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Speaker 1: Nick Wright and I have a forty minute conversation today.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna love it, so I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: waste too much time before I get to it. I

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Speaker 1: do want to comment on Sean Payton retiring. I was

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Speaker 1: very vague about some things, and I don't like to

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Speaker 1: be vague. I think I'm a pretty direct person, and

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Speaker 1: I think you deserve that. I'm going to say this

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Speaker 1: about Sean Payton. I have been told now by three

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Speaker 1: different people, some in football, some in broadcasting, that Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton is not going to coach for a year. What

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Speaker 1: I would do, This is what I would do if

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Speaker 1: I ran Fox Sports, and I have no insight to

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Speaker 1: what my bosses are going to do because they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: tell me. I would pay him two two and a

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Speaker 1: out what to do with them once he's in the building.

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Speaker 1: I think he's that talented. There is, by the way,

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Speaker 1: a current professional athlete in America who is being paid

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Speaker 1: about that much money and he's still a vibrant player,

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Speaker 1: but he's getting older. He's paid that much money buy

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Speaker 1: that's kind of my theory of what I would do

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Speaker 1: with Sean Payton. I would just pay him if I

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Speaker 1: and figure the rush of it out later. I think

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Speaker 1: the Saints have been just full of tumult, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's time I want to get into the Nick

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Speaker 1: Wright stuff because you know, Nick's not only works with me,

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Speaker 1: he's one of one of my dearest friends. And I

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Speaker 1: don't want to waste any of your time. And if

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Speaker 1: gonna like this all right. Time to bring in my

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Speaker 1: buddy Nick. Right about once a month, the co host

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Speaker 1: of First Things First joins me. He's you know, the

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Speaker 1: co host, but he is. He runs that circus and

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Speaker 1: it is every bit of circus. It's a good show,

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Speaker 1: It really is. Because I listened on the way in.

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Speaker 1: Brussard on your mutual affection for each other is so obvious,

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Speaker 1: You would be doing a show right now in Houston

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Speaker 1: or Kansas City. That would be great. But you're better

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Speaker 1: think it's the closest he's been. And another reason, Aaron

427
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: is smart enough to know that the lack of competition

428
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: in the NFC North. Like Brady in the AFC East

429
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: is why he keeps playing home playoff games. That division

430
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: is going to be so bad if Brady retires. It's

431
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: a layup. It's so bad. I can I talk about

432
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: the Brady retirement with you for a moment, because I

433
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: tried to do this on television, but it's there are

434
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: certain topics that if you don't get exactly right, you're

435
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: just gonna get excoriated for. And it was two I

436
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't want to get it wrong in the

437
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: small bits of television. But I think you and I

438
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: even talked about so to me, it's pretty clear Tom

439
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: wants to keep playing football, and that if he doesn't,

440
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 1: it's because his wife and his kids don't want him.

441
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: Right like that, he wants to play, all right. So

442
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: here's the thing that I'm pondering here. I understand everyone

443
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: has responsibility of their family. I get that if you

444
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: are the family of someone who is literally in the

445
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: discussion for the greatest in the history of the world

446
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: at something, do you have a responsibility to them that

447
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: is different than if dad's seventh in command at the

448
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: local electronics store and he works eighty hours a week.

449
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: Is there not an element of listen being the family

450
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: or the kids or whatever of Tom Brady has a

451
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: lot of awesome stuff that comes with it. One negative

452
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: thing is he might be so locked in and dedicated

453
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 1: to the field that there's time you don't get with him.

454
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: By the way, he'll still retire fifty years younger thin

455
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 1: fifty years twenty years younger than most people retire. He

456
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: retires at forty five. I just I feel funny about

457
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: this idea that a guy who might be the greatest

458
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: football player ever is going to walk away before he

459
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: wants to, not because he can't play anymore, not because

460
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: he's not great, but because the people he loves want

461
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: him to. Like, I don't know, I'm not exactly saying

462
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 1: it right, but it feels it feels weird to me,

463
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady owes it to himself to do exactly

464
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: what he wants to write the final chapter of his

465
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: football life. Does that make sense? Yeah. Tom said the

466
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: other day to Jim Gray, he said, it pains Giselle

467
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: when I get hit. He did not say it pains

468
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: Gizelle when I go to practice or watch film. She

469
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: doesn't want to see her husband get hurt. That's the issue.

470
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: The time away I don't think you know, I say

471
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: this all the time. You know, my wife and I'll

472
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: talk about this. I'm like, if you consider you know

473
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: how well I've done financially, generally you have to fly

474
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: globally or fly two hundred days a year to do

475
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: as well as I do, I'm like, I'm home at

476
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: noon every single day, so correct if you look at

477
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: football players have five months a year. Yes, yes, that's

478
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: the thing is I'm sure during the season he's pain

479
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: in the ass, like you know. And I'm sure, and

480
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: I say that lovingly, and I'm sure that there are

481
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: things he misses. But it also is a job that

482
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: February to July you have essentially as much free time

483
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: as you want. And it is not it's not the

484
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: traveling things exactly right. This is not a oh I'm

485
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: missing everything because I commute dessert. That's not what's happening here.

486
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: And so I just I don't know. I just I

487
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: didn't like. When I listened to Brady, I felt badly

488
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: for him in this regard, which is we all understand

489
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: the push and pull between work and life and family.

490
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: And he mentioned, you know, the stuff with Kobe that

491
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: of course made us all kind of take a moment

492
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: and say, are we putting the most important things first?

493
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: All of that, I get that, but there's also to

494
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: me something when you are not just a pro athlete,

495
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: but someone that might be the greatest ever at something,

496
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: I really just feel like you should be able to

497
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: do it on your own terms and that the people

498
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: closest to you will understand. Well, that's why, you know,

499
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: they say behind every great success, every man, there's a

500
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: great woman. So I think Giselle is really capable, really smart,

501
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: really international, really a great mom. She could handle it.

502
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: I remember years ago I had this discussion with somebody

503
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: I worked with at the other network, ESPN, and we

504
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: were talking about George Bodenheimer and there was a big

505
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: emergency at ESPN or something, you know, somebody I don't know,

506
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: it was a controversy or something, and I said, your

507
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: wife has to understand. It's an understanding in the family, like,

508
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: unless your life is in jeopardy, there are going to

509
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: be moments every year a dozen where the job comes first.

510
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: It will take precedence over the family. And again I

511
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: tried to talk about this on TV and I felt like, man,

512
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna come across like a shitty dad

513
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: or I absolutely And here's the other thing I said,

514
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: is this, these kids are nine, twelve, fourteen. I think, yeah, kid,

515
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: when they are older, they will get it. Let me

516
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: tell you something. Listen, I've talked with you a little

517
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: bit about my father. My dad was a work workaholic. Yeah,

518
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: and he was not Tom Brady, but he thought his job,

519
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: he thought he has a calling. He would tell you like,

520
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: this is what I was pulling this earth to do,

521
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: is to fight for the firefighters of Kantony, Missouri. That's

522
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: my job. To make sure they are taking care of,

523
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: to make sure they have health benefits, to make sure

524
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: they the best working conditions. Like that is what he

525
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: dedicated his life too, and he missed a lot of stuff.

526
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: And as a kid, did it piss me off? It

527
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: kind of did. And then I got to be an

528
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: adult and I felt like I had a calling, not

529
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: one nearly as important by the way to the world

530
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: as his, just something I must do. And you know

531
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: what I did. I moved to Los Angeles with my

532
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: family in Houston for a year and a half, commuted

533
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: back and forth. Will I ever get that time back

534
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: with my daughters, with my son, I won't do. I

535
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: regret it, no, because it not only was what I

536
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: needed to do in order to be having this conversation

537
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: with you in order to have it my career, but

538
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: it also I am the adult that like in the family,

539
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: I have to recognize I might have to sacrifice some

540
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: things that I will miss because of what it will

541
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: allow me to do for you in the future is

542
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: my kids. Now, I get it. If you're Brady, You've

543
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: already made so much money year like that that check

544
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: has already been You know that that box has already

545
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: been checked. I just think I think this idea that

546
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: it is outrageous that that people would say no. Listen,

547
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of times in life that the job

548
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: does come first like that's it's very few people that

549
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: are get anywhere close to the top of any field

550
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: that can't do it. Now, if Brady wants to say

551
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that anymore, God bless him,

552
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: but he What is shocking to me about the retirement

553
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: talk is this, Tom Brady has achieved literally every goal

554
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: he ever set out, even the ones that seemed impossible.

555
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: He set out one that seemed impossible. I want to

556
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: play until I'm forty five. He is one year away.

557
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna needs two years removed from a super Bowl.

558
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: This year he almost won MVP. He's gonna stop a

559
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: year short. I think I think that causes I'm being honest. Resentments, Yeah, bitterness.

560
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of stuff like, I don't know.

561
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: I hope he's been I'll be placed. Yeah, I mean

562
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: I think I don't think there's a right answer. Um.

563
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of this stuff is communication with

564
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: your wife, with your kids. So you know, I A

565
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: and I talk about this stuff all the time and

566
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: where we want to be five years down the road,

567
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: what we want to be doing, and I'll you know,

568
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I'm certainly not an expert

569
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: on this, but my kids have moved around a lot

570
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: because of my career. Now we've had certain um things

571
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: available to us that have been really advantageous, private schools,

572
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: incredible vacations, access to things we would never have without me.

573
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: Dad's job. Right, So we go back and forth, and

574
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: what I just try to do is communicate and talk

575
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: to my kids and what bothers you and how do

576
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: you feel. I can remember when I got a divorce,

577
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: I monitored my daughter's grades. I talked to her counselors,

578
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: how's it affecting her. I had these open conversations. I

579
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: went to a lot of therapy, and so I wanted

580
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: to see how it affected her. And I was very

581
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: fortunate my X and I, you know, she was you know,

582
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: we were. It was a very amicable split, and so

583
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: there was no hostility, but it was you know, it's

584
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: a work, it's a it's a fluid situation, and I

585
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: think where kids have come out of it really well.

586
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a right answer. Somebody will listen

587
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: to this and who's not as ascending or doesn't have

588
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: a great career aspirations and will think we're the cold hearted,

589
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: horrible parents. And then some trial attorney who's a great

590
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: dad will listen to it and go, yeah, that's you know.

591
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: I've been in that space. So I feel like I

592
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: have missed out on some things because of my job,

593
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: but I've also been able to experience things with my

594
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: children I could have not experienced if I had not

595
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: right had listen, there's the access and things like that

596
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: are obviously important. For the argument against it with Brady

597
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: is he's all he's already if he would have stopped

598
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: three years ago. They still the money is endless, the

599
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: fame and access, all that's endless, But there is, you

600
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: know I And again we're going down a deep rabbit

601
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: hole or whatever. I remember my mom was the most

602
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: selfless person is susta with us um I've ever met

603
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: unt and there was like she never ever, ever put

604
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: herself first, and she had a high level job. But

605
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: I remember vividly as a kid once I think I

606
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: was being a total brat right around Christmas time. I remember,

607
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: I remember it vividly. She looked at me and she said, Nick,

608
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: it's everyone's Christmas, not just yours. And I always resonated

609
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: with me because I was like, as a kid, you

610
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: don't always think about that, Like Christmas is supposed to

611
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: be fun for the parents too. The reason I bring

612
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: that up as this, even when you're a parent, you're

613
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: still like there's still an element of when you live

614
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: your life. There should be some math of what makes

615
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: me happy, what do I want to do? Like there

616
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: has to be an element. It can't just always be

617
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: Once again, you have it's your responsibility to take care

618
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: of the kids, make sure they have the things they need.

619
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: But then there's in the margins. And I do think

620
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: that it is different if you are if you are

621
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: someone that is one of the greatest ever at something, yeah,

622
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: it is more reasonable to put that your field, you know,

623
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: high on the priority list. Then if you're you know,

624
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: the executive vice president of a widget company, and it's

625
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't know. Maybe I'm an

626
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: asshole for it, and I know we got other stuff

627
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: to talk about, but I firmly believe that. Yeah, I mean,

628
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: I think Giselle. The resentment would be Giselle thinking, hey, pal,

629
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: I was a supermodel and gave up more money than you.

630
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a good point because she

631
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: did it. That would be the argument is I was

632
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady of supermodeling, and I stopped. You won't

633
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: ever stop. That is a good point, you know that.

634
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: That is a really good point because she is like

635
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: there is there is a whole element of It's not

636
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: the typical superstar athlete family where the husband is the

637
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: breadwinner by a more than him. She made more so wild,

638
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: it's so wild. Yeah, that's a good point. That's yeah,

639
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't think the kids would have the resentment. I

640
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: think they'd love Dad. I think, um, you know, recently

641
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: I moved into a house and um, and this is

642
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: on me. It did not have an art studio for

643
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: my wife. It had this broadcasting area, and at the

644
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: time the house serves so many um needs for us

645
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: that we really liked and my wife. I found it

646
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: in the and I showed my wife and she loved it,

647
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: but neither of us in the purchase thought about how

648
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: important a studio of art is for my wife. And

649
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: I feel bad. I've this is something that I'm trying

650
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: to solve right now. So I find in my life.

651
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: My kids understand Dad's busy, and understand Dad can't be

652
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: there for everything. But I'd better make my wife happy.

653
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: And if I f that up, I'm in good trouble,

654
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: of course, which is you know. My takeaway from that

655
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: story is Collin's about to have to buy one of

656
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: his neighbor's houses. Maybe two house guys, two house guys,

657
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: same block. Why why do you have two houses? I

658
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: put this up. I didn't have the studio for my

659
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: wife's and I have two houses to two hours and

660
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Brentwood guy, Okay, let me think I don't have anything

661
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: else to be honest with you. I like just talking

662
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: about this. I don't nothing else. I don't think we

663
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: need to talk about anything else. I don't think we

664
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: have no Listen. That's I think we did. I think

665
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: we did good. You once again have managed to do

666
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: this whole podcast without talking about how great Mahomes is.

667
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: That's fine, you know it. Just maybe by his third

668
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl we can do a podcast on him. Go ahead, yeah,

669
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: I will say. The things that attract Mahomes to me

670
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: are not the things that attract perhaps Mahomes to you.

671
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: What I think is his greatest gift is his ability

672
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: to disarm people. He disarms the media, he disarms teammates.

673
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: He is America's greatest football talent, and you would never

674
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: know it. He has a really incredibly engaging and welcoming personality,

675
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: and I think that's important. Brady has done this for years.

676
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: Rookies come in and he goes high. I'm Tom Brady, Tom. Yeah,

677
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: and that's it's great. It's a really still I got

678
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: something on Mahomes that I don't think maybe did you

679
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: see the heart rate thing a couple of hours ago? Okay,

680
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: so people don't know he wears a heart rate monitor

681
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: during the game, and I know this was one of

682
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: the most fascinating things. I feel like you could do

683
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: an hour on this alone. So they monitor his heart

684
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: rate the whole game. His heart rate repeatedly was the

685
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: highest when he didn't have the ball when he's when,

686
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: and his heart rate dropped the lowest while he was playing.

687
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: So he is at his calmest when he's the one

688
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: in control. The only time during this game where his

689
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: heart rate showed he was under severe stress or anxiety

690
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: was when he couldn't control the situation when he's watching

691
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: the Bills. The fact that that was true even on

692
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: the thirteen seconds left drive is a remarkable thing. It

693
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: is a remarkable thing. And you could see it on

694
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: his face that, to me, was as impressive as any

695
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: throw he made. I knew that when when the Bills

696
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: scored in the minute fifty four left, I knew he

697
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: felt fine, like, oh, this is thank god you didn't

698
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: take more time. I'm down, I'm down three, I have

699
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: all three time outside two minutes, We're fine. When the

700
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: Bills scored with thirteen seconds left, and I'm sitting here

701
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: and my son's watching the game with me, and he's

702
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 1: lying to me saying there's still time. He just because

703
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm beside myself. I was, you know, I was. I

704
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: couldn't believe they had blown it. They showed Mahomes and

705
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: he just casually took his jacket off and started throwing,

706
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: and it's like he really did believe. Okay, what are

707
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: thirteens and two plays? We got a chance? Like we

708
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: we got a chance. That to me is as you know,

709
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm so young. I didn't watch Montana's career,

710
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, my honest to god, the want I have

711
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: one year of my football watching life of Montana as

712
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: a forty nine er one, and then he went to

713
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: the Chiefs like so the I don't remember how cool

714
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: Montana was, but that's what everybody always says that Montana

715
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: was like that. Brady obviously has been like that. But

716
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: this is Mahomes is a different animal in the in

717
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: the regard of this to have that coolness, that clutch,

718
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: that ability, and he is such a better athlete than

719
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: Montana or Brady ever dreamt of being. You mentioned Elway,

720
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: always a good example, always was stronger than Malomes, but

721
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: always a great athlete. You know what I mean is

722
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: Steve Young, Those are guys are great athletes. Momomes is

723
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: that level of athleticism to go with everything else. It's

724
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: really unbelievable. It's just unbelievable. Yeah. And Aaron Rodgers wears

725
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: that same device and it peaks when he's watching my show.

726
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: They're funny, man, No, it's good. Listen Aaron. Let's just

727
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: I know it is probably going too long. There's two

728
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: minutes on. Rogers then goes that cool. Yes, I I

729
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: really don't like the victimhood that he is, just like,

730
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: it's so exhausting, nauseating, and it is to me so

731
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: detached from not only are like his facts and figures

732
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: on vaccines and COVID detached from reality, his analysis of

733
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: like he has been. Remember when he did the foot

734
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: press conference and he was loud about this person wrote

735
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: the article fake news, bad journalism, and the person who

736
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: saw him about didn't write the article. It was a

737
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: different reporter. I like to be that loud and that

738
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 1: wrong about something that basic and not publicly apologized maybe

739
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: privately did I don't know, not publicly apologize, and then

740
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: to come out and be like the whole world was

741
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: rooting for me because they're rooting against me. Yeah, man,

742
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: because you have been intentionally provided cockative, you have been

743
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: intent You can't wade into these waters intentionally, knowingly smugly,

744
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: and then it would have been could you imagine? This

745
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: is an analogy I was trying to bring up with

746
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: their should today if after the Chiefs loss, if I

747
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: went on TV, if they had lost to the Bills,

748
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: if I went on TV, and I was like, I

749
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, guys, I think it's outrageous the things

750
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: Bills fans are saying to me on Twitter. What I've

751
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: been an asshole to them for two years. I've been

752
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: daring them to do it. Like there's an element of

753
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: like if you are to cross pollinate a bit. I

754
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: think if people are mean on Twitter to Scott Van Pelt,

755
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: they're probably just assholes. Because Scott is in our business

756
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: but doesn't do especially since he left radio. He doesn't

757
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: give controversial opinions. He seems incredibly likable. He does Sports Center,

758
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: He's always smiling, he's nice, he's nice online. When people

759
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: are mean to you or me, I'm usually like, yeah,

760
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: probably it's probably fair. I mean, I prefer some of it,

761
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: but like we were provocative people and so like I

762
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: just it is so baffling to me, Like at least

763
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: Baker doesn't whine about it, Like Baker knows that people

764
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: are going to come after him. I think he wants

765
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: people too, and he like uses it and tries to

766
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: use his fuel. Maybe it doesn't work, but for Aaron

767
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: to do this, woe is me stuff. I think it

768
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: is unbecoming. I think it's really unbecoming. Well, and also

769
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: Um Russell, Wilson, Brady Peyton, Manning, Mahomes, Josh Allen keep

770
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: illustrating and telling you how much they love the game.

771
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Aaron is constantly reminding you he could leave it tomorrow

772
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: and be totally happy. It's called projecting when you have

773
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: to remind me that you don't need something. You need something.

774
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: But even by the way, even if it's not projecting,

775
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: even if it's totally true, it's terrible marketing. It's like you,

776
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: this is a sport where you have eighty thousand people

777
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: in zero degree weather paying money to be in that environment.

778
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to sit

779
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: in the cold, in the snow to cheer for you.

780
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: That's how much I care about it. I'm gonna build

781
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: my Sunday's run. That's how much I care about it.

782
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: You don't want to hear from the star players. Yeah,

783
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: you know, I could take it or leave it. Even

784
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: if it's true. It's just it's just terrible. Again, I'll

785
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: just use our business. The number one thing you probably

786
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: used to hear, maybe you still do it, is people say,

787
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, you have the dream job, Like, oh

788
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: my god, I wish I could do what you do

789
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: for a living. You get to talk about sports for

790
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: a living. Do you think people would find you or

791
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: me as relatable or as likable if we were regularly

792
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: being like, let me tell you something, I don't really

793
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: love the gig that much. Like I'm really more into

794
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: like art and sculpting. Like I do it because I'm

795
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: good at it and it pays well. But yeah, kind

796
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: of bores me. People be like, man, bleep, you I

797
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: kill for that job, like you just eat. And by

798
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: the way, they've probably been times in your career where

799
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: it maybe you haven't need a new challenge. Maybe it

800
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: did bore You're like, Okay, I've kind of mastered this

801
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: part of it, but you wouldn't tell people that, not publicly.

802
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, the fact that Rogers has

803
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: gone from the public like a Q rating or whatever

804
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: that he had nine months ago to this without there

805
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: being a crime committed is unprecedented. Yeah, it's unprecedented for

806
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: someone's public image to go through this without there being

807
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: some massive scam. Yeah. Listen, you can't rip the president, Fauci,

808
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: the vaccine the media and think they'll be absolutely no

809
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: blowback talking about it's so nuts, it's such a it's

810
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: and that the thing is. And I always worry, like,

811
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: this is the thing with people, and that Kyrie and

812
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: this is not a vaccine thing with Kerry. People that

813
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: are smart ish that think they're brilliant usually end up

814
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 1: soundings incredibly dumb, way dumber than the dumb guy who

815
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: knows he's not that bright. So he's like, I'm not

816
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: really gonna talk about all this stuff. Like do I

817
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers has a higher IQ than Travis Kelsey? Yeah,

818
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: I knew. I guess what Travis Kelsey's doing, dating shows

819
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: and making jokes and catching footballs and having fun. He's

820
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: not trying to tell you, Hey, here's my ann Raine

821
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: rand book. Shut Up Atlas Lost, Shut up with your

822
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: Atlas shrug nonsense. Of all the books you could show

823
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: on the Manning cast, you show maybe the most politically

824
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: charged novel ever, like the novel that made a whole

825
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: generation of wanna be Reagan conservatives. That's your book. You're like, oh,

826
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: but I'm a political you'd like Biden. How could he

827
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: still be present without he publicly speak? What are you

828
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: talking about? Buddy? And by the way, you can see

829
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: you can have all those opinions, but you can't have

830
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: all those opinions then be like, why is everyone rooting

831
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: against me? So stupid? It's just so ridiculous. Okay, I'm done.

832
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: That was I don't read Atlas Shrugged. I read Andy

833
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: Reid Shrugged because that was his reaction. When he had

834
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds left. He looked at Mahomes. He went, good, good,

835
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: go win the game. All right? That one you had

836
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: a great line close podcasts fifteen minutes too. I wouldn't

837
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: let you do it. I had more things say that one.

838
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: We can close. But that's all right, buddy, see you later.

839
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: See it. The volume