1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a Break? 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so much for that. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: with m bar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: It is Thursday, December seventh, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen, 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: episode number eighty four. Welcome to the latest edition of 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: The Break. We are a live from the s WBC 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Mortgage studios at the Star and it is our job 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: day to get you ready for Cowboys Versus Eagles, a 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: day we're going to focus in on the Eagles defense 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: versus the Cowboys offense. We get some updates here at 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: the beginning of the show. Patrick, let's start there first. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Yesterday I was out, but I did see the news 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: that won Mike McCarthy had a little medical issue that 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: was going on. What do we know at this point 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: about him in his availability. 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit of a medical scare happened in 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 6: real time while while we were doing the show yesterday. 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 6: But Mike showed up to the facility yesterday to try 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 6: to go through his normal rigamarou and he didn't feel well, 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 6: had some abdominal pain. He was gonna try to tough 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 6: through it, but you know, his Knights of the Roundtable, 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 6: Dad and his coordinators, they looked at him and said, 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 6: you don't look well, go get it checked out. And 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 6: so he did, thankfully. But it was found out that 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 6: he had a cute Appendicidi's so good that he caught 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 6: that early because I don't wanted to burst right because 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 6: it could be life threatening if at birst. So he 37 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 6: underwent surgery yesterday and I'm told that he is released 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 6: and he is recovering now when the expectation remains that 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 6: he will be available to coach against the Eagles. I 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 6: spoke with Bones Fossil yesterday in the locker room just 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 6: to kind of get a sense of if the Cowboys 42 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 6: know if Mike is going to be up in the 43 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 6: box orf he's going to be on the sideline, and 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 6: Fossil doesn't know quite yet, but my speculation, pure speculation. 45 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 6: My speculation is that Mike is going to be on 46 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 6: the sideline. I think Mike wants to give that energy 47 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 6: to his team and show them that he's there for 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 6: them and do everything possible. So as long as there's 49 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 6: no setback, knock on Wood, because it is a medical situation, 50 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 6: the expectation is he'll be on the field or at 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 6: least in some capacity present so that he can coach 52 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 6: against the Eagles. 53 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: You know, that's the one where I was. I hear 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: you say he'd be on the sideline. I don't even 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: know if that is that possible, because when you've got 56 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: some done before on the sideline though, like that's a 57 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: different thing, like when you get cut. I don't know 58 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: if you've ever had surgery. I've had surgery on my 59 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: stomach before. And for like the next couple of weeks, 60 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: I was kind of walking really slow and kind of 61 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: hunched over a bit to be on a sideline and 62 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: standing for contact three hours and risking the fact that 63 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: some play runs toward you and now you got to 64 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: move quickly. I don't know if that's even possible right now. 65 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: This is a doctor's decision is going to be, you know, 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, Mike will probably try and tough it out 67 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: and all that I was told about. Dan Campbell came 68 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: one time to training camp with appendicitis and then he 69 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: practiced like a week later, so he was like, you know, 70 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: you feel better along the way, but this is totally 71 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: a coach's decision. I was laughing because it reminded me 72 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: of everybody talking yesterday. It was like when back in 73 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: the day. This reminded me of Dick Cheney at the 74 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: White House when they president was out. Vice President was, 75 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: I mean, everything's cool. I'm here, you know, I'm like, 76 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: everybody fire behind you, everybody's talking like the White House, 77 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: you know, word coach hands, everybody's good, Country's on him. 78 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: Country's gonna be fine, you know. And I just it 79 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: just reminded me of that. But it's almost as big 80 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: as the White House, this place. But yeah, we'll see. 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: We'll see if if, if the doctors allow him, Mike, 82 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: Mike will try and fight through it. Yeah, I'm sure 83 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 3: it would, and but yeah, it's going to be their call. 84 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: It's interesting because I did read yesterday North Turner. I 85 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: suppose he had one years ago. He had some similar 86 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: situation happened on Friday, and he coached the game on Sunday. 87 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: What I didn't hear was whether he was in the 88 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: booth or on the sideline, which to me is it. 89 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: That's a huge difference. But you know, and you know 90 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: I talked about that yesterday Ambro. I just, man, that 91 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: seems that seems like a big stretch to be on 92 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: a sideline. 93 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: A few days later, Let's look at the positive. 94 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 6: Just make sure Cable is standing next to him, ensure 95 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 6: no content. 96 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 7: Cable will make sure. And by the way, Cable is 97 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 7: what is it his actual title, He's. 98 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 8: Like the head of security or he's always say this 99 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 8: version of basically Ryan calls him the Viking because he 100 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 8: looks like is big and strong and. 101 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: He looks right off the boat. 102 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll make sure nobody gets to Mike. If Mike 103 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: he looking right in front of no. 104 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 7: But I started the more I thought about it, I'm like, 105 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 7: if he is, let's say where he does have to 106 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 7: be on the booth in a booth maybe and just 107 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 7: maybe this helps just going to see the different the 108 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 7: game in a different perspective. And against Seattle, we were 109 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 7: questioning some of those calls that happen later in the game, 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 7: and some of those decisions. Maybe you by him being 111 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 7: in a separate environment, you you think differently. And I'm 112 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 7: thinking this game is going to be a very close one. 113 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 7: I don't see either team just completely blowing out the 114 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 7: other one. So I think it's very it's going to 115 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 7: be a close one, and most likely than not they 116 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 7: might be they might end up in a situation where 117 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 7: those decisions will be will play a huge role in 118 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 7: this game, in the outcome. So I'm just saying, maybe 119 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 7: maybe it's all meant to happen for his health and 120 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 7: for the health of the team and what happens this weekend. 121 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 7: But I do think that even being on the booth, 122 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 7: I see positive sides to it rather than negative. 123 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's pros and cons to it. Obviously 124 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 6: there's a reason DQ is up in the booth, gives 125 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 6: him the birds. I view real life all twenty two 126 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 6: as it's happening, So I mean, obviously that would to 127 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 6: Amborun's point, he would give a different perspective for Mike 128 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 6: as far as play calling, which is a huge benefit. 129 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 6: The negative there would be that you don't have the 130 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 6: immediate feedback and collaboration that you would have on the 131 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 6: sideline with Dak Prescott and some of the receivers. So 132 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 6: it's a little bit of a trade off. But I 133 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 6: just want Mike to do whatever is best for his 134 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 6: health and that's the bottom line. And ultimately it does 135 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 6: sound like he will be available to coach at the game. 136 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 6: What his location is between him and the doctors, but 137 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 6: I'm sure they'll get it figured out. 138 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: That's an interesting thought because I never have really noticed 139 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: during games. I don't know if you guys have. I've 140 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: seen some head coaches who call plays, going back and 141 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: talking to their play their players while they're on the sideline. 142 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 2: I've never really noticed that. With Mike. It always seems 143 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: to me like he's up that the front, still watch, 144 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: still engage with the game. Have you guys seen that much? 145 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 3: I think Scott Tolzine is the one guy. It's funny 146 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: because Brian Schottenheimer stands at one end of the bench 147 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: and it's like he stands opposite of where Mike is. Okay, 148 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 3: and then you've got Linda Wells and that he's responsible 149 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: for getting personnel in and out of the game. Londaz Yeah, 150 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: and so you'll see, so Mike is standing right there 151 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: with him, But I usually see Scott Tolzine is the 152 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: one that sits down with Dak and Cooper Rush when 153 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: it comes to any type of work that need to 154 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: go through and sequencing on their pads or things like that. 155 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, it'll be interesting if he's not 156 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: one that typically spends a whole lot of time with 157 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: players on the sideline. Maybe that's not an effect that 158 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: you feel if he's in the press box as you 159 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: do other times, taking. 160 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: In assets because of the games. Is that what we're doing. 161 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: That's that's thanks to my good old trustee, next Gen 162 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: Stat's website I'm looking at anyway. Yeah, so, I mean, 163 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'm interested to see number one. 164 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: Where is he and then what's difference? Is there really 165 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: a difference based on what he typically does in a game? 166 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: Is there really a difference? What I do know is 167 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: this offense is really really playing at a high level 168 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: right now. I really don't want anything, right, I don't 169 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: want anything, Thames. But obviously this week, due to these circumstances, 170 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: something's going to probably be a little bit different, and 171 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: hopefully Michael just be in a good headspace to be 172 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: able to do what he normally does coming off with surgery, 173 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: and he'll be, as you said, his medical situation will 174 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: be taken care first and foremost. All Right, let's talk 175 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: about a roster move Cowboys made yesterday Peyton Hindershot activated. 176 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: He is now back to the fifty three man roster. 177 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: Sean Kune now takes his spot on I R. Brian. 178 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: I see your eyebrows. Raise you feel about that? 179 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: Tell you what now you feel about that? Man? I'm 180 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: in a good You're talking about being in a good 181 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: space right now. You know what. I think this more 182 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: has to do with and he's stealing. McEwan's dealing with 183 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: an ankle injury right now. That's going to cost him 184 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: some time here for the next four weeks. But I 185 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: think they're more confident with Hunter Lipke being that fullback role. 186 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit easier for them to 187 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: say if Hunter Lipkey wasn't doing a decent enough job, 188 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: then there's probably no reason to put McEwan down. You 189 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: would probably say, okay, just fight through it, and you know, 190 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: we'll keep playing you and you'll play special teams. But 191 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: I think it's more about how they're happy with what 192 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Hunter Lipkey's done and it's allowed them to make this move. 193 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: So I'm glad personally to have Hindershot back. I think 194 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: he offers you another weapon. I know we haven't seen 195 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: at all the tight ends. I think as a whole 196 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: have been a pretty damn good group. You know, there 197 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: was a lot of questions about them coming into training camp, 198 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: but they've they've more than exceeded my expectations for what 199 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: they've done. So adding Hindershot back, I think that's a 200 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: guy that we're going to be surprised. He might make 201 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: a player two that all of a sudden it's like, 202 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: oh wow, we've missed that for the last four or 203 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: five weeks. So I'm totally okay with this move right now. 204 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 205 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 6: Same, And like I said, you know, prior to them 206 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 6: making the decision, I wanted to see Hindershot activated for 207 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 6: a couple of reasons. One, if you go back and 208 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 6: look at his rookie film, yeah he had some downs, 209 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 6: but he had some ups. Just needs to get more 210 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 6: control over his receiver receptions, you know, no tip drill interceptions, 211 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 6: no drops. But when he makes a play, boys did 212 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 6: a play. So he's flashed in a way that really 213 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 6: made me excited to see the duo of him and 214 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 6: Ferguson before the Schoolmaker pick was made. But then Ferguson 215 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 6: kind of struggled starting the season and then he's been 216 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 6: going ever since on IR so I wanted to see 217 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 6: him back on the field to see how he reacts 218 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 6: to return, how he reacts to it being the Jake 219 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 6: Ferguson show with Schoolmaker getting involved, how do the Cowboys 220 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 6: get Hindershot involved? What does that look like as far 221 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 6: as that trio is concerned at a top the tight 222 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 6: end depth chart. But also you need to see what 223 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 6: he can give you before you get into this offseason 224 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 6: because we're all excited about what John Stevens Junior could 225 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 6: have been this season if not for the torn acl 226 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 6: So we're all looking forward to seeing what he can 227 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 6: be when he gets back on the field. And you 228 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 6: know OTA's and mini camp and training camp and there's 229 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 6: going to have to be a decision made months and 230 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 6: months from now, and you just want it as a 231 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 6: GM and as will McLain at Scouting Department, you want 232 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 6: to be able to have as much data and film 233 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 6: in front of you as possible when that camp battle 234 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 6: fire is up for So for all of those reasons 235 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 6: and more, and the more being I believe him the 236 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 6: shot can be another weapon for Dak Prescott. This is 237 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 6: just the smart move. 238 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I've said this before, even yesterday. 239 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: I have my doubts. 240 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 7: He's a player that had a great start of his 241 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 7: NFL career. He did a great job last year and 242 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 7: what he showed everybody. I'm a fan of his and 243 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 7: I wish him the best and I hope that he 244 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 7: can be someone that can contribute right away in this 245 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 7: tough month of December. And to me, it's more of 246 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 7: the timing of how things are playing out, because even 247 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 7: prior to the injury, he wasn't having a good year. 248 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 7: He didn't have a good training camp, even the games 249 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 7: that he was there, it was not good. So I 250 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 7: think it was more on the mental side of things. 251 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 7: Hopefully he's in a better headspace and going into this 252 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 7: knowing that the Cowboys are opening a spot for him, 253 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 7: which should make him feel better and given you know 254 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 7: that they're still putting trust in him and his game. 255 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 7: So bunch of doubts on my end, but I do 256 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 7: I am rooting for him, and I do really like 257 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 7: him a lot, and I hope he's able to translate 258 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 7: good things into the field. 259 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 6: I do really hope that you make a good point 260 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 6: on Brus Farres his mental headspace. I really hope that 261 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 6: he's looking at it in that capacity as far as 262 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 6: being thankful for the opportunity and willing to step in 263 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 6: and make some plays versus thinking to himself, it took 264 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 6: them twenty one days, and they almost went to the 265 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 6: buzzer with this. They don't look at it the latter 266 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 6: look at it the former. You're on the field, go 267 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 6: out there and make some plays and make them, make 268 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 6: them right, prove them right, because this is the team 269 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 6: that gave you a chance as an undrafted free agent. 270 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 6: This is the team that gave you the reps last 271 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 6: year so that you could flash. And so don't look 272 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 6: at it as a took them twenty one days. Are 273 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 6: they unsure? No, go out there and handle your business. 274 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to real quick say before we 275 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: go to break, you got to give a lot of 276 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 2: credit to Lunda Wells and what he's done with his 277 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: tight end. Like you talked about this group in this room, 278 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: like this, this group you're talking about guys that have 279 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: that he's developed, Like Dalton Schultz. We all sat on 280 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: this show. Uh you're probably you over on Talking Cowboys 281 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: at the time, and we're like, yeah, I think the 282 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz Show is over and this was like two 283 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: of his career, but like we were like, we were like, 284 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: he's not He's never going to develop and uh and 285 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: and you saw him develop and turn into a really 286 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: really good player for the Cowboys. And now you're looking 287 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: at a guy like Jake Ferguson in his second year 288 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: who is producing well enough to where I think he's 289 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: going to be a part of the conversation for a 290 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, Like he's playing at that level. And and 291 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: you start thinking about that and what Hendershott was able 292 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: to do as a rookie last year, and then what 293 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: we saw from even from John Stevens this year at 294 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: training camp, like there are this guy knows what he's 295 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: doing when it comes tight in and he has a 296 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: career before the Cowboys where he had a lot of 297 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: production there as well with the Giants. So I just 298 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: I got to give him a little love. Londa knows 299 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: what he's doing. 300 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: Some people say he's actually a better off it's a 301 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: line coach. Really, Yeah, that is that. 302 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: He's that type of co I would trust it if you. 303 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: Plugged him in as an offensive line coach, he would 304 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: be just as just as productive. 305 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows what he's doing. He's doing a great job. 306 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: And you with coaches, you always got to look at 307 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: the results and look at the results over time. His 308 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: results over time look pretty dark. 309 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, Lunda has been phenomenal. And I love the relationship 310 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 6: between Lunda and the scouting department because it's you know, 311 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 6: as well as Lunda is developing this talent, and he 312 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 6: is most certainly doing that, the collaboration that leads to 313 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 6: just them spotting the right kind of talent and the 314 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 6: right fits for the situation. Because I know there was 315 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 6: some not me because I was on the Fergie train 316 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 6: last year, but there were some that were wondering, Okay, well, 317 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 6: with Dolton shouts you lose him, You're losing over eight 318 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 6: hundred yards of production. You're losing Dak Prescott's statistically his 319 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 6: number one target. What does that look like? Okay, well, 320 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 6: you look at Lunda Wells and he says, Jake, you're up. 321 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 6: And then he says, schoolmaker, we can develop you while 322 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: Jake is you know, So, Jake's hit another level. I 323 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 6: think last game he tied Jason Whiten for the most 324 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 6: receiving touchdowns through the first couple of seasons. So when 325 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 6: you're in that conversation this early. It's good stuff. 326 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: And actually that's another reason why I'm a big believer 327 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: that gives Schoolmaker time. It's gonna work out, trust me, 328 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: because I have faith in Lunda. Lounda knows what you're doing. 329 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: They're gonna he's gonna that's fine. I'm just saying I 330 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: just Londa on this one. He'll get it right. He'll 331 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: get him to a point where he needs to be. 332 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: And I think in a year or two we'll look 333 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: back and be like, yeah, he was just growing and. 334 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 6: Thanks to Jake, he has time to develop because he 335 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 6: didn't have to come in kind of like Masie Smith 336 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 6: didn't have to come in and immediately be that guy 337 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 6: because of Jonathan Hankins, Olsa Chauncey. 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He's 399 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: your guy. Welcome back. 400 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: It is the second segment of The Breakway, a live 401 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: from the SWBC Mortgane Studios at the Star. This segment 402 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: brought to you by blockchain dot Com. All right, let's 403 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: talk about the Philadelphia defense versus the Cowboys offense. Okay, 404 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with a bigger picture question, Brian, if 405 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: you had to identify one thing, that one problem that 406 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia defense posed for the Cowboys offense when they 407 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: met earlier this season, what would you identify that to 408 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: be and has that area improved for Dallas since that time. 409 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: I was going to lead this thing off by saying, 410 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: this game is going to come down to how will 411 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: Terrence Steel plays right tackle? And it really it's whether 412 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: it's Hassan Reddick, or it's a sweat or it's any 413 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: number of Brandon Graham, anybody that they put over on 414 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: that side that's going to rush him. You know, it's 415 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: offensive lineman. You've heard me say this a bunch. They 416 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 3: play seventy plays. If they have three bad plays, it's 417 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: usually a really good game. If they have six bad plays, 418 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: it's probably a pretty bad game. And Terrence Steell had 419 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: his moments where he was actually pretty good watching the 420 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: tape last night. Again, they've got to figure out a 421 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: way to maybe help him, and now that comes at 422 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 3: a price. The price is do you get in his 423 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: way and mess him up when he's blocking. There's a 424 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: lot of these offensive tackles that don't like help on 425 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: the outside because backs tight ends, people get in the 426 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: way of your technique, and so you have to be 427 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: very mindful of can your offensive tackle handles somebody that's 428 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: helping him. You know, you could chip guys, you can 429 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: you can? I think the way that Cowboys can do 430 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: it in this game. Is they can try and widen Reddick. 431 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: And I mean I mean widen is you make him play, 432 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: You make him wider in space. When you put a 433 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: man to his side, he has to he's gonna on 434 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: the outside shoulder. So if you know that's that would 435 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: how I would do it. I would go back to 436 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: the plan. Several years ago, they played Joey Bosa in 437 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: a game. Actually it was Terrence Steele's first start, and 438 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: it was there were times where they didn't always allow 439 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: Steel to block one on one and you know, we're 440 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: probably past all that, but I would just make sure 441 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: I would keep Reddick as wide as possible. 442 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 7: Now, but you don't think he's he's improved since they 443 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 7: played the Eagles. 444 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: Oh, he's improved, but I'm not going to take another chance. 445 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna he was he was. You know, I've 446 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: seen him play very very well. But that right, that 447 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: right tackle spot wrecked your games last time you played. 448 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, is a problem. 449 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the problem. And so yeah, you can improve, 450 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 3: but you also, you know, you also got to make 451 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 3: sure that you don't let it happen again. What happened 452 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: the first time that you played him a week nine. Now. 453 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: I'll say this though too. Last week I saw Reddick 454 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: against the forty nine ers shift to the other side. 455 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: So for some reason they were trying to run him 456 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: not on the as the left end, but as the 457 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 3: right end in this game and against Trent Williams, which 458 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 3: I really didn't understand, but it might have been because 459 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers were able to run the ball 460 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: going to their left. They had the Eagles had a 461 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: problem with the toss sweep perimeter plays on the outside, 462 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: so they might have put a Reddick over there to 463 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: try and maybe keep people from or from the forty 464 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: nine ers running the football. Adam to that side, but 465 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: there's kind of going to be a game going on here. 466 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: They can't let whoever's playing left end just go after 467 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: steal in this football game. And I trust Steele, but 468 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: I do I do want to give him some help 469 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: in certain situations. It didn't have to be all the time, 470 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 3: but I just want to make sure that we're covered 471 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: on that right side. 472 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: How much has the loss of Dean Cunningham their line 473 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: hurt them? And way what you what is? How's it 474 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: manifested itself? 475 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: Than being well, I'll tell you what, when you when 476 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: you look at Dean and Cunningham both they both were 477 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: playing okay before in week nine, they were okay. You know, 478 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: going back and looking my notes, you know, teams have 479 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: had the ability to throw the ball on these guys 480 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: when they were in coverage. There was a time where 481 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 3: you know, these guys had been targeted quite a bit, 482 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's you know, eleven for eleven, 483 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 3: you know, you know, twenty five to thirty two. I mean, 484 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 3: they'd had struggles in some areas where and now they 485 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: signed Shack you know, Shaq Lindard to play. It's created 486 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: a problem. Nicholas Morro can't play. And then Christian Elias 487 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: was their starter last week against forty nine ers. They 488 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: cut him Wednesday to make room for Shaq Lenard. That 489 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: just shows you a guy who was actually more productive. 490 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: Moro I thought was the worst player on the field 491 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: defensively for the for the for the Eagles, he's likely 492 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: going to start now. They think that they might get 493 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: Cunningham him back in this game. They think he's dealing 494 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: with a hamstring injury. But if that's the if that 495 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: if he doesn't answer the bell, then you're gonna see 496 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: Moro and you're gonna see Lennard playing probably the majority 497 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: of the linebacker in this football game. 498 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: If you were having to make that decision for the offense, 499 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: with the Cowboys offense, how do you best exploit what 500 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: they're doing at linebacker? 501 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: Well, the problem is that, you know the thing is 502 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: with I know watching Shaq Lenard play, I know what 503 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 3: he could do. He's not going to get fooled. Moro, 504 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: you can absolutely fool you. You can get him to 505 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: go one way and then take the ball back the other. 506 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: You can manipulate him. Shack Linard doesn't let you manipulate 507 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: him like that. 508 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's too much of a veteran for Yeah. 509 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: He's not gonna let you. He's not going to look 510 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: at motion. And and that's what San Francisco does. They've 511 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: they've taken good linebackers and made them look foolish in space, 512 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 3: by the way, with their orbit motions, that's the motion 513 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: that goes around and then all the way around. 514 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 11: You know. 515 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: They they do things to kind of try and with you. 516 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: If Moro's playing, I'm doing everything in my power to 517 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: make him see the wrong things because he'll make a 518 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: mistake and he'll go the wrong way and then all 519 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: of a sudden he'll leave a vacant area there. I 520 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: don't know with Leonard if he would do that, but 521 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: and and having cutting him back would help them, but 522 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: they are they are clearly in trouble at one of 523 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 3: the linebacker spots. 524 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 6: With Moro plan, yeah, I'd say make these linebackers cover 525 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 6: and shack Leonard. You know, he has to ramp up. 526 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 6: We'll see if he even takes the field. And if 527 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 6: he does take the field, maybe a handful of snaps, 528 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 6: whatever the case may be, shack Leonard. Is he excels 529 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 6: at run defense, not so much in coverage though. And 530 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 6: then behind this linebacker Cord, which Brian will get to momentarily, 531 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 6: they have a secondary that struggles. So if you're talking 532 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 6: about pressing the linebacker corps, this is a game where 533 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 6: you revert back to setting up the run by virtue 534 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 6: of the pass. Go out and pass and first stretch 535 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 6: them horizontally. That could be on bubbles and those types 536 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 6: of screens, even if it's a handoff, but if it's 537 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 6: like a ceed lamb end around or Cavante turpin end 538 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 6: a round, make those linebackers play sideline the sideline and 539 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 6: just stretch them out, and that's what you do. And 540 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: over the course of a game they get more and 541 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 6: more fatigued, and then you know the secondary can't really 542 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 6: back them up as far as coverage is concerned. So 543 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 6: I think that's how you attack this linebacker corps. They 544 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 6: can They're going to be again, this is the same 545 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 6: Eagles defense, although personnel has changed. Their defensive line is 546 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 6: really good against stopping the run, and the linebackers aren't 547 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 6: poor stopping the run, and the shack Leonard are actually 548 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 6: good at stopping the run. But as far as coverage 549 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 6: is concerned, that's the liability for the Eagles linebackers. 550 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: They were really good the first two series of the game. 551 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 3: The Eagles came out on defense and they looked like 552 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: they had a good idea of how they were needed 553 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: to play and get that done. They got forty nine 554 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: ers off the field the first couple, and then all 555 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you get a Brandon and I you play, 556 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 3: you get a Christian McCaffrey play, And now all of 557 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: a sudden, it's they got them on their heels. You know, 558 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: they can't figure things out, and now all the motion 559 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: and things are making it even worse. But the first 560 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: two series of the game, you were thinking like, okay, 561 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: the Eagles have got this scene kind of they're on 562 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: a good path right now. And then things just really 563 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: really fell apart for him because again, they they they 564 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: lose when we talked about their secondary, they lose coverage. 565 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: Their guys in the secondary lose coverage. They lose men, 566 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: like I say, more of the linebacker loses this guy. 567 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: Next thing you know, McCaffrey's running wide open and it's 568 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: a huge play down the sidelines. You know, they they 569 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 3: they've they've had their problems when teams have been able 570 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: and the when they're when their edges haven't gotten home, 571 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: because the middle of their defense is really more about 572 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 3: power and strength and being bullies than it is pass rushers. 573 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 3: You know, if you can contain, if you can control 574 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 3: guys pushing on you and handle the edges, their defense 575 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: is in trouble because if they don't get if they 576 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: don't get the pressure, then their secondary has been just 577 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: you know, teams have feasted on them and and and 578 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 3: a lot of it has to do with some of 579 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: their best players. Darius Slay hasn't played the level he 580 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 3: has been in the past, and then James Bradbury has 581 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: been awful in a lot of situations, and so there's 582 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: a lot of separation. Uh, there's a there's there's guys 583 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: that are just open and they've dealt with some injuries. 584 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: They haven't figured out the nickel Eli Rix. Anytime you 585 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: see thirty nine on the field, the ball needs to 586 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: go to his direction. 587 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: Anytime pan a target on him, that's your target. 588 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: That's I'm just I'm just saying that, you know, and 589 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: I have a feeling the wrong. I have a feeling 590 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: they're going to try and get Darius slay on Lamb 591 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: as much as possible. 592 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'll take that match up. 593 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's the case, that's their best mention. No, 594 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: that is their best matchup. And if that's the case, 595 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 3: then now you need to wear them out with your 596 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 3: other guys. 597 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: Will they followed Would he follow him into the slot? 598 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: I don't think you will follow him into the slot. 599 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: Because because here's the other thing I noticed this. I 600 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: was looking at some numbers this season so far seeding 601 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: Lamb leads the NFL and receiving yards and touchdowns from 602 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: the slot, and Philly on the other hand, has allowed 603 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: the most yards from the slot with thirteen hundred and 604 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: fifty nine yards. It's one hundred and fifty eight more 605 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: yards than any other team from the slot. My thought is, 606 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: if you're trying to match him up, guess what I'm 607 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: gonna put him in the slot. It's loot as much 608 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: as possible, especially if you're telling me this guy at 609 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: thirty nine is going to be the one who's gonna 610 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: be lined up across from him. Yeah, guess what is 611 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: gonna be a slot day for Ceedee Lamb And let's go. 612 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: You know, they they've they've really struggled and they and 613 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 3: their safety read blanket ship is they think he's a 614 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 3: good player. Uh, you know, he's got two interceptions at safety, 615 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: but he's given up the second most touchdowns. So you know, 616 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 3: now is this his game for Ferguson? How do they 617 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: match up with him? His blanket ship going to be 618 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: encouraged with him? You got I think you've got several options. 619 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: You need to figure out the right tackle spot, help 620 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: him as much as you can, and then Dak let 621 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: him go to work on this secondary because the receivers. 622 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: These receivers can definitely get open against these guys. 623 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 6: And the good news for the Cowboys is you It's 624 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 6: often said that it's a copycat league, but just because 625 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 6: someone show the blueprint doesn't mean that you have the 626 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 6: same twos in your tubox to be able to build 627 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 6: that what they built. But the Cowboys and seeing what 628 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 6: the blueprint was from phil from the forty nine ers 629 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 6: versus Philadelphia, the Cowboys have that's the same. Yeah, the 630 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 6: Cowboys have those horses on offense as well. And now 631 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 6: they've really leaned into that pre snap motion as we've 632 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 6: talked about, because the last two weeks they've had, you know, 633 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 6: two weeks of consecutive season highs in pre snap motion 634 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 6: over seventy percent both times. So Brian pointed this out 635 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 6: very astute. The San Francisco forty nine ers, they were 636 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 6: able to use Christian McCaffrey, brand and I to get 637 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 6: them off balance and then it was just an on 638 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 6: slot of pre snap motion. Cowboys can and will do 639 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 6: the exact same thing. So credit to them for having 640 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 6: that leverage against the Philadelphia defense that just automatically doesn't 641 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 6: cover well. And then now you start moving people around 642 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 6: and making them think and making them guess. That just 643 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 6: makes it more difficult for them. Also a secondary in 644 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 6: Philly three thousand, roughly thirty three hundred passing yards allowed. 645 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 6: We talked about this yesterday, twenty seven touchdowns allowed. I mean, 646 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 6: their league worst in one of those categories, behind only 647 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 6: the Washington Commander's Defense, and they're tied with the Commander's 648 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 6: Defense four league worst in another one of those categories, 649 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 6: and roughly thirteen fourteen hundred yards are basically on yach 650 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 6: So you can, if you can get the ball in 651 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 6: playmaker's hands, you can get this Philadelphia defense on their 652 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 6: heels and really just reeling over the course of four quarters. 653 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is you know when you it was and 654 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: it's just so clear watching the play that's the struggles 655 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: that they have, and you're like and you're thinking, like, man, 656 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: this is supposed to be a really good defense, and 657 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: they're really not. I mean, they struggle in a lot 658 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: of areas. 659 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: The one thing they can do they can stop the 660 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: run and they can rush your passer. Outside of that, 661 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: behind that is bad. 662 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 6: They're fourth worst in the NFL in passer rating allowed 663 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 6: at just under ninety nine. Their secondary is just a 664 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 6: meal to be had. 665 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: When you go back, I remember, you know, going back 666 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: and watching the game, there's things you forget. Dak did 667 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: a great job even when the pass rush got home 668 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: of escaping and then finding Lamb along the sidelines, finding 669 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 3: ferguson wide. I mean there were when Dak has been 670 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: able to escape. Man, he has made some really really 671 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: good throws against these guys. So you know, hopefully he 672 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: won't have to do a lot of escaping. Hopefully a 673 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: lot of stuff will be from the pocket that they 674 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: got that thing taken care of, and he can he 675 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: can work from there. 676 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 6: And Derek, you talk about how can you apply pressure 677 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 6: and stress out those linebackers. 678 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: Dak in his. 679 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: Legs, Yeah, Deck and his legs he ran in the 680 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: game last. 681 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 6: Absolutely if dek in jist that as another option for 682 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 6: the Cowboys, that's something else the linebackers have to worry about. 683 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 6: And they're just not designed in Philadelphia to handle all 684 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 6: of those particular weapons and threats. So Cowboys offense is 685 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 6: cooking and firing on all cylinders for a reason. 686 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: All right, let's take our final Breakley, we'll come back, 687 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: and that question for you guys about Michael Gallup. I 688 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: started looking at some of his snap counts. Le's decline 689 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: quite a bit here as the season is going on. 690 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you a little bit about 691 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: that will do when come back Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 692 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 9: Tod thought it would be sure to jog in the 693 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 9: cheatah Savannah. Todd believed the big Cat repellent he bought 694 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 9: online was reliable. 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Slash Camps Welcome Back. 738 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: It is the final segment of The Break, live from 739 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. I had a 740 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: question for you guys. I was looking at Michael Gallups 741 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: snap counts over the season. Check this out. In weeks 742 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: one through six, he was averaging forty four point seven 743 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 2: snaps per game. That's second on the team behind Cede Lamb. 744 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: Cooks was a little bit under him at forty four, 745 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 2: so they were about equal at that time. Since then, 746 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: starting week eight through thirteen, that would be after the bye, 747 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: through the last game, he's only been averaging thirty snaps 748 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: per game. Down about fourteen snaps per game. That has 749 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: him third on the team, tied with Jalen Tolbert, and 750 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: Cooks is up a little bit to forty nine point three. Essentially, 751 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: everybody below him has increased their number of snaps, including Brooks. 752 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: All of them have increased their number of snaps per game, 753 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: and Gallup has dropped pretty significantly. Do you think that's 754 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: more about the fact that they want to get more 755 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: guys involved, or do you think that's more about the 756 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: fact that they were not happy necessarily with what they're 757 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 2: getting from Gallup. 758 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 6: I think you could argue that it was a combination 759 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 6: of the two. But outside of Gallop lighting the field 760 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 6: on fire like Ceedie Lamb was doing, the inevitable plan 761 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 6: was to get Jayleen Tobert involved more if no one else, 762 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 6: to get Cavante Turpin involved more if no one else. So, 763 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 6: because the Cowboys knew going into this season they were 764 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 6: going to want to get Turpin involved more, they were 765 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 6: going to have to get Cooks his looks, they were 766 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 6: going to have to get Jaylen Tobart his looks. That 767 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 6: that means it was inevitable that you would see a 768 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 6: downturn in Michael Gallup's snap count, and then the question 769 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 6: was simply what would Gallup do with the opportunities he 770 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 6: was given. And it's been an up and down affair, 771 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 6: more up lately than down, So kudos to him for 772 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 6: kind of being resilient in that aspect. But yeah, but 773 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 6: when they were the down moments, then of course that 774 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 6: then shifts more reps over to guys like Turpin who's 775 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 6: been producing, Tobert who's coming through in critical situations like 776 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 6: the seventeen yard reception, that's helping out your quarterback. That's 777 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 6: going to earn you more reps going forward. So I 778 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 6: wouldn't put too much stock in them having any thoughts 779 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 6: of at the moment being over quote unquote Michael Gallup 780 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 6: as much as it is because he's started playing well, 781 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 6: he's kind of on a consistent trend of you know, 782 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 6: he's not lighting the field on fire, but he's doing 783 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 6: what he needs to do when the ball comes his way, 784 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 6: critical possession receptions and things like that. But when you're 785 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 6: trying to get Tobert involved, and you got to keep 786 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 6: Turping involved because he's earned that, something's got to give. 787 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, you do have a lot of different weapons that 788 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 7: you want to keep active. Yeah, for sure that you 789 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 7: do want to keep active and give them something you 790 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 7: know you don't, so you can have different looks to 791 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 7: show at different times depending who you're playing. But with Gallup, 792 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,959 Speaker 7: I'll be honest, like, sometimes he be he has become 793 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 7: forgettable and that's not something good. And the times that 794 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 7: I do remember and we've talked about it, like he 795 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 7: has those moments that Okay, he's playing bad and not 796 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 7: catching the ball, not doing much, and then all of 797 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 7: a sudden he makes a really good play. You're like, okay, 798 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 7: yes that's why, there we go. But yeah, here we go. 799 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 7: But it doesn't happen very often. And I do agree 800 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 7: with him improving, but it's just not enough when you 801 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 7: do have other guys that are making bigger plays. I 802 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 7: think they've given him plenty of chances, and sometimes he 803 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 7: works out sometimes it doesn't. 804 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 4: But I do. 805 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 7: See the reasoning in the decline, because even I keep 806 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 7: forgetting that game where it seemed they kept forcing the 807 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 7: ball against the Chargers where he just seemed forced, and 808 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 7: I was like, okay, why why, Like sometimes a single 809 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 7: player has a bad game and it's okay, it happens 810 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 7: to everybody, but just like you can look the other 811 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 7: way and keep attacking somebody else. So it's it's I 812 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 7: don't know. I I saw it come in eventually. But 813 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 7: at the same time, I'm glad that there are a 814 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 7: lot more guys being involved and finding success in that, 815 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 7: and with Michael Galla being able to still have some 816 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 7: involvement in there as well. 817 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he threw a really good block in the fourth 818 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 3: and one play the other day. That kind of it's 819 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 3: sprung Pollard to get the first down, and so he 820 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 3: hasn't lost interest in trying to do what he's when 821 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 3: he's on the field. 822 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 2: Which is consistent with his person Yeah, it was very consistent. 823 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 3: He's just getting done Tobert, I think that, you know, 824 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 3: he's starting to show some things with his ability to 825 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: be on the field to block as well his route running. Uh, 826 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 3: this is a difficult offense, I believe for my Gallup 827 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: because I don't think he's a great route runner, and 828 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: I think he struggles to get off the line. They 829 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 3: have these now. The way the offense is, it's really 830 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 3: relying on combinations of receivers running routes and working with 831 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 3: tight ends. So all of a sudden, though, you get 832 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 3: cooks Lamb and Ferguson all together to run a route, 833 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 3: it's two outs and a seam and now it's a touchdown, 834 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: you know, and so you're you're using different combinations of 835 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: receivers and the tight ends to create separation for each other. 836 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 3: And I think it's been a little bit of a 837 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 3: problem for Gallup when he's part of the combination group. 838 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: Maybe his route isn't as good, maybe it is not 839 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: as at depth, maybe it's not finishing. You know, those 840 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 3: are the things that you kind of deal with. And 841 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 3: they're saying, well, if we're going to if we're going 842 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 3: to attack people, we want to run this route combination. Okay, 843 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 3: we got to go with you know, these guys that 844 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 3: we know can can get it done. And I think 845 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 3: that's where it's kind of but to his credit and 846 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 3: I'm meant before, he hasn't lost interest and he's still 847 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 3: trying to do anything that they ask him to do. 848 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: And that's that's really where you're at. And that's a decision. 849 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 3: It's probably going to have to be made at the 850 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 3: end of the end of the season, especially with the 851 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 3: emergencies emergence of Cooks and then Tolbert uh and even 852 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 3: Brooks playing some too. Yeah, you know that's going to 853 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 3: be a question you're gonna have to answer at the 854 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: end of it. 855 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 7: But I see it's Tolbert kind of the same way 856 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 7: as Gallops sometimes as far as like the consistency aspect 857 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 7: of it, where Tolbert he will have some really good plays, 858 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 7: but then all of a sudden he doesn't. So it's 859 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 7: just I see them kind of both having the same 860 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 7: as far as consistency because they play very differently. But 861 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 7: as far as the results and all that, I think 862 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 7: the fact that Tolbert is the younger guy, the newer 863 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 7: guy that they did draft and brought in, I think 864 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 7: that kind of gives them more Yeah, yeah, that gives 865 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 7: them more reason as to why keep getting him, giving 866 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 7: him more playing time. 867 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: I will say this, and this is a knock on anyone, 868 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 2: but if given the opportunity, I am a firm believer 869 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: that Brooks will be every bit as good as any 870 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: of those receivers that are not the top two receivers 871 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: on this roster. Right now, I think that guy watching 872 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 2: him in training camp, watching the opportunity he's at with 873 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: the Cowboys in South Carolina, Yeah, he's one of those guys. 874 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 2: If the balls in his in his area. He's gonna 875 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 2: catch it, he's coming down with it, and he makes 876 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 2: the play. I really am excited about what can be 877 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: expected from him in the future. And I do think 878 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: that that's going to shake up that that part of 879 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: the roster. When we start looking at these wide receivers, 880 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: they better be aware of Jalen Brooks. He's a he's 881 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: a significant player. He's going to be a player in 882 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 2: this league. 883 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 6: And for him to be a rookie, He's not deer 884 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 6: in the headlights. 885 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 886 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 6: That game that Turpin was inactive and Brooks was brought up, 887 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 6: he went out there and had that three critical receptions 888 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 6: in like thirty three yards and okay, and they kept 889 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 6: him active the next week. So to your point, I 890 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 6: mean he when he's thrown on the on center stage, 891 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 6: all he sees is ball. Oh, he sees his football. 892 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 6: He's not his knees aren't shaking. I mean he's out 893 00:41:59,640 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 6: there to play. 894 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we appreciate you guys, Jones. 895 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow. 896 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap this thing up. Let you know who 897 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 2: we think is gonna win this game and what we 898 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,479 Speaker 2: think the score is gonna be till then for Patrick Walker, 899 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 2: Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagleton. This 900 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 2: has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 901 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 902 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboy