Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Let's bring in Chris Collinsworth, the Emmy Award
Speaker 1: winning analyst for Sunday Night Football. Also he's the owner
Speaker 1: of Pro Football Focus and he has the Chris Collinsworth Podcast.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about the Bengals and you know,
Speaker 1: they're not going in Oh woe is me? But can
Speaker 1: they play the play this up a little bit of
Speaker 1: it's Us against the World in the Super Bowl. That
Speaker 1: would assume some some humble qualities of this football team,
Speaker 1: which I don't know. I don't know if they have
Speaker 1: or not. You know, it's a they think they're the
Speaker 1: best team in football. They think that they are never
Speaker 1: out of a game, despite it being twenty one to
Speaker 1: three on the road. They think they can go into
Speaker 1: Tennessee and knock off the number one seed who had
Speaker 1: a week's rest, and beat Pittsburgh twice, and beat Kansas
Speaker 1: City twice, and beat the Baltimore Ravens twice, and beat
Speaker 1: the number one seed and go into Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: basically a home game for the Rams and beat the
Speaker 1: Rams there. So I don't think they have that quality.
Speaker 1: They just would kind of laugh about if you said,
Speaker 1: are you guys really think you have a chance in
Speaker 1: this game? They go, yeah, we probably have a chance.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just who they are. When you look
Speaker 1: at the tape. If you're going to look at the
Speaker 1: rams first, what's the one thing that would make you
Speaker 1: nervous with this team and the performance on Sunday? Nervous
Speaker 1: for them or again nervous for them. Vulnerability? Vulnerability, I
Speaker 1: would think because of some of the injuries they've had
Speaker 1: at the safety position, Jordan Fuller and Taylor Rap now
Speaker 1: Rap maybe back. I don't know what's going to happen there.
Speaker 1: But if this group of three receivers could get down
Speaker 1: the field and work some magic down there, I think
Speaker 1: that would give the Bengals a little bit of an advantage.
Speaker 1: Although I've got to say Nick Scott was phenomenal against
Speaker 1: the Tampa in the game that we did, and Eric
Speaker 1: went against the run game with San Francisco was phenomenal
Speaker 1: coming down in the box and making plays. But these
Speaker 1: are three legitimate threats at wide receiver, and I think
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is already the best receiver the Bengals I've
Speaker 1: ever had, And that's saying something because I watched Isaac
Speaker 1: Courtesy was a teammate of mine. You saw him plenty.
Speaker 1: You know exactly who I'm talking about. Chad Ocho Sinko
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal run in his career, but I've never
Speaker 1: seen anybody do with Jamar Chase has been doing, I mean,
Speaker 1: catching five yard passes and not even not even getting touched.
Speaker 1: You know, I forget about they couldn't tackle them, They
Speaker 1: couldn't even get it. They couldn't even win one hand
Speaker 1: against the guy, and going seventy yards for huge plays
Speaker 1: against Kansas City and against Baltimore when they needed it most.
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: fun on this, on this Bengals offense. The vulnerability for
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Can we start with the offensive line? Yeah,
Speaker 1: no question, that's it, um it's and then probably in
Speaker 1: particular that the right guard and right tackle position a
Speaker 1: team identity, and Jackson Carmen at that guard position are
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of Aaron Donald unless they
Speaker 1: go the opposite way, which I can see happening too.
Speaker 1: That they love that overload defense. They love putting Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald on the on a three rush side. So maybe
Speaker 1: Von Miller sitting outside of him and Greg Gaines being
Speaker 1: at the no tackle position inside of him to try
Speaker 1: and create that one on one matchup, and if they
Speaker 1: flip it to the other side away from right card position,
Speaker 1: then do you end up with somebody else being in
Speaker 1: a position to be the hero of the game. Do
Speaker 1: they start trying to luke Leonard Floyd down inside against him,
Speaker 1: you know? Or do they blitch Troy Reader or don't
Speaker 1: you know what exactly is the game plan? But everything,
Speaker 1: everything on this team gets built around Aaron Donald. So
Speaker 1: whatever they can do to create those one on one
Speaker 1: matchups for him, that's what they're going to do. Comparing contrast,
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and Cooper Cume about as different as they
Speaker 1: could be and from a lot of different standpoints. But
Speaker 1: I think that I think Cooper Cume is severely underrated,
Speaker 1: which is incredible to say as a guy who won
Speaker 1: the Triple Crown of receiving, and I would argue that
Speaker 1: you have to add a fourth component as well, and
Speaker 1: that's what he started blocking. I mean, so much of
Speaker 1: what this team can do comes off of play action
Speaker 1: passing and the ability to protect this offensive line and
Speaker 1: to for him to go dig out defensive ends and
Speaker 1: linebackers and pop through there somehow and block the safety
Speaker 1: and give the cam Acres of the world a chance
Speaker 1: to go make an explosive plays. I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: that big a guy, you know. I mean, but he
Speaker 1: blocks like he's a two hundred and forty pound tight end.
Speaker 1: He's one of the most impressive guys that I've seen.
Speaker 1: But Jamar Chase is to me, has a chance to
Speaker 1: be considered one of the greatest receivers we've ever seen
Speaker 1: in the game. Really, yeah, I think he's that good.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Chris Collinsworth. He'll be on the call
Speaker 1: the fifth Super Bowl that he's called. He'll be with
Speaker 1: Al Michaels and Michelle Tafoya. That will be MDC in
Speaker 1: Peacock this Sunday. How surprised car players when they find
Speaker 1: out that you actually played in the NFL. Surprised some
Speaker 1: of them because I always said my goal in life
Speaker 1: when I was playing was to walk around the streets
Speaker 1: one day and have somebody who didn't know me walk
Speaker 1: up and say, you know, you look like a football player.
Speaker 1: I never got that, never once in my entire life,
Speaker 1: even when you were wearing your uniform out in the streets.
Speaker 1: They still know which I would do? Would but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's um, I don't even know what the question. No
Speaker 1: that do have players who don't know that you played football?
Speaker 1: For sure? Oh for sure? Yeah, and um, but they
Speaker 1: don't know that trement played to some extent, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean these guys, they're so funny and they're so
Speaker 1: fun and they're they're all great communicators now because they're
Speaker 1: all you gotta be on social media, right, That's the
Speaker 1: only way you have a social life in the world
Speaker 1: today is you've got to be able to put on
Speaker 1: be your own producer and create your own content on
Speaker 1: your own cell phone. And and nobody's going to the
Speaker 1: media to break a story anymore. You just go on
Speaker 1: your cell phone and you say whatever you want and
Speaker 1: then you get all the attention for yourself. So they're
Speaker 1: all very good on camera. They all have a bit
Speaker 1: of a sense of humor with everything, and there's this
Speaker 1: brutal honesty to them, so where if if they don't
Speaker 1: know who you are, they'll just tell you. You don't
Speaker 1: have to guess. It's not like in the old day
Speaker 1: where somebody's going to go like, yeah, you know, try
Speaker 1: and work the edges a little bit like, who are
Speaker 1: you again? Did you play? You know what? You know?
Speaker 1: So they'll they'll let us ask you. You're one of
Speaker 1: six players to play on both of the Bengals previous
Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams? Is that right? I think so? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was one on one. I know that. I don't
Speaker 1: know about all the other. But so you lose them
Speaker 1: on ten on both of those, which one which one
Speaker 1: hurts more? Um? You know the funny thing is most
Speaker 1: people would say the team because you know, it came
Speaker 1: down in the last thirty four seconds and they had
Speaker 1: to drive ninety yards in the final two minutes to
Speaker 1: beat us and all that. I always thought that the
Speaker 1: eighty one team was the one that kind of hurt
Speaker 1: the most. Maybe it was just because it was my
Speaker 1: first year or whatever the case, but that was a
Speaker 1: really good football team, and Kenny Anderson played well enough
Speaker 1: to win that game and be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: All of us and me in particular, made mistakes and
Speaker 1: that in that first Super Bowl, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: the sting of that sort of always lives with you.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they both aren't believe it's At one time
Speaker 1: I wore an AFC Championship ring to a party, and
Speaker 1: all anybody wanted to do is talk about the two
Speaker 1: Super Bowl losses. I go this right, idea, I just
Speaker 1: started in my pocket for the rest of the whenever
Speaker 1: you run into Joe Montana, does this come up at all?
Speaker 1: That you know he he cost you two super Bowls?
Speaker 1: He didn't, He won two Super Bowls. I just happened
Speaker 1: to be on the back end. And we were the
Speaker 1: Washington generals for the for the forty nine ers in
Speaker 1: the eighties. But Joe is such a good guy. I
Speaker 1: would love to hate him, would you. I Mean, there's
Speaker 1: something I just loved to hate him, and you just can't.
Speaker 1: He's just such a nice guy. I remember one time, Dan,
Speaker 1: we were flying back from the Pro Bowl together, a
Speaker 1: little humble brack there, and but we just we just
Speaker 1: happened to be on the sitting next to each other,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and of course Joe kicked our
Speaker 1: head in and won the Super Bowl and all that.
Speaker 1: And he is literally pounding one drink after another to
Speaker 1: try and work up the nerve for takeoff with this airplane.
Speaker 1: And I mean, he was as white knuckled as any
Speaker 1: flyer I've ever been in an airplane with and just
Speaker 1: couldn't talk, couldn't fortune, and was just it was making
Speaker 1: him crazy, And I go, are you really, Joe Montana?
Speaker 1: Is this the guy that beat us every way imaginable
Speaker 1: when I was playing for Cincinnati. But he's a humble
Speaker 1: guy and I can't even find it in me to
Speaker 1: hate him. You have any issues with the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 1: I don't watch the Pro Bowl. We used to, we
Speaker 1: used to announce it. Is it still as bad as
Speaker 1: it was? So they look like they're no tackling Chris.
Speaker 1: They played two in touch on Sunday. I don't watch that.
Speaker 1: I really like football, and if I want to watch
Speaker 1: two hand touch, I'm like, go watch the kids. When
Speaker 1: do you meet with the coaches and the quarterbacks? Wednesday
Speaker 1: and Thursday? So we'll go out. Took Bengals practice the
Speaker 1: other days in Cincinnati, and but we'll go Wednesday and
Speaker 1: Thursday to watch both practices. I'll leave you with this.
Speaker 1: The Bengals will win if if they can get it protected.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really about as simple as that. And
Speaker 1: you know they're not going to get it protected every down.
Speaker 1: These guys are just too good up front. Can they
Speaker 1: get it protected when they have chances for big plays
Speaker 1: and if they can, these receivers can make big plays happen. Chris,
Speaker 1: thank you as always, we appreciate your contributions the entire season.
Speaker 1: We'll be watching on Sunday. All right, Dan, good seeing.
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Speaker 1: Not enough to talk about. We showed a promo last
Speaker 1: night and it's there were twenty one of us on
Speaker 1: the screen. They actually work, They actually photoshop twenty one
Speaker 1: human beings on a screen. And you know how I
Speaker 1: even texted you about this when when Peacock made a
Speaker 1: promo for NBC Sports on Peacock. Yeah, and I always
Speaker 1: notice who's in the center, who's on the side. Who
Speaker 1: has shoulder on another? Because you know when they photoshop
Speaker 1: somebody in, they photoshop in somebody behind you or in
Speaker 1: front of you, and and um, I let it be known. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I require shoulder when it comes to photoshopping
Speaker 1: and a promo. And I noticed on the Peacock one
Speaker 1: you had shoulder on me. And but that's but that's
Speaker 1: I didn't know that these are things I need to
Speaker 1: work on, um until I you know, I need to
Speaker 1: make it. Yeah, who's got shoulder? Take a look at
Speaker 1: all these promos like last night when for the for
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Opening night show, Um, I you know,
Speaker 1: interviewed Borrow and Stafford together and they put a promo
Speaker 1: for that together, and they gave me shoulder on both
Speaker 1: Super Bowl quarterbacks. And it might be the only time
Speaker 1: I have shoulder on both Super Bowl quarterbacks. Congratulations. It's
Speaker 1: a long time coming. It has been long building, A
Speaker 1: long time became momentum has been building. I mean I'm
Speaker 1: looking for a sports emmy. You're looking for shoulder. Well
Speaker 1: you have one of those things. No, we don't. Oh collective, yeah,
Speaker 1: we we're oh for the last four Uh well, I
Speaker 1: mean I mean we're the Buffalo Bill. We're the Buffalo Bill.
Speaker 1: We are four consecutive loss. So basically what your are
Speaker 1: you saying that PTI has shoulder on the day show? Yes,
Speaker 1: because I'm assuming that is the show. MLB Tonight beat
Speaker 1: us one time. I thought NHL Tonight was gonna edge
Speaker 1: us out one one time. But yeah, if you lose
Speaker 1: to pardon the interruption, I'm okay with that, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm all right, yeah, yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: only twenty two minutes show. I mean, you know this
Speaker 1: is three hours. Yeah, they don't take that into considerate now,
Speaker 1: they don't know, they don't. I love how people always go, Nan,
Speaker 1: I'd love to do that your show. You know, you
Speaker 1: just get to talk all the day, all day, and
Speaker 1: I go, okay, once you try it, give it a
Speaker 1: world like go three hours, let me know how you
Speaker 1: do you and you know what happens. Usually they go
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. That first fifteen minutes, they're on fire, they
Speaker 1: got stories, they got everything all then to go, what
Speaker 1: am I going to talk about from now? On? First
Speaker 1: year I was on the air, um, you know, on
Speaker 1: audience back in our the old days. Um I the
Speaker 1: first year that my show is only was twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: I guess. So I was still doing Thursday Night Football
Speaker 1: on the Road for NFL Network. So the Fridays after
Speaker 1: Thursday Night I would have fill in hosts, and I decided,
Speaker 1: you know, why not have like the old Carson days,
Speaker 1: have a celebrity fill in host So I would offer
Speaker 1: the three hours to celebrities, and they just didn't quite
Speaker 1: grasp the three hour nature of it. So one year,
Speaker 1: one Friday, I had Bobby CONIVALI the actor, do it,
Speaker 1: and I saw him after the show. I flew back
Speaker 1: in and I saw him that night and he's like,
Speaker 1: I had to take a nap. I am wiped it out.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, you do like Broadway, you do
Speaker 1: two shows any day, you do a Wednesday matinee and
Speaker 1: a Wednesday and the Wednesday and night Saturday mattinee, Like
Speaker 1: you do eight hours of live acting. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I know what I'm gonna stay in and he
Speaker 1: goes not knowing what to say. It wipes you out.
Speaker 1: Somebody has scripted all of that, and that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And people go, you know, as your scripted. I don't, No,
Speaker 1: you can't of course not. Yeah, It's like yesterday I
Speaker 1: was on Richie's show and we found out about Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray scrubbing is you know social media accounts of the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. You go, this is going to be a
Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, as soon as you see that in
Speaker 1: the twenty first century, this is something you can read
Speaker 1: into it. What's this about? I hear you guys your
Speaker 1: poll question the first hour. I can't believe it would
Speaker 1: be money because somebody of his, you know, um stature
Speaker 1: should understand the money's coming, and you know um on
Speaker 1: top of it. I understand that you know you you
Speaker 1: you think the money's coming, but you never know that said,
Speaker 1: winning a super Bowl in your first contract is what
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. And that's how DeAndre Hopkins winds
Speaker 1: up out here, and how they can afford to work
Speaker 1: in AJ Green and TJ and JJ Watt, you know,
Speaker 1: and and so on and so forth. It build your
Speaker 1: team out. If you're going to start demanding to be
Speaker 1: paid now, that would be a problem. That said. He
Speaker 1: does see Josh Allen getting his when he got it,
Speaker 1: and he might be pitching a fit. But I I
Speaker 1: don't see how this works. What they're just going to see. Wow,
Speaker 1: you you only have two Instagram photos now you had
Speaker 1: three hundred. Ye look out. I guess we should start
Speaker 1: forking over something that starts with a four. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: what's that all about it? Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the end game is, but it just feels it felt
Speaker 1: like I want to get paid. Maybe I up the
Speaker 1: timeframe and I get paid a year earlier, or you
Speaker 1: can utilize your two sports star status when the other
Speaker 1: sport is not locking out. You know, like this is
Speaker 1: the wrong time, the timing, the leverage timing is in Japan,
Speaker 1: Like is that where he is at your plan? I
Speaker 1: don't know how that works. Yeah, And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know what his leverage has to get out
Speaker 1: of there. I don't know if he has a problem
Speaker 1: now with Cliff Kingsbury and the way he calls plays
Speaker 1: and what it feels like Kyler Murray. Because of his contract,
Speaker 1: they were able to bring in some veterans, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: that made you formidable. You know, it's not like you're
Speaker 1: there with Josh Rosen with you know, the talent he
Speaker 1: had or didn't have. You know, you have a good team.
Speaker 1: You were in a very competitive division. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: the last remaining undefeated team of this year. So it's
Speaker 1: just that that that team with Kingsbury has had an
Speaker 1: odd way of fading down the stretch. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how this addresses that at all. So I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. I don't know at all what
Speaker 1: it is. But also, as you pointed out when you
Speaker 1: were on my show yesterday, his strategy sometimes oh your
Speaker 1: grassmen at straws as to why somebody would say appeared
Speaker 1: as super Bowl when there's a question is he going
Speaker 1: to play which sport? Make himself available to somebody like yourself,
Speaker 1: and then expect that you're gonna walk out of that
Speaker 1: interview without being pressed on that one subject you don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about. So how does that happen? And
Speaker 1: you know what people don't realize is Rich interviewed Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray before we had him on Live. Now, a good
Speaker 1: friend would have come down the hall to tell Yer's
Speaker 1: too fast, He's too fast. He escapability Dan that day
Speaker 1: was remarkable, No, because I saw Rich after and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't very good with us either, And I go
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, why didn't you tell me that? I
Speaker 1: could have just said, hey, it worked out. I think,
Speaker 1: oh worked out. I don't know. Yeah, Paul and I disagree.
Speaker 1: I think that's good producing by Rich. He didn't spoil it,
Speaker 1: and he just walk him down. You'd get something out
Speaker 1: of him. Oh, I warned him off. I warned Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray that you got on your problem. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Mine didn't get aired till later. So and all I
Speaker 1: was asking, you have to have an answer for what
Speaker 1: sport are you going to play? Or do you want
Speaker 1: to play? And I had somebody who told me about
Speaker 1: twenty minutes before, Hey, I see where you got Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray and text me, Uh, you know he's gonna play football.
Speaker 1: If he's you know, top ten, top five pick, he's
Speaker 1: definitely playing football. So I brought it up to Kyler
Speaker 1: and he's like, he's just like and then his dad
Speaker 1: was like fifty feet away, and I'm yelling across the
Speaker 1: room to his dad. I'm asking his dad questions, is
Speaker 1: he going to play? Yeah? It's been playing baseball football? Hello, unbelievable. Um,
Speaker 1: So Rich Eysen's here hosting the Super Bowl, a home
Speaker 1: super Bowl for the NFL networks. Yeah, normally you're on
Speaker 1: the road and you're calling home, and I know, now
Speaker 1: this time around, I'm actually having a parent Dan. Normally
Speaker 1: it's just dad's FaceTime and for ninety seconds, and they
Speaker 1: don't want to talk on FaceTime anyway. So now I'm
Speaker 1: actually having to go home and parent. So you got
Speaker 1: any suggestions, anybody, you know? Normally I'm just sitting in
Speaker 1: a hotel just keeping my head down. Well, this has
Speaker 1: just been and plus the NF Film Network. We're now
Speaker 1: across the street from the stadium, so our network is
Speaker 1: inside the security perimeter of the Super Bowl, So that
Speaker 1: adds an extra layer of fascinating status. But it's great. Honestly,
Speaker 1: In two thousand and three when we moved out here
Speaker 1: at the network and started it up, and people were like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing in Los Angeles? There's no NFL
Speaker 1: in LA at all. Poor Sam Farmer or the LA
Speaker 1: Times is the only guy at the State of the
Speaker 1: State for the Commissioner raising his hand and asking questions
Speaker 1: about LA and everyone's looking at like, weirdo, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Like why are you keeping on keeping
Speaker 1: the flame lit? Now five and a half billion dollars stadium.
Speaker 1: NFL Network's got a new spot across the street from it.
Speaker 1: Two NFL teams play there. One of them is playing
Speaker 1: in the actual Super Bowl here. It's unbelievable. It sets
Speaker 1: up nicely for the Rams. But the pressure on the Rams, yeah,
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, Yeah, is what I would say.
Speaker 1: You know, I know everybody's saying it's house money for
Speaker 1: the Bengals. You know, if the Rams lose the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: it's not going to cost anybody a job. I fully
Speaker 1: believe less Need has things set up where it's not
Speaker 1: like some people have got to go. I think they
Speaker 1: will be able to figure out to keep Vaughan and
Speaker 1: Odell and everybody kind of digs it here. They really
Speaker 1: like each other. I don't sense any you know, when
Speaker 1: you see a team like they've got to win now
Speaker 1: they're all in, they're gonna break up. There might be
Speaker 1: some fissures within the front office. There might be something
Speaker 1: like that. I just think if there is any pressure,
Speaker 1: it would be when are you going to get back?
Speaker 1: Although Stafford thinks, I would think that he's in a
Speaker 1: great spot. That said, it would be a great momentum
Speaker 1: for the Rams to win this game and help build
Speaker 1: a fan base or Yeah, that's what I was wondering about.
Speaker 1: The fan base. But I was looking at this. If
Speaker 1: Stafford wins and plays, well, yes, he's gonna go to
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I agree. If Joe Burrow wins,
Speaker 1: now he's halfway to the Hall of Fame, right. It
Speaker 1: feels like he's in that Russell Wilson Patrick Mahomes category
Speaker 1: of Wow, you got one too. Well. I think that
Speaker 1: if if Burrow wins, it's not so much a hall
Speaker 1: of fame talk. I think the talk is, well, here's
Speaker 1: somebody where and this is the way it's going to
Speaker 1: be for the rest of our lives and our kids' lives.
Speaker 1: I think maybe our grandchildren's lives. Is is this guy
Speaker 1: someone who can catch Brady? I think this is the Yes,
Speaker 1: this is the conversation you're going to start to hear, well,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I mean, well, you're you're gonna
Speaker 1: start to look for can anybody catch Brady? Whoever can
Speaker 1: catch Brady is somebody who's going to come out of
Speaker 1: college and do what he did, which he would match
Speaker 1: Tom for his first and two years. He would also
Speaker 1: have this sort of cool aspect about out him that
Speaker 1: has the it factor that Tom sort of began to
Speaker 1: grow into. I think that's the conversation that you're going
Speaker 1: to hear, not just so much. The Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: is that can Borrow be the guy to do this?
Speaker 1: And I know you mentioned Mahomes, but you know Pat
Speaker 1: is two years, you know, two super Bowls in and
Speaker 1: he's only one year in, so Burrow would kind of
Speaker 1: match him already. But Mahomes is two years older, right,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. And it feels like Kansas City is still
Speaker 1: going to be Kansas City. Well, Cincinnati could be the
Speaker 1: new Kansas City. Cincinnati might not even be the favorites
Speaker 1: in the AFC North next year. Then that's great. It
Speaker 1: could be the Ravens. I don't know why if the
Speaker 1: if the Bengals win the Super Bowl, they would not
Speaker 1: be the favorite. I don't I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: throw that out there. I just well, my job is
Speaker 1: to throw questions out. I just I appreciate it. I'll
Speaker 1: throw it back to me. That's how you have shoulder down, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's how you have shoulder That's how you gain show
Speaker 1: her status, you know. And I think they elevated your
Speaker 1: height in the promo to make you look a little well,
Speaker 1: I told them that it was smaller like I talk
Speaker 1: about these things, I don't care, you know, mon, Now
Speaker 1: he send me the picture and I go, I got
Speaker 1: other things, don't worry about. No. Well, what I said
Speaker 1: is I kind of feel like you're telling me to
Speaker 1: suck it in the backroom. You did and you said
Speaker 1: never No, I said, you never would do that. I would.
Speaker 1: So yeah. I mean, so with Borrow winning, this is
Speaker 1: the conversation. I think you're going to have, um that
Speaker 1: who can catch him? And every kid that comes out
Speaker 1: of college that wins the if he's fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: win a super Bowl for the first time in just
Speaker 1: a year two, you're going to hear that. And if
Speaker 1: somebody comes out of college and wins it as a rookie,
Speaker 1: then then we're off and running. We're going to constantly
Speaker 1: be looking to see who can actually catch this guy,
Speaker 1: which was what the conversation was last year. Mahomes beats Brady,
Speaker 1: and you know, now Brady wins, he'll keep him at
Speaker 1: arms distance, so on and so forth. But I wonder, though,
Speaker 1: if Burrow wins, now all of a sudden he's on
Speaker 1: equal footing with you know Mahomes, Yes, Russell right, Rogers.
Speaker 1: I mean, in terms of getting super yes. I mean
Speaker 1: that's because we're waiting now that Tom's retired, or at
Speaker 1: least we think he's regetered. Why why would you say never?
Speaker 1: Say never? This whole just whe you lie to Jim
Speaker 1: last week and retiring, Why don't you why this week?
Speaker 1: Now he's now he's being honest. I totally don't get
Speaker 1: anything about the Brady retirement plan execution anything. I don't
Speaker 1: understand anything about it where it wasn't it wasn't discussed
Speaker 1: all year long. Kind of get that. Don't want to,
Speaker 1: don't want a tour, don't want you know, the Jeter
Speaker 1: big poppy sort of retirement tour Rivera. You don't want that,
Speaker 1: or you really are thinking about it. Then it comes
Speaker 1: out that you're out, but you won't say you're out
Speaker 1: because you have a plan, we think. And then the
Speaker 1: plan is either scrapped or it never existed. And then
Speaker 1: clearly the plan wants the cats out of the bag.
Speaker 1: Has gotta be on your own podcast, right, And then
Speaker 1: he doesn't, and then Instagram retires the next day, and
Speaker 1: then six days later crocks the door back open. I
Speaker 1: don't okay, but imagine he's doing this podcast at home
Speaker 1: and Jim Gray's asking the question, and Giselle is just
Speaker 1: eavesdropping at the house, and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: she's hearing Jim say, so you know, think about coming back?
Speaker 1: Well you never say never, And you know, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Giselle's at the door. She finishes, She finishes
Speaker 1: it like Mike Tomlin. But never, you know, never say never.
Speaker 1: I'll just say the butt never. You know, in this
Speaker 1: house set up? Are you? Are you there? Did you
Speaker 1: sleep over? Or you heard this? But I don't drive
Speaker 1: in Dan, it's um. I don't know what it means.
Speaker 1: I don't know at all what it means, um, except
Speaker 1: that you've got Brady on the brain and maybe you
Speaker 1: want to just hang out with him or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I have no idea. And you were with
Speaker 1: somebody other than your wife, yes, okay, but I don't
Speaker 1: even know, like why she was there in the first place, okay,
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen her since college. Why were you
Speaker 1: there in the first place? I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know any of this. I just had a sleepover Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's house. We need more LA super Bowls is what
Speaker 1: this means. That's because waking up really God forsake an hour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with someone other than your own wife. I mean this
Speaker 1: is a total Los Angeles Well no, not in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Was in the dream? He could have been in his
Speaker 1: Brentwood mats. You never know, Dan, Maybe I should get
Speaker 1: out of this right now. Okay, sorry he's rich Eysen
Speaker 1: are good, buddy? Oh? Thank you? How does that a
Speaker 1: walk off? Sucker? Walk back? Rock acro Richard Again, thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure
Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon
Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and
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Speaker 1: the man who lights up the building is Michael Irvin.
Speaker 1: He and he and Rich eyesen never have the same
Speaker 1: outfits on. I will say that, never never, never, never
Speaker 1: have the same outfits on. Thank you, Mike. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Mikey careful the hair, come on, Mike. I will see
Speaker 1: you so long, I know, but I know it's a
Speaker 1: time honored tradition having here, having you at the Super Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad, And I'm glad we're back. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Been a couple of years, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all good, we're back. Well, it's all good, man. We
Speaker 1: weather the storm at Lisa, we have Rich Rising said
Speaker 1: I should ask you about Tom Brady's retirement. You're fired
Speaker 1: up about this. I'd be trying to tell youse jokers. Man,
Speaker 1: you know what, that thing sounds great at first. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have to come to practice. I can
Speaker 1: sit around the house. Should I go be able to
Speaker 1: sit around the house. You're trading one vote for another.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Are you joking? Man? It
Speaker 1: took me forever to tell my lady like I'm sitting
Speaker 1: around when I first retired, and she's like, I'm just chilling.
Speaker 1: So I take out the cottage. I'm not putting these
Speaker 1: hands on garbage heads. Got us out of the damn
Speaker 1: jetto What are you talking about? Trying to tell me
Speaker 1: to do stuff all day? Tom has had one regover
Speaker 1: one week. My bishop told me this what I retire
Speaker 1: that song? He said, Now that you're retired, he said,
Speaker 1: I want to give you some good advice. Sup. What's
Speaker 1: that Bishop? What's that? What's that? Beg Because I called
Speaker 1: him daddy, you know it's my spiritual father. I suppose that. Sure.
Speaker 1: He says, work your way back into the house. That's
Speaker 1: what you need. Work where I pay all the bills. Yeah,
Speaker 1: work your way. The house been running fire for the
Speaker 1: last twenty years without you. You gotta work you. So
Speaker 1: Tom is at that stage he just got home and
Speaker 1: he's recognizing, Man, I gotta work my way back into
Speaker 1: my old house. You know what I'm saying over there?
Speaker 1: I was the boss over here. I am being boasted. Man.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe never say never, you know, you start thinking
Speaker 1: about it, maybe going back. Never say never. Imagine how
Speaker 1: he's gonna be at a month right now, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I'm telling you, so hey, it's a combine.
Speaker 1: He's gonna all those quarterbacks. They better be ready, boy,
Speaker 1: because we got a great one on the sideline, and
Speaker 1: about a month you're gonna be looking for a job.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, everything you think is
Speaker 1: not going to go down that way. You know you
Speaker 1: would just team now, you just you just you just
Speaker 1: tee on? You would they team over the apple? At home?
Speaker 1: You did pon, you do all the work. Did you
Speaker 1: get depressed when you return? I think everybody goes through
Speaker 1: a depression, if you want to call it a depression
Speaker 1: or a reidentification. Now you're reidentifying who are you? You've
Speaker 1: been this great football player, and everybody come down every
Speaker 1: time you came around and cheered, and now char Nois
Speaker 1: has completely stopped, and you're trying to figure out who
Speaker 1: the hell am I? So so that it truly is
Speaker 1: it truly is an adjustment, and we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: You know, Tom has a many many other things that
Speaker 1: he's interested in and and all, but but those things
Speaker 1: don't don't don't grab you like what you did. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You try to find things that
Speaker 1: grabbed you like that. But I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever will. What's Kyler Murray doing? What's his end game?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. But we're in this
Speaker 1: new time and these young dudes, now, you know, they
Speaker 1: know they have one. God gave them this thing buying
Speaker 1: apparatus called a mouthgate. That's but since social media runs everything,
Speaker 1: they just speak through their social media. So he takes
Speaker 1: all the Cardinals office social media, which says to us
Speaker 1: what they all going on? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: We can't just see you at what we do. We
Speaker 1: analyze and wonder what's going on. And I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think that's going on all around.
Speaker 1: All these top quarterbacks are wanting that they want their money,
Speaker 1: so they're negotiating. You know, they're negotiating behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and these numbers are getting so high for the salary cap.
Speaker 1: That's where Ann Rodgers is going through it. Russell Wilson's
Speaker 1: going through it. I think Kyler Murge is already jumping
Speaker 1: out early and going through it. And everybody that come
Speaker 1: out and always says, it's not about money, dude, It's
Speaker 1: always about money. And whenever they tell you it's not
Speaker 1: about money, it's about money. Were you good in negotiating
Speaker 1: with Jerry Jones and the Cowboys? I wouldn't say I
Speaker 1: was good. I was in there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But this dude has been no cluche billions of dollars
Speaker 1: deal and I just came on, you know, yeah, to ghetto,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I don't want to
Speaker 1: say that I was good. I was in the room.
Speaker 1: But I love Jerry for always making me be in
Speaker 1: the room because he knew that these the kind of
Speaker 1: numbers that we were talking about. I ain't never even
Speaker 1: you know, thought of coming from where I was coming from.
Speaker 1: So he was trying to acclimate me, said Michael, we're
Speaker 1: going to be talking about some numbers. I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: never never, But you bring up a great point, though, Mike,
Speaker 1: is where you came from, right, Like, if somebody said
Speaker 1: you're gonna get paid one hundred thousand dollars, that was
Speaker 1: that was crazy money, you would have gone, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden you realize, wait, these guys
Speaker 1: getting this, Yeah right, thank hey, you're gonna bring me
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars to go catch I was I
Speaker 1: was doing that for free anyway, yeah, free right at
Speaker 1: the year on, all right, get out of here, Come
Speaker 1: on you. You had not reach out and it's not
Speaker 1: we we we we we with Miami not Michigan. How
Speaker 1: much is not going on in my head? How much
Speaker 1: did you get paid? They stop that, man, I don't
Speaker 1: even remember that stuff. What are you talking about? I've
Speaker 1: got a free apartment that was within the scholarship. Okay, car, okay, okay, No,
Speaker 1: I should have said what kind of car? What kind
Speaker 1: of car did you have? My first car was my
Speaker 1: first car. My brother gave me that first car and
Speaker 1: was a little Toyota Tour Sale. I never figured get
Speaker 1: the yellow car. And I told you guys before in
Speaker 1: the head, you know, the floorboard floor mission out of
Speaker 1: the bottom and and and my lady right now, you
Speaker 1: know my lady. She were riding around in the car
Speaker 1: and the shoe fell out on the highway. I said,
Speaker 1: we're going to let me turn around and go get that.
Speaker 1: We were hitting. You had to park on the side
Speaker 1: of her Dodge car like that shoe and get back
Speaker 1: to the sideline put it on. But we went on
Speaker 1: to dinner, man, and it was a big dinner. It
Speaker 1: was a red lobster. Yeah, so that was a big dinner.
Speaker 1: Then you were killing it. I was killing it. I
Speaker 1: realized who that was some good days. Man. What is
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones getting at He keeps saying everything, But Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: this is your last year. Dan Quinn came back and
Speaker 1: he's gonna be my coaching waiting. I mean it feels
Speaker 1: like it. Dan and I get on my boys because
Speaker 1: my boys show in r J down in uh Dallas.
Speaker 1: They they interviewed Jerry every Friday. I go on with
Speaker 1: him every Wednesday, and I always tell him, I said,
Speaker 1: stop starting stuff, you guys, start stuff. You asked Jerry
Speaker 1: a question, he says stuff, and then it goes national
Speaker 1: and I gotta be out here batting it down on
Speaker 1: the national day, you know. Uh So every time Jerry says,
Speaker 1: you all want to coach the Cowboys, everybody, everybody he
Speaker 1: wants to be a head coach. Every coach in the
Speaker 1: NFL wants to be a head coach. If he doesn't,
Speaker 1: you should not hire him. That means he has no aspiration.
Speaker 1: How can he inspire others if he's not inspired himself,
Speaker 1: So you should not hire him. Now, that's just the
Speaker 1: reality of it, Benny Jerry said, I'm dealing with this.
Speaker 1: How is it that you got both of your coordinators back,
Speaker 1: both coordinators back, and at one point your offense was
Speaker 1: the number one offense. It finished the number two offense
Speaker 1: in total and number one in scoring, and you get
Speaker 1: both your defense was the number one defense in takeaways,
Speaker 1: and people are out here saying that. Men, You know,
Speaker 1: the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and
Speaker 1: expecting the different. Like it's a bad thing that they
Speaker 1: got both of the coordinators back. Only when you're the
Speaker 1: Dallas Okay, but if you had that offense in that defense,
Speaker 1: then what are you missing? I have to look at
Speaker 1: the head coach. The coordinators did their jobs. But there
Speaker 1: are a lot of things that go on in the
Speaker 1: course of a season. Injuries here, one thing here, one
Speaker 1: thing there. So it's not just like, Okay, we didn't
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl this year, let's put a dynamite
Speaker 1: stick to this thing and blow it all up. That
Speaker 1: that makes you think they underachieved this year? They won
Speaker 1: twelve Yeah under this Wait wait wait, wait, wait, Dan,
Speaker 1: I am not in a courtroom. You are not a lorder.
Speaker 1: This is not a witness stand. You will give me
Speaker 1: a chance to answer these questions. That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: Many tea in a witness stand right here. And it's
Speaker 1: not what I'm going through right now. I know it
Speaker 1: has like and that's what I'm feeling like right now.
Speaker 1: I just don't you know what I'm saying. But but
Speaker 1: they don't listen. Man, this disappointing season, oh no doubt
Speaker 1: disappointing because you did not win a playoff game, but
Speaker 1: you won twelve games. You gotta try to first, let's
Speaker 1: let's talk. You got to try to first get back
Speaker 1: to those twelve games. So let's duplicate that and then
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs and do something different. But just
Speaker 1: getting those coordinated back that was a great get. Only
Speaker 1: only around this country and only when it's the Dallas
Speaker 1: cop was is not a bad thing. Yeah, but that
Speaker 1: comes with the territory they asked for this day. You
Speaker 1: know what, they're America's team. That's what the district attorney
Speaker 1: tried to say to me. It comes with the territory
Speaker 1: of Mike who you asked me I did. I did
Speaker 1: tell y'all to come in that hotel room. I was
Speaker 1: fine by myself. He tried to tell me. That's true,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what he try You know, my earro walking
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty. Okay, I want you to get your
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Speaker 1: sad part of what we're talking about, and you're talking
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Speaker 1: The sad part is you're going to walk away from
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Speaker 1: your life more difficult by not having to finances at
Speaker 1: least so you can try to mitigate the rest of
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Speaker 1: Are not having again opportunity to play, Let's not. Let's
Speaker 1: make sure you're not dealing with the issues of financial
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Speaker 1: Barry Sanders coming up next, Yeah, Barry Man. I only
Speaker 1: see Barry this time of the year. Yeah, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean he goes in the high well, you would
Speaker 1: never see him during playoff time either. What wait did
Speaker 1: I say that about that? Yeah? But but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Barry against this much run at super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They've never been in Super Bowl, right, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let's give it up for the play man, for Michael Irvin. Uh,
Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be down the hall. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: run into it and what what you know? This was
Speaker 1: a good thirty minute ride out here? Man? What did
Speaker 1: I hear Egypt for? Thanks for listening to The Dan
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Speaker 1: by searching f s R or stream us live on
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Speaker 1: Sanders on the street and you wouldn't think that's one
Speaker 1: of the greatest running backs ever. Thank you. Just go,
Speaker 1: oh hey, what if that seems like a nice gentleman there?
Speaker 1: He could be like Barry and engineering here. Yeah, you'd
Speaker 1: just be roaming the back room here and you say, Barry,
Speaker 1: I'm where do I hook in this cable? Like, oh here,
Speaker 1: let me show you? Yeah, Paul. And every time we
Speaker 1: have Barry on, we show a video package and the
Speaker 1: football players who get shown year after year after year,
Speaker 1: or guy that poor guy number forty eight with the
Speaker 1: Patriots who got spun around every year, we always show
Speaker 1: and Barry didn't even have any idea who the guy
Speaker 1: wants the Hall of Famer. Barry Sanders joining us on
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Speaker 1: Look at that, just Barry and Engineering joining us on
Speaker 1: the program here. You ever get confused many an engineering? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so, I think so. Okay, it's good to
Speaker 1: see you, though, man, good to see you. Do you
Speaker 1: ever get confused for anybody? Do they think you're somebody
Speaker 1: else on the streets? Um? Yeah, I've been called a
Speaker 1: lot of different folks like who you know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're you're that boxer guy or something like that, a
Speaker 1: boxing okay? Or you know, I've been called Dion Sanders
Speaker 1: better athlete you were Dion. Oh, I mean, if we're
Speaker 1: being honest here, um, I mean he did. He did
Speaker 1: play like two professional sports. Okay, but you could have
Speaker 1: played college bounce cotball. Well, well again, he played two professionals. Okay.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man, better, thank you, man, better better
Speaker 1: football player between me and d I am. I got
Speaker 1: d On on tomorrow. So whatever you say. Wow, yeah, okay, man,
Speaker 1: I that's that's a tough call. Man. Let me let
Speaker 1: me call you back. Come on, I never even Haydon Man,
Speaker 1: he has like several rings? How many rings does he have?
Speaker 1: Got a few? Yes, somebody, you stayed with one team.
Speaker 1: That's why you didn't get any rings. He kept bouncing around.
Speaker 1: You would get it done, man, I didn't get it done.
Speaker 1: You know, that's all it is to it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta give it to the guy with
Speaker 1: the rings. You know, I'm never gonna say I'm better
Speaker 1: than Dion. He was. He was such a phenomenal um
Speaker 1: and I know you know, I mean, obviously he'll he'll
Speaker 1: tell you how great he is. But what about bo
Speaker 1: Jackson between what Beyon and bow between the Oh? Wow, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a tough call. That's as far as
Speaker 1: better athlete. Yeah, oh wow, I would probably say if
Speaker 1: I had to pick one, Um, because there's just two choices,
Speaker 1: right yeah, Bow both yeah? Bo? Absolutely Bow? Would you
Speaker 1: sorry they would you rather be your size or Bow's
Speaker 1: size at running back? Well, growing up I would have
Speaker 1: said absolutely Bow Jackson size. Yeah, yes, give me that
Speaker 1: all day. Yeah, I'll take that. But but you know,
Speaker 1: you would sometimes be able to squat down or be
Speaker 1: behind the line, and then you would they couldn't see
Speaker 1: you Bow, you saw Bo? Yeah, I think you know
Speaker 1: it's nice to be able to, like in Bow's case,
Speaker 1: run over a guy or run around him. Just take
Speaker 1: your pick. Just depends on how you feel that day.
Speaker 1: I mean, did you but you didn't didn't try to
Speaker 1: run over guys, did you? Um? No? I tried to
Speaker 1: avoid that part of Yeah. I tried to avoid that
Speaker 1: part of it. And unless I knew it was a
Speaker 1: small guy guy, I was also wondering. So you see Stafford,
Speaker 1: he gave everything to the Lions, but then they he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, can you help me get out? Like
Speaker 1: did you ever broach the lines and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I just can you can I go to
Speaker 1: another team, and I didn't. Now, I never thought of
Speaker 1: that back then, not really, No, not really. I just
Speaker 1: pretty much hung up the cleats um went on about
Speaker 1: my business. But no, I've never I never had that
Speaker 1: sort of a conversation. And Michael Irvan was talking about
Speaker 1: Tom Brady when you announced your retirement, and he thinks
Speaker 1: that Tom is probably having second thoughts about like you
Speaker 1: go home and then you're like, now what do I do?
Speaker 1: What was it like when you're that first month when
Speaker 1: you retired, Well, I mean it was it was a
Speaker 1: challenge just because there was a lot of just media attention,
Speaker 1: um and uh and so yeah, I mean you know
Speaker 1: I realized that, Uh yeah, I mean those are those
Speaker 1: are kind of difficult days just trying to understand. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know I just retired. You get depressed normally, I
Speaker 1: normally Now I don't. I don't think so, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think I was ready to leave at that time.
Speaker 1: I think I was really ready. But it's certainly with
Speaker 1: an adjustment, I mean, you know, because you realize that, Okay,
Speaker 1: now normally now I'm in training camp. Um. So which actually,
Speaker 1: if I was depressed, you you get over your depression
Speaker 1: real fast. When you get you miss it, you miss
Speaker 1: in training camp. So does Emmett Smith ever thank you
Speaker 1: for not taking his record? Does he ever just say, Barry,
Speaker 1: thank you for not playing longer because you'd be the
Speaker 1: all time leader. I mean he hadn't said it in
Speaker 1: those words, but he should. I don't know. Hey, look, come,
Speaker 1: I love I love hey Emmett. Um he's a good friend.
Speaker 1: You know, I see him all the time. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting because you know, I see him at
Speaker 1: card show and stuff like that, and they're they're like
Speaker 1: all these people that know him, not from football, but
Speaker 1: like from Dancing with the Stars. You know, did you
Speaker 1: did you ever think about being on Dancing with the Stars?
Speaker 1: I never did. No. Did you ask something? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: did ask, Yes, they did. I don't think you have
Speaker 1: any rhythm, do you? I mean it's got to be
Speaker 1: in there somewhere. No. No, no, because you told me
Speaker 1: you never celebrated in the end zone because you didn't
Speaker 1: have the rhythm to celebrate. Were you just something like that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Something like that? Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, but would your dad have been mad at
Speaker 1: you if you did all of those you know, dances,
Speaker 1: and think Michael Urban stuff and after you're scoring a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he would have definitely had something to say
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, he would definitely have something to say
Speaker 1: about different things like that. But also it was just
Speaker 1: you know, my personality, you know. That's that's how I
Speaker 1: played the game. Um. I never really even thought about
Speaker 1: it doing something. Um, you know, and as a running
Speaker 1: back growing up, Um, what more is there to do
Speaker 1: but score a touchdown? You know? It's you know, um,
Speaker 1: so so I never thought about, okay, yeah, what what
Speaker 1: else am I going to do in addition to doing that? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, So I don't know, You're right, I mean
Speaker 1: you did what you're should you be drawing attention? I'm
Speaker 1: paying you to score touchdowns? And then you score a
Speaker 1: touchdown and then you want somebody to notice that you
Speaker 1: score a touchdown? Right what it might paying you for? Well,
Speaker 1: I always thought the job was done. But hey, but
Speaker 1: you know, to teach his own Um, that's how I
Speaker 1: played the game. Um, you know, but I probably probably
Speaker 1: also you can add it there. I just didn't have
Speaker 1: any rhythm as well. So would you rather be a
Speaker 1: running back for the Bengals or the Rams? Would you
Speaker 1: rather be Joe Mixon or Cam Akers. I would I
Speaker 1: would think, man, that's that's a good question. Um, I
Speaker 1: would probably say Bengals. I think I think Joe Mixon's
Speaker 1: probably gonna get you know, he's probably gonna see more action,
Speaker 1: even though Cam Akers has has um done a great
Speaker 1: job and they use him, you know. Um, but but
Speaker 1: you you would think that Joe Mixon is gonna get
Speaker 1: the most action of any running back. Um in this game.
Speaker 1: The backfield too, catching passes and he said, he said, Joel,
Speaker 1: he's been a good pro running back for a lot
Speaker 1: of years. Um, you know so, But yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say Joe. He's Barry Sanders, the Pro Football Hall of
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Speaker 1: rooting for? I'm kind of leaning toward Um Stafford in
Speaker 1: the Rams. I mean, I you know, I love just
Speaker 1: I feel like matt probably has as much to prove
Speaker 1: as anybody um in this game. But don't get a
Speaker 1: partial win. We don't. We don't get one. Like you
Speaker 1: you you should have a Super Bowl parade in Detroit
Speaker 1: if Matthew Stafford win, he might not show up, but
Speaker 1: you can just take a little bit of credit that
Speaker 1: I think. I think there's certainly some Lions fans that
Speaker 1: are absolutely taking some credit, right UM. I know. For me,
Speaker 1: it's just I love seeing a great player just putting
Speaker 1: a great situation to be successful, um, and to see
Speaker 1: everything just fall in place around him. Um. To me,
Speaker 1: that's it's beautiful to see that you know because I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't even list a number of times people will
Speaker 1: come up to me and say, well, you know, and
Speaker 1: when when when Matt was in Detroit, is he the answer?
Speaker 1: You know, Kenny win the big game? So I think
Speaker 1: he answered a lot of those questions this year. The
Speaker 1: Dane's uh I sometimes allow them to ask questions. So PAULI,
Speaker 1: I'll I'll start with you, all right, two part question.
Speaker 1: When you're playing, was there what was the team where
Speaker 1: you go, oh, this is gonna be a fun week.
Speaker 1: This will be a great week for you personally rushing
Speaker 1: And do you ever hear anything during a game when
Speaker 1: you torch somebody twisting them around where you could actually
Speaker 1: hear them say something like they knew they're burned? Well,
Speaker 1: the first part um, the first part, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: was that the team that you knew you were going
Speaker 1: to get a hundred? I think, oh, okay, because because
Speaker 1: I saw it as as sort of a different question
Speaker 1: initially because obviously there's a great lot of great teams
Speaker 1: and defenses. This is the opposite where you just want
Speaker 1: I think I think probably early on maybe just I
Speaker 1: love going to Tampa bay Um out of you know,
Speaker 1: leaving Detroit in December or whatever it is, going down
Speaker 1: um to play there, and they weren't they weren't the best,
Speaker 1: and like you know, mid nineties, early nineties, so so
Speaker 1: I had had a lot of really good games against them.
Speaker 1: Did you ever hurt anybody's feelings on the field where
Speaker 1: you you? Actually? I try my best, absolutely, I try
Speaker 1: my best to I know, but it's it's really not
Speaker 1: in your personality. But you did embarrass a lot of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right right, I mean okay, but no, hey, look when
Speaker 1: you're when you're you know, when you're a big target
Speaker 1: out there, Um, you know, you gotta you gotta do
Speaker 1: what you gotta do to survive. Man, you know, so
Speaker 1: you know how it is. Oh yeah, I do. I
Speaker 1: still I still love that story that uh Barry Switzer
Speaker 1: tells about when Thurman Thomas was at Oklahoma State and
Speaker 1: Barry said to his team, whatever you do, don't hurt
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas because Barry Sanders is backup is better than him.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that story? I love? No, I always
Speaker 1: love hearing that, and I and know there are some
Speaker 1: just great times for me because I love being at
Speaker 1: Okahoma State and just each year I got a little better, um,
Speaker 1: you know, and and I love being Thurman Thomas is
Speaker 1: back up. I mean, uh, you know, I Um, I
Speaker 1: went in there and there were a ton of running
Speaker 1: back from Texas and Oklahoma, you know, and growing up
Speaker 1: in Kansas, like Okay, those are the places where football players,
Speaker 1: you know, where they grow them. Um, you know. So
Speaker 1: so but each year, you know, I got a little faster, stronger, bigger.
Speaker 1: I moved up to the depth chart and you know,
Speaker 1: and and by the time I was a you know,
Speaker 1: sophomore or so, then I was firmly implanted as Thurman's
Speaker 1: back up. And so I left a good impression on
Speaker 1: some folks if they're if they were saying that about me. So, yeah, Todd,
Speaker 1: you got your question for Barry Sanders, I do who
Speaker 1: was the biggest trash chucker? Because you were so elusive,
Speaker 1: someone that really would put a good stick on you
Speaker 1: and had something to say or a mumble it as
Speaker 1: you go by, or went back to the huddle where
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, this guy's got a little too much
Speaker 1: to say. Um, the guy who's a big trash talker.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of guys, but like Charles Haley,
Speaker 1: you know, you just knew he was just like crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, because he's a guy that you know, just
Speaker 1: just non stop talking and threatening you and all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff. And and obviously the guy has four or
Speaker 1: five Super Bowl rings. But wait, how would he threaten
Speaker 1: you like he was gonna kill you? You know, I
Speaker 1: mean something like that? Yeah much, Yeah, something like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean so yeah, So I would say he was
Speaker 1: a big trash talker. Um. You know, there was a
Speaker 1: guy um for Green Bay. He was a linebacker earlier
Speaker 1: in my career, and I can't remember his name, Jamie
Speaker 1: Harris or something like that. Um, he was another guy
Speaker 1: that just non stop talking trash um you know. But
Speaker 1: but Charles Hayley was definitely up there with the best
Speaker 1: of them. Seaton, you have a question for Barry before
Speaker 1: we say goodbye. Yeah, if you didn't go to Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: where would you have gone? Um? If I didn't go
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma State, I would have gone to probably UM,
Speaker 1: either Iowa State or Tulsa. Those those are my three options.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Iowa, and Tulsa UM. And Tulsa was probably
Speaker 1: um asked Clostal where I grew up in Kansas. UM
Speaker 1: you know, they had a decent I mean, they're decent now,
Speaker 1: but they had they had a decent team back then. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, and I probably would have played earlier there.
Speaker 1: And so that was that was one of the that
Speaker 1: was one of the schools that that uh the next
Speaker 1: school probably in line, Oklaoma State. Yeah, I'm gonna guess
Speaker 1: she probably would have played a little sooner than you
Speaker 1: did at Oklahoma State if he went to Tulsa think so.
Speaker 1: I think I think so. You would have been the
Speaker 1: greatest running back in Tulsa. I had to go back
Speaker 1: and look at their like roster and see who was there. Uh.
Speaker 1: Family's great. It's great to see you. Barry Sanders on
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Speaker 1: Thanks for stopping by, Man. Always great to see you Man,
Speaker 1: great for having me. Thank you.