WEBVTT - The Cutting Edge of Forensic Technology

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>how Stuff Works in I Love all Things Tech. And

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<v Speaker 1>in our last episode, I traced the history and evolution

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<v Speaker 1>of forensic science and how it kind of grew up

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<v Speaker 1>of out of a bunch of other kind of parallel

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<v Speaker 1>developing areas of investigation. And today we look at forensic

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<v Speaker 1>science as a collection of these various techniques and technologies

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<v Speaker 1>to to investigate crime and to solve crime. So today

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to look more at some of the actual

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<v Speaker 1>tech use. I was kind of light on the tech

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<v Speaker 1>in the last episode. I was talking more about the

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<v Speaker 1>evolution of the ideas behind it, because that really informs

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<v Speaker 1>how the tech itself evolved. And today we're gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>a little more closely at that now. In the last episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I did mention the comparison microscope, that is a microscope

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<v Speaker 1>that is typically a pair of light microscopes. Isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>microscopes that use light as the medium to magnify stuff

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<v Speaker 1>into your eyeballs, So the companion or comparison microscope is

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of these right, it's it's essentially side by

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<v Speaker 1>side two light microscopes that are actually bridged together, but

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<v Speaker 1>on casual glance it looks almost like kind of binoculars

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<v Speaker 1>in a way. And here's a quick rundown on how

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<v Speaker 1>light microscopes work so that you can understand what a

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<v Speaker 1>comparison microscope is able to do. A basic upright light

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<v Speaker 1>microscope the kind you might see in a high school

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<v Speaker 1>lab or even you know, I guess elementary school and

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<v Speaker 1>middle school labs. Now when when I was a student,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't let a play with us until we were

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<v Speaker 1>essentially high schoolers. But you are probably familiar what what

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<v Speaker 1>these look like. It's that little upright microscopees gun. I

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<v Speaker 1>piece at one end has a little platform it's called

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<v Speaker 1>the stage where you would put a sample to h

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<v Speaker 1>to examine. Well, they're called light microscopes because they have

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<v Speaker 1>a light source at the base. Typically, your basic upright

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<v Speaker 1>light microscope does that shines light up through a sample

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can see it when you're looking through

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<v Speaker 1>the I piece above. The light source is a special

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<v Speaker 1>lens called a condenser. Now, the condenser's purpose is to

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<v Speaker 1>redirect a divergent beam of light from a light source

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<v Speaker 1>into a converging beam to illuminate a sample. So essentially

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<v Speaker 1>you're focusing light on the smaller area that the sample

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<v Speaker 1>itself will sit on, and of course that is on

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the microscope that's called the stage. The

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<v Speaker 1>microscope has what is called an objective lens that's near

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<v Speaker 1>the end opposite where you put your eye, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is the end that's closest to the sample. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>lens that's close to your eye, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>fittingly called the ocular lens. So the objective lens and

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<v Speaker 1>the condenser are aligned to focus on the same spot

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<v Speaker 1>of a sample, so the light from the condenser is

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the same region of a sample that the objective

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<v Speaker 1>lens is focused on. The job of the objective lens

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<v Speaker 1>is to gather light from the point of observation and

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<v Speaker 1>focus that light to produce a real image. Objective lenses

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<v Speaker 1>are in stuff like cameras and telescopes to they're not

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<v Speaker 1>just in microscopes. The lenses in the eyepiece of the

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<v Speaker 1>microscope do the majority of the actual magnification. So with

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<v Speaker 1>light microscopes you can sometimes swap out the objective lens,

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<v Speaker 1>but rarely can you swap out the eye piece. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason you would swap out the objective lens is

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<v Speaker 1>because it does affect the magnification somewhat. A more flat

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<v Speaker 1>objective lens will have a lower magnification than a rounder

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<v Speaker 1>objective lens. This is all due to the physics of optics,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm not going to go into here because without

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<v Speaker 1>visual aids, I would be struggling to describe them accurately.

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<v Speaker 1>The purpose of swapping out those objective lenses is to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on either larger or smaller areas of a sample.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you need to look at really small regions

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<v Speaker 1>of a sample, you'll want a rounder objective lens, and

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<v Speaker 1>this will let you look at the very tiny regions

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<v Speaker 1>of a sample. A comparison microscope is, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of these light microscopes and allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>view two samples at the same time. That lets you

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<v Speaker 1>compare those two samples, and you can eliminate the necessity

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<v Speaker 1>to rely upon memory when comparing one sample with another,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the case of forensics, that's incredibly important. You

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<v Speaker 1>might be comparing a bullet that was retrieved from a

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene with a bullet that you have fired from

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<v Speaker 1>a firearm that you suspect was used at that crime scene.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to see if these two bullets were

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<v Speaker 1>in fact fired out of the same firearm, and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to compare the markings on bullet

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<v Speaker 1>one versus bullet Too. But if you were just having

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<v Speaker 1>to swap them out underneath the same microscope, you would

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember, all right, well, the markings I saw

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<v Speaker 1>on bullet one, do they match up to what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing now in bullet too. With a comparison microscope, you

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<v Speaker 1>can look at them side by side in real time,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's much more reliable than looking at one sample

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<v Speaker 1>than removing it from the microscope, putting in a second

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<v Speaker 1>sample and then saying, huh, I think this looks the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So it it took a lot of ambiguity out of investigation. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Light microscopes are really useful, but sometimes you gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>a little further than what light microscope can do. They

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<v Speaker 1>have limitations on the amount of magnification they can provide,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where you might want to up your game

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<v Speaker 1>a bit go with something like a scanning electron microscope.

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<v Speaker 1>Those microscopes can magnify a sample up to three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand times. It is an enormous amount of magnification. And

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<v Speaker 1>a scanning electron microscope can also have depth of field,

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<v Speaker 1>like really good depth of field, to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>you will end up with an image that is almost

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<v Speaker 1>three D in nature. The s c M can or

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<v Speaker 1>scanning electron microscope can tell researchers a lot about the

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<v Speaker 1>composition of a sample, so not just what it looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>but the stuff that it's made out of. So we

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<v Speaker 1>should talk about how these work because it's simple to

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<v Speaker 1>say scanning electron microscope, but what does that really mean. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>back in two scientists developed a precursor to this, called

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<v Speaker 1>the transmission electron microscope or t e M, and that

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<v Speaker 1>microscope would direct a beam of electrons through a sample

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<v Speaker 1>to create a projectable image. Scanning electron microscopes followed soon afterward.

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<v Speaker 1>They were developed in nineteen five, just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years later, and initially they didn't get a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of support in the scientific community. Uh, partly because the

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<v Speaker 1>transmission electron microscopes that just come out we're already seen

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<v Speaker 1>to have covered that territory. Scientists are saying, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>should we spend money developing this new technology. We already

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<v Speaker 1>have this other one that seems to do the same thing. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>scanning electron microscope showed that they had features that made

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<v Speaker 1>them appealing on their own. So your basic scanning electron

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<v Speaker 1>microscope consists of the following parts, and it is very

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<v Speaker 1>different in many ways from a light microscope. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>looking through an eyepiece the way you would with a

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<v Speaker 1>light microscope. First of all, the entire guts of the

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<v Speaker 1>scanning electron microscope are inside a vacuum chamber. The microscope

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<v Speaker 1>itself is sealed in such a way that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a vacuum inside of it. And it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>like that because you're using electrons as you're scanning medium.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to have any interference from particles or

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<v Speaker 1>even air molecules. Those could be uh obstacles for an

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<v Speaker 1>electron beam and it would throw everything off if you

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<v Speaker 1>in fact had particles or air inside the microscope. So

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be a vacuum. The really important element,

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<v Speaker 1>actually all of them are really important, but the business

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<v Speaker 1>element of the scanning electron microscope is the electron gun.

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<v Speaker 1>These are devices that produce a beam of electrons. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really not that different from old CRT televisions. Those have

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<v Speaker 1>electron guns that fire electrons at a phosphorus screen to

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<v Speaker 1>create the light that you would see on an old television,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this case, the electron gun creates a beam

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<v Speaker 1>of electrons to scan your sample. The most common version

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<v Speaker 1>of the electron gun that you will find is the

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<v Speaker 1>thermionic gun, which, as the name implies, has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with heat, right, thermal thermionic. So you heat up a filament.

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<v Speaker 1>You typically would use something like tungusten because as a

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<v Speaker 1>very high melting point, you heat it up really, really

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<v Speaker 1>really hot. And when you do that, when you pour

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<v Speaker 1>energy into it, you help it shed electrons. I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this before, where pouring energy into an atom means

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<v Speaker 1>that you're energizing those electrons. Electrons typically orbit and atoms

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<v Speaker 1>nucleus in energy shells, and by boosting the energy of

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<v Speaker 1>those electrons, they moved to higher and higher shells outside

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<v Speaker 1>of that nucleus, and if you pour in enough energy,

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<v Speaker 1>you can strip the electron away from the atom entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what you do with these electron guns. The

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<v Speaker 1>filament heats up to this incredible temperature and starts to

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<v Speaker 1>shed off electrons. And then you aim those electrons at

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<v Speaker 1>a sample. The other type of electron gun, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is the field emission gun, that uses strong electrical fields

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<v Speaker 1>to strip electrons away from their associated atoms. Electron guns,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're thermionic or field emission guns, are located on

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<v Speaker 1>one end or the other of a scanning electron microscope.

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<v Speaker 1>They're either at the very top or at the very bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, they're doing the same thing. The lenses in

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<v Speaker 1>a scanning electron microscope are not optical lenses. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>ground glass lenses. The lenses in the scanning electron microscope

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<v Speaker 1>are actually magnets because magnets can shape the path of electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Electrons have a charge, so using magnets you can attract

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<v Speaker 1>or repel electrons. This is how particle accelerators like the

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<v Speaker 1>large hadron collider work. They use these powerful electro magnets

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<v Speaker 1>to control the beam of charged particles protons or electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>The scanning electron microscope uses magnets to focus the beam

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<v Speaker 1>of electrons and control them and direct them to where

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<v Speaker 1>they need to go in order to scan a sample.

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<v Speaker 1>The scanning electron microscope also has a sample chamber. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where you actually place the specimen that you are scanning,

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<v Speaker 1>and since we're talking about crazy levels of magnification here,

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<v Speaker 1>you need that sample to be super still. Any movement,

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<v Speaker 1>any vibration is going to be magnified dramatically and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to corrupt your results. So you want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be very stable, and typically that means insulating it against

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<v Speaker 1>all vibrations as much as you can. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to go to visit like a forensics lab, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's say it's a huge forensics lab, maybe it's an academy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's got multiple floors, chances are you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find the scanning electron microscopes on the ground floor, because

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<v Speaker 1>going up more than just the ground floor could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>introduce vibrations to your sample chamber and that would throw

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<v Speaker 1>off your results. The scanning electron microscope also has detectors.

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<v Speaker 1>Right you're you're blasting a sample with electrons, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have detectors to pick up the response of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and those detectors include stuff like secondary electron detectors. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are detectors that can actually register electrons from the sample itself. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, you're bombarding the sample with electrons from

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<v Speaker 1>your electron beam. Sometimes that dislodges electrons from the surface

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<v Speaker 1>of the outer surface of the sample, so the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>electron detectors can pick those up. But other detectors will

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<v Speaker 1>include back scatter detectors or X ray detectors. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you are scanning a specimen, the electron beam moves over

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<v Speaker 1>the surface of the object, and to do that, the

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<v Speaker 1>scanning electron microscope uses what are called scanning coils. These

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<v Speaker 1>are magnetic field generators that use fluctuating voltage to create

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<v Speaker 1>the magnetic field, and the scanning electron microscope uses that

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<v Speaker 1>to manipulate the electron beam. The coils direct the beam

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<v Speaker 1>across the specimen in a very tight grid like pattern,

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<v Speaker 1>so up and down, left and right, to get every

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<v Speaker 1>single point on the surface of that specimen. That does

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<v Speaker 1>dislodge electrons from the surface of the specimen in unique patterns,

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<v Speaker 1>so the secondary detector attracts those scattered electrons and then

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<v Speaker 1>registers those electrons as different levels of brightness on a monitor.

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<v Speaker 1>So the intensity of the brightness that you see in

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<v Speaker 1>the image will correspond with the number of electrons that

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<v Speaker 1>hit the detector. The detector quote unquote knows where secondary

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<v Speaker 1>electrons come from based upon the scanning beam's position, and

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<v Speaker 1>this can be shown in an optical image on a

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<v Speaker 1>video display. So think of for for the purposes of visualization,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine a laser beam it's hitting a single point on

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of cloth, let's say, And then imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>you have a sensor that can pick up when electrons

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<v Speaker 1>are being shot off by this piece of off. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking of a laser beam as that's the electron beam.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just imagining it as a laser beam. You move

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<v Speaker 1>the laser beam across the sample, and the detector is

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<v Speaker 1>constantly picking up these electrons as they are shot off

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<v Speaker 1>by the sample. And because this is all happening at

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<v Speaker 1>essentially the speed of light, I mean, we're talking super fast,

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<v Speaker 1>you know where those electrons are coming from, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what part of the sample the beam has just

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<v Speaker 1>made contact with. And that ends up being transmitted to

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<v Speaker 1>a computer system that interprets that and plots it as

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<v Speaker 1>pixels points of light on the monitor, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get the computer image of what the scanning electron microscope

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<v Speaker 1>just scanned. It's pretty darn cool. Backscattered electrons are those

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<v Speaker 1>from the beam that reflect off the surface of the

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<v Speaker 1>specimen and a detector can pick up those as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and in a similar way constructive image. So backscatter. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are electrons that came from the electron beam, not we're

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<v Speaker 1>shed by the sample. And then the X ray detectors

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<v Speaker 1>pick up X rays that would be emitted from underneath

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<v Speaker 1>the specimen, and the beam scans the entirety of the

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<v Speaker 1>specimen and the detector's data is used to construct the

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<v Speaker 1>corresponding image. And that's how scanning electron microscopes work if

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to dive more into that technology, because

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<v Speaker 1>I realized again without visual aids it gets a little

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<v Speaker 1>challenging to understand. There's a great article on how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works about how scanning electron microscopes work. Now, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break, and when I come back, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look at some of the other cool technology used

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<v Speaker 1>in forensic science. Now, in the last episode, I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about ballistics and measuring stuff like bullet holes to determine

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<v Speaker 1>the angle and direction of firearm was pointed before firing.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the old days you do stuff like tape

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<v Speaker 1>measures to figure all that out, you know, take physical measurements,

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<v Speaker 1>but today you typically would use laser scanners, they can

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<v Speaker 1>give you much more precise information. A laser scanner depends

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<v Speaker 1>largely on the time of flight method. That's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>similar to sonar and radar or speed guns that that

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<v Speaker 1>police use to detect the speed of a vehicle. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea is what what amount of time does it

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<v Speaker 1>take for a laser beam to travel from in the

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<v Speaker 1>mirror to a sensor. Right, So by knowing the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time between when a pulse of lasers left a

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<v Speaker 1>laser and when they were picked up by a sensor,

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<v Speaker 1>you can know the distance it traveled. Because it's traveling

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<v Speaker 1>at the speed of light. That's a constant. You can

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<v Speaker 1>use that constant and then work backwards and determine how

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<v Speaker 1>far did this laser beam travel. With laser scanners, you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a detector built into the scanner itself, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So they go. You've got an a mitter and a

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<v Speaker 1>scanner and they're next to each other, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>take half the distance that you calculate. Because the beam

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<v Speaker 1>travels out, it hits an object, it travels back and

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<v Speaker 1>gets picked up by the sensor, So that means the

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<v Speaker 1>laser has traveled twice the distance between the point of

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<v Speaker 1>the laser and the the point of contact. So you

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<v Speaker 1>just take half of that that will tell you the distance. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you use these laser scanners uh the time of

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<v Speaker 1>flight scanners, and you move them in a grid fashion

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<v Speaker 1>to capture all points of a scanned specimen, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you get this this collection of data points that tells

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<v Speaker 1>you how far away the various parts of a specimen

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<v Speaker 1>were compared to the origin spot of the laser scanner.

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<v Speaker 1>That would allow you to then plot that information in

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<v Speaker 1>a computer and get a real good read on the

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<v Speaker 1>specifics of whatever it was you were scanning. At three

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<v Speaker 1>D dash forensic dot com, there's a description of this

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<v Speaker 1>technology used to investigate a shooting crime to have then Vallejo, California.

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<v Speaker 1>This one took place in there was a couple who

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<v Speaker 1>were in a car that was outside of a home

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<v Speaker 1>in California. An argument broke out, presumably between the couple

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe with someone else as well who was outside

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<v Speaker 1>the car on a porch in front of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>That person on that porch fired an a K forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven at the vehicle. One of the bullets struck and

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<v Speaker 1>killed the driver of that vehicle, but the person who

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<v Speaker 1>shot the a K forty seven later claimed that the

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<v Speaker 1>passenger of this car had a gun and the passenger

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<v Speaker 1>was threatening the person who was standing on the porch.

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<v Speaker 1>So in California, there is something called the provocative act doctrine,

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<v Speaker 1>which states that if someone incites a killing, if they

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<v Speaker 1>escalate a situation and then a killing occurs because of

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<v Speaker 1>that escalator, that person can be charged with murder. So

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<v Speaker 1>the passenger in this car could be charged with the

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<v Speaker 1>murder of the driver of that car because of this

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<v Speaker 1>provocative act. Even though the passenger in the car wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the one who fired the gun, the argument would be

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<v Speaker 1>because of the passenger's actions, the driver died, so the

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<v Speaker 1>person charged is not the one who actually did the killing,

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<v Speaker 1>but incited the killing to happen. So the prosecution is

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<v Speaker 1>arguing the passengers actions lead to the death of this driver.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the heart of the issue was whether the

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<v Speaker 1>passenger actually did possess a gun and either threatened or

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps even fired it at the person who was on

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<v Speaker 1>the porch. The shooter who stood on that porch fired

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<v Speaker 1>an a K forty seven in full auto mode, which

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<v Speaker 1>means you just hold down the trigger and it will

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<v Speaker 1>keep firing until you let go of the trigger, You're

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<v Speaker 1>out of bullets. Investigators were brought in to answer quite is,

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<v Speaker 1>like where was the car when it was struck by

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<v Speaker 1>the two bullets? What is the line of sight from

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<v Speaker 1>the porch of the house to the position of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>If you assume the height of the person on the

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<v Speaker 1>porches about five ft eight inches, that was the height

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<v Speaker 1>of the shooter. What is the line of sight from

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<v Speaker 1>the front passenger position to the porch, Because if the

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<v Speaker 1>person in the passenger seat was actually threatening the person

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<v Speaker 1>on the porch, they would have to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see that person. Was the vehicle in motion? If so,

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<v Speaker 1>how fast was it going? And could the investigators determine

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<v Speaker 1>the order of the two bullets that struck the car?

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<v Speaker 1>Which one was first? The three D laser scan that

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<v Speaker 1>the investigators used, uh, they made one of the bullet holes,

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<v Speaker 1>they did of the car, the porch. They actually scanned

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<v Speaker 1>the whole area, but they were looking at the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>holes first, and that indicated that the two bullets that

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<v Speaker 1>were both shot from the same angle, which indicated that

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<v Speaker 1>the shooters stood in the same spot while firing the shots.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were there was a distance between bullet hole

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<v Speaker 1>number one and bullet hole number two, and that distance

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<v Speaker 1>would mean that the car must have moved two point

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<v Speaker 1>seven feet between those two shots. And the reason they

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<v Speaker 1>realized that the car was the one that moved and

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<v Speaker 1>not the person was because the a K forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>was fired in full auto mode. The time between two

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<v Speaker 1>shots from a cold start would be about one tenth

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<v Speaker 1>of a second, which means the car must have moved

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<v Speaker 1>to get two point seven feet further in one tenth

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<v Speaker 1>of a second. That's way too fast for a person

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<v Speaker 1>to have moved and been able to fire this gun,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would mean that the car was moving at

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<v Speaker 1>around a little less than twenty miles per hour. The

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<v Speaker 1>investigators ended up conducting thorough laser scans not just in

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle, but the whole area where the crime occurred,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the heart of the issue was conflicting testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the passenger have a gun? Was the passenger threatening

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<v Speaker 1>or actively shooting the person on the porch? And based

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<v Speaker 1>on the scans and simulations, the jury found the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>did not support the shooters claim that the passenger was

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<v Speaker 1>threatening the shooter with a gun, and so the charges

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<v Speaker 1>of murder against the passenger were dismissed. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an interesting way of using laser scanners. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fascinating discussion. And again, if you go to that

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<v Speaker 1>website three D dash forensic dot com, you can find

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<v Speaker 1>the whole case study written up and in greater detail

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<v Speaker 1>and learn more about it. So let's say let's change

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<v Speaker 1>gears a little bit. Let's say you go to a

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene and there's broken glass everywhere, and the cops

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<v Speaker 1>have a suspect and custody, and a close examination of

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<v Speaker 1>the suspect's clothing revealed that there were some glass particles

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<v Speaker 1>that were attached to that clothing. They were they were

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<v Speaker 1>just stuck on there. But the particles are really small,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not obvious that they come from the crime scene.

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<v Speaker 1>They might be unrelated. So if you've got really small

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<v Speaker 1>glass particles, they're so small that you can't just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>piece them together, how can you determine whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>they came from the crime scene. Well, you could call

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<v Speaker 1>in the laser ablation inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry device.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also known as the l A I C p MS.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those cases where the acronym is almost as

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<v Speaker 1>clunky as the full name. It sounds like something out

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<v Speaker 1>of Ghostbusters, doesn't it. But this is a Once you

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<v Speaker 1>break it down into its component parts, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>easier to understand because when you hear laser ablation inductively

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<v Speaker 1>coupled plasma mass spectrometry, that seems like it would be insane,

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<v Speaker 1>but it actually makes a lot more sense when you

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<v Speaker 1>break it down. So first, let's talk about laser ablation.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where you use a laser beam that is

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<v Speaker 1>of a particular strength so that when you move it

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<v Speaker 1>across a sample surface, it generates fine particles. Through laser ablation, essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>you're shaving off particles from the sample. You gather these

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<v Speaker 1>particles and they go into a chamber where an inductively

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<v Speaker 1>coupled plasma instrument otherwise known as a plasma torch ionizes

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<v Speaker 1>the particles. Once again, you uh impart a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>energy to the particles, so it ends up ionizing them.

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<v Speaker 1>It sheds electrons, it becomes charged, and then you put

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<v Speaker 1>it through a spectrometer. The spectrometer separates the ions using filters,

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<v Speaker 1>which aren't physical filters. It's not like a mesh or something.

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<v Speaker 1>There in the form of first an electric field and

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<v Speaker 1>then a magnetic field, and this forces the ions to

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<v Speaker 1>fan out into a spectrum, and the ions will all

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<v Speaker 1>fan out based upon physical uh features of those ions,

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<v Speaker 1>So all like ions will end up in one part

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<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum and unlike ions will be in a

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<v Speaker 1>different part of the spectrum. So by looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>whole spread of the spectrum, you can say what that

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<v Speaker 1>substance was made out of. A detector will count up

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<v Speaker 1>the ions and the various parts of the spectrum, and

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<v Speaker 1>a computer program analyzes the results to tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>it was that you zapped. And by analyzing a sample

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<v Speaker 1>from a crime scene and then comparing those results to

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<v Speaker 1>samples collected from a suspect, you can see if the

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<v Speaker 1>glass was made out of the same stuff, and if

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<v Speaker 1>it is, that's a clue that your suspect is someone

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<v Speaker 1>to look at very carefully, as that match suggests that

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<v Speaker 1>they must have come in contact with the crime scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's not it's not like smoking gun evidence, but

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<v Speaker 1>it certainly suggests if there's a match, that they were

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<v Speaker 1>involved in some way. Uh. If there's not a match,

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<v Speaker 1>then you could say, well, according to our results the glass, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you found glass on this person's clothing, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>match the glass that was found at the crime scene,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can't say for certain that there was any

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<v Speaker 1>connection there. That actually suggests there's not a connection. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we can move on to stuff like document examination. This

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<v Speaker 1>is where you're looking for, uh, any evidence that was

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<v Speaker 1>left behind in kind of writing form, whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, handwriting or typing or printers whatever that maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>And this can be used in all sorts of crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the kind of violent crimes I've sort of

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<v Speaker 1>talked about before, but all certainly like corporate crimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>ways of doing this. One way is to look for

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<v Speaker 1>indented writing, you know, the idea that there's traces of

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<v Speaker 1>someone having written something. It's not necessarily on a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of paper. They're looking at maybe a piece of paper

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<v Speaker 1>that was underneath the one that was being written on.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically you would want to use something like oblique light

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<v Speaker 1>and photography first. In other words, you're hitting the surface

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<v Speaker 1>of the material that you suspect has indentations from previous

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<v Speaker 1>writing with light from different angles in order to try

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<v Speaker 1>and illuminate those indentations, and then you take pictures of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also a device called an electrostatic detection apparatus

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<v Speaker 1>or E s d A that you can use. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you write on a top sheet of paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you've got a pad of paper and you're

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<v Speaker 1>writing on that top sheet, you might see that you've

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<v Speaker 1>got indentations on the lower sheets and uh, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would use a pencil to shade out those indentations to

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<v Speaker 1>read writing. You see that in a lot of detective shows,

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<v Speaker 1>right a detective sees a pad of paper next to

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<v Speaker 1>a phone, picks up the pad of paper, grabs a pencil,

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<v Speaker 1>shades the pencil across the pad of paper, and spells

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<v Speaker 1>how the message like see pick up bag at third

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 1>and Broad Street or something like that. And you're like, oh, okay,

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>well voila. E s d A takes a slightly more

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>electrifying approach to this concept. So an E s d

0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>A device generates an electro static field, and think of

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it like, you know, uh, static electricity, that idea of

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 1>building up this charge. It imparts this electrostatic charge to

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a document that could have indentations on it. So these

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>machines have a platform made out of bronze plate. You

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.640
<v Speaker 1>put the piece of paper you're gonna scan on top

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>of that bronze plate on top of the piece of paper,

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 1>you put a thin layer of film on there, and

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>then you pass a highly charged wire called a corona

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>over the paper. And it's this highly charged wire that

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>imparts an electrostatic charge to the paper underneath. The indented

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>parts of the paper received the largest amount of that

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>electro static charge. Then once that's over, they can expose

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the film covered paper to toner, and the toner also

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>has an electrostatic charge, but it's opposite to the charge

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>that the corona gave the paper, and opposite charges a

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>tract So the indented spots with the greatest amount of

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>charge attract the toner. Then you can see where the

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>invitations were. You can see them more clearly. You might

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>be able to read stuff. It's really not that different

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>from the way a photocopier works, if you remember my

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>episodes about that. So I thought that was a pretty

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>cool technology. Sometimes, however, you're not just looking for evidence

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that someone has actually written something on a piece of paper.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>You might want to determine if a document has been altered.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>For example, let's say someone's signed a contract and then

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>later on they come to a court and they say

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the contract I signed is different from the one that

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>they claim I signed. They must have changed it after

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I signed it. They might want to use something like

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a video spectral comparator device what the heck also called

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a VSC. So this is an imaging device. It combines

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>multiple cameras, multiple sensors, and different lights to examine a

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>document and the entire spectrum of light, including ultra violet

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>and infrared that's beyond the visit spectrum, right We humans

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>can't see that without technological aid, so a computer is

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>able to render the results in shades we can see.

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>So you've got these cameras that can pick up in

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>these different frequencies, You've got lights in these different frequencies,

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and sensors in these different frequencies, and through all this

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you can analyze the data coming back and a computer

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>can present it in a way that we can actually see.

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>And the analysis of color is really important as it

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>can detect when two different but similar incs were used

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>on a document. So to our eyes, we might look

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>at the document and say, well, this was clearly all

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>written at the same time. We can put it through

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>a an analysis like this, where you're using different wavelengths

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of light to analyze the document, and by taking precise

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>measurements of the light that's coming off that document that's

0:30:56.160 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>being reflected back from that document, you could say, well, actually,

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>it turns out there are two different inks that were

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>used on this document, which indicates that there were as,

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>there was a point where it stopped and started up,

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and it was printed on a different device, and uh

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>so to casual glance, it might look like this was

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>all done at once, but you could say, well, no,

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the analysis shows there's two different inks here. They look

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the same to our human eyes, but when we put

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>it through the vs C, we can clearly see that

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>there were two different types of ink. So it's really

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>helpful if you want to see if in fact the

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>document has been changed, if something has been erased or replaced.

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting technology. Well, I've got some more that I

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about in the great world of forensic tech.

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>But before I get to that, let's take another quick

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>break to thank our sponsors. I just talked a bit

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>about devices that use cameras. Might as well stick with

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>cameras because photography is a really important part of forensic science.

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's say there's a case where a forensic nurse, and

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>there are such things. A forensic nurse is called in

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>to treat someone who appears to be the victim of

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>a physical attack. This person might not be communicative, and

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>this can be a matter of life and death. And

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>sometimes evidence of physical harm is hard to see, particularly

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>if that harm happened just a short time earlier. So uh,

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>for example, there might not be evidence of bruising that

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>it's that's visibly. Uh, they're right, but there may very

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>well be damaged that will lead to that. So there

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>are cameras that make use of a technology called alternative

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>light source photography that can reveal evidence of physical harms

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>such as bruising, before they become visible, and it allows

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>medical staff to treat a person quickly, and sometimes that

0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>can be the difference between saving someone and losing them. Now,

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it's called alternative light source photography because those cameras may

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>use something like infrared light or ultra violet light, or

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>they might even use visible light, but it's in a

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>very particular wavelength. For example, I saw one version of

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>such a camera that uses blue light to illuminate a

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>person's skin and then has a special orange filter to

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>try and pick up any evidence of physical harm that

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>might not be visible under normal lighting conditions, which I

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>thought was really interesting. They're also high speed cameras that

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>are frequently used to get a better understanding of ballistics evidence.

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>High speed cameras can take images at incredible speeds, as

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the name suggests, and typically that requires a lot of light.

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>You don't really use high speed cameras and low light conditions,

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's because cameras work by focusing light coming through

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a lens through an opening called the aperture, which can

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>open or shrink. If you open, you allow more light

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to come through. If you shrink, you allow less light

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to come through. And you have a shutter. The shutter

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>is a device that opens and closes and allows the

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>light to either pass through and expose an image on film,

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 1>or it hits a digital sensor, right for for digital photography.

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>With high speed photography, this has to happen really really fast.

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Right You're you're creating images at an incredible rate, So

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the shutter has to be able to open and close

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>super super fast, and that means you have to have

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>a very well lit scene because the shutter is just

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>allowing light through or not allowing light through, and if

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>it's moving super super fast, not a whole lot of

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>light gets through on each time it opens, So you

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>want to have a very bright scene in order to

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:44.280
<v Speaker 1>be able to see anything. Otherwise the video or film

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that you take is going to be very very dark.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:50.240
<v Speaker 1>There's also a thing called a gunshot residue scanning electron

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>microscope as another detection tool that can help look for

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a gunshot residue. No big surprise based on the name.

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>It's actually a combination of hardware in software, and typically

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>these things look like big desktop computers, you know, with

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a couple of monitors, big tower. There might be some

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>specialized peripherals attached to it, but you know, if you

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 1>looked at a casual glance, you might just say, oh,

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that's just a desktop computer. The microscope works like the

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>scanning electron microscopes i mentioned earlier, looking for any suspicious

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>particles that could be the residue from a firearm discharging,

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and then the system uses spectroscopy to identify what those

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>particles are. So both the technologies are referred to earlier

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>in this episode would be combined in this kind of

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>approach to first look at very closely a material that

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 1>you suspect might have gunshot residue on it, and then

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>through spectroscopy, do this analysis to determine are there, in

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>fact any particles there that would indicate gunshot residue. On

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>TV and movies, we often see investigators using technology like

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>three D facial reconstruction technology UH. The technique uses algorithms

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to determine what someone might have looked like based upon

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>typically remains. It's pretty grim stuff, so you find remains

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>at a scene, maybe you find skeletal remains, and you

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>wonder what did the person look like in life, and

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to reconstruct that that That technology really does exist,

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.720
<v Speaker 1>though it has shown to be variable in its reliability

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>depending upon the actual implementation. It doesn't always work perfectly,

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and it depends heavily upon the software packages that you use. Typically,

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>you would use software UH to analyze a scan of

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>the remains, So you're using scanners to completely get a

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 1>very detailed representation of those remains, and the software would

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>then go over that information, and you might also have

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>to include other information you might have about the person,

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>like if you know anything about their age, their gender, UH,

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 1>their ancestry. All of that could be taken into account

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>by the software package while it's trying to build out

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 1>what the person might have looked like, uh, in life.

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>And then you might feed the software some images of say,

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 1>missing persons. Let's say that you've got a file of

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>people who have gone missing. You might feed those images

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>through to see if the computer system can find any

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>matches between the reconstruction that's created and any actual humans

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>that you have pictures of, and if there are any

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>matches that would allow you to help narrow down your investigation. Potentially,

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. Again, it's not necessarily a hit, but it

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>could mean that you are you've got a lead to follow.

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>As I said, the reliability of the software depends upon

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:48.919
<v Speaker 1>the actual software package used, so it's it's not infallible.

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>We also see a lot of news about DNA evidence,

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>which is really important stuff. Let's say you recover some

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>DNA evidence at a crime scene that doesn't match any

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>of the known people to have been there, right, so

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>what or it's a violent crime or not. You find

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>some DNA evidence, you've eliminated the people who typically are

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.879
<v Speaker 1>at that place, and you want to know who the

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>heck does this DNA belong to, It could belong to

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the perpetrator of a crime. So you take the DNA

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>in for analysis. You first replicate that DNA millions of

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>times for the purposes of testing, so that you have

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>enough of it to work with, and then you analyze it.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>And scientists can use phenotyping to identify genetic markers and

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:34.280
<v Speaker 1>DNA variants and based upon that information make predictions about

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the appearance of the person who that DNA belongs to.

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>These predictions are very general, so they're also based off probabilities.

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Nothing is totally certain. You can't just scan the DNA

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and say, ah, I know exactly what this person looks like,

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>but you can get some general predictions. There's a couple

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of different systems that can do this. There's one in particular,

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the hi risplex system that I read about. According to

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>what I read, it can predict blonde hair. Uh. If

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it's got the markers for blonde hair, it can predict

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>whether the person has blonde hair about sixty nine five

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>percent at the time. Now, blonde hair that's carried by

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a recessive gene, it's not really surprising that the success

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>rate is below. Brown hair gets a much higher hit

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>rate at seventy eight point five percent, red hair even

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 1>higher at eight percent, and black hair gets the highest

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>at eighty seven point five. The system can also use

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.959
<v Speaker 1>the same sort of methodology to predict what color eyes

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the person probably has, and so then if that's all

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you have to go on, if there are no why witnesses,

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>but you have some DNA evidence, you could say, well,

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>based upon our analysis, there's the x amount of chance

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the person has brown hair and blue eyes, and so

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that at least gives you some parameters you can start

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>to look for when you're doing your investigation, although again

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to remember these are all based on probabilities,

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>not certainties. And this next one goes out to all

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you gamers out there. We live in an age where

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>there are numerous ways to store electronic data. You might

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>have a computer, a smartphone, a tablet, USB drives, hard drives,

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>optical discs. If you're clinging to the past, you might

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>use cloud storage. But one device that sometimes can be

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 1>used to store incriminating information is the good old game

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>console like the Xbox, and a moded Xbox can be

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>used to store all sorts of information of questionable legality,

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>not to mention stuff that's just outright illegal, and uh

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>mods can exploit known vulnerabilities in the Xbox. You don't

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 1>necessarily have to crack the Xbox open and do some

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 1>soldering to change things. There was one example that was

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>cited in a paper titled x f T, a Forensic

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Analysis Tool for the Microsoft Xbox Game Console. It was

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>written by a guy named David Collins, and he pointed

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>out that there was an Xbox game Double O seven

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Agent under Fire that had a vulnerability. An Xbox owner

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>could visit a link and download an exploit that was

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>created by a hacker. The exploit used the buffer overrun

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 1>vulnerability in that game for the saving process. So on

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<v Speaker 1>the Xbox, it would look like it was a valid

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>saved game. That's what the file would look like. It's like, oh, well,

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that's just that's just a save game file, But in

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<v Speaker 1>reality it would be an operating environment. The Xbox owner

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<v Speaker 1>could use that operating environment to browse files using the

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<v Speaker 1>FTP protocol and download files to the Xbox and the

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<v Speaker 1>guys of this save file, so on casual glance, it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't look like anything was hinky. Now, the Xbox used

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<v Speaker 1>a file system called f a t X that is

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<v Speaker 1>not readable by most forensic software. So let's say you're

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<v Speaker 1>on an investigation and you want to check the Xbox

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<v Speaker 1>for any illegal information. It might not be readily apparent

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<v Speaker 1>that such information is on that Xbox if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where to look, and you can't easily scan it

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<v Speaker 1>with most forensic software. So digital forensics experts developed a

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:01.760
<v Speaker 1>tool called the x f T, which is a command

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>line utility. It behaves like a Linux shell and allows

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<v Speaker 1>an investigator to image the file system of an Xbox,

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<v Speaker 1>which then would allow an analyst to browse the contents

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<v Speaker 1>on the game console in the search for illegal material.

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<v Speaker 1>And it can record a browse session so that prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>could present that to jurors in a trial to show

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<v Speaker 1>exactly where a criminal hid data on the game system. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>one forensic tool I think is really neat is actually

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<v Speaker 1>not high tech at all. It's actually pretty low tech.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But that's kind of why I like it. It's so elegant,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the use of magnetic fingerprint powder and magnetic wands.

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Sounds very hairy potter ish, but it's not the powder.

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 1>The magnetic powder. It's dark. It can be used as

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you know dark powder, black powder that you would typically

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 1>use when dusting for prints, but this particular powder contains

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>iron filings in it, which means it's attracted to magnets.

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>So when you want to dust a surface for prints,

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<v Speaker 1>you take out the magnetic wand. Now this is essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a plastic cylinder, and there's a cap on one end

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of this plastic cylinder. It's got an end on a

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<v Speaker 1>capped end. Inside the cylinder is a magnet that's on

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the end of a plunger. So if you push the

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>plunger all the way down, the magnet is pressed up

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>against the back end of that cap, the inside of

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the cap. Then you can use the wand to pick

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>up the magnetic powder and it's going to clump to

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the end of the wand you would then gently move

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the wand across the surface that you are dusting for prints,

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>and you would use it like it's a brush, except

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 1>instead of it being the bristles of a brush, it's

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>actually the magnetic powder itself. And you're not letting the

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>wand contact the paper, it's just the powder. So as

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you do this, some of the magnetic powder comes loose,

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and if their fingerprints on the surface, the powder will

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>reveal the presence of those fingerprints. Once you're done brushing

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the surface, you can then move the wand back over

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.399
<v Speaker 1>to the container of magnetic powder. You position the wand

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 1>over the contain inner so that you're being nice and

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 1>careful and neat, and then you pull the plunger back

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 1>up the length of the cylinder. This moves the magnet

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>away from that capped end, and the magnetic powder will

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>just fall freely down into the container because there's no

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>longer that they're no longer close enough to the magnetic

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>field to be attracted to it anymore. One thing that

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you do have to take into account if you're using

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 1>this stuff is it is more abrasive than normal black powder,

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>so brushing has to be very gentle. As for future

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>technologies and forensics, we might see investigators look at stuff

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>like the microbiomes we carry with us, those those or

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>those kind of cultures of micro organisms that are unique

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to us. No two people have the same microbiomes, although

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>sexual contact can intermingle the microbiomes of one person and another.

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 1>In fact, an investigation could reveal that. So say it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a case where someone is coming forward and

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 1>they have an accusation and in volves sexual assault, then

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>investigation of the microbiome might be one of the ways

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you could confirm that uh it. So being able to

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 1>identify and classify microbioms could become a really important investigative

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 1>tool in cases where you may not have a good

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>DNA sample to work with. UH. For that to happen,

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that scientists have to prove that it's a reliable way

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of identifying a person. UH that they have to show

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.479
<v Speaker 1>that it is in fact something that you could base

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>a legal case on and it's so they have to

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>show that it's it's a verifiable and reliable technology. Another

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>line of investigation might focus on pollen particles that can

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<v Speaker 1>indicate specific travel patterns people have taken based upon the

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.320
<v Speaker 1>pollen they've come in contact with and they have on

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>their clothes or skin. The study of pollen is called

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 1>palein ology p A L Y N O L O

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>g Y. It's pretty hefty stuff because there are a

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<v Speaker 1>hun ords of thousands of species of flowering plants out there,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is not easy to identify pollen UH necessarily,

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<v Speaker 1>but it could be a promising addition to the forensic

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>investigators growing collection of tools and strategies. And there's other

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.399
<v Speaker 1>stuff that didn't talk about. I mean, there's stuff where

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<v Speaker 1>you could look at the computer system on a car

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<v Speaker 1>to look for uh, indications of things that you might

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<v Speaker 1>suspect based upon a crime that might have been committed

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 1>by someone driving. There's a lot of different avenues of

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>investigation out there, and honestly, I could do a full

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<v Speaker 1>podcast series about these, but I thought it was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of give this this look into what's being

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<v Speaker 1>used today and the technologies that might be used tomorrow.

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