1
00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:20,479
Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

2
00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,720
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is Wes Hodkawitz. We're

3
00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,880
Speaker 1: coming to you here from our studios at lambeau Field

4
00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,000
Speaker 1: and West. Day one of the NFL Draft is in

5
00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,640
Speaker 1: the books, and as they say, you just never know

6
00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,400
Speaker 1: how these things are gonna go. What a Thursday night

7
00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,760
Speaker 1: for the first round of the NFL Draft. What were

8
00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,640
Speaker 1: your impressions? First and foremost, everyone loves to do their

9
00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,440
Speaker 1: mock drafts when they get really fancy and they start trading.

10
00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,879
Speaker 1: Show me one mock draft that had the Packers trading

11
00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,880
Speaker 1: back from fourteen and then up to eighteen. You never

12
00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,360
Speaker 1: see those mocks. But that's the you know, the reality

13
00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,200
Speaker 1: of drafts, and the Packers to be able to do

14
00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,800
Speaker 1: that much flux suation. They end up and we'll talk

15
00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,280
Speaker 1: about this in a second, they end up gaining a

16
00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,080
Speaker 1: first round pick next year, an extra one from the

17
00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,640
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, and still end up with the field

18
00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,000
Speaker 1: that they feel a player that they feel has comparable value.

19
00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,000
Speaker 1: And jaire Alexander the Louisville cornerback. I think Brian Goodkins

20
00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,120
Speaker 1: for his first night on the job, as GM in

21
00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,560
Speaker 1: terms of the draft, I was pretty happy with what

22
00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,320
Speaker 1: the Packers walked away with. Yeah, he seemed pretty excited,

23
00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,440
Speaker 1: not only to be able to add Alexander and a cornerback.

24
00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,679
Speaker 1: The Packers obviously thought very highly of the second pure

25
00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,360
Speaker 1: cornerback to go off the board, the fourth defensive back

26
00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,520
Speaker 1: to be taken there at the eighteenth pick, but then

27
00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,360
Speaker 1: to be adding a first round pick in en. Now,

28
00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,880
Speaker 1: the way he described it to us afterwards when he

29
00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,160
Speaker 1: met with the media was he was, you know, exploring

30
00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,520
Speaker 1: some trade possibilities of moving up from fourteen. You know,

31
00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,040
Speaker 1: in the early stages of the draft, nothing really came

32
00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,520
Speaker 1: together there. Then it was Okay, am I gonna sit

33
00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,720
Speaker 1: and pick at fourteen? Or am I gonna move back?

34
00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,120
Speaker 1: I think they were probably ready to sit and pick.

35
00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,880
Speaker 1: But then when that offer came of a first round

36
00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,400
Speaker 1: draft pick for next year, that's going to give any

37
00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,400
Speaker 1: general manager pause. You've got to stop and really think

38
00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,000
Speaker 1: about that. And uh and he basically said it was

39
00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,519
Speaker 1: just it's too good an opportunity to pass up. Yeah.

40
00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,280
Speaker 1: And when you look at the numbers of this thing, Mike,

41
00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,119
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact of the matter is the Packers

42
00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,040
Speaker 1: got the first round pick seven overall from the Saints. Traditionally,

43
00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,320
Speaker 1: I think you end up acquiring a second rounder, but

44
00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,040
Speaker 1: since the Saints were so far back, they had to

45
00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,600
Speaker 1: bring more in order to make this deal happen. So

46
00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,519
Speaker 1: they offer up their first round pick for twenty nine.

47
00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,799
Speaker 1: And it is interesting. I ran the math. If you

48
00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,399
Speaker 1: go off the draft value chart the Packers for this

49
00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,840
Speaker 1: year alone, the Saints come up. I think it was

50
00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,359
Speaker 1: seven points ahead. But next year, the worst that that

51
00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,919
Speaker 1: picks value could be. Let's say the Saints would win,

52
00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,680
Speaker 1: win it all right, and their thirty second, thirty second

53
00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,799
Speaker 1: that value pick is five and ninety. The difference between five,

54
00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,720
Speaker 1: three eight seven basically a high third round pick. So

55
00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,600
Speaker 1: at the very least, that's the advance image for which

56
00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,880
Speaker 1: the Packers are getting, and then any spot up from

57
00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,440
Speaker 1: that only adds more to it. Um it is. I'm

58
00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,920
Speaker 1: sure it was very tempting. You know, Derwin James was

59
00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,320
Speaker 1: still on the board, Tremaine Edmonds still on the board,

60
00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport, who the Saints ended up drafting, was still

61
00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,640
Speaker 1: on the board. But in those days leading up to

62
00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,000
Speaker 1: the draft, Mike, you heard some rumblings that the Packers

63
00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,040
Speaker 1: might potentially be interested in Alexander. He was a guy

64
00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,600
Speaker 1: that I think, coming off of the year that he

65
00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,600
Speaker 1: had being banged up at Louisville, some people really weren't

66
00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,040
Speaker 1: sure if he was gonna be a first round pick.

67
00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,040
Speaker 1: But four point three eight speed in the forty denzil Ward,

68
00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,160
Speaker 1: who went fourth overall to the Browns, was four point

69
00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,080
Speaker 1: three to um not the tallest cornerback you're ever gonna find,

70
00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,680
Speaker 1: but he plays bigger than that. And at the end

71
00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,320
Speaker 1: of the day, the Packers need to playmaker and this

72
00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,240
Speaker 1: is a versatile guy that can play inside or outside

73
00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,480
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, it's really interesting how this played out

74
00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,960
Speaker 1: because earlier in the week we were both talking and

75
00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,920
Speaker 1: as we made our predictions, for whatever those were worth,

76
00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,920
Speaker 1: but both of us essentially predicted that the Packers in

77
00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,520
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, would get one of those

78
00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,480
Speaker 1: top read dbs in the group being Denzel Ward, think

79
00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,400
Speaker 1: of Fitzpatrick or Derwin James. And as it turns out,

80
00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,720
Speaker 1: the Packers did get a defensive back, and they did

81
00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,960
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to take Derwin James. But really with

82
00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,800
Speaker 1: Goodakoots making the moves that he did to trade out

83
00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,839
Speaker 1: of the fourteen spot and go down and then come

84
00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,920
Speaker 1: back up to eighteen. He basically declared that you know Alexander,

85
00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,640
Speaker 1: he had they had Alexander rated essentially an equivalent player

86
00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,680
Speaker 1: to Tremaine, Edmunds, Derwin James, maybe Marcus Davenport, that if

87
00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,560
Speaker 1: they look at their board and they've got equivalent value there.

88
00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,400
Speaker 1: And essentially he gave up a third round pick to

89
00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,960
Speaker 1: Seattle to move back up to the eighteenth spot. So

90
00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,839
Speaker 1: he moved back four spots in a net of the

91
00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,160
Speaker 1: two trades, gives up a third round pick this year,

92
00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,040
Speaker 1: but gains a first rounder next year and gets the

93
00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,680
Speaker 1: number two cornerback off the board. He really can't ask

94
00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,360
Speaker 1: for it to fall any better. There are two different

95
00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,680
Speaker 1: varying avenues in which I look in you this this

96
00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,920
Speaker 1: trade through. The first one is and I I talked

97
00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,760
Speaker 1: about this an insider impact, so I'm sure you read

98
00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,200
Speaker 1: it this past week. I was really interested to see

99
00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,320
Speaker 1: if a scenario would play out where it wasn't just

100
00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,720
Speaker 1: one of one player that the Packers could potentially take

101
00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,240
Speaker 1: at fourteen, that two or three of them are available.

102
00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,080
Speaker 1: And that's so that's what I continued to say too.

103
00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,640
Speaker 1: I thought he would somehow, some way it would happen

104
00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,080
Speaker 1: where he'd have some options there at fourteen, and it

105
00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,520
Speaker 1: did happen that way because the four quarterbacks went. Mike

106
00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,839
Speaker 1: McGlinchey went number nine, the offensive tackle that pushed those

107
00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,560
Speaker 1: some of those defensive guys down, and he did have choices.

108
00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,159
Speaker 1: And the reason I really wanted to see it is

109
00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,760
Speaker 1: because we can talk until we're blew in the face

110
00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,960
Speaker 1: about who the Packers should pick, but ultimately that's the

111
00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,960
Speaker 1: only opportunity for us to ever look into the mind

112
00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,520
Speaker 1: of Brian Goodacuins and see what exactly the Packers were thinking.

113
00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,880
Speaker 1: Because if Edmonds isn't on the board, and James isn't

114
00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,200
Speaker 1: on the board, uh, if Davenport's not there, certainly the

115
00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,960
Speaker 1: names changed and you have to figure some stuff out.

116
00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,120
Speaker 1: But it tells you that the Packers viewed Alexander in

117
00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,679
Speaker 1: the same area, the same stratosphere as those other players,

118
00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,520
Speaker 1: and they were able to move back and acquire another

119
00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,960
Speaker 1: first round pick in order to do that. The other

120
00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,919
Speaker 1: thing that stands out to me, you and I both

121
00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,000
Speaker 1: put a lot of emphasis on these two defensive backs,

122
00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,039
Speaker 1: Derwin James and make Offense Patrick from Alabama. The one

123
00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,080
Speaker 1: thing I like about Alexander, though he does have experience

124
00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,160
Speaker 1: in the slot, and last year he played the boundary.

125
00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,279
Speaker 1: Boundary cornerbacks can play the slot, Safeties can play the slot,

126
00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,799
Speaker 1: but you don't see a lot of safeties hybrid defensive

127
00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,760
Speaker 1: backs that can play boundary cornerbacks outside. And when you

128
00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,920
Speaker 1: look at this situation, now we've being able to bring

129
00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,920
Speaker 1: Alexander and he gives Joe Wit in that secondary that

130
00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,880
Speaker 1: kind of flexibility. Yeah, well, I want to get into

131
00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,880
Speaker 1: some more details about Gyrie Um Sorry year Alexander will

132
00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,560
Speaker 1: do that after the breakback with more and Packers Unscripted

133
00:06:43,600 --> 00:07:04,160
Speaker 1: right after this, Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford

134
00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,679
Speaker 1: in this chair, West, hodkit wits in that one. Okay, West.

135
00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,640
Speaker 1: So the Packers trade back thirteen spots, trade up nine

136
00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,120
Speaker 1: for a net move before and they take Jayar Alexander

137
00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,120
Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Louisville. And when you look at

138
00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,760
Speaker 1: the measurables, four point three eight is the number that

139
00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,840
Speaker 1: jumps out at me. That's some speed, and that's the

140
00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,400
Speaker 1: kind of speed that can't be coached. It's it's one

141
00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,000
Speaker 1: of those god given type of things. And this is

142
00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,120
Speaker 1: a guy who is going to add some speed to

143
00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense need for speed. Uh, and he certainly

144
00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,120
Speaker 1: fits the bill in that regard and he uses it

145
00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,920
Speaker 1: to to his advantage. I thought. Director of college Scouting,

146
00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,320
Speaker 1: John Eric Sullivan, came down after the pick was made

147
00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,240
Speaker 1: and mentioned he didn't want to draw comparisons between Alexander

148
00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,840
Speaker 1: and Sam Shields. But the one thing he did mention

149
00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,640
Speaker 1: that and you go back and it was the number

150
00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,000
Speaker 1: one thing that Sam Shields did, especially early in his

151
00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,480
Speaker 1: career when he was still working on his technique, was

152
00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,240
Speaker 1: the recovery speed, the ability to close on a receiver.

153
00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,400
Speaker 1: Alexander possesses that, and he plays with a certain swagger

154
00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,880
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, he is a nasty streak um

155
00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,680
Speaker 1: and he plays within the rules. I'm not trying to,

156
00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, say anything other than that, but he definitely

157
00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,160
Speaker 1: rises up to the occasion. You can just tell how

158
00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,000
Speaker 1: much that motivates him. Even last year, you know, battling

159
00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,280
Speaker 1: through the knee injury to get back and to play

160
00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,240
Speaker 1: in six games and make five starts for Louisville. He's

161
00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,760
Speaker 1: a gamer, and he's a guy that went there as

162
00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,520
Speaker 1: a walk on, not a walk on, but you know,

163
00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,880
Speaker 1: it kind of looking like he was gonna play receiver.

164
00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,760
Speaker 1: He said, he ended up moving to cornerback because they

165
00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,640
Speaker 1: just had three guys that had left. There was opportunity there.

166
00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,200
Speaker 1: Played right away from the get go, played the slot,

167
00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,680
Speaker 1: played the boundary, and with having speed like that, I

168
00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,040
Speaker 1: think that is ultimately what enables you as a defensive back. That,

169
00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,360
Speaker 1: especially in those early years when maybe you're still trying

170
00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,920
Speaker 1: to find yourself and find what you do well, it

171
00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,040
Speaker 1: gives you a larger room for error. Yeah, and this

172
00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,920
Speaker 1: is a player that that the Packers, you know, I

173
00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,360
Speaker 1: should say he would have liked his seventeen season to

174
00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,800
Speaker 1: go better. You mentioned the knee injury they had cost

175
00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,000
Speaker 1: him about half the season. You look back to he

176
00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,320
Speaker 1: played every game in or scepted five passes. Um he uh,

177
00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,000
Speaker 1: the Packers did not have any injury concerns, having watched

178
00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,560
Speaker 1: the film from the end of when he came back

179
00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,600
Speaker 1: and going through all of the workouts and everything like that,

180
00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,319
Speaker 1: and and and really the Packers kept there, kept their

181
00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,439
Speaker 1: interest in him somewhat quiet. I know, he he said, well,

182
00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,800
Speaker 1: I never talked to anybody from the Packers. That wasn't

183
00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,800
Speaker 1: exactly true. But the Packers were not uh, um, you know,

184
00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,200
Speaker 1: we're not overly uh you know, open about about their

185
00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,240
Speaker 1: interest or you know, their intentions here, so they were

186
00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,280
Speaker 1: able to keep it fairly quiet. And uh and Brian

187
00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,640
Speaker 1: Goodakun's got a guy that he really likes. Thing I

188
00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,240
Speaker 1: love the most about it is Good said afterwards too,

189
00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,400
Speaker 1: He's like, we were watching this guy from the beginning,

190
00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,120
Speaker 1: and they followed up with him at the combine just

191
00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,000
Speaker 1: seeing how he was gonna look coming off that kne

192
00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,480
Speaker 1: injury and the fact he ran a fourth three a

193
00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,960
Speaker 1: forty tells you I think he's gonna be okay in

194
00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,280
Speaker 1: the long run. He mentioned it was a bone bruise

195
00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,880
Speaker 1: that he was diagnosed with. It happened on I blocked

196
00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,920
Speaker 1: field goal recovery, I believe, he said. He said he

197
00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,760
Speaker 1: hyper extended. Yeah, so, and you know that ended up

198
00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,960
Speaker 1: costing him four games. He ended up sitting out of

199
00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,400
Speaker 1: their bowl game just to be cautious at the end

200
00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,920
Speaker 1: of the season. But what a player in terms of

201
00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,480
Speaker 1: just being able to be able to do what he

202
00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,720
Speaker 1: did in that time at Louisville. Only played in thirty

203
00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,360
Speaker 1: one collegiate games. He declared as a true junior um.

204
00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,080
Speaker 1: So you're getting a guy that's a little bit on

205
00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,720
Speaker 1: the younger side of things, but you know, he mentioned it.

206
00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't know a whole lot about Green Bay. He

207
00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,840
Speaker 1: knows it gets a little bit chilly in the wintertime,

208
00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,440
Speaker 1: but he did say, I mean, the track record speaks

209
00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,880
Speaker 1: for itself. You look at Charles Woodson and Nick Collins

210
00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,600
Speaker 1: and the guys that have come through that room. He's

211
00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,839
Speaker 1: really relishing that opportunity now to come in there and

212
00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,240
Speaker 1: show that he belongs. Yeah. And I had done a

213
00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,760
Speaker 1: prospect primer on Alexander for our website, you know, when

214
00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,600
Speaker 1: we came back from the combine and had all of

215
00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,679
Speaker 1: those prospects to sift through, and and the one thing

216
00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,040
Speaker 1: that stood out to me that was really funny from

217
00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,840
Speaker 1: his combine interview, his his press conference there when when

218
00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,400
Speaker 1: we went back through everything was um that his teamates

219
00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,480
Speaker 1: started calling him Alexander Island because because of you know,

220
00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,040
Speaker 1: they could just leave him one on one shut down,

221
00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, the top receiver, you know, the guy on

222
00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,080
Speaker 1: one side of the field. And uh, he was somewhat

223
00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, flattered, a little bit humbled by by getting

224
00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,200
Speaker 1: that name, that that nickname from his teammates. But he's

225
00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,960
Speaker 1: the guy who who seems to you know, to take

226
00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,040
Speaker 1: that kind of a moniker and feed off it. You know,

227
00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,400
Speaker 1: he's not he's not afraid to try to get into

228
00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,680
Speaker 1: a receiver's head, you know, to play the jawing game

229
00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,600
Speaker 1: out on the field, you know that that kind of thing.

230
00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see what what this guy can

231
00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,199
Speaker 1: do now. I mean, the NFL can be the most

232
00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,520
Speaker 1: humbling league in the world for any young player, but

233
00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,679
Speaker 1: this is a this is a player not lacking for

234
00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,200
Speaker 1: confidence by any stress. Yeah, and he doesn't shy away

235
00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,760
Speaker 1: from the moment either, he said, you know, he's seen

236
00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,760
Speaker 1: plenty of six, four, six, five receivers in the a

237
00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,720
Speaker 1: SEC and he wants to step up to that challenge

238
00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,839
Speaker 1: and believes he's ready for it. The other thing, it's

239
00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,200
Speaker 1: interesting too, Mike. You mentioned the five interceptions he had

240
00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,920
Speaker 1: his sophomore year. Uh, this wasn't against you know, cupcake

241
00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,560
Speaker 1: type quarterbacks either. Two of those were against Deshaun Watson.

242
00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, this is a guy that has done

243
00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,120
Speaker 1: it against the very best, not only in college football

244
00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,800
Speaker 1: but now the NFL. So I think, and you go

245
00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,840
Speaker 1: back and I saw some of the videos already of

246
00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,800
Speaker 1: him in some of the plays he made, and in

247
00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,240
Speaker 1: this kind of banter after the play as well, Uh,

248
00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of confidence in young man, and that

249
00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,800
Speaker 1: is I think, other than probably quarterback, that's the one

250
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,000
Speaker 1: position where you need to be confident. Yeah. Well, we've

251
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,400
Speaker 1: got more to talk about from this first round of

252
00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,200
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. Back with more on Packers Unscripted right

253
00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:45,480
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here,

254
00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,720
Speaker 1: Wes Hodko, it's all the way over there, So okay,

255
00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,240
Speaker 1: West the Packers. They got a little bit more than

256
00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,439
Speaker 1: just a cornerback here in this draft, and Alexander is

257
00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,920
Speaker 1: a good one, but they also got a guy who's

258
00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,719
Speaker 1: done some things in the punt return and a guy

259
00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,160
Speaker 1: who not right away maybe, but later on down the road,

260
00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,800
Speaker 1: can be one of these locker room leader types. He's

261
00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,040
Speaker 1: a team captain and whatnot at Louisville. A lot of

262
00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,040
Speaker 1: good things that we heard about his character and what

263
00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,839
Speaker 1: his teammates and coaches and whatnot have said about him. Um,

264
00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, really kind of this guy looks like he

265
00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,199
Speaker 1: kind of brings the brings the whole package. Yeah, I mean,

266
00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,480
Speaker 1: first off, starting just quickly touched on the team captain

267
00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,200
Speaker 1: side of things. I thought that was one of the

268
00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,240
Speaker 1: things that you know, John Eric Sullivan when he was

269
00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,280
Speaker 1: talking with the media mentioned is the fact that he's

270
00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,440
Speaker 1: kind of an outgoing, fun loving guy. I mean, look

271
00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,280
Speaker 1: at the photos of him and in Dallas with his

272
00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,880
Speaker 1: family everybody. I mean, he was he was enjoying the moment,

273
00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,199
Speaker 1: reveling in the moment. And then you know, had a teammate,

274
00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,240
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, who ends up getting taken at the end

275
00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,800
Speaker 1: of the first round too, so big night for them,

276
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,720
Speaker 1: and you could just see he really appreciated. Uh, you know,

277
00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,960
Speaker 1: he had the confidence, Mike to go down to Dallas

278
00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,360
Speaker 1: and you know it's gonna say, I'm gonna be a

279
00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,800
Speaker 1: first round pick. I'm gonna walk across that stage. And

280
00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,800
Speaker 1: that was no guarantee. Based on the analysts and the projections,

281
00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,560
Speaker 1: there was no guarantee he was going to be a

282
00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,960
Speaker 1: first round but but it paid off. But he's certain

283
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,280
Speaker 1: he did. And when you look at the skill set though,

284
00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,920
Speaker 1: it makes a complete sense. You know, Brian Goodacuns drafted

285
00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,079
Speaker 1: this kid because they think he can be a lockdown

286
00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,480
Speaker 1: type player, whether they're using him in the slot or

287
00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,840
Speaker 1: the boundary where he's playing, He's going to be one

288
00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,320
Speaker 1: of those top eleven defensive players that we always talk

289
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,800
Speaker 1: about when the packers are charting out their their depth

290
00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,680
Speaker 1: chart in their packages. But he does give you something

291
00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,440
Speaker 1: as a punt returner, and that was a small part

292
00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,320
Speaker 1: of the whole little package that that I think Brian

293
00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,360
Speaker 1: Goodakunst and everyone liked. I think it was forty four

294
00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,400
Speaker 1: punt returns in college, average just under ten yards a

295
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,360
Speaker 1: punt return, and had one brought back for a touchdown.

296
00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,280
Speaker 1: It appeared as if he was going to do that

297
00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,440
Speaker 1: again during his junior year, but because he ends up

298
00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,440
Speaker 1: sustaining the knee injury when he came back, they did

299
00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,320
Speaker 1: not put him back on that that group. But you

300
00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,360
Speaker 1: know early on Mike, you gotta find ways to get involved.

301
00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,600
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb did it in two thousand eleven. I thought

302
00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,280
Speaker 1: Time Montgomery did it in two thousand and fifteen as

303
00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,360
Speaker 1: both a returner and also you know, blocking some punts

304
00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,280
Speaker 1: as well. Uh. He gives you that kind of versatility.

305
00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,840
Speaker 1: And when you're when you have so many defensive backs

306
00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,640
Speaker 1: in this equation, I mean, there are fourteen guys returning

307
00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,480
Speaker 1: right now on this roster with NFL experience, you have

308
00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,680
Speaker 1: to find ways to make yourself valuable from day one,

309
00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,880
Speaker 1: and I think that's another thing that Alexander does. Yeah,

310
00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,160
Speaker 1: and when you look down the road, obviously the Packers

311
00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,480
Speaker 1: have used their first pick in the draft now the

312
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,760
Speaker 1: last two years on these young cornerbacks and Kevin King

313
00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,120
Speaker 1: and now Alexander. I know, Tremont Williams, Devon House are

314
00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,000
Speaker 1: here right now for the Packers and they're going to

315
00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,080
Speaker 1: play into girl roles in eighteen. But when you're looking

316
00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,800
Speaker 1: down the road, if the future is King and Alexander

317
00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,560
Speaker 1: as your top two cornerbacks, you kind of like that

318
00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,480
Speaker 1: combination because King is six three, you know, the taller,

319
00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,880
Speaker 1: got the length and all of that, and then Alexander

320
00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,400
Speaker 1: only five eleven but has that four three eight speed

321
00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,000
Speaker 1: that allows him to to potentially match up in in

322
00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,800
Speaker 1: some different situations. It looks like it could be a

323
00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,320
Speaker 1: really good combination for the future of this defense. I

324
00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,640
Speaker 1: remember talking to Jimmy Lake, the defensive backs coach for

325
00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,960
Speaker 1: Kevin King at Washington actually now I believe is their

326
00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,280
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator last year, and he said, this is a

327
00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,680
Speaker 1: guy that could play inside. He could play outside for you,

328
00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,720
Speaker 1: but when you're six three and you run in the

329
00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,640
Speaker 1: fourth fours, you want that guy up against des Bryant

330
00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,600
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and those top receivers that we saw last

331
00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,440
Speaker 1: year when he was healthy. He is your prototypical press

332
00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,920
Speaker 1: man corner. You look at now, conversely, what Alexander does well.

333
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,000
Speaker 1: He has history operating in a single high scheme and

334
00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,720
Speaker 1: cover three looks, and it sounds like he has the

335
00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,720
Speaker 1: strength to be able to challenge guys at the line

336
00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,960
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. But because of that size and that explosiveness

337
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000
Speaker 1: and the word we just kept over hearing over and

338
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,120
Speaker 1: over again, and you know, Johnny Rick Sullivan told you

339
00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,360
Speaker 1: it as well. And one of the post uh one

340
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,480
Speaker 1: of the post conference uh, you know interviews that you

341
00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,400
Speaker 1: guys did is twitch is a twitchy guy. He has

342
00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,040
Speaker 1: that kind of quick fibers in his body that that

343
00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,640
Speaker 1: allows him to be where he needs to be in

344
00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,160
Speaker 1: the very second that he needs to be there. And

345
00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,640
Speaker 1: when you look at what King did well last year,

346
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,040
Speaker 1: and you look at what Alexander does and then this

347
00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,520
Speaker 1: boatload of cornerbacks the Packers have coming back with House Williams,

348
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,720
Speaker 1: Quentin Rollins will be coming off an Achilles. But I

349
00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,520
Speaker 1: mean they have a lot of different options there to

350
00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,560
Speaker 1: compliment that core um this is and the work isn't done.

351
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,440
Speaker 1: Goodkin said that, I mean, they still would like to

352
00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,160
Speaker 1: get some more done this weekend. But that being said,

353
00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,560
Speaker 1: it was a very good start. Yeah, really be interesting

354
00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,920
Speaker 1: to see how this comes together now with an addition

355
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,920
Speaker 1: like this guy. But with that, we're gonna go to

356
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:39,560
Speaker 1: a breakback with more Unpackers Unscripted right after this. Welcome

357
00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,080
Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted Mike Spofford alongside West hod Kuit's

358
00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,640
Speaker 1: okay West. Before we wrap up this, uh this first

359
00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,879
Speaker 1: round recap here, I want to take a look at

360
00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of the bigger picture of what happened

361
00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,800
Speaker 1: here in the first round because we had talked about

362
00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,280
Speaker 1: it all during the week. With the Packers sitting in

363
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,320
Speaker 1: the middle of the first round, you needed those four

364
00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to be taken up high some other offensive guys,

365
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,600
Speaker 1: and as it turned out, you know, Sae Kwon, Barkley,

366
00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,520
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson not a surprise, Mike McGlinchey, as I mentioned,

367
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,359
Speaker 1: ended up sneaking into the top ten. So that pushed

368
00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,560
Speaker 1: some of those defensive players down into the Packers range.

369
00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,399
Speaker 1: And as it turns out, the four quarterbacks in the

370
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,960
Speaker 1: top ten made NFL history, did it not? They did

371
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,000
Speaker 1: first time ever that with Josh Rosen going number ten

372
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,680
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals after they traded up, first time that's

373
00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,199
Speaker 1: ever happened in NFL history. I think that shows you

374
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 1: again the importance this particular year with having this many

375
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,200
Speaker 1: different prospects that are considered, you know, top level potential

376
00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks. Uh, the teams had to go for it.

377
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 1: And you look at Buffalo trading up as well. I

378
00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,600
Speaker 1: think the Jets they already did their trade, you know,

379
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,520
Speaker 1: months ago now, it seems like, but this was the

380
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,520
Speaker 1: year to jump on it. And it made a lot

381
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,560
Speaker 1: of sense for me going into this draft, Mike, I

382
00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,879
Speaker 1: thought there was really seven things that needed to happen

383
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 1: in terms of the players in that top third team

384
00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,639
Speaker 1: before the Packers for things to really work out and

385
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 1: going the sweet spot for Green Bay. You needed those four,

386
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,360
Speaker 1: those four quarterbacks to go before fourteen. Uh, and then

387
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 1: you needed McGlinchey to sneak in there because everyone knew

388
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson at some point was going to get taken.

389
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 1: And I thought you needed like Vita Vea or Doron

390
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 1: Payne to go in those first thirteen picks, and both

391
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 1: of them ended up. Yeah, they ended up both getting

392
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: those two big guys. So ultimately that's what allowed the

393
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 1: Packers to sit in their spot at fourteen, with all

394
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 1: these different options and how they wanted to address their defense.

395
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 1: I thought the board really lined up well for them,

396
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 1: other than the fact that I'm sure if you're Green Bay,

397
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 1: you would have loved to have seen Denzil a Ward

398
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 1: make it a little bit farther down the board, But

399
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 1: John Dorsey was having none of that. He grabbed him

400
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,639
Speaker 1: at number four, right after he had taken Baker Mayfield

401
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 1: with the number one pick. Yeah, and I still I've

402
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 1: said this to you before I said it to you

403
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: right afterwards. I would have been very interested to see

404
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 1: what Dorsey does if say, Kwon Barkley would have been there,

405
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 1: But the Giants obviously felt like they wanted to go

406
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 1: with the best player in the draft over the quarterback

407
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 1: at least know a lot of people's eyes. But all

408
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 1: that being said, with Chubb being off the board, I

409
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 1: just thought, other than somebody making a remarkable fall, whether

410
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 1: it was a Rokan Smith or somebody like that, this

411
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: was as good of a scenario as Brian good. Yeah,

412
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: and quickly I wanted to get your thoughts on what

413
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFC North. Did you mentioned Rokuan Smith,

414
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,239
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Georgia. The Bears ended up taking him

415
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 1: at number eight overall. Later on in the first round,

416
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions take an offensive lineman, Frank rag Now

417
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 1: from Arkansas, probably a center. It sounds like um and

418
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 1: then uh and then beyond that, the Minnesota Vikings take

419
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: cornerback from UCF Mike Hughes Um Roquan Smith. I mean,

420
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: is it is he brian or lack or light so

421
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: to speak? I mean, you know, he maybe has the

422
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: potential to be that kind of player. This is what's

423
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: interesting with with Vic Fangio b in in Chicago. Now,

424
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: maybe it'll change a little bit now with Mike Petton

425
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: and Green Bay, but they always him and Caper's look

426
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 1: for the same type of players. So to me, Smith

427
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: really projects is that every down, you know, three down

428
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: inside linebacker, dime linebacker type that you can always just

429
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: count on, you know, playing and play out. More So,

430
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: I think reag Now is a great story. Obviously lost

431
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 1: his father a number of years ago, but still really

432
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: persevered and put together a really nice stretch of football

433
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: despite some of the ups and downs that Arkansas had

434
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: so it was it was interesting to see how I'll play,

435
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: don't yeah, And with the Minnesota Vikings taking a corner

436
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: Mike Hughes, I think it'll be, uh, it'll be prudent

437
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: to watch, you know, Hughes's career with Alexander's because really

438
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: the only reason Hughes lasted that long is most likely

439
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: because of the off field concerns. A lot of analysts

440
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: had him rated, you know, just as good as Alexander Um,

441
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe just below Denzel Ward, who was

442
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: pretty much the consensus top cornerback in the draft. So

443
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: so we'll be watching, uh, watching their careers closely here

444
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: in the NFC North. But with that we need to

445
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: sign off on Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all

446
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 1: of our coverage of the team and the rest of

447
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: the draft on Packers dot com on Twitter. He's at

448
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 1: west Hod I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the

449
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: team account. Thanks for tuning in every Undy. We'll see

450
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: you next time. M HM.