1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast, the I've Seen Better Days edition 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: as we perform a postgame autopsy on Sunday's twenty seven 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: to three loss in Baltimore. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: postgame comments from players and coaches, and in depth analysis 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: from Dave Lapham. And this week's fund Fact segment is 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: with rookie Akeem Davis Gaither as we discuss a wide 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: variety of topics, including the Big Chair in his hometown 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: of Thomasville, North Carolina. If you would like to see 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, just do a Google search for 11 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: the Big Chair. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: bud Light Seltzer Refresh the game, and here's a quick 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: reminder that you can have the latest edition of this 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: subscribing on iTunes, stick, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing since the reunion of Chad Johnson 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: and Carson Palmer. Until last week, I had never heard 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: of a show put together by NFL Films called The Grind. 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: It features behind the scenes access with former NFL stars. 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: New episodes appear every Wednesday on the Epics Network Epix, 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: which I had also never heard of until last week. 22 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: While on last Wednesday's episode, Chad Johnson traveled to Idaho 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: to hang out at Carson Palmer's house and it was tremendous. 24 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: They reminisced about their Cincinnati days and then we got 25 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: to listen into their conversation as they watched Joe Burrow 26 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: lead the Bengals to last week's win over Jacksonville. And 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: following the game, there was a special two way hookup 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: that allowed that nine to eighty five combination talked to 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: the current nine to eighty five combo Burrow and t Higgins. 30 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: If you don't have the Epics Network, a few short 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: clips have found their way to the Internet. Just search 32 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: for Chad Johnson, Carson Palmer, the Grind. Now let's get 33 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: to Sunday's game. Last year, the Ravens set an NFL 34 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: record by rushing for three thousand, two hundred and ninety 35 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: six yards an average of two o six a game. 36 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson obviously led the way, but he's hardly the 37 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: only running threat, as the Bengals found out on Baltimore's 38 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: second play. Here's an end around for DuVernay, third round 39 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: draft pickrookie runs to the thirty five to forty sideline 40 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: fifty Bengals territory forty, and he'll be shoved out of 41 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: bounds near the Cincinnati thirty yard line. They mark him 42 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: out at the thirty one. That forty two yard end 43 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: around led to a forty six yard justin Tucker field goal, 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: giving Baltimore an early three nothing lead. The second time 45 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: Baltimore got the ball, the Ravens converted on third and five, 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: third and one, third and seven, and third and fourteen 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: before facing their fifth third down of the drive, third 48 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: down and goal. From the five shotgun snap, Lamar Jackson 49 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: fires into the end zone, caught by Boyle I make 50 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: that Andrews for the Ravens touchdown. It was ten nothing 51 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: Ravens after two drives for each team, and things got worse. 52 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: On the Bengals third possession, third and ten, the Bengals 53 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: hit their own twenty five yard line. Three receivers left, 54 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: two right, Burrow waiting for the shotgun snap. He has 55 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: the ball, he's in trouble, flings it down field and 56 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: it's intercepted. By Peters at the forty two yard line, 57 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: running back to the thirty five and Tee Higgins tackles 58 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: him at the thirty two. Boys, that's the kind of 59 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: mistake you can't make. Joe Burrows desperation. Heave under duress 60 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: was intended for AJ Green, the only pass thrown his 61 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: way before he spent the second half on the bench 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury. And it was a strange looking 63 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: play as AJ didn't jump for the ball. Here's Zach Taylor. 64 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: I was sitting right there on the line side of Aja. 65 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: I did not think that he could have made that play. 66 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: He probably didn't even know where the ball was to be. 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Cut on us with you. Through five games, AJ has 68 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: fourteen catches for one hundred nineteen yards, as long as 69 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: catch all year was for a fifteen yard gain. We'll 70 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: have more on that with Dave Lapham in just a bit. 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: The Marcus Peters I NT gave the Ravens a short 72 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: field and led to their third score in as many 73 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: drives to make it seventeen nothing. Early second quarter, first 74 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: and goal from the three pistol formation for Lamar Jackson 75 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: with mark Ingram behind. Jackson does a three hundred and 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: sixty degree spin throws into the end zone, caught for 77 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: the touchdown by Hollywood Brown. Number fifteen Marquise Hollywood Brown 78 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: had six catches for seventy seven yards and a touchdown. 79 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: Number eighty nine Mark Andrews also had six catches. His 80 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: went for fifty six yards and a touchdown, and they 81 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: were targeted on more than half of Lamar Jackson's thirty 82 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: seven passes. Here's Jesse Bates. We know where Lamar wants 83 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: to go in a fifteen or eighty nine, and I 84 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: mean it showed up today as well. That's all I mean, 85 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: that's all he was really gone to today was fifteen 86 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: or eighty nine. With a seventeen point lead in the 87 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: second quarter, Baltimore unleashed its pass rush, hitting Burrow ten 88 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: times and sacking him three times. In the first half. 89 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: Burrow has a man on either side as he waits 90 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: for the shotgun snap He's back to throw. Pump fakes. Burrow, 91 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: with plenty of time now, scrambling left and drilled from 92 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: behind by his former college teammate Patrick Queen, who comes 93 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: away with a football man. It was a blindside shot. 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had no idea Queen was closing in on 95 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: him like he was. And right now, Martindale is smelling 96 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: the blood and he's just bringing linebackers, He's bringing defensive backs, 97 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: he's bringing everybody. He's bringing one more than the Bengals 98 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: can block. Martindale as Baltimore's defensive coordinator, Don Wink, Martindale, 99 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: whose blitz happy approach was too much for Joe Burrow 100 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: in the Bengals offensive line. He had a good plan. 101 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Let me just st in next to get our plan 102 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: very well. I didn't played very well and we as 103 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: an offense didn't play very well. So he's gotta get fixed. 104 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: What can you do better? I mean it does it 105 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: matter a matter of everybody getting on the same page 106 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: against those blitz looks or what is it? Well? Personally, 107 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: I can get the ball out of my hands faster 108 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: I can. Um. You know, I wasn't very accurate today, 109 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: which was disappointing to me. You know, I thought we 110 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: had a great week of practice and it just didn't 111 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: carry over. You talked about getting rid of it quicker, 112 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: but what were they doing things to take maybe your 113 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: hot reads away where you couldn't do that at times? 114 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: You know, they do a good job of popping guys 115 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: out into the middle to take away those middle throws 116 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: and bringing guys that you don't have account for, and 117 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: not bringing the guys you do have account accounting for. 118 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: So they had a good plan. You know, they're a 119 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: good defense, a really good team. While the Bengals offense 120 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: struggled all day, their defense was outstanding for the final 121 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: three quarters, holding the Ravens to just one field goal 122 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: on Baltimore's final eight drives, not including a kneel down 123 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: in the final play of the game. Jackson finished with 124 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: just three yards rushing and one hundred eighty yards passing, 125 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: with a past A rating of seventy one point nine. 126 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: Third down and ten. At the Cincinnati twenty seven Lamar 127 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: Jackson short pass, it's intercepted, It's picked off by Logan 128 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: Wilson at the twenty four yard line, the Rookies second 129 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: NFL pick, and the Bengals takeover with one thirteen left 130 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: in the half. Here are Jesse Bates and Tyler Boyd. 131 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: I think we did a good job defensively, but when 132 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: you play it against really good teams like this, the 133 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: room for air is just really small. Um, you just 134 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: can't you know, I don't I don't care how you know, 135 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: our office isn't playing up to our standard, But I 136 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: don't care how bad that is. We just have to 137 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: keep it close. The defense played a heck of a game, 138 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: and for us on the other side, you know, it 139 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: wasn't wasn't too pretty. And that's what really hurts me, 140 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, because we put the time and we put 141 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: so much time in and repetition to this man. It 142 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: just didn't work for us. And it was a rude 143 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: awakening for Burrow. After throwing for at least three hundred 144 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: yards in each of his previous three games, Joe was 145 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: nineteen for thirty for one hundred eighty three yards, with 146 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: no touchdowns, one interception, two fumbles, and a passer rating 147 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: of sixty six point four. Shotgun snap Burrow in trouble 148 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: again and sacked again, this time by Humphrey cornerback coming 149 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: from the edge back at the thirty five yard line. 150 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: Hit number fifteen, sack number seven. Burrow has been sacked 151 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: twenty two times already. That's number one in the NFL, 152 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: three more than Carson Wentz. So how is Joe dealing 153 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: with it? You just deal with it and come back 154 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: in fight every play like like I have been. Burrow's 155 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: former LSU teammate Patrick Queen scored a defensive touchdown in 156 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, scooping up a Mike Thomas fumble that 157 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: was punched out by Marlon Humphrey his specialty, with Queen 158 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: running fifty three yards to the house to make it 159 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: twenty seven nothing. The Bengals hadn't been shut out in 160 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: fifty one games since who else Baltimore blanked them in 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen season opener. This time, Cincinnati avoided the 162 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: good this egg with less than a minute to go. 163 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: Randy Bullock twelve or thirteen so far this year. Harris 164 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: snaps to Huber, here's the swing of the leg and 165 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: the kick is good. So the Bengals avoid the shot 166 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: out and they trailed twenty seven to three with thirty 167 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: two seconds to go. That was the final, twenty seven 168 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: to three. Taylor and Burrow some up a sobering day. 169 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: We know where the issues were. We knew we had 170 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: to be a fishing on first second down, and we 171 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: had three charnovers minus yardage plays, which in some cases 172 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: can be really avoidable. And when you do that against 173 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Rags, they're gonna make you pay for it, 174 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: and it's gonna feel like that. You know, we're building 175 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: a culture here, We're moving in the right direction. Yeah, 176 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: obviously it wasn't great, but now we're gonna look back 177 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: on this team in a few years and say, wow, 178 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: you know that kind of propelled us forward. You know, 179 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep working hard. We got great people within 180 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: the organization on the team and a great coaching stuff, 181 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: So you know we're gonna keep working hard, keeping coming 182 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: to work every day to twin games. This is a 183 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: resilient team. It's a very connected team. It's unfortunate that 184 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: we put this performance on the field, playing and coaching. 185 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: But again, we're not gonna hit the panic button. We're 186 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna regroup and do itis for the Coals. It's off 187 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: to Indie next Sunday for the bengals fourth road game 188 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: in their first six. The Colts are three and two 189 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: after losing to Cleveland thirty two twenty three. And here's 190 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: how things look in the AFC North. The Steelers are 191 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: four and zero, the Ravens and Browns are four and one, 192 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: and the Bengals are one three and one, the best 193 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: division in football so far, The Bengals Booth podcast is 194 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with 195 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: a hint of fruit flavor. Now, let's get some postgame 196 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: analysis from my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. All Right, final 197 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: score twenty seven to three. It actually felt more lopsided 198 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: than that, and that's pretty lopsided. The Bengals could not 199 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: protect Joe Burrow, similar to the Philadelphia game a couple 200 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, even though though that one ended in 201 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: a tie fifteen hits the Ravens seven quarterback sacks. Through 202 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: five games, Joe Burrow has been hit fifty times. According 203 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: to official NFL stats, he's been sacked twenty two. That 204 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: would project to one hundred and sixty hits and seventy 205 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: point four sacks. The NFL single season record for a 206 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: quarterback is seventy six, when David Carr was the number 207 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: one overall picking a rookie. And that's uh, David Carr's 208 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: career didn't last very long, and you don't want that 209 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: to be the case for Joe Burrow. You know, the 210 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: mental part of it, the confidence part of it, everything 211 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: that goes along with it. It's just you know, you 212 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: start taking these blindside shots and it's just you know, 213 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: you start to lose confidence and what's happening around you. 214 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: And it's human nature. I don't care who you are, 215 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: I mean, would how would you like it if you're 216 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: standing in depotet or you're running, you're running a ten 217 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: yards sideline to sideline in the field and somebody just 218 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: hits you with something in your back and you don't 219 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: know when it's going to happen. You don't know how 220 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: it's going to happen, but it's going to happen at 221 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: some point. That's kind of what it feels like. I mean, 222 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a pleasant scenario. So I'm gonna 223 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: have to start doing things to protect him. Maybe he 224 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: should start thinking about protect himself a little bit better too, 225 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: you know at times and and uh, there's that balancing 226 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: act between when do I extend and create as opposed 227 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: to just live for another play and don't try to 228 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: make too much out of something out of nothing, you know, 229 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: something that's not there. So it's it's it's a learning 230 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: process I think for all involved. Bottom line is everybody 231 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: just has to get better though, because you know, if 232 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: you this Ravens defense. Once there was blood in the water. 233 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: You talk about sharks that are frenzied. I mean it 234 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: was like everybody was begging. I mean they were going 235 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: up and they were begging Martindale, bring me, blitz me, 236 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: let me have a piece of this action. I mean 237 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, they put seven or eight 238 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: guys up to the line of scrimmage. You don't know 239 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: which ones are coming, so you call a protection to 240 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: what you think might protect a certain look, and they 241 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: do something totally different. They bring the guys that you 242 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: haven't accounted for, and the guys you have accounted for 243 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: drop off into coverage. And that's what's so tough about them. 244 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: And when they get a lead, they do it over 245 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: and over and over. When it's third and six or 246 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: seven or more, They're gonna do it until you can 247 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: until you beat it. If you beat it with some 248 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: kind of blitz breaker, you know, some sort of a 249 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: blitz beat or blitz breaker, at some point in time, 250 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: you know he may reconsider we talked about before the 251 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: game in the Thursday night game, Andy Dalton and AJ 252 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Green personally with pre snapper Reeds and cited just and 253 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: all that beat the blitz and Martin deal stopped blitzing 254 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: for quarter and a half. Totally uncharacteristic. But this one man, 255 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: once he get up seventeen nothing and started, you know, 256 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: testing the waters, he found them to be delightful. I'm 257 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: not sure that an assistant coach has ever been on 258 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: a TV screen more than Don Wing Martindale was during 259 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: the course of that game. By the way, he is 260 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: not related to Winston Martindale. Member of the American TV 261 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: Game Show Hall of Fame. There is such a thing. 262 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: But here's what really helped this wink Martindale. The Bengals 263 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: faced third and ten twice, third and eleven twice, third 264 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: and twenty one, third and twenty four, third and twenty five. 265 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: That is not gonna work against the Baltimore Ravens, third 266 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: and twenty one, third and twenty four, third and twenty 267 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: five penalties. You're self destructing, You're staying to the Ravens. 268 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: We're not only gonna let you blitz us'na, We're gonna 269 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: say it's we have a quarter of the football field 270 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: to cover if we just to get back to the 271 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So you're stupid if you don't blitz 272 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: us I mean it's like, oh, man, I don't care 273 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: who you're playing against. If you're third and twenty plus, 274 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: it's a no win situation against the Ravens, you might 275 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: as well just take a knife and slit yourself. I mean, 276 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: it's like it's suicidal and you can't be in those situations. 277 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: You don't want to be in third and seven or more, 278 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: never mind third and twenty or more. So yeah, I mean, 279 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: at that point, Wink Martindale is saying, well, I know 280 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Halloween's not to the end of the month, but I'm 281 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: gonna it's like taking candy from a baby. I'm gonna 282 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: go make my candy right now. I'm gonna get after 283 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: the Bengals and blitz them to death if they're gonna 284 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: help like that until this football team, this football team 285 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: is nowhere near good enough to help the opponent. I mean, 286 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: there's there's absolutely it's nonsensical to think that they can 287 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: put themselves in situations like that. Nonsensical. By the way, 288 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: is the original Wink Martindale up there on a level 289 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: with Bob Barker and Alex Trebek on the All Time 290 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: Game Show host or is he on that next here 291 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: with Pat Say Tech, Bob Eubanks and others. I got 292 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: them on level two max Max Max. Alex Trebek still, 293 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean, battling cancer in his eighties, still getting it done, 294 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: my hero Barker and Trebek. That is that is a 295 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: level above all. Right, let's talk about the defense. His 296 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: performance obviously didn't start great. Ravens scored on their first 297 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: three drives. That that second drive that went for a 298 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: touchdown third down as a killer. They converted five times 299 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: on third down, including third and fourteen. But after the 300 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: first three drives of the game, three points for the 301 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Ravens offense on their last eight drives. That's getting it done. 302 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: It is getting it done. And Luanna roumoin company take 303 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: a bow. You know, they spied the quarterback with at 304 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: various levels, with guys that can tackle them, you know, 305 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: spy with the linebacker they can run. Logan Wilson. Phillips 306 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: was kind of in some blitz packages, was kind of 307 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: like spying on his own. He would delay the blitz 308 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: and and just really give Lamar Jackson a lot of problems. 309 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: Took away the outside running game, and when he tried 310 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: to extend plays in the passing game, there was somebody 311 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: all over him. I mean, they had a hell of 312 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: a game plan. They really did. To think that Lamar Jackson, 313 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: the leading rusher on the football team, ended the game 314 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: with three yards rushing, where it was like fifth or 315 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: sixth leading rusher on the football team. Speaks volumes. I mean, 316 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: they took away a massive part of the Baltimore Ravens 317 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: offensive productivity, Lamar Jackson's legs, and they made him, you know, 318 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: have to throw the football. And you know, my thought was, 319 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: I hope he has to throw twenty five times more. 320 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: He basically did that in the first half. I think 321 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: it was close to twenty five to finish with thirty 322 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: seven throws. Yeah, that's that's that's perfect, that's right in 323 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: And they gave up twenty points. I mean one of 324 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: the last touchdown was an unscripted score against the Bengals 325 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: offense when Humphrey punched it out and Patrick Queen picked 326 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: it up and ran to the house with it. That 327 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the defensive football team. So 328 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: they played winning football. You hold the Baltimore Ravens to 329 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: twenty points in Baltimore, that's winning football. The problem is 330 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: to give up seventeen on the first three drives that 331 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: made life easier for Don Wink Martindale and made to 332 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 1: make the decisions that he made to make it harder 333 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: on the offense to try to generate anything. I mean, 334 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: you can't let them jump out to that kind of lead. 335 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: If if they get a lead, it can't be a 336 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: three score lead in a quarter. Literally, they were up 337 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: seventeen points six seconds into the second quarter. That's brutal, brutal. 338 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: So you know, the only the only negative, the only 339 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: knock on the defense would be that that allowed them 340 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: to cumulate that kind of lead, you know, early in 341 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: the game. But again, the offense didn't know anything to 342 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: you to help their own situation. They didn't score, you know, 343 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't score till in the last minute 344 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: of the football the last few seconds of the football game. 345 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean. It was a tough, tough day, a tough 346 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: day at the office for everybody involved on the offensive 347 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: side of things for the Bengals. So we had our 348 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: first mini controversy of the season on Thursday when Carlos 349 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: Dunlap complained to reporters about his removal from the starting 350 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: lineup although he played reasonably well today. And now we've 351 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: got this postgame controversy that has sprung up regarding AJ Green. 352 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: I didn't see it while we were broadcasting the game, 353 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: but there's a clip on the internet where he appears 354 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: to be saying, just trade me. According to lip readers, 355 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: it dangerous to try to do that. Who knows if 356 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: that's really what he was saying. Aj was only targeted once. 357 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: That was an interception where he never saw the throw. 358 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Then he reaggravated the hamstringer or maybe it's the other 359 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: leg I don't know, but he sat out the rest 360 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: of the game. I hate to see this with Aj Green, 361 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the epitome of class. Nothing that would anything 362 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: negative about his tenure with the Bengals. But if he 363 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: did say just trade me, I'm not sure what he 364 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: would be upset about. Where the Bengals are concerned. They're 365 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: they're paying him, obviously on the franchise tag. They're playing him, 366 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: paying him and playing him, and so far he just 367 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: has not been able to get open and consistently catch 368 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah. I mean, they're paying him almost eighteen 369 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: million bucks for the season. It's a pretty good job. 370 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: I'll take that work. Not Dougal Hunt, you know, I 371 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: mean frustration we saw it boil over with Carlos Dunlap. 372 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: Now it's boiling over with aj Green. Everybody's frustrated, though, 373 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: And I know those guys experienced the five straight playoff games, 374 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: five straight playoff seasons, I should say, and you you, 375 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, the bar gets set at a certain height 376 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the team starts to struggle. 377 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, for as good as it was 378 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: in the record setting five straight seasons going to the postseason, 379 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: it's been record setting in the opposite direction here in 380 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: this phase a bit. So you know, that's when frustration 381 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: bill's over. And my thing is, it's easy to play 382 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: and be happy and satisfied when you win in football games. 383 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: The true test is when you're in the situation that 384 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: you're in right now and you're still getting paid. You're 385 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: getting paid to perform, you're getting paid to give, you know, 386 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: put your best foot forward and give everything you've got, 387 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, to the organization for the for the betterment 388 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: of the entire organization. So I understand it's tough. Been there. 389 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: I was on four and twelve football teams. I was 390 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: on twelve and four football teams. I understand, and I 391 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: know it's it's night and day, it's North and South Pole. 392 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: But believe me, I mean you got to. You have 393 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: to pride yourself from the fact that, no matter what, 394 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: you were giving full effort, in giving everything you possibly 395 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: could from a contribution standpoint to help turn it around 396 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: when it was poor and to sustain a level of 397 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: excellence when it was good. That's what you're getting paid 398 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: to do. Right now. Unfortunately, these two teams are not close. 399 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: Baltimore had the best record in the NFL during the 400 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: regular season last year fourteen and two. They had twelve 401 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers. A year ago, they lost one when they 402 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: let Earl Thomas go. They traded for Calais Campbell, who's 403 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: a five time Pro Bowler. They drafted Patrick Queen in 404 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: the first round. He was excellent today. They drafted JK. 405 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: Dobbins in the second round. Any Ohio State fan knows 406 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: what he's capable of doing. This is an exceptionally good 407 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore team that you know, last two meetings or seventy 408 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: six to sixteen, I don't think it's that lop sided. 409 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: But unfortunately the Bengals have a long way to go 410 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: to catch up to the Ravens. Right now yeah, I mean, 411 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: you know, you you end up saying, all right, you 412 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: beat the Jacksonville Jaguars, And in my mind, you know, 413 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: that was in my mind the big test because they 414 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a dozen Pro Bowlers, you know, they had one, 415 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: and the Chargers had multiple Pro Bowls in the defensive line. 416 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: Cleveland had a Pro Bowl in the defensive line. Philadelphia 417 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: had multiple Pro Bowls in the defensive line. Jacksonville had one. 418 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: But you know one time first Pro Bowl, Baltimore's got 419 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: multiple Pro Bowlers and Baltimore at Indianapolis, Cleveland, Tennessee at 420 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh fifteen and three. Now it's sixteen and three and 421 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: maybe better depending on how these other games pan out. 422 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: So you're looking at you know, after that stretch, you 423 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: got the Redskins at Washington, the Giants at Miami, Dallas. 424 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean those those uh, those four teams right there 425 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: are the reverse. You know they're all struggling, but you 426 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: know it's like you have to put yourself in a 427 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: position these these teams, Like you said, Dan, the difference, 428 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: the differential between where where the Ravens are and where 429 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: the Bengals are. If you if you don't play to 430 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: your highest level, you're gonna get embarrassed. And the Bengals 431 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: played C minus football maybe I don't know, better than 432 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: C minus because the defense I think was much better. 433 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: Special teams were solid. The phase that let them down 434 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: obviously was the offense and let them down dramatically. They 435 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: had a failing grade. So it brings everybody down. But 436 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: say it's C and if the Ravens who offensively didn't play, 437 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, as well as they've been playing, but their 438 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: defense was lights out. If they if they play you know, 439 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: B plus or better, you're gonna see this kind of thing. 440 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: So you have to try to get You have to 441 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: try to perform at the highest level you possibly can, 442 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: up to your capabilities, and if you don't, this is 443 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. I mean right now, you're you're 444 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: trying to build toward getting closer to these upper echelon teams. 445 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: When you don't play at you at a good level, 446 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: you're going to be embarrassed by these upper echelon teams. 447 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: All right, Just to wrap it up, to reconfirm you 448 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: have eighty six year old Winston Wink Martindale, the famed 449 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: game show host of Tick Tecto High Rollers and other 450 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: shows ranked as a second tier all time game show 451 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: host a notch below Barker and Trebec Trebec and Barker 452 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: was great. Barker's my man. And they say, they say, 453 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: Barker he had some beautiful women by his side. Barker's 454 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: beauties at all times. Yeah, Barker's beauties. And there was 455 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: a reason for Barker's beauties. Barker was the man. There 456 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: was brutal injury news in the game as DJ Reader 457 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: was taken off the field on a cart and according 458 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: to the NFL Networks Mike Garafolo, it's a quadricep's injury 459 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: that's expected to keep Reader out for the rest of 460 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: the season, pending further tests. Let's finish this edition of 461 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: the podcast with something more cheerful. It's this week's fun 462 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: Facts segment, where you get to know the person under 463 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: the pads. Time for some fun facts or linebacker Akeem 464 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: Davis gather from Thomasville, North Carolina, known as the Chair 465 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: City because of the furniture industry in that area and 466 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: Thomasville's most famous landmark. From what I understand, the chairs 467 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: a big chair. Tell us about the big chair? Is 468 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: this really like a huge chair like a statue in 469 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: the middle of the town. People can't say pustures on it. 470 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I think in Dannity Center if they still do that, 471 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: they put like a big old sent a class up there. 472 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: It's benefit. It's a chair that's thirty feet tall and 473 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: ten feet wide. Somewhere in the family archives there's your 474 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: picture of you in front of the big chair, part 475 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: of pro before the prom. Yeah, people meet up there 476 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: take pictures because they got like a found right next 477 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: to it. I love it. Sounds like a great picture. 478 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: We're doing fun facts or the King. Davis Gaither tell 479 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: us a little bit about growing up there and what 480 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: you like to do as a kid. It's really like 481 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: a small town. Probably every other person probably my cousin 482 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: of some sort, so everybody knows everybody. My friends I 483 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: grew I still taking them today. Uh. We used to 484 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: do like adventurous stuff, playing outside, run through the woods. Um, 485 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: we used to do something stupid, played tackle football on 486 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: the street, which is crazy in high school with Kenya 487 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: Letard and football, basketball, baseball and tracked and sports always 488 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: come easily to you. My family just known for sports, 489 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: so I don't know if it can't easily, but my 490 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: dad was always a coach. My brother says the basketball 491 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: basketball player, so everybody wanted to be the best in 492 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: the house, so it was always striving for that. You 493 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: played high school football for a coach named Allen Brown 494 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: who was coached at that high school for three decades 495 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: more than three wins. You and your dad, That's what 496 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: was it like to play for a high school coaching legend. 497 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome knowing that, especially knowing that they 498 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: coach my dad, so knowing that they had history there. 499 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: Actually got a picture my dad was telling him about 500 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: to play, and I got the same type of picture 501 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. Put it together. It was kind 502 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: of funny, but it was definitely good playing for him. 503 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: I know, I kind of really messed up because either 504 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: him or the hole tel to let my dad no sense. 505 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: My dad was coaching at Ball State in Muncie, Indiana, 506 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: so everybody always pickled the phone and let my dad 507 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: know how bad I was doing. Early on. Well, I 508 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: hope they let him know how well you were doing 509 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: when things got better. Yeah, they probably didn't. We're doing 510 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: fund Factor The King David Skither. When you finished high school, 511 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: you were one hundred and seventy pounds not the ideal 512 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: size for a college linebacker. How did that impact recruiting? 513 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: Teams wanted Like, I know, my junior Duke wanted me 514 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: to be one eighty five, and they gave me to 515 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: put them in like a little time scale to get that. 516 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: But I mean, my dad wasn't there. My mom she 517 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: wear two jobs, so I really didn't know nothing about nutrition. 518 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: So I was eating bad food and really went paying 519 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: too much attention about my eating habits so that that 520 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: didn't happen. But they came in. They want to speed, 521 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: and it took. It took a chance on Appalachian States, 522 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: about thirty five minutes from where you grew up. You 523 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: had a tremendous career there. The team won a bowl 524 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: game every year you were there. What was the best 525 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: part of your college experience really just learning and growing 526 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: as a as a man and as an individual. I 527 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: became a father there at the second, second, third year, 528 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: so that was huge. And this Ben Rondo's guess and 529 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: winning spirit. The most famous win in Appalachian State history 530 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: was the upset over Michigan back in two thousand and seven. 531 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: But you played a key role in an upset that 532 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: was almost as big your senior year against North Carolina, 533 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: the big school in the state. You had an interception, 534 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: you blocked the game tying field goal attempt on the 535 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: final play of the game. What stands out about that day? 536 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: We want to call it upset because we felt like 537 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: it was the business state we always filled that way. 538 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: This is the chip we carry on a show this um. 539 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: But that definitely huge win. This. It was my birthday 540 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: that day too, so I definitely wanted to be a 541 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: big game h We wanted to win that game. We 542 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: went in knowing that we would win that game. So 543 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: I think the whole game was this pretty It was good. 544 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Then I came in your senior year at app State. 545 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: You suffered a stress fracture in your foot in week three. 546 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: Doctor told you you could snap it if you kept playing, 547 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: and that's what you did, even though you had an 548 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: NFL future. Why did you chose to choose to keep playing? 549 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: This has been out there. I know my gods was 550 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: depending on me. You had two freshman players UM behind 551 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: me that when one maybe one as ready to play, 552 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: so the team was counting on me. I know, possibly 553 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: could be my last time playing football if then the 554 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: field didn't work out, So I just wanted to give 555 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: him my own then if it if it was a breakdown, 556 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: I'll be done. But I wanted to go all out 557 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: and give him all to that team. We've mentioned your dad. 558 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: He's a college football coach, currently the wide receivers coach 559 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: at Army. What are some of the most importan lessons 560 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: he gave you when it comes to football? Gave me 561 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: a bunch. You'd probably called me at the every press 562 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: of the game before I even get to get in 563 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: the locker room. So he's always I called him coach 564 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: that that's that's the name of my phone. He's half coach, 565 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: half the it definitely always coaching me. But really the 566 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: biggest thing he always try to implement my head is 567 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: this be better than what you were yesterday. I try 568 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: to start to do that. You were named the sun 569 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Belt Defensive Player of the Year your final year at 570 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: Appalachian State. Previous winners of that award include the Great 571 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware. What did the honor mean and what kind 572 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: of trophy or plaque do you get for being the 573 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: sun Belt Defensive Player of the Year. I mean a 574 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: lot this knowing how I started there, coming in off 575 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: of Andrew when I got the red shirted, didn't play 576 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: as much my first two and a half season, really 577 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: was the best teams guy, and this kept finding my position. 578 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: Coach kept believing in me, pushing pushing me to be 579 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: better each day, and it's working my tail off to 580 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: actually contribute more to my team and getting the start 581 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: a role in this keep elevating each year. So that 582 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: was definitely a huge war for my family. That's knowing 583 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: that it wasn't easy for me. This went't handed to me. 584 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: I had to work for and then it was good 585 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: for my team, UM and the young guys that's coming 586 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: in behind me knowing that the standard is set and 587 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: now as day job, keep the standard and uplifted UM play. 588 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: We get it. It's like a glass plot. It's pretty 589 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty sweet. I read that you started a cleaning 590 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: business in college. Is that true? And if so, described, Yeah, 591 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: we started that's that's summer going into my senior year, 592 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: Me and a guy on a football team and my 593 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: daughter's mom. We all started that h that summer or 594 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: really that spring, and they really took off that summer 595 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: going into going into camp out there really some workers 596 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: so she wouldn't be dog tight. We had about three 597 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: or four workers, but they got pretty pretty busy. Where 598 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: did you clean offices, houses, whatever? Really? Everything we did 599 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: the office, Airbnb's apartment turn around really not but students 600 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: out there. So during the summers, I mean everybody's moving out, 601 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: so we cleaned those. We did pressure Washington really in 602 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: things you think of, we did all types of stuff. 603 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: A few more fun facts for the King, David Skather, 604 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, you're a proud dad. Your daughter is 605 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Camella Joy. What's your favorite part of fatherhood? Definitely seeing 606 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: her grow up. I'll just posted a picture yesterday when 607 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: she was about thinking about spot six months at daycare. 608 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: She was tiny and now she's run around talking, saying 609 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff and it's time to a little kid. 610 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: It's fun, all right. A few wild card questions to 611 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: wrap things out. Who is your favorite athlete in any sport? 612 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: And why? By Serry Lewis always just been locked down, 613 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: the way, what he stands for, the way to do it, 614 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: what he does on the field and off the field, 615 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: just the energy bringing the football and to people around him. 616 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: I always try to carry myself in that in that manner. 617 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: Where do you like to spend your money on business opportunities. 618 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: You don't have a closet full of shoes or electronics 619 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. Nuh, I mean I gotta I gotta gamester him, 620 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: but I mean I probably turn it on once a decade. 621 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: All right. Last thing, you have a hyphenated last name, 622 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: Davis Gaither. Is that I always been the case or 623 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: did you choose to do that? That was something I 624 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: did for my dad. Since my dad he's gathering my 625 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: moms Davis um because my dad, I have a few 626 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: cousin did the last gathers. So he just wanted wanted, 627 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: uh that for himself and for my family, so I 628 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: can represent Davis ain't gather. It must have brought me 629 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: something that because once I did that, that's when football 630 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: changed for me. That's when I started starting all that. 631 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: It's a great way to pay tribute to both parents. 632 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: Are you hey, You're off to hot seat. I appreciate 633 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: you doing this. Best of luct to rest of the year, 634 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, Hi, Thanks to rookie A Keen 635 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: Davis Skaith And here's a quick reminder to join Lap 636 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: and Lance McAlister for Bengals Line Monday night from six 637 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: to nine on seven hundred WLW. Done on Wednesday night, 638 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: I'll join Lap for the Bengals Game Plan Show from 639 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: six to eight on ESPN fifteen thirty. That's going to 640 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: do it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, 641 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: brought to you by bud Light Seltzer, refresh the game. 642 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: If you haven't done so already, please subscribe and if 643 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: you have a minute, give it a rating or share 644 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: a comment that helps more Bengals fans find this podcast. 645 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Horde and thank you for listening to the 646 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast