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Speaker 2: What is in vogue right now as we're near the
Speaker 2: month of July and soon the start of training camp
Speaker 2: is the strength and depth of rosters around the NFL.
Speaker 2: We dig into that conversation tonight on Bears Weekly on
Speaker 2: ESPN one thousand of the Bears Radio Network with Super
Speaker 2: Bowl winning Bears guard Tom Fayer. I'm Jeff Joniak and
Speaker 2: from Syriacxcess, I'm NFL Radios moving the chains. We have
Speaker 2: former Bears quarterback Jim Miller. Thanks to our producers Dan
Speaker 2: Barrilli and Jordan Tredup, and in the ESPN studios tonight
Speaker 2: Kevin z Pack and Kendra Smith. The executive producer of
Speaker 2: the Bears Radio Network, Eric Well here from Bears quarterback
Speaker 2: coach Carrie Joseph on the multi tiered coaching approach to
Speaker 2: helping rookie quarterback Kato Williams in his first NFL season.
Speaker 2: Good to see you guys and everybody gearing up for
Speaker 2: their final vacation weeks before this started training camp, Tom,
Speaker 2: what do you have planned?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: The topic of the moment for me is I consider
Speaker 4: what an operation the NFL Draft is. Because I did
Speaker 4: pay attention last night or this past week to the
Speaker 4: NBA Draft, and when you look at the comparison of
Speaker 4: the magnitude of the draft, and I don't know just
Speaker 4: because we're coming off the first and the tenth or
Speaker 4: first and the ninth picking the NFL Draft, but when
Speaker 4: you look at the production what the NFL has become,
Speaker 4: oh my god, it is amazing. And so you know,
Speaker 4: I guess that's going to carry right through to the season.
Speaker 2: You know, Jim I mentioned de vacation to Tom, you know,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't believe in it.
Speaker 5: Number one.
Speaker 2: He does not believe in time away. It's either surfing
Speaker 2: or work, and it's.
Speaker 5: Not making.
Speaker 3: He's Bill Belichick. No days off, no days off. Hey,
Speaker 3: that's worked for a long time for Bill obviously.
Speaker 2: And for Tom. He does not take a day off
Speaker 2: from football. He's always texting something. We'll get to Tom's
Speaker 2: thoughts later on the program. But you know, this roster evaluation,
Speaker 2: this is the downtime before the start of training camp,
Speaker 2: so the final spasms of roster building is being analyzed
Speaker 2: at ESPN dot com. I had the forty nine Ers
Speaker 2: ranked the number one roster, and Kansas City the number
Speaker 2: two roster, Baltimore the number three, and the New York
Speaker 2: Jets the number four roster in terms of talent, and
Speaker 2: we'll get to some details of that in a second
Speaker 2: Detroit at number five, green Bay number thirteen, Minnesota number
Speaker 2: twenty three, the Bears at number seventeen. And so there's
Speaker 2: a lot of opinions about all that. I'll start with Jim,
Speaker 2: because of the Jets angle. I know they have a
Speaker 2: really good cornerback trio, and they've got Aaron Rodgers, and
Speaker 2: they've got a really good defensive front. Some questions probably
Speaker 2: on the offensive line still, But did that surprise you
Speaker 2: from their evaluation?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because well, I think we know that the Jets
Speaker 3: are going all in, but they're going all in with veterans.
Speaker 3: You know, you've got the veteran Aaron Rodgers coming off
Speaker 3: of injury, Tyron Smith. When's the last time he's played
Speaker 3: an entire season. You know, they brought him over from Dallas,
Speaker 3: Morgan Moses, they signed him when he was coming back
Speaker 3: from a torn peck. He's got some injury history. And
Speaker 3: then obviously the receiver Williams coming over from the LA Chargers,
Speaker 3: who's coming off in ACL You got a lot of
Speaker 3: veteran players that are well over thirty that are coming
Speaker 3: back from injury. So I don't think anybody denies that
Speaker 3: the experience is there, But how are they going to
Speaker 3: hold up the entirety of a season because all of
Speaker 3: them are coming off of injury. Like I said in
Speaker 3: Tyron Smith, I don't think he's played a complete seventeen
Speaker 3: game schedule or game you know, game time, log, game time.
Speaker 3: I think it's going back five or six years for him.
Speaker 3: So you just worried about for them if they can
Speaker 3: go the entire duration. You know, you're gonna give them
Speaker 3: veteran days off and try and keep them fresh and
Speaker 3: all those things, but will those bodies hold up? So
Speaker 3: I personally wouldn't put them that high where the Jets
Speaker 3: are in terms of a ranking of a roster.
Speaker 6: Yeah, not a chance.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: The thing about it is say that Zach Wilson half
Speaker 4: hit the mark for what the Jets and where they
Speaker 4: picked them. If Zach Wilson was still the quarterback and
Speaker 4: they were still trying to see if that he was
Speaker 4: going to be the guy in the future, the Jets
Speaker 4: would be about seventeen or eighteen. But because they have
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers and he's recovering from an achilles tear and
Speaker 4: they brought in, as Jim said, Tyron Smith, they think
Speaker 4: that all of a sudden, these guys are going to
Speaker 4: be capable of playing a seventeen game schedule and not
Speaker 4: miss any snaps. So it's kind of funny that who's
Speaker 4: ever making these claims are making their claims on the
Speaker 4: veterans they brought aboard, not necessarily of the talent that
Speaker 4: already is on hand.
Speaker 2: Here's an interesting thing too, look at they say they
Speaker 2: picked the biggest weaknesses, the biggest strengths to the teams,
Speaker 2: among other things. But for the forty nine Ers, biggest
Speaker 2: weakness offensive line, Kansas City biggest weakness offensive tackle, Baltimore
Speaker 2: number three guard, biggest weakness Miami, Jacksonville, Seattle all the
Speaker 2: top ten of their roster building guard, tackle, offensive line,
Speaker 2: overall biggest weaknesses. They ranked the Bear's biggest strength at
Speaker 2: wide receiver, the biggest weakness at defensive line, and we
Speaker 2: know that that still has to vet itself out. Green
Speaker 2: Bay's biggest strength edge, biggest weakness off the ball, linebacker, minies,
Speaker 2: biggest weakness interior defensive line.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of interesting that.
Speaker 2: You got the top teams and everybody likes all the
Speaker 2: shiny toys, but the line of scrimmage has still got
Speaker 2: to come through and that and that also applies to
Speaker 2: the Bears.
Speaker 4: Tommy, Hey, Jeff, you know, if you want to, you know,
Speaker 4: talk about what they evaluated as the Bear's biggest weakness.
Speaker 4: That's why I say Dominique Robinson is probably the most important,
Speaker 4: not newcomer, but the what we've seen out of him,
Speaker 4: his commitment to the weight room, what he looks like
Speaker 4: now that he did two years ago.
Speaker 6: If Dominique Robinson can come in.
Speaker 4: And play to his look there, then that's a lot
Speaker 4: of the Bears issues and concerns. If they feel that
Speaker 4: they have to go out there and sign a free
Speaker 4: agent that's on the marker right now, and bring him in.
Speaker 4: They better bring him in at the beginning of training
Speaker 4: camp so he has this ramp up time that everybody
Speaker 4: wants to talk about these days. Don't bring him in
Speaker 4: a week before the regular season starts and then say, oh,
Speaker 4: we'll have him ramped up week five of the regular season.
Speaker 4: Because you're already in the rearview mirror of a lot
Speaker 4: of teams.
Speaker 2: Then, well, the Bears at eighty nine right now, one
Speaker 2: roster spot's still available for the start of training camp. Jim,
Speaker 2: do you agree with most of those assessments and do
Speaker 2: we often?
Speaker 5: I guess. I guess. The statement I'd like to.
Speaker 2: Make is, is any team completely one hundred percent comfortable
Speaker 2: with their starters in depth on the offensive line, because
Speaker 2: you could always say you have a weakness on the
Speaker 2: offensive line.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you go into training camp on paper,
Speaker 3: you know, thinking that you're pretty good, that you've addressed
Speaker 3: to all the areas of your team that you need
Speaker 3: to address, and then maybe you put the pads on
Speaker 3: and it's not looking the way you thought it was
Speaker 3: going to look, you know, and that's when you start
Speaker 3: to say, hey, we've got to go out and find
Speaker 3: an offensive tackle. We've got to go out and shore
Speaker 3: up our interior offensive guards. You know, you mentioned Green
Speaker 3: Bay about off the ball linebackers. They addressed that with
Speaker 3: Edgrian Cooper, who's a rookie who they drafted. So how
Speaker 3: are those rookies going to perform? So again, I think
Speaker 3: on paper, everything looks good, and then once you put
Speaker 3: the pads on, you quickly find out, hey, there are
Speaker 3: some more needs that we're going to have. Injuries happen,
Speaker 3: Guys go down, Things happen. It's called life, and you're
Speaker 3: always kind of an addressing those things as it goes along,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: Jim and Jeff real quickly is when you look at
Speaker 4: the offensive tackle position, you look at the penalties from
Speaker 4: the Kansas City offensive tackles, you look at the injury
Speaker 4: scenario with the New York Jets offensive tackles, and then
Speaker 4: you look at the situation. Even though the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 4: said their biggest concern is guard, what about the health.
Speaker 6: Of Ronnie Stanley.
Speaker 4: No, he's not a guy that's been able to stay
Speaker 4: healthy the last couple of years. So I think, as
Speaker 4: much as you know, the Bears are in need of
Speaker 4: an edge rusher or defensive line contributors.
Speaker 6: You know every one of these teams.
Speaker 4: Offensive tackle could be can be an issue with every
Speaker 4: team on one side or the other. Maybe Tampa has
Speaker 4: probably got some of the best offensive tackle play in
Speaker 4: the league.
Speaker 2: Coming up next, well, visit with Bears quarterback coach Carrie Joseph.
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Speaker 1: Is Bears Weekly with the voice of the Bears for
Speaker 1: twenty three years, Jeff jony Anick on the Bears Radio Network.
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Speaker 2: MNFL Radios, Moving the chains at the end of the
Speaker 2: offseason program, All the Offensive assistants were available to the
Speaker 2: media for a few minutes, including quarterback coach Carrie Joseph.
Speaker 2: He comes over from Seattle, where he spent three seasons
Speaker 2: with Bears offensive coordinator Shane Waldron. Also on the staff
Speaker 2: is passing game coordinator Thomas Brown, a highly respected and
Speaker 2: regarded offensive mind from that same coaching branch of the
Speaker 2: Shanahan McVeigh tree and last season with Carolina, and rookie
Speaker 2: quarterback Bryce Young. There are offensive assistants also available to
Speaker 2: the quarterback, including Ryan Griffin, a former NFL quarterback, Robbie
Speaker 2: Picazzo who also comes aboard from Seattle, and as Joseph
Speaker 2: indicated a few weeks ago, everything coaching wise is falling
Speaker 2: into place for the rookie quarterback Caleb Williams.
Speaker 11: You know how it works. You know, it doesn't take
Speaker 11: a while. You know, when I was Seattle's assistant quarterback coach,
Speaker 11: he knew the chain of commands, right, you know, I
Speaker 11: was under the quarterback coach, so you knew. You know,
Speaker 11: you know, you roll when you know your role, you
Speaker 11: fulfill that role to the best of your ability. So
Speaker 11: it doesn't take a while. It's just you know, there's
Speaker 11: men working together to get a common goal accomplished. And
Speaker 11: that's what we that's what we're doing and we do
Speaker 11: that daily. And like I said, I worked with Shane
Speaker 11: for three years in Seattle, so right now I kind
Speaker 11: of know the way he moves.
Speaker 3: I know what he's looking.
Speaker 11: For, and I'm just making sure that you know, I'm
Speaker 11: always having his back, you know, that way, if he
Speaker 11: needs this, he doesn't have to look for to ask
Speaker 11: for it, because I'm already a step ahead.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 11: So when you're when you get to know somebody like
Speaker 11: that and you worked with them before, you know, it's
Speaker 11: it's a great combination. Her me.
Speaker 12: That's the last week that he gave the guys a
Speaker 12: homework assignment of detailing their three strengths to three weaknesses
Speaker 12: and asking them to describe their style of play. What
Speaker 12: was the feedback that Caleb gave yet at this point.
Speaker 11: You know what it was.
Speaker 5: It was good feedback.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 11: I don't know if I wanna put his stuff out there, Okay,
Speaker 11: but uh you know what he Uh, how can I
Speaker 11: say everything that he gave back is what you see
Speaker 11: with him?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 11: You know what you see with his work ethic, what
Speaker 11: you see with his dedication, and he knows his strength.
Speaker 11: He knows it his weak he knows his weaknesses. And
Speaker 11: when the player knows that and he owns up to it,
Speaker 11: now you know that guy's gonna work on him. Same
Speaker 11: with us as coaches. When you know your weakness, you're
Speaker 11: gonna say, Okay, how can I get better? You know,
Speaker 11: how can I get better? There's some on my weakness.
Speaker 11: And that's the things that they put on those papers.
Speaker 11: And what they put is it matches up to what
Speaker 11: they see. It matches up to what he what he
Speaker 11: you know, who he is and what he's all about.
Speaker 11: So I don't wanna put what he said on there,
Speaker 11: but it was very interesting to see it, like, Okay,
Speaker 11: well that's what we see every day, you know, and
Speaker 11: he knows it. So it's it's awesome to see.
Speaker 12: He has such a well earned reputation for driving off
Speaker 12: feedback and thriving off criticism. What is the value of
Speaker 12: that to the early stages of his career, of being
Speaker 12: open and receptive to all that that you guys are
Speaker 12: not born into it.
Speaker 11: You know what you're talking about being coachable. You're talking
Speaker 11: about a guy that wants to be great and to
Speaker 11: be coachable and is willing to listen to your ideas
Speaker 11: and your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 11: You know that's that's light light years ahead, you know,
Speaker 11: because he's not he doesn't have the mentality of I
Speaker 11: have my ideas, I have a way I want to
Speaker 11: do it. He's open, he's seen it, he's unders he
Speaker 11: understands that. You know, we all have different opinions. Even
Speaker 11: his opinion matters, right, so we actually speak, you know,
Speaker 11: speak your opinions so we all collectively can come together
Speaker 11: for what the good of his football team, but also
Speaker 11: for the good of him to make sure that he
Speaker 11: has the opportunity to succeed. So he's been tremendous with that.
Speaker 11: And uh, he works at it. It's something, whether it's footwork,
Speaker 11: whether it's something with fundamentals. You know, we talk about
Speaker 11: and you know what I love about him he'll ask
Speaker 11: he'll question you, well, why we're doing it? I love it,
Speaker 11: you know, cause now he wants to know. He just
Speaker 11: wants to know why or this is why. And then
Speaker 11: he's he's the proof in the Uh, in the work
Speaker 11: that we put.
Speaker 5: In the kids.
Speaker 6: Who's that gied to?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: Why, man, this is not different?
Speaker 9: You know what that is?
Speaker 11: Different, because I don't think i've ever I can look back.
Speaker 11: I don't think I ever turned to a coach and said, well, why,
Speaker 11: you know, when you really think about it, Yeah, I
Speaker 11: was just talking, you know, just asking me about my career,
Speaker 11: my journey. But I won't I don't think I've ever
Speaker 11: like turned to a coach and said, like why. I
Speaker 11: might have shut the coach off a little bit because
Speaker 11: I didn't want to hear the screaming and yelling, but
Speaker 11: I was listening to him. Yeah, yeah, but hey, it's
Speaker 11: different times, different generation. And uh that's why you always
Speaker 11: got to adjust as a as a as a coach,
Speaker 11: and as a person because it is different. It's not
Speaker 11: the same one I play. So it's having an understanding.
Speaker 11: And uh, I always say, man, that's why I got
Speaker 11: two years to listen, all right, and we can always grow.
Speaker 3: We always got different ways to skin that cat.
Speaker 11: So just at the end of the day, is about
Speaker 11: how can we get it together to win football games?
Speaker 2: So Tom and Jim, what is the impact of all
Speaker 2: this coaching support? They really put a lot of thought
Speaker 2: into it. They targeted specific individuals after the hiring of
Speaker 2: Shane Waldron to compliment his coaching style. There's familiarity on
Speaker 2: the staff at other position groups as well. How important
Speaker 2: is this and it's really a lot of resources put
Speaker 2: at the most important position in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Hey, Jim, let me go first, because I have a
Speaker 4: question for you kind of to piggyback on this. So
Speaker 4: you know, Jeff, when you're an offensive lineman, you're really
Speaker 4: consistent about your fundamentals and techniques because they transfer week
Speaker 4: to week. And Dick Stanfeld always make a statement saying,
Speaker 4: look for you guys to improve, you eventually have to
Speaker 4: start coaching yourself.
Speaker 6: And so my question for Jim, being a former quarterback.
Speaker 4: Is that the details of the quarterback position is never
Speaker 4: totally done because you're facing new type of personnel, different
Speaker 4: types of defenses, different types of analytic.
Speaker 6: Responses to the down and distances.
Speaker 4: So as offensive line, you can take a player and
Speaker 4: you can mature them and they can be coached. Quarterback,
Speaker 4: it seems like you're never completely coached as far as
Speaker 4: you know. If you want to look at Brady to
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams and how much there is in between, do
Speaker 4: you agree or disagree?
Speaker 6: Jim?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes time, It takes experience, It takes growth.
Speaker 3: You know, think about when Tom Brady first arrived at
Speaker 3: New England and he learned their system and he stayed
Speaker 3: in that system for almost twenty years. By the time
Speaker 3: he was at the end of those twenty years, he's
Speaker 3: like an Encyclopedia Britannica. You know, if you just pull
Speaker 3: out what you want. Let's go to red zone package here.
Speaker 3: Remember when we did this against so and so. Let's
Speaker 3: bring that back. Let's go to coming out period. Let's
Speaker 3: do this. Let me pull the two minute book, you know,
Speaker 3: out of the out of the Britannica and go over
Speaker 3: a couple things again. So you do you learn so
Speaker 3: much you grow. It's just knowledge. And I think the
Speaker 3: thing for whether it's Carry Joseph and Shane Waldron who
Speaker 3: have been together, they know what they want it to
Speaker 3: look like. You know, you mentioned the Three Wives, Jeff,
Speaker 3: and how highly ranked the Bears are in their three wives. Well,
Speaker 3: go look at Seattle. They drafted Jackson Smith and Jigba,
Speaker 3: they had Tyler Lockett, and they had Metcalf. They know
Speaker 3: what a talented three wide receiver package should look like.
Speaker 3: Running the ball with with Kenneth Walker, they know what
Speaker 3: it should look like. You know, in terms of how
Speaker 3: Seattle Seattle two years ago walker like burst onto the
Speaker 3: scene as as as a rookie. So I think they
Speaker 3: know they've been together, they know what it should look like.
Speaker 3: And for Carrie Joseph, he knows what it should sound
Speaker 3: like when it comes out of when a play is
Speaker 3: called out of Caleb Williams head, and then how it
Speaker 3: should be executed. And granted, Caleb's gonna have a different
Speaker 3: flare than say Geno Smith or Russell Wilson. Everybody's got
Speaker 3: their own style with how they do it, but it's
Speaker 3: how it should look like and how they want it
Speaker 3: to look like to be executed.
Speaker 2: Tom, I think you intimated this as well. Eventually it's
Speaker 2: Caleb going to become his own offensive coordinator in a
Speaker 2: sense because he's gonna know he's going to have the
Speaker 2: answers to the test and that's going to take time
Speaker 2: obviously for every quarterback, but that's that's the goal.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I exactly.
Speaker 4: And I think the positive reinforcement that all these coaches
Speaker 4: can give the quarterback room initially, you know, like Dick Stanfeld,
Speaker 4: you say, eventually you have to start coaching yourself.
Speaker 6: And I think, no matter what position you play.
Speaker 4: If you have the luxury of being experienced in the
Speaker 4: same system for a long period of time, then you
Speaker 4: do start, you know, coaching yourself, and you become your
Speaker 4: your best own asset.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, I'm impressed with this offensive staff.
Speaker 2: They got great personalities, They're very exuberant, they're very polished.
Speaker 2: Really enjoy talking to Kerry Joseph, and then the position
Speaker 2: coaches as well, and of course the returning offensive line
Speaker 2: coach and run game coordinator Chris Morgan. I think the
Speaker 2: offensive staff and I hope it can stay together.
Speaker 5: For several years so you get the most.
Speaker 2: Out of this without having to reinvent the wheel and
Speaker 2: go through that whole learning process again. Is that's that's
Speaker 2: the rub in the NFL. If it's constant change, it's
Speaker 2: constant trouble. We'll take another break. We'll have back with
Speaker 2: more with Tom and Jim after this on ESPN one
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Speaker 2: moving the change as we get set for a training
Speaker 2: camp in twenty twenty four and time for Tom's thoughts,
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Speaker 2: is always turned on Jim. He's an idea man, That's
Speaker 2: what he is. So I bet you're on the edge
Speaker 2: of your seat. What is he come up with this week?
Speaker 6: Are you? I like to hear the thoughts of Jim Miller.
Speaker 4: There's you know, he's got as much experience in the
Speaker 4: everyday football business that.
Speaker 2: Ends well, yes, so, but this is Tom Stotts. This
Speaker 2: is Tom starts here.
Speaker 4: And think about him and I'd like to get your guys' reactions.
Speaker 5: Well, here's one of them, Jim.
Speaker 2: Ready, can the impact newcomers be alphas in the locker room?
Speaker 2: We're talking about Montese what obviously bridging the gap from
Speaker 2: last season to this, Kevin Byer, the veteran safety, Keenan Allen,
Speaker 2: a wide receiver, and then of course the quarterback Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: Albeit have to be grown organically everybody's going to be
Speaker 2: looking to the young man to lead the way and
Speaker 2: lead this football team. So I lead off with Jim,
Speaker 2: can these guys be automatic alphas in the locker room
Speaker 2: or is there still a transition period that must take place,
Speaker 2: or maybe it's already happened in the offseason program.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, some guys have it and some guys don't.
Speaker 3: Some guys can grow into that alpha male, I think again,
Speaker 3: I always say this about quarterback. By default, you're a
Speaker 3: leader because you have to communicate, you know, for it
Speaker 3: to for everything to work. And you know, even I'll
Speaker 3: give you the example is Brock Perdy out there at
Speaker 3: San Francisco. I guess when he got into his first game,
Speaker 3: some of the players were talking in the huddle and
Speaker 3: he said, shut up, we got a job to do here.
Speaker 3: You know, basically listen to what I'm going to say here.
Speaker 3: So he took control right away, and I think we
Speaker 3: see the success he had. The other example I'd say
Speaker 3: is Devin Witherspoon, a corner who was drafted out of
Speaker 3: Illinois by the Seattle Seahawks. I'll never forget this went
Speaker 3: to we were doing the training camp tour. We went
Speaker 3: there and you could tell he already had dominated and
Speaker 3: proven to the other cornerbacks out there and the guys
Speaker 3: on the team that hey, I'm in control here, and
Speaker 3: they were all following him. So certain guys just have
Speaker 3: it within him. I thought it was interesting last week
Speaker 3: when we were talking to the receivers coach Roma Doonza
Speaker 3: wants to follow the lead of Keenan Allen, and DJ
Speaker 3: Morey said, well, he's kind of shy right now, you know,
Speaker 3: but there'll be a point where he steps up and says, oh,
Speaker 3: I got this. I'm gonna sit back with the veterans,
Speaker 3: be respectful and all those type of things. But I
Speaker 3: think at some point he'll come out of his shell
Speaker 3: and show that he's a dominator like he did for
Speaker 3: the Washington Huskies. But that takes time, and I think
Speaker 3: he's just being respectful of the other veterans, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Jimmy Jeff. I would like to see Darnell Mooney.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see Gervon Dexter. I'd like to see
Speaker 4: ja Kawan Brisker. I know TJ. Edwards and Tremaine Edmunds
Speaker 4: are already, but the other guys that I was asking about,
Speaker 4: because they're so new onto the scene of the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 6: When you need.
Speaker 4: Those personalities inside the locker room that bring that message
Speaker 4: with them every single day. Are we expecting too much
Speaker 4: of guys that have only been around for a few
Speaker 4: months or can they carry the weight of their other
Speaker 4: experiences the NFL with them into their locker room and
Speaker 4: try to get that message into the locker room as
Speaker 4: quickly as possible.
Speaker 2: I think it's an automatic because of the way they
Speaker 2: how they got here.
Speaker 5: I mean, they've done this a long time.
Speaker 2: Their professional attributes are going to be noticed by younger people,
Speaker 2: no question about it, and even even guys that have
Speaker 2: been here a minute, like DJ Moore. We're talking about
Speaker 2: a thirteen year veteran in Keenan Allen. There's something Marcedes Lewis.
Speaker 2: They talked about the Big Dog all the time, about
Speaker 2: just watching how he goes about his daily and that's
Speaker 2: taking care of your body, for one, and just what
Speaker 2: you say, when you say it, how you say it.
Speaker 5: I mean those things. If you're really.
Speaker 2: Paying attention and if you wally really want to be great,
Speaker 2: you're you're getting these notes down mentally and essentially on
Speaker 2: your notepad as well about how these guys carry themselves
Speaker 2: and that goes for any position.
Speaker 5: And obviously DJ and you misspoke.
Speaker 2: Tommy, Darnell Mooney you mean Darnell right, Darnell right, of course.
Speaker 2: And and I'll lead this to Jim as well. And
Speaker 2: Tom do you need to have an alpha or two?
Speaker 2: Did they have to really be out in front on
Speaker 2: the offensive line?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's important. Yeah, guy who speaks up
Speaker 3: and you know, for us or for me when I
Speaker 3: played for the Chicago Bears, obviously that was Olin Krutz.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 3: You know. Olin Crutz was very vocal about what was needed,
Speaker 3: the toughness, the physicality. He led everybody and and kind
Speaker 3: of you know, communicated to everybody that this is how
Speaker 3: it needs to be so and you saw it in
Speaker 3: a in his play, and you also saw it through
Speaker 3: his leadership and how he communicated to other teammates that
Speaker 3: he led by example in both those you know, in
Speaker 3: all areas that were necessary. And it's a good example
Speaker 3: to follow.
Speaker 4: I think Tevin is on the cusp of that. If
Speaker 4: we could have Tevin Jenkins, the guy that goes out
Speaker 4: there and shows a motion beyond the whistle, who goes
Speaker 4: out there and.
Speaker 6: Shows a real physical style of play.
Speaker 4: If he can bring that from the practice field to
Speaker 4: the game field into the locker room. I do think
Speaker 4: that Tevian is on the cusp of being one of
Speaker 4: these alpha males that has a little bit of nastiness
Speaker 4: in his game that can spill over to some of
Speaker 4: the other guys on that team.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, did you five all have
Speaker 2: that trait on your offensive line? Jimbo Covert, Mark Boards,
Speaker 2: Jay Hilgenberg, Tom Thayer, Keith van Horn.
Speaker 4: The most alpha male inside the locker room was Mike Ditka,
Speaker 4: and that's spilled over to the offensive players, and it
Speaker 4: carried through because we had such respect for Dick Stanfeld,
Speaker 4: you know. And I was thinking about this, you guys,
Speaker 4: because you know, of all the success, the ten Pro Bowls,
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame career that Mike Singletary had, he
Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily as alpha as a guy like Otis Wilson was.
Speaker 6: Otis was a.
Speaker 4: True badass in every sense, the way he practiced, the
Speaker 4: way he carried himself, his professionalism, his preparedness, and how
Speaker 4: physical he played on the field.
Speaker 6: You go ask Lewis Lips when he came in motion
Speaker 6: and he was.
Speaker 4: Going to crack back on Otis and Ois forearmed him
Speaker 4: and knocked him out and got. I don't know if
Speaker 4: he got suspended or fined for it, but he was
Speaker 4: delivering example of alpha male in every terms of a
Speaker 4: football player that you needed to have when you're playing
Speaker 4: alongside a future Hall of Fame er.
Speaker 6: So you know that's what I'm saying. But in our
Speaker 6: sense of our team.
Speaker 4: Dicka was as alpha male as you could possibly have,
Speaker 4: even from the coaching booth.
Speaker 2: Jim Best AALFA leader you ever been around, You're on
Speaker 2: several teams.
Speaker 3: Kevin Green, Kevin Green.
Speaker 5: I thought you'd say Tom Brady, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well no, Brady was that way too, But Kevin Green
Speaker 3: was just he was a tone setter. I mean that
Speaker 3: guy like like Tom said, you know, he'd make he'd
Speaker 3: make you shiver. I remember when huh so I got
Speaker 3: I got signed by Atlanta and we were playing Carolina,
Speaker 3: and I remember we were going through stretch and Tony
Speaker 3: Graziani was going to be the starter uh that game,
Speaker 3: and Kevin Green came to the fifty and he just
Speaker 3: kept on saying, Grotzi, Grotzi, Grotzi. Because Garrozzi was a
Speaker 3: young quarterback, he didn't even stretch, didn't even do anything.
Speaker 3: And he was in this guy's head the entire game,
Speaker 3: you know, so and it did not go well, and
Speaker 3: that Caroline had dominated the game, and it it was
Speaker 3: it was just something to see his present on a field.
Speaker 3: It was just something to see.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: Don't under eight or underestimate the two thousand and one
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears with Jim Miller as the quarterback and how
Speaker 2: he led that football team. I remember you going to
Speaker 2: the podium, owning it and getting a little little chapped
Speaker 2: at a few things when things weren't going well, and
Speaker 2: you expressed your opinion. I mean, that always impressed me
Speaker 2: and Dick Jaron said it all the time. If the
Speaker 2: man could have just stayed healthy, you know, and that
Speaker 2: just rings in everybody's ears.
Speaker 5: You were a heck of a QB big Jim.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Thank you. I said it was fun
Speaker 3: to play for the Bears. A what a just a
Speaker 3: complete joy yep.
Speaker 2: Exactly, all right, we come back. We'll dig in a
Speaker 2: little deeper to Tom's thoughts. Here on ESPN one thousand
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Speaker 1: Network, Excuse Bears Weekly with a voice of the Bears
Speaker 1: for twenty three years Jeff Jonyanik on the Bears Radio Network.
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Speaker 2: People get it up in Tom and Jim Miller here
Speaker 2: on Bears Weekly. As we break down the season as
Speaker 2: it approaches, there's always the talk about extensions. These are
Speaker 2: part of Tom's thoughts as well. He saw extensions obviously
Speaker 2: here in the in the past few years to guys
Speaker 2: like Cole Kmet, Jalen Johnson and Montes what when he
Speaker 2: got here?
Speaker 5: But now who the next guys?
Speaker 2: Who's next in the next round of potential extensions In
Speaker 2: the conversation, well, you start with the free agents at
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: Who is signed.
Speaker 2: Only through this season? And of course there's a lot
Speaker 2: of one year veteran deals. We're going to discount those
Speaker 2: for the most part. Except for Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen,
Speaker 2: you gotta consider he has not been shy at the
Speaker 2: podium in the offseason program. When he got up to
Speaker 2: the podium there at hallisall said he, you know, he
Speaker 2: got a new agent, so he's looking to get a
Speaker 2: new contract.
Speaker 5: Tom mentioned it.
Speaker 2: Tevin Jenkins is another one and then the guys that
Speaker 2: have been around, a guy like Larry Borham, who's a
Speaker 2: swing tackle, hopefully competing for that again this year, Kyrie
Speaker 2: blasting Game at fullback, Travis Homer an impact special teamer,
Speaker 2: Khalil Herbert at running back, and Jack Sanborn in the
Speaker 2: final year of his rookie contract, a twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: free agent as a valuable piece to that defense. Other
Speaker 2: than that, you'd have to go and do advanced work
Speaker 2: on the twenty twenty six free agents, and obviously DJ
Speaker 2: Moore is going to be in that conversation for an
Speaker 2: early extension.
Speaker 5: I would one hundred percent imagine.
Speaker 2: That that twenty twenty six group includes Nate Davis, TJ. Edwards,
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Walker, Kevin byerd Gerald Everett, Ryan Bates, and then
Speaker 2: three intriguing names, Kyler Gordon, your nickel, Jakwan Brisker, your
Speaker 2: starting safety, and Braxton Jones at left tackle. I put
Speaker 2: all those out there, Tommy, there you go. It's a
Speaker 2: lot to think about.
Speaker 4: It's a conversation that never dies down because if you
Speaker 4: watch sports enough, you can hear the topic that is
Speaker 4: on the TV and radio daily from other teams, and
Speaker 4: the concerns they have. And then when you think about
Speaker 4: those young defensive backs of where they're going to be
Speaker 4: in a couple of years and where the Bears are
Speaker 4: going to be in the next couple of years, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of big time decisions for Ryan Poles is
Speaker 4: going to have to make about where you're going.
Speaker 6: To put this money.
Speaker 4: And you think about that extension that Justin Jefferson and
Speaker 4: these receivers are getting, and you think about Keenan Allen
Speaker 4: and where he's at in his career. You're gonna have
Speaker 4: a lot of decisions that are gonna have to be made.
Speaker 4: And then I know it's off in the distance, but
Speaker 4: you're always going to be thinking about that second contract
Speaker 4: for a guy like Caleb and rom A Doonza, so
Speaker 4: you know it's you can never lose sight of those.
Speaker 4: But all these other contracts that you brought up is
Speaker 4: just definite reasons for a guy like Larry Boram, excuse me,
Speaker 4: a guy like Larry Boram to go out and have
Speaker 4: the best, you know, a couple of years that he
Speaker 4: can possibly have if he really if the Bears are
Speaker 4: going to take him into serious consideration for a future
Speaker 4: career here or is he opening opportunities for other teams.
Speaker 6: And that's the same thing with Jack Sandborn.
Speaker 4: You look at how well that he's played and how
Speaker 4: he's been thought of in the NFL. He's the type
Speaker 4: of guy like Nick Wakowski that went and got a
Speaker 4: free agent opportunity from the Raiders because he had some
Speaker 4: success with the Bears. It's just something that we as
Speaker 4: Bears fans, can never stop paying attention to.
Speaker 5: Jim. What do you think about all that? There's a
Speaker 5: lot of matt there.
Speaker 2: And let me just say it also signifies that the
Speaker 2: salary cap has been managed beautifully by Ryan Poles. They
Speaker 2: didn't they have not had to pay the big money
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position just yet. But right now, for example,
Speaker 2: according to spot track that track this stuff, cap space
Speaker 2: right now twenty one point six million, which is fourteenth
Speaker 2: in the league.
Speaker 5: New England, Detroit.
Speaker 2: Washington, Vegas, Arizona, San Francisco, Minnesota, Green Bay in the
Speaker 2: top eight salary cap space. So in your division, all
Speaker 2: four teams are pretty good spot right now. To still
Speaker 2: do some things with extensions and whatnot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's layers to it, you know. I
Speaker 3: think Howie Rossman does a great job for the Philadelphia
Speaker 3: Eagles and how he signs guys, and they typically Philadelphia
Speaker 3: has always gone to the younger players early who they
Speaker 3: believe that are going to be stars, and they throw
Speaker 3: out in early contracts. So whether that's say Kyler Gordon
Speaker 3: or Jakwan Brisker, you know, maybe those are guys that
Speaker 3: you would approach as this season goes along, if they're
Speaker 3: really starting to show their star power. I mean, because
Speaker 3: I think those are two young talented players that you
Speaker 3: may want to approach early because if they reach what
Speaker 3: you think the peak that you think they're going to reach,
Speaker 3: they're going to cost a lot more later, So they'd
Speaker 3: be nice to lock up now. Probably the receivers. Caleb's
Speaker 3: obviously on his rookie deal here, so you're going to
Speaker 3: want to see a little bit maturity through him, you know.
Speaker 3: So I would think, you know, Keenan Allen maybe is
Speaker 3: a guy that you'd want to target. And you mentioned
Speaker 3: DJ Moores next year or the following year, so you
Speaker 3: at least you'd have Caleb a couple of years where
Speaker 3: he's with the veteran guys and then you could probably
Speaker 3: let them go because you feel roma Doomsay is where
Speaker 3: he's at in the growth and where he should be
Speaker 3: at that time. So there's layers to it. There's layers,
Speaker 3: and Ryan Poles is a smart guy. He'll figure it out.
Speaker 3: Kansas City's always done a good job. He's been taught
Speaker 3: well and we'll see where it goes. But I think
Speaker 3: so far, so good that the last two years how
Speaker 3: he's reshaped the roster has been pretty impressive.
Speaker 4: You know, guys, I think Tevin Jenkins probably has the
Speaker 4: most on the line, yep, because if he can come
Speaker 4: out there and play it in an all level as
Speaker 4: an offensive guard, and you see what the guards have
Speaker 4: been getting paid as of late, it's a lot of money.
Speaker 4: When he was drafted, he was drafted as possible considering
Speaker 4: being a starting left tackle in this league.
Speaker 6: So there's a difference of opinion.
Speaker 4: So the best thing that Tevin Jenkins can do is
Speaker 4: go out there and have a healthy seventeen game season
Speaker 4: and maybe get some Pro Bowl considerations to elevate his
Speaker 4: reputation in the league.
Speaker 2: And the biggest cap numbers on the Bears Montese Sweat
Speaker 2: number one at twenty five million, plus Keenan Allen twenty
Speaker 2: three million plus Tremaine Edmonds twenty two point four, Dj
Speaker 2: Moore sixteen, Jalen Johnson thirteen, Cole Comet eleven six, and
Speaker 2: Nate Davis eleven to three. Those are the biggest cap
Speaker 2: numbers on the Bears. All right, another topic from Tom
Speaker 2: cole Kmet. He's had twenty eight, sixty fifty and seventy
Speaker 2: three catches in his first four seasons.
Speaker 5: But now you got three receivers of.
Speaker 2: Note, you got Gerald Everett on the best two year
Speaker 2: stretch of production in his career coming to the Bears. So, Tommy,
Speaker 2: which direction do we expect his catches to go well?
Speaker 4: So in the last year of Caleb's career at USC,
Speaker 4: the tight end had twenty six catches, So it's not
Speaker 4: an ignored position even on the college level. But my
Speaker 4: concern is, if you have three receivers downfield and you
Speaker 4: have a really good running back out of the backfield,
Speaker 4: you know whether whomever it is, you know the Bears
Speaker 4: have a lot of good running backs that can catch.
Speaker 4: Are where is that level of catch gonna go to
Speaker 4: by Caleb?
Speaker 6: Is it gonna go to the running.
Speaker 4: Back that's maybe flaring out to the side downfield to
Speaker 4: a wide receiver, or is the tight end still going
Speaker 4: to be that seventy catch option.
Speaker 5: Jim Shane Alden likes using tight ends. He did in Seattle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned it two years ago when Gino Smith
Speaker 3: really took off their four tight ends. They had over
Speaker 3: a thousand yards in that room total, and he used
Speaker 3: them all. Cole is obviously a number one, and obviously Gerald,
Speaker 3: who they picked up, is a nice option for twelve
Speaker 3: personnel as well. But yeah, I think you know, to
Speaker 3: predict that room to go over, you know, eight hundred
Speaker 3: two one thousand yards is not out of the question.
Speaker 3: I think Shane will not ignore that position.
Speaker 5: All right, here's the nugget for you.
Speaker 2: So Darnell Moody had the most yack yards after the
Speaker 2: catch a wide receiver in twenty twenty two for the Bears.
Speaker 2: It was just one hundred and seventy three yards. Believe
Speaker 2: it or not, that was what it was. DJ Moore
Speaker 2: comes aboard. It escalated a five point fifty eight by DJ.
Speaker 2: He led the team. Mooney was second with one to
Speaker 2: ninety and then Tyler Scott at sixty five, which now
Speaker 2: you get the newcomers.
Speaker 5: Now the newcomers.
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen had four hundred and sixteen for the Chargers
Speaker 2: Romadoonza in College of Washington last year when he was
Speaker 2: number one of the FBS at five hundred and fourteen.
Speaker 2: So then Kerald Everett had two eighty, Cole Komett had
Speaker 2: two ninety nine, Roseean Johnson had two hundred and fifty four,
Speaker 2: Kaldil Herbert won thirteen, DeAndre Swift two sixty five. Is
Speaker 2: this gonna be a team that at the quarterback just
Speaker 2: finds completions? This group of guys is gonna blow the
Speaker 2: doors off a yet, Jim.
Speaker 3: I think it sounds great, you know, if he you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's an anomaly what CJ. Stroud did last year,
Speaker 3: you know, and to expect Caleb to perform at that
Speaker 3: level because he's he's his own guy. But he certainly
Speaker 3: has the talented players around him to do that and
Speaker 3: have a special season because he's insulated so well at
Speaker 3: all positions that are there around him, and he's just
Speaker 3: got to he's just got to do his job, not
Speaker 3: force things, just let the guys around him support him
Speaker 3: to get the ball to where it needs to be.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, if he does that, it could
Speaker 3: be a pretty special year.
Speaker 2: Offensively, Tom, You're always talking about finding first downs. He
Speaker 2: can find first downs with these guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how quickly the ball gets out of Caleb hands.
Speaker 4: Understanding the vulnerabilities of the protection and how you have
Speaker 4: to compliment that. And then you know, if you go back,
Speaker 4: you know, look at the analytics of passes completed from
Speaker 4: zero to ten yards. If they're you know, if they're
Speaker 4: you know, whether it's the running back of the tight end,
Speaker 4: if they can get the ball in their hands with
Speaker 4: some open space in front of them, Yeah, the yards
Speaker 4: after catch will increase. But just imagine if he can
Speaker 4: get the ball into the hands of one of the
Speaker 4: talented wide receivers with single coverage against them downfield, and
Speaker 4: what that yards after the catch means to that position
Speaker 4: that you know, sometimes computes the multiple touchdowns as much
Speaker 4: as yards after the catch.
Speaker 2: More statistical previews of what's ahead for the Bears in
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Speaker 2: look at things, Jim throw this at you. We know
Speaker 2: the running ability of Justin Fields was off the charts.
Speaker 2: Dynamic indeed led the NFL on third down rushing the
Speaker 2: last two seasons five hundred nineteen yards in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: two ninety three and twenty three and Q as it
Speaker 2: always is the case with the top seven third down
Speaker 2: rushers in the league. In twenty three, Kyron Williams, the
Speaker 2: running back of the Rams, number eight, he averaged five
Speaker 2: point twenty seven a carry on third down do you
Speaker 2: expect that kind of impact with the scrambling. Caleb Williams
Speaker 2: may now want to do that all the time. He's
Speaker 2: even said I like to play from the pocket. But
Speaker 2: how important is that, just that little bit bit of
Speaker 2: push from a mobile quarterback to pick up some of
Speaker 2: those third downs every now and again in the game
Speaker 2: because they do add up and they do keep a
Speaker 2: defense on their heels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know his history, Caleb Williams. When
Speaker 3: he scrambles, he's looking to throw. But I think if
Speaker 3: you if you're a quarterback in the league in the
Speaker 3: way the game is played today, if you can get
Speaker 3: three first downs with your feet, that's that's that's the bonus.
Speaker 3: And I think when you see guys like Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 3: during the year, he does that stuff, but in the
Speaker 3: postse and he definitely pushes the envelope. Remember the playoff
Speaker 3: game against Miami whereas in the cold, whereas Helmet shattered
Speaker 3: Hony gran for that for that first down, so he
Speaker 3: picked it up. So there are times to do it.
Speaker 3: But I think typically if you're rushing for about three
Speaker 3: first downs a game as a quarterback, your team is
Speaker 3: going to have much more success.
Speaker 2: Tom you talk about it all the time. You put
Speaker 2: it in your keys to the game. You'll come up
Speaker 2: with us stat Hey, if so and so gets four
Speaker 2: first downs with his legs, Bears are going to win
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so, I'll take it kind of opposite.
Speaker 4: I would go back and I would look at the
Speaker 4: statistics of sacks given up by the Bears offensive tackles,
Speaker 4: and then where do the vulnerabilities lie in the protection
Speaker 4: against Caleb Williams. Do the Bears feel that they can
Speaker 4: formulate a plan that they can give the offensive line
Speaker 4: and the best advantage to make sure Caleb is given
Speaker 4: the maximum amount of protection, to make sure that he
Speaker 4: can go through the decision.
Speaker 6: Process in his head early in the season.
Speaker 4: If they can do that, then I think that Caleb
Speaker 4: got every chance to be super successful and being able
Speaker 4: to maybe have that extra half or three quarters as
Speaker 4: a second to hold onto the.
Speaker 6: Ball to get it to that open receiver.
Speaker 4: The only thing that I would kind of concerns me
Speaker 4: if there was vulnerabilities on the Bears offensive line and
Speaker 4: there was immediate pressure in his face and now he's
Speaker 4: tried to escape from NFL talent, and that's kind of
Speaker 4: dangerous because it's going to be a lot different than
Speaker 4: escaping from you know, college type of defensive lineman that
Speaker 4: you're facing. So to me, all off season I've been
Speaker 4: talking about is my concerns about the offensive defensive line,
Speaker 4: and with a young quarterback, I still have those same concerns.
Speaker 4: So Braxton Jones is going to be have to become
Speaker 4: a stronger player at the left tackle position. I think
Speaker 4: Darnell Wright is going to make some huge strides. They're
Speaker 4: gonna have to be healthy on the inside where they
Speaker 4: miss him practice time last year in training camp, and
Speaker 4: if Chris Morgan can get an offensive line that sticks together,
Speaker 4: look for those guys to compliment Caleb Williams as much
Speaker 4: as the receivers, tight ends and running backs they have.
Speaker 2: I'm big on first down sacks. It's now different to
Speaker 2: me than a first down penalty butt you're in in
Speaker 2: in bad shape and there's a percentage analysis that you
Speaker 2: don't score as many touchdowns if you're working from behind
Speaker 2: the chains right away. But the Bears were last in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two and first down sacks allowed with twenty one.
Speaker 2: They improved with fourteen a year ago, but that was
Speaker 2: still bottom of the league.
Speaker 5: Tied for twenty first.
Speaker 2: Seattle Jim the fewest first down sacks allowed in the
Speaker 2: NFL last season with just four.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's yeah, that is a good stat you know.
Speaker 3: I think if you're you know, if you're a quarterback
Speaker 3: in league, if you're in the mid twenties, like twenty five,
Speaker 3: twenty six to twenty eight sacks a year, you're doing
Speaker 3: pretty good. Once you start getting up to forty, you know, fifty,
Speaker 3: I think we know the numbers for justin fields. I mean,
Speaker 3: with fifty five sacks, you know, so you know, but
Speaker 3: if you're in the mid twenties, you're cooking with gas.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Bears trail of the Giants only in most sacks
Speaker 2: allowed the last three years, and second most interceptions with
Speaker 2: fifty in the last three years, and the fewest passing
Speaker 2: first down since twenty twenty one. Second fewest pass plays
Speaker 2: of twenty five yards or more. San Francisco was number
Speaker 2: one in that for the last three years of one
Speaker 2: to twenty, Seattle number three, one hundred and ten.
Speaker 5: The big pass plays.
Speaker 2: Speaking to that talent that they had there at the
Speaker 2: outside down the perimeter.
Speaker 6: Can I give you an on air project, Yeah, sure.
Speaker 5: I'm always looking for homework.
Speaker 4: Tom next time we're on the air, can you give
Speaker 4: me the first down sacks that were given up by
Speaker 4: Tyson Bagent in the four games he started in comparison
Speaker 4: to the first down sacks that they gave up to
Speaker 4: the other to the other games that Justin played, because
Speaker 4: I think there will be a significant difference there in
Speaker 4: first out sacks. And when you talk about Seattle only
Speaker 4: giving up fourst down sacks in the.
Speaker 6: Season, that is that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I that would be one of my first
Speaker 4: questions that Shane Waldron would how how did you come
Speaker 4: to that efficiency effectiveness you know of that that because
Speaker 4: that's an amazing stat to me.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you the numbers because I ran them
Speaker 3: between Justin Fields and Tyson Bagent. Justin Fields, one out
Speaker 3: of eight dropbacks he dropped back to pass, he got sacked.
Speaker 3: Tyson Bagent won every twenty nine one every twenty nine,
Speaker 3: So twenty nine times he'll drop back and he'll only
Speaker 3: get sacked once. That is an an incredible statistic.
Speaker 5: That is that really is?
Speaker 2: Lastly, before we wrap things up, I was listening to
Speaker 2: Solomon Wilcotts on Sirius XM in the morning this morning
Speaker 2: and it was an interesting discussion that I never would
Speaker 2: have considered. They were talking about obviously, training camp is different.
Speaker 2: There's not as much practice time and pads, and that
Speaker 2: has a big factor in the play calling. And they
Speaker 2: brought up a specific play which I think is one
Speaker 2: of the most deadliest to a defense but one of
Speaker 2: the most productive for an offense if they get it right,
Speaker 2: and that's the screenplay. And they indicated, Jim and Tom,
Speaker 2: that some coaches have taken some plays out of the
Speaker 2: playbook due to the lack of practice time it takes
Speaker 2: to perfect it, which is shocking. And one of them
Speaker 2: is the screenplay. And they indicated that even Andy Reid
Speaker 2: has reduced his percentage of screens because it's a function
Speaker 2: of timing obviously in rhythm and the absolute repetitiveness of
Speaker 2: making this thing happen to beat a defense.
Speaker 5: Does that shock.
Speaker 2: Both of you that that's a statement that coaches are
Speaker 2: taking plays out of the playbook because of a lack
Speaker 2: of time together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well to me, that's concerning because one of
Speaker 3: the best ways to stop pressure defensively from you know,
Speaker 3: pressure or pressuring defense is a screenplay. But you're right,
Speaker 3: it takes a lot of timing, a lot of rhythm.
Speaker 3: It takes extra practice time to get that timing that
Speaker 3: you need because the offensive lineman have to show pass
Speaker 3: and then they got to get up field to make
Speaker 3: all the blocks that are necessary. So it's normally a
Speaker 3: two second count and to get all five guys to
Speaker 3: marry up to do that. And then for the running
Speaker 3: back who's now once he catches the ball, it's he
Speaker 3: makes a go call, you know, to let everybody know, hey,
Speaker 3: I've got the ball, we're going here. And so I
Speaker 3: can see why coaches do do that because you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of the NFL now because
Speaker 3: you got Thursday games and sometimes you're not even practicing.
Speaker 3: You know, if you played a game on Sunday and
Speaker 3: you want to be able to be effective in what
Speaker 3: you do, and if some things take more time, you're
Speaker 3: probably not going to call those plays just because it's
Speaker 3: a short window between two games.
Speaker 4: You know, A screen is one of my favorite plays
Speaker 4: in football, but I to me, I think the the
Speaker 4: RPO has taken as much time to develop a real
Speaker 4: RPO that a screen has because you think of how
Speaker 4: many different reads you have on an RPO for everybody
Speaker 4: to get it right, whether it's a red buy an
Speaker 4: offensive lineman, buy a quarterback, buy a running back, all
Speaker 4: these different scenarios that you can face, the way different
Speaker 4: defenses play it that you have to run an RPO
Speaker 4: probably fifty to sixty times per RPO to get it
Speaker 4: timed up perfectly under every circumstance you could possibly see
Speaker 4: within an instance time on in a game day.
Speaker 2: Play crazy the dominoes that fall in the National Football
Speaker 2: League with every adjustment that comes down the road.
Speaker 5: All right, that's going to do it for us. Fellas,
Speaker 5: you guys have a week.
Speaker 2: We're off next week, Fourth of July week, Tom, you
Speaker 2: can take your holiday.
Speaker 5: No show next week. We'll be back.
Speaker 2: As we get right up butted up against the start
Speaker 2: of training camp.
Speaker 4: We can't just get together and talk to mongst ourselves
Speaker 4: for an hour.
Speaker 5: Hey, phone rings both ways, right.
Speaker 3: Jim, that's right, buddy, So we'll keep in touch. Have
Speaker 3: a good fourth of July.
Speaker 5: Same to you, guys.
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