WEBVTT - When Personal Drama Turns Into Legal Battles 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.720 I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:05.640 and everybody. 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.680 You know, if you don't lie about that, right, hang out? 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:11.039 What's up? 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.040 It's Laura Rosa and this is another episode of the 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.319 Latest with Laura Rosa. This is your daily dig of 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.000 all things pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:22.799 conversations that shake the room. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:23.200 Baby. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.279 So you guys know, we always kick off the show 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:34.960 checking in behind the scenes of the Grind. And this weekend, yeah, 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.040 it's gonna be a pretty active weekend for me. I 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:41.519 am heading into a content shoot that I'm actually just 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.240 now getting back around to being able to like continually 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.280 do so early on, what I would do is every month, 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.040 at least twice out of the month, I would shoot 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.640 like photo shoots, whether it was images that I'd be 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.279 shooting for the Brown Girl Grinding that we have at 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.440 Broncoorande dot com, or if it was just like lifestyle stuff, 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.960 so like everyday stuff out and about just whatever only 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.880 because a lot of like brandale stuff and like, you know, 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.199 when you're working and trying to build in a social 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.560 media space as a person that works basically as an influencer. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:18.600 Even though I don't like that word. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.640 A lot of it is they want the brands want 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.080 to see you doing what you're trying to tell you're 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.800 trying to sell them on that you can be paid 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.440 to do. So I've always been pretty consistent at like 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.760 making sure that like we shoot a lot, like and. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:32.840 Recently I've been sucking at that. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.280 Like I it's just hard sometimes trying to keep up 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.560 with like everything that's happening at one time. And I'm 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.600 be honest, the weekends where I don't have to like 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.760 get up and go anywhere for work or do anything, 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:45.880 I just want to eat good and go to sleep 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:50.400 and watch TV. Like I'm already thinking about with this 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.320 shoot coming up this weekend, and I'll make sure I 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.920 get some behind the scenes for you guys, so you 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.720 guys can kind of hear us live in action as 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.320 we're figuring out the images and if you want to 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.000 see the final images, they will end up making it 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.920 to my Instagram that's Lauren the Rosa Everywhere l o 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.680 r e N l o r O SA. A lot 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.120 of these images will also be able to be used 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.400 across like you know, my YouTube channel for new imaging 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.000 and new branding. And then whenever I'm like booked for stuff, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:23.720 so speaking panels, speaking engagements, panels, keynote things like whatever. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.080 I have more images to send out for that as well. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:28.280 I be wanting to be home and I'm already thinking 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:29.960 about dam were about to be there from like nine 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:34.720 to six, and then like my brother's coming into town 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.040 to help do some of the behind the scenes. I'm 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.040 just hoping that people just want to go home after 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.440 the shoot, or that they're tired too and they don't 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.799 want to do much of anything. But when I say 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:46.520 gearing up, I mean like there's a lot of like 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.799 prep that goes into it. So we are pulling outfits, 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.760 we're pulling shoes, call sheets, we're figuring out our shot 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.320 lists and all the things we want to capture. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.560 I gotta get my hair done. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.239 Like there's a lot people people really try to make 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.280 social media and building your brand, not even just on 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.080 social media, but like building your brand aesthetically if you're trying, 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:09.839 and it matters for me, Like you know, I want 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.880 to build in the fashion world. I want to build 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:13.720 in the beauty and the glen world as far as 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.800 like makeup and hair, and eventually I would love to 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.519 have my own brands there but I want to start 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.360 the conversation now, especially because I feel like right now 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.440 people care so much, like they'd be all in my 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.800 all in my closet about the clothes, the outfits, where 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.720 we're going, and I appreciate it, even though sometimes I'd 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.000 be wanting to cuss people's kids out, not literally people's kids, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.400 but like y'all grown folks being in the comments with 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.720 all these things to say, and I'm like, Yo, you're 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.280 like forty, aren't you at work? Why are you worried 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:42.680 about me and what I put on a day around 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.600 my slim ways, baby won't way? 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.280 Okay? Is that why y'all here? 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.240 But I do feel like the conversation being centered around 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:54.160 like fashion and beauty and branding for black women right now? 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.520 Are we on a up? Like there's so much. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.640 Money in those areas, billions and billions of dollars that 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.600 are spent, and we are literally the center of that universe. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.720 So I'm coming from my piece of the pie. So yes, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.040 getting back on the wagon of being consistent with stuff 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.400 like that. So make sure y'all look out for the 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:13.160 looks and the photo shoot that we'll be posting, and 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.040 you guys may see some of these photos featured in 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:21.800 some magazines. I'll let y'all know, though, So let's get 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:25.599 on into the latest now. Now, speaking of being all 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.359 into people's business and who in the business and. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:29.240 Who got what to say? 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.560 Oh my god, there has been a new character has 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.359 entered the chat in this Pat poos in remy Ma 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.760 back and forth, and this character is a cease and desist. Okay, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.480 they'd be like, choose your fighter right Like, I don't 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.800 know if you guys know that's saying, but it's basically 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.240 like you playing a video game, and there's all these 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.200 characters in different fits and different looks you can choose from, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.279 and every time you throw a fighter in the game, 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.960 it's a whole new battle and a whole new thing 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.000 and a whole new level or conversation of the game 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.040 that you're playing. Up. Pet Poofs has shot off a 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.320 cease and desist to remy Ma. For background, for those 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.440 of you guys who may not know, remy Ma and 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.799 Pat Poofs have were together. They were together for about 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:16.159 twenty some years married. They are supposed to currently be 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.800 going through a divorce, but that has been that's been 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.560 an ongoing thing for what almost a years. So now 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:27.760 let me see when did Petpoofs file for divorce? Pet 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.320 Poofs filed for divorce from Remy Ma. Oh yeah wow 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.279 May twenty twenty five. So in his cease and desist, 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.760 pet Poofs is saying that Remy Ma, can they want 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:45.160 this free style of go away? He says that this 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:50.440 music is a direct, profane, insulting, and highly negative piece 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.240 of remarks toward pet poos. That's what his attorney is 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.599 saying in a legend in this letter. Now they're also 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.600 saying that at some point there has been discussion about 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.560 a non disclosure on both sides, like they were, I 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.800 guess both legal teams, Remy's legal team and Pappoose's legal 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.200 team have been sitting and having discussions about what a 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.520 non disclosure looks like and what the provisions around that 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.600 would be, especially because they have a child in all 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.000 of this, you know who will. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.640 Probably grow up one day and see and hear some things. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.839 But yeah, so there's been conversations, nothing signed, according to 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.000 this document, but this discussions about the NDA and Pepposse's 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.880 attorney in this season desist is like the you know, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:37.719 the actions following this song have been the complete opposite 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.359 of what we discussed when we came up with this 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.200 non disclosure, talking about them not being able to disparage 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.240 each other, especially being as though their child will see 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:45.200 this one day. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.600 So they want everything removed. They want to. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.799 Make it where where Remy is not at all able 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:58.359 to publish, post record or disperse of defamatory, harassing or 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:04.760 disparaging statements concerning pet poofs. And then the attorney request 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.560 that the video the offending material be removed without delay. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.720 So they want it scrubbed from the internet. They want 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.720 it taken down. But here's the thing. First of all, 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.280 once time hits the internet, it has the life of 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.480 its own. When Remy did this song, I want you 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.840 to hear the parts that they're saying are. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:23.840 Insulting. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.640 So this is the part where Remi ma is talking 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.760 about pet poofs and she's saying that like his action 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.480 or lack their over the bedroom and all that, let's. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.400 Take hold you doing the most over. 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.880 So so Dick got bit her since I was wearing 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.360 bobos bitch you get a bullet through your shirt with a. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.480 Logo with Then Remima addresses the allegations which you know 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:47.640 have been mentioned by Pappoos previously that Pat Poos would 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:48.560 write her music. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.280 Let's take a listen to that, the. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.800 Third nigga claiming that they vote those hits when their 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.320 whole career. They ain't never ghost folks shit, not for 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.880 me or anybody else. You always zact and like you 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.120 help a nigga, go help you. 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.040 Now, there's another part of this freestyle that remy My 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:06.720 talks directly to Clarissa Shields. But when she performed this 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.480 freestyle recently a few weeks ago, I was at Angie 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:13.920 Martinez's barbecue. She performed the freestyle there. She actually inserts 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.400 Pep's name. She called, well they call him pepoofs. I 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.120 mean his name is Petpoos if they call him pap 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.000 She inserted Pep into the live performance. 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:27.760 Let's take a listen. Things on the internet have a 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:28.280 life of her own. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.880 There's no way she'll be able to scrub every little 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.240 post about this freestyle. It's it's going too crazy. First 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.840 of all, it's just a good record. Like people actually 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.400 like the song. It plays like crazy. I live in 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.400 New York. I'm I'm here in New York running around 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.880 in New York. It plays like crazy in the clubs, 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.600 that's number one. They play it like crazy on the 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.120 radio stations, all of them here. I don't know about 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.400 wherever you guys look at, but it's going crazy here. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.400 And a lot of that is because. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.080 They're here, like they are New York artists, but also 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.679 the people on the internet love it too. Remy did 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.640 it and dropped it because everybody was doing the hyu 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:06.679 fn li and freestyles. Hers just happened to throw a 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.720 couple of shots their way. But the platform she dropped 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.040 it on, it's. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.960 Been so viral. I don't even know how you would 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:14.679 possibly do that. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.000 I mean, I'm sure there are companies and agencies that 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:22.040 can attempt to, but it's out of here literally. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:29.079 Now. I guess we just wait to see what happens 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:29.520 from here. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:34.160 I have no statements at all from Remy's team, and 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:35.720 this is one of them things where you do just 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.280 have to wait to see what happens from here. Because 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.280 pat Buz's attorney closes his letter with saying that, you know, 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.400 if these things are not abided by, he can move 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:48.000 forward with legal action and you know, request any damages 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:53.200 for defamation, especially or in addition to that, those requests 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.400 for them defamation remedies or you know, to be compensated 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.959 for that. They can also as for legal fees and 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.360 different things to be covered as well too, So we'll 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:08.000 see what happens. Let's shift gears a bit to a 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.760 story that has become a national news story at this point. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.440 So that's a woman in this woman, she's a surrogate. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.200 She is from Alaska. Her name is McKenna West, so 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.040 mckenno West. She became a surrogate for a couple that 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.760 is from California but wanted to have a baby. And 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.679 when she got pregnant with the baby, they found out 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:36.040 at twenty weeks that the doctors that doctors, they found 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.960 out at twenty weeks per doctors that the baby suffered 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.360 from hypoplastic left heart syndrome. So this is a very 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.840 rare birth defect where the left side of your. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.520 Heart does not grow correctly. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.679 Now they say at birth the baby would have needed 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.640 three surgeries to correct certain things right, and I do 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.240 know that the baby was born, you know that is 0:10:56.280 --> 0:11:03.319 the new reports. Now here's the issue the family from California, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.400 once they found out about that birth defect and the 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.679 quality of life that the baby would live or lack thereof. 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:10.679 They didn't want to have the baby anymore. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.400 They wanted to abort the baby, and according to the 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.280 sarrogracy agreement, they had a clause that allowed the couple 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.640 to choose to terminate the pregnancy if there was any 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:24.400 anomaly found, any issue found right. So McKenna refused to 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.079 do the abortion and she fled state. She went to Texas, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.760 where she would be legally seen as the birth mother. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.680 This is insane because I feel like when you go 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.040 into a surrogracy, there's so much we talk about legal 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.280 stuff and legal letters and all that, like, there's so 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:41.280 much legality to so many different things. But when you 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.600 go into a surrogacy situation, you never think about someone 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.520 trying to find loopholes in the fact that they're your 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.559 surrogate and want to keep the child even though you don't. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.240 So McKenna was due to give birth on September second, 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.240 but delivered the baby it's a baby boy, and named 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.040 him Gabriel on Wednesday in Dallas, so that would have 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.600 been about a week or so after her actual due date. Now, 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.920 McKenna's attorney her this is a person that goes by 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.960 the name of Lincoln Wilson is the one who gave 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:09.920 the update that she delivered the baby and she's now 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.720 the baby's birth mom. That's another thing you don't intend 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.160 on either, because normally when women are as surrogates, they 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.439 have mentally I've always wondered that though, like how does 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.800 that work? But they have mentally accepted the fact that 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:24.800 they're going to be carrying this baby, feeling the life 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.360 of the baby and all these things, but this is 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:30.360 not their baby. I've literally always wondered how a woman 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.120 could go through nine months of carrying a baby, feeling 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:38.360 the baby grow, the heartbeat, having those little intimate moments, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.000 talking through the bait, talking to the baby, because you still, like, 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.400 even though you know it's not your child, you're not disattached. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.640 The babies literally in your body, and you're having to 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.880 go through that and a lot of times, like I've 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:52.200 seen stories of parents who do their baby through surrogates 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.640 and they're super super hands on, so of course they're 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.920 at like every doctor's appointment, they you know, as much 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.400 as they can so they can act. She'd be a 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.000 part of the pregnancy phase of it, but the connection 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.280 is still probably way different. 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.240 Didn't it, Sorry, didn't Chloe Kardashian say. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.520 Like, yeah, he had a hard time. 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.480 Yeah, Chloe, Chloe did a surrogate for one of her 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:18.400 interest in children. Janet Jackson. No, no, no, no, Jenna 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:19.599 Jackson carried her baby, didn't she. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.560 Yeah, pregnant, We just never seen what the baby looked like. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:30.200 Yeah, I'm sorry now, Yeah, Janet Jackson carried her baby. Yep, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.439 her baby boy. I think I thought she was a girl. No, 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.480 her baby boy. His name is Issa Almana. He was 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:42.560 born in January twenty seventeen with her husband at the time. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.760 But she gave birth at fifty years old. So I 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.920 remember when she got pregnant. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:50.599 Did she do IVF? 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.679 She would have had to at that age, right, necessarily 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.040 let me see it was something wasn't completely hold on 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:06.719 natural hold on. Oh yeah, I do remember the So yeah, 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.000 she's never publicly confirmed whether she used IVF at all 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.840 when she became pregnant with her first child. She kept 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.800 all of that stuff private, but because of her age, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.400 a lot of people just assume that that's what it was. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.000 So that, yeah, it wasn't a surrogate, but it was 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.800 the other like the other option of IVF for people 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.640 that are not able to get pregnant. But yeah, I 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:32.360 just often always wondered, like what is that like, like 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.080 being so attached to something in your body and in disattachchent. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.880 I've also always wanted that too with people who put 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.560 kids up for adoption, I do feel like if you 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.080 don't want to be a parent, if you're not in 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.240 the mental you know position or you know, even if 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.840 it's financial, whatever the case may be. I believe in 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.560 adoption only because I feel like babies deserve good homes 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.360 and kids, like they don't ask to be here, so 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.640 they do deserve that. But I always wondered how difficult 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.280 that was to just give your kids, like have your 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:05.120 kid just you know, floating in this this system of 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.880 like let me pick and choose if I want to 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.360 become your parents when they have natural born parents. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.960 You also or people also don't talk about like when 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.520 I was breastfeeding, because is the Sarah gate gonna be 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.720 breastfeeding too, because. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:26.160 You literally feel like I felt when my baby needed 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.360 food or was crying. Like it's a weird sensation that 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.920 you get, but like you feel like. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.560 The baby needing your breast milk. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.200 But if you're if you. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:44.040 Would still feel and had breast Mike and all that 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.200 because the baby. But I just feel like Sarah gets 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.240 signed up for that, like there's a disattachment that you 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.240 have to sign up for. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.640 That's an interesting career, Like I don't. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:01.520 That's a lot according to reports the babies. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.040 When it comes to the baby's health condition, all that 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:08.520 I can find so far is that those surgeries, those 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.680 life sustaining medical surgeries and care that were needed are 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.680 happening and the baby is still currently hospitalized. However, there's 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.760 been a temporary restriction put on the surrogate, mom McKenna, 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.360 so she can't see or hold the baby as the 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.160 multi state legal and custody dispute between the surrogate and 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.640 the intended parents proceed. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:29.800 How can they do that. 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.200 Though, because at the end of what I think they're 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.440 going to probably try and argue. I'm not for sure, 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.320 but listening to this because she went to Texas where 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:40.880 she had that researched, So there has to be some 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.880 sort of clause for surrogates in Texas right when it 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.240 comes to making that decision. That's why she went there. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:52.440 But whereever she was, wherever that contract is deemed like 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.160 we're doing this in the state of whatever, and I'm 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:59.880 assuming it's California. Those legal rights might protect the actual parent, 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.080 but a judge, because this is now a legal matter, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.480 and a judge is gonna basically say, hey, right now, 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.480 we just want to make it where all things halt. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:14.840 But legally and according to whatever contractor situation they have, 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.719 those are that baby's parents. So until wee get that's 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.000 that is a This is like a do's a big movie? 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.200 This is like a movie. I feel I was gonna 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.800 say I would never want to choose to do a surrogate, 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.600 but I know most women who choose surrogacy. It's not 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.399 normally just because they just don't want to carry their baby. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.919 There's normally like medical things or like something where they 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:41.520 literally can't do it. So I also on the other 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.719 side of it, just the mental and emotional side of it, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.800 for you know, the baby's actual parents. I feel bad, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.920 like cause it's like you have to mentally go through 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.439 already like you weren't able to carry your own baby 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.399 as his mom right, and then you find out that 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.159 he will potentially a birth defects. And I know a 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.920 lot of parents you know this, that's not an unnormal 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:09.280 thing like people, more times than we know, are presented 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.760 with the option to not move forward with having their 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.080 actual child because of the birth defects in the quality 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.600 of life or lack there of that will happen. So 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.280 you're going through all of that decision making mentally and 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.560 emotionally after not being able to I don't even know 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.640 the full situation with as surrogancy, like why they chose 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.480 to do a surrogate, but all of those emotions, and 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.520 then on top of that, now you have to deal 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.120 with a whole nother phase of emotions because your baby's here. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.720 The way he came into the world, the legal fight 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.720 you're gonna have to go through is so public now, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:38.240 like it's crazy. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:39.240 I don't know. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.600 I wish everyone in this situation the best because I 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:48.720 think the surrogate mom was trying to make it save a. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.800 Life, like there are a lot of people who don't believe. 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.600 In abortion once a child is you know, past a 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.760 certain point, or you know, if there's a whole lot Lord, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.080 I don't know wish I don't even know what to 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.159 wish everybody the best or prayers or I mean, because yo, 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.359 another layer of this is like the baby is still 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:10.880 going through all these life saving surgeries, so that poor 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.159 baby is also going through so much, is fighting to 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.399 be here in this world right now. And that's a 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.040 whole other thing that both sides are gonna have to 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.240 deal with because obviously the surrogate has grown an attachment 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.280 to the baby, attachment to the baby, and obviously the 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.719 parents are like this, that's their baby regardless, and they 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.040 don't the parents don't want the baby though, well they 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.400 didn't want I don't even think it's always the thing 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:33.720 of the parents don't want the baby. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:34.480 I think it's the. 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.359 Your risk you're thinking about if I bring my baby 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.840 into this world and he has to live this way, 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.840 Do I want my child to have to go through that? 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.840 And if you have the choice to not, then sometimes 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:46.679 people choose not to. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.399 Yeah. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.320 Yeah, this has been another episode of The Latest with 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.280 Laura the Rose of Guys. We will definitely this this 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.640 surrogacy case. We're gonna follow this. I'm interested to see 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.840 how this all plays out. And you know, just from 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.120 a legal breakdown pspective, I'm interested to see what this 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.960 woman's Oh maybe we can get her attorney on the podcast. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:05.960 We should do that. 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.560 I'm every child because I'm very interested to see where 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.280 her legal defense is going to be. 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:11.640 I'm sure that's going to be something. 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.399 They found a loophole of some sort in that different 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.720 in Texas that she did, you know that she fled to. 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:18.439 I don't know if they'll talk to me right now 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.200 because they ain't a thick of it, but we'll try. 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.119 This has been another episode of the Latest with Lona Rosa. 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.280