1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Michael Varry Show is on the air. 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: I talked about this a couple of weeks ago, and 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: I don't know how. I guess I didn't go deep 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: enough into it, but I knew it was only a 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: matter of time, and so did you. 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: We all knew. 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: When the Democrats and the mainstream media started to promote 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: drag queens. You knew what was coming next. Drag queens 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: everywhere because it sort of induces others. It becomes, in 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: an odd way, a bandwagon effect. Now you may say 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: to yourself, I don't understand that, because it doesn't make 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: me want to be a drag queen. 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: But it was never intended to appeal to you. It 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: was intended to appeal to a certain amount of a 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: certain type of person. So when tattoos became more commonplace, 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: it was a rebel thing to do. It's a crazy 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: thing to do. 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: It was it was a it was a rebellion and 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: it showed that you were different. And so people would 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: get tattoos as a way of making a statement, piss 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: off mom and dad. And when you saw them, you 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: knew that's a person doesn't care what you think, and 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: it's it's as much a uniform as any other uniform. 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: But that's what it was until everybody started getting tattoos. 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: It got to the point where people in their seventies 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: are getting tattoos. Little ladies are getting tattoos because their 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: granddaughter comes home from college. As grandma, let's go get 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,279 Speaker 2: a tattoo, you and me, we'll get it on our ankle. 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: It'll be a butterfly. All right, maybe I'll do Your 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: grandmother do anything for the grand kids, you know that. 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: And so now you walk into a tattoo parlor and 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: there's grandma over there, sweet as she can be. He's 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: been voting Republicans since Eisenhower, and she's getting a tattoo. 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: So they had to go right, they ruined it for us. 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: It's like hipsters. It's very much like hipsters. It's like 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: hipsters who you know, they want the hot new thing, 38 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: the craft beer or this brand of clothing, or vacationing 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: in this particular place. And then when the normies do it, 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: when the rest of us do it, it ruins it. 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: Or if you have teenagers, your teenagers will use words 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: that are teen vocabulary jargon, and so what you do 43 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: is you learn about it and you throw it in 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: real casually as if you think you're super cool, and 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: they hear it, and it, I mean, destroys that term 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: for them. And in my house they're. 47 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Like, Dad, no, no, But what will. 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: Happen is Michael or Crockett one or the other, whichever 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: one reacts the most harshly to it, which is usually 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: Michael t my olde crocodile. 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: Go. 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that props. You did use it, right, 53 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean you did, you did actually use it right. 54 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta give you credit. You did so. 55 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: Anyway, So when the when normalizing the drag queens became 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: the deal, it started making more popular drag queens reading 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: to kids in school. They didn't they didn't just want 58 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: to be left alone and not beaten up. See that 59 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: was the originals. It always starts there, leave them alone, 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: they're victims of crime. Okay, leave them alone, don't pick 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: on them. Okay, they're coming to read to your kid 62 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: in school. 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa. That escalated quickly. 64 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: Drag Queen's Story Hour in the public library turned into 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: drag Queen's Story Hour in the school. And you were 66 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: a bigot if you balked at it. Okay, I'm a 67 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: biggot if that's what that means, because that's no place 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: for that. Then they put pornography in the school library. 69 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: Then they said that we wanted to ban books, and 70 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: so the FBI started investigating parents that went to school 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: board meetings to protest, bullying them, intimidating them gestapo tactics 72 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: exactly what it is, no different. We call them groomers 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: because that's what they are. They're grooming young children so 74 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: that they can be objects of their sexual enjoyment. It's 75 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: sick and it's real. That's what pedophiles do, and that's 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: why it's so important for all these people to do 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: what they do in the school. They don't want to 78 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: be left alone. Used to they'd say, just leave us 79 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: alone and leave our lives. 80 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: We're just like you. We just want to be left alone. 81 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: They don't want to be left alone anymore. 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: Now they want to come and smirit in your face 83 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: and they want to dare you to have a problem 84 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: with it so that they can destroy you. That's their goal. 85 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: You have to fight back in the same way they're fighting. Well, 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: we now have liberal white women, which is the source 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: of most problems in this country in academia trying to 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: tell us that pedophilia is a sexual orientation. 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: Most of us show the comfort when we think about pedophiles. 91 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: But just like pedophiles, we are not responsible for our feelings. 92 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: We do not choose them, but we are responsible for 93 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: our actions, and we must make a decision. It is 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: in our responsibility to reflect and to overcome our negative 95 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: feelings about pedophiles and to treat them with the same 96 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: respect we treat other people with. Who should accept that 97 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: pedophiles are people who have not chosen their sexuality and who, 98 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: unlike most of us, will never be able to live 99 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: it out freely if they want to lead an upright life. 100 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: Who should accept that pedophilia is a sexual preference. 101 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: Statistics indicate that there will be one or two of 102 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 4: you who are struggling with some form of pedophilic interest. 103 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: These people can't talk about their feelings because they know 104 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 4: that they will be hated for it. I truly do 105 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: believe that every person is longing for love at some 106 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: point in their life. And what if this love that 107 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 4: you really wish for will forever be impossible. That must 108 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: be a really lonely situation to be in. Yes, from 109 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: an emotional point of view, I can kind of understand 110 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: that you would want to eliminate these people from society. However, 111 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense, and that's because we're talking about biology. 112 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: We're talking about a sexual orientation, something that we simply 113 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: cannot change. And on top of that, every day new 114 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: people are born with the same difficulty. So it's not 115 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 4: practical to eliminate these people from society. They haven't done 116 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 4: anything wrong. 117 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: This should not be a surprise. How many high profile 118 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: people flew to Epstein out Nobody made them. They didn't 119 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: arrive and find out later. I had no idea what 120 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: was gonna happen. These people wanted to do this. They're 121 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: being protected. There is a powerful cabal protecting them, and 122 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: I think, by the way blackmailing them. Joe Biden had 123 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: been smelling the hair of young girls for a long time. 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: His daughter wrote in her diary, which has now been 125 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: verified she did write it. 126 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: It is her diary that he would shower with her 127 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: when she was a teenager and it was creepy and 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: she wished he would stop. Do you know any other 129 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: grown men who get button naked in the shower with 130 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: their teenage daughter, honestly, and a guy that already has it, 131 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: has a whole history. 132 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: But he's not the only people. 133 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: Jos Sweat comes to the fairer Sesso. 134 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 6: Guss perplexed iruck with his eight sheets. She's got orders 135 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 6: from the stools from where to your mexice. 136 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: It's Tracy Birds. 137 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, if you drink, don't drive, do the watermelon 138 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: crawl and listen to the TSAR talk. 139 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: My buddy Michael Berry. 140 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: My entire childhood was marked with horrible, horrible allergies growing 141 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: up in Orange and many of you, I can only 142 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: speak to Southeast Texas, but many of you who grew 143 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: up in this region experienced the same thing. I had 144 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: tubes not once, but twice in my ear, which is 145 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: basically a culvert, to get some drainage out of there, 146 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: and I had a terrible procedure they no longer do, 147 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: called windows done. It was a brief period of time 148 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: around seventy nine or eighty where they would go in 149 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: and literally punch holes in your cheekbones and try to 150 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: create a culvert there. The idea being, you know, you're 151 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: kind of releasing the dam and letting the snot out 152 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: of there. It was extremely painful recovery and it didn't work. 153 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: And to this day, when I have anytime scans are 154 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: done on my face, the doctors will go, ugh, you 155 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: had windows, Huh yes I did, uh yeah, and they 156 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: don't want to tell me, but then I tell them 157 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 2: I know. 158 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: It was a terrible procedure. 159 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: So my entire childhood is marked by these terrible, terrible allergies. 160 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: You know, stopped up, your eyes running. You know it's 161 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,599 Speaker 2: pollen season right now. Those of you who know no, 162 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: and a lot of us do. 163 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 3: Well. 164 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: I meet my wife when I'm eighteen, she's twenty one. 165 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: She's just come from India. 166 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: And she has no allergies, and she can't understand why 167 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: I'm constantly talking about allergies and blowing my nose and 168 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: everything else that goes with this disgusting condition. 169 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: And she has no allergies, and I'm jealous. Well, lo 170 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: and behold. 171 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: Over the years, she does develop some allergies, and unlike me, 172 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: she does something about it. So five years ago she 173 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: we discovered this doctor and then Chris Colosso, and he 174 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: came highly recommended, and he's a superstar allergy doctor. Asthma doctor. 175 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: So she goes to see him, and you know. 176 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: She does all the tests. 177 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: Everybody's had those tests done, but she probably had them 178 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: like me when you were a kid, and they're much 179 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: better today. And she comes home and tells me, you know, 180 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 2: she's allergic to dust mites, which are in a lot 181 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: of beds. So we we travel with our own sheets now, 182 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: and she's going to start taking these shots. And so 183 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: she takes those shots, and it took about six months 184 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: for her to be completely allergy free. And it was 185 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: one of those you know, before and after testimonials that 186 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: you don't really believe. You figure the person had to 187 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: be compensated, but I'm here to tell you it was true. 188 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: So she started in on me. This was five years ago, 189 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: so within four years, within a year, she just goes 190 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: for I think a monthly and she's the happiest person 191 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: in the world, and you need to go. 192 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: And I you know, I'm a guy. 193 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: You know, guys, y'all understand we'd rather bitch about it 194 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: than do anything about it. So eventually it got so 195 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: bad and y'all had to hear me go through this 196 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: that in late October early November, I caught an upper respiratory, 197 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: which I do about every three years or so, I thought, 198 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: and it was unbearable. So I about a month ago, 199 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: I guess, go to her doctor and I am already 200 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: on a path to improvement, and he identified a number 201 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: of things for me that I had no idea. And 202 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: I'm just impressed because I like people. You know, my 203 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: urologist Mo with Kara, he geeks out on eurological stuff. 204 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: My cardiologist Stan Duckman, he geeks out on doctor stuff. 205 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 2: I like people who are passionate about what they do, 206 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: the way Russell Lebarra is about the functioning of his 207 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: kitchen or the hiring of people. So the more I 208 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: talk to this guy, I was really fascinated by his 209 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: passion for this issue that affects a lot of people. 210 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: And his clinic is called Advanced Allergy and Asthma Center. 211 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: It's at the corner of Stell A link still a. 212 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: Lincoln. 213 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: Wesland are basically the same street, and Hulcomb and bel 214 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: Air are basically the same street that has changed names. 215 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: So Wesleyan and Hulcomb or Stella, Linco and bel Air, 216 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: wherever you want to think about it, that's. 217 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: Where they are. 218 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: Anyway, so we get to talking about these allergies and 219 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: what causes them and all this stuff. 220 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: And I thought, I'm fifty four, relatively well read. 221 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: I ask a lot of questions, and I learned things 222 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: from him in just a few meetings that I had 223 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: no idea about. And I said, well, let's share that 224 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: on the air moon. So I'm gonna need you to 225 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: pay attention. Okay, there'd be a quiz at the end. 226 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: Doctor Chris Colosso. Is his name Colaco. Don't try to 227 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: make sense of it. It's a Portuguese name, is our guest. 228 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: Let's start with this doctor Chris Colosso. Article in the 229 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: Chronicle a few days ago that said, it is pollen 230 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: season and it's a bad season. 231 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: What does that mean for people? 232 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: Why does that cause us so many problems when it's 233 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: pollen season? 234 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Explain it to me like I'm six years. 235 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 7: Old, all right, Michael, thank you for having me on 236 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 7: the show. And so you'll stop at the beginning. And so, 237 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 7: an allergy is an abnormal response to something that's not 238 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 7: really harmful to you. And so the body, depending on 239 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 7: your genetics or your environment, decides that it's going to 240 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 7: mount this immune response to something and then it every 241 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 7: time you get exposed to that, the body decides, hey, 242 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 7: this thing is affecting me and I'm going to fight it. 243 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 7: And so that's what they get allergy. And so pollen, 244 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 7: you know, is ubiquitous and all you know, Houston has 245 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 7: the right amount of humidity and higher levels of pollen 246 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 7: that you know, most people tend to have some level 247 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 7: of rhaniris or running nose and ocular symptoms that means 248 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 7: drainage from your eyes and those kinds of things when 249 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 7: pollen is very high. And so that's that's your introduction 250 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 7: to having allergy. Now most of us, you know, have 251 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 7: a certain level of resilience and that you have those 252 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 7: symptoms and sometimes it's for a day or two and 253 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 7: then you slowly get better. But what happens with allergy 254 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 7: is that it's considered an a topic March. And so 255 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 7: if you start off with one or two things, and 256 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 7: you know, we'll just make up a random amount, you 257 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 7: make one hundred histamine molecules, and histamine is the chemical 258 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 7: that your body secretes. It causes you to have the 259 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 7: itching and the sneezing and the eye itching and the 260 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 7: drainage and post nasal drip and all that kind of stuff. 261 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 7: And you know, the first year, you may make one 262 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 7: hundred histamine molecules, and you know, you can take a 263 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 7: nata histamine and you do better. And then you know, 264 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 7: with the natural course of disease, what happens the following 265 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 7: year is you make even more and you become allergic 266 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 7: to more things. And so once you get on that 267 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 7: pathway of this abnormal immune response to something that's harmless, 268 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 7: the body just you know, goes down that pathway and 269 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 7: starts reacting to different pollens, to dust, to animal vandor 270 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 7: to foods. And that's how allergy is. And so most 271 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 7: people within the next week or two, if you and 272 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 7: those who know, no, you're going to get miserable because 273 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 7: once you start seeing you know, I've just noticed though 274 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 7: the leaves are already falling. Once that starts, the old 275 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 7: pollen is going to start. And so most everyone in 276 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 7: Houston knows when you start seeing a little bit of 277 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 7: that yellow stuff on your car, you're going to get 278 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 7: kind of miserable. And so that's what's coming. And so 279 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 7: as you know, over the years, what you see and 280 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 7: most people may you know, have some idea with this, 281 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 7: is that the symptoms initially started, you know, and they're 282 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 7: not so bad, and then the following year it gets worse, 283 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 7: and it gets worse, and then finally you get to 284 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 7: where you're using multiple different medicines in this and you're 285 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 7: still miserable. And so what Ryan Eidis does is you 286 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 7: have all these secretions in your nose and they have 287 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 7: to go somewhere. And so, like you know what Michael 288 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 7: was saying with in his case, in the old days, 289 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 7: they thought, hey, we'll just cut out this path and 290 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 7: that will help everything grain and then we'll be better. 291 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: Doctor Chris Colosso old right there, old rut there. Our 292 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: guest is doctor Chris Colosso. He's an allergy and asthma specialist. 293 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: He's now my doctor. He's been my wife's doctor in 294 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: a very good one. 295 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: We'll continue our conversation with him right in the middle 296 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: of apology coming on. 297 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: You've got the Michael Berry's show. Chris Glosso is our guest. 298 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: He is my new allergy doctor. 299 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: He's been my wife's doctor for five years and proofs 300 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: in the pudding. She has had phenomenal results. So all 301 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: of the problems she had with allergies are gone. And 302 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: we are very grateful for it. His shop that he 303 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: is the head of his Advanced Allergy and Asthma Center, 304 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: which is over at Wesleyann and Holcombe, you know where 305 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: that is, just south of West University, doctor Chris Colosso 306 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: let me take you back for a moment. You said 307 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: that when this pollen comes out, even if we take 308 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: an anahistamine, which which dulls down our natural reaction. But 309 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: you talked about the symptoms of or what happens the result, 310 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: and that's thes not that's the eyes watering, that's why 311 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: is the body doing that. 312 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 7: So the so through evolution allergy initia and I know 313 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 7: there's caveats to this. And you know, the immune system, 314 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 7: the part that's responsible for allergy, they used to think 315 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 7: used to be directed towards parasites, and so that part 316 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 7: of the immune system used to be very active against 317 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 7: parasites and you know those kinds of pathogens. In most 318 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 7: of the developed world, we don't have that much parasites 319 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 7: to deal with. And so a simple way to think 320 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 7: about it is this, through evolution, this part of the 321 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 7: immune system that was functioning so well to take care 322 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 7: of parasites now sort of has nothing to react to 323 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 7: and so it starts going down this pathway to find 324 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 7: something to do, if you will. And that's a simplistic 325 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 7: way of looking at it. But now it starts reacting 326 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 7: to allergens and so it once it gets on that path, 327 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 7: it it sort of thinks that it's protecting you against 328 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 7: this stuff when this stuff is not. 329 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: Really how is I don't understand the purpose of the 330 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: MU because how is it forming all this snot? How 331 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: is that ever going to help me? 332 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 7: Well, you know, if when you have a lot of 333 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 7: that snot and it's draining out in that kind of thing, 334 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 7: it's it's you know, you're probably not when you're very congested, 335 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 7: you can't breathe, you probably won't get much fallen in there. 336 00:18:53,560 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 7: And so it's not even a good response, but it's 337 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 7: just the way the body is reacting to it. 338 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: Well, no, but that makes actual sense because that would 339 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: reduce the amount of pollen that you would continue to get. 340 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: It never crossed my mind. So what we're doing nois 341 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: go ahead. 342 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 7: So sometimes when people say, oh, I had to find 343 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 7: a surgery, and now they trim my tournaments and open 344 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 7: me up and now I can get all this stuff, 345 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 7: And then I feel like it's you know, still make 346 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 7: me miserable. And that's where where it's all open now. 347 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 7: And you know, so it doesn't change the surgery is 348 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 7: not going to change your immune system. 349 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: So what is the answery. 350 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: You've got to get your ad system to stop reacting 351 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: in this manner, correct. 352 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 7: And so one of the things that you know allergies do, 353 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 7: or you know that your wife did, right, And we're 354 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 7: jumping the gun here, so we're saying, oh, I'm not 355 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 7: saying that everyone needs shots or something like that, but 356 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 7: if you look at that, what allergy shots and they've 357 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 7: been around for a hundred years, and what allergy shots 358 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 7: is is to try and teach the immune system, if 359 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 7: you will, to not react to what you're allergic to. 360 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: And so. 361 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 7: What we do is you make these, you know, these 362 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 7: extracts which are basically has you know exactly what you're 363 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 7: allergic to, and you give it. 364 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Back to the patient. 365 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 7: Now, you couldn't possibly give them the full strame shot 366 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 7: or you'd kill them because they'd have a whole body 367 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 7: allergic reaction to the shot. And so what you do 368 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 7: is you deluded down one hundred thousand fold, and you 369 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 7: give it back to the patient and in slow incremental doses, 370 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 7: and so in that way, you're slowly introducing the allergen 371 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 7: to the body. And what that does over a period 372 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 7: of time is it it starts generating these cells in 373 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 7: the body called T suppress our cells, and these T 374 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 7: suppress our cells suppress the immune response to whatever is 375 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 7: in the allergy, to whatever's in the shot. And so 376 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 7: that is why in patients who have done immunotherapy and 377 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 7: those kinds of things, they don't react as strongly. So 378 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 7: when your body sees the pollen the next pollen season 379 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 7: and you've been on shots, it doesn't react as strongly. 380 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: To the shot to the pollen. 381 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 7: And so, you know, medications treat symptoms, they don't. 382 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: Do anything for the problem. 383 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 7: So the problem sort of festers along in the background. 384 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 7: And that's why, you know, when we talked about me 385 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 7: and you you know, I was like, hey, you know 386 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 7: during pollen season and I do this too, if I 387 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 7: go run around rice. I mean this is you know, 388 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 7: I try not to do the loop during the oak season, 389 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 7: but if I do run around it, I sometimes have 390 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 7: you know, mild symptoms. I immediately do a sinus rints 391 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 7: and clean out all that Paullen. So it's not sitting 392 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 7: in my away in my nasal passage making me horrible, 393 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 7: and that way you just physically do better. But what 394 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 7: allergy shops is to try and tell the body, hey, 395 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 7: stop reacting to this, you know, And so it's trying 396 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 7: to put a hold on your body going down this 397 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 7: wrong pathway of reacting to something that's harmless. 398 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: Mary Telly Boden has become nationally famous for the fact 399 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: that that she criticized the COVID protocols and all those 400 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: But before she was famous, and just as that was 401 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: beginning to happen, I had her on the show to 402 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: talk about a sinus rents because I had seen her. 403 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: She had a handle like doctor snotsucker or something something 404 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: funny like that, and she posts videos of doing these 405 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: sinus rentses and she was a big fan of My 406 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: wife does it. I don't do it as often I 407 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: know I should. I'm just irregular. My wife does it. 408 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: But on that point, I know, Mary Taly Boden is 409 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: a huge fan of that, and it sounds like you 410 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: are as well. 411 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 7: I am, and so you know there, so all of 412 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 7: the sinus rinses come from this. So in yoga one 413 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 7: hundred years ago. So in India they know there's a 414 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 7: thing called nathi and actually the natty pop comes from nati, 415 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 7: which is a term in yoga of where you rinse 416 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 7: out the nasal passages. And they knew a long time 417 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 7: ago that for whatever reason, if there was inflammation in 418 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 7: the nose, the chest would do bad. And so in 419 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 7: patients who have asthma, and this is you know, a 420 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 7: long time ago in India, they rinsed the nose out 421 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 7: and no one knows if he knew why. Over the 422 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 7: last fifteen to twenty years, we started to find out 423 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 7: that it's considered this single airway hypothesis, and so if 424 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 7: there's inflammation in one part of the airway, that inflammation 425 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 7: will irritate the whole airway. And so the nose is connected, 426 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 7: you know, to the lungs, and so a lot of 427 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 7: people will experience this when they have sometimes bad sinus 428 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 7: infections and upper estrare infections. Then they'll have wheezing in 429 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 7: those kinds of things. And that's where you know, physically 430 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 7: cleaning out all that mucus helps and the other thing 431 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 7: that you know, these rinses do is physically clean out 432 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 7: the pond or the dust might or whatever, so the 433 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 7: antigen is not just sitting in there, you know, keeping 434 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 7: the immune reaction going. 435 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: Hold with me for doctor Chris Colosso. He's at Advanced 436 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: Allergy and Asthma Center, which is Wesleyan and Holcombe. 437 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: He's he's We've had great. He needs out here, he 438 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: needs uh uh. He is our He's done great for 439 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: my wife. 440 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: I've started with him and I really like his ability 441 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: to explain these things, and we will continue having him 442 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: do that. 443 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: In the middle of pollen season coming up. 444 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 8: We love This Day productions. I love Budd Dean, Joe 445 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 8: as has been, race driver, Michael Berry, Funny Hacks, Ramond 446 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 8: King of Dean suggested for general audiences. 447 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: Doctor Chris Colosso is our guest Advanced Allergy and Asthma Center. 448 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: If you can't remember his name or the location, you 449 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: can email me. He is not a show sponsor yet. 450 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: He doesn't know he's going to be. But he's not 451 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: a show sponsor yet. But I will still forward you 452 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: or Emily will forward you to their phone number so 453 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: that you can call and get an appointment if you 454 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: want to go have the test. Doner, you want to 455 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: go see him for a consultation so that you can 456 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: connect with him. I'm a big fan because he's made 457 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: my wife very healthy and very happy, and that makes 458 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: me very happy. So, doctor colosso let's go back to. 459 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: You. 460 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: First, put my wife on Zyrtec, and we hear a 461 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: lot about zyrtech. Now it's over the counter, and Zytech 462 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: basically suppresses the body's desire to overreact to this pollen 463 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: we see out there all the time. Now, can you 464 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 2: talk through the history of that drug and how that 465 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: has affected your practice. 466 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 7: Zyrtec is an antihistamine, and so initially, you know, when 467 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 7: Zyrtec first came out, it was prescription and so you know, 468 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 7: you couldn't get zyrtech unless you went to the doctor. 469 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 7: You went to the allergist. And so you know, there's 470 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 7: a couple of things that the or moving the medicine 471 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 7: over the counter has done to the practice of allergy 472 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 7: for us. And it's just interesting to see. And so 473 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 7: when you have a lot of histamine around and you 474 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 7: feel miserable and you have drainage and congestion and you're 475 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 7: itching and all that kind of stuff, and you would 476 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 7: have to go to the doctor, and a lot of times, 477 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 7: the alogists would say, hey, let's see what you're allergic to, 478 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 7: and they do testing and you know, find one or 479 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 7: two things that was positive and then sometimes you know, 480 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 7: either start you on treatment for that or do avoidance 481 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 7: measures of those kind of things. But as these drugs 482 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 7: have gone, you know, over the counter, initially we were thought, oh, 483 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 7: there's going to be no need for allergies, but in fact, 484 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 7: what we've seen is that we now tend to pick 485 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 7: up patients who are a lot more serious. So if 486 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 7: there was no zerotech when you know, you first start 487 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 7: having allergy, then let's say you're just allergic to dust mites. 488 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 7: I'll just use that as an example. Then you know, 489 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 7: we would see the patient and sometimes if they'd get 490 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 7: on shots for dust mate. 491 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: Then they'd do a lot better. 492 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 7: But now with Zyrtech being over the counter, so let's 493 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 7: say you have a mild dust mite allergy and then 494 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 7: you start having springtime scenes and then you take zerotech. 495 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 7: Zertech blocks histamine, but it's not aligned, it's not doing 496 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 7: anything or not doing much because the allergy process of 497 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 7: you know, developing allergy to stuff is still going on. 498 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 7: And so what happens is then as long as that 499 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 7: zotech can keep blocking the amount of history being released, 500 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 7: you'll be okay, and then you start doing a nose 501 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 7: spray for allergy, and that's over the kind of and 502 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 7: in the background, you're you're you know, developing, not in 503 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 7: all cases, but in a lot of cases, you're developing 504 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 7: more allergy. And so then what happens is the person, 505 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 7: you know, it's almost rare, almost never that I see 506 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 7: a patient who's not tried zyrtech before or tried nose 507 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 7: sprays now or those kind of things. And so while 508 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 7: the zyrtech is helping you, you know, do okay or 509 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 7: control your symptoms, if the allergy is going on in 510 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 7: the background, then you're developing, you know, more allergy. And 511 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 7: so it's not atypical for me to see a patient 512 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 7: who has now multiple things that they allergic to. So, 513 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 7: you know, as in Michael's case, since you know we're 514 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 7: talking about this, it's it can be multiple trees and 515 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 7: grasses in those kinds of things. And so in so 516 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 7: what we tend to do, we say, you know, as all, 517 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 7: just see patients who are a lot further along in 518 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 7: the allergic process as opposed to you know, when xerotech 519 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 7: and those kind of drugs were prescription based because you 520 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 7: would just end up seeing the patient earlier. 521 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: But what does that mean you know that further along 522 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: are your allergies getting worse through time? 523 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: Is that it's not just here's the. 524 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: Are that's exactly right and how. 525 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 7: And so Okay, So that's a very good question. So 526 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 7: and it's a little bit technical, but in the body, 527 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 7: you have these these chemicals floating around called into lukens 528 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 7: and into lukens. Sometimes we'll player key role is if 529 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 7: if you have if you're exposed to analogy and or 530 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 7: you know, let's say we'll just we'll just make up something. 531 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 7: Let's say you're allergic to oak pollen. And when you're 532 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 7: allergic to oak pollen or you have bad allergies, you 533 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 7: have these chemicals flowing around and then there's many different 534 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 7: numbers of chemicals, but you'll pick the ones important analogy, 535 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 7: and so you have high levels of aisle four, Aisle five, 536 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 7: and aisle thirteen. Now, when you get exposed to a 537 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 7: pollen in the presence of high if there's a lot 538 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 7: of aisle four, Aisle five, Aisle thirteen, you're more likely 539 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 7: to make an allergic antibody to it and so they're not. 540 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 7: You know, there's studies that have done that show this. 541 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 7: Let's say you take a person who's allergic to oak, 542 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 7: and during oak season, you expose them to pecon pollen. 543 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 7: And in another chamber, you take someone who's not allergic 544 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 7: to oak, and you expose them to pecan pollen. And 545 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 7: then three months later you go back and you go 546 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 7: and check the blood and see who has an allergic 547 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 7: antibody to pecan. And interestingly, the person who was allergic 548 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 7: to oak is now allergic to oak and pecon, whereas 549 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 7: the one who wasn't allergic to oak isn't necessarily allergic 550 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 7: to con. And so allergy tends to beget allergy. And 551 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 7: so that's why that cycle just seems to you know, 552 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 7: once it starts, you tend to start going down that pathway. 553 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 7: And so that is why that is what I meant 554 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 7: is that when we know now see patients who've been 555 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 7: using over the kind of medicines they're already then tend 556 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 7: to be allergic to multiple different things, whereas before those 557 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 7: ween those medications with prescription, you would see those patients 558 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 7: a lot earlier in the disease process. 559 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because living where we live, and having 560 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: lived here my entire life, with only some brief periods 561 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: of living away, it's something that we grow accustomed to. 562 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: My mother had terrible, terrible allergies, My brother had pretty 563 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: bad allergies, and mine are not as bad as my 564 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: mother's were, but pretty bad. So it's almost something we 565 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: grow accustomed to. And so watching my wife's recovery or 566 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: healing or improvement, whatever you want to call it, I 567 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: almost didn't believe that there was anything that could be 568 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: done that could possibly make my life so much better. 569 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: But when I saw it with her, I said, my goodness, 570 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: that is especially with this, you know, three months of 571 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: just horrible and it was affecting my ability to do 572 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: the show. I said, okay, I'm willing to spend the 573 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: actual time to go and get something done about this. 574 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: Hold with us for just a moment. Chris Colosso is 575 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: our guest. That is spelled co l l ac. If 576 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: you want to go see him. It is Advanced out 577 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: Energy and Asthma Center. It's on Grammercy Street, which is 578 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: over kind of near Rice University, you could say a 579 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: little south of West University if you know where that is, 580 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: and otherwise you can email me and I will connect 581 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: you with their website. If you want to go make 582 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: an appointment to see him. More of doctor Chris Colosso 583 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: in the middle of pollen season, as we are, blow 584 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: your nose and we'll have more come up.