WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: I've Seen Better Days

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast, the I've Seen Better Days edition

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<v Speaker 1>as we perform a postgame autopsy on Sunday's twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>to three loss in Baltimore. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays,

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<v Speaker 1>postgame comments from players and coaches, and in depth analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from Dave Lapham. And this week's fund Fact segment is

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<v Speaker 1>with rookie Akeem Davis Gaither as we discuss a wide

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<v Speaker 1>variety of topics, including the Big Chair in his hometown

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<v Speaker 1>of Thomasville, North Carolina. If you would like to see

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest thing since the reunion of Chad Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>and Carson Palmer. Until last week, I had never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of a show put together by NFL Films called The Grind.

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<v Speaker 1>It features behind the scenes access with former NFL stars.

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<v Speaker 1>New episodes appear every Wednesday on the Epics Network Epix,

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<v Speaker 1>which I had also never heard of until last week.

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<v Speaker 1>While on last Wednesday's episode, Chad Johnson traveled to Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out at Carson Palmer's house and it was tremendous.

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<v Speaker 1>They reminisced about their Cincinnati days and then we got

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<v Speaker 1>to listen into their conversation as they watched Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>lead the Bengals to last week's win over Jacksonville. And

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<v Speaker 1>following the game, there was a special two way hookup

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<v Speaker 1>that allowed that nine to eighty five combination talked to

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<v Speaker 1>the current nine to eighty five combo Burrow and t Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have the Epics Network, a few short

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<v Speaker 1>clips have found their way to the Internet. Just search

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<v Speaker 1>for Chad Johnson, Carson Palmer, the Grind. Now let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to Sunday's game. Last year, the Ravens set an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>record by rushing for three thousand, two hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 1>six yards an average of two o six a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson obviously led the way, but he's hardly the

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<v Speaker 1>only running threat, as the Bengals found out on Baltimore's

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<v Speaker 1>second play. Here's an end around for DuVernay, third round

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<v Speaker 1>draft pickrookie runs to the thirty five to forty sideline

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<v Speaker 1>fifty Bengals territory forty, and he'll be shoved out of

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<v Speaker 1>bounds near the Cincinnati thirty yard line. They mark him

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<v Speaker 1>out at the thirty one. That forty two yard end

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<v Speaker 1>around led to a forty six yard justin Tucker field goal,

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<v Speaker 1>giving Baltimore an early three nothing lead. The second time

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore got the ball, the Ravens converted on third and five,

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<v Speaker 1>third and one, third and seven, and third and fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>before facing their fifth third down of the drive, third

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<v Speaker 1>down and goal. From the five shotgun snap, Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>fires into the end zone, caught by Boyle I make

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<v Speaker 1>that Andrews for the Ravens touchdown. It was ten nothing

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens after two drives for each team, and things got worse.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Bengals third possession, third and ten, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>hit their own twenty five yard line. Three receivers left,

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<v Speaker 1>two right, Burrow waiting for the shotgun snap. He has

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, he's in trouble, flings it down field and

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<v Speaker 1>it's intercepted. By Peters at the forty two yard line,

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<v Speaker 1>running back to the thirty five and Tee Higgins tackles

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<v Speaker 1>him at the thirty two. Boys, that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mistake you can't make. Joe Burrows desperation. Heave under duress

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<v Speaker 1>was intended for AJ Green, the only pass thrown his

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<v Speaker 1>way before he spent the second half on the bench

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<v Speaker 1>with a hamstring injury. And it was a strange looking

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<v Speaker 1>play as AJ didn't jump for the ball. Here's Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting right there on the line side of Aja.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not think that he could have made that play.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably didn't even know where the ball was to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut on us with you. Through five games, AJ has

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen catches for one hundred nineteen yards, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>catch all year was for a fifteen yard gain. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have more on that with Dave Lapham in just a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>The Marcus Peters I NT gave the Ravens a short

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<v Speaker 1>field and led to their third score in as many

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<v Speaker 1>drives to make it seventeen nothing. Early second quarter, first

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<v Speaker 1>and goal from the three pistol formation for Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>with mark Ingram behind. Jackson does a three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty degree spin throws into the end zone, caught for

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown by Hollywood Brown. Number fifteen Marquise Hollywood Brown

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<v Speaker 1>had six catches for seventy seven yards and a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Number eighty nine Mark Andrews also had six catches. His

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<v Speaker 1>went for fifty six yards and a touchdown, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were targeted on more than half of Lamar Jackson's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven passes. Here's Jesse Bates. We know where Lamar wants

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<v Speaker 1>to go in a fifteen or eighty nine, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it showed up today as well. That's all I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all he was really gone to today was fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>or eighty nine. With a seventeen point lead in the

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<v Speaker 1>second quarter, Baltimore unleashed its pass rush, hitting Burrow ten

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<v Speaker 1>times and sacking him three times. In the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow has a man on either side as he waits

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<v Speaker 1>for the shotgun snap He's back to throw. Pump fakes. Burrow,

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<v Speaker 1>with plenty of time now, scrambling left and drilled from

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<v Speaker 1>behind by his former college teammate Patrick Queen, who comes

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<v Speaker 1>away with a football man. It was a blindside shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow had no idea Queen was closing in on

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<v Speaker 1>him like he was. And right now, Martindale is smelling

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<v Speaker 1>the blood and he's just bringing linebackers, He's bringing defensive backs,

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<v Speaker 1>he's bringing everybody. He's bringing one more than the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>can block. Martindale as Baltimore's defensive coordinator, Don Wink, Martindale,

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<v Speaker 1>whose blitz happy approach was too much for Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bengals offensive line. He had a good plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just st in next to get our plan

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<v Speaker 1>very well. I didn't played very well and we as

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<v Speaker 1>an offense didn't play very well. So he's gotta get fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>What can you do better? I mean it does it

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<v Speaker 1>matter a matter of everybody getting on the same page

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<v Speaker 1>against those blitz looks or what is it? Well? Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I can get the ball out of my hands faster

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<v Speaker 1>I can. Um. You know, I wasn't very accurate today,

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<v Speaker 1>which was disappointing to me. You know, I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>had a great week of practice and it just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>carry over. You talked about getting rid of it quicker,

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<v Speaker 1>but what were they doing things to take maybe your

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<v Speaker 1>hot reads away where you couldn't do that at times?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they do a good job of popping guys

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<v Speaker 1>out into the middle to take away those middle throws

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<v Speaker 1>and bringing guys that you don't have account for, and

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<v Speaker 1>not bringing the guys you do have account accounting for.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had a good plan. You know, they're a

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<v Speaker 1>good defense, a really good team. While the Bengals offense

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<v Speaker 1>struggled all day, their defense was outstanding for the final

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<v Speaker 1>three quarters, holding the Ravens to just one field goal

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<v Speaker 1>on Baltimore's final eight drives, not including a kneel down

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<v Speaker 1>in the final play of the game. Jackson finished with

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<v Speaker 1>just three yards rushing and one hundred eighty yards passing,

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<v Speaker 1>with a past A rating of seventy one point nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Third down and ten. At the Cincinnati twenty seven Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson short pass, it's intercepted, It's picked off by Logan

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson at the twenty four yard line, the Rookies second

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<v Speaker 1>NFL pick, and the Bengals takeover with one thirteen left

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<v Speaker 1>in the half. Here are Jesse Bates and Tyler Boyd.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we did a good job defensively, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you play it against really good teams like this, the

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<v Speaker 1>room for air is just really small. Um, you just

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<v Speaker 1>can't you know, I don't I don't care how you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our office isn't playing up to our standard, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care how bad that is. We just have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it close. The defense played a heck of a game,

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<v Speaker 1>and for us on the other side, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't wasn't too pretty. And that's what really hurts me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because we put the time and we put

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<v Speaker 1>so much time in and repetition to this man. It

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't work for us. And it was a rude

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<v Speaker 1>awakening for Burrow. After throwing for at least three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards in each of his previous three games, Joe was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen for thirty for one hundred eighty three yards, with

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<v Speaker 1>no touchdowns, one interception, two fumbles, and a passer rating

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<v Speaker 1>of sixty six point four. Shotgun snap Burrow in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>again and sacked again, this time by Humphrey cornerback coming

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<v Speaker 1>from the edge back at the thirty five yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit number fifteen, sack number seven. Burrow has been sacked

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two times already. That's number one in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>three more than Carson Wentz. So how is Joe dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with it? You just deal with it and come back

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<v Speaker 1>in fight every play like like I have been. Burrow's

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<v Speaker 1>former LSU teammate Patrick Queen scored a defensive touchdown in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter, scooping up a Mike Thomas fumble that

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<v Speaker 1>was punched out by Marlon Humphrey his specialty, with Queen

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<v Speaker 1>running fifty three yards to the house to make it

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven nothing. The Bengals hadn't been shut out in

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one games since who else Baltimore blanked them in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty seventeen season opener. This time, Cincinnati avoided the

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<v Speaker 1>good this egg with less than a minute to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Bullock twelve or thirteen so far this year. Harris

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<v Speaker 1>snaps to Huber, here's the swing of the leg and

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<v Speaker 1>the kick is good. So the Bengals avoid the shot

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<v Speaker 1>out and they trailed twenty seven to three with thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two seconds to go. That was the final, twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>to three. Taylor and Burrow some up a sobering day.

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<v Speaker 1>We know where the issues were. We knew we had

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fishing on first second down, and we

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<v Speaker 1>had three charnovers minus yardage plays, which in some cases

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<v Speaker 1>can be really avoidable. And when you do that against

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Rags, they're gonna make you pay for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna feel like that. You know, we're building

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<v Speaker 1>a culture here, We're moving in the right direction. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it wasn't great, but now we're gonna look back

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<v Speaker 1>on this team in a few years and say, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that kind of propelled us forward. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna keep working hard. We got great people within

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<v Speaker 1>the organization on the team and a great coaching stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know we're gonna keep working hard, keeping coming

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<v Speaker 1>to work every day to twin games. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>resilient team. It's a very connected team. It's unfortunate that

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<v Speaker 1>we put this performance on the field, playing and coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, we're not gonna hit the panic button. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna regroup and do itis for the Coals. It's off

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<v Speaker 1>to Indie next Sunday for the bengals fourth road game

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<v Speaker 1>in their first six. The Colts are three and two

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<v Speaker 1>after losing to Cleveland thirty two twenty three. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>how things look in the AFC North. The Steelers are

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<v Speaker 1>four and zero, the Ravens and Browns are four and one,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals are one three and one, the best

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<v Speaker 1>division in football so far, The Bengals Booth podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with

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<v Speaker 1>a hint of fruit flavor. Now, let's get some postgame

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<v Speaker 1>analysis from my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. All Right, final

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<v Speaker 1>score twenty seven to three. It actually felt more lopsided

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<v Speaker 1>than that, and that's pretty lopsided. The Bengals could not

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<v Speaker 1>protect Joe Burrow, similar to the Philadelphia game a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, even though though that one ended in

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<v Speaker 1>a tie fifteen hits the Ravens seven quarterback sacks. Through

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<v Speaker 1>five games, Joe Burrow has been hit fifty times. According

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<v Speaker 1>to official NFL stats, he's been sacked twenty two. That

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<v Speaker 1>would project to one hundred and sixty hits and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>point four sacks. The NFL single season record for a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is seventy six, when David Carr was the number

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<v Speaker 1>one overall picking a rookie. And that's uh, David Carr's

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<v Speaker 1>career didn't last very long, and you don't want that

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<v Speaker 1>to be the case for Joe Burrow. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>mental part of it, the confidence part of it, everything

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<v Speaker 1>that goes along with it. It's just you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>start taking these blindside shots and it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you start to lose confidence and what's happening around you.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's human nature. I don't care who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, would how would you like it if you're

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<v Speaker 1>standing in depotet or you're running, you're running a ten

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<v Speaker 1>yards sideline to sideline in the field and somebody just

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<v Speaker 1>hits you with something in your back and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when it's going to happen. You don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen, but it's going to happen at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. That's kind of what it feels like. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's not a pleasant scenario. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to start doing things to protect him. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>should start thinking about protect himself a little bit better too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know at times and and uh, there's that balancing

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<v Speaker 1>act between when do I extend and create as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to just live for another play and don't try to

0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.560
<v Speaker 1>make too much out of something out of nothing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something that's not there. So it's it's it's a learning

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<v Speaker 1>process I think for all involved. Bottom line is everybody

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<v Speaker 1>just has to get better though, because you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you this Ravens defense. Once there was blood in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about sharks that are frenzied. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was like everybody was begging. I mean they were going

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<v Speaker 1>up and they were begging Martindale, bring me, blitz me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me have a piece of this action. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, they put seven or eight

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<v Speaker 1>guys up to the line of scrimmage. You don't know

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<v Speaker 1>which ones are coming, so you call a protection to

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<v Speaker 1>what you think might protect a certain look, and they

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<v Speaker 1>do something totally different. They bring the guys that you

0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.640
<v Speaker 1>haven't accounted for, and the guys you have accounted for

0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.679
<v Speaker 1>drop off into coverage. And that's what's so tough about them.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they get a lead, they do it over

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<v Speaker 1>and over and over. When it's third and six or

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<v Speaker 1>seven or more, They're gonna do it until you can

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<v Speaker 1>until you beat it. If you beat it with some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blitz breaker, you know, some sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>blitz beat or blitz breaker, at some point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he may reconsider we talked about before the

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<v Speaker 1>game in the Thursday night game, Andy Dalton and AJ

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<v Speaker 1>Green personally with pre snapper Reeds and cited just and

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<v Speaker 1>all that beat the blitz and Martin deal stopped blitzing

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<v Speaker 1>for quarter and a half. Totally uncharacteristic. But this one man,

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<v Speaker 1>once he get up seventeen nothing and started, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>testing the waters, he found them to be delightful. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure that an assistant coach has ever been on

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<v Speaker 1>a TV screen more than Don Wing Martindale was during

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<v Speaker 1>the course of that game. By the way, he is

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<v Speaker 1>not related to Winston Martindale. Member of the American TV

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<v Speaker 1>Game Show Hall of Fame. There is such a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what really helped this wink Martindale. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>faced third and ten twice, third and eleven twice, third

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty one, third and twenty four, third and twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not gonna work against the Baltimore Ravens, third

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty one, third and twenty four, third and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five penalties. You're self destructing, You're staying to the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not only gonna let you blitz us'na, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say it's we have a quarter of the football field

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<v Speaker 1>to cover if we just to get back to the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. So you're stupid if you don't blitz

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<v Speaker 1>us I mean it's like, oh, man, I don't care

0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.960
<v Speaker 1>who you're playing against. If you're third and twenty plus,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a no win situation against the Ravens, you might

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<v Speaker 1>as well just take a knife and slit yourself. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's suicidal and you can't be in those situations.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to be in third and seven or more,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind third and twenty or more. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, Wink Martindale is saying, well, I know

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween's not to the end of the month, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna it's like taking candy from a baby. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go make my candy right now. I'm gonna get after

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals and blitz them to death if they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help like that until this football team, this football team

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<v Speaker 1>is nowhere near good enough to help the opponent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's absolutely it's nonsensical to think that they can

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<v Speaker 1>put themselves in situations like that. Nonsensical. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is the original Wink Martindale up there on a level

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<v Speaker 1>with Bob Barker and Alex Trebek on the All Time

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<v Speaker 1>Game Show host or is he on that next here

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<v Speaker 1>with Pat Say Tech, Bob Eubanks and others. I got

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<v Speaker 1>them on level two max Max Max. Alex Trebek still,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, battling cancer in his eighties, still getting it done,

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<v Speaker 1>my hero Barker and Trebek. That is that is a

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<v Speaker 1>level above all. Right, let's talk about the defense. His

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<v Speaker 1>performance obviously didn't start great. Ravens scored on their first

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<v Speaker 1>three drives. That that second drive that went for a

0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.440
<v Speaker 1>touchdown third down as a killer. They converted five times

0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.240
<v Speaker 1>on third down, including third and fourteen. But after the

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<v Speaker 1>first three drives of the game, three points for the

0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Ravens offense on their last eight drives. That's getting it done.

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<v Speaker 1>It is getting it done. And Luanna roumoin company take

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<v Speaker 1>a bow. You know, they spied the quarterback with at

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<v Speaker 1>various levels, with guys that can tackle them, you know,

0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.680
<v Speaker 1>spy with the linebacker they can run. Logan Wilson. Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of in some blitz packages, was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like spying on his own. He would delay the blitz

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<v Speaker 1>and and just really give Lamar Jackson a lot of problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Took away the outside running game, and when he tried

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<v Speaker 1>to extend plays in the passing game, there was somebody

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<v Speaker 1>all over him. I mean, they had a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a game plan. They really did. To think that Lamar Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>the leading rusher on the football team, ended the game

0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:56.880
<v Speaker 1>with three yards rushing, where it was like fifth or

0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.800
<v Speaker 1>sixth leading rusher on the football team. Speaks volumes. I mean,

0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.359
<v Speaker 1>they took away a massive part of the Baltimore Ravens

0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:09.520
<v Speaker 1>offensive productivity, Lamar Jackson's legs, and they made him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have to throw the football. And you know, my thought was,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he has to throw twenty five times more.

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<v Speaker 1>He basically did that in the first half. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was close to twenty five to finish with thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven throws. Yeah, that's that's that's perfect, that's right in

0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And they gave up twenty points. I mean one of

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<v Speaker 1>the last touchdown was an unscripted score against the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>offense when Humphrey punched it out and Patrick Queen picked

0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.399
<v Speaker 1>it up and ran to the house with it. That

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with the defensive football team. So

0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:37.080
<v Speaker 1>they played winning football. You hold the Baltimore Ravens to

0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.439
<v Speaker 1>twenty points in Baltimore, that's winning football. The problem is

0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to give up seventeen on the first three drives that

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<v Speaker 1>made life easier for Don Wink Martindale and made to

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<v Speaker 1>make the decisions that he made to make it harder

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<v Speaker 1>on the offense to try to generate anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't let them jump out to that kind of lead.

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<v Speaker 1>If if they get a lead, it can't be a

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<v Speaker 1>three score lead in a quarter. Literally, they were up

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen points six seconds into the second quarter. That's brutal, brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, the only the only negative, the only

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<v Speaker 1>knock on the defense would be that that allowed them

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<v Speaker 1>to cumulate that kind of lead, you know, early in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. But again, the offense didn't know anything to

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<v Speaker 1>you to help their own situation. They didn't score, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they didn't score till in the last minute

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<v Speaker 1>of the football the last few seconds of the football game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. It was a tough, tough day, a tough

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<v Speaker 1>day at the office for everybody involved on the offensive

0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.359
<v Speaker 1>side of things for the Bengals. So we had our

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<v Speaker 1>first mini controversy of the season on Thursday when Carlos

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<v Speaker 1>Dunlap complained to reporters about his removal from the starting

0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.480
<v Speaker 1>lineup although he played reasonably well today. And now we've

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<v Speaker 1>got this postgame controversy that has sprung up regarding AJ Green.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it while we were broadcasting the game,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a clip on the internet where he appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be saying, just trade me. According to lip readers,

0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it dangerous to try to do that. Who knows if

0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that's really what he was saying. Aj was only targeted once.

0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.440
<v Speaker 1>That was an interception where he never saw the throw.

0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Then he reaggravated the hamstringer or maybe it's the other

0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.400
<v Speaker 1>leg I don't know, but he sat out the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. I hate to see this with Aj Green,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the epitome of class. Nothing that would anything

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<v Speaker 1>negative about his tenure with the Bengals. But if he

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<v Speaker 1>did say just trade me, I'm not sure what he

0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.520
<v Speaker 1>would be upset about. Where the Bengals are concerned. They're

0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.920
<v Speaker 1>they're paying him, obviously on the franchise tag. They're playing him,

0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.399
<v Speaker 1>paying him and playing him, and so far he just

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<v Speaker 1>has not been able to get open and consistently catch

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. Yeah. I mean, they're paying him almost eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>million bucks for the season. It's a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take that work. Not Dougal Hunt, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean frustration we saw it boil over with Carlos Dunlap.

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Now it's boiling over with aj Green. Everybody's frustrated, though,

0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.160
<v Speaker 1>And I know those guys experienced the five straight playoff games,

0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 1>five straight playoff seasons, I should say, and you you,

0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, the bar gets set at a certain height

0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, the team starts to struggle.

0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.479
<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, for as good as it was

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.520
<v Speaker 1>in the record setting five straight seasons going to the postseason,

0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>it's been record setting in the opposite direction here in

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.200
<v Speaker 1>this phase a bit. So you know, that's when frustration

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:29.400
<v Speaker 1>bill's over. And my thing is, it's easy to play

0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and be happy and satisfied when you win in football games.

0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.199
<v Speaker 1>The true test is when you're in the situation that

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<v Speaker 1>you're in right now and you're still getting paid. You're

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.960
<v Speaker 1>getting paid to perform, you're getting paid to give, you know,

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.680
<v Speaker 1>put your best foot forward and give everything you've got,

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, to the organization for the for the betterment

0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of the entire organization. So I understand it's tough. Been there.

0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I was on four and twelve football teams. I was

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 1>on twelve and four football teams. I understand, and I

0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.680
<v Speaker 1>know it's it's night and day, it's North and South Pole.

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:04.239
<v Speaker 1>But believe me, I mean you got to. You have

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to pride yourself from the fact that, no matter what,

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you were giving full effort, in giving everything you possibly

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 1>could from a contribution standpoint to help turn it around

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.240
<v Speaker 1>when it was poor and to sustain a level of

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.920
<v Speaker 1>excellence when it was good. That's what you're getting paid

0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to do. Right now. Unfortunately, these two teams are not close.

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore had the best record in the NFL during the

0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:30.439
<v Speaker 1>regular season last year fourteen and two. They had twelve

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowlers. A year ago, they lost one when they

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 1>let Earl Thomas go. They traded for Calais Campbell, who's

0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.199
<v Speaker 1>a five time Pro Bowler. They drafted Patrick Queen in

0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the first round. He was excellent today. They drafted JK.

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Dobbins in the second round. Any Ohio State fan knows

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:48.160
<v Speaker 1>what he's capable of doing. This is an exceptionally good

0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore team that you know, last two meetings or seventy

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.199
<v Speaker 1>six to sixteen, I don't think it's that lop sided.

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.639
<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately the Bengals have a long way to go

0:21:57.680 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to catch up to the Ravens. Right now yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you you end up saying, all right, you

0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 1>beat the Jacksonville Jaguars, And in my mind, you know,

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that was in my mind the big test because they

0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:10.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a dozen Pro Bowlers, you know, they had one,

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and the Chargers had multiple Pro Bowls in the defensive line.

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:15.879
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland had a Pro Bowl in the defensive line. Philadelphia

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 1>had multiple Pro Bowls in the defensive line. Jacksonville had one.

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:23.439
<v Speaker 1>But you know one time first Pro Bowl, Baltimore's got

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>multiple Pro Bowlers and Baltimore at Indianapolis, Cleveland, Tennessee at

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:31.919
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh fifteen and three. Now it's sixteen and three and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe better depending on how these other games pan out.

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.480
<v Speaker 1>So you're looking at you know, after that stretch, you

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<v Speaker 1>got the Redskins at Washington, the Giants at Miami, Dallas.

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean those those uh, those four teams right there

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.439
<v Speaker 1>are the reverse. You know they're all struggling, but you

0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 1>know it's like you have to put yourself in a

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 1>position these these teams, Like you said, Dan, the difference,

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the differential between where where the Ravens are and where

0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:01.199
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are. If you if you don't play to

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>your highest level, you're gonna get embarrassed. And the Bengals

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.639
<v Speaker 1>played C minus football maybe I don't know, better than

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>C minus because the defense I think was much better.

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Special teams were solid. The phase that let them down

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.959
<v Speaker 1>obviously was the offense and let them down dramatically. They

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.320
<v Speaker 1>had a failing grade. So it brings everybody down. But

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:22.880
<v Speaker 1>say it's C and if the Ravens who offensively didn't play,

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, as well as they've been playing, but their

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>defense was lights out. If they if they play you know,

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 1>B plus or better, you're gonna see this kind of thing.

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>So you have to try to get You have to

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 1>try to perform at the highest level you possibly can,

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 1>up to your capabilities, and if you don't, this is

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen. I mean right now, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to build toward getting closer to these upper echelon teams.

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<v Speaker 1>When you don't play at you at a good level,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be embarrassed by these upper echelon teams.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Just to wrap it up, to reconfirm you

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<v Speaker 1>have eighty six year old Winston Wink Martindale, the famed

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<v Speaker 1>game show host of Tick Tecto High Rollers and other

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<v Speaker 1>shows ranked as a second tier all time game show

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<v Speaker 1>host a notch below Barker and Trebec Trebec and Barker

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Barker's my man. And they say, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>Barker he had some beautiful women by his side. Barker's

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<v Speaker 1>beauties at all times. Yeah, Barker's beauties. And there was

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a reason for Barker's beauties. Barker was the man. There

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>was brutal injury news in the game as DJ Reader

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<v Speaker 1>was taken off the field on a cart and according

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 1>to the NFL Networks Mike Garafolo, it's a quadricep's injury

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that's expected to keep Reader out for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, pending further tests. Let's finish this edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast with something more cheerful. It's this week's fun

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<v Speaker 1>Facts segment, where you get to know the person under

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<v Speaker 1>the pads. Time for some fun facts or linebacker Akeem

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<v Speaker 1>Davis gather from Thomasville, North Carolina, known as the Chair

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<v Speaker 1>City because of the furniture industry in that area and

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<v Speaker 1>Thomasville's most famous landmark. From what I understand, the chairs

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<v Speaker 1>a big chair. Tell us about the big chair? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this really like a huge chair like a statue in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the town. People can't say pustures on it.

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I think in Dannity Center if they still do that,

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>they put like a big old sent a class up there.

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:30.199
<v Speaker 1>It's benefit. It's a chair that's thirty feet tall and

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>ten feet wide. Somewhere in the family archives there's your

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>picture of you in front of the big chair, part

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>of pro before the prom. Yeah, people meet up there

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>take pictures because they got like a found right next

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>to it. I love it. Sounds like a great picture.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing fun facts or the King. Davis Gaither tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about growing up there and what

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<v Speaker 1>you like to do as a kid. It's really like

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<v Speaker 1>a small town. Probably every other person probably my cousin

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<v Speaker 1>of some sort, so everybody knows everybody. My friends I

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<v Speaker 1>grew I still taking them today. Uh. We used to

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<v Speaker 1>do like adventurous stuff, playing outside, run through the woods. Um,

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>we used to do something stupid, played tackle football on

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the street, which is crazy in high school with Kenya

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<v Speaker 1>Letard and football, basketball, baseball and tracked and sports always

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 1>come easily to you. My family just known for sports,

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know if it can't easily, but my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was always a coach. My brother says the basketball

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<v Speaker 1>basketball player, so everybody wanted to be the best in

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the house, so it was always striving for that. You

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<v Speaker 1>played high school football for a coach named Allen Brown

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>who was coached at that high school for three decades

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<v Speaker 1>more than three wins. You and your dad, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>was it like to play for a high school coaching legend.

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty awesome knowing that, especially knowing that they

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>coach my dad, so knowing that they had history there.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually got a picture my dad was telling him about

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<v Speaker 1>to play, and I got the same type of picture

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing. Put it together. It was kind

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>of funny, but it was definitely good playing for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I kind of really messed up because either

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>him or the hole tel to let my dad no sense.

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>My dad was coaching at Ball State in Muncie, Indiana,

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<v Speaker 1>so everybody always pickled the phone and let my dad

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<v Speaker 1>know how bad I was doing. Early on. Well, I

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>hope they let him know how well you were doing

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 1>when things got better. Yeah, they probably didn't. We're doing

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<v Speaker 1>fund Factor The King David Skither. When you finished high school,

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you were one hundred and seventy pounds not the ideal

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>size for a college linebacker. How did that impact recruiting?

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Teams wanted Like, I know, my junior Duke wanted me

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to be one eighty five, and they gave me to

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>put them in like a little time scale to get that.

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, my dad wasn't there. My mom she

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>wear two jobs, so I really didn't know nothing about nutrition.

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>So I was eating bad food and really went paying

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>too much attention about my eating habits so that that

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen. But they came in. They want to speed,

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<v Speaker 1>and it took. It took a chance on Appalachian States,

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty five minutes from where you grew up. You

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>had a tremendous career there. The team won a bowl

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>game every year you were there. What was the best

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<v Speaker 1>part of your college experience really just learning and growing

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>as a as a man and as an individual. I

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>became a father there at the second, second, third year,

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>so that was huge. And this Ben Rondo's guess and

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:34.479
<v Speaker 1>winning spirit. The most famous win in Appalachian State history

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>was the upset over Michigan back in two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>But you played a key role in an upset that

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<v Speaker 1>was almost as big your senior year against North Carolina,

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the big school in the state. You had an interception,

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you blocked the game tying field goal attempt on the

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>final play of the game. What stands out about that day?

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>We want to call it upset because we felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it was the business state we always filled that way.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the chip we carry on a show this um.

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>But that definitely huge win. This. It was my birthday

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that day too, so I definitely wanted to be a

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>big game h We wanted to win that game. We

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>went in knowing that we would win that game. So

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the whole game was this pretty It was good.

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Then I came in your senior year at app State.

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<v Speaker 1>You suffered a stress fracture in your foot in week three.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor told you you could snap it if you kept playing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what you did, even though you had an

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>NFL future. Why did you chose to choose to keep playing?

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>This has been out there. I know my gods was

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>depending on me. You had two freshman players UM behind

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>me that when one maybe one as ready to play,

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>so the team was counting on me. I know, possibly

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>could be my last time playing football if then the

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>field didn't work out, So I just wanted to give

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>him my own then if it if it was a breakdown,

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll be done. But I wanted to go all out

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and give him all to that team. We've mentioned your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a college football coach, currently the wide receivers coach

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>at Army. What are some of the most importan lessons

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>he gave you when it comes to football? Gave me

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a bunch. You'd probably called me at the every press

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<v Speaker 1>of the game before I even get to get in

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the locker room. So he's always I called him coach

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>that that's that's the name of my phone. He's half coach,

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>half the it definitely always coaching me. But really the

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing he always try to implement my head is

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<v Speaker 1>this be better than what you were yesterday. I try

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>to start to do that. You were named the sun

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Belt Defensive Player of the Year your final year at

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Appalachian State. Previous winners of that award include the Great

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Ware. What did the honor mean and what kind

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of trophy or plaque do you get for being the

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>sun Belt Defensive Player of the Year. I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>lot this knowing how I started there, coming in off

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of Andrew when I got the red shirted, didn't play

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>as much my first two and a half season, really

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>was the best teams guy, and this kept finding my position.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Coach kept believing in me, pushing pushing me to be

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>better each day, and it's working my tail off to

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<v Speaker 1>actually contribute more to my team and getting the start

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a role in this keep elevating each year. So that

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>was definitely a huge war for my family. That's knowing

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't easy for me. This went't handed to me.

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I had to work for and then it was good

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>for my team, UM and the young guys that's coming

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>in behind me knowing that the standard is set and

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>now as day job, keep the standard and uplifted UM play.

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>We get it. It's like a glass plot. It's pretty

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty sweet. I read that you started a cleaning

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>business in college. Is that true? And if so, described, Yeah,

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>we started that's that's summer going into my senior year,

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Me and a guy on a football team and my

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>daughter's mom. We all started that h that summer or

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>really that spring, and they really took off that summer

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>going into going into camp out there really some workers

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 1>so she wouldn't be dog tight. We had about three

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>or four workers, but they got pretty pretty busy. Where

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>did you clean offices, houses, whatever? Really? Everything we did

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the office, Airbnb's apartment turn around really not but students

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>out there. So during the summers, I mean everybody's moving out,

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>so we cleaned those. We did pressure Washington really in

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>things you think of, we did all types of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>A few more fun facts for the King, David Skather,

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<v Speaker 1>As you mentioned, you're a proud dad. Your daughter is

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Camella Joy. What's your favorite part of fatherhood? Definitely seeing

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>her grow up. I'll just posted a picture yesterday when

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>she was about thinking about spot six months at daycare.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>She was tiny and now she's run around talking, saying

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of stuff and it's time to a little kid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun, all right. A few wild card questions to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap things out. Who is your favorite athlete in any sport?

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<v Speaker 1>And why? By Serry Lewis always just been locked down,

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the way, what he stands for, the way to do it,

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>what he does on the field and off the field,

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>just the energy bringing the football and to people around him.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I always try to carry myself in that in that manner.

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Where do you like to spend your money on business opportunities.

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a closet full of shoes or electronics

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Nuh, I mean I gotta I gotta gamester him,

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>but I mean I probably turn it on once a decade.

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>All right. Last thing, you have a hyphenated last name,

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<v Speaker 1>Davis Gaither. Is that I always been the case or

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>did you choose to do that? That was something I

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>did for my dad. Since my dad he's gathering my

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>moms Davis um because my dad, I have a few

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>cousin did the last gathers. So he just wanted wanted,

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>uh that for himself and for my family, so I

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>can represent Davis ain't gather. It must have brought me

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>something that because once I did that, that's when football

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>changed for me. That's when I started starting all that.

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a great way to pay tribute to both parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you hey, You're off to hot seat. I appreciate

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you doing this. Best of luct to rest of the year,

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, thank you, Hi, Thanks to rookie A Keen

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Davis Skaith And here's a quick reminder to join Lap

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