Speaker 1: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
Speaker 1: and everybody.
Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, hang out?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: It's Laura Rosa and this is another episode of the
Speaker 1: Latest with Laura Rosa. This is your daily dig of
Speaker 1: all things pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the
Speaker 1: conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 1: So you guys know, we always kick off the show
Speaker 1: checking in behind the scenes of the Grind. And this weekend, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a pretty active weekend for me. I
Speaker 1: am heading into a content shoot that I'm actually just
Speaker 1: now getting back around to being able to like continually
Speaker 1: do so early on, what I would do is every month,
Speaker 1: at least twice out of the month, I would shoot
Speaker 1: like photo shoots, whether it was images that I'd be
Speaker 1: shooting for the Brown Girl Grinding that we have at
Speaker 1: Broncoorande dot com, or if it was just like lifestyle stuff,
Speaker 1: so like everyday stuff out and about just whatever only
Speaker 1: because a lot of like brandale stuff and like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're working and trying to build in a social
Speaker 1: media space as a person that works basically as an influencer.
Speaker 3: Even though I don't like that word.
Speaker 1: A lot of it is they want the brands want
Speaker 1: to see you doing what you're trying to tell you're
Speaker 1: trying to sell them on that you can be paid
Speaker 1: to do. So I've always been pretty consistent at like
Speaker 1: making sure that like we shoot a lot, like and.
Speaker 3: Recently I've been sucking at that.
Speaker 1: Like I it's just hard sometimes trying to keep up
Speaker 1: with like everything that's happening at one time. And I'm
Speaker 1: be honest, the weekends where I don't have to like
Speaker 1: get up and go anywhere for work or do anything,
Speaker 1: I just want to eat good and go to sleep
Speaker 1: and watch TV. Like I'm already thinking about with this
Speaker 1: shoot coming up this weekend, and I'll make sure I
Speaker 1: get some behind the scenes for you guys, so you
Speaker 1: guys can kind of hear us live in action as
Speaker 1: we're figuring out the images and if you want to
Speaker 1: see the final images, they will end up making it
Speaker 1: to my Instagram that's Lauren the Rosa Everywhere l o
Speaker 1: r e N l o r O SA. A lot
Speaker 1: of these images will also be able to be used
Speaker 1: across like you know, my YouTube channel for new imaging
Speaker 1: and new branding. And then whenever I'm like booked for stuff,
Speaker 1: so speaking panels, speaking engagements, panels, keynote things like whatever.
Speaker 1: I have more images to send out for that as well.
Speaker 1: I be wanting to be home and I'm already thinking
Speaker 1: about dam were about to be there from like nine
Speaker 1: to six, and then like my brother's coming into town
Speaker 1: to help do some of the behind the scenes. I'm
Speaker 1: just hoping that people just want to go home after
Speaker 1: the shoot, or that they're tired too and they don't
Speaker 1: want to do much of anything. But when I say
Speaker 1: gearing up, I mean like there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: prep that goes into it. So we are pulling outfits,
Speaker 1: we're pulling shoes, call sheets, we're figuring out our shot
Speaker 1: lists and all the things we want to capture.
Speaker 3: I gotta get my hair done.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot people people really try to make
Speaker 1: social media and building your brand, not even just on
Speaker 1: social media, but like building your brand aesthetically if you're trying,
Speaker 1: and it matters for me, Like you know, I want
Speaker 1: to build in the fashion world. I want to build
Speaker 1: in the beauty and the glen world as far as
Speaker 1: like makeup and hair, and eventually I would love to
Speaker 1: have my own brands there but I want to start
Speaker 1: the conversation now, especially because I feel like right now
Speaker 1: people care so much, like they'd be all in my
Speaker 1: all in my closet about the clothes, the outfits, where
Speaker 1: we're going, and I appreciate it, even though sometimes I'd
Speaker 1: be wanting to cuss people's kids out, not literally people's kids,
Speaker 1: but like y'all grown folks being in the comments with
Speaker 1: all these things to say, and I'm like, Yo, you're
Speaker 1: like forty, aren't you at work? Why are you worried
Speaker 1: about me and what I put on a day around
Speaker 1: my slim ways, baby won't way?
Speaker 3: Okay? Is that why y'all here?
Speaker 1: But I do feel like the conversation being centered around
Speaker 1: like fashion and beauty and branding for black women right now?
Speaker 3: Are we on a up? Like there's so much.
Speaker 1: Money in those areas, billions and billions of dollars that
Speaker 1: are spent, and we are literally the center of that universe.
Speaker 1: So I'm coming from my piece of the pie. So yes,
Speaker 1: getting back on the wagon of being consistent with stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So make sure y'all look out for the
Speaker 1: looks and the photo shoot that we'll be posting, and
Speaker 1: you guys may see some of these photos featured in
Speaker 1: some magazines. I'll let y'all know, though, So let's get
Speaker 1: on into the latest now. Now, speaking of being all
Speaker 1: into people's business and who in the business and.
Speaker 3: Who got what to say?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there has been a new character has
Speaker 1: entered the chat in this Pat poos in remy Ma
Speaker 1: back and forth, and this character is a cease and desist. Okay,
Speaker 1: they'd be like, choose your fighter right Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys know that's saying, but it's basically
Speaker 1: like you playing a video game, and there's all these
Speaker 1: characters in different fits and different looks you can choose from,
Speaker 1: and every time you throw a fighter in the game,
Speaker 1: it's a whole new battle and a whole new thing
Speaker 1: and a whole new level or conversation of the game
Speaker 1: that you're playing. Up. Pet Poofs has shot off a
Speaker 1: cease and desist to remy Ma. For background, for those
Speaker 1: of you guys who may not know, remy Ma and
Speaker 1: Pat Poofs have were together. They were together for about
Speaker 1: twenty some years married. They are supposed to currently be
Speaker 1: going through a divorce, but that has been that's been
Speaker 1: an ongoing thing for what almost a years. So now
Speaker 1: let me see when did Petpoofs file for divorce? Pet
Speaker 1: Poofs filed for divorce from Remy Ma. Oh yeah wow
Speaker 1: May twenty twenty five. So in his cease and desist,
Speaker 1: pet Poofs is saying that Remy Ma, can they want
Speaker 1: this free style of go away? He says that this
Speaker 1: music is a direct, profane, insulting, and highly negative piece
Speaker 1: of remarks toward pet poos. That's what his attorney is
Speaker 1: saying in a legend in this letter. Now they're also
Speaker 1: saying that at some point there has been discussion about
Speaker 1: a non disclosure on both sides, like they were, I
Speaker 1: guess both legal teams, Remy's legal team and Pappoose's legal
Speaker 1: team have been sitting and having discussions about what a
Speaker 1: non disclosure looks like and what the provisions around that
Speaker 1: would be, especially because they have a child in all
Speaker 1: of this, you know who will.
Speaker 3: Probably grow up one day and see and hear some things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so there's been conversations, nothing signed, according to
Speaker 1: this document, but this discussions about the NDA and Pepposse's
Speaker 1: attorney in this season desist is like the you know,
Speaker 1: the actions following this song have been the complete opposite
Speaker 1: of what we discussed when we came up with this
Speaker 1: non disclosure, talking about them not being able to disparage
Speaker 1: each other, especially being as though their child will see
Speaker 1: this one day.
Speaker 3: So they want everything removed. They want to.
Speaker 1: Make it where where Remy is not at all able
Speaker 1: to publish, post record or disperse of defamatory, harassing or
Speaker 1: disparaging statements concerning pet poofs. And then the attorney request
Speaker 1: that the video the offending material be removed without delay.
Speaker 1: So they want it scrubbed from the internet. They want
Speaker 1: it taken down. But here's the thing. First of all,
Speaker 1: once time hits the internet, it has the life of
Speaker 1: its own. When Remy did this song, I want you
Speaker 1: to hear the parts that they're saying are.
Speaker 3: Insulting.
Speaker 1: So this is the part where Remi ma is talking
Speaker 1: about pet poofs and she's saying that like his action
Speaker 1: or lack their over the bedroom and all that, let's.
Speaker 3: Take hold you doing the most over.
Speaker 4: So so Dick got bit her since I was wearing
Speaker 4: bobos bitch you get a bullet through your shirt with a.
Speaker 1: Logo with Then Remima addresses the allegations which you know
Speaker 1: have been mentioned by Pappoos previously that Pat Poos would
Speaker 1: write her music.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to that, the.
Speaker 4: Third nigga claiming that they vote those hits when their
Speaker 4: whole career. They ain't never ghost folks shit, not for
Speaker 4: me or anybody else. You always zact and like you
Speaker 4: help a nigga, go help you.
Speaker 1: Now, there's another part of this freestyle that remy My
Speaker 1: talks directly to Clarissa Shields. But when she performed this
Speaker 1: freestyle recently a few weeks ago, I was at Angie
Speaker 1: Martinez's barbecue. She performed the freestyle there. She actually inserts
Speaker 1: Pep's name. She called, well they call him pepoofs. I
Speaker 1: mean his name is Petpoos if they call him pap
Speaker 1: She inserted Pep into the live performance.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen. Things on the internet have a
Speaker 3: life of her own.
Speaker 1: There's no way she'll be able to scrub every little
Speaker 1: post about this freestyle. It's it's going too crazy. First
Speaker 1: of all, it's just a good record. Like people actually
Speaker 1: like the song. It plays like crazy. I live in
Speaker 1: New York. I'm I'm here in New York running around
Speaker 1: in New York. It plays like crazy in the clubs,
Speaker 1: that's number one. They play it like crazy on the
Speaker 1: radio stations, all of them here. I don't know about
Speaker 1: wherever you guys look at, but it's going crazy here.
Speaker 3: And a lot of that is because.
Speaker 1: They're here, like they are New York artists, but also
Speaker 1: the people on the internet love it too. Remy did
Speaker 1: it and dropped it because everybody was doing the hyu
Speaker 1: fn li and freestyles. Hers just happened to throw a
Speaker 1: couple of shots their way. But the platform she dropped
Speaker 1: it on, it's.
Speaker 3: Been so viral. I don't even know how you would
Speaker 3: possibly do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there are companies and agencies that
Speaker 1: can attempt to, but it's out of here literally.
Speaker 3: Now. I guess we just wait to see what happens
Speaker 3: from here.
Speaker 1: I have no statements at all from Remy's team, and
Speaker 1: this is one of them things where you do just
Speaker 1: have to wait to see what happens from here. Because
Speaker 1: pat Buz's attorney closes his letter with saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: if these things are not abided by, he can move
Speaker 1: forward with legal action and you know, request any damages
Speaker 1: for defamation, especially or in addition to that, those requests
Speaker 1: for them defamation remedies or you know, to be compensated
Speaker 1: for that. They can also as for legal fees and
Speaker 1: different things to be covered as well too, So we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. Let's shift gears a bit to a
Speaker 1: story that has become a national news story at this point.
Speaker 1: So that's a woman in this woman, she's a surrogate.
Speaker 1: She is from Alaska. Her name is McKenna West, so
Speaker 1: mckenno West. She became a surrogate for a couple that
Speaker 1: is from California but wanted to have a baby. And
Speaker 1: when she got pregnant with the baby, they found out
Speaker 1: at twenty weeks that the doctors that doctors, they found
Speaker 1: out at twenty weeks per doctors that the baby suffered
Speaker 1: from hypoplastic left heart syndrome. So this is a very
Speaker 1: rare birth defect where the left side of your.
Speaker 3: Heart does not grow correctly.
Speaker 1: Now they say at birth the baby would have needed
Speaker 1: three surgeries to correct certain things right, and I do
Speaker 1: know that the baby was born, you know that is
Speaker 1: the new reports. Now here's the issue the family from California,
Speaker 1: once they found out about that birth defect and the
Speaker 1: quality of life that the baby would live or lack thereof.
Speaker 3: They didn't want to have the baby anymore.
Speaker 1: They wanted to abort the baby, and according to the
Speaker 1: sarrogracy agreement, they had a clause that allowed the couple
Speaker 1: to choose to terminate the pregnancy if there was any
Speaker 1: anomaly found, any issue found right. So McKenna refused to
Speaker 1: do the abortion and she fled state. She went to Texas,
Speaker 1: where she would be legally seen as the birth mother.
Speaker 1: This is insane because I feel like when you go
Speaker 1: into a surrogracy, there's so much we talk about legal
Speaker 1: stuff and legal letters and all that, like, there's so
Speaker 1: much legality to so many different things. But when you
Speaker 1: go into a surrogacy situation, you never think about someone
Speaker 1: trying to find loopholes in the fact that they're your
Speaker 1: surrogate and want to keep the child even though you don't.
Speaker 1: So McKenna was due to give birth on September second,
Speaker 1: but delivered the baby it's a baby boy, and named
Speaker 1: him Gabriel on Wednesday in Dallas, so that would have
Speaker 1: been about a week or so after her actual due date. Now,
Speaker 1: McKenna's attorney her this is a person that goes by
Speaker 1: the name of Lincoln Wilson is the one who gave
Speaker 1: the update that she delivered the baby and she's now
Speaker 1: the baby's birth mom. That's another thing you don't intend
Speaker 1: on either, because normally when women are as surrogates, they
Speaker 1: have mentally I've always wondered that though, like how does
Speaker 1: that work? But they have mentally accepted the fact that
Speaker 1: they're going to be carrying this baby, feeling the life
Speaker 1: of the baby and all these things, but this is
Speaker 1: not their baby. I've literally always wondered how a woman
Speaker 1: could go through nine months of carrying a baby, feeling
Speaker 1: the baby grow, the heartbeat, having those little intimate moments,
Speaker 1: talking through the bait, talking to the baby, because you still, like,
Speaker 1: even though you know it's not your child, you're not disattached.
Speaker 1: The babies literally in your body, and you're having to
Speaker 1: go through that and a lot of times, like I've
Speaker 1: seen stories of parents who do their baby through surrogates
Speaker 1: and they're super super hands on, so of course they're
Speaker 1: at like every doctor's appointment, they you know, as much
Speaker 1: as they can so they can act. She'd be a
Speaker 1: part of the pregnancy phase of it, but the connection
Speaker 1: is still probably way different.
Speaker 2: Didn't it, Sorry, didn't Chloe Kardashian say.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he had a hard time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chloe, Chloe did a surrogate for one of her
Speaker 1: interest in children. Janet Jackson. No, no, no, no, Jenna
Speaker 1: Jackson carried her baby, didn't she.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pregnant, We just never seen what the baby looked like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry now, Yeah, Janet Jackson carried her baby. Yep,
Speaker 1: her baby boy. I think I thought she was a girl. No,
Speaker 1: her baby boy. His name is Issa Almana. He was
Speaker 1: born in January twenty seventeen with her husband at the time.
Speaker 1: But she gave birth at fifty years old. So I
Speaker 1: remember when she got pregnant.
Speaker 3: Did she do IVF?
Speaker 1: She would have had to at that age, right, necessarily
Speaker 1: let me see it was something wasn't completely hold on
Speaker 1: natural hold on. Oh yeah, I do remember the So yeah,
Speaker 1: she's never publicly confirmed whether she used IVF at all
Speaker 1: when she became pregnant with her first child. She kept
Speaker 1: all of that stuff private, but because of her age,
Speaker 1: a lot of people just assume that that's what it was.
Speaker 1: So that, yeah, it wasn't a surrogate, but it was
Speaker 1: the other like the other option of IVF for people
Speaker 1: that are not able to get pregnant. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: just often always wondered, like what is that like, like
Speaker 1: being so attached to something in your body and in disattachchent.
Speaker 1: I've also always wanted that too with people who put
Speaker 1: kids up for adoption, I do feel like if you
Speaker 1: don't want to be a parent, if you're not in
Speaker 1: the mental you know position or you know, even if
Speaker 1: it's financial, whatever the case may be. I believe in
Speaker 1: adoption only because I feel like babies deserve good homes
Speaker 1: and kids, like they don't ask to be here, so
Speaker 1: they do deserve that. But I always wondered how difficult
Speaker 1: that was to just give your kids, like have your
Speaker 1: kid just you know, floating in this this system of
Speaker 1: like let me pick and choose if I want to
Speaker 1: become your parents when they have natural born parents.
Speaker 2: You also or people also don't talk about like when
Speaker 2: I was breastfeeding, because is the Sarah gate gonna be
Speaker 2: breastfeeding too, because.
Speaker 5: You literally feel like I felt when my baby needed
Speaker 5: food or was crying. Like it's a weird sensation that
Speaker 5: you get, but like you feel like.
Speaker 2: The baby needing your breast milk.
Speaker 3: But if you're if you.
Speaker 1: Would still feel and had breast Mike and all that
Speaker 1: because the baby. But I just feel like Sarah gets
Speaker 1: signed up for that, like there's a disattachment that you
Speaker 1: have to sign up for.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting career, Like I don't.
Speaker 3: That's a lot according to reports the babies.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the baby's health condition, all that
Speaker 1: I can find so far is that those surgeries, those
Speaker 1: life sustaining medical surgeries and care that were needed are
Speaker 1: happening and the baby is still currently hospitalized. However, there's
Speaker 1: been a temporary restriction put on the surrogate, mom McKenna,
Speaker 1: so she can't see or hold the baby as the
Speaker 1: multi state legal and custody dispute between the surrogate and
Speaker 1: the intended parents proceed.
Speaker 2: How can they do that.
Speaker 1: Though, because at the end of what I think they're
Speaker 1: going to probably try and argue. I'm not for sure,
Speaker 1: but listening to this because she went to Texas where
Speaker 1: she had that researched, So there has to be some
Speaker 1: sort of clause for surrogates in Texas right when it
Speaker 1: comes to making that decision. That's why she went there.
Speaker 1: But whereever she was, wherever that contract is deemed like
Speaker 1: we're doing this in the state of whatever, and I'm
Speaker 1: assuming it's California. Those legal rights might protect the actual parent,
Speaker 1: but a judge, because this is now a legal matter,
Speaker 1: and a judge is gonna basically say, hey, right now,
Speaker 1: we just want to make it where all things halt.
Speaker 1: But legally and according to whatever contractor situation they have,
Speaker 1: those are that baby's parents. So until wee get that's
Speaker 1: that is a This is like a do's a big movie?
Speaker 1: This is like a movie. I feel I was gonna
Speaker 1: say I would never want to choose to do a surrogate,
Speaker 1: but I know most women who choose surrogacy. It's not
Speaker 1: normally just because they just don't want to carry their baby.
Speaker 1: There's normally like medical things or like something where they
Speaker 1: literally can't do it. So I also on the other
Speaker 1: side of it, just the mental and emotional side of it,
Speaker 1: for you know, the baby's actual parents. I feel bad,
Speaker 1: like cause it's like you have to mentally go through
Speaker 1: already like you weren't able to carry your own baby
Speaker 1: as his mom right, and then you find out that
Speaker 1: he will potentially a birth defects. And I know a
Speaker 1: lot of parents you know this, that's not an unnormal
Speaker 1: thing like people, more times than we know, are presented
Speaker 1: with the option to not move forward with having their
Speaker 1: actual child because of the birth defects in the quality
Speaker 1: of life or lack there of that will happen. So
Speaker 1: you're going through all of that decision making mentally and
Speaker 1: emotionally after not being able to I don't even know
Speaker 1: the full situation with as surrogancy, like why they chose
Speaker 1: to do a surrogate, but all of those emotions, and
Speaker 1: then on top of that, now you have to deal
Speaker 1: with a whole nother phase of emotions because your baby's here.
Speaker 1: The way he came into the world, the legal fight
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go through is so public now,
Speaker 1: like it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wish everyone in this situation the best because I
Speaker 1: think the surrogate mom was trying to make it save a.
Speaker 3: Life, like there are a lot of people who don't believe.
Speaker 1: In abortion once a child is you know, past a
Speaker 1: certain point, or you know, if there's a whole lot Lord,
Speaker 1: I don't know wish I don't even know what to
Speaker 1: wish everybody the best or prayers or I mean, because yo,
Speaker 1: another layer of this is like the baby is still
Speaker 1: going through all these life saving surgeries, so that poor
Speaker 1: baby is also going through so much, is fighting to
Speaker 1: be here in this world right now. And that's a
Speaker 1: whole other thing that both sides are gonna have to
Speaker 1: deal with because obviously the surrogate has grown an attachment
Speaker 1: to the baby, attachment to the baby, and obviously the
Speaker 1: parents are like this, that's their baby regardless, and they
Speaker 1: don't the parents don't want the baby though, well they
Speaker 1: didn't want I don't even think it's always the thing
Speaker 1: of the parents don't want the baby.
Speaker 3: I think it's the.
Speaker 1: Your risk you're thinking about if I bring my baby
Speaker 1: into this world and he has to live this way,
Speaker 1: Do I want my child to have to go through that?
Speaker 1: And if you have the choice to not, then sometimes
Speaker 1: people choose not to.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this has been another episode of The Latest with
Speaker 1: Laura the Rose of Guys. We will definitely this this
Speaker 1: surrogacy case. We're gonna follow this. I'm interested to see
Speaker 1: how this all plays out. And you know, just from
Speaker 1: a legal breakdown pspective, I'm interested to see what this
Speaker 1: woman's Oh maybe we can get her attorney on the podcast.
Speaker 3: We should do that.
Speaker 1: I'm every child because I'm very interested to see where
Speaker 1: her legal defense is going to be.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's going to be something.
Speaker 1: They found a loophole of some sort in that different
Speaker 1: in Texas that she did, you know that she fled to.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll talk to me right now
Speaker 1: because they ain't a thick of it, but we'll try.
Speaker 3: This has been another episode of the Latest with Lona Rosa.
Speaker 1: I tell you, guys, every single episode, y'all could be
Speaker 1: anywhere with any old body talking about all of the things.
Speaker 3: Child, but y'all choose to be right here with me,
Speaker 3: my lowriders.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys, and I'll catch you in my
Speaker 1: next episode.