1 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Well, welcome to Stenchfield tonight. 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: I am Bo Davidson filling in for Grants, so thank 3 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: you so much for watching. There's a big night on 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: tap in Alabama as President Donald Trump delivers the commencement 5 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: speech at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa at approximately 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: eight eastern seventh Central. So we will be keeping an 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: eye on Air Force one as the President touches down 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: in Tuscaloosa. Alabama, of course, is about as red of 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: a state as you can get, and he's certainly loved. 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: There by all. 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: We will keep you updated as we get closer to 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: the top of the next hour. And in some big 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: news earlier today that broke National Security Advisor Mike Waltz 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 2: is out along with his deputy Alex Wong in their 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: respective positions. This comes just after the big one hundred 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: day mark for the President and a meeting with his cabinet. 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 2: Now you'll recall that Mike Waltz was at the center 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: of what became known as Signal Gate, which was a 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: private communications thread on the messaging app Signal, which conferred 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: some very sensitive information about military operations against the Houthis, 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: a terrorist group. Waltz admitted fault for this, saying that 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: he did build the group and said it was embarrassing 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: as the threat included the editor in chief of The Atlantic, 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Goldberg. Now, Trump posted on True Social at about 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: two fifteen pm Eastern today that he is nominating Mike 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: Waltz to be Ambassador to the United Nations, a position 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: that was vacant when Elie Stefanic was recalled to come 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: back home to help out in some of the. 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Elections in the interim. 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: Trump says that Marco Rubio will serve as National Security 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: Advisor while also balancing his work as Secretary of State. So, guys, 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: this is some very interesting news with Waltz being ousted 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: as National Security Advisor but being transitioned perhaps to the 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: United Nations. Is that really a firing then, or is 35 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: it a transition or is it a demotion? Perhaps he'd 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: have to have a simple majority in the Senate to 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: get confirmed for. 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: This position at the UN. 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: My guest to speak about this breaking news is Jonathan Gilliam. 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: He's a career. 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: Public servant with over twenty years of service as a 42 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: Navy seal, FBI Special Agent, Federal Air Marshall police officer, 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: and author of sheep no more the art of awareness 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: and attack Survival. Thank you so much for joining me tonight, Jonathan. 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: Good to be with you, my friend. 46 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: Well Jonathan, first of all, did you see this ouster coming? 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 4: Well? 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 5: I didn't see it coming in this way. It's interesting 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 5: how long it took. But I'll tell you you look, 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 5: Mike Walls is cut from the same cloth that I 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 5: was cut from as a seal. He was Special Forces, 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 5: and I think he took ownership pretty quickly, saying that 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 5: all the blame laid with him. And I think it 54 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 5: took this long because they had to look into the 55 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 5: reality of what it was. And just like in the military, 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 5: he got removed from his position regardless of what they say. 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 5: I don't think if that hadn't have happened, he would 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 5: probably still be in that position. But typical of government, 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: I guess it doesn't matter who's in office that people 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: get promoted up. They get promoted either sideways or up. 61 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 5: They never just get fired when they're in an executive 62 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 5: leadership position. 63 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: It's very rare. 64 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 5: And so I hope Mike does really good work over there, 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 5: and I hope that I just hope that he carries 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: on with the potential of a leader that he has 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: and that we have no more of these issues. I mean, 68 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 5: the reality is none of those people should have been 69 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: on that civilian app talking about the things that they 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: were talking about. I don't care how they want. 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: To spin it. That just should not be the case. 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 5: So on one side, I'm really glad that President Trump 73 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 5: took action and showed that if you do something to 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 5: this extent in my administration, you will be removed. 75 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: But on the other hand, it. 76 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 5: Pains me inside when I see people do something that 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 5: they just get promoted or move sideways. So I'm torn 78 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 5: about this in several different ways. 79 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: Jonathan, I'll be honest with you. I am too. 80 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we Waltz admitted that he was responsible for 81 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: putting that group chat together, and I know that. You know, 82 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: sometimes mistakes can be made. A mistake is a mistake. 83 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: But is this one that you would say in your 84 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 2: view that absolutely merits the move that Trump has made. 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: I do well, I think the firing it merits that. 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 5: I don't know what the decision making process was to 87 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 5: promote him to that position. Maybe it's perhaps that he 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 5: trusts him even though and he thinks that Mike made 89 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 5: a mistake, but he still trusts him. But I'll tell 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 5: you this, I've been going scorched on Pete Hexath because 91 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 5: I don't think Pete is that the problems Pete has 92 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 5: is a leftist media issue. I think the leftist media 93 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 5: takes advantage of the things that Pete Hexath does, and 94 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 5: that's why he's talked about so much in the mainstream media. 95 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 5: He didn't just do this issue with Signal, where he 96 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 5: was the main guy putting out things that you can 97 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 5: say it was or wasn't war plans, but was definitely 98 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 5: given specific information about what aircraft and ammunitions and who 99 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 5: was being hit. But he then he did it again. 100 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 5: He did it again with his wife and some other individuals. 101 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 5: It may or may have not been authorized to hear 102 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 5: this information. I don't agree with that. I don't agree 103 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 5: with the way he and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi 104 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: and Christy nom have been flying all over the place 105 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 5: taking selfies and making speeches that in agencies that right 106 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 5: now are riddled with middle management and some upper management 107 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: that is ripe with leftists and people who have caused 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: all these problems. It wasn't, for instance, with DHS, it 109 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 5: wasn't just my orcus, it was these other executives that 110 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: exist within the DHS that allowed the border to turn 111 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 5: into the poorest environment that it is. 112 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: Same thing with the FBI. It's a disaster. 113 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 5: Yet Cash betail goes and posts a picture of him 114 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: running with new cadets that display exactly what DEI gets, 115 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 5: you fat out of shape and all the women pushed 116 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: to the front of the picture running with him, so 117 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 5: that everybody realizes that the FBI is hiring women. That's DEI. 118 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 5: So Cash hasn't changed anything that I can see. He's 119 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 5: moved people to the left or right or up or down, 120 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: fired a few here and there, but no restructuring, no 121 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 5: shutting down operations and figuring out, you know, who these 122 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 5: leftists are, because that is the problem with all of this. 123 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: So it's interesting. It's interesting you mentioned this. 124 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: About Pete Hegseeth because I was going to say, you know, 125 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: I'd ask for some conjecture here, but you know, does 126 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: Waltz have some sort of blackmail on Hegseth to where 127 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: Trump could just outright fire him, you know, why keep 128 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: him in the cabinet. But it sounds to me like 129 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: you're saying that Pete Hegseth is as culpable, if not 130 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: more than Mike Walls. So why is Mike Walts the 131 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: fall guy? If arguably Pete Hegseth has done. 132 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: Worse, I think it's because Mike Walls set that up. 133 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: He set that signal group up. 134 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 5: And when you look at and when you try to 135 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: weigh these things out, having the guy from the Atlantic 136 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 5: on there, who is an avid Trump hater and who 137 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 5: is an avid leftist and a part of this leftist 138 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 5: ideological criminal enterprise, I think that Mike Walls took to 139 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 5: blame and he suffered the consequence. 140 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: I think Pete Hegseth. 141 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: Though, in my mind, in my investig not just my mind, 142 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 5: but my investigation native analysis, I think Pete Hexath and 143 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 5: Cash Pattel are very dangerous for this President's strategy and 144 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 5: for what he's trying to do for this nation and 145 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: save this nation. I think those two individuals in particular 146 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 5: are ones that are very disruptive to President carrying out 147 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 5: those things, whether it's the signal issue with Pete Hexath 148 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: or Pete Hexath coming out yesterday after President Trump had 149 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: made an announcement to Iran, which that's his job Pete 150 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 5: Hexath comes out with his own ex post saying that 151 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 5: he is threatening that putting Iran on notice is though 152 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: he's the president. 153 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: So these are things that are. 154 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 5: Being repeated over and over again, and I think eventually 155 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 5: this could bite the president and his agenda worse than 156 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 5: anything Walltz did. 157 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting how Pete Hegseith kind of discredited 158 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: the outlet when the White House was already saying yeah, 159 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: we admit that this happened. 160 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: That stood out to me. 161 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: But something I'm thinking about too, Jonathan, is especially with 162 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: Mike Walls, he still has to have a simple majority 163 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: to be confirmed as ambassador to the UN. So do 164 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: you think he'd have the votes? I mean, now that 165 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: Republicans have seen this misstep with signal, could Republicans balk 166 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: after this embarrassment? 167 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: Is it possible? 168 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 5: I think they could, But I think he has a 169 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: better chance. And if Pete Hexith, for instance, was fired 170 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 5: and then rehired as ambassador. I think that Mike is 171 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 5: respected by a lot of people in Congress and they 172 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: see what happened as a complete screw up, but they 173 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 5: don't look at him as they screw up. And I 174 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 5: think if he gets confirmed that will be the reason 175 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 5: why he got through. 176 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: But again, this whole thing, right, we're. 177 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 5: Talking about Mike, and we're talking about Pete, and we're 178 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 5: talking about all these different things every day all day 179 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 5: in media. But the reality is this leftist ideological criminal enterprise. 180 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 5: I came up that term because it stands for the 181 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 5: abbreviation for that or the acronym is lice. 182 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 3: We need to comb. 183 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 5: That lice out of this nation and out of all 184 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 5: these government agencies because everything we're talking about, with the 185 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 5: exception of these personal mess ups by these agency leaders, 186 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 5: all the issues that they are dealing with come from 187 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 5: the left. And if they don't concentrate on that, then 188 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight, or anytime 189 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 5: that the leftists are able to get a foothold again, 190 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 5: they will go right back and start crushing everything that 191 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 5: this president has done so masterfully in his first hundred days. 192 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: Now, you have a great point there, Jonathan. Who do 193 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: you think is a good replacement for Mike Wallas's National 194 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: security advisor? What do you think there's any possibility he 195 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 2: brings back General Flynn or who would you like to 196 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: see there? 197 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think General Flynn and I met 198 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 5: him once and he's a fascinating individual. I think that 199 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 5: General Flynn would have been I don't know what his 200 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 5: relationship is with President Trump, but he would be a 201 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 5: great chief of Staff. I think Mike Flynn would be 202 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 5: great Secretary of Defense. He would be a great in 203 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 5: Mike Wallas's position. He's just a great guy and when 204 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,119 Speaker 5: I met him, he impressed me because he said everything 205 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 5: that I feel is wrong and everything that we should 206 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 5: do that is right, and so I like him. But 207 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 5: I'll tell you a name that nobody obscure, name Scott Ulinger. 208 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: That guy would be perfect in this position where Mike 209 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 5: Waal has stepped down. He is a former naval officer, 210 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 5: CIA chief of Station and one of the most well 211 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: read individuals I've ever met in my life, and very intelligent, 212 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 5: and he knows that era you very well. If I 213 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 5: was President Trump or if I had the opportunity to 214 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 5: speak to him, that is the name that I would float. 215 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 5: I fully trust him, and he's an amazing, amazing individual. 216 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: Be a great guest for this show. Well. 217 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: On that note, Jonathan, thank you so much for your 218 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: wisdom and your expertise. 219 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: As always, we appreciate you, sir. You got it. And listen, 220 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: I've got hair in vy. You have great hair well, 221 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: and I got beard envy. 222 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: Man. 223 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: I can't grow one like that and I'm just trying, 224 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: but I appreciate it. 225 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: Thank you, John. We ve each other's hair, just a 226 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: different case. Thanks Jonathan. Well. 227 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: In some other news, we all know that Elon Musk 228 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: will be gradually stepping back from his role as chief 229 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: of the Department of Government Efficiency aka Doche He was 230 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: in President Trump's cabinet meeting yesterday with not one but 231 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: two hats on. 232 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 3: Let's take a look. 233 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 4: I love the doublehead. 234 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, well, miss President. 235 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 7: You know they say I wear a lot of hats, 236 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 7: see it, that's true. 237 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: Even my hat has a hat. 238 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Elon's hat had a hat. 239 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 8: Well. 240 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: Joining me now to discuss Elon Musk's role as a 241 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: leader is Jim Cantrell, the founder of several entrepreneurial startups, 242 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 2: including Phantom Space, Vector strat Space, and Vintage Exotics Competition Engineering. 243 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: He was notably on the founding team of SpaceX and 244 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: served as the first VP of business Development. 245 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Jim, Hi, pleasure to be here. 246 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: It's great to meet you, Jim, take me back to 247 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: the early days of SpaceX and describe what the culture 248 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: was like. 249 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, SpaceX in the early days was pretty 250 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 6: much like any other startup. It was pretty unremarkable in 251 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 6: that sense. You know, I think back to those days 252 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 6: with fondness and you know, not really none of us 253 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 6: realize Elon would become what he is today. But you know, 254 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 6: I will tell you what everybody has seen on the 255 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 6: six o'clock news, you know, with Elon and Trump and 256 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 6: that going on. That's the same Elon we saw twenty 257 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 6: five years ago. You know what what I've said is 258 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 6: I'm waiting for him to call federal employees randomly at 259 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 6: three in the morning, asking them what in the world 260 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 6: they're up to. That was a sort of thing that 261 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 6: happened to us. 262 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's interesting you say that, because I'd like 263 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: if you could to describe Elon's leadership style. 264 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: He always seems meek mannered to me. 265 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: He's mild in that regard, but I imagine he has 266 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: to have high expectations. 267 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: I think he's anything but mild. You know. 268 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 6: He has that soft, sort of British sounding South African accent, 269 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 6: but don't let that fool you. 270 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: The man is ferocious. He's full of energy. 271 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 6: He leads from the front, sometimes too much, and you know, 272 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 6: his style is definitely to get involved in every major 273 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 6: decision in the company, you know, almost to the point 274 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 6: but not quite a sane he micromanages, but he understands 275 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 6: what's being decided on and gets involved, even down to engineering. 276 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 6: So it's SpaceX, you know, he got involve in, you 277 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 6: know a lot of the technical meetings. He borrowed my 278 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 6: college textbooks from you know, aerospace engineering on rockets and 279 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 6: propulsion and things like that, and you know, read up 280 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 6: on them. And the guy wouldn't just you know, say 281 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 6: he read them, but he would really truly absorb it. 282 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 6: A very dynamic person, has a lot of vision, very 283 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 6: intolerant of fools, and works just immense hours, you know, 284 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 6: literally that three o'clock phone call from me was you know, 285 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 6: what are you doing? I said, I'm sleeping. He said, 286 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 6: a lot of work. You need to get here, and 287 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 6: slam goes down the phones. 288 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah you can rest when you're dead. 289 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: And that's what they say, right, It sounds like that's 290 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: what Elon style is. Well, Jim, what's been your reaction 291 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: to the public's resistance to Elon's work at DOGE and 292 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: the violence, especially against Tesla. We see these protests, we 293 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: see them being lit on fire. 294 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: What's what's been your reaction to that? 295 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 6: My personal reactions, it is hysteria and hatred directed at Elon. 296 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's strange for me to have seen. 297 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 6: Him go from you know, the person I knew twenty 298 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 6: five years ago, which relatively unknown to you know, elevated 299 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 6: to a deity status, and now he's considered, you know, 300 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 6: some sort of partner with Satan. 301 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: And I think it's affected Elon too. 302 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 6: You know, I watched him in his public persona and 303 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 6: I would say, you know, that's the one we've always known. 304 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 6: But I'll tell you what, the last six to eight weeks, 305 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 6: with all the vitriol that's coming at him, I think 306 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 6: it's affected him. I don't think he expected that. You know, 307 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 6: maybe he got used to this public adoration, but to 308 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 6: have people attack him so personally he was something I 309 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 6: don't think he ever anticipated, and. 310 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: With such suddenness and viciousness. And they're the. 311 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 6: Same people, you know, that had exalted him to a 312 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 6: deity that have turned around and earned his dealerships to 313 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 6: the ground. 314 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: It's really. 315 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 6: It's a bad indication of where our politics are in 316 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 6: this country today. 317 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have to think that he with little 318 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: X on his shoulders as a father, that that's got 319 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: to be difficult to go through. And I know he 320 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: wants a relationship with his children as well he should. 321 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: That's got to be. 322 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: Tough considering all the hats he's obviously wearing. 323 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: So I know that's difficult. It has to w and 324 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: you're right, it does. 325 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 2: Look like it's affected him because you go from this genius, 326 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: as you described, this visionary into a role where he's 327 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: cutting out government waste and fraud. You would think that 328 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 2: the public would laud him, but instead you see them 329 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: lambasting him. But I want to know, knowing what you 330 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: know about Elon in your time with them, do you 331 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: think there's anybody better suited to take on the role 332 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: of doge than Elon Musk himself. 333 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you. 334 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 6: Go back to two thousand and one when you had 335 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 6: a rocket deal with the Russians that went south, and 336 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 6: then you know, on our way home from Moscow, he 337 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 6: said to me, I think we can build this rocket ourselves. 338 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 6: That was insanity to say that this ragtag group of 339 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 6: people and we were ragtag and this Silicon Valley tech leader, 340 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 6: We're going to build something in only nation States. 341 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: To that point, literally an act of insanity. 342 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 6: So the idea of cutting back waste and fraud in 343 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 6: the federal government is as crazy, maybe more, I think, 344 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 6: And it was it fit his ambition. It fit is 345 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 6: I don't care, I'm going to do it sort of attitude. 346 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 6: So yeah, I think he is the right guy to 347 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 6: do it. I'm surprised he did it, to be honest. 348 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 6: You know, if I were in issues, I think it 349 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 6: would have focused more on other things. But at the 350 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 6: end of the day, Elon's really an idealist, and most 351 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 6: people don't understand that about him. 352 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 4: You know, when he first came to me back in 353 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 4: two thousand and one wanting to do this Mars. 354 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 6: Mission, he wanted to demonstrate that humanity could become multiplanetary. 355 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 6: And you know, if you look at everything he's doing, 356 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 6: it's about setting a human human civilization on Mars. And Tesla, 357 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 6: the boring company x XAI, all these things are aimed 358 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 6: at that, and if you look at it with that filter, 359 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 6: it starts to make sense. In the same way, I 360 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 6: think dose You know, his view probably was the only 361 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 6: thing to get in his way of making a settlement 362 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 6: on Mars was total chaos on Earth before you could 363 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 6: get there. 364 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned this, but I want to go there next. 365 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on SpaceX's ability to go to 366 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: Mars and maybe even colonize it? And that's certainly a 367 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: visionary notion. Is that realistic and how soon do you 368 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: think it could happen? 369 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolutely realistic. 370 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 6: You know, we could have done it after we went 371 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 6: to the Moon with Apollo. The question is how much 372 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 6: money we would have to spend having the government do it. 373 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 6: But what SpaceX has put together technically is without question 374 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 6: capable of sending things to Mars and large numbers of people, 375 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 6: large machines, those are all the things you need. 376 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 4: So if you think about in. 377 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 6: A historical perspective, this is much the same as when 378 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 6: humans from Europe came to the New World five hundred 379 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 6: years ago and they started with colonies. They started with Jamestown, 380 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 6: the Roanoke colony. From there this became a beachhead. And 381 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 6: that's exactly how SpaceX will do it. And as long 382 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 6: as Elon's alive, I think it'll happen if something happens 383 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 6: to Elon, which I think, you know I would hate 384 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 6: to see, But just like Trump, I wouldn't be surprised 385 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 6: if you know people. 386 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 4: People are going to. 387 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 6: Try to kill him, and he used to go around 388 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 6: without security. I remember seeing him in a five guys 389 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 6: burger shop one day. It keep canaveral and I thought, wow, okay, 390 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 6: I wouldn't. 391 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: Do that for him. 392 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: But as long as he's alive, that dream stays alive. 393 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 6: And the money is certainly there because the man can 394 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 6: raise money with impunity. 395 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: Right, People you know would would. 396 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 6: Do anything to be a part of this idea of 397 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 6: creating another civilization on another planet. What what's the time frame? 398 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 6: Every two years we launch. We've got a window. We've 399 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 6: got a window coming up the end of the year. 400 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 6: I think they'll launch some things. They're unmanned. Of course, 401 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 6: I would think it'll be six to eight years before 402 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 6: we see humans going to Mars. But if if things 403 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 6: continue the way they are, they'll have a small colony 404 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 6: there in my lifetime for sure. 405 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: Well that's that's unbelievable to think about. What do you 406 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: think Elon will do next? I mean, we mentioned what 407 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: he's doing with SpaceX. He's going to scale back some 408 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: of his time. It does to focus on testleas said 409 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: that to the shareholders. But he's got this, you know, 410 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: there's the unbelievable vision and palette of companies. What else 411 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: does he have up his sleeve? What would you not 412 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: put it past him to do next? 413 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 6: Well, I do think the one thing that's characteristic of 414 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 6: Elon is that he's very focused. He seems very unfocused 415 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 6: to those who don't understand it. But like I said earlier, 416 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 6: all these things are connected. They're all a part of 417 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 6: going to Mars and settling Mars. And the Boring Company 418 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 6: is a great example where you you know, you think, well, 419 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 6: we're going to you know, boreholes underneath the cities and 420 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 6: drive around on underground freeways. No, you're going to bore 421 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 6: into the side of the hills on Mars. And that's 422 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 6: the most efficient economic way to build a civilization as 423 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 6: underground on Mars for a lot of reasons. So I 424 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 6: don't honestly think you'll see him do anything else other 425 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 6: than to make this vision of reality. Finally, he has 426 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 6: all the pieces in place. 427 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: To do it. 428 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 6: And you know, I could be very wrong, But I 429 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 6: don't see anything missing from that other than figuring out 430 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: how to govern the ungovernable, which he's getting a little 431 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 6: experience there at DOGE, isn't he. 432 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's certainly been what I would consider to 433 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: be an embodiment of the American dream. Well, Jim Cantrell, 434 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: thank you so much for giving us some insight on 435 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: Elon Musk, the man, the businessman, and the visionary. Thank you, 436 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: Jim pleasure. Well, coming up in light of President Trump's 437 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 2: commencement address in Alabama, we get into his appeal to 438 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: younger generations. 439 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: That's up next. 440 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: Stay with us, Welcome back to Stenchfield. Tonight, in less 441 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: than an hour, President Trump will be making a commencement 442 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: address at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, which is 443 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: actually the city where. 444 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 3: My grandmother was born. 445 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: I've spent a good deal of time in TUSCALUSA, hosting 446 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: the Miss USA pageant there, and those who follow college 447 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: athletics will know what a powerhouse Alabama's football team has 448 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: been over the years. They were always a rival to 449 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: my mom and dad's alma mater of Ole Miss, but 450 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: Alabama is certainly a home for winning and as we 451 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: all know Donald Trump loves nothing more than winning. He 452 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: took a commanding sixty four percent of the vote in 453 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: Republican heavy Alabama, and he had a number of big 454 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 2: rallies in. 455 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: The state as well. 456 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: At this event, which is actually a pre commencement event, 457 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: legendary Alabama coach Nick Saban will also be. 458 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: Speaking at this event as well. 459 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: The White House has released no real information on the 460 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: content of this speech tonight, but I have to think 461 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: it will mention the winning culture at Alabama, which now 462 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: even includes their basketball team. And one area where Trump 463 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: made great in roads in his quest for a second 464 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: term was with the youth vote. His son Baron helped 465 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: him pick certain popular podcasts to go on and it 466 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: absolutely had a big effect. Joining me now is Jackson 467 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: Beale's chapter secretary of Turning Point USA at the University 468 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: of Alabama, and Jackson is in line right now waiting 469 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 2: to see the President speak. So Jackson set the scene 470 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: for me in what it's like right now waiting in 471 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: line to see the president at the University of Alabama. 472 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 8: Right now, it's ecstatic. People are lined up. They are 473 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 8: around the back of the baseball stadium, around the back 474 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 8: of the basketball stadium, and so thirty minutes alone to 475 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 8: get in. But I would say my class in general 476 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 8: is just so excited and can't wait. 477 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: So what do you. 478 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: Think Jackson that the President will talk about today? The 479 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: White House didn't really let us in on what he 480 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: might speak about. What do you think he'll say to 481 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: you guys? 482 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 8: So people may know you've never had a city president 483 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 8: kwee student Dave covestment speech here. But what my class 484 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 8: is really hoping for is a message of encouragement and motivation. 485 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: A class that spent high school in COVID. 486 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 8: So yeah, we're really just looking for that message of 487 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 8: a hope, encouragement and motivation. 488 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and you know, Alabama is obviously a culture 489 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 2: of winning, so I might expect that he'll he'll touch 490 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: on some some. 491 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: Elements of winning. 492 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: You know, you might expect Jackson that he would speak 493 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: at a college like West Point. That makes sense, Cadets, 494 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 2: Why do you think he chose the University of Alabama 495 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: to come to. 496 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: That? 497 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 9: Done? 498 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: Something? 499 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 8: I wanted myself into school of excellence, in school of winning, 500 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 8: something we're used to and accustom to, something President. 501 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: For all himself is accustomed to. 502 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 8: All I can say, at the end of the day, 503 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 8: albrit can't hold a candle to this, so we can 504 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 8: always hold that over the. 505 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Jackson's interesting when I when I graduated 506 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: from Northwestern University, they gave us an ambassador who actually 507 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: left her post during nine to eleven. 508 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: So I think you're kind of getting the winning end 509 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: of the deal on. 510 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: This particular commencement speech, mind was not so good. Tell 511 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: me a little bit about the political environment you did 512 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: you did get lucky. Mine not so good, especially with 513 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: all the famous alums that we've had. I don't know 514 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: how we got how we got the short end of 515 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: the stick on that one. But tell me about the 516 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 2: political environment at BAMA. Is it largely conservative? Would you say, 517 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: you know, Alabama is a conservative state? Is that true 518 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: with the university as well well? 519 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 8: As most people assume Alabama is a rather conservative campus university, 520 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 8: you know, in state in general. And I would say 521 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 8: that's how it is from my graduating class, as they hold. 522 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 8: But you know, you're always going to have opposition, You're 523 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 8: always going to have left this ideologies to deal with. 524 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: There's big grumblings of Tucker strikes. 525 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 8: There's people that bought tickets just to walk out for 526 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 8: President Trump's speech. I know Beno O'Rourke and former Senator 527 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 8: Doug Jones. They're holding counter rallies at a in downtown Tuscaluzdo. 528 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 8: So you're always going to have that opposition, but there's 529 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 8: a majority support for President Trump here tonight. 530 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just took the words out of my mouth 531 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: because I wanted to ask you. You know, everybody to Alabama, 532 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: anybody that knows Alabama football, you hear role tide. 533 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 3: Everybody says role type. 534 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: But this opposition movement, this rally that you talked about, 535 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: College Democrats organized it. It's called Hide against Trump, and 536 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: that features as you mentioned, he has been Beto O'Rourke 537 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: and former Alabama former Alabama Senator Doug Jones. Not exactly 538 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: the stellar lineup one would think, is it. 539 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 10: No. 540 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 541 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 8: The two of them put together, I don't think they 542 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 8: can hold a candle to President troll. I also don't 543 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 8: think the crowd that you're a can into what is 544 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 8: like what's going on here at Comac Policy and today 545 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 8: it's everyone's happy, everyone can't away, and. 546 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: We're just excited to see the President's be Jackson. 547 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Donald Trump's son, Baron. 548 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, he certainly had influence on his dad in 549 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: this last election, and he suggested a number of podcasts 550 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: that his dad appear on, from THEO Vaughn to Joe Rogan. 551 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: How influential do you think that that was with your generation? 552 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 8: I would say it's very influential, thinking with a number 553 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 8: of friends of mine, we don't really watch the newsy 554 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 8: munt anymore. Run you two munti podcast, run Instagram, reading 555 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 8: articles on there. So the fact that then and Jadie 556 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 8: vancels well to that they performed the media. I think 557 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 8: that's how they want gen Z voters as although they 558 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 8: really appealed to us as a generation, and I think 559 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 8: that's how we want us over. 560 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that, and I want to I want 561 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: to touch on that too, Jackson. We've seen kind of 562 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: this new look to the press pool that has included influencers, huge, 563 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: huge social media influencers like Tim Poole, former Munford and 564 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: Sons band member Winston Marshallan and other new faces. It 565 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: seems that the media landscape has changed and Trump's team 566 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: is looking into the future, not to the dinosaur media. 567 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: So what do you think is the future of news delivery. 568 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 8: Well, personally, I hope it's not on TikTok, but I 569 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 8: feel like it's Instagram, TikTok, social media. That's the way 570 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 8: news delivery is going. But also podcasts as well, they're 571 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 8: grown in popularity in my generation. I believe that's how 572 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 8: most of us get our news today. And I think 573 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 8: that for politicians to succeed here, they really have to 574 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 8: appeal to jim Z. 575 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, a much much broader audience. 576 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: Well, Jackson, thank you so much for joining me today, 577 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: and good look out there waiting for President Trump. 578 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: I know you'll have good time tonight. Thanks so much. 579 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 9: So. 580 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: We were keeping an eye on President Trump landing in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, 581 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: should be happening shortly, and then he'll make his way 582 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: underway over to the Tuscaloosa campus to deliver this commencement address. 583 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: And as I just talked about with Jackson, you can 584 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: see that the the scene has been set and there 585 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: he is coming out right now of Air Force one 586 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: with his signature fist pump, waving to the crowd and 587 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: landing there in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where he'll be giving that 588 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: commencement address. It sounds like, there's a lot of excitement 589 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: on the ground. There's a lot of young people that 590 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: want to hear him speak. By the way, this is 591 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: quite a contrast to Harvard, to Columbia, to other elite 592 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: universities where you're seeing pro gaza, pro Hamas protest. And earlier, 593 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: as I was talking to Jackson, I mentioned that various 594 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: podcasts that his son Baron recommended that he go on, 595 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: things like Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughan and Nelk Boys. 596 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: These were things that presidents typically don't go on. And 597 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: let's be honest, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris couldn't have 598 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 2: gone on them. 599 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: And when she did go on them, she failed miserably. 600 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: Let's play a clip of Joe Rogan when Trump went 601 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: on his podcast. 602 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 10: The rebels are Republicans now, they're like, you want to 603 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 10: be a rebel, you want to be punk rock, you 604 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 10: want to like buck the system. You're a conservative. Now, 605 00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 10: that's how crazy. And then the liberals are now pro 606 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 10: pro silencing criticism, they're pro censorship online. They're talking about 607 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 10: regulating free speech and they're regulating the First Amendment. It's 608 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 10: bananas to watch. 609 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 11: So they come after their political opponent, Well, do more guys. 610 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 11: I always say you're a kid, but I'm not kidding. 611 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 11: I've been investigated more than Alfonse Copone. He was the 612 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 11: meanest of them all. 613 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: So you see, conservatives are the new rebels, They're the 614 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: new renegades. He's absolutely right about that, and that's why 615 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: he connects with gen Z. Also want to get Senator 616 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: John Fetterman talking about gen Z. 617 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: Let's take a look. 618 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 12: And now it's now whether it's pros or the manosphere 619 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 12: and all these I mean these clearly those are negative 620 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 12: kinds of term. And if you talk down with them, 621 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 12: or you make them part of the problem, or it's 622 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 12: all because of you and your fault, then of course 623 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 12: they're going to find an alternative. And that's what they've 624 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 12: done that And you know, I believe in having a 625 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 12: conversation on anyone that's playing it straight. I think we 626 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 12: should be talking to as many people as possible. 627 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: And it's undeniable. 628 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 12: The Democrats have lost a lot with men and we 629 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 12: I'm not sure where we're able to bring that back 630 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 12: without a long term kind of a strategy. 631 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: I think Vetterman's right. 632 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: I think the Democratic Party became anti man because they 633 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: supported men and women's sports. I think the party became 634 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: anti female for the very same reason. What is a man? 635 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: What is a woman? The lines have blurred and that's 636 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: why they lost him. Here comes Donald Trump speaking true 637 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: to these people and becoming a true alpha male. 638 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, we'll keep an eye. 639 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: Out on President Trump, as you just saw him get 640 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: off Air Force one and he's on his way to 641 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: speak at the University of Alabama. Coming up on the show, 642 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: a Trump appointed judge has halted the President from invoking 643 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: the Alien Enemies Act. 644 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: We get into it next to. 645 00:32:45,640 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: Say, welcome back to Stenchfield tonight. 646 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: I'm Bo Davidson filling in for Grant tonight. 647 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: In a first of its kind ruling, a Trump appointed 648 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: judge in Texas has ruled that the President unlawfully invoked 649 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: the Alien Enemies Act and stopped the deportation of some 650 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: alleged members of a Venezuelan gang. The judge's US District 651 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: Judge Fernando Rodriguez of the Southern District of Texas. He 652 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: wrote that Trump does quote not possess the lawful authority 653 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: under the AEA and based on the proclamation to detain 654 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: Venezuelan aliens transfer them within the United States or remove 655 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: them from the country. The President cannot summarily declare that 656 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: a foreign nation or government has threatened or perpetrated an 657 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: invasion or predatory incursion of the United States, followed by 658 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: the identification of the alien enemies subject to detention or removal. 659 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: Joining me now to break all of this down is 660 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: JJ Carrell. JJ recently retired from the US Border Patrol 661 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: after a twenty four year career as a Deputy Patrol 662 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: agent in charge of the San Diego sector. 663 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: He has authored the. 664 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: Book Invaded, The Intentional Destruction of the American Immigration System. 665 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining me, JJ, and thank you 666 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: for your service and Border Patrol. 667 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 9: You're welcome, Thank you. And what crazy times we're living in. 668 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 9: I believe that we are in a constitutional crisis right now, 669 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 9: and I believe Donald Trump is going to have to 670 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 9: pull in Andrew Jackson and tell the Supreme Court and 671 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 9: the judiciary the go pound sand and if they don't 672 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 9: like it, then try to enforce it against me. And 673 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 9: I believe that's what's left. I think I think we're 674 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 9: about a month or two away from him having to 675 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 9: pull that card and throw it down. 676 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: Are you surprised JJ that this Trump appointed judge ruled 677 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 2: against him regarding the seventeen and ninety eight law. 678 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 9: No, I'm not because the judiciary has usurped power they 679 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 9: don't have, and they think that they can override the 680 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 9: executive branch of our government. It's insane. Some dude in 681 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 9: a black robe has more power than the president of 682 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 9: the United States. 683 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: It's absurd. 684 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 9: The hoops that Donald Trump is having to jump through 685 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 9: are insane. That's why I believe he's going to get 686 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 9: his back push up against the wall and he's going 687 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 9: to have to announce we're in a constitutional crisis. I 688 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 9: need to get these fifty million illegal aliens out of 689 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 9: our country as they're killing, murdering forty American American citizens 690 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 9: every single day, not to include the rapes, the child 691 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 9: sex trafficking, and everything else that these illegal alien savages 692 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 9: have done to our country. We're either going to get 693 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 9: them out of our nation or we are going to 694 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 9: feel pain for years and decades to come. 695 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 696 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 2: It seems that the ruling says that, Okay, we're not 697 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 2: in wartime, so the president can't just say it's wartime 698 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: in order to use the Alien Enemies Act. But if 699 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: he designated trained Aragua as a foreign terrorist organization, then 700 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 2: aren't we at war with them to some degree? 701 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 9: Well, not only that, You're absolutely correct. Stephen Miller came 702 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 9: out and said, look, all the intel agencies have already 703 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 9: come out and said, yes, Maduro emptied his prisons in 704 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 9: jails and sent those savages into our country with civic 705 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 9: orders to cause chaos and destruction. Act as if Venezuela 706 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 9: is our friend. It's like Mexico is our friend, with 707 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 9: the cartels or the MS thirteen is our friend. We 708 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 9: need to wake up and realize the Democrat Party in 709 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 9: the left dspecifically hate America. And I always say this 710 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 9: when I be an interviewed. If you don't like that 711 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 9: conclusion that I have, then tell me what the hell 712 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 9: these people are doing. Why are they siding with MS thirteen. 713 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 9: Why are they citing with all the criminal aliens. Why 714 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 9: are they citing with the illegality of America and not 715 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 9: with the American people and the citizens that are law, 716 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 9: that believe in law and order. And the answer is 717 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 9: comes back. They hate us. They want to fundamentally transform 718 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 9: the most racist nation on planet Earth. Their words, not mine. 719 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: JJ to be honest, This seems to me like a 720 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: victory for illegal immigrants, and to me it raises questions 721 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: about what rights they have. I know that we are 722 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: a country of laws, but after you break the law 723 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: by coming into this country and you are now affiliated 724 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: with a deadly gang that is now a terrorist organization, 725 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: shouldn't that be sufficient to be deported? 726 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 9: Where my course it is no, no, you're right, And 727 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 9: then you bring up something that's rarely, if ever discussed, 728 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 9: because people don't know this. Legal even legal immigrants do 729 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 9: not have the full protection of the Constitution of the 730 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 9: United States of America. Illegal aliens have none except when 731 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 9: they commit a crime, then they get due process like 732 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 9: a regular American would. 733 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 3: Let me give you an example. 734 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 9: If you come in in a student visa, you come 735 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 9: in as a business visa, or you come in as 736 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 9: a legal resident. Do you know that you cannot protest 737 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 9: against the United States of America? Cannot you cannot ask 738 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 9: or demand change within our government? What protection do we 739 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 9: get to do that the First Amendment. Legal and illegal 740 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 9: aliens do not have the protection of the Constitution, as 741 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 9: the left likes to pontificate. And as a barbitual agent, 742 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 9: I don't need arrest warrants to go get you. All 743 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 9: I have to determine is mere suspicion that you're in 744 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 9: legal alien. I go up there and talk to you, 745 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 9: and I determine that you are in legal alien. 746 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 4: You're under arrest, and. 747 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 9: I put you into detention camps. That's it. And then 748 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 9: in camp you wait to see the judge or if 749 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 9: I'm able to arrest you within one hundred miles within 750 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 9: fourteen days, I can do what's called an expedator removal. 751 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 9: I become the judge and jury that is law. 752 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: JJ in your time as a border patrol specialist, because 753 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 2: you did it for a while, give me the reality 754 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: of what happens there. I have to presume that MS 755 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: thirteen and Trandy Aerragua gangs don't come into America peacefully 756 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 2: to assimilate or to contribute to our economy. 757 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 4: Do they. 758 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 9: No, they don't. And I'm not some guy that's been 759 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 9: on TV and I kind of looked at the border 760 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 9: from Afar and some think tank. No, I lived it. 761 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: I did it. 762 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 9: I took down narco smugglers from Senor Lois Cartel. I 763 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 9: fought MS thirteen scumbags in the middle of the Tijana 764 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 9: River Valley. I've been there, done. I know what they 765 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,959 Speaker 9: look like, smell, I know what they taste like from 766 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 9: fighting them and having their sweat and blood in my 767 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 9: face in my mouth. I know who they are, and 768 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 9: they are savages. And any politician that sides with the 769 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 9: savages hate America and hate Americans period. The border right 770 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 9: now is almost one hundred percent closed. And I want 771 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 9: your audience to understand, from the very first day Joe 772 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 9: Biden took office to the very single last day he 773 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 9: took office, five to twenty thousand people cross that border 774 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 9: every single day and was released into the United States 775 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 9: of America. And that is treason. And I'm quoting Donald 776 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 9: Trump when he said that it is treason what they've 777 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 9: done to us. 778 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: JJ. 779 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: Why is the ACL you so giddy over this? Why 780 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 2: do they think it's a civil rights victory? And why 781 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 2: don't they care about the rights of Jocelyn Hungary and 782 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: Rachel Marin. They have rights too, They lost their lives. 783 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, they don't have any rights. They don't in their eyes, 784 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 9: they don't. Look at Van Holland, he travels all the 785 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 9: way to El Salvador to help and have a cocktail 786 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 9: with an MS thirteen, that would carve him up with 787 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 9: a machete and literally eat his heart. They would eat 788 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 9: his heart. But he says nothing about the beautiful young 789 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 9: woman that's a mother of five and her life was 790 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 9: snuffed out by a violent rape, throwing down into a 791 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 9: gully one hundred and fifty feet down the hillside. We 792 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 9: are living in alternative universe. But I also believe we 793 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 9: are in the middle and I don't believe America truly 794 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 9: understands this. We are in the middle of a war 795 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 9: for the soul of the United States of America, because 796 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 9: if we do not engage in this fight, this battle, 797 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 9: of this war with the left, America is forever changed. 798 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, honestly, I think you're a hundred percent right. 799 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: Look at Canada. Look at what just happened in Canada, 800 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 2: a country without borders that allows unfettered immigration, goes down 801 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 2: the tubes and they still elected the liberal government. It 802 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 2: blows your mind. But that's what can happen here. I 803 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: completely agree with you, JJ. If you let that happen here, 804 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 2: your country is done. So you have to have a 805 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: president like Donald Trump who takes seriously and someone like 806 00:40:59,480 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 2: Tom Holman. 807 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: JJ. 808 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 3: We're out of time. 809 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: But thank you so much for your words, my friend, 810 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 2: and thank you for your service on the border. 811 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 4: Thank you. 812 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 3: Have a great night you too. 813 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 2: Coming up, Bill Maher and John Stewart go off on 814 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: President Trump and Kamala Harris returns to the scene. We'll 815 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 2: have a look at that when we come back. Stay 816 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: with us. Welcome back to Stenchfield tonight. I'm Bo Davidson 817 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: filling in for the Great Grant Stenchfield. You may remember 818 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: that Bill Maher attended a dinner with Donald Trump, broker 819 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 2: by the musician Kid Rock, and it was notable for 820 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: a lot of reasons, but most notable for Bill Maher's 821 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: honest recollection of how it unfolded. He said that the 822 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: crazy man that he's been railing against all these years 823 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: was not there, at least not on that particular night. 824 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 2: And surely this had to have been raised some liberals, 825 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 2: but he said he didn't care. He was just wanting 826 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 2: to give you honesty, especially those liberals who got Bill 827 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 2: to be where he is today. That's how he made 828 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 2: such a following. So as we might have expected and anticipated, 829 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 2: he turned around and jabbed Trump in his latest rent 830 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: in a Free Press article. Take a look at this, 831 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: he says in a word show, can't say it on Aaron, 832 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: this is a family show. I said after he won 833 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: the election, I'm not going to pre hate anything, but 834 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: after one hundred days, there are probably one hundred things 835 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 2: to legitimately hate. And he goes on to say this 836 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: in the article, starting with disappearing people, the inefficiency of Doge, Yeah, right, 837 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: ignoring the Supreme Court, killing people overseas with drastic cuts, 838 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: AID cuts, firing the guy in charge of his election 839 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: integrity office because he won't say twenty twenty was rigged, 840 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: Terraff related market collapse, America no longer being seen as 841 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 2: a safe place, the third term, talk suing. 842 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: The media, Andrew Tate. I mean, I could just keep. 843 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: Ongoing interesting, Bill, But don't forget that Bill Maher was 844 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 2: very honest about his time with Trump. 845 00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: Remember this. 846 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 7: He's much more self aware and he lets on in public. 847 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 3: Look, I get it. 848 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 7: It doesn't matter who he is at a private dinner 849 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 7: with a comedian. 850 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 4: It matters who he is on the world stage. 851 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 7: I'm just taking as a positive that this person exists, 852 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 7: because everything I've ever not liked about him was I 853 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 7: swear to God absent at least on this night with 854 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 7: this guy. Bob kid Rock told me the night before, 855 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 7: he said, if you want to get a word in edgewise, 856 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 7: you're gonna have to cut him off. 857 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 4: He'll just go on not at all. 858 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 2: Now, this is all fun material for Mar, but he 859 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,919 Speaker 2: can't honestly think that Trump is a dictator or even 860 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 2: wants to be. What's interesting is that Mar admitted in 861 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 2: that meeting with Trump he saw a different man. He 862 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: saw a sensible, rational guy. So he knows, in his 863 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 2: heart of hearts, Trump is not a dictator. 864 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: Nor does he want to be. 865 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 2: What Mar wants is for Trump's supporters to admit that 866 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: there is some turbulence, and okay, sure there is. That's 867 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 2: going to happen anytime. It's never smooth when you fight 868 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 2: with China. But if he doesn't do it, if Trump 869 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 2: doesn't take China to the man, who's going to do it. 870 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, The chet GPT action 871 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 2: figures have more of a spine than the politicians that 872 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 2: they represent, and Mar wasn't the only one to go 873 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 2: scorched to earth on Trump. Host John Stewart also went 874 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: on a tirad let's have a look at that. Donald 875 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: Trump's ratings are eleven points underwater. 876 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't care. 877 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 7: He's not afraid of being underwater because he's equipped. 878 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: With a flotation unit, protective. 879 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 12: A flotation unit, protective accessory or football. 880 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 3: He's a football. 881 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 2: He went dark for ten minutes. That's a bit odd, 882 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 2: is it not? Why because he was going off on Trump? 883 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 9: I don't know. 884 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 2: Just seems odd to me. So that's another guy that 885 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 2: went off on Trump. But alas everyone, what you've been 886 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: waiting for. Really, Kamala Harris has returned to the scene 887 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,479 Speaker 2: in a very cringe worthy way. Just when you thought 888 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: she was done cackling and laughing and serving up that 889 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 2: good word salad, chef, Kamala came back for more. 890 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 3: Let's have a look. 891 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: You have a special role to play. 892 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 13: Organizing is as important as ever, Mobilizing is as important 893 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 13: as ever. Running for office is as important as ever. 894 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 2: Running for president is as important as ever. Did you 895 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 2: get anything from that? She's still doing the same routine. 896 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 2: Well there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, Kamala Harris, 897 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 2: your former nominee for the President of the United States, Well, 898 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 2: there you have it. 899 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 3: And when we come back. 900 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 2: We'll have a little more of some interesting choice words 901 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 2: from ilan Omar when we come back. 902 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 3: Stay with us. 903 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Stenchfield tonight. 904 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 2: Representative illan Omar has been a divisive figure in certainly 905 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 2: a Gaza and Hamas sympathist, but recently she had some 906 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: choice words for a reporter from the Daily Caller about 907 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 2: visiting El Salvador. 908 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 3: Let's have a look at that, Congress and Omar. I'm 909 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 3: Miles Morrell with the Daily Caller News Foundation. Do you 910 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 3: think more of your. 911 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: Democratic College should be traveling to El Salvador. 912 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 3: To advocate on behalf of a vinego Garcia. 913 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 11: I think you should. 914 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, what Congress should you? 915 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: Why me? 916 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 3: I'm not thinking get any of my questions right now, but. 917 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 8: Here you go. 918 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, thanks, We'll have some news for you. Miss 919 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 2: Omar should go to El Salvador. For everyone out there 920 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 2: that sympathizes with Hamas, MS thirteen trained, the Arragua and 921 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: other areas and groups that hate us, why don't you 922 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 2: just go on a vacation there, try it out, give 923 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: it a shot. When these telemarketers call you and say 924 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 2: you've won a vacation, let's give some R and R 925 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 2: to elan Omar for a vacation for two to l 926 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 2: Salvador and Gaza. It's at that point that I don't 927 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: think she'd be the one telling anyone to f off. 928 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 2: In fact, I think it would be the residence of 929 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 2: that area telling her to f off. You know, women's 930 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: rights are not too championed over there in the Arab world, 931 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 2: nor are they too championed in the ranks of Latin 932 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 2: American gangs. 933 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 3: See, this is the unfortunate barb of free speech. 934 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 2: You can say anything you want, but you better be 935 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 2: careful what you say lest you look like a fool. 936 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 2: And sadly, elan Omer continues to look like a fool. 937 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 2: She's like what Senator John Kennedy said about aoc it's operation. 938 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 3: Let her talk, so let them talk.