1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: here at Garrett Downing and we are on the precipice 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: good Word of Ravens Mini Camp. So this is the 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: next step in the off season. OTAs are done and 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: now it's Mandatory Mini Camp Garrett. So we're going to 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: talk about the biggest storylines heading into this and kind 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: of what we'll be watching during this week of Mini Camp. 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Well, the biggest storyline of Mandatory Mini Camp is what's 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: happening today, and that is Media Day. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: There's what happens on the football field. 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: But for those of us in the content realm, Media 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: Day is really one of the biggest days on the 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: entire calendar. In all honesty, it is a major production. 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Like this entire building gets kind of taken over by 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: both internal and external media. The field house like where 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: they typically practice in the field house, that just becomes 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: essentially like a Hollywood set. There's photoshoot, photo shoot stations, 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: video shoot stations. External media is here. We have a 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: big set down there. It's it's really like all the 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: content that we get that we use over the course 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: of the entire year of the season. The video boards 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: and stadium, across social media, the intros that you watch 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: on Sunday Night football, you know, Lamar Jackson, Louisville, like 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: all that stuff. All that happens on this day, and 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: it's it's really fun to see it all, see it 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: all take place. 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: Well, you're mister media guy. I you know me, I'm 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: a Gruden grinder. I'm looking forward to what takes place 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: on the field, Garrett. Okay, your media day, guys. 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: So I note, you can no longer call yourself a 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: Gruden grinder. You miss the interview, you miss, like if 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: you don't even show up to work on the day 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: that you do the John Gruden interview, you have to 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: remove Gruden grinder from your vocabulary the rest of the year. 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: Like you're done. You're done. You can no longer call 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: yourself that. 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: I'm legitally bummed about that, very bummed man. 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: That was a tough one. But I was on a mountain. 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: There's nothing I could do. He surprised me. He didn't 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: get on my calendar. 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all I know is that Bryson and I, 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: Bryson and I Cliff, we're here. 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: We're grinding. 44 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: Didn't even come to pree. 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: We're day out. 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: John Gruden is here, We're ready to go where you're 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: over there, You're out of the mix, so, uh, you 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: are no longer a Green grinder. But what happens on 49 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: the field is going to be interesting. That is going 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: to be fun, fun to see. And I think, uh, 51 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: the main thing that the people will be excited to 52 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: see for this week of mandatory MIDI camp, of course, 53 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: is Lamar Jackson. 54 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Uh. 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: This is the one week of the off season program 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: that becomes mandatory. Everything up to this point is voluntary. 57 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: So I think everyone's excited to see Lamar and how 58 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: this offense operates with him running the show. 59 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was there at the beginning of OTAs for 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: one practice looked really sharp and then uh, you know 61 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of Cooper rush after that. And 62 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: so anytime Lamar is on the field, there's a different energy. 63 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: You know. His teammates said that Isaiah likely it was 64 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: like when Lamar's out here, it's just different. And so 65 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: it's year three of the top monk in offense. I 66 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: think that it's another you know, the Ravens have to 67 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: figure out how does this offense get even better after 68 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: being the number one offense? In the league last year. 69 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: That's a tough assignment, and that really takes place when 70 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: you have your MVP leader on the field, and so 71 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's some some new wrinkles in this offense 72 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: for sure, and a new weapon in DeAndre Hopkins, and 73 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: all of that really will start to kind of gel 74 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: and come together here during mini camp. 75 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, when when the well Lamar was on the field 76 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: for that day of OTA's early in the process, the 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: offense looked great. Like we said, we came in from 78 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: that practice and we were both like, this looked like 79 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: an October practice where it was really efficient. The offense 80 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: was operating at a high level. There seemed to be 81 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: like an intensity that you don't often see for a 82 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: May practice. 83 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: It just everything. 84 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: About it felt like energy wise, efficiency wise, it seemed 85 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: to be top notch. And I would expect the same 86 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: thing at mini camp. And I think that there is 87 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: a difference when Lamar's on the field, and like if 88 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: he's not out there, you just don't like, how's it 89 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: gonna look, you know, is he is he gonna be 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: rusty at all? Is it gonna take any amount of 91 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: time to get things up to speed? That was not 92 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: at all the case during the OTA that we saw 93 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: while he was out there, and I think that he'll 94 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: pick right up where he left off and made it 95 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: to work camp. Like That's the way I feel. I 96 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: just think he's gonna get out there and we're gonna 97 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: be like, man, Lamarro looks great. I think we're gonna 98 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: come in from that practice and be like, Lamar looks great. 99 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: Look. 100 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: It's been another OTAs of media personalities talking about, you know, 101 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: Lamar's absence from OTAs and what that means and the 102 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: significance of that. 103 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: And you know, this isn't the first year that we've 104 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 4: had that. 105 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: In the past couple of years, Lamar has not participed 106 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: to participated much during OTAs and I think he had 107 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: two pretty durn good years, and so of course you 108 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: always want, you know, as coaches and players, you want 109 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: him out there. 110 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: But Lamar's Lamar. Yeah, and he's. 111 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: A special guy, special athlete, special player, all everything special 112 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: about Lamar. 113 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: And so. 114 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, once he steps back on 115 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: the field, it is a boost to this offense and 116 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: that work is valuable to a degree, and so I'm 117 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: really excited to see that one thing that. 118 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: He's that I've took away from the past couple of years, 119 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: is like when he's when he kind of flips the 120 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: switch into like season mode, like he kind of he 121 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: said it in past years, like vacation's over, it's go time, 122 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: like it's time to work, yep. And he really goes 123 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: into that mindset and he lives in that world for 124 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: the rest of the year. And I just think that, 125 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: Like I go back to you mentioned the Isaiah Likely comment, 126 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: like they saw that on that one day where he 127 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of a tone setting day 128 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: when he was out there of saying like all right, 129 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: let's make sure that everything is is efficient, like I'm here, 130 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm ready to go. 131 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: Let's let's go. 132 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 133 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: And so what I'll be looking for from him is 134 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: how is the passing game operating, especially with the new 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: weapon in DeAndre Hopkins. Like the one day that we 136 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: saw Lamar and DeAndre Hopkins in the field together, I 137 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: came away super impressed. 138 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: I was. 139 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: I felt like Hopkins clearly has plenty left in the tank. 140 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: I even more than that, felt like he's going to 141 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: add an element to this offense. 142 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: That the Ravens have have. 143 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of teams have wanted but he's 144 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: going to add this outside the outside the numbers, back 145 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: shoulder element to this offense that's so desired, and I 146 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: think that's going to help elevate Lamar's game, Like where 147 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: can Lamar grow? I think that's an area with DeAndre Hopkins, 148 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: and so I'll be really excited to see those two 149 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: guys in the chemistry and where things are with them 150 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: at this point. 151 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm also interested in what happens off the field 152 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson during Mini camp. Is there a chance 153 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: that the Ravens and he could reach a contract extension 154 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: next week when he's. 155 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: In the building. I wouldn't rule that out. 156 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: I think that that's a possibility at any time this 157 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: offseason is for those two sides to come to an agreement. 158 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: And you know, according to over thecap dot com, you know, 159 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Lamar has a forty three and a half million dollar 160 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: salary cap hit in twenty twenty five and then twenty 161 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: twenty six and twenty seven that jumps to seventy four 162 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: point five million dollars, so widely speculated that a contract 163 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: extension is going to happen between the Ravens and Lamar Jackson. 164 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: And when he's in the building, I think that that's 165 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: a good time when he and Eric DeCosta can have 166 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: those conversations. As we all know, Lamar represents himself, so 167 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: that's the you know, there's no talking to an agent, 168 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: it's face to face and working it out between those 169 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: two guys. And so I think that's another thing to 170 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: monitor during mandatory mini camp. And you know, if the 171 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: Ravens are able to reach a contracts extension with Lamar Jackson, 172 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: which of course we all hope that they do and 173 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: I certainly inicipate they will at some point, then you 174 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: know what cap savings does that offer them, maybe immediately, 175 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: and what else does that enable them to do. 176 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: There's a lot of buzz out there about. 177 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: The possibility of signing a cornerback, a Pro Bowl cornerback, 178 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: and you know, or trading from one or whatnot. So 179 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I think that's another piece of the puzzle. There's still 180 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: a lot of pieces with the Ravens from a contract 181 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: extension standpoint, a lot of guys out there that are 182 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: kind of waiting for their turn. Yeah, and so that's 183 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: obviously the biggest piece of the puzzle, and Minikamp you 184 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: could see progress potentially on that during minikamp. 185 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: Well, Eric Ticosta said recently in an interview that the 186 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: two sides have at least started the dialogue yep, around that, 187 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: and so whenever the dialogue begins, then it's only a 188 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: matter of time, especially when you have two sides that 189 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: you feel really good that they want to be together. 190 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: It's just working out the specifics of that. And it's 191 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: on the contract front. Like it's been a busy offseason 192 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: for the Ravens. You go back to they resigned Ronnie 193 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: Stanley right before a free agency open that was a 194 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: massive move. They extended Derrick Henry, they extended Rashad Bateman, Like, 195 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: you have key pieces of this team. Those are all 196 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: offensive guys. Now we're talking about a Lamar Jackson extension. 197 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: You have others that are in the mix there as well. 198 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Hamilton bomb are both eligible. All the tight ends are 199 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: going into so like they could be they could the 200 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: work could continue on that front, they're not going to work. 201 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: Kind of gotten a head start on some of which 202 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: is really good because next offseason was going to be 203 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: like WHOA a long to do list for next offseason. 204 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: So I think it's been prudent for the Ravens to 205 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: get ahead of some of this, so. 206 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think they're done because they're always working 207 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: on that stuff. Of course, you're not going to get 208 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: all those guys. He's another one who's last year. He's 209 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: playing in the fifth year option. So there's a handful 210 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: of guys that they could they could consider and that's 211 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: part of the part of the process as well. So yeah, 212 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: so I like the contract stuff, and then also what 213 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: what's what we see from Lamar in this offense is 214 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: going to be fun to watch this passing game. Lamar 215 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: had his best season as passer last year, and I 216 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: just think that this group. I really like the depth 217 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: and the top end talent of this group. Save Flowers 218 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: last year had a Pro Bowl season. For Sad Bateman 219 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: just signed the contract extension, so he's in a good place. 220 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: It's like, you have this and then we already mentioned 221 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins. You have this passing group, this receiving corps 222 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: that I think is really talented, and I think that 223 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: they all kind of have a clear understanding of what 224 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: their roles are going to be. And I think that 225 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: this week of mini camp is kind of an indication 226 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: to all of us watching what those roles are going 227 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: to look like and it's an early indication of how 228 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: exactly these guys will be used. 229 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. 230 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break and when we come back, 231 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk about some other storylines from Mini Camp, some 232 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: non Lamar Jackson storylines that we're looking forward to. 233 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: You're listening to the launch podcast. We are coming to 234 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: you from the Siki Studio. We also want to mention 235 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: our partners at DraftKings Sportsbook. They are an official sports 236 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft Kings Sportsbook. The 237 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: Crown is yours. So another guy who we're excited to 238 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: see who has not really been here for much of 239 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 2: the off season program is Kyle van Noy, veteran outside linebacker. 240 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: I'd put him, you know, right near the top of 241 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: the list of guys who know how to get themselves 242 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: ready for a season. You know, this is a guy 243 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: who came off the couch a couple of years ago 244 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: and was balling off the couch, and so I'm sure 245 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: he will be in great shape and ready to go 246 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: for these offseason for this week in Mini Camp. But 247 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: I think what excites me about Van Noy being out 248 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: there on the practice field, is that you can just 249 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: get a sense of what this whole pass rush outside 250 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: linebacker group will look like. And I think it's a 251 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: really good group. You have him, you have a Dafe 252 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: Oway who we mentioned just a little bit ago. You 253 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: have Tavis Robinson, you have the rookie and Mike Green. 254 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: You have a second year linebacker in a Desa Isaac 255 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: who we really didn't see, who was kind of a 256 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: red shirt injury season for him as a rookie. And 257 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: then you have David Ajabo, former second round pick who's 258 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: battled injuries to start his NFL but has enormous talent. 259 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: That's a good group and we'll get to see him 260 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: all together. 261 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 262 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I honestly think that the buzz out there that the 263 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: Ravens are in the veteran free agent marketer or should 264 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: sign a veteran free agent pass rusher. I don't really 265 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: understand that, because A, you obviously have your two kind 266 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: of primary starters in a da f Aoa and Kyle 267 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: van Noy, two players coming off double digit SAX seasons, 268 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: and then beyond that you have a lot of depth. 269 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Tavius Robinson plays a lot of snaps. I 270 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: would only anticipate, you know, I mean, Chuck Smith just 271 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: called him a centerpiece in the defense. I would only 272 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: anticipate that Tavius, as he continues to improve as a 273 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: pass rusher, could only see the same or more snaps 274 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: going forward. And then you have this super talented second 275 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: round pick in Mike Green that I want to see play. 276 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: I want to see him play. I also want to 277 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: see a dece. I like, here's a third round pick. 278 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting there writing off at dece Isaac because 279 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: he had an injury marred rookie season. Talented big dude 280 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: like that. I really like his potential and he's flashed 281 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: at times. So when he's been on the field, I 282 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: thought he looked good at OTAs. And then David Ajabo, 283 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: here's the second round pick. Sky is sky high talent, 284 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: and he's never gonna get there. You know, everybody wants 285 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: to see David Ajabo get there and have the breakout 286 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: season and become the player that we all envisioned when 287 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens drafted him. It's not gonna happen if you 288 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: don't give him snaps. Now, he's got to earn those. 289 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: But I think he can, and I think he is 290 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: this offseason with the way he's working and practicing all 291 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: those things. So like, I just don't get what the 292 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: outside noise about. Oh, the Ravens that. 293 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: You know, got to add a veteran pass rusher. 294 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: They're not thin an outside linebacker by any stretch in 295 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: my imagine, in my opinion, And if you sign a 296 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: veteran like maybe a depth beast, but that guy's going 297 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: to take snaps away from these players that I want 298 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: to see on the field. 299 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: Well, the veteran that a lot of fans have asked 300 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: about is to Davion Clowney because the guys who have 301 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: been here, it's like I know that familiar face here, 302 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: and Clowney obviously was the guy the Ravens signed late 303 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: in the process a couple of years ago who had 304 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: a really good season in his one year in Baltimore. 305 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: And so those have been like the most common names. 306 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: Matthew Judon another guy that's formerly been here. 307 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Ye, seriously out there the guys another way around the Ravens, 308 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: Locerno mcfees available. 309 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: We're going back, yeah, go way back, Sizzle. But uh yeah, 310 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I don't think that like the 311 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: Ravens are in this like emergency situation where they need 312 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: to go out and get somebody. What they had the 313 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: second most sacks in the league last year, and so 314 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: like they had a productive group of two guys who 315 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: had double digit sacks last season, and and then they 316 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: added Mike Green to the mix and they got a. 317 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: Decent didn't lose anybody. 318 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: Right, Like you basically add Mike Green and a desa 319 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: Isaac because Isaac really was not an option because a rookie, 320 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: and so I want Mike Green on the field, like 321 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: you want to see these guys play, and Isaac was 322 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: a guy the Ravens were thrilled to get in the 323 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: third round last year. I think, honestly, what what it 324 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: comes down to, and like if the Ravens were to 325 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: add somebody at outside linebacker, The way I see it 326 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: right now is like if they were to get into 327 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: training camp and one of those guys is still out 328 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: there and they feel like, hey, we have more of 329 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: a need here, like whatever, it is, like we either 330 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: these guys aren't totally ready to take on a bigger 331 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: workload or somebody gets hurt. Of course, like if they 332 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: felt like, hey, we need some veteran help here because 333 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: the young guys have some room to improve. That would 334 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: be I think the time that you do it. But 335 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: for right now, like on paper, I really like this 336 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: outside linebacker group. I think that they I think that 337 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: they have top end talent. I think that they have 338 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: like you think, Odafe always going to be motivated this year. 339 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: These guys are going to go out there and have 340 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: any twenty pounds muscle. Yeah, contract year and like Zach 341 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: Orr talked about that recently, like he didn't shy away 342 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: from it. He's like, we know what this is. It's 343 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: a contract year for him, we know what that that entails. 344 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: And so these coaches and players are aware of like 345 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: what's at stake for Away and then you can make 346 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: the same argument for like most of the guys in 347 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: that room. And so I feel pretty good about the 348 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: outside linebacker group. 349 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm also interested to see Kyle van Noy fresh off 350 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: his seventy two hour water fast. 351 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was one. 352 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: I want to ask him about that. Yeah, that's an 353 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: interesting move. He tweeted this week about doing the seventy 354 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: two hour water fast. I don't know if this is 355 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: something he's done like many times, if this is a 356 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: new thing. 357 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: So it's a wait, it's a weight loss thing. 358 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not super familiar with the seventy two 359 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: hour wait water fast. 360 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 361 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: I want to deal with it. 362 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: I want to know what like his motivation is of it, 363 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: and it like is he he's doing it early enough. 364 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: It's not like he's coming into mini camp like in 365 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: the middle of the seventy two hours like that pretty 366 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: be pretty uh? I don't know, Like you have parched 367 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: parch parch No, no, no, no, you're not parts. You're 368 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: drinking water. All you're all you're having is water. 369 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: You're not. 370 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I was like, you're going seventy two hours 371 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: without water? 372 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: Okay, can you drink coffee the opposite? 373 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: All you have in seventy two all you have is 374 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 3: well you have. 375 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: You can tell I'm not on the diet, you're not 376 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: when I even dyet and yeah. 377 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: Ever. 378 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean now I'm hungry, so I'm not thirsty, 379 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: but I'm definitely hungry if I'm doing this right. 380 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: Yes, you're hungry, You're not thirsty, Okay, so educated, yeah, yeah, 381 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: I'll help you out there. 382 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I'd be curious to see. 383 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, if you remember, Lamar talked 384 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: about doing a fast. Yeah, I think either at training 385 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: camp or a mini camp. So we'll see what Kyle 386 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: has to say about what he what he how he 387 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: feels after this water fast. 388 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: I'm watching him. 389 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: You know. He posted a video our forty of the 390 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: seventy two hour waterfast walking through the grocery store, I mean, 391 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: walking past the goldfish. 392 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 4: He's walking past. 393 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, tinting yourself. 394 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: Oh that's tough. That's willpower right there. 395 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: That's like that they say, don't go to the grocery 396 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: store when you're hungry, exactly. I don't know how you 397 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: get much something more hungry than the hour forty of 398 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: the seventy two hour water fast. 399 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 4: I know he's walking right past the King's Hawaiian rolls. 400 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: I'll be tearing into those before to check out. 401 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 4: I'd be taking a. 402 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: Half bare he's got more. 403 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: It's just a whole bunch of open bags as you 404 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: go through checkout line. 405 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: So so I'm gonna yeah, the willpower alone, I'm impressed. 406 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh all right, all right, enough of that. 407 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the other the other group that I'm interested to see, 408 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: and when we're having a conversation about moves that still 409 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: could be made potentially is the cornerbacks group. 410 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: For me, and you know I've mentioned this before. 411 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm with you and seeing all those players on the field, 412 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: especially now that you have the full arsenal of offensive 413 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: pass catchers right now, You've got d Hop out there, 414 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: You've got Zay Bait, the tight ends. You know, they 415 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a tough assignment these corners, so they're 416 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: gonna get a good test. 417 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: And I think that that's a group. I really like 418 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: that group. 419 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: Obviously, Nate Wiggins, you know, in the step that we 420 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: expect him to take in year two. Marlin we know 421 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: who and what Marlin is, but really it's that third 422 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: corner and who's who is. 423 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: That gonna be? 424 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: Chida bay Oozia is dealing with a minor ankle injury, 425 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: so now it's you know, maybe he'll be back on 426 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: the field. We don't know how minor exactly that is. 427 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: Hopefully he's back on the field for mini camp, but 428 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: if he's not, that's really an opportunity now for somebody 429 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: to kind of plant their flag at that other outside 430 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: cornerback spot, whether that be a Jalen Armor Davis, TJ Tampa. 431 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: Those would be the leading contenders, and that even the 432 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: sixth round rookies. So we'll get some good reps in 433 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: there against these Ravens wide receivers. So that to me, 434 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: especially as we frame this in the context of all 435 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: the banter about the possibility of adding a premier corner 436 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: to this roster, which John Harball didn't roll rule out. 437 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 4: Or asked about that this past week. 438 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: You know, he said to me, it's not a or situation, 439 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: it's an and a situation. Can you add You have 440 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: all these young players that I already mentioned that you 441 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: really like, and maybe you can add a veteran. You know, 442 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens feel like they can't have enough or too 443 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: much depth at corner and so this week at mini camp, 444 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: I think, especially that number three cornerback spot, it's going 445 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: to give the Raves an indication. 446 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 4: Of whether they need to go out and make a move. 447 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: Well, when we talked at the start of the off 448 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: season program, you and I had the conversation of adding 449 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: a corner and I said I felt like that was 450 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: the position that that would be most likely if the 451 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: Ravens were to add there. The other one is safety. 452 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: The third safety spot, and they're connected. 453 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: Well when we kind of talked about adding a nickel 454 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: corner slat corner, and you know, especially now with the 455 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: ar Darius injury, whether that impacts that, I don't know necessarily, 456 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: If that's. 457 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm going to be so rigid and like, yeah, 458 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: I agree corner vers outside corner. I think a corner 459 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: is the one. And especially like my thing was always, 460 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: this is an opportunity for a Jalen armor Davis, It's 461 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: an opportunity for TJ. Tampa. 462 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: It's an opportunity for the two rookies. Now there's six round. 463 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: Picks, so it would be a tall order for either 464 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: of them to like be thrust into a significant role. 465 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 4: As a rookie. 466 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: But this is the opportunity for them, but also for 467 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: for Cheeto, Like he came in and the Ravens really 468 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: like him, but he hasn't been out there consistently during 469 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: these open oh TA practices and he's now dealing with 470 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: this ankle injury. Do they feel like we need to 471 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: get more depth at that spot. 472 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: And Cheeta is a guy who's you know, dealt with 473 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: some injuries in recent years and so you know, seeing 474 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: him kind of nicked up here at the beginning. You know, 475 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: it happened during practice. It's really no fault of his own, 476 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: but it's kind of leads you to the all right, 477 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: how can much can we count? You know, can we 478 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: count on Cheeto playing seventeen? You know? Or do we 479 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: feel like we need to bolster that? And then on 480 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: top of that, you know, I like, you know how 481 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: I feel about jelln Harbor Davis. I don't need to 482 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: say it for the hundred time. I think the guy's talented, 483 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: but again another case of cann how healthy can he stay? 484 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 4: And then and. 485 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: He's also working in at safety a little bit too, which. 486 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: Is exactly development for him, right and uh and then 487 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: TJ Tampa. You know, John Harvel talked about you seem flashes, 488 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: but it's kind of consistency, which is always the case 489 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: of the second year player, especially one that missed a 490 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: lot of his action as rookie year. So I think 491 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: it's a big week for the cornerback group. 492 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it would not surprise me at 493 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: the Ravens end up adding a corner and and who 494 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: that ends up being, of course, we're getting on. 495 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: I think it could be as big as Jaii Alexander, 496 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: who was released by the Packers last week. 497 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: We always get, you know, questions about whenever a big 498 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: name guy just chalk it up, hits the market. It 499 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: comes up all the time. U jaire Alexander is a guy. 500 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: We actually got a question from John Stremmel who emailed 501 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net, 502 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: and he asked us about the possibility of adding Jaii 503 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: Alexand I'm sure there's plenty of suitors who are interested 504 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: in him. 505 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 506 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the truth is, like, what's the price tag, 507 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: how much wiggle room do the Ravens have with the 508 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: salary cap? Where does he where does he want to play? 509 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: Like a veteran player, Pro Bowl caliber player like that 510 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: is going to have lots of preferences on what the 511 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: defense looks like and here where he wants to play. 512 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of factors in the mix there 513 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: that I just I don't know the answers to. 514 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: I honestly think that it makes a lot of sense 515 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: on paper, I really do. I think that connection, I mean, 516 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: that's a component doesn't hurt, you know. I think that 517 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: that he's so close with Lamar certainly doesn't hurt. The 518 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: Ravens have brought in guys that Lamar wanted and so 519 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: I think also obviously a super talented guy. To me, 520 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens are in win now mode. It's it's it's 521 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. You have a stacked roster, and if 522 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: you think that this guy can put you over the 523 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: top and really cement you know, the Cornerback Group as 524 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: an elite group, you know it's worth taking a shot. 525 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: And I think from a contract perspective, it's it's going 526 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: to be a shorter deal. I think that the Ravens 527 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: they have so many moving parts contractually as we already 528 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: got done talking about, including with Lamar, and they have 529 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: some salary cap boga room as it stands now, Like, 530 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: I think that you could you could make a deal 531 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: work financially. You know, jay R Alexander's gonna want to 532 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: play on a team, a winning team, all those things. 533 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: Like there's just a you can check a lot of 534 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: boxes where this makes this makes sense? 535 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: Hm, Well, the Ravens have gone done that with Like 536 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: it's it's a different situation, not the exact same situation, 537 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 2: but like last year they went and they traded for 538 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: Tredevius White, who was a Pro Bowl player in Buffalo, 539 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: and then he was out in LA and hadn't really 540 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: been able to crack the lineup and and so he 541 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: was available like on the cheap for considering the resume 542 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: that he had. 543 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: I think he would be cheaper than what it would 544 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: cost to bring in Jay. 545 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: It's a different situation. 546 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 2: But like my point is, just like just a few 547 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: months ago, they went and they got a former Pro 548 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: Bowl player to add to this defense, and he ended 549 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: up playing snaps important snaps in a playoff game, and 550 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: that was like the Ravens then lost Brandon Stevens, who 551 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: was a starter so well. 552 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, there was rumors that the Ravens 553 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: were interested in Ji r Xander last year's trade deadline. 554 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: So there's been a little smoke on this front before, 555 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: which there was smoke on Derrick Henry front two years ago. 556 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been examples to that. 557 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: So, I mean the other one, the other one who's 558 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: who's on the market is Jalen Ramsey in Miami. Now 559 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 2: that's a trade situation unless the Dolphins were ultimately just 560 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: to release him. But they've been they've been pretty vocal 561 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: and honest about the fact that they're looking for a 562 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: trade partner. But now it's been the case really all offseason. 563 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: Hasn't happened yet. But he's the other big name Pro 564 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: Bowl corner. I mean, you have two former Pro Bowl 565 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: corners who are on the market. One is actually a 566 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 2: free agent and the ones on the trade market. That 567 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: doesn't always happen, but two big name guys who are 568 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: available if you wanted to, you know, to go fishing 569 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: in those waters. 570 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I believe Jeff Zubeck of The Athletic Reporter that he 571 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: hasn't really heard anything between the Ravens and Ramsey in 572 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: terms of trade dialogue working on that kind of deal. 573 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: So to me, Alexander being that he's been released, is 574 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: the more likely of the two. 575 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: If if if either likely. 576 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's another factor too, if it does happen. 577 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: That's July fourth, two pm. 578 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh on burgers on the grill. Yep, just the cell phone. 579 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't need the cell phone right now. 580 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: We're good. 581 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: We're flitting burgers right when I'm er. It's cannonball into 582 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 4: the pool. That's it. 583 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: The cell phone's over in the bag, you know, on 584 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: the pic the table I'm vowerady to do the cannonball. 585 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: That's oh yeah, blow it up. 586 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: You're swimming in the pool. 587 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: The Gruden grinders out there, We're gonna be ready. We'll 588 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: be ready if that move happens. 589 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: Well, so we'll see about your buddy. 590 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah right, you're just as likely to be guilty of. 591 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: Of taking it. 592 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: So the last thing that I'm interested in watching at 593 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: uh at mini camp here is the kicker battle. I mean, 594 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: it's the next stage of the kicking battle between rookies 595 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: Tyler Loop and John Hoyle. And then you know, we 596 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: saw it during OTAs and there are ups and downs 597 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: kind of for both guys. You know, both times, both 598 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: guys had really good days and then there are some misses. 599 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: I think generally speaking, it's been good. You know, I thought, 600 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: I think both players have kind of shown, Hey, you 601 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: don't need to be in a rush to bring in 602 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: a veteran if if you need one at all. Right, 603 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: and uh, but now with with all the veterans on 604 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: the field and Lamar Jackson watching and and everybody there, 605 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: uh and you know, just mandatory mini camp, the temperature 606 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: rate rises a little bit. 607 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: Now it's the next stage for these guys. 608 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: In that competition, and what is is the most important competition. 609 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 4: We can talk about left guard all we want, but. 610 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, the most important competition right now at 611 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: Ravens practices is at kicker. 612 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is. 613 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: And that's the other one we talk about adding veterans. 614 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: It's like, these guys have the opportunity to show John Harbaugh, 615 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: Eric DaCosta the organization going into this break before training camp, 616 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: you don't need to go out and get a veteran. 617 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: You've got. 618 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: Both of them are out to prove that they can 619 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: win the job and that the answer is here in 620 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: house already with these two young kickers. So it is 621 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: it is a really important position. It's the first time 622 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: we've been having these conversations and in more than a decade. 623 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: And so these guys, you know, they've they've got a 624 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: big opportunity here and I think both of them are 625 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: going to be eager to show that they're up to 626 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: the challenge and and the Ravens are taking a hard 627 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: look there. It's it's critical, it's you know, so. 628 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 4: It decides a lot of games. 629 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: Yes, we've seen that, of course, here we've seen how 630 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: the kicking game can decide can decide outcomes, and these 631 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: young kickers have the opportunity to show that they're ready 632 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: for that, that they're ready for that challenge and the 633 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: Ravens need him to be. 634 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: And if you haven't done so already, go back and 635 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: read our feature story on Tyler Loop written by. 636 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 4: Matt Ryan eslaware former editorial intern. 637 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: So a really good read there that'll kind of introduce 638 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: you to Tyler and how he ticks, what makes him tick, 639 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: and so go check that out. It was published on 640 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: the website and app on Thursday, So a really good 641 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: read that I highly recommend. 642 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as always, there's lots to talk about. You 643 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: can email us your questions and thoughts at the lounge 644 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Will continue breaking down 645 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: everything we see out there on the practice field this 646 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: week and also plan to catch up with some guys 647 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: for interviews before the break here. So a lot going on. 648 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate you listening and we will talk with you 649 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: again soon