
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: just matters if he get the players, which honestly fair enough,

572
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: it's just not for me. I would much got players.

573
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

574
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: Right, Well, they've gotten the players, and then you know,

575
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: it's interesting. It really is just sort of fascinating how

576
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how far you expand a playoff field

577
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: used to be two. College basketball is as far as

578
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: sixty eight. The sixty ninth team is always going to

579
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: have some kind of argument and always be doing the thing.

580
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: So we used to have the argument over who would

581
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: win the national championship, and the twelfth and thirteenth team

582
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: didn't get to have any say in the matter. You

583
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: lost a game in conference, you're done. But now you

584
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: can lose two one as a heavy favorite at home

585
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: and still be absolutely outrage of this idea that you're

586
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: going to be left out. I personally would just rather

587
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: Miami stop losing games that they're double digit favorites in.

588
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: That would be my personal preference, rather than trying to

589
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: make an argument against you know why, this team or that, Like,

590
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: once you leave yourself to the vagaries of judgment, then

591
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: you have lost sort of that wayane here right right,

592
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 3: which is I think shows how like not passionate I

593
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: am about college football, because in order to be a

594
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 3: proper college football fan, you have to be insane about it.

595
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, it doesn't you know, it doesn't really affect

596
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: my saturdays very much, if I'm being honest.

597
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 5: When you don't have a dog in the fight and

598
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: you're seeing people argue about who's the eighth, ninth, and

599
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 5: tenth best teams in college football, it's kind of sad.

600
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the thing is okay. So if I were

601
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: to mount a very meager defense of Miami, I think

602
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: it would be if they got in I think even

603
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: as the twelve, I wouldn't want to play them. I

604
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to play them because I still think that

605
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: their best punch, based off what they've shown against Notre Dame,

606
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: against Florida, in this game against Pittsburgh, their best punch

607
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: is still sign sgnificantly better I would say than some

608
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: of the teams that they're arguing against. I think it's

609
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: better than Texas's, for instance. I think it is better

610
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: than some of the other teams that are around them,

611
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 3: maybe even Notre Dame. Obviously on the evidence that they

612
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: beat them. They threw their best bunches against each other

613
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: and Miami won, and I thought they were dominant in

614
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: that game as well. So I think if you're trying

615
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: to make an argument on their behalf, it would be

616
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: if they got in, it wouldn't be charity necessarily. I

617
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: would not be surprised, to quote a Stu Gott's phrase

618
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: during the NCAA tournament, I would not be surprised if

619
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: they got in as a twelve and be I guess

620
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: right now, five is what Alabama? Or yeah it's for

621
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: Texas Tech. Sorry, if they're playing on the road against

622
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: Texas Tech as the Big twelve champions, I think Miami

623
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: would beat them, and so like that's why I don't

624
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: think it's necessarily sad is. I actually do think that

625
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: from getting into the field, they could go and win

626
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: the whole thing.

627
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: The plus of Mario Christobal winning four games and all

628
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: four of them being.

629
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Speaker 1: That's the only reason you would wanted to play that exactly.

630
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: I would love to play them because I have a

631
00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: coaching advantage.

632
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: Ye just keep it closed so blow it in the end.

633
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that absolutely is the argument against them.

634
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: But if you're saying, on a talent basis, on a

635
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: talent basis, would you want to play them? I don't

636
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: think so. And I actually think Mario's problem in Miami

637
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: has not been stepping up in big games and winning

638
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: big games. It has been winning the games where they've

639
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: been double digit favorites. And you're not playing Louisville in

640
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: the playoff, You're playing you know, some really damn good teams.

641
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're wrong here, but you realize how

642
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: incredibly disrespectful that was the Texas Tech like they're probably

643
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: a very good football team, right.

644
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: No, I just I just think. I just think I

645
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: think Miami on the evidence, on the evidence of having

646
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: watched zero minutes of Texas Tech football, I would just guess,

647
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: based off of what I've seen from Miami that Miami

648
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: has better athletes, a better defense, better better on the lines,

649
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: and they would probably overpower them. I would guess over

650
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: four quarters. But again that's not having seen a minute

651
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 3: of Texas Tech football.

652
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: I love it.

653
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 5: Not only am I with Witty. I'll take it one

654
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: step further. I think Miami would have a better chance

655
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: beating Georgia than they would if they played Duke in

656
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

657
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: It's a great point. It's a great point. I think

658
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: like that that is their Achilles deal, their Achilles deal.

659
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Speaker 4: You're wearing an Alabama sweater tailor what is happening?

660
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: It's just a red Nike sweater. But yeah, I mean Miami. Honestly.

661
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: The thing that makes me believe in them a little

662
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: more than I otherwise would have is the spot that

663
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: they played the Saturday after Thanksgiving is the spot that

664
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Speaker 3: I've been watching them play for fifteen years. It's away,

665
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: it's thirty degrees, it's miserable. The players on for it,

666
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: and they just completely lay down away at Pittsburgh. They

667
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: did it when they were eleven in oh in that

668
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: one Mark Rick season. They were dreadful and then they

669
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: just went out there kicked their ass for four quarters.

670
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: So I think like that leads me to suggest, That

671
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: leads me to believe that when properly motivated and when

672
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: properly healthy, that they could get up and beat just

673
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: about anybody. I really do.

674
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Speaker 4: I feel like I let Taylor and Steve Gott's take

675
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: over here. I did not we did not have you

676
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Speaker 4: on so that you can take.

677
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Speaker 3: They pretend like I can car like a care about

678
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: the University of Miami.

679
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: I just asked if he cared.

680
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: That's all into Miami is minus two forty to lift

681
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: the cup. The white Caps are plus one ninety eight.

682
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Seems like a good value. I mean, I'm getting behind.

683
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: The white Caps here, right, Chris, Like what happens if

684
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: Vancouver wins? Talk about the.

685
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: Ultimate I know, I know, I mean they can. I

686
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: actually do think I'm not allowed to give any betting

687
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: advice on soccer, but I mean, like just ninety eight

688
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: plus plus one ninety eight over ninety minutes or one

689
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty minutes or even on penalties. Yeah, it's

690
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: pretty good odds because again, I think there is a

691
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: world in which Vancouver could outplay Miami, say because they

692
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: like the way that they play, their style of play

693
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: and how they have controlled games against very good opposition.

694
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: As you said, Izzy, they did it in May and

695
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: the CONCACAFF Champions Cup and a competition that, by the way,

696
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: Miami gave a shit about. Miami want to go win

697
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: that CONCACAFF Champions Cup. And so the fact that they

698
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: didn't in the fact they were so soundly unplayed. I

699
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: guess the one thing you would say is Miami seven

700
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: months on are a different team. They were still playing

701
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: Luis saw Is upfront at that time, not the young

702
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: legs of Mataios, so that they were playing some of

703
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: their weaker links. Because there was kind of this idea

704
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: that some of these players would come good. There was

705
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: a recognition that they didn't, and so they've changed the goalkeeper,

706
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: They've changed one of the center backs, they've changed the

707
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: center forward, and so personnel has evolved over the course

708
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: of the year. So I think Miami is a much

709
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: better team now. But again it's a possibility Vancouver can

710
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: go out there and make this miserable for inter Miami

711
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: and ruin the ruin the occasion, and obviously people think.

712
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: Well, if Vancouver wins, I'm wondering, did they just keep

713
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: playing the game until Messi finally wins?

714
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: What happens there? Man?

715
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: Did you get did you get the propaganda from the

716
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: Ronaldo fans before this? Because this is what people you know,

717
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: this is what people think about the world right exactly,

718
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: but you know, like this is what people believe about

719
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: the World Cup. You know, that right, that there's this

720
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: idea that he went to go play for PSG, who

721
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: are owned by the Kataris. It's the Guitar World Cup.

722
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: They wanted to give this to Messi and so they

723
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: just gave him a bunch of penalty kicks over the

724
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: course of a World Cup and they went and won

725
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: the World Cup and they gave they gave Messi the

726
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: h I mean, like, but that's that's how Ronaldo fans

727
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: have to cope because I don't know if you know this, guys,

728
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: in the history of the World Cup, it still you'll

729
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: like this because you're sort of like calling people chokers.

730
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: Christiano Ronaldo has never scored a goal in the knockout

731
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: rounds of the World Cup.

732
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

733
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: He has played in five of them and has never

734
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: scored a goal in the knockout round of the World Cup,

735
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: never mind come close to winning one. So like that's

736
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: like the ultimate strike against him in the goat argument

737
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: is that as as you say all the times to

738
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: do it in the World Cup, and Christiano Ronaldo never

739
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: has And so like every it's sort of interesting you

740
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: end up in sort of both sides of the algorithmic Internet.

741
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: Between these two fan bases, and so I know, I

742
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: know the talking points between these two and this is

743
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: so the Ronaldo fans do the whole messy thing whatever,

744
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: because you know, obviously it's so bad that Messi win

745
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: and won it, and Ronaldo has not scored a goal

746
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: in the knockout round. So it's just like it's this

747
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: incredible juxtaposition of the two people that are compared as goats,

748
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: and one has done in the World World Cup and

749
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: the other has not. But there are all these other things.

750
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: You know, Messi has one fewer Champions Leagues and has

751
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: had some very notable choking moments of his own, So

752
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: there there, there are lots of things here.

753
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 2: Listen, this is all I'm saying. The four two three

754
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: one for Vancouver makes them a very dangerous team, serious.

755
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 3: Very dangerous, very dangerous to got.

756
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: Some play through Muller.

757
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, what formation to winenter Miami play?

758
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: What was that?

759
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: What formation to winter? Miami play?

760
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: Bat three two one?

761
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: I believe that's where they go. You're asking me earlier

762
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 4: about Messi as a false nine or something like that,

763
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 4: but I didn't really know how to that.

764
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: So four four two they've been playing it since they

765
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 3: were kids. Yeah, three three two one is not enough

766
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: numbers on the pitch. What's the that would that would be?

767
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: That would be a formation you would employ when you

768
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: had a player red carded?

769
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, you play at the same time.

770
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: There's there's eleven on each side of the field.

771
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: One B one three three three one one.

772
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 3: Yes, that actually has been deployed before. Well done, good

773
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: job of the mat there. You really you really should.

774
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: You should have screwed it up a second time. I

775
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 3: should have called it like the three four five or

776
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: something like that too. You're you tripped into getting it correct.

777
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 2: I didn't need to. What's the game?

778
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: Probably two and a half? Most soccer games to two

779
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 3: and a half, although I usually I mean both both

780
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: teams to score has been a very profitable bet for

781
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: Miami for most of the season because it's one of

782
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: those where, oh, Miami are so dominant, they're not going

783
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: to give up a goal. But I mean, but both

784
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: teams to score. Ran overs have generally been the case

785
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: from Miami, But they've gotten a lot better defensively in

786
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: the playoffs, which is shocking. But uh, but yeah, I mean, honestly,

787
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: I could I could see this one being a back

788
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: and forth affair and an end. It's like three two

789
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: or something like that.

790
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: Defense wins championships.

791
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: You know that that's what that's what they say. That's

792
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 3: what they say. But honestly, over the course of these playoffs,

793
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: it has been the attack that has very much been

794
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 3: the championship elite level, which you normally do not see

795
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: in playoffs. You normally don't see five and four and

796
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: five that Miami have scored.

797
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: Stu Gat's information for a defense which championship is an

798
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 4: eleven just eleven people.

799
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Speaker 2: To us.

800
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: I wow, Stu Gotts.

801
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 4: And now we know why we had Chris witting him

802
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: on so Stu Gotts could flex his soccer.

803
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: Now this is this has been the old This has

804
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: been such a display, a talismanic display Stu Gotts in

805
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: terms of in terms of his knowledge of soccer. Well done.

806
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: I know this is off the top of your head.

807
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: Yes, love the white Caps.

808
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, go on the Caps.

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