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Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders, a Monday podcast edition alongside

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Speaker 1: from Blockwise, Judy Batista, Ian rapp or Mike Garafollo.

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Speaker 2: I am Tom Pelicero.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to those of us, those of you who

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Speaker 1: have found us on the NFL Channel on fast streaming platforms,

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Speaker 1: first airing after Monday Night Football every Monday. For those

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Speaker 1: of you listening to the podcast, it is a two

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Speaker 1: part episode every Monday. Looks a little different, sounds a

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Speaker 1: little different, but it's us going through everything we just

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Speaker 1: witnessed from the Sunday in this case of week eight

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Station. And let's start out, Ian, Let's

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Speaker 1: beget into some of the injury updates, including a couple

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Cam Scattabow injury was you know,

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Speaker 3: we do a lot of reporting on injuries and specifics

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Speaker 3: and how long guy's going to be out. There have

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Speaker 3: been a couple this season where no specifics have been necessary.

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Speaker 3: That was one with Cam Scattaboy. I mean, anyone watching

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Speaker 3: knew that it was a dislocated ankle. Trying to find

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Speaker 3: the ankle going the wrong way. It was honestly pretty horrific.

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Speaker 3: And you know, any injury is bad, any injury to

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Speaker 3: his starting contributing player is bad, but this one really

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Speaker 3: stung a lot because you felt like how important Cam

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Speaker 3: Skataboo was to the Giant sort of heartbeat. He's out

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Speaker 3: for the season. Emergency surgery yesterday because he had an

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Speaker 3: open wound, which you know, for those who followed Alex

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Speaker 3: surgery went well. Out for the season obviously, but should

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Speaker 3: be back next season if there are no complications. Saquon

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Speaker 3: Barkley also did not finish the game. That was a

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Speaker 3: groin injury, much more minor. My understanding is that had

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Speaker 3: So that means as I, unlike what I said on

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Speaker 3: Good Morning Football today, Saquon is not going to play

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Speaker 3: next week because the Giants the Eagles have a buy

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Speaker 3: so he should play the following week, which is good news. There.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Sertan, the Broncos corner, the reigning Defensive Player of

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Speaker 3: injuries getting an MRI just to determine how serious that is.

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Speaker 3: doesn't seem like a minor injury either, So more information

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Speaker 3: on that as it comes. And then we also had

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Speaker 3: some news on a trade the Los Angeles Rams, who

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure didn't play yesterday because I think they're

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Speaker 3: also on to buy, but I could be wrong about that.

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Speaker 3: Traded for that's right, okay, great traded for Roger McCreary,

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Speaker 3: the versatile corner for the Titans. It is a sixth

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Speaker 3: rounder and mccreer for a fifth rounder that actually originally

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Speaker 3: belonged to the Titans and the Ernest Jones trade that Tom,

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Speaker 3: I think you broke. So the Rams trade for a corner.

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Speaker 3: It has been a really really uncharacteristically quiet trade market

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Speaker 3: today broke that with the McQuary trade going to the Rams,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's all of the news. We had

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Speaker 1: I believe that's nineteen days since the prior NFL trade.

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Speaker 1: It was the Jaguars and brown swapping corners several weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: the late round pickswap involving a player that most people

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Speaker 1: to exceed that as we move forward. Here still eight

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Speaker 1: days out from the NFL trade deadline. Serve that we'll

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Speaker 1: talk more about some of the possibilities as this show

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Speaker 1: where I know Mike and Judy were But let's start

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Speaker 1: out Judy. Maybe the game of the day it was

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Speaker 1: the Packers Steelers I guess night. Technically it was Sunday

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Speaker 4: It was a statement type of second half, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: The Steelers offense I'm talking about didn't play poorly. They

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Speaker 3: That does seem to be the I know it's Mike's

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Speaker 3: It's like, is Jordan Love good? Yeah, Like the answer is.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, go ahead, Mike.

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Speaker 5: Tie the Cowboys and it's like, oh, is this Packer's

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Speaker 5: Important performance for them in a spot where even Jordan

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Speaker 2: To come back as well. I think they sort of

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Speaker 5: Their plan was coming into the game and didn't panic,

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Speaker 5: So all of a sudden have this feeling of like

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Speaker 5: I say, the real season begins. But that's really where

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Speaker 5: it comes down to, all right, where are you fitting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, sorry, just real real quickly. I

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Speaker 3: think we'll all talk about Jordan Lovin. We'll talk about

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Speaker 3: the problems with the Steelers offense, which I don't know

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Speaker 1: While the Steelers fall to four and three, which is

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Speaker 1: Over the Bears, they're now just two games out after

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Speaker 1: But then also the Bengals, as bad as they were

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Speaker 3: Enough to play.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what a week for the New York Jets, Like,

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Speaker 4: emotional week for the Giants and for the Jets, pardon me.

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Speaker 4: And then you know they're going into the buy, so

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The Justin Fields thing is very interesting. It's he has

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Speaker 3: obviously struggled. I have maintained that he is a good quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I really think he is. He's just in this weird

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Speaker 3: It's not weird, I mean it's stabilitating, like it was

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Speaker 2: I'll work backward start there.

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Speaker 5: With the trade deadline, they need to figure out who

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Speaker 5: As far as Justin Fields goes, that's always been the

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Speaker 2: When Mike Tomlin went to Russell Wilson, the.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it would actually be great if Woody Johnson

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Speaker 5: Because I would imagine that it had a negative impact

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Speaker 2: So it was good for one week, good.

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Speaker 5: For Justin Field. I'm always like Justin Field's I think

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Speaker 1: Of course, Jets also got that win on the day

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Speaker 2: It's gonna like you're used to structured things. Now you're

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Speaker 5: And he was always gracious. He was always as informative

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Speaker 5: He never took himself too seriously. He had that robe

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Speaker 5: what he called spa day when he would get a

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Speaker 2: He's he's a great family man. I feel for his family.

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Speaker 2: What do you call the old oh got it a plunge?

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Speaker 3: Plunge, that's the word punge. That makes more sorry.

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Speaker 2: I feel for him. I feel for his family, I

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Speaker 5: I was texting with his one of his agents, Joe Flanagan,

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Speaker 5: It's not like he has his long list of so

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Speaker 5: to them. Nick Mangold gone way too soon.

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Speaker 1: Eagles Giants the rematch yesterday of what is still one

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Speaker 1: you were both there. The impact that had on Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 5: The Giants have been a weird like things are going well,

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Speaker 2: They're two and six. They lose Milik Neighbors, they lose.

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Speaker 5: Camp Scatapou, Jackson Dart's doing all he possibly can. It's

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Speaker 5: just this weird feeling of like, yeah, we're moving in

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Speaker 2: He's coming back again, even without a great record. Usually

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Speaker 5: Have to be talking about a potential playoff team to

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you know that number right

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Speaker 5: I mean they didn't look at that, but it definitely

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Speaker 5: few key calls that probably should not have gone against them,

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Speaker 5: one being that Tousch push that Keevon Thibodeau was upset about.

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Speaker 2: They whistled.

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Speaker 3: You talk about the impossible to officiate. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: the Toush push situation.

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Speaker 4: If that doesn't merit an apology from the league office

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Speaker 1: And what I liked, I like the Brian Dable challenged it,

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Speaker 1: that's when forward progress was stopped. In other words, he's

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Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't stop immediately.

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Speaker 1: There's this slowing pro there's a deceleration process here.

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Speaker 3: At least that's me Judy.

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Speaker 4: From Yeah, I mean it costs the Giant seven points

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Speaker 3: The running game.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean that the Eagles played really well,

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Speaker 4: But okay, but even if that's even if you say

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Speaker 4: for you know, that the Giants could not not slow

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Speaker 5: Lots of thoughts about this game I will try to

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Speaker 5: Camp Scataboo. Hey, how do you make out?

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Speaker 5: I thought that was really cool and shows that you know,

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Speaker 5: The Eagles locker room was definitely joyful and had a

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Speaker 2: Pheeley comes in. That was the conversation in Philly. There

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Speaker 2: were columns of being written about it.

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Speaker 5: It was on sports opera that always had That's a

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Speaker 5: common thing in Philadelphia. There is an element of, well,

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Speaker 5: we didn't have to force feed the ball to somebody

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Speaker 5: them for him to be happy today, so we could

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Speaker 5: run our offense the way we went to I would

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Speaker 5: not say that they're better off without him, but it

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Speaker 5: was a week where they could just kind of just okay,

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Speaker 5: all right, this is how the offense is supposed to run.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's an element of that.

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Speaker 5: Even Saquon said it, and I mentioned this during their

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Speaker 5: mini bye, but Sequon said it like this bye week

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Speaker 5: is good to get away from each other, Like we

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Speaker 5: need to get away and take a break from each other.

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Speaker 5: A little less so than two weeks ago when they

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Speaker 5: played the Giants, but still like they need a breadth.

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Speaker 5: They've been together for a while. Let's get away, come back,

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Speaker 5: start fresh. Part two of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: So the Eagles are.

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Speaker 5: I give them credit for winning the last two weeks

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Speaker 5: because there's been a lot going on down there. Let's

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Speaker 5: see how they come back after the buy and last

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Speaker 5: year during the bye did a great job of self

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Speaker 5: scouting and adjusting their offense. I feel like they needed

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Speaker 5: to still do a little bit of that as well.

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Speaker 3: Didn't they go undefeated after the bye last year they did,

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Speaker 3: so I was I was so interested in this game

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Speaker 3: because you know you and I just talked to Jeffrey Lorie,

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Speaker 3: who really laid out this very detailed, sort of psyche

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Speaker 3: update on the Eagles about how much better they are

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Speaker 3: when there's noise, how they're trained for it, how part

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Speaker 3: of the reason that they have Jalen Hurts is because

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Speaker 3: he plays better when there's all the noise, which they

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Speaker 3: create some of the noise, but so does Philly. Nice job, Mike,

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Speaker 3: And it was all true. I mean it was all true.

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Speaker 3: Like Jalen Hurts has played two of his best games

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Speaker 3: in the last two weeks, when all anyone's done is

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Speaker 3: talk about him and the relationships and all that. What

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in is kind of what you know, what

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in is is kind of what Mike talked about,

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Speaker 3: is like, how does aj Brown come back into this Now?

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Speaker 3: Does he go all right, I saw you guys role

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Speaker 3: and I wasn't playing like I'm just going to be

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Speaker 3: a part of it. Does is he? I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I really don't know, But like there's no other team

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Speaker 3: where we talk talk about like the relationships more than

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Speaker 3: the Eagles, and it only seems like they're going to

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Speaker 3: be there at the end. So my guess is we're

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Speaker 3: gonna be talking about egos relationships a lot, which is

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Speaker 3: kind of fun, but probably not for the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I would say to the extent that the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: looked at as a team that could challenge Eagles in

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Speaker 1: the NFC East. Well, we'll talk more about that in

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Speaker 1: part two because there's plenty to unravel there. Stick around again,

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Speaker 1: two part podcast every single Monday. If you're watching this

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Speaker 1: on the NFL channel, if you are watching it on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: just stick around.

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Speaker 2: We will be right back.

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Speaker 1: We are going to get into Lamar Jackson, what is

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Speaker 1: his status moving for the Ravens, finally getting a big win.

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Speaker 1: We got the Dolphins to I think that other eye

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Speaker 1: is open again, but they lit it up yesterday a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more so, stick around for Mike, he and Judy.

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Speaker 5: I'm Tom.

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Speaker 2: Let's see the