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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal holl that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm for it.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edith State is that?

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Speaker 3: Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 2: And them and tie Dan Robstein.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's talk Oklahoma. I would love to

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Speaker 1: talk Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: Want to talk some Oklahoma football today with you with

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Speaker 4: a friend Eddie Redosovich from over at Sooner Scoop. We

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Speaker 4: had Eddie on back in twenty twenty three. It was

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Speaker 4: a lively conversation about where the Sooners were at. Things

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Speaker 4: have changed since then, at least in some regard. We

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Speaker 4: will go into that and much much more. I'm excited

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Speaker 4: to continue whatever we're calling this series. I don't think

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Speaker 4: But let's just get a vibe check on Oklahoma. Man.

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Speaker 2: I am thrilled to take a vibe check on Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: because they have been fascinating under bread Venables. There have

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Speaker 2: been incredible highs' not even last year, like destroying Alabama.

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Speaker 2: All during the complexion of the College Football Playoff. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you could argue Vanderbilt, you could argue Oklahoma whatever in

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Speaker 2: the way that they did that joining the SEC and

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Speaker 2: closer games, winning games, entertaining games more often than they

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Speaker 2: it just it's just not fun when Oklahoma isn't just

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to learn more, to talk more, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we've already established that were material girls

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Speaker 4: here on this show. Of course, into the John Mattier transfer.

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Speaker 4: But it's not just him, it's Jade not it's been

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Speaker 4: GM Jim Naggy, formerly the executive director of the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Also notably had that opinion that floated around on social media,

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, I remember there was a certain discourse. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that like NFL scouts should have an ability to weigh

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Speaker 4: this is getting a little too far Afield. We are

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Speaker 4: Let's bring on our good friend from Soonerscoop dot com,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, my friend. How are you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well. A lot of tension around these parts

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable coach. I think that that goes without saying everything

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Speaker 1: Been well established at the offense.

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Speaker 4: You've got a line that wasn't very good, you got

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Speaker 2: Was there something about like if you're going to hold

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Speaker 2: if anything that we can say Brent Vennables took a

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Speaker 3: But there's just not a whole lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: And he's like that, he's an oh you guy, right,

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Speaker 3: development from those guys, which kind of falls at the

432
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 3: feet of DeMarco. You know, you look at the wide

433
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: receiver re unit. Nick Anderson was beat up all year

434
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: last year. Jolo Ferouke, you know, same kind of situation.

435
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 3: He ran into the injury bug. Any of the guys

436
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 3: that you talk about the wide receiver position when they

437
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 3: were injured, but the freshman Zion Kearney of the world,

438
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: they have to take that next step and carry on

439
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: to another one of those guys, Zion Ragan's is another

440
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 3: one of those guys that played last year that you know,

441
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: the pressures really kind of on that coaching staff, especially

442
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the football, to get some development,

443
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 3: get guys that can be some tools that Ben rbuckle

444
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 3: and Jaw Mattier can use, because I think that if

445
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: you look at what Ben r Buckle has been able

446
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: to do, he's going to get the ball to the

447
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 3: talent and if you can just start there and you

448
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 3: have a quarterback that has super accurate arm like John

449
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 3: Mattier does, I think that all of a sudden, you're

450
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: going to look at an offense that was miserable a

451
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: year ago that really takes a massive step this next

452
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 3: season just by executing, just simply by executing the offense

453
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 3: and a lot of times last year with an offensive

454
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 3: line that Oklahoma threw out there which was kind of

455
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: irregular under Bill beata Bow For the most part, I

456
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 3: think he's notoriously known as one of the better offensive

457
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: lineman coaches in the country. You should be in better shape.

458
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: Last year, there were times where Jackson or where Michael

459
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: Hawkins would catch the ball and the play was over

460
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: within a second and a half because nobody was blocking

461
00:21:59,240 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 3: up front.

462
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: What is what in terms of what you're seeing, what

463
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: you're hearing internally? How are vibes right? Is there a

464
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: sense of positivity that, like we love coach Venables right,

465
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: the offensive line loves this, the you know, the safeties

466
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: love this. Is there, you know, fellowship, brotherhood, good vibe.

467
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 2: Like you can say that like we're bringing in these

468
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: running backs and these transfers, but if only half the

469
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: team wants to be there and is enthusiastic about playing

470
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: for the Sooners, you're still not going to get past

471
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: six and seven. Do the vibe seem manageable?

472
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 3: That's what's made these last three years so kind of

473
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 3: confusing to a certain extent, because I think that you

474
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 3: can make the argument from a culture perspective, from a

475
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: program perspective, from a top to bottom within the coaching

476
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 3: staff to the players to the lowest guy on the roster.

477
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: It seems like this is maybe one of the better

478
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: cultures Oklahoma's had in a long time. And that's even

479
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: going through some of the years where they were extremely

480
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: good and playing in college football playoffs and things like that.

481
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: So everything off the field has been excellent, and you know,

482
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: I think that you know, one of the things you

483
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: probably point out if you were on the coaching staff,

484
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: or Brent Vinibles would point out is the development of

485
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 3: young men and you know, no trouble off the field

486
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: and things like that that you know, it kind of

487
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: snuck into the program a little bit under Lincoln that

488
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: you know, were handled there wasn't anything major. But at

489
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: the same time, there hasn't been any of that, and

490
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: you know, I think that, like the off season has

491
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 3: been one of those times when you cover Oklahoma it's

492
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: like you just kind of expect somebody's going to get

493
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: a dui or somebody's gonna get into a fight on

494
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 3: campus corner. Stuff like that happens on a college campus

495
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 3: in the summer. But there's been really none of that.

496
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 3: And I think that that's what makes it so tough

497
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: when you talk about Brent Vinnables in the future of

498
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: what's to come for Oklahoma is it's purely about on

499
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: field performance. And everybody loves Brent. He you know, when

500
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 3: he returned and the welcome that he got at the airport.

501
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 3: That made national headlines and kind of a rejuvenation of

502
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: the program. After Lincoln left to go out to Los Angeles,

503
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 3: it felt like, you know, everybody wants Brent to succeed

504
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: around here. Sure, but at the same time, when you

505
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 3: throw out another six and seven and you go down

506
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: to the Cotton Bowl and you get embarrassed to Texas again,

507
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 3: and on top of Texas now playing in two consecutive

508
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: college football semi finals and then the embarrassment that comes

509
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: with the SEC, it makes twenty twenty five extremely important

510
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: for this program moving forward. And you know, I think

511
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: that there are some good vibes within the program, as

512
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: I told you guys earlier, like almost kind of strangely positive,

513
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: even more positive than it probably needs to be, because

514
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: you are coming off of what you are the last

515
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: three years, so everything like that's great, which makes it

516
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: even more kind of confusing and hard to have the

517
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: print Vitable's conversation. If they have to get to that

518
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 3: point at the end of the season, I think.

519
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: You know, it's an easy transition because you know, I

520
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: think everybody needs to take care of their own house

521
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: before looking around the neighborhood. You're in a new neighborhood

522
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: as an Oklahoma person, and obviously, you know, offense has

523
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: been the name of the game in terms of remodeling

524
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: and upgrading. When you look around the SEC, when you

525
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: look at this year's schedule, when you'd get a sense

526
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: for not just Texas, but obviously Texas measures itself against

527
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and vice versa. What sense do you get when

528
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: you measure up where Oklahoma is in every facet in roster, construction,

529
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: and coaching staff in environments. This is post first year

530
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: in the SEC. Oklahoma always stacked up well against the

531
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: Big Twelve. Where is the stack right now with Oklahoma

532
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: and the SEC?

533
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: I think it has the passion to get there. But

534
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: I do think that, you know, with everything that built

535
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: up over the three years that led up into Oklahoma

536
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 3: formally making the you know, debut, I guess in the SEC,

537
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of people around here

538
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: that thought that, you know, Oklahoma's going to just step

539
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 3: in and be able to compete like they had in

540
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve. And to a certain extent, I think

541
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 3: Oklahoma became a mad kind of a victim of their

542
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 3: own success in a way. I think a lot of

543
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: people within the athletic department, within the coach, or within

544
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: the football offices had just kind of become used to

545
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: this idea that they were going to be able to

546
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: I don't want to say just show up and win,

547
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: but that's certainly what they did for a good two

548
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: decades in the Big Twelve.

549
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: Show up and belong right.

550
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And I think last year was a little

551
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: bit of an eye opener in terms of when you

552
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: go down to Auburn and Auburn hasn't had a ton

553
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: of success, it feels like they're headed in the right

554
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 3: direction under Hugh Freeze. Makes it kind of interesting with

555
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: the Jackson Arnold situation down there now with them come

556
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: to Norman next year. But I think even like one

557
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: of those trips was kind of an eye opener and Okay,

558
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: this is really kind of different, and it was something

559
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: that Oklahoma fans I kind of mocked to a certain

560
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: extent of, Oh, it just means more of these people.

561
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: I mean, they're flat out crazy, and I think that

562
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: Oklahoma fans they feel like they are on par with that.

563
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I do think that there

564
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: are things that Oklahoma probably has had to look in

565
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: the mirror a little bit, have some of those tough conversations,

566
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: and you know, at the end of the day, I

567
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: think it's all headed in the right direction. It's it's

568
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: going to just be tough. When you look at the

569
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five football schedule and you know, any type

570
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 3: of metric that you put on it, it's going to

571
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: be one of the toughest, one of the toughest schedules

572
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: in the in the country, and especially when you throw

573
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 3: in Michigan in Week two. So it's it's super super

574
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 3: interesting right now within the Oklahoma football program because you

575
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: do talk about the culture, you do talk about, you know,

576
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 3: the positivity on the offensive side of the football, meeting

577
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: what people believe to be another really good defense under

578
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 3: Brent and you know, Oklahoma's kind of become that sexy

579
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: school of they weren't very good a year ago. Maybe

580
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: they make this major jump. There's pathways to see that.

581
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 3: But I feel like we were kind of in that

582
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 3: same situation a year ago and talking about, yeah, Jackson

583
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: and Oklahoma they could surprise the people in the SEC

584
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: and then they fell kind of flat on their face.

585
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of people that like the momentum

586
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: like the positivity, but we're going to need to be

587
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: able to see it come September, and I think you'll

588
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: probably find out rather quickly if Oklahoma can take that

589
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: next step, and especially in Week two against Michigan.

590
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: What is the bar that you feel Oklahoma needs to

591
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: clear to you know, ward off a fan mutiny.

592
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: It's real, That's that's a million dollar question. I would

593
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: say probably somewhere around nine wins is tough. I would

594
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: say eight wins probably everybody feels safe. If you're having

595
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: around that seven and six, six and seven, again, you're

596
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: going to have just really really incredibly tough questions to ask.

597
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

598
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about Oklahoma fans? Do they feel like the

599
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: move to the SEC was worth it?

600
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: I think for the most part, yeah, Because I think

601
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: that when you turn on the television and anything everybody

602
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: wants to talk about is the Southeastern Conference, then yeah,

603
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: when you talk about the fan base that just wants

604
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: to be able to show up to work on Monday

605
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: and talking about, you know, Oklahoma kick the hell out

606
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: of whoever over the weekend, then yeah, I think that

607
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: there's some of the Oklahoma fan base, particularly on the

608
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: message boards, that are rather vocal that would have preferred

609
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: to stay in the Big Twelve. But at the end

610
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: of the day, when you look at where the college

611
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: football's headed as a whole, you want to be in

612
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: the Big Boys club. And I think that it's probably

613
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: for the long term better for Oklahoma as a program

614
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: to have made that move, learned some of the tough

615
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: lessons that they did a year ago, and really kind

616
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: of have to answer the questions that you probably didn't

617
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: have to answer because winning cures all and they were

618
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: able to win at such a high level, and particularly

619
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: over the last you know, ten to fifteen years, have

620
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: the success that they did, particularly on the offensive side

621
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: of the football that you know, I think that they

622
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: just kind of were put off because almost winning football

623
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: games and everybody felt so comfortable about being in the

624
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: Big twelve. So yeah, to answer your question, I think

625
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: for the most part, when you look at the schedule,

626
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: as tough as it is, but you know LSU's coming

627
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: to town, and you know you're going to Alabama. Alabama

628
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: came to town last year. You're going back out to

629
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: Knoxville where Oklahoma wasn't twenty fifteen, it's exciting. I mean,

630
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: I not to just completely bash the Big twelve. But

631
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: it's certainly more exciting than a trip up to Aims

632
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: or wherever.

633
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: Were there any let's say, notable developments, standout performances, anything

634
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 4: of that nature from guys this spring that really caught

635
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 4: your attention that we should be aware of.

636
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Geovanni Gibson really was making a lot

637
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: of noise, and he was a guy that I think

638
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: when you look at the measurables about sixty three one

639
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: ninety ish, he was a guy that I think that

640
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: they had kind of felt like they found a diamond

641
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: under the rough and it was really kind of a

642
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: gut punch, and especially at that wide receiver position that

643
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: we talked about that had so many injuries a year ago,

644
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: thinking oh boy, here we go again. I think they

645
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: feel like he could come back maybe by October, maybe

646
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: by Texas week in the second weekend of October. I

647
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: think that's probably best case scenario. He had made some waves. Obviously,

648
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: John Mattier in the way that he stepped in made

649
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: some ways. But when you look at the defensive side

650
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: of the ball, I think that you kind of start

651
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: with Kendall Daniels coming in from Oklahoma State kind of

652
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: a perfect Cheetah for what they want to be able

653
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: to do. His versatility and being able to play safety

654
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: or come down and you know, cover guys in the slot.

655
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: I think is going to be kind of fun to watch.

656
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: I know that when we talked to Wes Goodwin, who

657
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: came over from Clemson and coached Isaiah Simmons alongside Brent

658
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: at Clemson, they're really really excited about what he's been

659
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: able to do in the defense. Danny Akoye is a

660
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: guy that was actually kind of a fun story. He

661
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: was a homeschool kid out of the Tulsa area, was

662
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: extremely highly ranked, needed to develop a year ago. They

663
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: feel like he could take a big step this season.

664
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: And you know, I think you look at the safety group,

665
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: Michael Boganowski, Reggie Powers, both guys that they're having to

666
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: obviously fill the place of Billy Bowman. They're really excited

667
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: about both those guys, and I think that when you

668
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 3: look at the defensive side of the ball, it's just

669
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: it's kind of amazing that everything has just flipped on

670
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: a you know, one to eighty basically from where they

671
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: were with Lincoln and defensively and obviously generational offenses versus

672
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: where they are now with just trying to get a

673
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: good offense and a defense. They feel like it could

674
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: really kind of carry to carry them to some major,

675
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: major wins next season. So, you know, it's kind of

676
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: fun to see what this thing's going to be because

677
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: there are so many questions. But when you talk about

678
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball, they for the first

679
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: time it feels like in a while have some actual

680
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: foundation that they'd built here over the first three years.

681
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of guys within the system that

682
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: are looking to make that jump that a lot of

683
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: players make in that third year under Brent Venables. So

684
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: very excited about the defense to see what it is

685
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: despite losing some key contribute from a year ago with

686
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: Stotsman and Bowman and Woody Washington. Ethan Downs was a

687
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: really productive player for them on at defensive end as well,

688
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: So it's kind of night and day difference. And you know,

689
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: Jayden Jackson, obviously as the true freshman last year, what

690
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: he was able to do was really really exciting. And

691
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: then the whole David Stone drama, a kid that came

692
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: in with him from IMG, you know, getting what happened

693
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: there by the way, just craziness in twenty twenty five

694
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: college football. I think that it was a situation that

695
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: he had some people in his corner that wanted him

696
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: to you know, for the most part, he's basically taken

697
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: a pay cut by coming back to Oklahoma, and I

698
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: think that they built in some things like, if you

699
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: take these steps, you're gonna beat back to where you

700
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: are in il compensation. And I think that you know,

701
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: David certainly, I remember it happened on a Friday night,

702
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: and we had some people that had talked to people

703
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: in his camp and he was in tears about you know,

704
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: just the flat out decision to enter the portal and

705
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: then it all kind of culminates on a Sunday night,

706
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: you know, forty eight hours later, basically, so there's still

707
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: excitement about him. And you know, I think what Todd

708
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: Bates has been able to do with the defensive line,

709
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: it's kind of remarkable. It's kind of gone quietly that

710
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: he's been able to build the defensive line unit that

711
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: has some dudes on it that you know, for the

712
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: most part, and especially on the back end of that

713
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley era in Norman defense was just such an

714
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: optional shrug your shoulders thing that they didn't really have

715
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: a defensive tackle that you could point to and say, yeah,

716
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: that's a guy. Now you at least have three or

717
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: four guys on the interior as well as you know,

718
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: the guys on the outside, and obviously getting r Mason

719
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: Thomas back, you know, there's a lot of people that

720
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: think he could be one of the premier pass rushers

721
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: in the country this year. So a lot of excitement

722
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: on that side of the football.

723
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: When you look at Oklahoma schedule this year and you

724
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: look at perhaps the thing that did actually ail the

725
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: defense last year, if you were going to nitpick, it's

726
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: they did give up some big passes, right, the explosive

727
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: passing plays, you know, as good as the pass rush was,

728
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: and they were a wall against the run against the

729
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: run last season. When you look at this your schedule,

730
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: there's not an obviously deep roster of definitely strong quarterbacks

731
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: that we know of. We'll see, you like with Beau Pribula,

732
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: We'll see with Arch Manning, We'll see with whoever Michigan

733
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: trots out in week two. We'll see how Jackson Narnold

734
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: and Auburn works out. Is there hope that this should

735
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 2: be a secondary and pass rush that works in concert

736
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 2: together better than where they were last season.

737
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And you know, when you talk

738
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: about the quarterback position, I think a lot of people

739
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: going into the spring were going to be kind of

740
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: interested when the portal opened if they were going to

741
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: be active with any cornerbacks from the portal, and there

742
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: were guys in there, but I think that there were

743
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: also guys that had a couple of years left. There

744
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: was nobody that could come in, give you a year

745
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: and then move out. Because they do feel extremely excited

746
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: about some of the young kids in the secondary and

747
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: particularly at the quarterback position. Cortland Gilliery was a kid

748
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: that came in as a true freshman the Mats of

749
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: Waves during the spring. Eli Bowen Peyton Bowen's brother, one

750
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: of the other safeties. Eli started as a freshman last

751
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: year at cornerback. That feel like he could have a really,

752
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: really nice career at Oklahoma. You know, a guy at

753
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: Gentry Williams measurable wise when you look at him out

754
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 3: on the football field, he could be a draftable guy.

755
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: Not necessarily a first round or maybe even a Day

756
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: two guy, but I think he would definitely be somebody

757
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: that could get drafted because of his measurables. There's always

758
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: been a lot of hype around him. He hasn't been

759
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: able to stay on the field. It's like, yeah, you

760
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: would love to have him out there, but you can't

761
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: just trust the idea that he's going to be healthy.

762
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: He sat out a little bit of spring. He seems

763
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: to be headed in the right direction just from a

764
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: health standpoint going into the season. They feel like he's

765
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: going to be a starter at one of the positions.

766
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: And then Jacoby Johnson's a guy that not a whole

767
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: lot of people probably know, but I think that he's

768
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: going to be a guy by the end of next

769
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 3: season that you look at the Oklahoma defense and he's

770
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: certainly going to be one of those cornerbacks that I

771
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: think people will be talking about a little bit more so. Yeah,

772
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: and then the safety group extremely excited about them. Peyton

773
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: Bowen is a former five star kid. Robert Spools Jennings

774
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: is another guy that has been in the system for

775
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: you know, I guess three four years now. So it

776
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: will be very important for them to be able to

777
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: defend the past because you look at the Missouri games,

778
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: a great example getting beat down the field, and that's

779
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: how it kind of sparked everything that happened in the

780
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 3: final two minutes. So they're excited about they're excited about

781
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: the pass rush, and they should be a pretty good

782
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: marriage here in Brent's fourth year.

783
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: Let's stick with I guess a little bit of what

784
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 2: you just said. You've watched Oklahoma offenses. You've watched Oklahoma

785
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: defenses near the end of games where you've said they've

786
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: got this. You've watched them where you've said to yourself,

787
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: there's no way they're getting off the field. There's no

788
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: way they're marching down the field down four with three

789
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 2: and a half minutes left and this thing is over.

790
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: What is the state of your brain, of the Oklahoma

791
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: fans brain when it comes to late high leverage. You know,

792
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 2: if Oklahoma was losing a bunch of these games comfortably

793
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 2: last year, if they're improving that they're going to find

794
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: themselves in fifty to fifty spots on the road at home. Whatever,

795
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: where is your confidence that Brenton Vinnables and this staff

796
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 2: obviously Ben Arbuckle as TVD, they're just like, oh, they're

797
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: going to be prepared for this moment. They might lose,

798
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: but they're prepared for it. What's the state of that scary?

799
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: I mean, they've worn in a whole lot of those

800
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: games a year ago, right exactly where they lost. I

801
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: think that you know, the late game situations for Oklahoma

802
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: and particularly you know, they brought Austin Welchin, a kicker

803
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: from Kenesaw State. They had a freshman, Liam Evans, battling

804
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: for the job in spring, and that was like one

805
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: of the big takeaways going into the portal was they

806
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: got to go get a kicker, and they got Tate

807
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: Sandel from utsa really accurate guy, which I don't think

808
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: anybody is going to have a problem with. But there

809
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: is still a little bit of an unknown just in

810
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: terms of all right, when the lights are on, can

811
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: you go make a forty two yarder to win a

812
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: game in Tuscaloosa? Can you make a forty two yarder

813
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: to win a game at Kneeland? So you know, But

814
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: the thing about it is they're gonna be in some

815
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: tight games. If they're gonna make this jump from where

816
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: people think that they you know, should or what they

817
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: were a year ago, you're gonna be playing in type

818
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: ball games. So I guess we'll wait to find out,

819
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: which is scary to a certain extent because I know that,

820
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: you know, one of the things that you could probably

821
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: criticize Brent for in the first three years was in

822
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: game coaching, just in terms of the little things, timeouts

823
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: and you know, bad penalties, things of that nature. So

824
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: you know it hasn't gone well. You would expect it

825
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: to be a little bit better this season. And I

826
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: think that, you know, just having somebody like a Kevin

827
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: Wilson coming back as an analyst, just having somebody that

828
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: you can not necessarily just throw everything to, but just

829
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: another ear or another voice in your head. It's not

830
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: necessarily a bad thing in this case. And when they

831
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: lost Matt Wells a year ago, he went up to

832
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: Manhattan to help Chris Climbing on the offensive side of

833
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: the ball. I think they did lose something and maybe

834
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: that didn't play out or you didn't see that actually

835
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: on the school board a year ago because of the

836
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: games that they were in there were getting their ass kicked.

837
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think that there was

838
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: something lost there, and you know it should be it

839
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: should be a pretty comfortable position for Brent and for

840
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 3: this staff to be able to kind of build off

841
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: of going into this season.

842
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: So you need the grown ups in the room, but

843
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 2: even more importantly, you need the kids in the room

844
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: and the best kids. What is, for lack of a

845
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: better term, the state of the Oklahoma bag? What is

846
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: the state of the bag? How far away are they?

847
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 2: How much room do they need to grow by? If

848
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: at all? What is the state of the Scrooge McDuck

849
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: vault somewhere in the universe of Oklahoma football got you?

850
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: Let me look up the oil prizes real quick. Well,

851
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: it's good, I would say, you know, compared to everybody

852
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: else in college football, very very good. Exception, you don't

853
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: go out and get some of the guys that they did.

854
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: You don't go out and get a jo Materier or

855
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: a Jade not if you have no money. Right, But

856
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: I think when you compare it to Ohio State, or

857
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: you compare it to Texas, obviously they don't have the

858
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: type of money that you can just say or call

859
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: somebody up and say, hey, we need five million dollars

860
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: wired over by the end of Friday and somebody says,

861
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: no problem, will take care of it.

862
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Sure, of course, to get held in Brant money that's right, right.

863
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: Get to get where Oklahoma wants to be though as

864
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: a program and where the fan base thinks that they

865
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: should be in that upper rachealon of college football. You

866
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: could say that it needs to improve, but you know,

867
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: I think that for so long, you know here over

868
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. I wouldn't say for so long,

869
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: but over the last couple of years. You know, particularly

870
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: in Brent's era where they're thrown out some six and sevens. Uh.

871
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: You know, the Oklahoma is broke, you know, candor or

872
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: chatter out on social media. You know, it's out there

873
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: so much that I think that there are some people

874
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: that think that Oklahoma is broke. I don't think that's

875
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: the case. But do they have the money like a

876
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: Texas or do they have the money like a an

877
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: LSU Even that it sounds like, I know that what

878
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: they put together like ten million dollars in the spring portal.

879
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's the case. But I do

880
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: think that they have positioned themselves well. And if you

881
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: start winning and you take those steps. It's kind of crazy,

882
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: how when you win football games around here, where all

883
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: of a sudden, money starrets showing up checks start showing

884
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 3: up in the mail.

885
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, how is the organization behind the

886
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: scenes right, because you see a lot of the conflicting

887
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: reports and there's multiple collectives. Obviously things are becoming more

888
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: official now with the House settlement. Is is everything buttoned

889
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: up in the way it should be in terms of

890
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: who's making those calls, what's the goal, how's the communication?

891
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: So what?

892
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 2: I guess what's the state of the business of the bag?

893
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oklahoma's collective one Oklahoma has. You know, they've kind of,

894
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: I guess for the most part, emerged. They're they're the

895
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: Oklahoma and I think that they've had some pretty good

896
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: leadership over there. It seems like everybody's on the same page.

897
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: I know that, you know, not to say that Oklahoma

898
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: and Jim Naggy and the front office have been just

899
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: completely involved in it, but I do think there's good

900
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: communication and what they're wanting to be able to do.

901
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: I do think that Oklahoma for a long time, from

902
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: an administrative standpoint, under jokes to Gleione, they've been waiting

903
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: for the House Settlement and for everything to kind of

904
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: become official, and that way, they've been kind of ramping

905
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: up their efforts to meet whatever is to come with

906
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 3: the with the court case. So you know, I would

907
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: say it's it's good. I would say that it's moving

908
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: in the right direction. But I think, just like anything

909
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 3: else right now, you know, as things turn and as

910
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: things change, it seems from day to day or from

911
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: month to month, you got to keep up with the Joneses.

912
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: And there's still going to be schools out there that

913
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: are finding ways to cut corners, and that's just not

914
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: really an athletic department that Jobistiglione is run looking to

915
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: be able to cut corners, which you know, I think

916
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: as things kind of erupted a year ago on the

917
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: football side, is when for the first time that I

918
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: can remember since he was hired in ninety eight, that

919
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: people started looking around and saying, no, wait a second,

920
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: what is OK woman doing From an athletic department standpoint,

921
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: when you look at you know, the men's basketball program

922
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: under Portermosa and they started going through the spells that

923
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 3: they did in February and are they going to miss

924
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 3: the tournament again? So you know, Joe was definitely under

925
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: some fire and definitely under the hot seat for I

926
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 3: think the first time in a long time and for

927
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: a lot of people around here, that was, I guess,

928
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: in a way kind of tough to accept because they'd

929
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: been so successful not just on the football field, but

930
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: in so many different areas of the department. So, you know,

931
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: if nothing else, I think it definitely woke some people up,

932
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: and you know, kind of was either got to adjust

933
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: and get up with the times and kind of change

934
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: how you're doing things, or maybe you're going to be

935
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: looking for a job.

936
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: Fair enough, you just got back from Mexico. Final question,

937
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: how is Mexico? How is Mexico? How is your time

938
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: in Mexico? What was the best thing you ate in Mexico?

939
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 2: Are you recovered from a small, entertaining wedding?

940
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: Not recovered? I the just kind of depressing realization that

941
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: four or five days out of the country poolside, drinking

942
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: some bases all day. As fun as it sounds, it

943
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: takes a toll on this body these days. So sure

944
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: it was a great time. They had a couple of

945
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: really good restaurants within the resort that we stayed at.

946
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 3: You had a steak one night that was pretty good.

947
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: I know that's not Mexican, but I thought, okay, along

948
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: with a glass of wine and it was It was

949
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: just a lot of fun, and you know, it's something

950
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 3: that we were kind of joking about. I don't really

951
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: take a whole lot of vacations because everything kind of

952
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: blends together, from football to basketball to baseball, and then

953
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, we're headed back down to SEC

954
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: Media Day. But uh, it was fun to get away

955
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: for a couple of days. There was a lot of

956
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 3: happenings on the business side, with one rivals playing Maya

957
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: Cob on Wednesday as everything goes down and it's like, well,

958
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: of course I'm out on a golf course right now

959
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: while everybody's wondering about this massive transaction in college sports.

960
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: But it was good to get away for a couple

961
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: of days. Now it's a full throttle into the summer.

962
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: We've got a couple of like high school football big

963
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: round here. Obviously they start out here in a couple

964
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: of weeks. Textas already started up, and before you know it,

965
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: we're going to be headed down to Atlanta for SEC

966
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: Media Days. Which I love how the SEC does everything

967
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: because it kind of seems like the NFL in a way,

968
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: where there's something every couple weeks throughout the summer, and

969
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: it kind of blends together what is normally I don't

970
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: want to say boring by any means. I'm a big

971
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: baseball guys, so baseball and golf, but it kind of

972
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: blends everything together. And you know, the main passion around

973
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: here definitely football and ready to get the twenty twenty

974
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 3: five season going.

975
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: Can't wait, Eddie Rodosovich obviously sooner scoop dot Com. I'm

976
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: almost positive I pronounced that correctly. You guys killed it

977
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: absolutely so much.

978
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: Tie as a stickler. I watched it before we had

979
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: you on.

980
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 4: Last Time, Eddie, this is God's honest truth. I went

981
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 4: around to every podcast I could find you on video

982
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: clips that weren't podcasts because I have such a terrible

983
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: track record for butchering names that I wanted to get

984
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 4: it right.

985
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: So I'm terrible at it now. I'm terrible at it

986
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: to a point where now it's kind of a thing

987
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: that I do. I'm so bad at it that I

988
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: don't even really try it. When you grow up with

989
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: the name Ridosovich, like Richard so many times that just

990
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: kind of used to it. But I appreciate it. I

991
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: know my mom and dad would be really happy.

992
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's gonna be at tailgates around campus. Everybody's gonna

993
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: know it because we are hammering at hol Right, Eddie,

994
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: thank you very much for your time. I guys can't

995
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: wait to see how oh you looks this year.

996
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: All right, there we go Dan Oklahoma with Eddie Redosovich

997
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 4: over at Sooner scoop dot Com. Always good touch base

998
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 4: with him. Y talked to Little Golf before we hit

999
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: the record button, which is always nice for me. Didn't

1000
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 4: have any tennis speak for you, but it's okay. You

1001
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 4: just had Bill Connolly on him. Assuming there was a

1002
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 4: little bit of that going on before you hit records.

1003
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh well, Bill and I we text all the time.

1004
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: We have very esoteric texting tennis conversations that it's just

1005
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: too boring and specific for the solid verbal. But if

1006
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: there's interest, happy to do it on Patreo, Happy to

1007
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: bring Bill on to talk Martak Kostiak whatever. So okay,

1008
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: Oklahoma football, yeah, tie, Yeah. I cannot stress enough. And

1009
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: this was mentioned in a question to him, how strange

1010
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: it is to tune into an Oklahoma football game, whether

1011
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: it's Lincoln Riley, whether it's Bob Stoops, whether it's Brent Vnables,

1012
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: whether it's whoever Bob Stoops coming out of retirement to

1013
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: briefly coach an allibable, like to watch an offensive roster,

1014
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 2: be it besieged by injuries, be it besieged by guys

1015
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: just not working out as well as planned and anticipated

1016
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: to not have full on dudes at offensive skill position.

1017
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: After the run of what felt like less years of

1018
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: guy after guy after guy, samajp Ryan, Hollywood Brown, whatever

1019
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: that it was, remember like, I mean every coach has

1020
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: done this. For Kenny Dillingham's like, we need a kicker.

1021
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: We're doing open tryouts on the field. It felt like

1022
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: they needed that for a slot receiver. At times, for

1023
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: a tight end. They're so banged up right right, it's

1024
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: so banged up. It's you know, it's just guys not

1025
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: working out and missing stretches of time. It's just like

1026
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: those rooms were so deep before that they could weather injuries.

1027
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: And it's been very strange to watch an Oklahoma team.

1028
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 2: They're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, the defense we can

1029
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: count on. You're like, Oklahoma, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, the

1030
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: defense is fine. That's not the issue. Like, Okay, So

1031
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: dealing with Bizarrow Oklahoma these past couple of years has

1032
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: been different for me. And I'm excited about the possibility

1033
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: of ballanced Oklahoma.

1034
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

1035
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm excited about that possibility. I'm also

1036
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 4: a little bit scared two because, as we mentioned, I mean,

1037
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 4: schedules still brutal.

1038
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: It's not an easy schedule by any.

1039
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: Stretch, right And though I think Eddie's right to point

1040
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: out that vibes are high right now, vibes are good,

1041
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 4: vibes are strong because they brought in, in particular, this

1042
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 4: three headed monster of John Mattier, Ben Arbuckle, his coordinator,

1043
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: and now most recently Ja Not who comes over from

1044
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: cal to kind of give them a little bit more

1045
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: pop at quarterback and running back. Certainly, that is reason

1046
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 4: to be excited. But you did hear what Eddie said

1047
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: when I asked him the question about the pie chart.

1048
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 4: There were a lot of slices on that pied in.

1049
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you can just jump to

1050
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 4: the conclusion that adding a few pieces here and there

1051
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: is going to be enough to kind of override the

1052
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: other stuff that was wrong last season.

1053
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: Now.

1054
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: I happen to also like Brent Ventnables a lot, and

1055
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: I do think we have seen an evolution in his

1056
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 4: coaching style and the way that he's conducting himself, if

1057
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 4: only by going out and getting a GM to help

1058
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: kind of organize all this stuff behind the scenes. I

1059
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 4: do think, to answer my own question, he is getting better,

1060
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: which is a first time head coach. I think it's

1061
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: taken a little bit of time. We got to give

1062
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,959
Speaker 4: him the grace to kind of figure this thing.

1063
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: Out as he goes along. But I also don't want

1064
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: to jump too far.

1065
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: To conclusions and say that well, just because there are

1066
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 4: bigger names coming in that everybody's excited about, we can

1067
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 4: just necessarily assume they're going to be better. I don't

1068
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 4: see sec you know, I don't know if we can

1069
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 4: make that assumption.

1070
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: No, And I think there should be a lot of

1071
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: optimism around John Mattier and Ben Arbuckle. Here's a quick

1072
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: reading ty A quick polite reading of Washington State's opponents

1073
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 2: defensive sp plus from twenty twenty four. So they played

1074
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: two legitimately decent defenses in Washington and Boise State. Boise

1075
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Speaker 2: State a tough playoff team. Boise State gave Oregon all

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Speaker 2: it could handle. Otherwise, of the FBS teams ninety two,

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Speaker 2: ninety seventy eight, eighty eight, one oh six, one thirty one,

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Speaker 2: thirty two, one ten and one hundred. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of red. And so I'm not saying and these are

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Speaker 2: numbers that our opponent adjusted that you know, there was

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Speaker 2: they washed the wazoo finish like ninth in the nation

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Speaker 2: and offensive points per drive. It's gonna be a little different.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be different.

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Speaker 4: And look, I mean we didn't I don't think talk

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Speaker 4: a whole lot about the line. I mentioned it at

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Speaker 4: some point. It came up here and there. But it's

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Speaker 4: great to add pieces behind the line, but if the

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Speaker 4: line doesn't improve, the line never really meshed to the

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Speaker 4: point that I think we expected. Lastly, I think we

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Speaker 4: think highly of Bill Binbaugh, the coach, but we just

1091
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 4: did not see kind of the lift along the line

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Speaker 4: that we expected in the preseason. And I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna take more of a wait and see approach.

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Speaker 4: I am excited or still, you know, living in a

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Speaker 4: material world here in all, I'm going to name the

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Speaker 4: episode that by the way, but you know, all things

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Speaker 4: kind of laid out on the table. That's sort of

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Speaker 4: my biggest point of skepticism with Oklahoma. There there was

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Speaker 4: a lot that was wrong, and it just seems like

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Speaker 4: a lot in one off season to fix all of it,

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Speaker 4: and especially knowing that you've got so many pressure points

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Speaker 4: on this SEC schedule. I don't know, I'll steal your word.

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Speaker 4: It's fascinating. It's very fascinating to see which direction this

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Speaker 4: all heads.

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Speaker 1: So all I have look.

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Speaker 4: Check out Eddie Redosvich over at soonerscoop dot com. We

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Speaker 4: always appreciate his insight and of course his time. Check

1108
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 4: him out, hear what he has to say, follow him

1109
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Speaker 4: throughout the course of the season. Make sure you follow

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Speaker 4: hit subscribe here so that you don't miss any of

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Speaker 4: our episodes. We've been jumping around a little bit here

1112
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Speaker 4: in the off season doing all sorts of different episodes,

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Speaker 4: the talking about teams, talking about national stories. I think

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Speaker 4: next week is the week for Sark Tank. I think

1115
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Speaker 4: we're bringing sark Tank back. Sark Tank two point zero.

1116
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Speaker 4: We did it two years ago.

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Speaker 2: Was it a May show that we did. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how month we did. It was later in the summer, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was late May, early June that we

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Speaker 2: did Sark Tank.

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Speaker 4: So okay, I've started putting that together, It's gonna be

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Speaker 4: bigger and better than it was the last time. I

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Speaker 4: think I've got a little stronger of a concept for

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Speaker 4: what this episode is going to be this time around.

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Speaker 1: So more to come on that front, Hit Fall, hits

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Speaker 1: some switch that you don't miss any of our episodes.

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Speaker 2: There which mediocre impression did I do?

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Speaker 3: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Paul Christ Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, uh huh yeah?

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Speaker 2: All right? Can't wait?

1132
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: And of course for Ballers dot com is patron if

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Speaker 1: you want to further support what Dan and I do.

1134
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Speaker 4: In the meantime, though, we appreciate everybody's undying support.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging with us here in the off season.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. Enjoy your weekend. As always,

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Speaker 1: Stay solid, Peace,