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Speaker 1: of stuff to get into today, obviously the NBA Playoffs,
Speaker 1: there's some stuff on Diddy and fifty cent and Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: What the hell do those three names have in common.
Speaker 1: I'll definitely touch on that. Of course, Mark Kriegel has
Speaker 1: written an outstanding book on Mike Tyson. Things that you
Speaker 1: didn't know, things that you haven't heard before. We'll have
Speaker 1: him on to discuss those things with. The first order
Speaker 1: of business is the NBA Playoffs, and that's where we're
Speaker 1: getting started, where the finals are now set between the
Speaker 1: Indiana Paces and Oklahoma City Thunder. The Paces made the
Speaker 1: finals while putting away the New York Knickson Game six
Speaker 1: Saturday night, one twenty five to one oh eight. The
Speaker 1: Pacers were ultimately the better team, and now they head
Speaker 1: to the finals Thursday night to face the league MVP
Speaker 1: and Shay Gilgess. Alexander and the Oklahoma City Thunder can't
Speaker 1: say enough Listen. I thought the Knicks was gonna win
Speaker 1: this series in seven games, I really really did. But
Speaker 1: when they blew it in Game one, I didn't know
Speaker 1: how they could and how they could recover from that,
Speaker 1: and sure enough they didn't. That's one element appeal from it.
Speaker 1: Another element to peal from it is that the Pacers
Speaker 1: were deeper and they were exceptionally well coached, and even
Speaker 1: though we respect Tom Thibodaux on what have you, the
Speaker 1: bottom line is is that he's not Rick Carlile. And
Speaker 1: then when you couple that with the fact that you
Speaker 1: got to look at the future in terms of the
Speaker 1: New York Knicks giving up five picks for and protected
Speaker 1: first round picks for Michal Bridges, and you saw his
Speaker 1: level of production or lack thereof at times, it doesn't
Speaker 1: look too pretty for the New York Knicks. They were there,
Speaker 1: they were in the conference finals, they were two games
Speaker 1: away from an NBA Finals birth, but they didn't get
Speaker 1: it done. And to be honest with you, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say something that's not gonna be that popular. From a
Speaker 1: purely basketball standpoint, this is a better final series than
Speaker 1: the Knicks would have given Oklahoma City Thunder, because I
Speaker 1: think if the New York Knicks are going against Oklahoma
Speaker 1: City Thunder, they would have gotten blown out of the building.
Speaker 1: They would have gotten swept because they just weren't deep enough.
Speaker 1: And against Oklahoma City, you got to be deep enough.
Speaker 1: Rick Carlile has played eleven players at least fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: a game during the regular season, so it's a better
Speaker 1: match for the Oklahoma City Thunder, and it's a better
Speaker 1: basket ball matchup for all for us all to watch
Speaker 1: during the NBA Finals. That's my opinion. Okay, that's where
Speaker 1: I stand with it, but you probably prefer to hear
Speaker 1: from somebody else. And joining me now to break down
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference finals and look ahead to the NBA
Speaker 1: Finals is an NBA champion himself, Big Perk, as we
Speaker 1: affectionately call him, Kendrick Perkins, one of All with the
Speaker 1: Celtics in two thousand and eight, and he joins me now,
Speaker 1: my partner in crime on NBA count Down and beyond.
Speaker 1: What's up, big boy? How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: How's everything that's saying?
Speaker 2: Two things? Are those veins popping out of yours? Are
Speaker 2: those veins? I see? Hello?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 2: Hello? Going on?
Speaker 4: I see a different I see a different glue in
Speaker 4: you right now?
Speaker 2: Man, You know what I mean. I'm seeing something different
Speaker 2: right now. You know you got going overdy.
Speaker 1: You just teasing me, man, You just teasing me. You
Speaker 1: just teach me because you know how deferate I want
Speaker 1: to get I get home, because I was desperate to
Speaker 1: get home. I got I was being Oklahoma City in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there praying we didn't have to go
Speaker 1: back to Minneapolis for Game six. You know that, you
Speaker 1: know that. But Purk, let me ask you this question. Man,
Speaker 1: let's get right to it. You all, I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta give us an explanation. You swopping down. There was
Speaker 1: no way in hell of Indiana Pacers will winning the
Speaker 1: series and getting to the NBA Finals. Yet lo and
Speaker 1: behold they are here. What the hell happened to the
Speaker 1: New York Knicks and the Indian Indiana Paces and the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals?
Speaker 2: Man, well, let me say this. I was wrong.
Speaker 4: I was wrong about this series. And I gotta give
Speaker 4: credit to the Indiana Paces. I will say that.
Speaker 2: But the Knicks, how dare you? How dare you? You're
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference Finals, you just knocked out to
Speaker 2: defend the Chaps. How dare you let your foot off.
Speaker 4: The gas in Game one? That's what I keep thinking
Speaker 4: about when I go back to this series. I keep
Speaker 4: thinking about that meltdown in Game one and how they
Speaker 4: ultimately cost the New York Knicks the series, and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden things started downspiring from there They've
Speaker 4: been ever since, and they never bounce back. Here's the
Speaker 4: thing you say one unless Jannis calls and say he
Speaker 4: wants to go to New York.
Speaker 2: I think the Knicks ship running back.
Speaker 4: Obviously you get better with your bitch, but I'm talking
Speaker 4: about your starting five.
Speaker 2: And Josh Hard you run it back, right, but you
Speaker 2: hold guy's a count, and I'm looking at call Anthony Towns.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm certain hit me out. Soon as the
Speaker 4: game was over. I went to the end and there
Speaker 4: and everybody like, oh, first priority for the Knicks is
Speaker 4: trained called Anthony Towns.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, the hell is not. You're talking about
Speaker 2: a guy who.
Speaker 4: Gave you twenty three to twenty four points and almost
Speaker 4: twelve rebounds in this series. I believe it was right.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing before Worldwild West and Leon Rose call
Speaker 4: Anthony Towns. They go all the way back to his
Speaker 4: Kentucky days. Right, that's living over a decade ago. You
Speaker 4: shouldn't be able to hold him a count. The problem
Speaker 4: will call Anthony Towns is strength and conditioning. He has
Speaker 4: to lose fifteen to twenty pounds. He has to be
Speaker 4: able to get up the floor there. He has to
Speaker 4: be able to work on his lateral movement. Don't come
Speaker 4: telling me that he can't get better in his eighth
Speaker 4: or ninth season and say, I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 4: You know why because I watched Steph Curry get better
Speaker 4: later in his career when he won his fourth championship.
Speaker 4: You remember when people was picking on Steph Curry and
Speaker 4: say defensively, yep, it stopped against the Boston Celtics. You
Speaker 4: remember how he started guarding. They were trying to search
Speaker 4: him out. We saw him balloting on the low block
Speaker 4: with Al Horfer, that Jaylen Brown and he wasn't budget.
Speaker 2: That's what needs to happen with call Anthony Towns.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this, if I'm called Anthony Towns, I
Speaker 4: embrace all the criticism this summer.
Speaker 2: I use all the criticism.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, I have every single clip on my
Speaker 4: phone that is criticizing me, being a defense of liability,
Speaker 4: out of shape, whatever you want to call it. I'm
Speaker 4: using that as motivation and I come back. I come
Speaker 4: back and better shape. Next year, I'll come back leaner,
Speaker 4: and I come back more focus.
Speaker 1: Is that your way of saying that the New York
Speaker 1: Knicks for some reason, had an opportunity to get Yannis
Speaker 1: after the Coupo, they shouldn't move. Called Anthony Towns. Is
Speaker 1: that what your way of saying.
Speaker 4: That I said, let's he called I wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be reaching out if I'm the New York Kniggas.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that because because man, listen, we already
Speaker 2: know whether you or not greef with it or not.
Speaker 4: Called Anthony Towns is the emotional God, right, Call Anthony
Speaker 4: Towns is the emotion of God if he found out
Speaker 4: that Worldwide West and Leon Rose were reaching out to
Speaker 4: try to trade him, because you're gonna have to trade
Speaker 4: him if you want yachts, right, you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: package him up with something with some pieces and a
Speaker 4: third team involved.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: It is the sense of draft picks that if you
Speaker 4: want giddiness, you want them to contact you. You want
Speaker 4: guiddness to want to come to the Knicks before you
Speaker 4: even start entertaining that conversation. If not, guess what, let's
Speaker 4: say you run it back. Two things for sure, we
Speaker 4: know the Boston Celtics they're most likely not gonna be
Speaker 4: there next year. Now they're gonna make some moves, but
Speaker 4: without Jason Tatum, they're not gonna be tightle contendants. You know,
Speaker 4: the Milwaukee Bucks eliminating themselves. Dame Dollard's probably gonna miss
Speaker 4: the entire season. So you're still just looking at the Pacers, right,
Speaker 4: and maybe the Cavs, who are gonna bounce back. Other
Speaker 4: than that, the Knicks have nothing. I mean, who else
Speaker 4: are they worried about?
Speaker 2: Me? Easter comes, I know, detroying.
Speaker 1: No man a Detroit? How about how about Detroit? How
Speaker 1: about Detroit who didn't have Isaiah Stewart, who didn't have
Speaker 1: Ivy available to them, and who has the rest of
Speaker 1: the team? What about them? I'm not underestimated Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 2: No I'm not. I'm not either.
Speaker 4: But I'm say if the Bigs, which I believe they
Speaker 4: will do, go out and improve the depth and get
Speaker 4: better on the PERIMAA right from the bench.
Speaker 2: I think they'll be just fine. They know what they
Speaker 2: have to.
Speaker 4: Do this offseason to to upgrade Dave Russell.
Speaker 1: What about your concerns about Kling Anthony Towns and how
Speaker 1: gimpy he looked throughout these playoffs. His legs, it looks shaky, man.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can depend on him in the next three to
Speaker 1: five years. Because of that, I'm talking about his legs,
Speaker 1: how to tide twenty one feet, questionable needs. That stuff
Speaker 1: has been has been pervasive in his life for years. Man,
Speaker 1: it has to say.
Speaker 2: But that's why you get your big ass in shade.
Speaker 4: Let me let me give you an examp when I
Speaker 4: was when I first got traded to Oklahoma City. Right
Speaker 4: the first year I was there, I was coming off
Speaker 4: of touring ACL and I strained my ministis okay, and
Speaker 4: we went to the We end up going I believe
Speaker 4: it was to the Western Conference finals and we got
Speaker 4: knocked thought by the Dallas Marriage. I believe it was
Speaker 4: or in the second round. I can't really believe. I
Speaker 4: can't really hit it on the head right now, but
Speaker 4: it was either right, all right, cool, we getting knocked
Speaker 4: off that summer. I wasn't a laud now, mind you.
Speaker 4: I was in my eighth to ninth season as well,
Speaker 4: and I'm not comparing myself to call it and in towns,
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, no, a out of work that you
Speaker 4: need to.
Speaker 2: Put in to get to the level.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: The thundersuning trainer home with me, who was with me
Speaker 4: the entire summer.
Speaker 2: His name was chritis.
Speaker 4: They sent them down. They made me get on the diet.
Speaker 4: I had a book, this thick of things that I
Speaker 4: had to do and follow throughout the course of the day.
Speaker 2: I entered the season with two hundred and eighty eight pounds.
Speaker 4: I came back into camp at two fifty three with
Speaker 4: nine percent body fat.
Speaker 2: Because I knew I had to get in shape.
Speaker 4: One for my knees, but in order to be able
Speaker 4: to get up and down with Russell Westbrook came and
Speaker 4: James Hory that's how you gotta do.
Speaker 2: Hold the mccountum.
Speaker 1: Michel Bridges five first round picks for unprotected. How are
Speaker 1: you feeling about him right now?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: Mixed feelings they say about Micheal Bridges.
Speaker 4: It was wild because it was times where I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's the Michel Bridges, I know right there right and I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to just yet.
Speaker 4: He didn't have a great series or like he had
Speaker 4: an average series in the in the Eastern Conference finals,
Speaker 4: but remember how great he was in that Boston series.
Speaker 4: The dude was bombed right in, especially in the fourth
Speaker 4: quarters on the road. So this is what I said
Speaker 4: about Micheal Bridges. I think you have to address Jalen
Speaker 4: Bronson before you could start addressing McHale Bridges in the
Speaker 4: Oceana Noby and a lack of consistency offensively throughout the
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference Finals. Jaylen Brounton gotta get off the ball, man,
Speaker 4: like he gotta get off the ball, he say, he
Speaker 4: can't continue to start the game dribbling, dribbling the oxygen
Speaker 4: out of the ball.
Speaker 2: He's he's starting to become a Luca Doncis.
Speaker 4: And I say that respectfully because both of those guys
Speaker 4: are Hellibal players.
Speaker 2: And you know I'm a fare of the big body Brusson.
Speaker 4: But what I'm watching is I'm watching him walk the
Speaker 4: ball up the floor. I'm watching the Knicks start their
Speaker 4: offense with them in their fifteen on the clock. They're
Speaker 4: always borderline getting eight seconds called.
Speaker 2: And I'm watching mckial bridges at ogn Or.
Speaker 4: No we find their offense once Jayler Brunton goes to
Speaker 4: the bench, that can't happen.
Speaker 1: Man, Berker got more to ask you, but I got
Speaker 1: to get out of here to pay some bills. In
Speaker 1: the second. I'll be right back with you. More to
Speaker 1: Steven A. Smithshaw with Kendrick Berker's in a minute joining
Speaker 1: to me now to talk about his picks for the
Speaker 1: u upcoming UFC three sixteen event on Saturday, June seventh.
Speaker 1: Is prize pick partner Kyle Fogyard. What's up?
Speaker 4: Call?
Speaker 1: How you doing?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: How's everything?
Speaker 6: What's up?
Speaker 3: Steven A?
Speaker 6: How we doing?
Speaker 3: You're good?
Speaker 1: I've always had I want to make sure I pronounce it?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Does that pronounce your last name?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Four shot?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 7: Is that the right pronounciation? My my hockey coaches and stuff.
Speaker 7: Everyone butchers it since day one?
Speaker 3: So for.
Speaker 1: I got you, foreshow I got it man. I appreciate it. Man,
Speaker 1: thanks so much. I see you went. I see you
Speaker 1: went more on Sean O'Malley, less on Patchie Mix and
Speaker 1: less on Kayla Harrison. Why do you think Seana Maley's
Speaker 1: gonna have more than seventy two and a half significant
Speaker 1: strikes strikes and Patchi Mix is gonna have less than
Speaker 1: fifty seven and a half significant strikes?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 7: I think everyone thinks that Sugar has to knock out
Speaker 7: Morob early for him to win, But I just don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I see that happening. I think
Speaker 6: it's gonna be.
Speaker 7: A war at the end of the day, and so
Speaker 7: I see that fight lasting a long time.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be a second round knockout.
Speaker 7: I'd be happy if it was, because I want to
Speaker 7: Sugar to win, but I just don't see it playing
Speaker 7: out like that. And then those other two fights, the
Speaker 7: Patchie one, that's gonna be a brawl, so I think
Speaker 7: it's gonna end quick. And then same with the Kayla
Speaker 7: Harrison one. I think that's gonna be a quick one.
Speaker 7: So that's why I went less on those two and
Speaker 7: then more on Sugar. Pretty simple. We got our boy
Speaker 7: og at our full cen MMA cam too. He's really
Speaker 7: good with picks, so we usually hit these pretty often.
Speaker 1: Why do you also have a community play? You also
Speaker 1: have a community play, right, what's going on with that?
Speaker 1: Tell me about that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's on the app.
Speaker 7: So basically, you know, I can't even watch UFC without
Speaker 7: playing Prize Picks.
Speaker 6: You know, it just makes watching the fight so much
Speaker 6: more fun.
Speaker 7: So we like to do a pick and then we
Speaker 7: put it on the Prize Picks app. It's right on
Speaker 7: the homepage, so all our fans can just like click it,
Speaker 7: ride with us, and then we're all watching the fight
Speaker 7: and we're all root and hoping that it hits together.
Speaker 6: It's so fun. I love it.
Speaker 1: Now. The main event is a highly anticipated rematch for
Speaker 1: Prospects partner Chuga, Shane Chiga Sean O'Malley, who's looking to
Speaker 1: reclaim the bantaweight title. What are your thoughts on that rematch?
Speaker 7: You know, obviously we saw it's crazy because Mirod was
Speaker 7: an underdog in the first fight, right, like, yeah, one
Speaker 7: thought Sugar was just gonna be wing him out, and
Speaker 7: I think after that performance, and then obviously the last fight,
Speaker 7: his performance against Umar was just out of this world.
Speaker 7: I mean everyone was blown away. I actually rewatched it
Speaker 7: last night and it was just insane. So now it's
Speaker 7: crazy how it's completely flipped. Everyone's counting Sugar out once again,
Speaker 7: which was kind of in the same position he was
Speaker 7: when he was fighting Aljo. We were at that fight too,
Speaker 7: and nobody thought he had a chance, and he shocked
Speaker 7: the world.
Speaker 6: So I think Sugar's good in these situations.
Speaker 7: I think mentally, when he's being counted out and you
Speaker 7: know he's the underdog, I think that's when he shows
Speaker 7: up and performs his best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the probably The only issue I have
Speaker 1: with Sugar Sean is that it's like you have to
Speaker 1: bring the action to him because he's ready to counter
Speaker 1: when he has to chase you when you're moving, particularly
Speaker 1: when you're ready to wrestle, because you're not standing up
Speaker 1: there trying to fight him. It's a tough thing for him.
Speaker 1: It's almost as if he gets bored. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: worried about. I I don't think that'll happen, but I
Speaker 1: can't underestimate the possibility.
Speaker 7: What about you, Yeah, I mean if you rewatch that fight,
Speaker 7: rewatch it and watch the fifth round.
Speaker 6: Sugar threw two leg kicks. I think he hit him
Speaker 6: like right in the liver, and Marob was hurt.
Speaker 7: And that was after getting beat up for four rounds.
Speaker 7: So listen, Sugar is a sniper. I was actually there
Speaker 7: trading with him the other day. We had him on
Speaker 7: the podcast.
Speaker 6: He's an incredible shape, he's dialed, He's.
Speaker 7: Made a lot of changes in his life, and I
Speaker 7: think he's going to shock the world once again.
Speaker 6: But that's what makes this sport the best is you
Speaker 6: just never know. You just don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Price picks part in the extraordinary of Kyle four Yard
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Speaker 3: Smith Show.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, buddy, thanks so much.
Speaker 6: Man, take it you're gonna be riding, You're riding with
Speaker 6: us or what.
Speaker 1: I'm riding with you. I'm ride with you. I ain't
Speaker 1: going against anything you say. I mean every time I pick,
Speaker 1: every time I ride with you, I win. So that's
Speaker 1: how I'm pulling this off. That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 6: That's how we do it. That's how we do it,
Speaker 6: all right.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Thank you, sir. Let me transition. Because the
Speaker 1: New York Knicks had done and they got a lot
Speaker 1: of working offseason, we got plenty of time to talk
Speaker 1: about them. Your thoughts about the Indiana Pacers and their
Speaker 1: chances of winning a championship because they're going up against
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get game one. They better get game one.
Speaker 4: You remember when we was gonna countdown and I said
Speaker 4: the Denver Nuggets, I said the Minnesota timber Wolves. It
Speaker 4: was a month's win for them in Game one. Well,
Speaker 4: they better get game one. I know if they even
Speaker 4: think they have a chance in this series. You know why,
Speaker 4: because Game one's are a fill out game right, So
Speaker 4: the Thunder they haven't played a team like the Pacers,
Speaker 4: a team that likes to get up and down, a
Speaker 4: team that spreads the floor, a lot of they guys
Speaker 4: that could majority of their team could shoot the three
Speaker 4: point shot at a high cliff.
Speaker 2: They haven't.
Speaker 4: So now all of a sudden, Dagnell he has to
Speaker 4: go in in his bag a little bit. I'm interested
Speaker 4: to see what type of he's gonna throw out there.
Speaker 4: Who he's gonna put on past gual Seattle, Seaka. But
Speaker 4: Game one is the most important game of the series
Speaker 4: for the Pacers. If they don't get Game one, they're
Speaker 4: gonna lose this series in five because by Game two,
Speaker 4: the Oklahoma City Thunder is gonna figure you out. And
Speaker 4: once they figured you out, it's a problem defensively. So
Speaker 4: you're going into Game one in the field out game
Speaker 4: you really gotta have. You gotta have to really stretch
Speaker 4: that to going into the going into the second half
Speaker 4: of Game one, you need to be up by like
Speaker 4: fifteen to sixteen points on the score. Other than that,
Speaker 4: your asses brains.
Speaker 1: How elite is this Oklahoma City Thunder defense compared to
Speaker 1: defenses that we have seen throughout NBA history and what
Speaker 1: makes them so good defensively?
Speaker 4: Yep, so I there saying you saw the closer person
Speaker 4: to it. It's one of the best defensive teams that
Speaker 4: we've seen in the history of the game. And people
Speaker 4: keep asking me who will win this twenty twenty five
Speaker 4: or this twenty twelve team, And I keep saying, I believe.
Speaker 2: It will go seven games.
Speaker 4: But I would give the NOAWD to the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five team because.
Speaker 2: Of their depth.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever seen the team this deep,
Speaker 4: especially at the perimeter position, that have a bunch of
Speaker 4: dogs and could defend.
Speaker 2: Yes, we know about Luke Darts.
Speaker 4: I saw you earlier in the day make some great
Speaker 4: points about Alex Caruso in case of Ballace coming in
Speaker 4: off the bench, But we got we gotta remember hell
Speaker 4: SGA and j Doug, them brothers.
Speaker 2: Not no scrubs. Defensive like they defend that are high level.
Speaker 4: So when I'm watching them and I think about my
Speaker 4: eight team with the Boston Celtics, who was also on Pacific,
Speaker 4: one of the best defensive teams that E will you know,
Speaker 4: still put on the floor, I'm like, bro, these dudes
Speaker 4: are just different They're different, man.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at them right now now, and it's
Speaker 1: scary because I look at lou dort Man. This brother
Speaker 1: is a linebacker playing basketball. He's a linebacker playing basketball.
Speaker 1: I saw Julius Randall, and this brother didn't put a
Speaker 1: form out there. He just used his chest and Brandall
Speaker 1: couldn't move him. Randall six', Eight randall powerful and couldn't
Speaker 1: move this. Brother And i'm thinking About halliburton and all
Speaker 1: of this noise About. Halliburton the brother can. Play he's not.
Speaker 1: OVERRATED i don't know who these players were that labeled him.
Speaker 1: Overrated he's not. Overrated the brother can, play make no
Speaker 1: mistake about. It but this is a different. Beat this
Speaker 1: is a different. Animal it's a different challenge that's coming his.
Speaker 1: Way AND i ain't gonna lie to. YOU i don't
Speaker 1: know how Equipped halliburton is to handle. This to be
Speaker 1: quite honest with, you it's gonna be interesting to.
Speaker 4: See you saw those eighteen points per, game like these,
Speaker 4: playoffs that ain't gonna cut. It that's not gonna cut
Speaker 4: it Against Oklahoean city done the eighteen points a, Game
Speaker 4: gonna get to. Swim he's gonna have to elevate this
Speaker 4: game even more and say he's gonna have to be
Speaker 4: consistent if they have a shot twenty five to thirty
Speaker 4: points a, night AND i don't see. It you know
Speaker 4: what he averaging his two games against the thunder this
Speaker 4: sery this year in the regular city what he averaged eleven?
Speaker 2: Points bro ore Bro he.
Speaker 4: Averaged eleven points against Ok se Against. Okay see now,
Speaker 4: again you Know i'm waiting on. Him he didn't have
Speaker 4: his special moments if we just saw him take over four.
Speaker 4: Quarters but you're Dealing you're dealing with a different. Beast
Speaker 4: here's the one thing That i'm looking at. Close who
Speaker 4: is gonna go On Pascal Siaka because if you talk
Speaker 4: about Putting Luke dort's On Tyrese halingburn and the start
Speaker 4: Is Ted holmgren gonna be the one On Pascal. Siakam
Speaker 4: or do you if your, coach do you Start Jay
Speaker 4: duve On Passal? Siakam do you switch? Up you start lining?
Speaker 4: Up if you coach dagueall and you go small With
Speaker 4: chad at the five and you bring In Alice caruso
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be interested to.
Speaker 1: See i'm interested in seeing it as. Well i'm praying
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have an interesting. SERIES i, mean if
Speaker 1: we gotta go to cities Like indiana And, okay, see,
Speaker 1: damnit at least making a great. Series you know What i'm,
Speaker 1: saying go six seven, Games that's What i'm looking. AT
Speaker 1: i know you don't feel that, way, because damn, it
Speaker 1: you loved In Oklahoma. City you should be the. Mayor
Speaker 1: they should give you the key to the. City they
Speaker 1: gave you a standing. OVATION i was standing right next to,
Speaker 1: you big. Bro they gave you a standing, ovation and, okay,
Speaker 1: SEE i gotta ADMIT i was right BECAUSE i was
Speaker 1: getting ready to walk to the back with. YOU i,
Speaker 1: said let's. Go you, like stay with, me, Bro AND
Speaker 1: i didn't know what the hell was going. On and
Speaker 1: the next THING i, know they got you up on
Speaker 1: a big screen and the crowd is giving you a standing.
Speaker 1: Ovation how was?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: Man how that make you?
Speaker 2: Feel? Bro?
Speaker 4: One, well, One i'm thankful that you shared that moment with.
Speaker 2: Me that's number. One number two, man it's all of. Them,
Speaker 2: man it been that.
Speaker 4: Way and, SAY i had some great years, there, right
Speaker 4: it was four and a half. Years but the THINGS
Speaker 4: i will see a lot of people don't realize the
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Speaker 4: like with the, tornadoes With, Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving christmas, holidays like
Speaker 4: my wife and now we've done a lot in the
Speaker 4: community and we developed relationships. There, man WHERE i never
Speaker 4: bought a house In. BOSTON i never bought a house
Speaker 4: In cleveland Or New.
Speaker 2: Orleans BUT i did own a house In Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: City and it took, me, seriously it took me Seven
Speaker 4: it took me six years AFTER i Left.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: See it's, yeah six years AFTER i Left Okay, see
Speaker 4: finally sell.
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Speaker 4: going back.
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Speaker 1: said That Shake Gilgris alexander should be looked at, differently
Speaker 1: and then last week you came out and you, said
Speaker 1: this is the best play in the history Of Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: City Kevin durant's been, There Russell westbrook has been, there
Speaker 1: along with with various, others but especially those two names
Speaker 1: you really really mean That i'm talking. About you said
Speaker 1: this before a championship has been, captured you saying it right?
Speaker 1: Now you just say if they win a. Championship you've
Speaker 1: already Called Shay Gilgess alexander the greatest player in the
Speaker 1: history Of Oklahoma City.
Speaker 8: Thunder why, yeah, well well number, one third straight season
Speaker 8: of averaging thirty plus, okay shooting number fifty percent of the.
Speaker 4: Field which joined your goat And Michael jordan's right for
Speaker 4: as players with most thirty points shooting over fifty.
Speaker 8: Vego, yeah, yeah, yeah SO i said he said that.
Speaker 2: Team then he goes to win THE. Mvp then he
Speaker 2: goes to win THE. MVP i heard you on there.
Speaker 2: Too by the, WAY i ain't getting.
Speaker 3: Into the V.
Speaker 2: He wins THE, mvp all right, now saying he wins
Speaker 2: the scoring, title third straight year of First Team ALL,
Speaker 2: nba all right, now takes the team to THE Nba,
Speaker 2: Finals PNFERENCE, mvp and.
Speaker 4: The way that he's doing, it, man the way that
Speaker 4: he's doing, it no one could say that this man has, underachieved,
Speaker 4: Right And i'm just thinking about how he's embraced this.
Speaker 4: Coature no one thought when they made the trade For
Speaker 4: Paul george that this team will be sitting there something
Speaker 4: four or five years later and we'll be talking about
Speaker 4: them making it to THE nba. Finals For KAWHI, bg
Speaker 4: he A KAWHI pg don't even playing together no more
Speaker 4: so just for him to embody this.
Speaker 2: WHOLE. Ok see culture be like the face. MAN i.
Speaker 4: Listen much love and respect TO kd and much love
Speaker 4: and respect To. Russ With russ, done that was tremendous three,
Speaker 4: years averaging the triple, DOUBLE MVP, kd him being THE,
Speaker 4: mvp multiple scoring. TITLES i get all of. It but
Speaker 4: WHEN sga is doing right, now we're talking about history
Speaker 4: here of STEPHEN, a what's talking. About he's sitting at the.
Speaker 4: TABLE i Saw Alan overson post. Something it's, Him Michael
Speaker 4: jordan And Alan overson sitting at another.
Speaker 2: Seat that we didn't think he was gonna be sitting. At.
Speaker 4: Damnit he's sitting at that table now and he hadn't
Speaker 4: even completed the mission. Yet so imagine when he completed
Speaker 4: the mission AND i, think out of all and you
Speaker 4: tell me If i'm, wrong he's gonna be The he's everybody.
Speaker 4: Else From Anthony, Edwards Luca Jason Tage Jamem, Brown Donovan
Speaker 4: mitchell or gonna be playing ketch up to him because
Speaker 4: once he completed this, MISSION i believe they're gonna win the.
Speaker 4: Championship he's gonna enter that room of superstars With lebron
Speaker 4: When kadi Went steph With jokis With, goddis because he's gonna.
Speaker 1: Check all the and And the other thing, too is
Speaker 1: that he thoroughly Outplayed Anthony edwards in The Western Conference.
Speaker 1: Finals there's no. WAY i, mean there was two superstars
Speaker 1: that were going up against one. Another one departed elevating his,
Speaker 1: status another departed lowering his. Status even THOUGH i love
Speaker 1: me some Ant, man but you cannot show up in
Speaker 1: the game five and you're down twenty in the first,
Speaker 1: Quarter you're down thirty at the, Half you're getting blown
Speaker 1: out of the building in a close out. GAME i
Speaker 1: Know Oklahoma city is a better, team but you still
Speaker 1: expected more from Ant man than what you. Got let
Speaker 1: me throw this interesting question by. You five to. Twenty
Speaker 1: jeff T five to Twenty podcast said That shay basically
Speaker 1: saved THE nba because he reminded everybody of the mid range. Game,
Speaker 1: instead everybody's running out there dependent on. THREES i thought
Speaker 1: he made a valid point in. That regard your thoughts
Speaker 1: about that real, QUICK i agree with.
Speaker 2: THEM i agree with.
Speaker 4: Him he got, Us he made us focus and brought
Speaker 4: us back to. Realities right like just when people are
Speaker 4: the analytics start the mid range game was, dead it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't and then she ain't reminded us of this because
Speaker 4: people could talk about he's the free throw merchant and
Speaker 4: all that.
Speaker 2: STUFF i don't want to hear all, That.
Speaker 4: Like Richard jefferson put some st up where Mister jefferson
Speaker 4: down there was averaging more free throws THAN sga out
Speaker 4: of like two or three seasons of his.
Speaker 2: Career right now it's been over eight and he's he's
Speaker 2: he's getting to the mid.
Speaker 4: Range and like we talked about there saying he's legit sixty,
Speaker 4: six he's legit sixty.
Speaker 2: Six so that means he's COB M.
Speaker 4: J hight right in the separation the debrial difficulty that
Speaker 4: he's getting on because these ain't just wide open mid range.
Speaker 4: Shots he's a, contestant turned arounds over both, shoulders the,
Speaker 4: women the flash up and, under the school, blazing the
Speaker 4: finishing around the basket right the left, hand he's school
Speaker 4: blaying on on on the right side with the left,
Speaker 4: hand tough finishes like this man is special and he
Speaker 4: had reminded the world that don't fall in love with
Speaker 4: the trade.
Speaker 2: Ball but see, esa let me say this to you real.
Speaker 4: Quick last year when The celtics wonted problem they didn't
Speaker 4: shoot the ball that well from the three in THE Nba,
Speaker 4: finals we forgot. That holladay and those gods start cutting
Speaker 4: out of the corners Because dallas was trying to disrespect
Speaker 4: them for us knocking down. Threes The celtics was getting
Speaker 4: to the, Paint Jacob brown And Jason tatum was getting
Speaker 4: to that near raised. Junctions But asga just then took
Speaker 4: it to another. Level AND i think that's the separation
Speaker 4: between the between him And Anthony elvis right. Now right
Speaker 4: Like Anthony elvis is either three or all the way
Speaker 4: to the, Basket sga got everything.
Speaker 3: In, between everything in.
Speaker 1: Between not a three point, yet But god help us
Speaker 1: all if he perfects three point shooting and he gets
Speaker 1: significantly better at. That lord helped the. World lord helped
Speaker 1: the basketball. World two more questions Before i'll let you
Speaker 1: get on out of. Here one would be this going
Speaker 1: back TO. Kd you Know we saw how the crowd
Speaker 1: just thundered no pun intended When Shaye Gilgess alexander won
Speaker 1: the LEAGUE. Mvp we also saw we Saw Russell westbrook
Speaker 1: come back as The Denver nuggets get a standing. Ovation
Speaker 1: we saw you and the love that you see as
Speaker 1: a commentator now as a former player for The Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1: Thunder and the love and AFFECTION i know for a
Speaker 1: fact BECAUSE i was in that city with. You EVERYWHERE i.
Speaker 1: WENT i mean the television, stations the, streets big, perk big,
Speaker 1: PERK i, Mean, jesus it's, Ridiculous, okay the love that you.
Speaker 1: Received Kevin durant, is without, question one of the greatest
Speaker 1: players who has ever. Lived for obvious, reasons he didn't
Speaker 1: get that applause when he came back To okay, see
Speaker 1: because he decided to depart after they were up three to,
Speaker 1: one lost lost the series To Golden, state and then
Speaker 1: he took his talents to The Bay area With Steph
Speaker 1: curry and those boys less than a month after losing to.
Speaker 1: Them But i'm looking at the love And i'm, Like,
Speaker 1: damn this is one of the greatest players who have
Speaker 1: ever Lived, brooklyn Ok. See before, that, Obviously Golden state
Speaker 1: after The oka c and now he's In phoenix and
Speaker 1: one of the greatest. PLAYERS i, mean if we don't
Speaker 1: give him any, love where the hell is he gonna
Speaker 1: get it? From have you thought about that at? All
Speaker 1: and have you questioned whether or not one Day Kevin
Speaker 1: durant will ever regret LEAVING.
Speaker 4: Okac so be, HONEST i. DON'T i don't see how
Speaker 4: he LEFT okac is say like those fans haven't. Change
Speaker 4: they've been that. Way they've been that. WAY i remember
Speaker 4: when WHEN i was, playing we just used to go
Speaker 4: ON tv AND espn used to have like this this
Speaker 4: meter where it's, like, man we can't even hear. Ourselves
Speaker 4: they've been this. Way so, again Like katy decided to
Speaker 4: make the. Choice the only thing THAT i WISH kad
Speaker 4: would do is put his damn pride to, side which
Speaker 4: we know that's hard for him to, do and just
Speaker 4: make it right with their fan.
Speaker 2: Base And Sam.
Speaker 4: Presty here's the question THAT i want to know THAT
Speaker 4: i want to, know And i'm gonna Ask Sam, presty
Speaker 4: especially if they win this, championship like have you even
Speaker 4: spoken TO? Kd you AIN'T kd even talked since he
Speaker 4: departed From Oklahoma. City like that's a real. THING i
Speaker 4: want to know BECAUSE i know him And Russell westbrook
Speaker 4: got a relationship every TIME i look. Up Russell westbrook
Speaker 4: now got a car dealership out. There he just builds
Speaker 4: some type of park for the. Youth he's building up another,
Speaker 4: community apartments for for people on lo.
Speaker 2: Income like he's. Invested he goes back, there Right Russell.
Speaker 1: Westbrook Russell westbrook quiet has Kept Russell westbrook does a
Speaker 1: lot of special things in the community and BOTH okc
Speaker 1: And Los angeles that people don't know. About he just
Speaker 1: ain't about. That But Russell westbrook is a good, dude.
Speaker 1: Bro he could. Be he could come across as abrasive
Speaker 1: and truckling all he wants. To he does a lot of,
Speaker 1: great great things in the. Community he really.
Speaker 4: Does my thing is you're, RIGHT i, Say, Well my
Speaker 4: thing WITH kd is when he's, up when it's all
Speaker 4: said and, done what's the place he's going on the fall?
Speaker 9: Home LIKE i don't know everyone everyone has that, Place
Speaker 9: LIKE i, KNOW i Know braun he played with The
Speaker 9: lakers in the, heat but he's always gonna Say cleveland
Speaker 9: was his.
Speaker 4: HOME i just strongly believe that. Right, obviously Still peter's
Speaker 4: fund his.
Speaker 2: Whole damn career Will Golden. State And i'm looking at And.
Speaker 4: Giannis even If yannis does move on and he goes
Speaker 4: to another team this most, season he's always gonna say
Speaker 4: he's always gonna be remembered as A milwaukee What's?
Speaker 2: Kate he gonna be remembered that just K d or? Who?
Speaker 2: Yeah like what organization is attached to? Him?
Speaker 1: None none want to be attached to. THEM i.
Speaker 4: WANT i wonder If Sam preston is even going to
Speaker 4: retire his?
Speaker 1: Jersey, Yeah AND i tell, you, WELL i think he,
Speaker 1: should BUT i don't know if you can if the
Speaker 1: audience doesn't want, it because the crowd may not want
Speaker 1: it and what have. You and to, me it's one
Speaker 1: of them situations where if Oka see by Something happenstance
Speaker 1: doesn't win the championship this, year with all the assets
Speaker 1: That Sam presty has available to, Him phoenix would jump
Speaker 1: at the opportunity to get assets from Okay see in
Speaker 1: exchange FOR. Kd but why would you bring him back
Speaker 1: to a city that you know clearly he didn't want
Speaker 1: to stay. In and that's why that's what everybody has told.
Speaker 1: Me SO i don't know very last question BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: got to get on out of. Here who do you
Speaker 1: have win in this? Series and in how many GAMES i?
Speaker 2: GOT i, GOT i, GOT i GOT okc in.
Speaker 4: Six I'm i'm gonna give The pacers some respect that
Speaker 4: they could get too home, games, Right i'm gonna give
Speaker 4: him some respect to say that they can win two
Speaker 4: games at.
Speaker 2: Home let me say this to you, insight real. QUICK
Speaker 2: i haven't told, nobody not even.
Speaker 4: YOU i want the world to know that me and
Speaker 4: The Great Charles barkley has no beef no. More we
Speaker 4: actually talked and compensate. Yup so Because i'm sitting up
Speaker 4: there thinking, that and you know how my wife could be.
Speaker 4: Right she be on my ass if anybody and she's
Speaker 4: my ass and my. Stuff and she was, like you ever,
Speaker 4: thought what are you And barkley taking shots at each
Speaker 4: other for a?
Speaker 2: While y'all? Beefing AND i, said she, said it's just.
Speaker 2: Stupid SO i reached.
Speaker 4: OUT i reached out to our, legend our, colleague our good,
Speaker 4: Brother Michael. WIBBOARD i, did AND i, said, hey Will,
Speaker 4: bard big, bro can you put? Me can you Give
Speaker 4: barkley my? Number and telling to call me. MAN i
Speaker 4: just think it's. Stupid he put us in the group,
Speaker 4: message and he wrote this whole paragraph and, say both
Speaker 4: of y'all great friends of, mine two of my most
Speaker 4: favorite people on the Planet. Earth i'm making this introduction
Speaker 4: and maybe we could sit down and break bread and
Speaker 4: eat go to dinner In. Chicago SO i, responded, Appreciated, uh,
Speaker 4: Appreciated big Bro, charles what's, Up?
Speaker 2: Chuck what's?
Speaker 4: Up Legend? MAN i would love to sit down with
Speaker 4: you and break, bread he, Responded big. Perf, Man, hey,
Speaker 4: listen you're doing our standing. Job we shouldn't be throwing
Speaker 4: shots at each other in THE nba. Finals, Man let's
Speaker 4: link up and break. Break so we squashed that, beat
Speaker 4: that little that little beef that we. Had it wasn't
Speaker 4: nothing but some poor chops when we squashed. It that's that's.
Speaker 4: Fun that's.
Speaker 2: Fun excuse. Me it wasn't of but some hamburger. Me
Speaker 2: but we squashed.
Speaker 1: It now you if you, remember first of, all you
Speaker 1: did the wisest, thing because Nobody that's why we Call
Speaker 1: Will bond The, godfather because the ain't nobody better than
Speaker 1: bringing people together Than Will. Bond IF i have a
Speaker 1: run for office. Here he'll be my secretary Of. State that,
Speaker 1: brother THAT'S i, mean that's just who he. Is, SECONDLY
Speaker 1: i told, You i've been telling you for the last
Speaker 1: couple of. Years barkley's a good. Dude, Man barkley gonna
Speaker 1: say what he. Feels but a lot of most of the,
Speaker 1: times it's all in. Fun and if he disagrees with
Speaker 1: SOMETHING i tell, you he calls me a fool at
Speaker 1: least once a. Month at least once a. Month what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Saying but but we got nothing but
Speaker 1: love for. Him and by the, way we're looking forward
Speaker 1: to THE tnt crew coming TO. Espn. Man but, LISTEN
Speaker 1: i got to run on out of, here, MAN i gotta.
Speaker 1: RUN i appreciate The Big. Perk thanks so. Much, Man
Speaker 1: i've talked to you. Sooner, Right i'll.
Speaker 2: See you, soon and, okay see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah i'll see you. Soon But i'm not rushing.
Speaker 1: It i'm not rushing. IT i, MEAN i, Mean i'm
Speaker 1: a very friendly a. Confine i'll let you latery. Man
Speaker 1: thanks a. Lot all, right, now speaking speaking of that
Speaker 1: story That Big perk just alluded, TO i got to
Speaker 1: get to another story that made headlines throughout the. Season
Speaker 1: that came to an epic conclusion On saturday night In,
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Speaker 1: nba and tn T Ernie, Johnson Charles, Barkley Kenny, smith
Speaker 1: And shaquille, O'Neil Shack, diesel along with The Live event,
Speaker 1: team broadcast their final Game saturday ON. Tnt it was
Speaker 1: the end of a thirty five year run of basketball
Speaker 1: ON dnt ON. Tnt, However inside THE nba will carry
Speaker 1: on next season WITH ESPN. Espn Chimmy Jimmy pataro came
Speaker 1: up with the idea to obtain the rights To inside
Speaker 1: THE nba and put it on the as is so
Speaker 1: next season and going, Forward inside THE nba will continue
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Speaker 1: NOSTALGIA i get the affection that you have FOR. Tnt,
Speaker 1: Listen they're an. Institution we Love Ernie. Johnson he's the,
Speaker 1: institution and the fellas are the. Fellas BUT i was
Speaker 1: so Happy saturday night that they sounded off the way
Speaker 1: that they did pay homage to all the people that
Speaker 1: they worked, with all the lives that they. Touched it's
Speaker 1: been the best basketball show on television there is no
Speaker 1: debate about. That these guys are. Phenomenal all of them
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Speaker 1: they're coming over TO. Espn but it is important to
Speaker 1: note that they're coming over to THE espn just the,
Speaker 1: channel the same, crew the same production, team the same
Speaker 1: studio they do it. From the show IS. Theirs it's
Speaker 1: just going to air ON espn instead OF. Tnt and
Speaker 1: so while everybody was quick to write the epitaph of
Speaker 1: the show ON tnt is the big deal for them
Speaker 1: because they, had In Ernie johnson's, case a damn near
Speaker 1: forty year relationship with. Them understand, that but please know
Speaker 1: that if you're the fan, base what you've been seeing
Speaker 1: from them is what you're going to. GET espn ain't changing.
Speaker 1: Them they can't change. Them same production, team same studio In,
Speaker 1: atlanta same, personnel same. Producers it's their. Show that is
Speaker 1: what we are bringing TO. Espn it's just going to
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Speaker 1: their last, show they. Cussed they, said we ain't fucking
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Speaker 1: there when they don't need, us they don't need. Us
Speaker 1: it's just that. Simple we all got other jobs to.
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Speaker 5: when we. Met we used to talk about. Basketball you
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Speaker 5: sort of. Recognition and to, me that was the day
Speaker 5: he became like fully human to, me not an, abstraction a,
Speaker 5: real real. Guy AND i didn't the publisher broch this,
Speaker 5: idea would you Do? Tyson BECAUSE i owed the publisher
Speaker 5: money on something, else and the publisher broached this, idea
Speaker 5: AND i was, LIKE i don't tell, NO i ain't
Speaker 5: Doing tyson because my feeling has always been whether they
Speaker 5: cooperate with me or, NOT i don't, care BUT i
Speaker 5: have to love. Them AND i didn't Love Mike. TYSON
Speaker 5: i kind of do, now BUT i didn't. Then AND i, said,
Speaker 5: NO i ain't doing My. TYSON i torn my, hamstring.
Speaker 1: So it made so what made you decide to do?
Speaker 1: It what made you decide to do?
Speaker 6: IT i thought about.
Speaker 5: HIM i WASN'T i torn my. Hamstring i'm not in
Speaker 5: my right. Mind i'm thinking about. It the god friend
Speaker 5: of mine, says you can't give money back to the
Speaker 5: publisher at your duty as a. WRITER i started thinking
Speaker 5: about WHO i was, then WHO i am, Now AND
Speaker 5: i thought about that day In vegas and what the
Speaker 5: guy had, survived and HOW i wasn't necessarily, wrong BUT
Speaker 5: i was pretty pigheaded in vain about a lot of
Speaker 5: the STUFF i wrote in the, nineties not proud of
Speaker 5: all of.
Speaker 3: It AND i started thinking about what he had.
Speaker 5: Survived ooo's, Drugs, brownsville that that whole generation of like
Speaker 5: stick up kids that were but just blown off the
Speaker 5: face of the earth by. Itself, fain he was. Faint
Speaker 5: this in a kind of way that that will kill.
Speaker 5: You that you know that Killed, elvis that Probably. Tupac,
Speaker 5: yeah But.
Speaker 1: Mark let me go, here let me go. Here we
Speaker 1: thought we've heard everything About Mike, tyson like when you
Speaker 1: talk about, drugs, fame you, know, alcohol, women whatever it.
Speaker 1: Is you, know we heard it all before in our.
Speaker 1: Eyes what is it About Mike tyson that we're gonna
Speaker 1: learn in this book that we don't already. Know considering
Speaker 1: the fact that he was an open, book he was
Speaker 1: On Front. Street in terms of the, fame we saw
Speaker 1: him doing his his his you, know like you, said In,
Speaker 1: Vegas broadway and other. Places Mike lee was producing these
Speaker 1: one man. Shows we seem to have known everything about.
Speaker 1: Him what is it that we're gonna? Learn give us
Speaker 1: a nugget of what we're gonna learn in this book
Speaker 1: that we haven't already heard About Mike.
Speaker 3: TYSON i think to be human, human.
Speaker 5: Like you, know there's there's an incredible loss there THAT
Speaker 5: i don't.
Speaker 3: Think he can never.
Speaker 5: Feel think probably the closest thing he came to filling
Speaker 5: it right. Now he got his life right With, kiki his,
Speaker 5: wife but you, know the loss of his mother was
Speaker 5: Some it was a hole he couldn't fill.
Speaker 3: The relationship with his.
Speaker 5: FATHER i think that the, idea the way that this
Speaker 5: fame was, constructed the way he was built as a, fighter.
Speaker 3: It's still relevant.
Speaker 5: Today he drew one, hundred one hundred and eight million
Speaker 5: people saw him live stream With Jake. Paul Jake paul
Speaker 5: is pretty good, promoter but he could have only done
Speaker 5: that number With Tyson the question is why why we
Speaker 5: addicted to, Him why did he come? Back why Was you,
Speaker 5: know the third act of a fighter's life is almost
Speaker 5: inevitably the tragic.
Speaker 3: One he's disproved.
Speaker 5: Everything SO i think you're going to find that that
Speaker 5: he's a human being in this and a lot of
Speaker 5: it has to do with accavating his past as an
Speaker 5: amateur as a.
Speaker 3: Kid you, know there.
Speaker 5: Are certain things that run through. This one of the
Speaker 5: first PEOPLE i spoke to was his, brother his half,
Speaker 5: brother was running back At purdue quit went off to
Speaker 5: go find. Himself really bright, guy and you could see
Speaker 5: certain things like that run through The tyson. Family, first
Speaker 5: the guy was a great. Athlete second of, all he
Speaker 5: was really really, bright and he was, searching AND i
Speaker 5: think that was that's not Unlike, tyson the other element to.
Speaker 5: IT i think that there'll never be another fighter that
Speaker 5: comes up like. This he had Literary cashier before he
Speaker 5: had street. Credit the all the, writers some of them,
Speaker 5: great some of them were like my, rabbis my, Teachers
Speaker 5: guys Like Pete hamill were so in love with Custom
Speaker 5: model that this fable custing the kid cust the model
Speaker 5: was the original trainer took him out of a juvenile
Speaker 5: at pension and saved. Him you, KNOW i think that
Speaker 5: there's something to that that deserves more, nuanced that deserves
Speaker 5: to be, well deserves to be looked at, again go, on.
Speaker 1: What do you believe or when do you believe That?
Speaker 1: Tyson in your? Eyes what was the point when we
Speaker 1: talk about him being humanized per? Se he talked about
Speaker 1: needing to be, animalistic needing to be the kind of
Speaker 1: individual that he needed to be in order to be
Speaker 1: a boxing champion in the heavyweight. Division when do you,
Speaker 1: think decide you know where his humananity is being? Shown
Speaker 1: where do you think it hit and does the book reveal?
Speaker 1: That was it the Whole Robin gibbons. Affair was it
Speaker 1: having to deal With Don? King was it the fact
Speaker 1: that he looked at his own, mortality particularly in the
Speaker 1: aftermath of losing to A Vander holyfield and Biting Evander holyfield's?
Speaker 1: Ear what was the defining moment for the transformation per
Speaker 1: se that you believe is in is In Mike tyson's
Speaker 1: head where he reached the point where he, Said, YO
Speaker 1: i CAN'T i can't be this person. ANYMORE i need
Speaker 1: to be. BETTER i.
Speaker 5: Think, look this book is the first of two. Volumes
Speaker 5: this ends with with The sphinx. Fight BUT i think
Speaker 5: it CAME i think the, reformation you, know the final
Speaker 5: blows came with losing a, daughter Marrying kiki and getting
Speaker 5: So but you talk about you, know he talks about
Speaker 5: wanting and needing to be an animal his, words not.
Speaker 5: Mine but the irony is That Custom motel was and
Speaker 5: this is this is WHY i think the history needs
Speaker 5: to be re.
Speaker 3: Examined.
Speaker 5: Huts the motto was famous for almost a theology of the.
Speaker 3: Bully how do you beat a?
Speaker 2: Bully? When?
Speaker 3: When?
Speaker 5: When When ali was Fighting, foreman he consulted With Custom
Speaker 5: motto and it was the mottol, said you run across
Speaker 5: the ring and you smack him in the, mouth.
Speaker 3: Hit him in the right. Hand.
Speaker 5: Okay the irony is that, cuts whether by design or
Speaker 5: it just, happened cust rays might to be a. Bully
Speaker 5: there's never been a guy that was that scare uh.
Speaker 5: SCARY i mean he was scared, too but that the
Speaker 5: way that he used a fear to inflict on other.
Speaker 5: Fighters there's as a passage in the book is a,
Speaker 5: matchmaker pretty good matchmaker named Ron, katz and he remembers
Speaker 5: early in his, career he'd have to push guys out
Speaker 5: of the dressing room in order to Fight. Tyson so
Speaker 5: somewhere along the, LINE i Mean cus the motto was
Speaker 5: famous for Making Troy patterson the youngest heavyweight.
Speaker 3: Champion Until.
Speaker 5: Mike Until Mike, tyson no one wanted anything to do
Speaker 5: With sonny. Listing but Somehow mike became The stundy listed
Speaker 5: and somehow the WAY i think people wanted A sonny
Speaker 5: listen at that, time the rules.
Speaker 3: Changed the other thing With.
Speaker 5: Cus let me just IF i could one more thing
Speaker 5: About cuss and If Mike mike pushed back on this with.
Speaker 5: Me WHEN i, said, hey maybe it's not like the
Speaker 5: smartest thing in the world to take a kid who's
Speaker 5: been in and out of spot right and put him
Speaker 5: under hypnosis and tell them you're going to be a
Speaker 5: scourge From, GOD i, go maybe that's not like the
Speaker 5: way the way to do. It AND i said to,
Speaker 5: me What cuss was asking you to do is make
Speaker 5: him live. Forever it was A faustian, bargain make make
Speaker 5: the coach. Immortal and he's and you, KNOW i think
Speaker 5: he Credits cuss was saving, him and certainly he, goes, well,
Speaker 5: well didn't. Die DIDN'T i make him? Immortal and yes he.
Speaker 5: Did my question is at what? Price at what?
Speaker 1: Price and that's a very legitimate question BECAUSE i got
Speaker 1: to ask you. This first of, all Did Mike tyson
Speaker 1: authorize this? Book so he? Did you had the like.
Speaker 5: THAT i, mean we we spoke a couple of times
Speaker 5: to get some ground. Rules he was not to.
Speaker 3: Me he was very. Generous you, know it's never been.
Speaker 5: Antagonistic and you know when people typically what would happen
Speaker 5: is people calling, me see if it's, okay so go Called.
Speaker 5: Keiky she'll tell you if it's cool or. Not and
Speaker 5: most of the time it was, yes we have the
Speaker 5: same we have the same agent as it as it.
Speaker 5: Happens but, uh, ANYWAY i to answer your, question, no
Speaker 5: but but but he was give me, everything every EVERYTHING i.
Speaker 5: Needed But that's What i'm.
Speaker 1: Wondering so if he's giving you everything that he needed
Speaker 1: that you needed to write the book on, him why
Speaker 1: wouldn't he authorize?
Speaker 5: It BUT i mean WHAT i, MEAN i didn't want
Speaker 5: to be in business with. HIM i MEAN i Don't
Speaker 5: i've never asked anyone in other, words like, like for,
Speaker 5: INSTANCE i want to do a book About Joe, nama
Speaker 5: AND i, understand like Like joe thought of it in
Speaker 5: his world as a as a licensing. Deal he wanted,
Speaker 5: money he WANTS i don't want to be in. Business
Speaker 5: maravich passed away Man, sen he cooperated. FULLY i had
Speaker 5: no expectation That Mike tyson is gonna understood retell his,
Speaker 5: life you, know For Mark, kriegle for for. FREE i
Speaker 5: just was, like, hey let's let, me let me do
Speaker 5: WHAT i got to. Do and he was, Okay and
Speaker 5: that was more THAN i could have ever. Asked totally,
Speaker 5: Understand totally. Understand Did Mike tyson.
Speaker 1: Ever speak about The Michael speaks, fight because if you,
Speaker 1: REMEMBER i know you remember, THIS i remember this THAT
Speaker 1: i believe it Was Butcher lewis the late Promoter god,
Speaker 1: rested SO i think it was. Him spinx was in
Speaker 1: the locker room crying because he had to come out
Speaker 1: and Fight Mike. Tyson But mike didn't know, that and
Speaker 1: he was punching walls because he thought That spinx, was you,
Speaker 1: know using it as a delay, tactic when in fact
Speaker 1: it Was spake was scared to death That Mike tyson
Speaker 1: never talk about that at.
Speaker 3: All, No, no it ends it ends on. That that's that's
Speaker 3: a pretty well known. Incident but.
Speaker 5: He, does he does put his, hand he does put
Speaker 5: his hand through the wall. Waiting but there was a
Speaker 5: controversy because Butch lewis started some. Stuff thought he was
Speaker 5: Getting mike's, head, okay and Butch lewis comes back there and, says.
Speaker 5: Retape he wants him to repape BECAUSE i ain't retaping.
Speaker 3: Anything I'm.
Speaker 5: God and it gets into a whole thing with The
Speaker 5: New Jersey Athletic. Commission, yeah there were there were reports
Speaker 5: That sphinx was scared by the Way spinx was, like No,
Speaker 5: Trump spinx was a, great courageous.
Speaker 1: Fighter it was a, Yeah, mark you're talking to. Me
Speaker 1: you're talking to. Me here's a light heavyweight that moved.
Speaker 1: Up but he was a natural. Heavyweight come, On, mike.
Speaker 5: No no hold, up but here's a Thick Eddie fudge
Speaker 5: had a. Plan mike fades after six. Rounds stick and,
Speaker 5: Move stick and move have to be. Disciplined and Butch,
Speaker 5: lewis the Genius city, was goes right across and Tells michael, listen,
Speaker 5: man forget that. Man you gotta get your respect. Immediately
Speaker 5: and that's What sphinx. Does and that WAS i, mean,
Speaker 5: look it was only a matter of time, anyway But
Speaker 5: sphinx runs, across tried to throw a right, hand and
Speaker 5: he just gets smoked because he went to engage. Immediately he.
Speaker 5: Listened he listened instead of listening To Eddie. Fudch you,
Speaker 5: know he might have had a shot for a little.
Speaker 1: Bit Man Mark, KRIEGEL i gotta get my glasses BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i don't see what the hell you saying in. THAT
Speaker 1: i did See fink walk over to the ring and
Speaker 1: try to Engage. Mike he looked scared from opening. TAP i,
Speaker 1: mean he wasn't on his, bike but tried to engage In,
Speaker 1: Mike Mike, tyson come on. THERE i didn't see that
Speaker 1: saying he wasn't.
Speaker 3: Scared i'm not saying he wasn't. Scared but he does
Speaker 3: go to engage, him and he, tried and he. Tried
Speaker 3: even when he tries to.
Speaker 5: Get, up he comes right back after him and he's
Speaker 5: throwing the right hand when he receives the coup de grap.
Speaker 1: Got you last? Question was? You BECAUSE i got to
Speaker 1: get ready to go AND i can't wait to see.
Speaker 1: THIS i can't wait to read this. Book i'm going
Speaker 1: to ask you this question in the, end who Is
Speaker 1: Mike tyson? Today and is he, happy.
Speaker 3: Happier than he's ever, been.
Speaker 5: Happier than he's ever, been and for the first time
Speaker 5: in his, life he's. Love that's not, that that's not
Speaker 5: anything THAT i could have. IMAGINE i think like the great.
Speaker 5: Victory and this is where people LIKE i had been
Speaker 5: his consistent you, know detractors or, haters and people who adored,
Speaker 5: him and Even mike himself could agree on he was
Speaker 5: never supposed to be long for this.
Speaker 3: World his doom was like that was the safest.
Speaker 5: Bet you, know if you're gonna Bet Mike tyson's life,
Speaker 5: expectancy you're gonna bet the Under and here he, Is he's,
Speaker 5: beloved AND i think that's that's really the beauty of the.
Speaker 3: Story and it's a destination THAT i means no ONE
Speaker 3: i know could have. Imagined.
Speaker 1: Wow Mark, Kriegel The Baddest, Man The making Of Mike
Speaker 1: tyson is out, Tomorrow june, third wherever you buy your.
Speaker 1: Books Mark kriegel's good to see, you. Man it's been
Speaker 1: a long.
Speaker 3: Time.
Speaker 1: Man anybody you take You these are right all? Right
Speaker 1: went Only Mark kreegle right here With stephen am coming.
Speaker 1: Up Fifty fitty says there's no way in Hell Donald
Speaker 1: trump should issue apart and it's Showan Diddy combs if
Speaker 1: convicted in his federal sex trafficking and racketeering. Trial all
Speaker 1: that and. More coming up next Is stephen Asmifshow Koway welcome. Back,
Speaker 1: now let's get to the latest on Showing Diddy combe's
Speaker 1: federal sex trafficking and racketeering. TRIAL a former assistant testifying
Speaker 1: under the Pseudonym, miya was back on the stand facing
Speaker 1: cross examination for combs defense. Team, Meanwhile curtis fifty Cent
Speaker 1: jackson spoke out this weekend about the trial and any
Speaker 1: potential part In combs could receive From President. Trump fiddy
Speaker 1: went to social media following these comments From President trump
Speaker 1: Last friday when asked About diddy in the, trial take a,
Speaker 1: listen please.
Speaker 10: Backing and listen to the. Apprentice you mentioned once in
Speaker 10: twenty twelve That ditty was a good friend of yours back.
Speaker 10: Then he has since found himself in some very serious legal.
Speaker 10: Trouble that's, True would you ever consider partning?
Speaker 11: Him, well nobody's. Asked you had to be the one to, Ask,
Speaker 11: gator but nobody's, Asked.
Speaker 2: BUT i know people are thinking about.
Speaker 11: IT i know they're thinking about. IT i think people
Speaker 11: have been very close to. Asking first of, ALL i
Speaker 11: look at what's, happening AND i haven't been watching it too,
Speaker 11: closely although it's certainly getting a lot of. COVERAGE i
Speaker 11: haven't seen.
Speaker 2: HIM i haven't spoken to him in.
Speaker 11: Years he used to really like me a, lot BUT
Speaker 11: i think WHEN i ran for, politics he'd sort of
Speaker 11: that relationship busted up from WHAT i.
Speaker 2: READ i don't.
Speaker 11: Know he didn't tell me, that But i'd read some
Speaker 11: little bit nasty statements in the. Paper all of a,
Speaker 11: sudden you, know it's. Different you've become a much different
Speaker 11: person when you run for politics and you do what's.
Speaker 11: RIGHT i could do other, things And i'm sure he'd like,
Speaker 11: me And i'm sure other people would like, me but
Speaker 11: it wouldn't be as good for our.
Speaker 2: Country as we.
Speaker 11: Said our country is doing really well because of what we're,
Speaker 11: doing SO i Can't it's not a popularity, contest SO
Speaker 11: i don't.
Speaker 2: KNOW i would certainly look at the.
Speaker 11: Facts IF i think somebody was, mistreated whether they like
Speaker 11: me or don't like, me it wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Have any impact on.
Speaker 1: Me, Now here's What fitdy posted On instagram this weekend
Speaker 1: after those. Comments. Quote donald doesn't take well to disrespect
Speaker 1: and doesn't forget who chooses to go against him while
Speaker 1: working tirelessly to Make america great. Again there is no
Speaker 1: room for. Distraction he would consider pardoning anyone who was being.
Speaker 1: Mistreated Not. Diddy colmbs said some really bad things About.
Speaker 1: Trump it's not. Okay i'm gonna reach out so he
Speaker 1: knows HOW i feel about this. Guy end. Quote first of,
Speaker 1: all let me say this BECAUSE i love me some fifty.
Speaker 1: CENT i love what he's. DOING i love what he's
Speaker 1: doing On Stars power you know the Sequels PowerBook, ghosts
Speaker 1: which is my Favorite PowerBook, force Which Joseph sikora Plays Tommy.
Speaker 1: EGAN i love. THAT i love Raising. Canaan you saw
Speaker 1: WHAT i. Had you know you SAW i had the
Speaker 1: Star Patina miller's on the. Show she's. PHENOMENAL i love that.
Speaker 1: SHOW i love everything that fifty cent is, doing even
Speaker 1: though he's Still i'm sure he's gonna still make some
Speaker 1: music or, whatever BUT i just think he's. PHENOMENAL i
Speaker 1: think he's. Phenomenal his executive. PRODUCE i think he's an incredible,
Speaker 1: talent AND i think he is the kind of person
Speaker 1: you do not want against, you because this brother will
Speaker 1: troll you. FOREVER i, mean he will hit you where it.
Speaker 1: Hurts ain't no doubt about, that and he clearly has
Speaker 1: no love For. Diddy my whole point Is trump's willingness
Speaker 1: to Pardon. Ditty, potentially whatever Fifty cent feels it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be based on Whether trump What diddy has said About.
Speaker 1: Trump it should be based on Whether trump that thinks
Speaker 1: the charges against him are, excessive the crime that he's
Speaker 1: being accused, Of if he were to be committed of
Speaker 1: those federal, crimes how valid they, are and whether or
Speaker 1: not that time served comes into. Consideration that clearly is
Speaker 1: not going to be the. CASE i, mean if it's
Speaker 1: one of those situations Where President trump ended up PARDONING P.
Speaker 1: DIDDY P ditty's on trial, now he hasn't been convicted,
Speaker 1: yet he's been in jail for a few, months but
Speaker 1: with some of the things that he's been accused, of
Speaker 1: sex trafficking and, racketeering as the government continues to make its,
Speaker 1: case we got to hear what the defense has to
Speaker 1: say in response to those, allegations those, charges those assertions
Speaker 1: that the prosecution has made against. Him, ultimately if you
Speaker 1: want to look at him right, now clearly he's an
Speaker 1: individual that nobody wants to have anything to do. With
Speaker 1: when you consider the video and how it revealed how
Speaker 1: he was, abusing physically abusing his ex Girlfriend Cassie, Venturer
Speaker 1: when you hear the assistant give her, testimony when you
Speaker 1: hear the things that folks have alluded, to when you
Speaker 1: hear about the details about what he Coaxed Cassie venturer into,
Speaker 1: doing these are very, heinous disgusting, things to say the.
Speaker 1: Least i'm not going to even go into detail the
Speaker 1: hainous and, disgusting you. Know and so when you look
Speaker 1: at it from that, standpoint you, know why are you
Speaker 1: thinking about pardoning him before he's even been. Convicted let
Speaker 1: him get convicted and if he's getting if he gets,
Speaker 1: convicted let him spend some time in, jail and then
Speaker 1: after that you want to consider pardoning. Him your decision
Speaker 1: should be based on, that not on whether or not
Speaker 1: he has said nasty things about The. President and fifty,
Speaker 1: CENT i would just like to know for fifty cent,
Speaker 1: specifically what the beef is With, diddy whatever that may.
Speaker 1: BE i don't. KNOW i don't follow it like. That
Speaker 1: he does not like this. Man he feels whatever it
Speaker 1: is that he feels About. Diddy this is not my
Speaker 1: laying ladies and. GENTLEMEN i don't follow the hip. HOP
Speaker 1: i like my. MUSIC i like listening to hip, hop
Speaker 1: BUT i don't follow the storylines that come to SOCIALD
Speaker 1: i know nothing of the history between fifty cent And,
Speaker 1: diddy But diddy has me wanting to find. Out i'm,
Speaker 1: sorry Fifty cent has me wanting to find out what
Speaker 1: that history. Is because most people would just not say.
Speaker 1: Anything you unders, saying If trump says what he, says all,
Speaker 1: right no matter what their feelings, are they ain't gonna get.
Speaker 1: Involved did Fifty cent don't give a? Damn you don't
Speaker 1: give a? Damn he literally is saying he's gonna reach
Speaker 1: out To trump to Remind trump of the things that
Speaker 1: P diddy has said about him for the soul express
Speaker 1: purposes of making sure That trump doesn't hard and did
Speaker 1: he in the event That diddy gets convicted of sex
Speaker 1: trafficking and. Racketeering that's what fifty cent is wanted to.
Speaker 1: Do AND i gotta admit to, you that's. Wild Damn
Speaker 1: you know you got an enemy there when a man
Speaker 1: wanted to go out of his way to contact the,
Speaker 1: president you, know and clearly he has some kind of
Speaker 1: inroads where he can get To President, trump So President
Speaker 1: trump can hear. Him he's basically, Saying, yo, brother need
Speaker 1: to go. Down, brother need to go down and stay.
Speaker 1: Down that's what he's. Saying so if did he didn't
Speaker 1: have enough, problems having fifty cent on your ass is a.
Speaker 1: Problem that's a. Problem that's the only THING i can
Speaker 1: feel from it at this moment in. TIME i would
Speaker 1: love for Fifty cent to tell us what exactly is
Speaker 1: his disgust With, diddy other than to discuss we all
Speaker 1: feel from the videos we already, saw it would be
Speaker 1: really interesting to see. That i'm just. Saying i'm just,
Speaker 1: saying that's it for this adition to The STEVEN. A Smith.
Speaker 1: SHOW i hope you all enjoyed. IT i KNOW i. Did
Speaker 1: i'll be back at you in a couple of days
Speaker 1: AS i get set to cover THE Nba. Finals it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a doozy at LEAST i hope it will.
Speaker 1: BE i hope it goes six or seven. GAMES i
Speaker 1: hope it's no, sweep BUT i hope it's no gentleman
Speaker 1: sweep of Five. GAMES i hope it's a real, series
Speaker 1: But indiana is gonna have to show up in order
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Speaker 1: show as. WELL i will be back with y'all of
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