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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stradio Lab and intellectual podcast about straight culture

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Speaker 1: and also a stupid podcast about nothing. Don't say that,

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Speaker 1: it's just true. I don't want to lie to our listeners.

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Speaker 1: I'm George Severe and I'm Sam Taggart and this is

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Speaker 1: stradiol podcast starts now, what's up everybody, and welcome to Stradiolus.

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Speaker 1: Say good morning, and can we say good morning? Good

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Speaker 1: morning Baltimore. George is on one today. He is so

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Speaker 1: determined to make morning recordings a success. Well, you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: I have complained recently about how many of our recordings

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Speaker 1: have been in the evenings, and I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we used to record a lot during the day on

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Speaker 1: weekends back when we were, um, you know, just an

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Speaker 1: amateur d I Y podcast. You know, we would record

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Speaker 1: with mikes we made ourselves. We actually hacked the mics

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Speaker 1: and made them. Are so back in the seven in

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Speaker 1: the seventh Pirate Radio, you know, we were shut down

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Speaker 1: by the government many times. Um, we were both arrested,

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Speaker 1: in fact, for spreading propaganda. And and then I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, and today we're recording at noon on a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I was like, maybe I've been romanticizing the idea of

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Speaker 1: recording at this time on weekends, and I'll get there

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Speaker 1: and it'll be just as I'll be just as exhausted,

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Speaker 1: I'll be just as tired. Let me tell you something

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Speaker 1: not the case. I have never felt better my second

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Speaker 1: cup of coffee, I've had my morning yogurt. I am

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Speaker 1: hydrated because I do have also a glass of water

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Speaker 1: next to me. I have come prepared with things I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about. Oh my god, I finished writing

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Speaker 1: straight Shooters literally fifteen minutes before recording, rather than the

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Speaker 1: usual thirty seconds before. Sam. I think you look great,

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Speaker 1: sound great, and I have never been more grateful to

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Speaker 1: be your friend and co worker. You are doing toxic

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Speaker 1: positivity at me, and it's really upsetting. It's like you're

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Speaker 1: not acknowledging the fact that, like this is a Saturday's

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Speaker 1: actually like quite difficult to force yourself out of bed.

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Speaker 1: It's not wrong, you know, it's I was having actually

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Speaker 1: the most rainy, cozy day and I had to clock

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Speaker 1: into my grueling podcast job. My children, of which there

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Speaker 1: are many, are in the other room crying. They're saying,

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Speaker 1: why can't you be a father to me today? On

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Speaker 1: the one day they haven't been fed in days. You

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Speaker 1: haven't been days. And I said, well, mommy's got a pod,

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Speaker 1: and George demanded we do it on a Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: Your favorite your your favorite day because of the day

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Speaker 1: you get to eat. Sorry, what are you gonna do? Unionize?

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Speaker 1: There's one of you want of me a babe. Damn,

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Speaker 1: that's so true. If I say we're working a weekend,

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Speaker 1: we're working on a weekend. It's really tough. Wow, so funny,

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Speaker 1: I am. Are you hungover? You're embarrassed. This is a

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Speaker 1: hypo violation. This is you're not allowed to just ask

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Speaker 1: someone if they're hungover. Oh I can um, I would say,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little hungover. Yeah, it's not crippling. I would

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Speaker 1: have slept a little longer if I didn't have a podcast.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I had the most adult night last night.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's why I also feel. You love that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all love that. What did you do?

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Speaker 1: What did you do? Well? Yes, I mean to have

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Speaker 1: an adult night is actually one of the most fulfilling

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Speaker 1: things that can possibly happen, more so than I would

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Speaker 1: say professional success is to just like go to a dinner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell me about your adult night. So I went to

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Speaker 1: a Shabbat dinner at my at my friends house. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I won't docks them because you know who knows in

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Speaker 1: this day and age, But it is a lesbian couple

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Speaker 1: with two children. Huge you're dosing them not. People are

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Speaker 1: googling which lesbian couples have two children? And Jewish Jewish

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Speaker 1: Jewish lesbian couple Jewish lesbian children in Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: And you know, we were like playing with the kids,

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Speaker 1: and there was like, you know, just kind of like

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Speaker 1: you know, that that kind of conversation where it's like

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Speaker 1: it's seamlessly transitions from talking about television to talk about politics,

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Speaker 1: to talking about you know, real estate, to talk you know,

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Speaker 1: how New York? What what what New York is like

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Speaker 1: these days? Anyone see any any plays recently? Anyone see

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Speaker 1: movies recently? And at one point, one of their kids

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Speaker 1: say gay. I thought was the sweetest thing. Anyway. Um,

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Speaker 1: episode of Sharon Horgan's new show Bad Sisters. I have

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Speaker 1: to say that everyone saying gay sounds like it sounds

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Speaker 1: like you were in like a holiday movie like yeah,

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Speaker 1: two lesbian modems back together. And it's like branding itself

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Speaker 1: as groundbreaking constantly. Yeah, and guess what in this case,

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Speaker 1: stories in order to um. I've actually been having sort

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Speaker 1: it's back. Yeah, we're going in different directions interesting. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've actually been to like multiple sort of spur of

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Speaker 1: like we actually met over the summer, but we don't

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Speaker 1: know each other that well, what do you do? And

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Speaker 1: it's actually huge and I've never felt more alive. I

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Speaker 1: feel like time is option anal and I feel like, um,

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Speaker 1: first of all, whoa time is optional is groundbreaking? Time

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Speaker 1: is actually optional and you can opt in or opt out.

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Speaker 1: And I'm deciding to opt out right now. Sam, this

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Speaker 1: is like truly the topic of a of an advice

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Speaker 1: management book time is optional, or it could be a

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Speaker 1: more um, you know, a meditation on the concept of time,

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Speaker 1: and it's more literary, and it sells fewer copies for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not a success. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe it gets reviewed in the London Review

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Speaker 1: of Books. Maybe, you know, you get some people on

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about it. That's pretty I'm sure they're gonna

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Speaker 1: hate it, they're gonna they're gonna be cruel, but they're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about it. Yeah, It's there's a it's

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Speaker 1: complicated because there's people, um look negatively on people who

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Speaker 1: refuse to grow up. It's sort of a classic trope

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Speaker 1: of film and TV even totally and yet I'm doing

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Speaker 1: it and it's beautiful. Well, to push back on this

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Speaker 1: you are investing in your long term relationship, you are

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Speaker 1: taking care of yourself. Uh, you know, by by by

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Speaker 1: working out, by eating well. Sure. And so then when

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Speaker 1: you have that infrastructure, sure you can go to a

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Speaker 1: need you need to have the infrastructure before you're going

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Speaker 1: to these parties. Yeah, so when people you need to

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Speaker 1: know who you are. Otherwise you will lose yourself immediately

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Speaker 1: upon entering a party. Being again and is not for

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Speaker 1: the faint of heart. If you are not mentally really strong,

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Speaker 1: you will collapse under the pressure. Well, you know what

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Speaker 1: they say, youth is wasted on the young, which is

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Speaker 1: actually I think about this all the time in terms

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Speaker 1: I took classes now, I would actually pay attention to

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Speaker 1: do the reading. Like, I actually think there could be

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Speaker 1: kind of a movement where, let's say, from the ages

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Speaker 1: and now I'm going back into my twenties with your

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Speaker 1: Your twenties are a gap. Time is optional and your

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Speaker 1: M Unfortunately, that's genius. I think you've actually nailed something.

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Speaker 1: better time than now. Actually, I'm opting into time starting

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Speaker 1: I have to say no offense to other people that

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Speaker 1: like seeing someone knew you hadn't seen and being like,

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Speaker 1: all right, people are still out there doing comedy. No,

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Speaker 1: love if someone was absolutely iconic and legendary and to slay.

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Speaker 1: tired of um, you know, someone performing and me sitting

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Speaker 1: aguilarra way in months. To be honest, I've been sitting

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Speaker 1: it around. By being sowing. It's having an effect on

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Speaker 1: me professionally because like my contract is up at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year, and like, you know, all the

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Speaker 1: other judges like Christina Aguilera might like Cyrus and keep

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Speaker 1: whoever else. Um, you know, they're all they have teams,

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Speaker 1: like they have fully like twelve people each. I haven't

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Speaker 1: the perfect person. Well, I thank god they're here and

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Speaker 1: of clapp in a mature adult way for Asha Ward. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's crazy. You guys give me butterflies

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Speaker 1: this early in the morning. Yeah, it's like noon, Asha,

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Speaker 1: though we heard you've already cleaned your room today. I did.

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Speaker 1: I gotta ask, what time did you get up? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Probably okay, so taste, that's really respectful. Yeah, tennant Tenney

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Speaker 1: this podcast had segments. Yeah. Yeah, it's one of our

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Speaker 1: podcasts biggest secrets is that actually we have segments. We

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Speaker 1: pretend like we're sort of this alternative, free flowing podcast

425
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Speaker 1: that doesn't have any rules, and then every week around

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Speaker 1: that twenty five minute mark, we do a segment. Yeah,

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00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: there's segments, yeah, exactly. And then and then suddenly, you know,

428
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Speaker 1: we're at the Republican National Convention, so there are rules suddenly,

429
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Speaker 1: you know, and culture speaking next. It's toxic, it's militaristic,

430
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Speaker 1: and we're funded by the military, which part of what's all.

431
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: You know what, we're not going to apologize for it.

432
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: You get your money where you get your money, exactly,

433
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: it's not illegal to make a living. Um so, Asha,

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Speaker 1: I kind of like want to get into our topic.

435
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Speaker 1: So we were kind of brainstorming when we got on

436
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: the zoom and we were like, what can what how

437
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: can we pull from your life, from your life experiences

438
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: and and find something that is straight. And then you

439
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: mentioned something that happened to you recently and I was like,

440
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Speaker 1: oh rudeness. Yeah, so I would love to kind of know, yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: like what what what brought that to mind? What was

442
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Speaker 1: that experience like for you? How are you? I'm good,

443
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: it's just you know when you know when yeah, I

444
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: was having such a good day. And then just a

445
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Speaker 1: lady Okay, So I work at a pediatric dentistry, right,

446
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: and we get super busy after school because everybody wants

447
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: to bring your kids to them this after school. And

448
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: then this lady comes in with this kid and we're

449
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: a little bit backed up, not gonna lie, so they

450
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: have to wait maybe ten minutes, which is not back

451
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: with the dentist, but my dnnis has like no wait times.

452
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: And then they go in and then she's like, oh,

453
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: he needs to have his tooth pulled, but he needs

454
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Speaker 1: to have it today because because we need we need

455
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: that done today because we can't come back. And we're

456
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: like okay, but you have to wait for a little bit.

457
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: And then they're waiting for maybe an hour, which I'm like, yeah,

458
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: that's a long time, but you you're making demands. She

459
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: like came up to the desk and was like, can

460
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Speaker 1: you ask them? And I was like, yeah, sure, I'll ask,

461
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: but there's just like people in the chairs, and so

462
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm asking and then one of the assistants comes out

463
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: and she's like, so, do you guys hate us? She's like,

464
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys hate us, Like is there

465
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: something we did to you? And she's like no, I

466
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: feel like like you guys hate us. And I'm like

467
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm like sitting there and I definitely laughed. I definitely laughed.

468
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: And then she like darts hit me and she's like

469
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Speaker 1: you should not be laughing at your patients. And then um, yeah.

470
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: Then they went to the back and she was They

471
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Speaker 1: told me she was talking that ship about me, and

472
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: that's pretty much it, damn. But that happens like every

473
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Speaker 1: single day there. And I work. I work at the

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Speaker 1: pediatric dentistry in Williamsburg, so that's what I'm kind of

475
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: dealing with it with that, you know it would you

476
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Speaker 1: say it's kind of like, uh, you know hipster like

477
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: overgrown hipsters who then had kids. No, it's like it's

478
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: like it's like fucking tech. It's like tech bros and

479
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: their wives and like they're like Lulu Lemon. It's second

480
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: generation Williamsburg. Yes, yes, yes, it's the people that oh wow,

481
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: it's like Murray Hill. It's the people with money. Yes, wow. Yeah,

482
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: but I think that's a trap, that's a that's a

483
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: street ty. I'm like, no one gay that comes in

484
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: there has ever been mean or rude to me. Yeah. Well,

485
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: it's the kind of the dominant. It's basically not I

486
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: know it's cliche to to talk about like customer service,

487
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, can I speak to the manager that kind

488
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: of thing, but that is basically it is a It

489
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: is a way of life where like whenever anyone is

490
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: in any capacity in a customer service role, it's this

491
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: like mentality of like, well they have to be dominated.

492
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: I know. Right, there's something sick in the brain of

493
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: the of the there's something and I don't know Stanford

494
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: prison experience, there's a there's definitely studies about that. Uh,

495
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: you know. Even just last night, I was waiting to

496
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: um to pick up a pizza from a restaurant, a

497
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: fancy pizza restaurant, and people kept coming up and they

498
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: kept being like, yeah, it's like a two hour await,

499
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: and this kept happening, and uh, finally this one family

500
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Speaker 1: of five came up and they're like, yep, four people

501
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: in a stroller and we called about a half hour ago,

502
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, it's like a two hour away

503
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, we called a half hour ago.

504
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: And then they were like, yeah, we don't do reservations

505
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: over the phone. And he was like yeah, I just

506
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: don't understand because I called and he was like I'm sorry, sir,

507
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: we don't do reservations over the phone. You can wait

508
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: two hours. And I was like this is a nightmare

509
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: and such a And then the strangest part about it

510
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: was then like the wife was like, Babe, it's fine, Babe,

511
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: it's fine, and I was like, oh no, this is

512
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: so dark. I have to say, I that is such

513
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: a particular dynamic, and you kind of realize that for

514
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: a lot of straight couples, that's just like their life

515
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: is like the guy being an asshole constantly and then

516
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: the women being like it's okay, Like it's fine, we

517
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: can go next door. I don't mind him like apologizing

518
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: both to him and for him at every turn. Yeah,

519
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: it's rough, but but I will say in this case,

520
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: it seems like it was a woman that it was

521
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: flip flopped and the guy that the dad wasn't apologizing,

522
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 1: but he was like not really having anything to do

523
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: with it. It was just standing. But it's like whatever, Well,

524
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, you put all those Lulu Lemon leggings and

525
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: you do actually become the man exactly. Yeah, I'm trying

526
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: to figure out like what happens. Like, I do think

527
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: there's something about children and feeling such a lack of

528
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: control that when there is someone that legally has to

529
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: serve you or work for you, you like dig into

530
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: it and you're like if it's not going your way,

531
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: you're like, but you have to. I feel like there's

532
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: just something in the in the brain that where people

533
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: will if they have an opportunity to exercise power, they

534
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: will do it. Yes, I've witnessed this with bus drivers.

535
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: I've witnessed it with everything. People who are working ct

536
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: A and they're like, oh, just let just let me,

537
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: just let There's like an old lady trying to get

538
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: on the bus for free, and this guy was like,

539
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: why should I let you on my bus? I'm like,

540
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: just let her on the bus. Yeah. It's like the

541
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: people that probably come to your office or like, let's

542
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: say someone's like a VP of marketing. Right, so at

543
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: work she is answering to like the CEO, and the

544
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: CEO has so much power over her, and now she

545
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: is in the space where she clearly has more power

546
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: than you, and she is like, well, finally I can

547
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: be a bit yeah, exactly at psychology. Psychology, so the

548
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: gay versus straight element of this. I do think gay

549
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: people have a reputation for being rude. Yeah, gay men specifically,

550
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: I think they have a sort of the reputation precedes

551
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: them of being um. But I do think in a

552
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: place of work is different. It's different than being bitchy socially,

553
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: which I'm like, even that can be kind of like fun, spicy,

554
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: but and then there's a difference between being a bit

555
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: where it's like in a in a place of business, Yeah,

556
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: and specifically to to someone who works, like who works

557
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: in a front facing role, like in a customer facing role.

558
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: So wait, what are you doing at this thenal place? Like,

559
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm just your receptionist. I don't even like, I don't

560
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: know I really be in that job, like really checked out.

561
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm like they're on YouTube and stuff. I mean, that's

562
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: that's a classic person. That's that's like, you know, yeah,

563
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: this woman like woke me up out of a out

564
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: of a dazed harass me. It's still boring. I don't

565
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: even have anything. That job is just still boring. I

566
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: don't know how did when when did you start working there?

567
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: How long you been there? November? I've been there for

568
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: a long ast time. When they interviewed you, were they like,

569
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: so tell me about your experience with teeth or was

570
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: it just like here, we really have to love teeth.

571
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: They really like that I worked with kids before, which

572
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: is crazy because I've never I never talked to or

573
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: even see the kids at the dentistry because the counter

574
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: simply too high. But yeah, I was an improv teacher

575
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: and a used ever camp like right before I had

576
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: this job. That's so cute. So they like that I

577
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: was working with kids. Yeah, I mean it must be

578
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: something to see kids basically on the worst day of

579
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: their lives, which is when they have to go to

580
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: the dentist. Yeah, some kids really like it. Really, it's

581
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: not the kids that are the issues. It's the parents

582
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: that's what's happening. Kids are still really lovely at that

583
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: age where it's like the world hasn't gotten to them

584
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: and their parents personalities having gotten to them yet, but

585
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: the parents be fucking fucked up. Yeah, Like New York

586
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: City as a place to have children does seem like

587
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: I can see how quickly one would lose their mind,

588
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: Like I think like I would go crazy in like,

589
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: uh four days. And it's crazy because we see kids

590
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: of all ages, so you can see the age where

591
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: it really starts taking effect. It's like around thirteen fourteen,

592
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: they start like holding to their society that there is

593
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: totally being like, maybe I can try being rude, like

594
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: and then the parents are like, oh my god, baby's

595
00:33:54,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: first representatives, baby's first outburst in public, baby's first, baby's

596
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: first like, bitch, you look at someone, You're just doing

597
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: their job. Oh the baby didn't tip, Yeah, baby's first,

598
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: no tip, baby's first bad babies first. Let me talk

599
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: to the manager. Have you guys ever been rude to

600
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: a customer service representative. This is a really good question,

601
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: I think accidentally, probably because I'd be in moods. I

602
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: think probably I'm trying to think, and that's why I'm

603
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: like it is so it's so gray, no black and white.

604
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: But I'm like, yeah, it could have been just and

605
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: like so many people are just having bad days, and

606
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, how many times have that? Has that been me?

607
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: But I've never been like crazy with it? Have been

608
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: crazy with it? I have done. I mean, sometimes you

609
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: really are just having the worst day and you're just

610
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: like not paying attention or I've had it happened where

611
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: like someone's like, Hi, how how's it going, and then I,

612
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, not really paying attention, immediately go back with

613
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: like I'll have an Americano yeah, and and then and

614
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: then I kind of you like realize what you've done.

615
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: And then and then sometimes I'll try to make a

616
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: bit of it and be like first of all, hello,

617
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, and they're like, yeah, I didn't hear either,

618
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: like this isn't like whatever we can do this transaction,

619
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: but yeah, or like sometimes if I am piste off,

620
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: especially if it's like someone on the phone net for

621
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: a T and T or something. Then I'll like, they'll

622
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: take there, They'll bring me to the point where I

623
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: do say something slightly rude and then immediately feel bad,

624
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: and then I'm like and then I overcompense me by

625
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: being like, listen, I know whether I think your fault,

626
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: like you're literally just doing your job, like we're both

627
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: humans in this crazy planet we call Earth. I do.

628
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: I think I've never been rude to someone in person,

629
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: but I have definitely. I almost like, as a rule,

630
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm rude on the phone. Really yeah, I don't know why.

631
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm like something about it. It's so like bureaucratic and

632
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: like like they reward bad behavior, like the only way

633
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: to actually get what you want is to be rude

634
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: on the phone, especially if it's like one of those

635
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: things where it's like you have to jump through so

636
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: many hoops just to talk to a person and they're like,

637
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: let me transfer you, and you're like no, like I've

638
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: been transferred four times, Like you're gonna You're gonna fix

639
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: this for me now? Wait, I actually okay, can I

640
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: say something that's going to bring this back to something

641
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: we're talking about earlier. So basically what we're saying is

642
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: that the farther away you are from in person, the

643
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: more rude you are. So it's just from the phone

644
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: you are more rude. I would argue that over email

645
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: you can be even more rude because you can truly

646
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: be like fuck you, and then of course, you know,

647
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: expand that to the whole world. That's why mass media

648
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: is even worse. But that's why mass media is the

649
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: highest evil, because you are like as as far away

650
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: as far away from person to personage you can possibly be.

651
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: So it's like the farther away you are from face

652
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: to face, the more rude you are. And that's why

653
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: I literally like Tucker Carlson is the way he is,

654
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we need to ban media. We got

655
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: to the bottom of it. We got to the bottom

656
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: of it. The industry we're all in and then now

657
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: and then it's influencing the way we act on a

658
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: small level, which is then influencing the way we act

659
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: on a larger mass media level. Soilical it's all. And

660
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: you know what, You're absolutely right. It's like we're now

661
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: all acting like real housewives face to face because we're like, well,

662
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: that's what people do on the TV. Media is a virus.

663
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: In fact, I literally on Fire Island this summer. Like

664
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: there was this like running joke between some people where

665
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: they were like, we're being the housewives, and I was like,

666
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: you're actually about to fight, Like this is turning into

667
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: a fight. Yeah, Or like when you're watching uh something,

668
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: I'll see videos on Twitter of like someone going crazy

669
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: to McDonald's and you're like, damn, what if I did that.

670
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, there are sometimes where it like comes to

671
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: you and you're like it's bubbling up. I could do it,

672
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, they faced little to no consequence. Yeah,

673
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: I'll show you're literally pointing out to bring it back

674
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: to the other thing. I saw a video of someone

675
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: going crazy to McDonald's, and in the same way that

676
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: American Pie changed my view of women for an afternoon,

677
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: I have seen McDonald's differently ever since, and I actually

678
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: see it as a place of traumat Yes, oh my god,

679
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: I saw that too. I was like, oh my god,

680
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even know you could just do that. And

681
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: then they did. You see the interview with the guy

682
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: after they found him, and he's not he's chilling, like

683
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: like happened to him? Who found him? Was it like

684
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: the local news or was it just like a guy. Yeah.

685
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: The local news interviewed him. He's like, yeah, I started

686
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: smashing because I wanted to show people that you can't

687
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: just like beat me up. He's like, I smashed with

688
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: me Donald's. Oh my god, that video was terrified, chilling. Damn.

689
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: He's in a better mood than we are. I mean

690
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: he wakes up at ten am every morning without no

691
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: arm Wow, George, have you seen this video? No. I

692
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: was trying to kind of let you guys have this moment.

693
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: I really you gotta see it. It's on there on

694
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: the line. All right, Okay, I will I'm not gonna

695
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: make I'm not gonna make you guys explain it to

696
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: me on air. You know, last night when we were

697
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: coming when I was coming home, or in fact, when

698
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: Matthew was coming home, there was a McDonald's back someone

699
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: had ordered like door dash McDonald's, and it was just

700
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: like a fresh bag of McDonald's in the entryway, and

701
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if we trying to grow.

702
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: I've had thoughts like that before. That's a dilemma. Yeah,

703
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: we did. We did it for the record, but but

704
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: there's a part of do you ever think of like how.

705
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: I mean, this is how just like a certain amount

706
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: of rule breaking is okay because it's like built into

707
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: the system. Yeah, you're like, yeah, I can, I can

708
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: take this mcdonal. It was back now, and then someone

709
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: will do something bad to me another time, and it

710
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: all kind of even sound. Yeah. I don't know. No,

711
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: I think I didn't do it. If there was, if

712
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: I was in a particular mood, I would have done that. Yeah,

713
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: but I would also be expecting that to come back

714
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: to me some at some point down the line, exactly.

715
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I really do essentially believe in karma. Yeah,

716
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I did too. Do you want to know something crazy

717
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: that happened to me. I was walking home from this

718
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: terrible job one day. This was actually, I think the

719
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: same week. This will happen the same week, you know.

720
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: Like one of those chalkboard things that coffee shops have.

721
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: I was walking the past one. That's my puppy, um.

722
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: I was walking past one and there was like a

723
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: thick ass, heavy ass American Express credit card just sitting

724
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: on it, and my body grabbed it before I even

725
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: knew what was going on, and I put in my

726
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: pocket and then I saw it. I was like, oh,

727
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: my god, Oh my gonna and I started texting everybody

728
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: I knew. It was like, oh my god, what do

729
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: I do? What do I do? What it? I like?

730
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: I like LinkedIn the owner trying to because I was

731
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: going to return it. I tried to go into the

732
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: store that it came out of, but no one was

733
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: in there. Um, And then I was like, oh my god,

734
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: what I do. I was like, I wonder if it works.

735
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: I wonder if it works. So that I did use

736
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: it to get on the train. Well, here's the question

737
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: that when you looked the person up on LinkedIn, because

738
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: to me, my instant is like, okay, if they're is CEO,

739
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm using they had like uh, they had a good job.

740
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: They had a good job. Yeah, I looked him up

741
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: on LinkedIn. I was like, all right, you're not hearing right,

742
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: because here's the other thing is like, what's gonna happen

743
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: is they're going to get that money back anyway, even

744
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: if you go on a shopping spree like the report

745
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: their card sold and get it back anyway. So it

746
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: really so basically I'm sorry, but like you're stealing from

747
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: American Express, Yeah, which is activism. I like surveyed my

748
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: I asked my brother because he's like the resident. My

749
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: brother the way my brother has like a new phone,

750
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: we have like the same plan. But I still like

751
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: an iPhone six? And I was like, how did you

752
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: get that? He was like, I found it at Buffalo

753
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: Wild Wings. He's like someone left their phone on the

754
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: table at Buffalo Wild Wings and now I've an iPhone

755
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: like six or whatever. He's like the residents scammera. So

756
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I was like texting him and I was like, so

757
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: what should I do with it? He was like I

758
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: personally would just go to the store. Damn now, but

759
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: I threw it away. Wow, that's very ethical of you. Yeah,

760
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: did the karma come back? Did somebody give you something

761
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: big later on? Because you were good? No, I don't think.

762
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, it doeshining could happen. I was

763
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: almost bad with it. I had a really I had

764
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: a dilemma. But I was like, also, just because I'm

765
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: like I will I will spend this. I'll do this

766
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: just because I hate Williamsburg. Yeah. Yeah. Respect Now I'm like,

767
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: have I ever stolen anything? Let's think does that kind

768
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: of stealing? We were like I remember one time, like

769
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: my we were at a department store and my sister.

770
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: My sister was like truly like a baby like and

771
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: she just like took a lipstick, and my mom found

772
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: it when we had already gotten home and actually went

773
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: back and returned it to the department store, which I'd

774
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: say I would not have done if my baby like

775
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: accidentally took a lipstick, I would have been like, well,

776
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: let's not let that happen again. But I just like

777
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: distinctly remember that being something she did and being like,

778
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: oh wow, stealing is like really mad, like you really

779
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: can't do it. Yeah, one time, when I was like

780
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: maybe like six or seven, I think I stole a

781
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: pog like um, nineties kids, no, like the you know

782
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: what those things were? Um, I actually don't. I'm sorry, Okay,

783
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: that's okay. They were a popular thing in the nineties

784
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: for a moment um, and I stole one from a

785
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: store and I was racked with so much guilt when

786
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: I got home. It was but I didn't know what

787
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: to do about it because I couldn't just take it

788
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: back to the store. I was seven, but yeah, I

789
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: knew I was stealing and I felt bad. So if

790
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: you're at that store out there and this is my

791
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: public apology. I gotta be honest. I don't think I

792
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: ever feel bad for stealing from a store, but I

793
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: do feel bad. I don't I feel I feel I

794
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: feel bad about stealing from like an individual. Yes, I

795
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: mean it's like the American Express thing. It's like Nope,

796
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: ethically speaking, morally speaking, there is nothing wrong with stealing

797
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: from American Express. If anything, the reason why I'm less

798
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: likely to do it is because of my own like neuroses,

799
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: rather than any kind of like larger moral argument, like

800
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to be put in a place where

801
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: there is a chance I would get caught. It's not

802
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: that I feel bad about American Express. If you could

803
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: steal from any person, who would it be? And why

804
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: i'd steal from that lady? I'd still from that lady.

805
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: I got to a house, and I'll take the things

806
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: that are not even valuable. I just know she likes. Yeah,

807
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: but it's like emotional it's like emotional work. You're like,

808
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: what has the highest sentimental value? Here? Oh, your kids,

809
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: little drawing. I'll go to your house and steal all

810
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: your picture frames, lady. Yeah, that's actually like to go

811
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: into someone's house and steal picture frames and kids drawings

812
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: and should be one of the cruelest things you could

813
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: possibly do. Did her throwing a fit help? Did she

814
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: get her kid in the dentist chair faster? Yeah? Yeah.

815
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: Have you ever talked back to someone being rude and

816
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: like laid down the law? I think usually that's what

817
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: I do. I don't know. I'm not well. I haven't

818
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: usually when well, chances are if someone someone Sometimes people

819
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: will call the dentists and being crazy and I'm like,

820
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: I can already hear it in your voice. We don't

821
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: take your insurance, like we don't take your insurt. It

822
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: was mostly like that that. I'll just ask them, I'm sorry,

823
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: are you gonna be using insurance with us? They'll be

824
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: like yeah, and I'm like, oh sorry, we don't take it. Wow,

825
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Well, and that way you do have That's

826
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: the thing is like they think they have power over you,

827
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: but in a much more material way, you do have

828
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: power over there. And when people are being read, I'm like, okay,

829
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you, You're gonna I'm gonna make you

830
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: have the most inconvenient They don't get that. Somehow they

831
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: think that their actions don't have consequences. I know. But

832
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: and this is the thing with power that you're saying,

833
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: it's like they don't even they're so blinded by the

834
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: temporary power they have, they don't even think far enough ahead.

835
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: We're like, you are literally someone in charge of their appointment. Also,

836
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, literally, if I were a different person with

837
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: who is crazy, I have all of your addresses and

838
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: social security numbers, like I have all of that ship

839
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: just saying if I was a different person. I think

840
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: that's so often with restaurants to like if someone's being

841
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: if you know, if someone's being rude, like people will

842
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: spit in their food, And I'm like, I don't even

843
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: have to steal your identity. All I have to do

844
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: is just forget about your social security somewhere on a

845
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: sticky note, you know what I'm saying, Just leave it somewhere. Yeah,

846
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: but that's not me, thank god, thank god. Wow, I'm

847
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: trying to think of like other like elements of rudeness

848
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: and how they're straight. I mean, I guess in a

849
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: way it's almost like a lack of not following the

850
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: social contract in some way. It's also main character syndrome. Yeah,

851
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: it is feeling like nothing bad can happen to you too,

852
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: like almost being like I can do this without consequence.

853
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I think people who tend to be super rude, or

854
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: at least I don't know, I don't know, they tend

855
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: to be people who I don't know. It's but I

856
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: guess it's both ways. There's a there's a there's like

857
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: some people who were rude because they've never been like,

858
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: they've never felt marginalized in any way until they have

859
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: this main character syndrome. And then there's people who are

860
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: rude because they have been marginalized. So it's like a

861
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: form of survival mechanism. Yeah, that's actually a very good point.

862
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: So rudeness is intersectional and beautiful. Rudeness is intersexually intersectional

863
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: and beautiful. Yeah, it is true, though, it is true

864
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: that rudeness can be a form of oppression or a

865
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: form of empowerment. I know, when you think about it,

866
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: actually I guess this, and you know what, and you

867
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: know what, when it's a form of oppression, it's like okay.

868
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: And when it's a form of empowerment, it is punished.

869
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: And that's actually why people in marginalized groups get reputations

870
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: for being rude. It's like, oh, gay guys are bitchy?

871
00:48:53,160 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: Are they? Or are they just trying to survive? This

872
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: is how we win cattiness as a survival man. Cattiness

873
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: like all these things. You're like, yeah, but have you

874
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: seen like what you know, a guy in a suit

875
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: ordering a muffin sounds like he's more catty and sassy

876
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: and bitchy than anyone else. Yeah, probably the meanest male

877
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: on earth. Yeah, he sucks. I think people in New

878
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: York are also people in New York are also just

879
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: like rude. But it's also because I've noticed I don't know,

880
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: it's maybe it's because I don't know when did you

881
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: guys move here? Ten years ago? So long ast time.

882
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of new here. I moved here in November,

883
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: and I noticed that it's just so New York is

884
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: super charged with energy. Like it's just so like everyone's

885
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: just it's like moving. It's like everything is in constant motion.

886
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: It's like even there's like it's so people can be

887
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: like fired up. So it's like, really it's easy for

888
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: things to send you over the edge here. It takes

889
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: a lot of work to maintain a sense of like

890
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: internal balance and to not have it affect you. And

891
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: you also get the sense that if you stop moving

892
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: you will be trampled. Yeah, you know, headphones are key.

893
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: You know they are. I think about this. It's like,

894
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: on the one hand, you are so right that headphones

895
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: are key, and just like literally just like looking ahead

896
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: and ignoring everything is I mean, the things we see

897
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: that like are truly like deeply scarring and you just

898
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: have to ignore them. You know. That's one thing. But

899
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: on the other hand, then you're also kind of like, well, wait,

900
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm literally like in this city, paying like an

901
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: insane amount of money to live here. I have no

902
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: savings because of that, blah blah, So I should at

903
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: least like take it in. So on the one hand,

904
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: you want to ignore everything. On the other hand, you're like, well,

905
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: you know, I have three good years left, like I

906
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: need to like take in the hustle and bustle. No,

907
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: that's true, but in the in those commuting times anytime,

908
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: like I used to be more like no headphones person,

909
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, even if I'm like walking with Misha,

910
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, can we wear headphones and just like something?

911
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: Because hey, I do I like because I like, there's

912
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: too many noises. I'm like sick of all the noise.

913
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: I need like to block it all out. You know,

914
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: I think you're kind of like I could see you soon,

915
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, having like an Upstate era, you the way

916
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: that that would not be the way that would be

917
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: forty five is scary to me. And you know it

918
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: could be beautiful, of course, but I'm afraid. I'm afraid

919
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: of it because I worry that once I have an

920
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: Upstate era, there's no coming back. There's no coming back totally.

921
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: I I worry about that with myself as well. Also,

922
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: I've decided I'm gonna I'm gonna move to Vermont. I

923
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: want to go upstate. I've never been upstate. Oh my god,

924
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: you are gonna love it, would love it. Where were

925
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: you before New York? I was in Chicago. I went

926
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: to college there. I would think Columbia College, Chicago. Ok, yeah, okay.

927
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: Do you feel like there was a brand of rudeness

928
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: in Chicago that was different than the brand of rudeness

929
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: in New York? Yeah for sure, But in Chicago it's

930
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: usually it's just like racism is a brand of rudeness. Um. Yeah,

931
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: we don't have that here. Yeah, New York is free

932
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: of that since two years ago. Um, but no, Chicago,

933
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: it's like it's way less busy. And I also had

934
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: a very chill job there. I was also like a

935
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: student and I was only working part time. So I

936
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: guess this is my first real job. But that's not

937
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: like virtual. Oh what. I graduated like right when the

938
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: pandemic was happening. So but yeah, no, Chicago, I don't know.

939
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: I guess I've never had to deal with that crazy,

940
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: that craziness, and it's just like you can breathe in Chicago. Yeah,

941
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: you can breathe there. You know that. I have never

942
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: been to Chicago really really, it's like one of the

943
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: I was about to completely say an insane statement, which

944
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: is that I was about to say it's one of

945
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: the only cities I haven't been to, an insane thing

946
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: to say. No, that's a genius thing to say. I

947
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: got it. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, it's

948
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: actually one of the only places I haven't been to know,

949
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: But I've just been, like, you know, I've been to

950
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: like a lot of major like I've been like l

951
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: A and San Francisco in New York and whatever. But

952
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: I but I know I've never been to Chicago, even

953
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: though everyone says I would love it, um and it's

954
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: such a big comedy city that it's weird that I've

955
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: never like that I've never visited. Next time we're going,

956
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: We're going to the Bean Bean Baby live from the

957
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: means you have like Chicago vibes. Thank you. I mean,

958
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: who knows, but thank you. It could be it could

959
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: be a drag well, Asha, I mean this has been

960
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: Wait are we done? Or it was my instinct to

961
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: to to go into our final segment, but actually we

962
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: don't have to. What I mean, if we're if you're there,

963
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're plotting, if we're sort of plotting

964
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: our next trip to Chicago, I think potentially we've reached

965
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: the end of the conversation. I kind of like one

966
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: of them. This is like one of the more fruitful

967
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: conversations we've had recently, Like I feel like we reached

968
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: so many conclusions. Yeah, I think, And what's great about

969
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: this episode is that it's actionable and so like you

970
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: in your own community can start um banning media and

971
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: making it illegal, and this is something that we can

972
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: all do to make the world a better place. And

973
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: we can choose to not be rude in an oppressive way,

974
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: and we can choose to be catty in a in

975
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: a self impowering way. That really is like, yeah, that

976
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: kind of bin area is so important. Yeah, And when

977
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: you see someone being rude in an empowering way, you

978
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: need to respect them and not portray them as a

979
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: bad person because then you're being rude in an oppressive way. Yeah.

980
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: And someone, if someone is being rude to you in

981
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: an oppressive way, you have to be like, I'm sorry,

982
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: you are being rude in oppressive way. And by saying

983
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: and by saying to someone's face you are being rude

984
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: in an oppressive way. You are being rude in an

985
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: empowering way. Exactly. All Right, Wow, that's feel pumped up

986
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: and I feel ready to go out there and be

987
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: routing and empowering way. So Asha, our final segment is

988
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: called Shoutouts, and this is kind of our tribute to

989
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: the radio shout at the classic straight art form if

990
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: you will. So imagine you're on the radio, you're at

991
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: your on MTV, you're on you know, uh kind of

992
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: like a Midwestern show of something um, and you are

993
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: shouting out to your squad back home something that is

994
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: making you go woo. So we are just shouting out

995
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: things that we like. Sam, do you have one? Um? Sure,

996
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: I have a go ahead. What's up everybody? WHOA? I

997
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: love my life and I just want to give a

998
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: huge shout out to the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. They have

999
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: a new album and I was listening to it last

1000
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: night at the end of the night and I was,

1001
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, I put it on just because I was like,

1002
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: what else do I put on? And then I was like, wait,

1003
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: I'm kind of loving this, and you know, I was,

1004
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the night. I don't

1005
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: know if I even heard it all, but when I

1006
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: was paying attention, I was like, this is enjoyable. And

1007
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: when a band is around for a long time, it's

1008
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: kind of like you should probably just give up. Like

1009
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: let's be honest, like bands don't last, um in a

1010
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: good way generally, because it's that's just not how it works,

1011
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: and that's powerful and beautiful and we all die and

1012
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: death comes for us ault. But I do believe that

1013
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: Karen Oh is cool forever and I love the Yeah

1014
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah Yeahs. Who um Wow. Mine is also music related

1015
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: love that go off. What's up my little munchkins out

1016
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: there listening to the show. I want to get a

1017
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: quick shout out to Empress of Oh do you know

1018
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: Empress sound okay? I so, I've been a fan of

1019
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: Empress of for for years. I remember once I saw her,

1020
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: probably like in New York. She was an absolute slave.

1021
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: She was so good live. She puts on such a

1022
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: great show. She's so talented and incredible songwriter, a real

1023
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: kind of like self made uh story, she like does

1024
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: everything herself such great lyricism. And I saw her. My

1025
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: friend Milana and I went to see Carly ray Jepson

1026
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: recently an Empress I was opening, and the way no

1027
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: one in the fucking audience was giving her any respect

1028
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: or carried in the least made me so violently up sound.

1029
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: I was like, you fucking like basic gaze, think you

1030
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: are that you can just be on your phone while

1031
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: this woman is doing like, I'm sorry, better work than

1032
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: Carly ray Jebson, don't don't tear someone listen. I have

1033
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: a car. I'm a jet, I'm a jet friend for life,

1034
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: but I'm calling it like I see it like. I

1035
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: was so upset, and I was like and there was

1036
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: no way I mean, the only way I could kind

1037
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: of fight back against that would be to like be

1038
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: like kind of dancing around myself, But then that would

1039
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: almost draw more attention to the fact that no one

1040
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: else is doing it, and would almost be like done

1041
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: like a mocking way. So I just actually I want

1042
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to Emperors Up specifically because

1043
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: she's truly like, no, no, missus, she's so good, and

1044
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: also honestly to the concept of being respectful to an

1045
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: opener when you go to a concert, because for them

1046
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: this is a big deal and maybe and maybe you'll

1047
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: learn something and maybe one day you'll be opening the

1048
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: show and you'll wish people were respecting you exactly in

1049
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: this world, we're all just about to open for somebody.

1050
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 1: It really like, yeah, it makes me so um yeah,

1051
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Speaker 1: it's crazy. I mean, it's also how I felt when

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Speaker 1: Jenny Lewis had to open for Harry's style. Does that

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Speaker 1: mean the disrespect brother? Anyway, Whenever you're ready for me,

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Speaker 1: I guess shout out. There's this. I buy weed from

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Speaker 1: this bodega by my house and they give me a

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Speaker 1: punch card. They give me a punch card, so at

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Speaker 1: the end of it, I get a free eight and

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Speaker 1: that's awesome to shout out. Then there's also another bodega

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Speaker 1: by my house where it's like they'll accept whatever money

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Speaker 1: I have on that day, So shout up, shout out.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're describing really like a Greek village scenario

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Speaker 1: with that, it's we are really going back. Yeah, they'll

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Speaker 1: be like, this is seven dollars. I'm like I have fives,

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Speaker 1: and like that's fine. Shout out everybody who complimented my

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Speaker 1: outfit yesterday. I appreciate that. Um yeah, yeah, wow, Well

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Speaker 1: this has been an absolute delight. We are so happy

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Speaker 1: you could join us. Yeah, thanks so much for doing really,

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Speaker 1: thank you. The lessons the lessons of this of this

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Speaker 1: episode will be felt worldwide. Yeah, and if any dissenters

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Speaker 1: don't agree with it, well we'll cut out their tongues

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Speaker 1: and flog them and plug them in town square. Yeah yeah, alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: go out there and be rooted an empowering way. Bye

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Speaker 1: bye bye Boost Podcast