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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to the one and

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Speaker 1: only West Hot Cooits were coming to you here from

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Speaker 1: our studios at landbeau Field. This show truly is unscripted.

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Speaker 1: I did not see that coming. All right, Wes, We're

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Speaker 1: a couple of days removed now from the Packers victory

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Speaker 1: at Arrowhead Stadium over the Kansas City Chiefs, and Matt Lafleur,

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Speaker 1: as usual, the day after a game, has his press conference.

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Speaker 1: He actually gave the players what's called a victory Monday,

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Speaker 1: where they weren't totally totally off on Monday leading into

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Speaker 1: their regular day off on Tuesday, but the responsibilities very minimal.

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Speaker 1: A lot of meetings got pushed back to Wednesday morning,

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Speaker 1: so the players getting a bit of a break. One

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Speaker 1: of the topics at la Fleur's press conference was his mentality,

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Speaker 1: his approach with the team, the whole going one to

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Speaker 1: know every week, staying focused on you know that game

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Speaker 1: right in front of you. It's an it's an old adage,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a worn out cliche. But I wrote

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Speaker 1: about this on our website and looking at this Packers team,

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Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen Green Bay Packers. It's this approach

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Speaker 1: is working, and it's interesting to me that it's working,

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Speaker 1: because this is not a team with a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of NFL veterans who have chalked up all kinds of

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Speaker 1: playoff victories and winning seasons. And it's not a roster

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Speaker 1: of fifty three guys that necessarily knows what it takes

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Speaker 1: to do that in the NFL, to to deal with

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Speaker 1: the long haul and the grind and the week after

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Speaker 1: week and staying focused on what's in front of you. Yet, Um,

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Speaker 1: that's what these guys have done. And they're at the

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Speaker 1: midway point and their seven and one and uh whatever.

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Speaker 1: The message that Lafleur is delivering is definitely sinking in. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a really interesting thing that you

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Speaker 1: brought up in your story today or last night on

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Speaker 1: Packers dot com. You know, forty two of the fifty

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Speaker 1: three guys on this roster right now weren't even on

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen NFC Championship game team. Um

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Speaker 1: that shows you, I mean that. You know, there's been

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Speaker 1: nine draft classes since the Packers won the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: in two thousand ten. So, yeah, the mentality needs to shift.

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Speaker 1: There needs to be sort of a rejuvenation of this roster.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I was thinking about this too, and

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Speaker 1: it might even be something that leads to a story

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Speaker 1: you know, to below five seasons to start his NFL career.

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Speaker 1: Suddenly he's seven and one for what I imagine might

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Speaker 1: be the first time since high school, even if they

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Speaker 1: Were playing for Burgess High School and El Paso Texas

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Speaker 1: al Paso. But you know, I think if you would

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Speaker 1: have come out if Matt Lafour's message, not that he

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Speaker 1: would have ever done this or any coach would really

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Speaker 1: do this, but if his message going into the Chicago

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Speaker 1: game to start the season hundred season of the NFL

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Speaker 1: is I want to be seven and one at the

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Speaker 1: midway point in the season, everybody would be kind of like, oh, shoot, man,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a big lofty goal. You could have

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Speaker 1: a team coming off of a Super Bowl and not

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Speaker 1: you know, be able to attain such a goal. But

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Speaker 1: when you look at it. You're taken in bits and pieces.

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Speaker 1: There's an old phrase that a good friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: Jody Van Landen as Schwabon wrestling coach, always used to

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Speaker 1: use when I was covering preps. You know, basically seeing

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Speaker 1: earned every single one of those victories, and you've done

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Speaker 1: the reasons why I think Matt la Floor, like I

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Speaker 1: veteran players who are here, we're not on that particular

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Speaker 1: Because Frankly, West, that's how you That's how you answer

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Speaker 1: And it's funny. If you ever want to have an

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Speaker 1: But when the season goes like it did last year

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Speaker 1: But it's a lot easier to deal with Mike when

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Speaker 1: you're five six, seven games above five hundred, and that's

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Speaker 1: mid quarter pole? Would you say that? Is that right?

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Speaker 1: But you're halfway through the regular season. Now it goes

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Speaker 1: you got to tip your cab to Matthew Stafford too,

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Speaker 1: because if you don't have a running game, all eyes

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Speaker 1: are on you. And he's dealt with it a lot

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Speaker 1: over the years, over the last decade and trait Carson

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Speaker 1: Packers practice squad two weeks ago, So I mean, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of pressures on him, but he's finding

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Speaker 1: a way to make it work. I've talked about a

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Speaker 1: numerous times, Kenny Golladay looks like a really talented player.

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Speaker 1: At the time we're taping this, there's still a lot

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Speaker 1: to happen with the NFL trade deadline. Yes, there's some

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Speaker 1: overtures out there, some rumors in induendo that you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe they had potentially be willing to move Darius Slay.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be a mistake. That would be

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's one of your biggest pieces, uh,

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Speaker 1: year when they moved on from Golden Tate, I mean

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Speaker 1: they took Matthew Matthew Stafford's most comfortable target based on

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Speaker 1: the eighteen season, and they just moved on from him

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Speaker 1: But even you're you're still in this thing and you've

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Speaker 1: not understanding the idea of moving on from quality pieces.

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Speaker 1: So do I have a do you have a minute

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Speaker 1: to ask you a question here? What do you think

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Speaker 1: of the fact that two of the best teams in

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Speaker 1: with these rushing, heavy offenses. I think, what do you

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Speaker 1: make of it? I think it's great. I think it's

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Speaker 1: I think it's forcing. I think it's forcing teams in

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Speaker 1: a one week preparation scenario. And the Packers are going

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Speaker 1: to be dealing with this. The Packers will have their

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Speaker 1: bye week before the San Francisco game, but in a

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Speaker 1: one week preparation scenario to get ready for something that

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Speaker 1: you don't see on a regular basis. It's like what

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Speaker 1: goes on in college football when you have that one

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Speaker 1: offense and you you're not going to see that at

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Speaker 1: any other time. I mean, that's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an extreme example. But what these teams, what these teams

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Speaker 1: are doing, the way they're the way they're pounding the football,

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Speaker 1: using quarterbacks in different ways, um obviously playing playing stout defense.

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Speaker 1: The it's a preparation challenge and uh and those teams

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Speaker 1: are taking advantage of the fact that they are they

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Speaker 1: are making themselves difficult to prepare for. Can you win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl that way? I don't know, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it is It is a big It is a big

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Speaker 1: question because because in January, and you know, in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs it comes down to making big plays and making

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Speaker 1: a lot of big plays at crunch time in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter of making things happen. You can't. It's really

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Speaker 1: difficult in this league when you're facing the elite teams,

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Speaker 1: with the elite quarterbacks and with where you know offenses

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Speaker 1: have been heading for the last ten to fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: it's very difficult to sort of just grind a team

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Speaker 1: to dust, so to speak. When it comes to January.

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Speaker 1: You can win a lot of games in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: as I say, being a preparation challenge, but then how

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Speaker 1: that carries over to the postseason is sort of the

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Speaker 1: let's wait and see mode, at least for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I've seen more of San Francisco than Baltimore this year,

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Speaker 1: but San Francisco has been incredibly disciplined and that helps

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Speaker 1: them and how they're able to succeed. The reason why

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Speaker 1: I think it's a fascinating way to play football though,

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Speaker 1: because if you look at this past week, I mean

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Speaker 1: they think they had three different guys that had ten

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Speaker 1: carries or something like that. It's great when you're ahead.

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Speaker 1: If you fall behind, that's a challenging way to play

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Speaker 1: the game, and then when you get to the end

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Speaker 1: of the season, you're playing the best teams. I'm fascinated

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Speaker 1: by San Francisco. I love what Kyle Shanahan's doing. Really

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Speaker 1: curious and we're gonna be able to see it up

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Speaker 1: close and personally here in a month. But very curious

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Speaker 1: to see where that train takes them, because it's an

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Speaker 1: intriguing different look at this league that we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: in a number of years. Yeah, well, we'll have an

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Speaker 1: interesting discussion on tomorrow's show. Looking a little bit more

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Speaker 1: closely at the Chargers because they've decided to move on

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Speaker 1: from their offensive coordinator, Ken wizzen Hunt has been fired,

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Speaker 1: so some changes in the coaching structure there, but we

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Speaker 1: will get to that on tomorrow's show. For now, it's

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Speaker 1: a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. You should

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Speaker 1: have follow all of our coverage of the team on

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Speaker 1: west Hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the

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