WEBVTT - Tigers respond to trade deadline chaos 

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Foul Territory Network Trot Tiger's podcast. I'm Karen Steckley

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<v Speaker 1>with me as always as a man who likely enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>a few local cold brews this morning. He is Cody Stavenhagen.

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<v Speaker 1>How are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Went with a hot Americano But but yeah, doing all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Good coffee town here in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>Good coffee town. And yeah, and and good baseball being

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<v Speaker 1>played by the Tigers again. So the trade deadline comes,

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<v Speaker 1>we speculate about what it's, what does it mean in

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<v Speaker 1>the future, and all these things, and all the Tigers

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<v Speaker 1>just do is keep on hitting the ball, keep on

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<v Speaker 1>scoring runs, and keep on winning games of climbing and standing.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the diconomy that is just so appropriate for

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<v Speaker 1>this team and this season that like, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the sky is falling? Did they do enough? Blah blah blah?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this the wrong decision? Should they have done this earlier?

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<v Speaker 3>Boy?

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<v Speaker 1>Mine is they continue to play good baseball. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about the game that happened. Recording

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<v Speaker 1>this early in the morning Eastern time, after the Tigers

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<v Speaker 1>with a eight nothing win over the Seattle Mariners. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the vibes Cody, you are there. I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>some background noise that's being picked up on the mic,

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<v Speaker 1>but and that's okay. You're in the press box. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the vibes of the team right now? After having

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cut their starting pitching and then like people

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<v Speaker 1>in Limbo, you got Jack Flaherty being like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Will Smith Fresh Prince mean, like, what are the

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<v Speaker 1>vibes of the clubhouse right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote this, you know, my story for the Athletic

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<v Speaker 3>It's been almost difficult to describe. It's not quite been

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<v Speaker 3>solemn or dejected or it's not been certainly not been happy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just been different. That's the word I sett alone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just different. There are some big personalities, important characters

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<v Speaker 3>sucked out of that room, not just Trek Schoubel and

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<v Speaker 3>Casey Myz, but still going back to Jake Rogers, even

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<v Speaker 3>going back to Jami Jones. Some guys who are really

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<v Speaker 3>part of the fabric of this team aren't in there anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have a lot of new faces Eduardo Valencia,

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<v Speaker 3>Max Clark, like you know, all these other guys and

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<v Speaker 3>the complexion of this team has just materially changed over

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<v Speaker 3>the past week a week plus, and so I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure anyone quite knows how to act or how to respond.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's been a mix of emotions. It's obviously

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<v Speaker 3>tough losing guys like that Trek and Casey and Jake

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<v Speaker 3>and others who were so close to so many guys

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<v Speaker 3>in that clubhouse. But Spencer Toorgelsen does something interesting. A

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days ago, we've talked a lot about like

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<v Speaker 3>the leadership, who are the leaders? Is there a lack

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<v Speaker 3>of leadership? Thorgelsen said, you know, there's not really one

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<v Speaker 3>ring leader. It's leadership by committee, anythings that can help

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<v Speaker 3>the team in a time like this, And I'd never

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<v Speaker 3>really thought of it from that perspective. Is leadership committee

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<v Speaker 3>by committee a real thing? Or is that like an oxymoron?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure, but in a time like this, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, well, I don't know, there never really was

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<v Speaker 3>other than maybe Scooble, that one central guy who ran everything.

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<v Speaker 3>And so now the leadership complexion changes, the responsibilities certainly

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<v Speaker 3>shift a little more on the way away from the field,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that falls more on Tourgulsen Rightley Green on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that falls more on Troy Melton. Clearly, despite all

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<v Speaker 3>the emotions of the past few days, they're doing okay

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<v Speaker 3>because they've won four straight. They've scored eight plus runs

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<v Speaker 3>in six straight games here in this little sample, they're

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<v Speaker 3>playing some of their best baseball of the entire season.

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<v Speaker 3>They're one and a half game out of a playoff spot,

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<v Speaker 3>which is kind of ridiculous to say out loud given

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<v Speaker 3>what we've gone through here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, I would agree in a general sense that

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<v Speaker 1>leadership by committee is largely bs if you made me,

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<v Speaker 1>like pick one or the other, Like that's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how I feel. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>it never exists, and that doesn't mean that it can't,

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<v Speaker 1>like it can't just kind of be more of a

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<v Speaker 1>reflection of the way that Like, if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>pick a baseball team that would have leadership by committee,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote, it would probably be a team that on

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<v Speaker 1>any given day is going to use the entire bench

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<v Speaker 1>like AJ likes to do, right, It would probably be

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<v Speaker 1>a team that's gonna be so matchup dependent that every

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<v Speaker 1>single arm available that day, like actually has to be

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<v Speaker 1>available that day because you just never know what could

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<v Speaker 1>what what AJ is gonna opt to do right. So

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<v Speaker 1>like if rose colored glasses perhaps, But what do you

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<v Speaker 1>want me to say when they, like you said, when

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<v Speaker 1>they've scored six straight games with eight plus runs, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like that like something the formula

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<v Speaker 1>and the ingredients are obviously meshing well. And again you

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of look at the box score. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Torres hits a home run. You know, Riley

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<v Speaker 1>Green hits a home run. You have contribution still from

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<v Speaker 1>uh from McKinstry, a guy that you know, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>say I've been elated by his play this season, like

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<v Speaker 1>like Cole Keith has been hot. So like that is

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<v Speaker 1>the committee? Like this is the committee tags? Did we

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<v Speaker 1>just come up with the next one? Cody?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they the committee?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they? Are they the committee tags? Because that might

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<v Speaker 1>be that might be the case, and that might be

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<v Speaker 1>how they you know, kind of scratch and cloth pun

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<v Speaker 1>their way into the playoffs. And then if we were

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<v Speaker 1>to go with like a star of what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday night, it's it's it's obviously Troy Melton. And

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<v Speaker 1>so like I I don't know if people are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>believe me, but I had I was like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do the Colin Cowhert thing like Trek Schouoble, We're good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Uh, And then clark is King on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>put it out there, so technically he's got it first.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll I'll give him credit, but I promise you I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it down. I was gonna do that thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like Derek Scooble, We're good, we got Troy Melton, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? And and and that's a joke,

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<v Speaker 1>especially given what the origin of the meme meme is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know what else to say about Troy Melton,

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<v Speaker 1>neither Cody because seven ennis today, three hits, zero runs.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy is ace material. That's really how he's pitched

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<v Speaker 1>kind of his whole major league career. Like like, am

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<v Speaker 1>I exaggerating here? Like am I exaggerating to say that

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<v Speaker 1>he has pitched?

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<v Speaker 3>Is like what two point two or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking kier and I'm getting scared by what Troy

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<v Speaker 3>Melton is doing. So it's kind of like it's not

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<v Speaker 3>sneaking up on me or you, like we've been watching

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<v Speaker 3>it and talking about it. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, wait, he's having a historic start to his

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<v Speaker 3>major league career, and I don't think this is getting

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<v Speaker 3>as much do. I mean, I remember in twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>when Schooble returned from his flexor tendon surgery and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just lights out. You know, someone at the Athletic I

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<v Speaker 3>think they were playing like the I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>it's the Phillies or the Guardian. Somebody. Someone sent me

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<v Speaker 3>a message like, oh, this team is making Trek Scuball

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<v Speaker 3>look like Steve Carlton, and he's like kind of making

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<v Speaker 3>fun of like the other team for sucking. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, well, I'm not trying to say Steve Carlton,

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<v Speaker 3>but this guy's kind of really good. Maybe you should

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<v Speaker 3>start paying attention. And that's where we're at with Troy Melton, who,

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<v Speaker 3>from what I can tell's a game like zero National

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<v Speaker 3>pub and yet has just been the dude again. This

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<v Speaker 3>is since Troy Melton got off the AL this season twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>This was before Tuesday Night's game. His first eleven starts

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<v Speaker 3>one point seven five ERA. That's now down to I

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<v Speaker 3>think one point five to eight. The only pitcher in baseball,

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<v Speaker 3>starting pitcher minimum fifty innings who has been better is

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<v Speaker 3>Jacob Mizerowski, who is literally having a historic season now.

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<v Speaker 3>It is interesting if you look at this list for

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<v Speaker 3>your why on YouTube, Melton has one of the lowest

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<v Speaker 3>wars of these top ten pitchers here. He's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>underperformed or overperforming his FIP his expected era. It's because

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<v Speaker 3>the strikeout numbers still aren't great. The eight K per

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<v Speaker 3>nine range, even the home run ball is higher than

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<v Speaker 3>all these other guys on this list, so that's something

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<v Speaker 3>to like watch. But we've seen it. Man. He has

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<v Speaker 3>a six pitch arsenal. He has multiple weapons to go to.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really been the cutter a lot, but tonight it

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<v Speaker 3>was more the splitter. It seems like Mariners hair has

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<v Speaker 3>almost tried to shy away from that cutter a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>He mixed in the splitter really well. He has so

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<v Speaker 3>many different ways to attack guys, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>part of why he's able to succeed even if the

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<v Speaker 3>strikeout numbers aren't through the roof, and we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>that some. I think his stuff is good enough. He

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<v Speaker 3>has the capability to start getting more punch outs, and

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen a couple outings where he has had a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more swing and miss. Still getting better. Still

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<v Speaker 3>figuring things out. This guy's really good. And right now

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<v Speaker 3>he is pitching like an Acy's pitching better believe it

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<v Speaker 3>or not, than Trek Scoople was seven seven or more

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<v Speaker 3>scoreless outings. He already has three in his Tiger's career.

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<v Speaker 3>Casey May is finished with three, Matthew Boyd finished with three.

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<v Speaker 3>He's already matched what those guys accomplished basically in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of peak dominance as Detroit Tigers, which is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what I love about him is that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know I've said this before, but I love

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<v Speaker 1>his demeanor. I love like just like how nothing seems

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<v Speaker 1>to get to him. Even in the seventh inning, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one out away from getting through it. And he

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<v Speaker 1>gives up the single to cal Riley there and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Fedder just wants to make sure, like, hey, everything's good,

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<v Speaker 1>goes out to the mound and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody caught it, but he's like laughing with Dylan Dingler.

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<v Speaker 1>Melton is like right before Feedder gets you know, potentially

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<v Speaker 1>into proximity and then and then he gets like really

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<v Speaker 1>serious and then you know, takes coaching the points or

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, blah, blah blah, and then he and

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<v Speaker 1>then he gets in and then he catches the line

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<v Speaker 1>out to end his uh end his outing right, so

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<v Speaker 1>like like it's just it's perfect. It's like the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he operates. I love and so like, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for reasons to get hyped and excited, it's this

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<v Speaker 1>guy Kieren.

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<v Speaker 3>How about after that fourth inning, he's in a little gym,

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<v Speaker 3>two runners on base, Boom punch out to out, Boom

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<v Speaker 3>punch out of cal Raley, and what do we get.

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<v Speaker 3>We get a little fist bump, a little a little yell,

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<v Speaker 3>a little light version of the trek schoogle signature.

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<v Speaker 1>Roar.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was really fitting. Maybe a little passing

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<v Speaker 3>in the torch. You start doing more of that, you

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<v Speaker 3>can start captivating some audiences, maybe getting a little more

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<v Speaker 3>of the national tension that it's certainly going to be

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<v Speaker 3>coming his way soon enough. If he continues to pitch like.

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<v Speaker 1>This, like I said, we're good, and we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a quick break and then afterward we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna just talk about this offense is just

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<v Speaker 1>All right, coming back here, so I'm sure you guys

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<v Speaker 1>saw the graphic the Tigers have scored six and more

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<v Speaker 1>run or, assuming two main numbers, eight or more runs

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<v Speaker 1>in six consecutive games, the first time they've done that

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<v Speaker 1>since early July of nineteen twenty seven. So it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I went, yeah, it was a great year. I went

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<v Speaker 1>and looked up the lineup. That was funny enough. So

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<v Speaker 1>this happens in the midst of you know, Derek Schooble,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what his projection is long term in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what his legacy will be. But obviously a Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame stretch is going in here. Ty Cobb maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest Tiger of all time. This was his first

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<v Speaker 1>year off the Tigers. You know, he played one year

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<v Speaker 1>with the Philadelphia Athletics. So here's the lineup Cody for

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen twenty seven Tigers. That was the last time

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<v Speaker 1>this team had eight runs in six consecutive games or more.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Warner, Charlie Garrion, him Heeny Manush, Bob Father Gill,

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Hollman, Johnny Noon, Jackie Tavor, Johnny Bassar, Larry Woodhall,

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<v Speaker 1>and Earl Whitehall. And there's a obviously Pitcher's still bad

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<v Speaker 1>personal friends, yes, yeah, friends of the podcast. Actually yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of pinch hitters, obviously because

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<v Speaker 1>there was no DH back then. But that's two Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of famers. The main point is that's two Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>famers in the lineup there, Cody and two Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>famers that did it a lot with the bat too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not just not just with the gloves. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little perspective that we have here. And what's

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<v Speaker 1>funny is like if you're just like looking for confirmation

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<v Speaker 1>bias as to why to not to give up like

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<v Speaker 1>this is another example is like his story stretch of offense,

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<v Speaker 1>like literally a historic stretch of offense from this team

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<v Speaker 1>when every game is crucial. Now, again, that was when

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<v Speaker 1>only one team in nineteen twenty seven obviously goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series. There's a lot more and that was

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the year. Now, like the pressure has been

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<v Speaker 1>on for a long time. I think that's actually one

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<v Speaker 1>of the more impressive things about this, Cody, is that

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't June fourth through ninth or whatever, right when

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<v Speaker 1>they just got hot. You see what I'm saying, Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is when like they've been having to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>play playoff baseball for a couple months now and then

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<v Speaker 1>you throw in the emotions of the trade deadline. That's

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<v Speaker 1>to me as impressive as getting the ball out like

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<v Speaker 1>in the thick Seattle air, you know, right after coming

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<v Speaker 1>off the Sacramento Triple A Stateum, you see what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is like a mental and like a four

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<v Speaker 1>to two test for this team that they have passed

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<v Speaker 1>with flying covers colors that they're able to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan Dickerson set it on the radio, I think a

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<v Speaker 3>fifty three game stretch where they've been averaging close to

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<v Speaker 3>five and a half runs a game. I haven't got

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<v Speaker 3>the fact check that because it almost seems unbelievable, but

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<v Speaker 3>they've put up some twelve thirteen spots, so maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's true. I assume it's true. If Dan said

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<v Speaker 3>it on the radio makes you take a step back.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's still been some weak offensive nights in there,

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<v Speaker 3>some nice everything. I mean, they really have that good

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<v Speaker 3>of a lineup, but they've been hitting the ball. They've

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<v Speaker 3>been hitting the ball out of the ballpark. I think

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<v Speaker 3>more than ninety home runs in that stretch, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty impressive because you just look at this lineup on

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<v Speaker 3>paper and it still doesn't always feel all that formidable,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet here they are. Since that turnaround data on

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<v Speaker 3>June first, they've been one of the best offenses in

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<v Speaker 3>baseball and it hasn't really slowed down of it maybe

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<v Speaker 3>slowed down there for a while, and now it's now

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<v Speaker 3>it's back in full force. These guys are hot, which

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<v Speaker 3>almost makes me nervous because like, okay, can you really

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<v Speaker 3>sustain that for two more months or is there They're

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<v Speaker 3>a dramatic fall off about to come. That's just how

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like this game works sometime. But at credit

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<v Speaker 3>a credit to these Tigers in a way here in

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<v Speaker 3>this lineup, I mean, you have Valencia up here now

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<v Speaker 3>instead of Jake Rogers, you have Max Clark up here

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<v Speaker 3>and playing instead of I don't know, like James Outman's

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<v Speaker 3>not playing every day anymore. In a way, you have

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<v Speaker 3>more talent offensive talent on this roster than you did

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<v Speaker 3>for the majority of that run. Although they're rookies, it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be pretty interesting to see what's a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that we've done recently is we've

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<v Speaker 1>we've focused on the you know, the trade deadline, the

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<v Speaker 1>school boy question, because obviously that was the biggest story

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<v Speaker 1>in the sport. So we haven't really had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of talk about Max Clark. And you've been

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<v Speaker 1>there the entirety from Sacramento now to Seattle of his

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<v Speaker 1>you know, major league career up to this point, and

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<v Speaker 1>you and obviously you follow them interviewed him, you know

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<v Speaker 1>prior uh, take us to the Max Clark experience right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I always look for when a

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<v Speaker 1>young guy comes up is not necessarily like when does

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<v Speaker 1>he get his first hit? And you know, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like like the stat part of it, although obviously that

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<v Speaker 1>will be the most important thing. I look for comfort, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and does he look like he belongs? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you when you're six for sixteen and you've

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<v Speaker 1>got four walks, and you're and and you're playing the

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<v Speaker 1>outfield aggressively and calmly, which I think is how is

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<v Speaker 1>how he's played thus far, Max Clark does not look

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed by being a major league baseball player. And and

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<v Speaker 1>four games in, that's about the best compliment I think

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<v Speaker 1>I can give somebody given the stakes, given how he's

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<v Speaker 1>been a like a celebrity in the game for this

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<v Speaker 1>long and the criticisms that he's taken, just from even

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<v Speaker 1>the Tigers fan base like he he looks like he

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<v Speaker 1>is just right in stride as a major league baseball player,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the best sign so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one of the things I've really come to look

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<v Speaker 3>for in young players over the years is just are

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<v Speaker 3>they making progress? Can you see signs of them getting better?

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<v Speaker 3>So I go straight to the defensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we saw it in spring training. He did

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<v Speaker 3>not look comfortable at all. He looked like he was

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<v Speaker 3>in his own head, even on defense. We talked about

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<v Speaker 3>it throughout this year. I was hearing from scouts. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he was built as this plus center fielder and is

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<v Speaker 3>like the defensive instincts just aren't as good as they

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<v Speaker 3>were billed to be or you think they would be. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just four games in the big leagues, but mex

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<v Speaker 3>Clark has been stellar in center field and he is

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<v Speaker 3>getting just a plus jumps and making some really difficult plays.

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<v Speaker 3>And A. J. Hinch has talked a lot about all

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<v Speaker 3>the work you know he did in TRIPAA on his

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<v Speaker 3>pre pitch on getting reads and that is translating. Will

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<v Speaker 3>it be this good for you know, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty two games. I'm not sure, but you can see

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<v Speaker 3>tangible signs of growth and progress. And then you still

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<v Speaker 3>have seen a very steady approach at the plate. He's

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<v Speaker 3>not trying to do too much. That's one of his

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<v Speaker 3>biggest strengths is making good swing decisions. The fact he's

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<v Speaker 3>able to come to the major leagues and not stray

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<v Speaker 3>from that approach, just like what Kevin McGonagall did. That's

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<v Speaker 3>really encouraging. You know, there are other questions to answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you lift the ball consistently? Can you hit for power?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you do all this? His process has been so

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<v Speaker 3>good throughout four games, very small, but just really impressed with,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, the comfort, the process, and the signs

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<v Speaker 3>of growth, some of them subtle, some of them quite

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<v Speaker 3>quite conspicuous, especially the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, to the point about the defense, he had

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<v Speaker 1>that catch on can zone in the fourth ding today

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<v Speaker 1>and it was kind of like a slide, half die,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, but he had to

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<v Speaker 1>come up on that ball. According to Jason Beck, you

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<v Speaker 1>put this on Twitter, traveled one hundred and twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>feet thirty point one feet per second to get to

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<v Speaker 1>that ball. And if you'll notice that he must have

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<v Speaker 1>called that early because there was no one else really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of because that was kind of like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a tweener. And you got Zach McKinstry and

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<v Speaker 1>right field, who obviously has the ability to go chase

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<v Speaker 1>down the ball. Zach McKinstry didn't make a real play

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Obviously Glaber wasn't gonna get there. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was Max Clark's ball all the way he wanted it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I mean where it's like command and calm,

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<v Speaker 1>like he knew that that was his ball, he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go get it, and then and and he has

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<v Speaker 1>enough of juice of presence of trust that we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>collisions this year that like things like that aren't happening

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<v Speaker 1>on plays like that.

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<v Speaker 3>This doesn't really chase balls over his head. Yes, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>You got Max Clark out there, when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got Max Clark behind you, like you can get away

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<v Speaker 1>with that a little bit more. All right, We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to a quick break and then afterward

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it should be noted Cody that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more encouraging signs that we saw from Melton in

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<v Speaker 1>additionally just being lights out, is that he allowed a

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<v Speaker 1>J Hinch will only have to deploy two relievers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the offense played a huge part in that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with with the late with the late surge there too.

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<v Speaker 1>I know our friend Mark Grosh likes to say on

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<v Speaker 1>on X like, you know who's getting the last six outs, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time, when you have an eight nothing lead,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter all that much most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time, most of the time. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a recent example of that not necessarily being the case,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of the time. And and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake wagisback comes in there gets a shutout inding and

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<v Speaker 1>then uh and then new addition taking Casey Mises spot y,

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<v Speaker 1>Albert Diaz comes in and it closes it out. So

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the direct roster move, Diaz coming up, and

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>he gets in the first game with with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the Casey Mais trade. But probably more i would say,

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<v Speaker 1>more important and definitely more exciting, is that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see Jackson Job here pretty soon. Cody, how about that?

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<v Speaker 1>How about that?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he was I thought he would make another

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<v Speaker 3>start in Triple A. Nope, he's coming up. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>pitch against the Giants this weekend. And it feels like

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<v Speaker 3>it's been a long time since we've seen Jackson Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it has been it's been more than a year,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's almost so much has just happened since then.

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<v Speaker 3>The focus has been so away from him. Interesting to remember,

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<v Speaker 3>like Jackson Joe boutings are kind of must watch just

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<v Speaker 3>because of how electric he is, how much potential is there,

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<v Speaker 3>and how much we're all still trying to find out,

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<v Speaker 3>like can he put it all together? Also worth remembering

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<v Speaker 3>he's yet to really have tangible, sustained success at the

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<v Speaker 3>major league level. He hasn't pitched in the major leagues

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<v Speaker 3>very much. I'm really excited to get Jackson Joe back

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<v Speaker 3>on the mound and watch for losing Casey Miiz and

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<v Speaker 3>losing Trek Scuogl. The Tigers before the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>year are going to add two guys who can throw

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<v Speaker 3>upper nineties, if not one hundred, we know Job can

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<v Speaker 3>throw one hundred and is really fun to watch. And

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<v Speaker 3>then River Ryan acquired in the Schooble trade, again coming

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<v Speaker 3>back from a hamstring injury. I think there's hope he

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<v Speaker 3>can start in the major leagues by or pitch in

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<v Speaker 3>the major leagues by September, if not, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit sooner. And he has a pretty similar arsenal of

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<v Speaker 3>just elite, nasty premium stuff. Both these guys coming off injuries,

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<v Speaker 3>but both these guys pretty tantalizing to watch. Job here

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a little sooner than we would have first expected.

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<v Speaker 3>He is coming off TJ. Let's remember, very few guys

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<v Speaker 3>come straight off Tommy John surgery and are at their peak.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you can even go look at his rehab starts.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't quite breeze through even high a the way

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<v Speaker 3>Trek Scoople did when when Trek visited the kids in

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<v Speaker 3>West Michigan. So I think there's still a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>refining to do with Jackson Joe. But talk to him today,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, classic story, like learned a lot going through

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy John about himself, about who he is away from baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a kind of the new appreciation that comes when

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<v Speaker 3>the game gets taken away from you. So Jackson job

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<v Speaker 3>about to be back to being he must watch start.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think we were among the more vocal

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<v Speaker 1>people being like, I think the Tigers plan is for

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<v Speaker 1>him to be like part of this, you know, late

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<v Speaker 1>season run. And I don't think I don't think August

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it will be, all the days running together, tenth, eighth, ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it will be, was kind of like the date

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<v Speaker 1>that we had in mind. But like he obviously has

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<v Speaker 1>checked every single box along the way, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of it's a neat thing, like kind of need

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson job here, you know, give and given the stay

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<v Speaker 1>of the team and the trades and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what, if he is at least promising,

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<v Speaker 1>that's obviously gonna make schoobl in myz trades a lot

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<v Speaker 1>easier to swallow. So really excited to see what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other piece of this is that Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson will be slotted into the start in rotation. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he's not fully stretched out, so that will be like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a process. But I'll be curious

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<v Speaker 1>to see how he does in this role. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be positive about it, maybe this is better

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<v Speaker 1>suited for Drew Anderson. He's been up and down this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows this, but he was brought in with the

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<v Speaker 1>thought in mind like this guy is or could be

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<v Speaker 1>or ought to be used in some fashion if need be,

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<v Speaker 1>as a starting pitcher.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, and going to the bullpen was a

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<v Speaker 3>tough adjustment for him right off the bat, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>why you got off your really bad start to the season.

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<v Speaker 3>He just wasn't used to it. And he has improved

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<v Speaker 3>and then been kind of up and down. But you

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<v Speaker 3>obviously to see the stuff is there with Drew Anderson.

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<v Speaker 3>This has been probably the most positive podcast we've done

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<v Speaker 3>since when. I don't know, so if I we gotta

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<v Speaker 3>have some some edge here, aj Hinch said Jackson Job

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<v Speaker 3>and Drew Anderson. He basically said, they're going to stretch

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<v Speaker 3>both of them out responsibly. So I'm not expecting either

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<v Speaker 3>of those guys to come out throw a hundred pitches.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what that means, Karen, That means this bullpen

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 3>is gonna have to eat some more innings for two

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<v Speaker 3>fifths of the rotation going forward. That makes me a

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 3>little uncomfortable. You better keep leveraging, yeah, leverage innings and

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<v Speaker 3>not just let it. I mean might have bull going

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 3>be going to the bullpen in the fifth, the sixth inning,

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<v Speaker 3>you better keep scoring eight plus runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Well look, recent recent trend say that that with like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna happen, Cody. So we'll see, We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens moving forward with the rest of the Seattle series.

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