1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to another new episode of 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: You Need Therapy. My name is Kat and I'm the host. 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Here quick little reminder before we get started. Yes, this 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: podcast is called You Need Therapy, but this and itself 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: is not therapy. It is just a resource. Now. I'm 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: coming to you guys as a bright, new shiny thirty 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: two year old and my birthday was this past Saturday, 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: and it's just so weird to me that I'm thirty two. 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: I never actually thought I would even never be thirty, 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: let alone thirty two. And I mean that in the 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: sense where when you're younger and you think about where 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: you're going to be in like ten years, I always 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: thought about it in this like way that like it 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: never actually was going to happen, Like I never actually 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: thought I would get there. Just ten years seemed so 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: long and far away. And well, I think I'm learning 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: that it's not. And I also have to renew my license, 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: like my therapy license this year, and thinking about that 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: and doing the work I need to do for that, 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: plus realizing then as I was doing that, that I've 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: been basically doing this like being a therapist for nine years, 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: really just kind of got me thinking, and I was 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: thinking about how, like I started this career. I started 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: being a therapist a long time ago, Like I went 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: to school when I was twenty two, started my internship 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: when I was like twenty three. And I just started 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: thinking about like how I started, and then like what 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: I've learned along the way. And it's so funny because 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: when you start being a therapist, you can't just know 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: all of the things that you're going to know that 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: eventually make you into the kind of therapists that you are, 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: like evolve you into the kind of therapist you are. 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: You have to just start with what you know and 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: learn along the way. And you start with the information 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: and the trainings you do in school, and that's so important, 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: but you learned so much by experience and being a 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: human and you can only learn so much in the classroom. 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean, definitely helps you need to go to school, 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: but if you want to be a therapist, um, but 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: it's not the only part. So what I started to do, 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: and I made this like super long list, is I 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: started to write down all of the things that I 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: have learned like along the way. So I started making 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: like a Google doc that just basically it was like 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: quotes or just like messages or hard truth or just 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: myths and stuff like that, like things I've learned along 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: the way that have been really helpful and kind of 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: helped evolve me into the kind of helper I am. 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: And some of them took nine years to figure out, 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: and some took like thirty days and clicked immediately. Some 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: make sense and at the same time or very hard 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: to still like sit inside of your soul, like you 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: can know them, but it's hard to like feel know them. 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: And this list is like fifty six pages long. So 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to do an episode where I kind of 56 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: talked about this list, but that would be too much. 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: It would just me be like reading those things, and 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: so I don't think that'd be helpful. So I decided 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: to pick fifteen. They're not necessarily the top fifteen. I 60 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: don't think you can rank this stuff, but they're just 61 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: a portant ones that I just chose. So some of 62 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: the stuff I've talked about on here, some of it 63 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: I have not. It's a little bit of a mixed bag. 64 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: So let me present to you fifteen things being a 65 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: therapist has taught me so far. Number One, it's not 66 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: always about you. Yeah, this one is so hard to 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: actually believe sometimes, but so freaking powerful when you do. 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: Usually we are born this like insanely ecocentric, being like 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: that's just how we are in the early stages of development. 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Being ecocentric is like the very normal tendency or or 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: way that a child sees everything as it all relates, 72 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: and it's happening to them. It's not like being selfish, 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: it's just not You don't have the ability to like 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: understand how the world works yet. And as we move 75 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: through life, we're supposed to grow out of this and 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: we're supposed to develop this ability to see that like, 77 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: other people's behavior isn't always revolving around us, but it 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: doesn't always happen. And then what does happen is we 79 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: can find ourselves saying, over and over again things like 80 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: what's wrong with me? Why am I not enough? Why 81 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: wasn't I enough? Why was I too much? What could 82 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: I have done better? And the reality is these are 83 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: all irrelevant because often the behavior of others has very 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: little to do with us, and we just can't stop 85 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: making it about us now. Often this can happen as 86 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: a result of childhood trauma, maybe needs be it emotional, physical, 87 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: any of that aren't met consistently, or you grow up 88 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: in chaos, or a family member leaves or a family 89 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: member dies, when you're still in that like natural state 90 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: of ecocentric nous and as a small child or adolescent, 91 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: we just naturally think these things are because of us. 92 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: And if that belief isn't addressed, then it just becomes 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: like a screen, which I've talked about the screens on 94 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: this podcast a lot, so it becomes kind of like 95 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: a lens that we see the world through, and it 96 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: actually is not accurate. When we do develop and we 97 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: do adopt the truth that like not everything is about us, 98 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: our world has the opportunity to just like change dramatically. 99 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: So number one, it's not always about you. Number Two, 100 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad in the world, and they're 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: still good. The trick is allowing yourself to see both. 102 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: And oh my gosh, my first couple of years working 103 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: as a therapist, I got like emotionally beat up. I 104 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: found myself stuck in this spot of do I become 105 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: jaded by life and do I just think the world 106 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: is evil? And do I just like take on this 107 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: hardened outlook on humanity or is there like another option. 108 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: I would like there to be another option, but I'm 109 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: leaning towards like become jaded by life. And I found 110 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: myself in the spot where like I didn't really know 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: how to survive and like enjoy being in our world. 112 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: I was doing that thing where like you see something 113 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: and basically it's all you pay attention to, so then 114 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: it's all you see, and then you just think that 115 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: you see more of it because it's all you see, 116 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: but really it's because you're just paying attention to one thing. 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: So we do it to ourselves. And the truth is 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like fucked up ship in the world, 119 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: like a lot, but that's not all there is. And 120 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: I cannot take away the bad. We cannot take away 121 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: the bad. We can't get rid of that. But me 122 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: thinking that the world is just forever evil robs me 123 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: of the ability to experience that this is not the 124 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: whole story. There is good in the world, we just 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: have to be brave enough to see it. Number three, 126 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: not everything can be fixed, and not everything deserves fixing. Yeah, 127 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: so this kind of speaks to itself. Humans have a 128 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: hard time sitting in discomfort. I think we've definitely decided 129 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: that here on the podcast. And it can be super 130 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: uncomfortable to have broken relationships, broken anything. Often relationships and 131 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: things break because they just don't work together, So not 132 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: everything can be fixed, and not everything deserves fixing. Number four, 133 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: we would all be very lost without Valley moments. Now. 134 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: I know this one is very cliche, but also it's 135 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: not wrong. This always reminds me of the part in 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: The Glass Asshole, which was a book that I had 137 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: to read an undergrad and I kind of want to 138 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: read it again because how freaking good it is. But 139 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: there's this part in the Glass Castle where they're talking 140 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: about the Joshua tree, and I'm just gonna read a 141 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: little like it's like two sentences from the book. One 142 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: time I saw a tiny Joshua tree sapling growing not 143 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: too far from the old tree. I wanted to dig 144 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: it up and replant it near our house. I told 145 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Mom that I would protect it from the wind and 146 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: water every single day so that it could grow nice 147 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: and tall and straight. Mom frowned at me. You'd be 148 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: destroying what makes it special, she said, it's the Joshua 149 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: trees struggle that gives it its beauty. Oh, and I 150 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: just love it because if you know what Joshua Tree is, 151 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: it's those like windy twiny and like twirly things and 152 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: like they're so freaking cool and it's so true like 153 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: the struggle that that gives it. It's beauty. Without the struggle, 154 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: it wouldn't look that way. And I will always stand 155 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: by the idea that we can be grateful for our 156 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: growth without being grateful for the thing that made us grow. 157 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm not grateful for trauma. I would be very clear 158 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: about that. I not grateful for trauma. I am grateful 159 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: for parts of me that I was forced to find 160 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: and see and hold and know because of what I've 161 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: gone through. I'm not grateful for the trauma, but a 162 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: lot of the hard parts of life or what have 163 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: forced me to tap into the parts of me that 164 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: I might not ever find if I didn't have to 165 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: find them, which leads me to number five, four or 166 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: five and six kind of all to go together. Number five. 167 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Asking for help is one of the most vulnerable and 168 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: courageous things humans can do. This is also one of 169 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: the things that is the hardest for people to do, 170 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: which I found very very, very very early on. It 171 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: is extremely difficult for people to ask for help for 172 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: different reasons. And I wonder often when we're going to 173 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: universally acknowledge that, like asking for help is like actually 174 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: a huge act of strength and power. I mean, we're humans, 175 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: and humans were put on earth more than one at 176 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: a time, I'm pretty sure for a reason. And we 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: were literally created to need people and to be connected 178 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: to people, like actually we were born connected to another human, 179 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Like it's that literal. And what we know through through 180 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: just like living life and also through research and science 181 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: is that like humans can't develop fully in like a 182 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: vacuum by themselves. They need people. They just do. If 183 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: you want to be a functional human, you need other people. 184 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: That is just a truth. And we never stop being 185 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: humans throughout our lives. So like it's not like when 186 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: you're a kid, you can you can need people because 187 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: you're a human when your kid, But when you get 188 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: older you turn into this like robot thing that doesn't need. No, 189 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: you're always a human, So that means you never stop needing, 190 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: which brings me into number six. Like I said, four 191 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: or five and six are kind of connected. We don't 192 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: just need help in our valley moments. I love talking 193 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: about the valley. I really do. Maybe I'll do an 194 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: episode on that. But this was a later lesson for me. 195 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: It came after I realized very early on that asking 196 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: for help is an amazing sign of strength. But I 197 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: think it clicked after I realized how important like aftercare 198 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: was when it came to the recovery process. Like when 199 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I was working in treatment and you put so much 200 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: effort into making sure people had all this aftercare and 201 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: we had all these resources, and we had to these 202 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: backup plans, these all the stuff, and it was like, 203 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: why do these people are sober now they've worked on 204 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: their trauma. Why do we still need this? And it's 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: because like when we come to like the early stages 206 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: of like okay, I need help, Like when we were 207 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: finally like okay, I need help, there's usually like a 208 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: little bit of like motivation to do the work and 209 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: feel better, and then like we we get excited because 210 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: things are working, and then we're climbing to the top 211 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: of the mountain and we're getting out of the valley, 212 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: and so we're doing all the things, and then once 213 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: we get to the top of the mountain, it's like, Okay, 214 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm done, But then we forget that, Like, the reason 215 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: that we got to the top of the mountain is 216 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: because I was doing all of these things. So what's 217 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: going to happen when I stopped doing these things? When 218 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: I stopped needing to support or thinking that I need support, 219 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: When I stopped doing the things that I know helped 220 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: me walk into my day with a good attitude or 221 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: the energy that I need. When I do the things 222 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: that allow me to rest, when I do the things 223 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: that allow me to all that, you're going to fall 224 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: down the mountain. If we stop doing the things that 225 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: make us feel better and more full and more human 226 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: and more alive, then eventually we're going to go back 227 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: to where we started. I get why that's tough and 228 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: why we don't want that to be true, because it's 229 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: like this, does the work ever end? But like it 230 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: kind of doesn't. We just got to keep doing those things. 231 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: We don't just need help. In value moments number seven, 232 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: conflict is necessary to build intimacy. If there's no conflict 233 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: in a relationship, then somebody's not being honest. I'll just 234 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: say that if there's no it's never ever, ever, ever, ever, 235 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: ever ever ever ever any conflict in a relationship, somebody 236 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: is not being either transparent or honest or vulnerable. And 237 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: there's no way that two people never have one ounce 238 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: of conflict if they're both being fully themselves. And I 239 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: say this knowing that conflict isn't bad. It's an opportunity 240 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: to know someone deeper and learn, just like we learned 241 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: from my value moments, right. And I love this idea 242 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: that I ran into. And this could be a whole 243 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: another point, but I'm gonna put it in here that like, 244 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: what makes a relationship strong isn't how compatible and like 245 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: perfect you are together, but how you handle incompatibility, like 246 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: when those things do come up when you do disagree. 247 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: It's not really about oh, we just fit perfectly because 248 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: we are a perfect match, because like perfect does not 249 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: exist in the world. It's oh, we know we are 250 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: not perfect, and in our imperfection we have the ability 251 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: to sit and work through and be in that stuff together. 252 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: So conflict is necessary to build intimacy. If I want 253 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: to know somebody deeper, I have to allow them and 254 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: I have to allow myself to be fully vulnerable. If 255 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: I want intimacy, I have to be vulnerable. Vulnerability invites conflict, 256 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: Conflict helps us know people deeper. All of that is intertwined. 257 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: Number eight. If it looks like someone's life is perfect, 258 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: there is a very high chance it's actually chaotic. And 259 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't really need to say a 260 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: lot here, but like hear me out, I see it all. 261 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: I see it all, like I see the insides of 262 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: so many people's lives, and I just needed to trust 263 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: me here, Like, perfect is not a thing. So if 264 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: something looks perfect, there is a chance that you are 265 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: either not seeing the full picture or there is a 266 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: lot of masking going on. And the good news is here, 267 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter because we don't need to identify 268 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: how good our life is by sizing up someone else's 269 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: life around us. And I heard Annie f Downs say 270 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: this on her podcast That Sounds Fun one time, and 271 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: I just love it so much. She said, if we 272 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: are deciding if our life is okay by looking at 273 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: someone else's life, we're always going to come up wanting 274 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: because we usually look at like the outsides of other 275 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: people's lives, and we compare our insides to everybody's outsides, 276 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: and we think that they're outsides are perfect, and like, 277 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: maybe they are. I don't know, that doesn't really make 278 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: sense to me because perfect and one person isn't perfect 279 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: to another, and like what it is perfect and all that. 280 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: But if we are always looking to other people to 281 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: figure out if we have enough, we're always not going 282 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: to have enough because the reality is we all need differences, 283 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: we don't all need the same. But if you think 284 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: somebody's life is perfect, I just want you to know 285 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: you are probably not seeing the whole picture, or you're 286 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: not seeing clearly. Okay. Number nine, You cannot withdraw your 287 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: way to connection. And this is a tricky one because 288 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: I bet more of us do this than we want 289 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: to admit. But one of the deepest and like most 290 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: like I guess, universal desires for human beings is the 291 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: desire to connect, to connect with other people. We all 292 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: just like want connection and connection heals us. But to 293 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: get connection, we have to move to We can't move away, 294 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: and so often we do this thing where we lean 295 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: away hoping that someone will lean into us. But as 296 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: we lean away, a lot of times those people either 297 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: stay where they are or they also will lean away 298 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: too because they're like sensing your vibe. Right, you can't 299 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: withdraw your way to connect action. That's a very passive, 300 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: aggressive and just like not honest. It's not vulnerable, and 301 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: connection is vulnerable. It's not the true way to actually 302 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: connect to people. Connecting to saying hey, I have a need, 303 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: Hey have a feeling, Hey have a desire. I need 304 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: you to hear me. It's not rolling over and hoping 305 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: that the other person will tap you on the shoulder 306 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: and be like, what's wrong? All right? Number ten, Acceptance 307 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: can be more healing than love. Love, in fact, is 308 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: not always the answer. And I know this is crazy, right, 309 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: It's crazy that I just said that, because we're not 310 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: taught that. But sometimes it's impossible. Sometimes it's just impossible 311 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: to love something or someone. It just is. And in 312 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: those cases when we can't learn to love ourselves or 313 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: our bodies or somebody else or an experience, we get 314 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: to choose something else, like there is another option, and 315 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: that other option is called acceptance. And there actually is 316 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: a skill called radical acceptance that a woman named Marsha 317 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: Lenahan has created in her skills that at go into 318 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: this overhead idea of therapy called DPT. It's a whole 319 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: school of therapy dialectical behavioral therapy, and radical acceptance is 320 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: one of the biggest skills used inside of that therapy process. 321 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: And the truth is it's very very very very very 322 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: exhausting to fight reality. Like it's very exhausting, and then 323 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: also it doesn't work, like we can't just like fight 324 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: reality and then win and be like reality is not reality. 325 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: I win, like, no, you can't actually change reality. And 326 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: I also confine myself trying to do this sometimes like 327 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: this can't be true, this isn't whatever. I have to 328 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: learn to do this or I have to do that. 329 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: But refusing to accept reality doesn't make our pain go away. 330 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: It just ends up turning our pain into suffering. So i' 331 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna say that again, refusing to accept reality doesn't make 332 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: our pain go away. It just turns our pain into suffering. 333 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: So this skill of radical acceptance is very helpful in 334 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: situations when you can't change reality and you can't change 335 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: how you feel about reality. And radical acceptance does not 336 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: mean that you agree with what's happening or what has 337 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: happened to you. Rather, it just signals like an opportunity 338 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: for hope because you are accepting things as they are 339 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: and not fighting. So if you want to learn more 340 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: about radical acceptance, you honestly could google it and find 341 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: a lot of good information on it. Um If you 342 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: search Marsha Lenehan, a bunch of stuff will come up. 343 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: DBT is awesome. So if you're in therapy, you can 344 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: like ask your therapist I want to learn more about this. 345 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: Most therapists know at least a baseline amount of DPT 346 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: because their skills can be universal even if you don't 347 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: practice solely DBT. And maybe we'll do a whole episode 348 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: on that as well. One day, we're going to do 349 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: this podcast forever, I've decided, so we have a lot 350 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: of episodes so I can use whatever topics that I 351 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: need to use. Number eleven. Sometimes things don't make sense, 352 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: and that's the point period. One of the biggest encouragements 353 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: I would like to give to any and all human 354 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: and beings is do not attempt to understand why a 355 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: dysfunctional or very unhealthy person does what they do. Just 356 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: understand that it's dysfunctional, understand that they're not healthy, and 357 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: then put a period to actually figure that out. Can 358 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: sometimes be super damaging because at the same time, you're 359 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: trying to rationalize certain behaviors that can't be rationalized. For example, 360 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: when people ask questions like why did this happen to me? 361 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: When talking about like abuse or trauma and stuff like that, 362 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: it sends a message that your abuse has something to 363 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: do with you, and it can be explained and it 364 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: can make sense to you. And abuse just can't make sense. 365 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: It's not okay. And I know we want to make 366 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: sense of things because it tells us like in our heads, 367 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: if I can make sense of this, I can understand it, 368 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: and then maybe I won't feel this way. But I 369 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: think it's very empowering to know that there are certain 370 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: things that don't make sense because they're so messed up. 371 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: So sometimes things don't make sense. And that's just the 372 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: point Number twelve. Behavior is a symptom, not the problem. 373 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: And this is where the idea of focusing on the cause, 374 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: not the symptom comes. And when it comes to addiction, 375 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: especially I am relentless here. I did an episode on 376 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: addiction a while ago that I highly suggest listening to. 377 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: And there's this genius man named Gabor Mate who I 378 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: talk a lot about on that episode, and he illustrates 379 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: this idea perfectly when he speaks about how addiction is 380 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: looked at in our society because we look at humans 381 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: and we say like why are you doing this? Why 382 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: are you smoking? Why are you drinking? Where you're doing 383 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: these drugs? Why are you watching this? Or why why 384 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: do you keep doing that? And it's like, well, maybe 385 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: that's not the question we need to be asking, because 386 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: maybe that behavior is not actually the problem, and it's 387 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: a symptom of a bigger problem. And so the question 388 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: we might want to ask instead of like why the 389 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: addiction is why are you in so much pain? So 390 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: behavior is a symptom, it's not the problem. And I 391 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: think if we can own that for ourselves and other people, 392 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: it can allow us to be so much more loving 393 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: and caring towards ourselves and accepting. If that's what you need. 394 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: You don't actually have to work hard to be who 395 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: you are. You have to work hard to stop being 396 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: who you Aren't just let that one sink in. Being 397 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: ourselves actually comes very naturally. It's the other stuff that 398 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: clouds are are being and and clouds our relationships, and 399 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: it clouds our thoughts. That fear of not being able 400 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: to control being loved or understood or being loved by 401 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: certain people really screws with our ability to show up. 402 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: So we develop all of these things, whether their behaviors 403 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: or thoughts, or ways we show up, and all of 404 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: the ways we look, ways we dress. We develop all 405 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: of these things and attempt to get what we all 406 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: truly want, love, connection, acceptance, belonging. And then these become 407 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: like coats of armor almost and and and so it's 408 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: it's not so hard to be you. That's a natural thing. 409 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: If you took the coats of armor off, there you'd be. 410 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: But it's hard to take this coat of armor off 411 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: because if I take this off, what's going to happen? 412 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: What won't I get? What won't I have? And the 413 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: question I would even ask here to like transform that 414 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: what won't I get? What won't I have? Is what 415 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: is my armor keeping me from? What's my armor keep 416 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: me from? If I was created on purpose, for a purpose, 417 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: with purpose the way I was for a purpose, but 418 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: then I put all this armor on, I don't show 419 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: up with that as that human. There's something that I'm 420 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: like probably not getting because the creation I was created 421 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: as doesn't get to show up. But it's really really 422 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: hard and scary to take that stuff off. And so 423 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: people I hear people say all the time, like I 424 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: don't know who I am, or it's hard to be 425 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: who I am, and or it's hard to show up 426 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: as authentic. And I'm like, I don't know if that's 427 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: the thing that we need to look at. I think 428 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: it's hard to let go of the things that we've 429 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: put on top of who we are. Number fourteen. It 430 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: is truly never too late. Honestly, I want to make 431 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: this one short and simple, because the thing here is 432 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: unless you're dead, you still have time. That that applies 433 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: to anything. Unless you're dead, you still have time. And 434 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: there are so many things in our lives that we 435 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: are like, oh, my time has passed. I can't do that. 436 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: It's too late for this. It's too late for that. 437 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: And it's like when we see this all the time, 438 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: the time is going to pass that you're moving in, 439 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: so like you might as well use it to do 440 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: what you want to do or be he want to be, 441 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: or say what you want to say. That time is 442 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: going to move, so do you want to move with 443 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: it or do you want to kind of stay like 444 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: almost like holding yourself back. But it is never too late, 445 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: never too late to go to therapy, It's never too 446 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: late to to work on yourself. It's never too late 447 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: to get back to school. It's never too late to 448 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: think about starting a job. It's never too late to 449 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: start a new hobby. It's never too late you could 450 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: be And you're like, I want to learn how to 451 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: play the piano. It doesn't mean that you're going to 452 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: be like incredible piano player, but you can learn maybe, 453 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: which brings us to number fifteen. We made it all 454 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: the way to the end. This is one of my 455 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: favorite things ever. So I know I said in the beginning, 456 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: like I can't rank these, but like, this is one 457 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: of my favorite things in the whole entire world. And 458 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: it is this simple, simple, simple idea and truth in fact, 459 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: that you cannot heal what you refuse to acknowledge. And 460 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: I say this one of our last because as simple 461 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: as it sounds, it's one of the most important things. 462 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: I think we can learn to hold on and plant 463 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: inside of our beans. That we can't heal things that 464 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: we aren't acknowledging. We can't into wounds that we pretend 465 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: aren't there. And it's hard and it's scary, I know, 466 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: to acknowledge stuff, to acknowledge pain, it's scary. But remember 467 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: us not acknowledging pain doesn't make it go away. It 468 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: just turns our pain into suffering. So I'm gonna leave 469 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: you with that one because I think it's so powerful. 470 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: And maybe you think about, like, what are the things 471 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: that I'm refusing to acknowledge that like actually deserves some healing, 472 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: And maybe if I give myself that healing, it might 473 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: be easier for me to take some of this armor 474 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: off and then I can be myself. Is that part? 475 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: You already have the structure to do be yourself? So 476 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: there are my fifteen things I learned on my journey 477 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: of being a therapist. And maybe we'll do a part 478 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: two one day, because this list will continue to grow 479 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: till the end of time and change, and I might 480 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: change my mind on some of them because we're allowed 481 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: to do that as humans. We are allowed to change 482 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: our minds which gets to go on the list. But 483 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: I hope that was helpful for you guys, and I 484 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: think that you guys could also be making these kinds 485 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: of lists like you could also. I mean, this is 486 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: a human thing, so you're moving through life. You're also 487 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: learning things about humidity and yourself and all of that, 488 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: so this could be a little encouragement to start your 489 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: own little list of things I've learned from being a 490 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: human being. If you have any questions, remember you can 491 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: always email me Catherine at You Need Therapy Podcast. You 492 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: can follow me at Cat dot de Fatah or the 493 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: podcast at you Need Therapy Podcast on Instagram. I love 494 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: when you guys connect with me on there, and I 495 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: love when you guys send me emails and questions and 496 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: all of that. So I'm gonna leave you with that, 497 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: and I hope you guys have the very day you 498 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: need to have, the very week you need to have, 499 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go have the Monday that I need 500 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: to have. By guys,