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Speaker 1: Florian Podcast, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that booth fro.

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Speaker 2: Next big job there, Cooktufia, pret Fern, rock up suck.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Here we go again. Did they ask for long goo

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Speaker 4: off the top of the show? Is that what the

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Speaker 4: DraftKings Network is asking for? Great to be back in

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Speaker 4: your lives. Monday June twenty six, twenty twenty three at

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Speaker 4: is episode four eighteen of the Attic Imploring podcast presented

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Speaker 4: by DraftKings wherever you may be listening to quote the

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Speaker 4: great Colin Cowhard, thanks for making us a part of

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Speaker 4: your day, and of course, on the video side, live

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Speaker 4: on the DraftKings Network, on the DraftKings YouTube channel, cliffs Clips,

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Speaker 4: of course on the Anti Florian podcast channel. So, Ray Longo,

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Speaker 4: in the middle of a very busy Monday, so I

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Speaker 4: had to cut my trip to Walt Disney World short

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Speaker 4: because one of my children fell particularly ill. So I

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Speaker 4: emailed the masters this morning to see if we can

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Speaker 4: do the show today Monday instead of Tuesday. The one

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Speaker 4: guy who's not on electronic mail as far as I

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Speaker 4: know is Ray Longo. Tell me, as I understand, a

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Speaker 4: Longo had to completely interrupt his entire day, switch up

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Speaker 4: all these sporiing sessions to make the show work, and

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Speaker 4: that was the opposite of my intention.

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Speaker 3: Read I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Say the Ana Cafloran podcast is this priority right now?

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Speaker 2: That was commitment.

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Speaker 3: Loyalty is big in my book. That's all I gotta say.

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Speaker 3: Loyalty is big, gouge.

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Speaker 4: It is interesting, and I can't even talk about this

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Speaker 4: project that is going to involve me in Ray Longo

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Speaker 4: later this year, potentially into next year. But I talked

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Speaker 4: to somebody at ESPN over the weekend, and when I

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Speaker 4: told this per that Ray Longo was one of my

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Speaker 4: best friends and if I had a second wedding this weekend,

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Speaker 4: that he would maybe be a groomsman, like you wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be the best man, Ray, But like, dude, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 4: if I got married this weekend, like there are not

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Speaker 4: four or five gentlemen that beat you out to be

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Speaker 4: a groom And that's how close we have come over

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Speaker 4: the last eight years. So I love you, buddy. I

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Speaker 4: love you too. So we have a lot to get into. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: a UFC Fight Night that was pretty spectacular can flow

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Speaker 4: back from PFL six. Probably happy to have a little

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Speaker 4: respite in the PFL schedule time permitting whether the overall

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Speaker 4: listenership likes it or not. We probably will get into

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Speaker 4: Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg just for a second, because

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Speaker 4: I just want to ask, can flow a couple of

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Speaker 4: things on that front. Big weekend for Longo's locals as well,

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Speaker 4: and of course we'll have more picks coming up for

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Speaker 4: UFC Fight Night Strickland versus Mago. Met up with Brian

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Speaker 4: Petrie towards the end of the show, and I do

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Speaker 4: want to say, Ray Longo, I did not intend to

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Speaker 4: open the show bringing up the chair fall from last week.

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Speaker 2: You see, there's no possible way that I could fall backwards.

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Speaker 3: This week.

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Speaker 4: We're out of my mom's house because we of the

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Speaker 4: show from Monday. From Tuesday to Monday, my mother's not

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Speaker 4: a part of the show today. I was gonna have

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Speaker 4: her on and rake her over the coals and tell

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Speaker 4: her to get some new chairs. But the only thing

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Speaker 4: that would have made that chair fall better, Ray man.

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Speaker 2: If maybe it happened during the Ray long minute, Hey, listen.

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Speaker 3: As long as you're right, man, that's all that matters.

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Speaker 2: The Internet. Internet, Thanks John, I mean you hit it

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Speaker 2: for the podcast. You did it for the Internet. Thank

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Speaker 4: Ye, Kenny sent a message to our group chat like

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have to have somebody quarterly fall out of

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Speaker 4: a chair just for ratings. But Ray doesn't let me

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Speaker 4: hear the end of a lot of things. So had

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Speaker 4: that happened during the Ray LONGO minute, I mean, dude,

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Speaker 4: it would have given you a.

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Speaker 4: But you take me road today, perhaps because we're interrupting,

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Speaker 4: you all sweat soaked after sparn with us.

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Speaker 3: No, no, why wasn't all I heard you were in

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Speaker 3: there with him today? Definitely not. I get the ship

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Speaker 3: You bounce back like a champion, buddy, Right, he did

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Speaker 2: I love it so Ken Flow.

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Speaker 4: We all have a stretch of UFC events where I'm

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Speaker 4: doing like five and six weeks back to backs. I've

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Speaker 4: done three in a row is exceedingly difficult, and you

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Speaker 4: just did at least three in a row in Atlanta, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean there's nothing easy about it, right, Like I

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Speaker 4: like there's always one more thing you could do, and

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Speaker 2: Kid, Yeah, no, not at all. It is tough, you know,

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Speaker 2: But so my body's feeling okay, But yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: It's like you're finishing up, you know, way past midnight.

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Speaker 2: You know, then you're kind of still wired. You don't

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Speaker 2: Ray who just made you smile like that?

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Speaker 3: My goodness, somebody somebody who's training their dad was leaving,

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Speaker 4: Thankfully they can't all hear us and some of that

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Speaker 4: inappropriate content that comes up here on the Encoring podcast,

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Speaker 4: Ray nothing inappropriate about Can Flow's facial hair station in

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Speaker 4: our pre show meeting, Where did Ken Flow's beard go?

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Speaker 2: Raymond? He aubered in brown and black and it is

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Speaker 2: This is truby though he's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nineteen seventy six. There's no way, dude. It is unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: You know what's interesting too, We talked about doctor Scotty

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Speaker 4: my face with stem cells as well, Ken Flow.

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Speaker 2: I know he was. He's like, we can eject anything.

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Speaker 3: Right, doctor way, has anybody had success with the stem cells?

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Speaker 3: Like literally the way you felt the difference?

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Speaker 4: So I know people who have realized great success with

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Speaker 4: the jury is still out. He's trying to employ stem

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Speaker 3: That's a good question, yeah, because I mean I tried

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Speaker 2: I think it depends on the location ray what I've

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Speaker 3: It looks like it's got promise. It just hasn't heard

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm trying to drag can Floyd

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Speaker 4: of his family. But no, it's an interesting navigation, right

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Speaker 4: right at all costs, And that's sort of my initiative.

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Speaker 4: And I don't see, at least in my limited research

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Speaker 4: doesn't work. But let us dive into all the mixed

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Speaker 4: and let us begin, if we could, with Ilia topolia Raymond.

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Speaker 3: I'll start with you. Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's a big game player, and that says

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Speaker 4: You don't hear a lot from him in Spain. You know,

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Speaker 4: he has these magical quotes about seeking perfection and training,

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Speaker 4: Josh Emmittt. There was a big connection by Josh Emmittt

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, first thing that comes to my head

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Speaker 3: of balance, leaping forward. Big shots could always land something,

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Speaker 3: but one guy was always in balance and he worked

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Speaker 3: behind that Jeb beautifully. I give the guy a ten

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Speaker 3: ten on the fight IQ. Just when the fifth round,

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Speaker 3: the only chance this guy had would be to comeback

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Speaker 3: with a huge shot, which he was trying. He answered

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Speaker 3: that bell Man. He came out like you could say,

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Speaker 3: stop it, listen, this is what these guys decided to do.

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Speaker 3: But he responded. He knew what he needed to do.

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Speaker 3: Just at that time he gets taken down. You know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? So again fight IQ wise, give the

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Speaker 3: guy a ten out of ten. Just a simple, beautiful performance.

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Speaker 3: Those are the performances that I love.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: They just what he did. He had a jib, some combos,

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Speaker 3: I can't say enough about how beautiful that fight was

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Speaker 3: for me to watch. And that's what I like at

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Speaker 3: a fight. Is what I saw familiar to Poria that.

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Speaker 2: Night, Kenny.

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Speaker 4: But yes, josh Amman after this fight was completely clear

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Speaker 4: He was livid that he didn't win the fight, and

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Speaker 2: too much. So it's that fine line of like how

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Speaker 2: much of that do I want to leave behind in

432
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: my fight careerramids right, not always an easy answer.

433
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Speaker 3: And he's right there. He's at that point in his

434
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: life where he's going to have to make a couple

435
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 3: of hard decisions. But I that's kind of what I

436
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: was saying. I still think this fights for him. He

437
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 3: could be entertaining and maybe get out of there and

438
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 3: not take the beatings. These are the elite of the elite.

439
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: I don't think he's not He's definitely not doing that.

440
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 3: That's you know, if he's one of those guys that's

441
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Speaker 3: saying I just want to keep fighting for the champion

442
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: and ship, and he's his own worst enemy. That's different.

443
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: But it's the old you know, change your way you

444
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: look at things. The things you look at change. I

445
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: think he's got a change his perspective, you know, be

446
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: happy with making a couple of good paydays, provide for

447
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 3: his family and then take it from there.

448
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Speaker 4: It's a nuanced conversation. It's it's one that we've had before.

449
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 4: I recognize that guys towards the tail end of their

450
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 4: careers oftentimes they can make more money. You know, Ken

451
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 4: Flow was never in the prize fighting business. I know

452
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 4: his back played a role, but as soon as Kenny

453
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 4: recognized that he couldn't be world champion, he was out

454
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Speaker 4: of the game. Now I respect Emmett for sticking around.

455
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Speaker 4: I'm never in the business of retiring fighters.

456
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Speaker 3: Right.

457
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Speaker 4: I intended to have a totally different conversation on this,

458
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Speaker 4: which centered around round four, right, and Josh Emmett's wife, Vanessa,

459
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Speaker 4: and Joey Rodriguez and Chris Holdsworth and Danny Castillo. Some

460
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 4: of those guys are my friends, right, But I'm not

461
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Speaker 4: afraid to open up this conversation.

462
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 2: Does the end justify the means? Right?

463
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Speaker 4: Just because Josh Emmett lands a fucking significant strike that

464
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 4: wobbles Toporia in round five doesn't necessarily mean that these

465
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Speaker 4: coaches didn't fail the athlete. You know, do you think

466
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 4: Vanessa Emmett wants her husband to go back out there.

467
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's probably fine, right, Like, facially and otherwise

468
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 4: mentally cerebrally, I think he's fine. Here's the definition of

469
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Speaker 4: a ten to seven round. And apologize for my animated

470
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Speaker 4: tone here, but like a ten to seven round at

471
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 4: MMA is when a fighter completely overwhelms their opponents in

472
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Speaker 4: effective striking and or grappling, and a stoppage is warranted. So,

473
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Speaker 4: if I'm Chris Lee Kenny, right, I am completely convicted

474
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Speaker 4: in writing down ten to seven. Now, his might have

475
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Speaker 4: been the minority opinion, right when you pull this fan

476
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Speaker 4: base right, and I'm sure that a lot of people

477
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Speaker 4: aren't going to be on my side of this. Right

478
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Speaker 4: to me, though, I wouldn't have had a problem if

479
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Speaker 4: one of those three coaches threw in the tout at

480
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Speaker 4: the end of round four and the other two judges

481
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Speaker 4: had a ten eight, No real issue there.

482
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Speaker 2: We see maybe one or two ten sevens a year.

483
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Speaker 4: Emmett was on the right side of one against Felipe

484
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Speaker 4: a Ance just back in the day. Can flow that Round

485
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Speaker 4: four is a ten to seven for me, and I

486
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Speaker 4: didn't need to see that round and.

487
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Speaker 2: That was a tough one, and I agree with you.

488
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Speaker 2: I think the corner could have done that because it

489
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: wasn't going to get If you're watching the fight and

490
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Speaker 2: you're watching the flow of a fight, you know you

491
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: certainly want to believe in your fighter and and give

492
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Speaker 2: him that shot. But there was nothing that was going

493
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Speaker 2: to change at that point, luckily for him. And again

494
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Speaker 2: this is my interpretation of that fifth round was Eliot

495
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Speaker 2: Topouria didn't want to go in on Emmett anymore and

496
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Speaker 2: he basically just kind of laid back. That's why it

497
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: wasn't as bad. I think, like you're like that, what

498
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Speaker 2: do you mean the fifth round? It was fine, he

499
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Speaker 2: did okay, he was he was moving forward, he was

500
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Speaker 2: back into pour you up. But I think that was

501
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: more to Pouria going I don't want to hurt you anymore, man. Honestly,

502
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Speaker 2: I think it was him laying back and not really

503
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Speaker 2: wanting tod you damage on a guy that he he

504
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: just had his number, man, and that that's tough. That's tough.

505
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Speaker 2: And Emmett Man is such a study again well you

506
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Speaker 2: guys already mentioned it. But unbelievable fighter and tough as nails.

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but John, and we're going to the thing is,

508
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: even if Emmett would have went out and knocked to

509
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: pour her out in the first minute, you're still holding

510
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Speaker 3: to he shouldn't have been out for the fifth round.

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Speaker 4: I am just opening up a conversation and leaning more

512
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Speaker 4: towards that side of it, right, Like, certainly this is

513
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: not going to become a popular narrative because emittt was

514
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 4: competitive in that fifth round, you know, but a fifty

515
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: to forty two, you know, you don't want to be

516
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Speaker 4: on that side of a fifteen forty three even And no,

517
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Speaker 4: I guess I just would wonder aloud because I'm not

518
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Speaker 4: as close to Josh Emmett.

519
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Speaker 2: As I am to Kenny Florian.

520
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Speaker 4: But if ken Flow is on the wrong side of that,

521
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Speaker 4: I'll be fucking texting Keith all night, like what are

522
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 4: we doing for that?

523
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Speaker 2: I'm serious.

524
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Speaker 3: No, I love it. I actually love it. But yeah,

525
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: it's really uh.

526
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Speaker 2: And I've come to love Josh. You know, I'm curious.

527
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Speaker 4: Maybe his wife knows him much better than the rest

528
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Speaker 4: of us, and he's totally fine.

529
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Speaker 3: So I would say, like, if he didn't have big power,

530
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Speaker 3: I would have stopped that fight in the Harby. What

531
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: was his Like if he was just a grappler and

532
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: that was his only chance was to then it's I

533
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: just think he had the power. And like, again, I

534
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 3: think everybody knows what they get into, and yeah, that's

535
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: a really it's just tough. You know, it's tough all

536
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: around for everybody to coaches to fight. But again, if

537
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 3: his wife has that much influence over she's she should

538
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: tell him to stop fighting, then he should abide by it.

539
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Speaker 4: Well, no, I'm and again I'm really truly not suggesting

540
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Speaker 4: that he is. At the end, I just think to

541
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Speaker 4: ken Flow's points, strategically find some matchups now, yes, maybe

542
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: are a touch more favorable, but.

543
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Speaker 2: Yes, I guess the other way.

544
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Speaker 4: Record books are gonna reflect very fondly upon the body

545
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: of work Josh Emmett, Right, Yes, eleven duckdowns coming in

546
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 4: at one point, Kenny, he had a stretch of seven

547
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: straight fights in which he knocks somebody down. He fought

548
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: for an interim championship, right, a lot of accomplishments, and uh,

549
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: I just think we're in a tough reality sometimes where

550
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: and Josh Emmett two is he's in the NFT communities, Like,

551
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 4: I think he does have revenue streams beyond fighting. But

552
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: I do think when you parlay the fact that guys

553
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: make their biggest paydays oftentimes at the end of their

554
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 4: career with the other part of it, that maybe there

555
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: isn't a ton of things to do on the other side,

556
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 4: it can be a recipe for disaster in terms of

557
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 4: sustaining damage when you're close to floor and that's all hey, ray,

558
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: and in terms of how.

559
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: They get to go ahead. Sorry, Yeah, Unfortunately what you're

560
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: saying is right too. Those paydays come at a time

561
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: in your career where you're not as good as you

562
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: were three years ago. Either it's just a that's a week.

563
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: If I could correct one thing, that's what I would correct,

564
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: making sure these guys get paid so they don't have

565
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: to do that, you know what I mean, Because that's

566
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: that's really the problem. Now. They're seeing decent sized paychecks,

567
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: so of course they want to go in and get that.

568
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: They like fighting, and they don't look at the damage

569
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: they're taken and never going to see that the long

570
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: term effects because they're too focused on the price in

571
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: front of them, and that's a shame. And I agree.

572
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: I do agree with you one hundred percent on everything.

573
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Speaker 2: Ray.

574
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Speaker 4: We are going to circle back to this UFC fight

575
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: night when we get you out of here, but I

576
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 4: do want to ask you a little bit about what

577
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: was a crazy three day for you? So you cornered

578
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: several different fighters across three days at three different venues.

579
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: Is that what happened since we last spoke. Well, I

580
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: did two days Friday and Saturday, and then Sunday. I

581
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: just I had to tell you how to take a

582
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: little time, because I mean, the other the fights all

583
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 4: had two girls fight.

584
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: On Friday night, both HARDFOURD fights, but they didn't go

585
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: their way. But we got out of the venue at

586
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: like one in the morning. I think Mia was fighting

587
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: at like twelve thirty. It was insane. So then the

588
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: next day had to come in and then we had

589
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: me and Lolu Niglia promoted a fight in Long Island

590
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: and Matt had two guys or really three guys. They

591
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: were won great fights. Shout out to Marcus, Donnie and Tommy.

592
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: They just they did great. And then we had two

593
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: winners yesterday. But that I didn't go to look amateur

594
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: kickboxes Georgie. Another Georgian guy, what again, sweetheart of a guy.

595
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: He got a win, which I'm happy for. And a

596
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: kid farhand who got a and so it was a

597
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: it was a it was a hectic weekend. I will

598
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: say that all.

599
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: Right, man, before we let you go.

600
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 4: All the other performers at that UFC fight night on ABC,

601
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: I mean Macy Barber, Shine, David Onama, Brendan Allen looks

602
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 4: I want to see fight the last right now.

603
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Brendan Allen, I'm on the Brendan

604
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: Allen Bandwigen after that fight because he stayed in the

605
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: pocket with a freaking killer and he took his ship.

606
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 3: He came. I love those fights. Well, you could take

607
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: the best of what that guy has, but he can't

608
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: deal with the ship you're good at. So what a

609
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: great fight for Brendan Allen. I was that was a

610
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: really good fight, you know, for a couple of reasons.

611
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: But I'm on the Brendan Allen bandwig and I think

612
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: he's gonna pose a lot of problems for a lot

613
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: of people.

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Speaker 4: Well, we are happy to hear that, and he will

615
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: be very happy to hear that praise from Ray Longo,

616
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame coach. Well, thank you, buddy, h

617
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: We appreciate the time. He's at ray long MMA on Twitter,

618
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: and I think it's at ray Longo MMA nine eight.

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Speaker 2: You like that?

620
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, I gotta start. I gotta get back in.

621
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Speaker 3: I just kenzucker Berg. Can I get my fucking account back?

622
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: How hard is that? The guy's not me?

623
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: You a handicap? How do you handicap his fight with

624
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: Elon musk.

625
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh? That should be an all.

626
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: Right, we'll talk to you next week.

627
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: That's good. No, obviously it goes to the floor. Is

628
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: jiu Jitsum goes a long way, man, especially when a

629
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: guy has nothing right Kendy, I mean it's a trust me.

630
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: You put me on the floor with somebody doesn't know anything.

631
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to look like a black belt. But so

632
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: I think, uh yeah, I don't know. I don't know,

633
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

634
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: It's a thanks for moving your schedule today today, anytime,

635
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: guys taking these.

636
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: You guys woke up. I'm happy because at the beginning

637
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: of this you almost put me to sleep. So that's

638
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: what we gave our right.

639
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: I think you want us to go crazy in the

640
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: pre show.

641
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: I want to go nuts right off the game. Yeah, crazy, guys.

642
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Speaker 4: Thank you these enjoy I have a great day and

643
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: a better evening. Ray long ago with us. Every week

644
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: here on the Annak and Florian podcast, quick choose.

645
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646
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Speaker 3: the six dollar mcdouble meal deal, or the new seven

647
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Speaker 3: dollars daily double meal deal, each with its own small

648
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Speaker 3: friar street and four piece of McNuggets.

649
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Speaker 2: It's actually no rush. I'm just excited for McDonald's for

650
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Speaker 2: a lit time only press the participation may bring not

651
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Speaker 2: delga MC delivery.

652
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Speaker 4: Ilio Topoitia is now fourteen and O Kenny he is

653
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Speaker 4: six and oh in the UFC anyone who wondered aloud

654
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 4: how his style would translate over twenty five minutes against

655
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: an Elief fighter, I think got a lot of answers.

656
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that this guy uh.

657
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: Has many weaknesses that I've seen mentally, physically, emotionally. I

658
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: think he has a great support system. As I mentioned,

659
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 4: he deals with pressure. Well, what are your thoughts on

660
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: the journey thus far for Ilio Topoitia and Alexander Volkanowski

661
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: and Yahia Rodriguez are going to fight in two weeks, right,

662
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: so I don't want to get too far ahead of

663
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: ourselves in terms of handicapping Konovski and to Poitia. But

664
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: because Bulk is the consensus number one pound for pound

665
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: fighter in the world, what are your thoughts on Toporitia

666
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 4: in that type of fight? And do you think that

667
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: indeed a championship opportunity is what's going to be next

668
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: for the Spand it's.

669
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Pretty simple that Son of a Bitch is good and

670
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: I think you it was great that you talked about

671
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: all of those things, because it's tough to see a

672
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: fighter at this stage of their career to have all

673
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: of those things. And I think that when you're looking

674
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: at someone like Topuria. From the outside looking in, you think, well,

675
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: this guy is kind of you know, this hot blooded dude.

676
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: You know, he kind of talks a lot of trash,

677
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: and certainly he's not going to be patient when he fights.

678
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: You're like, huh, yeah, yeah, he's really fucking patient. And

679
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: then but he has that killer instinct as well, and

680
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: balancing those two things and balancing the emotions and you know,

681
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: having that right mix of tactics and strategy, but being

682
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: aggressive that's rare these days. That's rare, and he's doing

683
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: it at a very high level. John, and I think

684
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: that he truly is one of those guys that could

685
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: potentially again Volkanovsky's been fighting a long time and you

686
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: look at what Volkanovsky has done, He's not gonna be

687
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: easy to beat at this stage. I would definitely have

688
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: Volkanovsky as a favorite against Aporia. But if there's one

689
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: guy who has all those skills at this stage, without

690
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: the miles, without the miles, that can go out and

691
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: beat Volkanovski, it might it might be Iliotoporia. Dude, like

692
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: he I really think he's that good. So I'm curious

693
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: to see how Wait when he takes his next fight,

694
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: because that's another thing John I don't want to talk about.

695
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: He's had this like nice break of fights. I think

696
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: he had one quick turnaround. But he's taking his fights

697
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: and he's taking the right opponents at the right time.

698
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: That is another thing where management comes in and coaching

699
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: comes in to make those right decisions, and they're doing

700
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: that too.

701
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, well, right, if you're Ilioto Poitia, right,

702
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: Brazilian jiu jitsu black belts are Otherwise you take in

703
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: a fight with a returning Brian or Tagan a main

704
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: event in December, or you're gonna buy your time and

705
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: wait for a potential title at fourteen.

706
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: And oh, you're right. There's a strategy to all of this.

707
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: And when I look at his UFC schedule here right

708
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: October of twenty twenty. Then he did have the quick

709
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: turn December of twenty twenty, but that was still a

710
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: COVID Climbate fought just once in twenty twenty one, then

711
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: twice in twenty twenty two. Now he was to face

712
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: mavsar Ivloyev at UFC two seventy you may recall in

713
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: January of twenty twenty two. That's a type of interim

714
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: title fight type D al right, depending on I Volkanovski

715
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: wins against the Aire, maybe goes back up, but Mavsar withdrew.

716
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: He was replaced by Charles Jordain, and then Topoitia was

717
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 4: pulled due to a weight cutting issue. That fight never happened.

718
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: I would love to see Mavsar Evloyevannilia Topoli at some

719
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: point in time, but I do believe that Topoitia could

720
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: have positioned himself already to just idle and wait for

721
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: a title shot. But July eighth is coming quick, so.

722
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and after seeing their last fight, and again you

723
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: never know what's happening going into the fight, but based

724
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: on what I saw that both of their last fights,

725
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: I think Tolporia not only does he win out a fight,

726
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: I think glory you might finish Ivloyev. To be honest,

727
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've if Aev wants that smoke

728
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 2: at this stage of the game. After what I just saw,

729
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: that dude is primed and ready.

730
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 4: I know Cody just said that in the chat that

731
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: Topodia could be back up for International Fight Week. Absolutely, unequivocally, No,

732
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: I love you, Cody, but he cuts a ton of

733
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: weight and all he's talking about is eating and hanging

734
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: out with his son. And it was also twenty five minutes.

735
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: He was hit pretty hard late in that fight. Yeah,

736
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: I understand the testicles, Cody, I understand, but he's absolutely

737
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: not taking that fight and not even weighing in for.

738
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: A couple hundred thousand dollars.

739
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 4: And that's the other thing too that you don't know

740
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 4: sometimes how much financial freedom these individuals have right coming

741
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: into the UFC, right, like at Asanya could have come

742
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: a lot earlier if he needed money desperately. Right, There's

743
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 4: a lot of different things going on, Like I don't

744
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: think Toilpodia is as focused on the money as he

745
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: is the world title, and you know I had. I

746
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: don't think he has any problem waiting a year right

747
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: now if need be. We also have a main event

748
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 4: between Max Holloway and the Korean zombie Chan Sung Jung.

749
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: Max Holloway is the guy who I think Topodia has

750
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: targeted in a non championship situation, but again, couldn't have

751
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 4: done more. With a huge audience on ABC, we congratulate

752
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 4: ili A Topodia and Josh Emmett like all the respect,

753
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 4: like buckets of respect. Yeah for the toughness and everything else.

754
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: Can't even relate to any bit of it, but he

755
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 4: is my friend and man, sometimes it's hard to watch

756
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 4: guys absorb a whole lot of damage.

757
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 2: All right, let us get to.

758
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: The co main event, and Brian Pechre's going to join

759
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: us for part of this recap coming up in about

760
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 4: five minutes. Macy Barber over Amanda he Boss by TKO

761
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: in round two. Some weird visuals from Amanda he Boss

762
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 4: as they were about to announce the official decision. I

763
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 4: don't know if she's just religious and into her faith,

764
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 4: and she was pointing to the sky. It was a

765
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: finish right, so certainly weren't waiting for any sort of scorecards.

766
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 4: But that was a little bit alarming, but soundly alarmed

767
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 4: because Macy Barber looks a whole lot like a future

768
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: champion and me can flow. It is crazy to think

769
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: about her trajectory, making her UFC debut at twenty years old,

770
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: and now the sophistication of her striking her feints, her

771
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: in and outs to go with all the grappling, the

772
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: mental fortitude she's had a performance coach for years, like

773
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: Chips to the center of the fucking table on Macy

774
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: Barber absolutely thinks she's gonna fight for the world title.

775
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: May just go out and wind. There's so much there

776
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: I do. I'm glad you reminded me about that. At

777
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: the end with Heboss kind of pointing to this guy.

778
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if she was like, you know, just

779
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: thankful for God and you know, I know she's religious,

780
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: Like if it was that, or if she was like,

781
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: please let me get this decision. And in my mind,

782
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: I was like, what does she know what's going on

783
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 2: right now? Hopefully that's not the case. Hopefully she's okay.

784
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: But anyway, Macy Barber, Man, what a performance. What a

785
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: fight by both ladies. First of all, they went at it, dude,

786
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: Macy Barber was hitting Amanda Heboss like she stole something

787
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: from her. And I think that was the one of

788
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: the best striking performances I've seen from Macy Barcause sometimes

789
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, it's almost like she's shadow

790
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: boxing and she's just kind of throwing punches wherever she

791
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: was targeting, and she was landing, you know, and to me,

792
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: you know, she's clearly a very strong girl. I mean,

793
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: she she is physically very impressive. I thought she had

794
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: a very good performance. I thought she showed a lot

795
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: of toughness as well as well, because Amanda Hebus was

796
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: landing some big shots, but the shots that Macy Barber

797
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: was landing like Amanda Heboss again coming up and wait,

798
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: like she just wasn't ready for that level of power,

799
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: and Macy Barber took full advantage. What I loved about

800
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: it on the ground was how she was like, no,

801
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna just like exchange jiu jitsu positions with you.

802
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 2: I'm going to get to a position where I can

803
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: beat you up. That's all I care about. I thought

804
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: that was a beautiful demonstration of mma jiu jitsu or

805
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: mma grappling. You know, sometimes we get too caught up

806
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: as jiu jitsu guys as grapplers of like going into

807
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: grappling mode where it's like no, you could still hover

808
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: over them and rained down blows with good position like

809
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: that is just as valid as you know, exchanging or

810
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: looking for submission. So I thought she just looked like

811
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: she was finally comfortable in the UFC Octa, Like She's

812
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: had good performances before, but this is one from Macy

813
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: barbera that thought. She actually looked comfortable, like she belonged,

814
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 2: like she was confident, and she was executing her moves

815
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: very well. Solid performance man.

816
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: So I'm suggesting that Amana Hebas did that same thing

817
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: when she got knocked out by Marina Hadriguez. So I

818
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: guess not a big deal there, But Macy Barber's a

819
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 4: big deal. And a lot of the copy that I

820
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: wrote for this show ended up on the cutting room

821
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: floor because we had a lot of decisions. But one

822
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: of the things that I wrote about Macy Barber was

823
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 4: that she definitely has a championship aura about her. One

824
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: thing that I think we benefit from, of course, or

825
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: these fighter meetings, but having done them now for so

826
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: many years, with so many fighters, you gain a lot

827
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: of intel into sort of the mental and comparing one

828
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: ath to another, and Macy Barber just has it. And

829
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 4: she has five consecutive wins. Kenny, dating to the loss

830
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 4: to Alexa Grosso which was at UFC two fifty eight

831
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one, she said that was a brutal

832
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: camp and she learned a lot and look at the

833
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: results since right, five straight wins. Now she gets to finish,

834
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: she's going to be in the top ten, probably number

835
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: eight or nine. Quick thoughts on Macy Barber moving forward?

836
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 4: For me, it's probably a main event, right. It looks

837
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: like a lot of the fighters near the top of

838
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: the division do have fights right now. But I think

839
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 4: you could do worse than like a Macy Barber, Caitlin

840
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 4: Shukegian main event. You know, what are your thoughts on

841
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 4: Macy Barber and realistically in your mind, how high is

842
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: the ceiling?

843
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: You know, I think the ceiling is very high. I

844
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: was a little doubtful of that at some points of

845
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: her career, but I think seeing that last performance against

846
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: he Boss, I came away very impressed. I think she

847
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: could absolutely climb her way to the top and fight

848
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: for the belt at some point. I think taking the

849
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: right fights would be crucial. I think maybe someone like a,

850
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: you know, not going too high, but getting that experience

851
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: right Lauren Murphy, I think, for example, would be a good,

852
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 2: good fight Jennifer Maya, you know, yeah, one of those

853
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: I think makes a lot of sense. And I think

854
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: getting that experience and now you know, now that she

855
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: has that confidence and those skills in place, I think

856
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: is going to be crucial for not only getting to

857
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: the top, but having that lasting power where you could

858
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: you know that, where you could stay there for a

859
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: long time. I think that's that's just as important for

860
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: a young fighter as well.

861
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 4: And those are good options, and those are all tough fights.

862
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 4: I guess I would just like to see her elevated

863
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: into a main event. Seems like women headline a lot.

864
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: I would like to see Macy Barbara afforded that opportunity.

865
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: A couple of poll questions.

866
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: Today at Anna Florian pot on Twitter Pole question number two.

867
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: I always go radio.

868
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 4: Mode on the pole question, you know, like like like

869
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: artificial radio voice. Today's Anak and Florian podcast. After her

870
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 4: incredible showing on ABC this past weekend, how do you

871
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 4: foresee the future for twenty five year old Macy Barber?

872
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: Will she become a UFC champion? Right Your options are

873
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 4: world champion, fights for the title but no belt, or

874
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 4: gets to a main event but no title shot. And

875
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: right now, twenty six point five percent of fans poll

876
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: believes she will become a world champion. Fifty four point

877
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 4: one percent I think she'll fight for the title but

878
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: not win the belt, and then twenty percent of you

879
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: think main event but no title shot. The other pole

880
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: question can flow. And I don't know if you saw

881
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: the fight the prelim between Chepe Modaskal and Trevor Peak.

882
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: You probably didn't see it.

883
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 4: I did not, So your homework for next week's Anak

884
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: and Florian podcast is to go watch Chepe Modeskal. The

885
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: only reason I didn't book him today is because I

886
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 4: know how busy you have been. Like we've gone forty

887
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 4: five minutes today, we haven't even talked about the pfl

888
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 4: But go look up Chepe Modaskal and the poll question

889
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 4: at Anti Florian pod. Should Chepe Moduskal go high and

890
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: tight and get a skin fade or keep the whiffle.

891
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: Sixty two point zero. The numbers have changed, It's not

892
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: that high.

893
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 4: A lot of you guys like the whiffle, but earlier

894
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: today almost sixty three percent of you thought that he

895
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 4: should get a skin fade. But dude, that's one of

896
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: the best fights of twenty twenty.

897
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: Three for me.

898
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and damn, just an incredible.

899
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 4: UFC debut by a guy competing against an undefeated fighter

900
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: up a division.

901
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: A lot to unpack on that.

902
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: Real quickly wanted to touch on the heavyweight Austin Lane

903
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 4: and Justin Taffa before we bring on Brian Peatrie. Like

904
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: my daughter we were wrestling and poked me in the

905
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 4: eye after that fight, and I'm so glad it happened,

906
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: right because yeah, like I'm a pussy whatever, right, but

907
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 4: like ow and I come for a little bit so

908
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: like respect to Blau Muhammad, who absorbed a brutal one

909
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: back in the day against Leon Edwards. Respect to Justin Tafa,

910
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: Like I can assure you the last thing he wanted

911
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: was to make less money and have that entire flight

912
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 4: back as a one eyed fighter. Like, I don't know,

913
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: I thought Dan MURGLEI outa did him a little bit

914
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: of a disservice, if I'm being honest, Like, I just

915
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: thought that the trigger could.

916
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 3: Have come sooner.

917
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: I didn't know what we were waiting for. I was

918
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: observing Mark Goddard's body language. He was trying to expedite

919
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: the process as best he could from his vantage point. Like, dude,

920
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 4: that like half of Austin Lane's finger through the knuckle

921
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: in the midjoint was in Justin Tafa's eye.

922
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's six ft six foot seven or something

923
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: like that, sixty six or whatever. That's a big finger, dude.

924
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: It was horrible. It was horrible. I thank my lucky

925
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: stars that I never took an eye gouge like that

926
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: during that point in my career, Like I would have

927
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: been so upset, first of all, because that fight is

928
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: taken away, right, and potentially permanent damage to the eye. Right,

929
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: It's like you lose one of the eyes, or you

930
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: lose some kind of vision or have some issues in

931
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 2: your eye, you could never fight again. So and again,

932
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: you know, Austin Lane wasn't trying to do that on purpose.

933
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: It was just a weird occurrence, unfortunate, but yeah, you

934
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: hate seeing those type of occurrences. And it doesn't take

935
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: a whole lot as as you were talking about to

936
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: mess up your eye. I think the worst thing I

937
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 2: had I got like maybe a side of a glove

938
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: in the eye. I got blood in my eye twice,

939
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: and that becomes like someone puts like a red curtain

940
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: over your eye and you just can't see anything. So

941
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: I've dealt with like not being able to see during

942
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: a fight, but I've never dealt with like a finger

943
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: in your eye. You know that that's just a whole

944
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: different ball of wax. And that sucks. That's never a

945
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 2: good thing. And I just hope his eye is okay,

946
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: he's able to fight, you know, odds are yes, but

947
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: maybe not.

948
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the rub exactly right, And maybe I shouldn't

949
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: come down on the referee. Maybe I'm looking for more

950
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: conviction from the doctor, because you can be sure some

951
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: of our ringside physicians in Nevada are stopping that thing.

952
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: The fifth time. Justin Taffa says he can't see, and

953
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 4: I'm pretty close to the guy, right, I can see

954
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: how bad the damage is. Like, have we learned nothing

955
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: from Michael Bisman right when it comes to the eye

956
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 4: and the fact that he fought George San Pierre and

957
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: Kelvin Gasolom with one eye and probably several other individuals

958
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: as well. Yes, I don't know, man, I don't know.

959
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 4: It just seemed like that went on way too long

960
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: than it should have. And I just hope people cut

961
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: Tafa a break. Certainly anti climactic for Austin Lane with

962
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 4: that Jacksonville backdrop, but it is what it is.

963
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: These guys get an ipoke like that, you got to

964
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: stop the fight, all right.

965
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go three wide now and welcome in big

966
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: gun Brian Petrie into the conversation. It was a big

967
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: week for him. More on that later when we get

968
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 4: to the main event challenge, but uh, just in terms

969
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: of a few things BP, and it's good to see

970
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: a buddy.

971
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: Hey was that?

972
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: Boys?

973
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: I told my personal trainer, Rio Santana at the Institute

974
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: of Human Performance that you were six to three and

975
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: he was like what I'm like, dude, tell.

976
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: Him I'm bigger.

977
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 5: Thanks too, I got I got the baby face. I'm

978
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 5: bigger than people think. I'm a thick old boy. I

979
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 5: just got thick parts. That's all it is. By the way,

980
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 5: where's Kenny at Who's this twenty two year old guy

981
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 5: with no show?

982
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: This is a handsome guy. What's going on? I don't

983
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: really like the no beard, but I think he looked

984
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: I think he looked good both ways.

985
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: But thank you.

986
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: He's making me feel good after the week. He just

987
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: absolutely destroyed me. I'm down on the ground mountain just shots.

988
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: Just sorry.

989
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're going to get into all of that.

990
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: What's most interesting about that? Respectfully? Like, I had no

991
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: idea until I tell you the standings right, and maybe

992
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: I could have a better memory or listen, better. I

993
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: listened every goddamn what do you guys have to say?

994
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: But I don't know when I'm calling these fights, what's

995
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 4: exactly going on. Maybe I should just bring the card

996
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: with me when I have a commercial break or something.

997
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 4: But you know, we have a family atmosphere here on

998
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: the Anakin Floran podcast, So I waited to bring up

999
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 4: my kids in the arena until this segment. I know Petrie,

1000
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 4: as a father of young children, was touched by the

1001
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: UFC sort of taking care of my kids.

1002
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: But I have to tell you.

1003
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: Guys, so because it was a matinee, it was the

1004
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: perfect storm. VIP arena area wasn't particularly crowded, right, but

1005
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 4: circumstantially Briy. My kids left after round three of that

1006
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 4: main event, and certainly they saw a bloody comin event.

1007
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: And my kids don't care about the blood. They had

1008
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: the time of their lives to Amber and everybody else. Like,

1009
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to repay you people for

1010
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: the experience you gave my family and the memory that

1011
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 4: we will now have forever.

1012
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: But what are the odds that they would walk out

1013
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: after round three before the ten to seventh?

1014
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: God?

1015
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: Right, like that could have really had an effect I

1016
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 4: would think on my daughters like that.

1017
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: Dude took a pounding in round four.

1018
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 5: Right, that's nuts. It's touching. I'm such a softy now

1019
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 5: with the two girls and senior wife posts that stuff

1020
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 5: about your sons. I knew it was his birthday, Happy birthday, Hunter,

1021
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 5: and then seeing them be that close to you, Oh man,

1022
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 5: it pulled on my heartstrings.

1023
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: Man, that's cool. It was. I believe it was two

1024
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: of your three kids first shows. Is that what you said? Yeah?

1025
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: So, I mean that's just unbelievable. Man, that's really cool.

1026
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 4: All right, So on my list for you today, Cepe

1027
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: Modescol and Trevor Peak. But firstly on the main event,

1028
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 4: and we did a deep dive on the Josh Emmetts side.

1029
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 4: But a ten to seven round in mma is when

1030
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 4: a fighter completely overwhelms their opponent in effective striking and

1031
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: or grappling and a stoppage is warranted.

1032
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on that part.

1033
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 4: Of the fight, That huge fourth round for Topodia, and

1034
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: I guess everything that happened between rounds and there after.

1035
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had no problem to ten seven. I mean,

1036
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 5: listen to Poorio every time he hit Emmett.

1037
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: It hurt him.

1038
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 5: I mean, if there's a ten seven m MA, that's

1039
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 5: got to be it, you know what I mean. So

1040
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 5: I have no problem with that at all. And usually

1041
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 5: I'm such I'm a guy that's like throwing the towel, right,

1042
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 5: you know, his face the mess every time was a

1043
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 5: thud to the head.

1044
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, but.

1045
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 5: Emmett's power keeps him in a situation like that because

1046
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 5: you can't pull the rug from him, because we've.

1047
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: Seen it in the Michael Johnson fight.

1048
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 5: So it almost like it hurts him because he's going

1049
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 5: out there in the fifth runt winging shots and one

1050
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 5: of those can land, you know what I mean, Like

1051
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 5: what if one of those lands and were then we're

1052
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 5: we're talking about this great comeback by Josh Emmett. So

1053
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 5: it was it was not hard for me to watch.

1054
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 5: Actually usually it is. I just appreciated Emmett's heart. When

1055
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 5: the doctor asked him like do you want to continue,

1056
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 5: He's like fuck yeah, Like that that's some g shit

1057
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 5: right there. And then to Poria is showing answering all

1058
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 5: the questions that I had about him, and I know

1059
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 5: we were kind of active in the group chat. His patience,

1060
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: his vision, in the pockets. Curtis, who's not complimentary nor

1061
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 5: does he watch MMA, complimented elir to Poria's defense, which

1062
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 5: says something right that that's a guy who's paying attention,

1063
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: uh to someone really good defensive like that. I love

1064
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 5: the main event, man, I think we have a star

1065
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 5: in the making to Pour a good looking guy you know,

1066
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 5: you know, speaks English, well speak Spanish. Has not a

1067
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 5: lot of people come from Spain either. I know he's Georgian,

1068
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: but he's got the Spain. He's there with hot chick

1069
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 5: walking on the octagon. Yeah, he's flashing on Bentley's on

1070
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 5: Instagram like this dude could be a star for sure.

1071
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 5: And and I'm glad you touched on his management because

1072
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 5: his management, coaching, whatever, they're really putting them in positions

1073
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 5: to shine here and that's that's really important.

1074
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 4: So and he's got like some of the the Irish

1075
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 4: fighters are the Georgian fighters. There's a definite vibe when

1076
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: it's Team Topotia in town and they masterfully handled their

1077
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: first UFC main event and all that came with it,

1078
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 4: all right, so Cepe Modeskaal and Trevor Peak. One of

1079
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 4: the best fights I've called in twenty twenty three. I'm

1080
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 4: so excited to talk to Chepe Modiscal in the future

1081
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 4: here on the anakm Florian podcast. But I guess I'll

1082
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: ask you this because it did not win Fight of

1083
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 4: the night that went to Beatty and Josh Ammitt, and

1084
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 4: oftentimes the preliminary fighters don't get that type of nod

1085
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 4: or treatment because of everything that happens thereafter. But let

1086
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: me ask you this now, this is the question that

1087
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: I formatted for the show today. How do you compare

1088
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 4: at year's end a fight between Jared Cannoneer and Marvin

1089
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 4: Vittori at the ufc Apex versus Chepe Modiscal and Trevor

1090
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: Peak with a crowd It wasn't like packed to the

1091
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: nines at that point.

1092
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 2: Of the night.

1093
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: But in terms of those two fights in back to

1094
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: back weeks and the fight of your conversation, how do

1095
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 4: those stack up in your mind?

1096
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 5: So I'm a bit of a MMA snob, as they

1097
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 5: would say. The Trevor Peak Moscow fight was great, but

1098
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 5: it did get a little kind of backyardy Brawley Peak

1099
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 5: with his hand on the cage, gassing and then throwing

1100
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 5: haymakers like that's really fun. You need fights like that.

1101
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 5: Both those guys are absolute dogs. But for me, being

1102
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 5: a snob, I'm glad I don't get a vote. I

1103
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 5: prefer a little more technique, a little more you know,

1104
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 5: like that's like a Leonard Garcia type of fight, you know,

1105
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 5: back in the day.

1106
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: Everyone. Those are cool, Those are great. I enjoyed the

1107
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: shit out of that.

1108
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 5: I was at my daughter's birthday party watching my phone,

1109
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: going nuts, like, look at this dude from Alabama swinging right? Yeah,

1110
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 5: but yeah, I mean, I mean if I the night sure,

1111
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 5: I mean listen to Poria Emmett was a more high

1112
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 5: level fight, more steaks. I don't know how the factor

1113
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 5: and hopefully those guys got some kind of bonus because

1114
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 5: Chepe looked. I mean, he's fought some really good guys

1115
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 5: outside of the UFC, A Manhatti camping my part. I picked

1116
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 5: Peak just because he's kind of a little Mma Twitter

1117
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 5: Marvel right now. I mean, the guy clearly cuts his

1118
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 5: own hair. I don't know where he trains at in Alabama, right,

1119
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 5: but he's just swinging. And Chepe has a decent little record,

1120
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 5: and he went in there and performed really well. But yeah,

1121
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 5: it wouldn't it wouldn't be on my top five Johnny

1122
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 5: Five of the year.

1123
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 3: If I'm being honest with you.

1124
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: I don't know that either one of them is going

1125
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 4: to end up in my top five. I just think

1126
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: it's an interesting conversation. Beauty in the eye of the beholder. Yeah,

1127
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: I like this one better than the Tory cannoneer. I

1128
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 4: think you're short change in Chepe Modascal a scosh right

1129
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 4: like Early's right, and in the chat Trevor Peak always

1130
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: gets backyardy and I agree with that. The downlod Hammer fist.

1131
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 4: I can't wait for Kenny to watch it next week.

1132
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 4: But Chepe Modiscal man for a UFC debut right up

1133
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 4: ten pounds at lightweight, and the strength of schedule can

1134
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 4: flow by the way coming in. He's the first guy

1135
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: to beat Yusuf Zilal took his oh beat Pat Sabatini.

1136
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 4: Thought Bryce Mitchell in twenty seventeen, thought Gregor Gillespian sixteen,

1137
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: Sean Soriana, Steve Garcia in an LFA main event in

1138
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, Like this dude deserved to be here. He's

1139
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: been helping Justin Gatchie with his defense, with his sparring.

1140
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 4: Chepe modiscal man Chepe fucking madascal, like I'm.

1141
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: So excited to see the future.

1142
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: He's got a significant other, Claire Guthrie, chief in the corner.

1143
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: Let's go Chepe, dude. So I gotta say, I got

1144
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: to defend myself here a little bit because people get upset.

1145
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: They're like, dude, does Floria watch these zs? Florian watched

1146
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: these fights or what? And I'm like, on a PFL

1147
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 2: fight week, like it's three in a row. It's very

1148
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: difficult for me. Guys. I'm sorry. I gotta watch twice

1149
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: as many fights as everybody else. I gotta get there.

1150
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 2: I have a family as well, Guys, I do other

1151
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: stuff as well. It's really tough. So if I miss

1152
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: a fight and I'm not speaking intelligently about it, I

1153
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: am so sorry. But it's not because I don't want to.

1154
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 4: Okay, No, some weeks absolutely are tougher than others. To

1155
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 4: be I certainly don't bring that up to throw you

1156
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 4: under the bus at all. All he's required to watch

1157
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 4: is the main card for us, and we're required to

1158
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 4: watch the main card of the PFL, and we will

1159
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: get to PFL six. I might have to shortchange these

1160
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: UFC fight Night Predictions just a little bit, boys, because

1161
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 4: there were so many other things that we need to

1162
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 4: get to here from this main card on ABC, Like

1163
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 4: Ray Longo touched on Brendan Allen Kenny. But Brendan Allen

1164
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 4: has arrived at one hundred and eighty five pounds and

1165
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 4: had a willing dance partner in Bruno Silva, who provides

1166
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 4: a tremendously high danger factor. But Brendan Allen wants to

1167
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 4: fight the toughest guys, and even though maybe he turned

1168
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: this fight down initially, he understood the value of a

1169
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 4: win over Bruno Silva and gets him out of there

1170
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: can flow on ABC. And I agree with Brendan Allen

1171
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: in terms of what he said after the fight, like

1172
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 4: he presents a threat to Adasanya in myriad areas the

1173
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: way a lot of these top eighty five ers who've

1174
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 4: had a shot don't.

1175
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: He's turned a corner. Man. I think he's in a

1176
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: good spot because of where he's placing that division and

1177
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 2: the fact that Adasannya has beaten everybody in that division.

1178
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: He's got a shot at some point, right. I think

1179
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: that was smart for him to do that. He has

1180
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: turned a corner, no question. In my mind, because there's

1181
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: times where like he would use he will lead with

1182
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: his heart and his toughness and he'll find a way

1183
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: to win. This was his skill leading the way I think.

1184
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: Obviously he did get hit with a certain shot. His

1185
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: toughness was there, but he was so calm on the

1186
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: counter and when he finished it was like, I don't know,

1187
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 2: it looked like that student teacher relationship. When he got

1188
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: the finish, he was like na son went back, had

1189
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: his space him out. Watch the whole thing happen. Watch

1190
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: the punch was by him and he just took care

1191
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: of business. It was sweet, and I think he's really

1192
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: coming into his own. That was a great fight for

1193
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: him to build yet even more experience and confidence and momentum.

1194
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: And I'm excited for him because he's also just a

1195
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: great kid. So good to see him do well. Man, Pp,

1196
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: you got anything for me?

1197
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: On mister Brendan Allen over Bruno Silva by Rear Naked Show.

1198
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, guy keeps taking my money. I keep stupidly fading him. Listen.

1199
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 5: The one thing that really shined in this fight is

1200
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 5: the two fights that he had lost with Strickland and Chris.

1201
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 5: He got hit and then it was a panic that

1202
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 5: said it, and then that led to the finish. He

1203
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 5: got cracked on one of the hardest hit was eighty five.

1204
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 5: Definitely wobbled, definitely, legs went numb, bells ringing, and he

1205
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 5: stayed composed. Right, he said, I've been here before. Let's

1206
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 5: not freak out. High guard, circle, circle, and then he

1207
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 5: can start counting, right, he didn't just start firing off

1208
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 5: and to get clipped again. I love seeing that. For

1209
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 5: not to mention, he's like twenty seven years old, he's

1210
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 5: starting to round in. I still like to see him

1211
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 5: go against like a Jared cannoneer something like that. I

1212
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 5: know that he kind of called for that fight as well,

1213
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 5: but if they throw him in with he is, he's

1214
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 5: kind of lapping the vision.

1215
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going to complain about it. Take my money.

1216
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: I watched that, right. No, I think you set that

1217
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: up well.

1218
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 4: I think a main event against Jared Cannon here that

1219
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: he called for makes a ton of sense.

1220
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: I think you got to get him the purple shorts.

1221
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: I think you got to get him to show and.

1222
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 4: His brother, James Junior, is a quadriplegic and I don't

1223
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: know how far he can travel, but that is part

1224
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: of the impetus for jow Louisiana. By the way, remember

1225
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 4: when we had Brendan Allen on the endcan Forlorn podcast

1226
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 4: and I was.

1227
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, your wife and your daughters. He's like, oh,

1228
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: actually I'm not married. Yeah. Good, that's good timing. That

1229
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 2: was good.

1230
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1231
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: Congratulations Also to David o'naman.

1232
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 4: I's hit for Pechu there on him plus one ninety

1233
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 4: five camp Change paying immediate dividends for him as he

1234
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: cashes as an underdog. Neil Magne over Phil Rowe, Randy

1235
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: Brown makes it five wins in his last six, Tabitha

1236
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 4: Ricci baby Shark a four consecutive win, and Jack Jenkins

1237
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 4: also a nice win over Jamal Lemmers, although I think

1238
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 4: a lot of people inside that arena felt like that

1239
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: fight should have gone the other way. Actually, yeah, one

1240
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: of the judges had at thirty to twenty seven for

1241
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: for mister Jamal Emmers. All right, we are going to

1242
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 4: spin it forward, but before we do that, I'm going

1243
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 4: to take up one hundred and twenty seconds of Kenny

1244
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 4: Florian's time if I could, and talk about PFL six

1245
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: and Shane Burgos makes one hundred thousand dollars to show

1246
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 4: he gets his first win, but he is out of

1247
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: the tournament. Sadabou C, though, man is the guy who's

1248
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 4: Wikipedia page that I printed up today because Ken flow

1249
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 4: like when did you make your PFL debut?

1250
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: As a commentator? Like do you have that information for me? Yeah? No,

1251
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: I see I've got hard Like why am I asking you? That?

1252
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: Was it twenty twenty one? Right?

1253
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 4: Because this dude was nine six and two after a

1254
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 4: lost to Mago Met Mago met Karamov at PFL seven,

1255
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: And now it's just like green stripes everywhere.

1256
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: The bodies are hitting the fucking floor.

1257
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: His name Sadabu fucking c And even though he's closer

1258
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: to forty than thirty, I'm all in, So tell me

1259
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: about what happened there on the ATL.

1260
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: Dude's beast man, the way he's put it all together.

1261
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it takes a little while for you

1262
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: to get it together, get your game together. And he

1263
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 2: has been working, you know, very hard on his wrestling,

1264
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: and I think finally now that his wrestling is coming

1265
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: to order. He showed that last year and now now

1266
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: he can actually let his hands fly. Last year, he

1267
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: wasn't as confident letting his hands fly. But now it's

1268
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: coming all together, the confidence, the wrestling, the striking, and dude,

1269
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: he put on a show like he was looking for

1270
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: this spinning wheel kick three times maybe four times and

1271
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: finally got it at the end. And dude, he throws

1272
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: it so damn fast, and how he was like disguising

1273
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: it with all these other things. It's it's really impressive.

1274
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: Six foot three, one hundred and seventy pounds, you know,

1275
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: world class striker now has the wrestling to keep it

1276
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: on the feet. Really he doesn't have easy matchups. You know,

1277
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: you have these two Russians on the other side, Umlatov

1278
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: and Maga med KARAMOFV. But yeah, man, he really is

1279
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: developing it to uh must CTV.

1280
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: According to tapology, Ken Flow's first PFL broadcast was April

1281
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Speaker 4: twenty third, twenty twenty one. So I think sadab C

1282
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: really just needed Ken Flow on the sticks and that Hey, Brian,

1283
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 4: you know my schedule is you know, tighter than five

1284
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: virgins in a Volkswagen as the rapper Matt Skills would say. Right,

1285
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: So I don't ingest every PFL broadcast, but is that

1286
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: capable for the is that a things network? I CA, yeah, well,

1287
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: I don't watch every PFL broadcast, but to me, what

1288
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 4: Tadabu c did is one of the best knockouts I've

1289
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 4: seen in twenty twenty three. Is that not like a

1290
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: knockout of the year candidate BP hundred percent? And especially

1291
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 4: that he called his shot too right. I mean, that's

1292
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: such a great technique and he called it. He's like,

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00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: I want to go viral. He started to get confident.

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 5: Like Kenny said, I watched this guy in his PFL debut, uh,

1295
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 5: since he started in PFL, and I'm like, man, he's

1296
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 5: so afraid of the takedowns. He can't let his striking

1297
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 5: go because he's so sick on the striking. Then he

1298
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 5: stopped the takedowns and he's like, okay, let's get flowy

1299
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 5: because he's got so many weapons on the feet. He's

1300
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 5: really fun to watch. He's someone really easy to root

1301
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 5: for as well. Such a sick knockout, definitely top five

1302
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 5: candidate of the year, and just an overall performance as well.

1303
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 5: I mean, he was on point that night. It was awesome.

1304
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, BP, thank you, I buried the lead. He called that,

1305
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: yeah exactly, Yeah, he said, I want a viral knockout

1306
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: for this one and he goes does it? I mean,

1307
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: that's not easy to do.

1308
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 4: And my guy Clay calling right getting it done over

1309
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: Stevie Ray by TKO thirty one g's to show another

1310
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 4: thirty one thousand to win. So happy to see Clay

1311
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 4: Collard continue to realize success. Stevie Ray's a good egg too.

1312
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 4: I enjoyed covering his UFC career and Olivier Obama Mercia

1313
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: ken Flow perhaps the biggest success story in terms of

1314
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 4: UFC guys coming to the PFL. I mean, obviously there

1315
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 4: are millionaires like Sean O'Connell out there, but uh oam man,

1316
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 4: I mean, just continues to evolve and a huge knockout

1317
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 4: with that knee over Anthony Romero.

1318
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: Just continues to get better and better man. And now

1319
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: he's blending the aggression and killer instinct with his tactics

1320
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: and strategy now and it's great to see he's. Uh,

1321
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: he's a beast first of fall, as big as a welterweight,

1322
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: and the way he puts it all together and how

1323
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: he gets you to fight his fight is unlike anything

1324
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: I've seen in a long time, just you know, as

1325
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: far as using his overall skill set. It's uh, he's

1326
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 2: high level man. He's fighting at extremely high level right now,

1327
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: and it's great to see him get finishes as well.

1328
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: All right, big weekend for the PFL and also the UFC.

1329
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, like, do I go Chefe modesca

1330
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 4: whiffle tattoo on my chest if he wins.

1331
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: The World Fighter. I don't think.

1332
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 4: I don't think I want that tattoo, but watching if

1333
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 4: you get that skin fade, man, I might get your face.

1334
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: Tattooed on my body if you win the title.

1335
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 4: Kenny, I do think later time you have to watch

1336
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 4: Chefe Modest and I will say too. You know, like

1337
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 4: his mom died on his birthday last year, and I

1338
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 4: know a quick turn there, but I just want to

1339
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 4: bring it up because I was gonna to try to

1340
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: book Chepe this week, but when we moved the show

1341
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: up to Monday, I drove back from Walt Disney World

1342
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 4: today because one of my kids got really sick.

1343
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: I didn't have time to book him.

1344
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 4: But his mom died on his birthday last year, and

1345
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 4: there was a time where a lot of people in

1346
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 4: Chepe's inner circle wanted him to get out of fighting,

1347
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 4: and we talked about the strength of schedule a lot

1348
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: of early career losses to elite eyes, and his mom

1349
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 4: was always like, you can't quit now, You've come this farly.

1350
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: You got to stay with it and not awesome.

1351
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: Get chepe Modesca right now, love it all right.

1352
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 4: We do have a pronunciation of the week before we

1353
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 4: get into the main event challenge Briy and oh you're

1354
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 4: gonna love the updated standings when we get there, so

1355
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 4: don't worry too. We're pronunciation of the week. But this

1356
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 4: fighter will welcome Kevin Lee back to the UFC this weekend.

1357
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 4: He's won nineteen in a row. He's twenty and one

1358
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 4: overall and two and zero in the UFC with wins

1359
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 4: over Andreas Mikhailitis and Brian Battle. He is a welterweight

1360
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: competing live on ESPN in the Future of Prelim against

1361
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: Kevin Lee this weekend. Brian Petrie of whom am I speaking?

1362
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 5: I never plugged my own shell because John does such

1363
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 5: a wonderful job doing that.

1364
01:02:59,160 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: But if you want to.

1365
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 5: See me butcher every name on the cards, Kevin Lee hopover.

1366
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: Everybody takes podcasts on YouTube.

1367
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 5: We're trying to get fourteen hundred anyway, the guy you

1368
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 5: were talking about, and I gotta get out of my

1369
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 5: head because the first name's thrown me off. We're gonna

1370
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 5: go Reno fock redanoff.

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01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: Let's hear how he says, Hi, my name is. Are

1372
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: he not gladiatordinof my name? Are he not Gladiator?

1373
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: Very close?

1374
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really close.

1375
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 5: First name threw me off because I want I initially

1376
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 5: want to go ree or rye not or whatever because

1377
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 5: the eye and I go no, reverse brain, left brain,

1378
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 5: right brain, whatever.

1379
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, we got close. We got close close. Kno

1380
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: good enough. Incidentally, Brian mitri pos and two on the pronunciation.

1381
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 4: Of the week, but you did nail fok Redenov, and

1382
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 4: I did have to play that file for my daughter

1383
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 4: today because he really hits that fuck right.

1384
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: It's like fuck, it's not f u c k, but

1385
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: fuck Redinov.

1386
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 4: Renot take it on Kevin Lee this weekend and that'll

1387
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 4: be the first fight we pick, but not before we

1388
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 4: update Stan.

1389
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: Dude, I need it, I need it.

1390
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 4: Let's go, and Brian Petree and I may not be

1391
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 4: cracking empty beer bottles our heads at year's end when

1392
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 4: all is said and done. Our fearless leader Kenny Florian

1393
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 4: came in minus twenty dollars on the year. It's a

1394
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 4: tough luck one in five on the day that included

1395
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 4: a three unit stinger on Amanda he Boss. So it's

1396
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 4: a minus nine hundred and thirty dollars week. Kenny now

1397
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 4: minus nine hundred and fifty dollars on the bar. Brian

1398
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 4: Petrie started the week minus twenty seven hundred and eighty dollars.

1399
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 4: He had his biggest week of the year seven to

1400
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 4: one that included underdog hits on David Oama and Macy Barber,

1401
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 4: a five unit whack on Ilio Toportia, and an additional

1402
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: underdog play on Jack Jenkins at plus one point forty

1403
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 4: against Jamal Emmers. Six picks for Ken Flow versus eight

1404
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: for Petrie because Ken Flow abstained on Brendan Allen versus

1405
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 4: Bruno Silva, and Kenny did not give out an additional

1406
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 4: prelim pick. So Brian Petrie, the floor is yours. Congrat

1407
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 4: on a seven and one week. We got a ball game.

1408
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 5: Yes, I listen, I know better than anyone there's hides

1409
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 5: and lows in this game. I could go one and

1410
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 5: seven next week. I'm not going to trash talk Kenny.

1411
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 5: I've seen him elbow people in the face. I don't

1412
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 5: want that to happen. Okay, but it was a good week.

1413
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 5: I had a good week into my personal bank account

1414
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 5: as well. A loyal guy who follows this show and

1415
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 5: other shows won ten k on a parlay and he

1416
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 5: spread at the Love Your Boy's Way, So that was generous.

1417
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 5: Didn't expect that. Try to give it back to him,

1418
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 5: he refuse. But yeah, overall, it's a good week. You know,

1419
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 5: it's a good week, and I'm feeling pretty good. I'm sitting,

1420
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 5: tall boys, I'm sitting.

1421
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: So what are the numbers right now?

1422
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 3: All right?

1423
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 4: So the one thing I failed to do and we

1424
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 4: had a crazy night, right, I had a kid just

1425
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 4: puke it all night.

1426
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: So I've been up since like three o'clock in the

1427
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: morning and then for three hours. I'm full of excuses today.

1428
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 4: Maybe why I kind of went a little bit hard

1429
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 4: in the paint on Longgo earlier.

1430
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm losing to the listenership one show at a time.

1431
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 4: So no, for Brian Petrie, I had you and I'm

1432
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 4: sure or you'll correct me if I'm wrong. Plus eleven

1433
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 4: seventy five.

1434
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,479
Speaker 2: On those sounds about right. Right, Johnny. I mean, that's

1435
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: what very significant.

1436
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 4: So he is minus sixteen oh five and we got

1437
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 4: a whole new ball game.

1438
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 5: And Kenny's minus nine to fifty. Okay, we can play

1439
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 5: with that. I'm just trying to play with that.

1440
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 4: Things have gotten so much more interesting. I know the

1441
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 4: folks at the DraftKings Network are very excited that things

1442
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 4: have tightened up. So let us spin things forward to

1443
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 4: is UFC Fight Night Strickland versus Mago Medov live from

1444
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 4: the Ufcapex this weekend, and we will begin in that

1445
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 4: welterweight division with Reina Fokwardino minus two oho five against

1446
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 4: Kevin Lee plus one seventy five. So Brian, Kevin Lee

1447
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 4: back in the big show after that just one fight

1448
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 4: with Eagle f C in which he beat Diego Sanchez.

1449
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 4: That was March eleventh of twenty twenty two. It was

1450
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 4: at one hundred and sixty five pounds. He had lost

1451
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 4: four of five in the UFC before that departure. Now

1452
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 4: he's back your thoughts.

1453
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 5: Interesting that he kind of to me a guy who

1454
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 5: follows everything, sliding on the radar signing with the UFC.

1455
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 2: Right, this is the guy who main evented.

1456
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 5: This guy fought Tony Fergus for the interim, and he's

1457
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 5: now kind of placed weirdly on this car not you know,

1458
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 5: not a lot of people talking about it, which is

1459
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 5: interesting because the guy's a star. In my opinion, I

1460
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 5: loved me some Kevin Lee. Biggest problem with Kevin Lee

1461
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 5: in mine. He's still young. But the biggest problem was

1462
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 5: in the day was a little bit of cardio issues,

1463
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 5: a little bit of arrogant issues.

1464
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: I think maybe some out out of the cage issues. Whatever.

1465
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 5: Looks like he's fixing it up, but he fought in

1466
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 5: egofc with like a blown out knee. The guy's got toughness.

1467
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 5: The guy got hard. The guy stepped in potholes in

1468
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 5: many fights. I mean, remember the spinning wheel kick on Barbos.

1469
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 5: I mean, this guy's got a ton of heart. And

1470
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 5: I looked at his status and not a lot of

1471
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 5: people can out wrapple this guy. They just can't halfield.

1472
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 5: Assimiel's laying at four takedowns on them, but he layed

1473
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 5: at six. I know he got submitted in that fight.

1474
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 5: But everything I've heard about Kevin Lee is he's such

1475
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 5: a stud in the gym. He's so good in the gym,

1476
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 5: he got fuck gardin Off here, who came in and

1477
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 5: just butchered Brian Battle, didn't get a finish. Brian Battle's

1478
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 5: still a little young in the tooth. And if you

1479
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 5: look at Fuckerino's record leading into the UFC, he's looked dominant,

1480
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 5: but against so so competition, some Eastern European guys that

1481
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 5: are you know, who knows what they're doing.

1482
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: Now, Kevin Lee's felt the best of the best. Has

1483
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: he lost? Yes? Has he may invent it? Yes? Plus

1484
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: one seventy.

1485
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,479
Speaker 5: Five against a guy who I think Fuckerdinov's not gonna

1486
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 5: taken Lee down.

1487
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna throw big shots.

1488
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 5: I think Kevin Lee's gonna get back to his kicking again,

1489
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 5: get back to his hands he can throw out of volume.

1490
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 5: People are forgetting that he slept Gregor gy Lefski, one

1491
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 5: of the best at kick knockouts wall I've ever seen.

1492
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: Gimme Kevin Lee at the Dog Prize.

1493
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 5: He's gonna re introduce himself to the UFC fans this week,

1494
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 5: and I think I think a lot of money's gonna

1495
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 5: be on fucker deen Off. He is a guy you

1496
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 5: know that people are looking at. But gimme Kevin Lee

1497
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 5: to his dog, gare.

1498
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 4: I like that, and me and you are gonna sleep

1499
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 4: Ken Flow and Cody Merraw with beer bottles that are

1500
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 4: empty when they lose this main event challenge if you

1501
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 4: keep swinging them the way you did last week. Kevin

1502
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 4: Lee still just thirty years of age plus one seventy five. Here,

1503
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 4: had the Charles Lavera fight right before COVID obviously, then

1504
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 4: the Daniel Rodriguez fight. I think there was an adderall

1505
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 4: issue there, then the fight with Diego Sanchez, and now

1506
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 4: he's back against Gardina. But grant it hasn't fought the schedule,

1507
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 4: but nineteen in a row in modern day mma is

1508
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 4: not nothing, right, Hey.

1509
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 2: Listen, maybe my confidence is low, maybe I'm trying not

1510
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: to let my hands go, but you know, like just

1511
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: worried about the takedown here, but I like, I like

1512
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: fuck redin Off here, I really do. And listen, I

1513
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 2: think he actually is going to take it down Kevin Lee.

1514
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 2: I think trying to defend takedowns against Renatt is going

1515
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: to be very difficult. Up against the cage, I think Kevin,

1516
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: I think needs to get going offensively. If he's able

1517
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: to do that, get his striking and keep renatt on

1518
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: the outside. I think, yeah, he could definitely win that fight.

1519
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,480
Speaker 2: I think there's absolute value there. But just watching Funckridin

1520
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: off that I hate it because everybody always makes the

1521
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: same comparison. There's definite a lot, definitely a lot of

1522
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 2: hibib nor Maga medaw fives on his end. The way

1523
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: that he sets up his his takedowns. You know, he's

1524
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: just good enough to get you in on your legs.

1525
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: He's so good. Once he gets top control, you get

1526
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: back to you feet, he pulls you right back down

1527
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 2: to the mat again. He's just a nuisance on the ground.

1528
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: So I think that he'll be able to stay out

1529
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: of trouble when it comes to the striking game. Get

1530
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: enough respect from Kevin Lee on the feet, get in

1531
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: on those legs, and if he gets Kevin lead down

1532
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: just once, okay, maybe twice, I think he could finish

1533
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: this fight. Kevin is not known for his ground game.

1534
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: On bottom, I think he's good if he gets on top,

1535
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 2: But on bottom, I think is where Kevin is going

1536
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: to struggle, especially against a ConTroll monster like fock grodinof

1537
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: so uh yeah, give me Nat.

1538
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 4: Nice, Why did you shave your beard? That is probably

1539
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 4: as short as it's been an eight year history of

1540
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 4: the show. What led to the decision to shave the

1541
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 4: beard and not just trimmle.

1542
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 2: After a while, you know, I just kind of like

1543
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 2: make sure that my face is like staying clean, so

1544
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: like I'll like to scrub it down, you know, like

1545
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: get it up. You know, I'm just a yeah, just start. Yeah,

1546
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 2: I get itchy every one, So I'm like, I've gotta

1547
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: shave it and just got to reset, maybe get some

1548
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 2: sun out there.

1549
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 4: We'll see nice DC's assistant though, Daniel Cormi's assistant, Cassandra Clark,

1550
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 4: oftentimes will text me on a Monday we do the

1551
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 4: show like oh clean shave and it's like, dude, I'll

1552
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 4: have a full beard by Friday. You'll see back and

1553
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 4: everywhere else. All right, let us move on to the

1554
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 4: main card opener and middleweight Good time to remind you

1555
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 4: it's Bruno Fajeda right ken flow because we got the

1556
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 4: two rs versus Alex Paeda with just failed. So Bruno

1557
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 4: Fajeda minus won sixty five. Abdul Razach Alhassen is plus

1558
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 4: one forty. FAA had a memorable UFC debut largely while

1559
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 4: we're picking this fight today. Knocked out Gregory Rodriguez at

1560
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: UFC two eighty three. Brian that was back in the

1561
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 4: Rio in January. He's tenor was a pro. Came off

1562
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 4: season six of the Contender series. Now we see what

1563
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 4: he has for Al Hassen, who has found a better

1564
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:44,879
Speaker 4: form than he had a couple.

1565
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 2: Of years ago. What are your thoughts on this one?

1566
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: At eighty five kid just a banger, bang city, Bang time.

1567
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 5: Bruno Ferrara is a guy I hit a big underdog

1568
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 5: with early this year when he knocked out RoboCop. You

1569
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 5: know there was a fight he was losing. Knock him

1570
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 5: on the first round. This guy knocks people out in

1571
01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 5: the first round. What does he look like in the

1572
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 5: second and was here looking at a third round?

1573
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. A Hassen is usually pretty sturdy.

1574
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 5: I mean, Chaos William's got him, but he's also got

1575
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 5: big power, and he's got a judo game to him

1576
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 5: as well, and he kind of can mix it up.

1577
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 5: There's a lot more questions with Bruno than a Hasen,

1578
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take Ahasen. I like him by finished,

1579
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 5: probably in the second or third round. Maybe as his

1580
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 5: fight gets extended, Bruno can prove me wrong, be a

1581
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 5: one hit wonder, be a one round knockout guys whole career.

1582
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 5: But I think if he gets extended, this could get

1583
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 5: interesting because we just haven't seen it yet. You know,

1584
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 5: Let's see what this kid's got. I'm willing to go

1585
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 5: on Hassen here to make sure we'll see what Frere's got.

1586
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 4: And the one thing about our main event challenge that

1587
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 4: is tricky with you guys picking a lot of these fights,

1588
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 4: is that you really pay the price on favorite, you know,

1589
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: like I don't know there. I feel like if I

1590
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 4: was involved, I would be incentivized heavily to pick underdogs

1591
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 4: because you're only losing a hundred bucks, Whereas you know,

1592
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 4: Rena fuck Redinov loses, you know it, losing two hundred

1593
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 4: and five bucks. But I digress.

1594
01:12:56,439 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 2: It just has a little nuggets the confidence.

1595
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 4: So al Hassen had a knockout of Claudio Hibbero a

1596
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 4: week before Fajita's winning January. He's now won two of

1597
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 4: three and it seems as though for him it's going

1598
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 4: to be middleweight from here on out. What are your

1599
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 4: thoughts on him here against the undefeated Bruno Fajeda.

1600
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is interesting, man. You know, I think Abdul

1601
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: Razak al Hassen, you know, he definitely has his issues

1602
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: on the ground. I think that's where he's always, you know,

1603
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: uh struggled. And if you get a guy like Fajita

1604
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: on top of you, uh, he's got some of the

1605
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 2: best ground and pound I've seen in a long time.

1606
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,759
Speaker 2: He does not screw around when he gets that top position.

1607
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: He is absolutely nasty, uses great position to utilize that

1608
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 2: that ground and pound. Now can't he get down al

1609
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: Hassen consistently? I don't know. I'm a little hesitant and

1610
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: going with the Hada, but I'm gonna go with him.

1611
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 2: I think that him getting that win over robot RoboCop,

1612
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 2: I think was huge. I think that, you know, it

1613
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: showed that you have to respect him on the feet

1614
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: as well. He definitely has some power. He's not the

1615
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 2: most technical guy, most skillful guy on the feet, So

1616
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 2: I could see al Hassen maybe getting a t K

1617
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: or knocked out there on the feet. But I think

1618
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 2: the Hada is going to come into his own, get

1619
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: his rhythm, eventually find a way to put al Haasen

1620
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: on his back, and you know, either get a submission

1621
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: or t kal there.

1622
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 4: We love the disagreement opposite sides on the first two

1623
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 4: selections this week. Moving on now to lightweight, one of

1624
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 4: the Bonfime brothers is back and said to be showcase

1625
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 4: here in Vegas is my ol bon Fieme Monus three

1626
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 4: fifteen against ben Was sant Denis, who comes back plus

1627
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 4: two sixty. So Brian sant deny Man may forever be

1628
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 4: remembered for just that feeding He endured in his UFC

1629
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 4: debut against Eli Zae's Aleski Dos Santos, but responded in

1630
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 4: kind right to stoppage wins both in twenty twenty two.

1631
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 4: Your thoughts on him here plus two sixty against the

1632
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 4: talented Ismail Bondfeet Yeah h.

1633
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: Then on st Denie, which is a name I just

1634
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: love to say, you know what I mean?

1635
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 5: Uh, this guy's tough, right, he's he's nails. But his

1636
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: wins I rewatched him today and they're just like, yeah,

1637
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 5: they're good, but they're early and.

1638
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 2: I want to see more of them, you know what

1639
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean?

1640
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 5: Low volume, big power bombind though him and his brother,

1641
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 5: and apparently this guy is labeled the better brother according

1642
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 5: to experts. He looked great against Sarius McKenny, Terres McKenny.

1643
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 5: He's got break in his hands. He was not afraid

1644
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 5: at all. That knee was incredible. He's really good on

1645
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 5: the ground. St DENI likes to take the fight to

1646
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 5: the ground when he can. He's a strong guy for

1647
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 5: this weight. But Bomfree I think is skilled everywhere. If

1648
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 5: he wasn't this high, I would go chips to the middle.

1649
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 5: But I'm playing a little conservative. You know, your boy,

1650
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 5: I don't want to get a big head, so give

1651
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 5: me Bomfree here. No chips in the middle yet, but yeah,

1652
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 5: I think Boonfree wins it. I probably a decision because

1653
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 5: Saint Denis is so tough, but I wouldn't be surprised

1654
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 5: at his finishing there.

1655
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah see, now you can just sort of lay back

1656
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 2: in the cup a little bit because yeah, a little bit.

1657
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 4: Ken flow is smile. Bon Fieme Monastery fifteen, Ben Los

1658
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 4: Santony plus two sixty.

1659
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: Who do you like? Yeah? I thought it was a

1660
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: great breakdown by BP. You know, I think the one

1661
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: thing that I'll add that really sticks out for me

1662
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 2: in this matchup is the athleticism of bon Fime. I

1663
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 2: don't think Santany is no slouch, and his toughness has

1664
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: been proven. Like as you mentioned that do Santos fight,

1665
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: But Bonfime, the way that he moves, the way that

1666
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: he can recognize certain things, you know, it kind of

1667
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: reminds me a little bit of Tilpori. The way he

1668
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 2: can get in and get out. He's very good at

1669
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: landing shots, getting exiting properly, assessing what's going on. He'll

1670
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 2: look at you and then he'll finish you off if

1671
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: he sees it. I don't know if he can get

1672
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: a finish against Santony, but if he does, I mean,

1673
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm all in on this kid. I think bonfme his

1674
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: athleticism to me is the X factor here in this one,

1675
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna be tough for St. Denis

1676
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 2: to contend with him in that realm. All right, both

1677
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 2: guys like Bonfime.

1678
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 4: Right now minus three fifteen on Draftking Sportsbook, halfway through

1679
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 4: the main event challenge. Good time to remind you that

1680
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 4: these guys can expand their bets up to a maximum

1681
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 4: five unit play. They can also abstain from making one selection,

1682
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 4: and they also can pick any fight that we don't

1683
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 4: force them to choose. All right, Next up, at Flywaight.

1684
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 4: We'll lead with Petri on this one once again, but

1685
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 4: we're coming for Kenvilo later.

1686
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: Don't you worry, Bright, It's all good fly Way.

1687
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 4: Melissa Gatto midus two hundred versus Ariantie Lipski plus one seventy.

1688
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 4: Lipsky one of a select few fighters who has been

1689
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 4: welcomed to Amanda Noonz's Lions Studio. I saw her there

1690
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, working her ass off. She's

1691
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 4: been a little bit on even in the UFC Bride

1692
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 4: More and five the UFC Ledger, but she has one

1693
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 4: two or three. Got past JJ Aldridge back in March

1694
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 4: and turning around quickly here.

1695
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, the fight with j. J Aldris was great. I

1696
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 5: mean JJ Alders is a huge favorite. Lipsky look great.

1697
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 5: Problem with this fight is and is what is going

1698
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 5: to be Lipsky's achilles heel is she get she gets

1699
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 5: taken down and she can't get off her back. Look

1700
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 5: at a Montana de la Rosa fight Montena dela Rosa,

1701
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 5: a great grappler, takes her down, can't get up finish

1702
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 5: the Melissa Gatto goes through a lot of takedowns. She's

1703
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 5: good on her feet, as well, but she's aggressive with

1704
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 5: the takedown she gets on top.

1705
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: Could there be finished? I don't know.

1706
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 5: Lipski training with Roger Crohl and all those guys with

1707
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 5: a man Newnz, you know she's going to be better.

1708
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 5: But I like Gatto here again, the number minus two hundred.

1709
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 5: I think it's playable. Women's MMA is a little influx

1710
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 5: some times, so I don't know if I'm a getting

1711
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 5: pushing my chips in the middle, but I'm pretty confident

1712
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 5: in Lissigato to get a takedown, to get a finished

1713
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 5: from the ground, some kind of submission, some kind of tiko.

1714
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Messigatto.

1715
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 4: Kenny Gotto the two to one favorite here. Only pro

1716
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 4: loss came in her last fight all the way back

1717
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 4: in May of twenty twenty two, Tracy Cortes UFC two

1718
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 4: seventy four. Gatto the chuck selection here against Sarriani Lipsky.

1719
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: Which way going? Yeah, you know we've mentioned it before.

1720
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: You know, Brian did a great breakdown. I don't want

1721
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 2: to have to add a whole lot, but it takes

1722
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 2: a long time to get your grappling in order, and

1723
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 2: I think that's where Gotto is going to have the

1724
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: big advantage here, so give me Gatto again going very

1725
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 2: chalky here, guys, that's okay, all right. We will lead

1726
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 2: with Ken Flow on this one.

1727
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 4: Three Picks to Go featured battle welterweight and it features

1728
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 4: Michael Morales minus two to thirty. Max Griffin comes back

1729
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 4: plus one ninety five, So Ecuador's Morales. People forget because

1730
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 4: he hasn't fought since that TKO of Adam Fugen at

1731
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 4: UFC two seventy seven last July, but he's been on

1732
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 4: two big cards to pay per view cards. He has

1733
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 4: performed on both of them now back in the Apex

1734
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 4: where he competed in one on Dana Wet's Contender series.

1735
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 4: He's still just twenty four fourteen. And oh he was

1736
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 4: supposed to face your boy Renat Fochordinov last December. Must

1737
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 4: have been forced out because Renat did compete that night

1738
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 4: and beat Brian Battle. Pretty big price here, Ken Flow

1739
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 4: on Michael Morales against the UFC tested Max Griffin.

1740
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this one at one hundred and seventy pounds, Yeah,

1741
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: this is a tough one. Max has a ton of

1742
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: experience and there's certain fights where I think he looks

1743
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 2: awesome and there's certain fights from like, man, it's something's off,

1744
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 2: something's going on. It could be injuries or whatever. But

1745
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, I think that Max at his best gives

1746
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: Morales a tough time. Why because Morales is still young

1747
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: in the game. You know, he's literally young, but still

1748
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 2: young in the game in some ways. But dude, I

1749
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: love the way he moves even before, like his before

1750
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 2: he was in the UFC, you could see that he

1751
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 2: was UFC ready. He's tall for the VISI like lanky,

1752
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: the way he puts it all together. He's aggressive, but

1753
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: smart and calculated. I think the sky's the limit for

1754
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: this kid, Morales, I really do. I like the way

1755
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 2: he puts it all together, and I think that skill wise,

1756
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: he's the better fighter. You know, maybe athletic wise he's

1757
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: the better fighter. I don't know. If he's stronger. I

1758
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: think Max will be a little bit stronger. Max is

1759
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: going to be able to, you know, have that veteran

1760
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 2: experience to maybe make some rounds close or steal some rounds.

1761
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of value on Max Griffin here.

1762
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: This was maybe the toughest one for me to pick,

1763
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: but I'll stick with Morales. I'll reserve the right to

1764
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 2: maybe change the pick if I see something, but I

1765
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm high on morales Man. I like what

1766
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 2: I've seen so far.

1767
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's spot on analysis as far as I'm concerned.

1768
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 4: He's one of the best prospects in the UFC, and

1769
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 4: I think that's reflective in johnny Vello's price on the

1770
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 4: DraftKings Sportsbook application right now. So Max Griffin nineteen to

1771
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 4: nine overall, briy with is seven and seven in the

1772
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 4: UFC now, could easily, as you know, be eight and

1773
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 4: six or better. If you were in the building for

1774
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 4: that fight against Neil Magne and Columbus Ohio last year.

1775
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 4: A lot of people thought he deserved that nod, and

1776
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 4: had he gotten that decision, he'd be in the top twelve.

1777
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 4: He'd be on a five fight winning streak. I mean,

1778
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 4: that absolutely killed it. And he did come back and

1779
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 4: beat Timmy Mean's business last October, but that was a

1780
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 4: tough one for Max Griffin. So instead of being a

1781
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 4: rank contender, he's taken on Michael morales here. What are

1782
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 4: your thoughts on this one?

1783
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old Chess X ray of Max Griffin will

1784
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: have just dogs all in there. That's a dog I

1785
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: mean that's what he is.

1786
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 5: I mean this is a lose your money fight. Because

1787
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 5: I like Michael Morales too. I like what I've seen

1788
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 5: it has. I mean, he's won last two fights by knockout,

1789
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 5: but it wasn't like he's been been He's been hit.

1790
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 2: He's been tested in those short fights. He went through it.

1791
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,799
Speaker 5: And his movement's great, his length is great. Max's biggest

1792
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 5: problem is he gets hit. I see him closing the

1793
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 5: distance here, clinch fighting. I don't think he's gonna land

1794
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 5: too many takedowns. I think Morales might land some takedowns.

1795
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 5: Max is a big, strong dude. He fights dirty on

1796
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 5: the inside. You know, he busts that dude's ear off

1797
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,839
Speaker 5: his head that one time. That's like his grimy style.

1798
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 5: So I can see him stifling Morales here. But I

1799
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 5: think Morales taking some time off. I think he's maturing

1800
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 5: into his body. Those long guys are hard. I mean

1801
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 5: they're they're the leverage alone. They're they're stronger than you think.

1802
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 5: And I think he's gonna have a little bit harder

1803
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 5: in the clinch than then Max is probably expecting on

1804
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 5: the feet if at distance, I mean, Morales has all

1805
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 5: the tools I'm high on Morales as well. Give me

1806
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 5: Morales another chalk selection. I'm just gonna follow Kenny just

1807
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 5: so I don't I don't slip up, but uh no,

1808
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 5: give me Morales.

1809
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: I do like this kid a lot. He's very very talented. Yeah,

1810
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: don't screw this something out kid. You're back, can't.

1811
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 4: I can't back in business like co headliner demir Is

1812
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 4: Magoulab Modu one thirty grand Dawson plus one ten. So

1813
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 4: here's a quote from Ismagoulav in January. Brou dude, a

1814
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 4: certain stances and health problems, I am forced to end

1815
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 4: my sports career. He has postpone that retirement, and that

1816
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 4: is a very good sign in terms of his health.

1817
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 4: He had won nineteen in a row before he was

1818
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 4: outpointed by the credentialed armand Salukion last December. On the

1819
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 4: other side, he got Grant Dawson with plus a plus

1820
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 4: number next to his name nineteen one and one overall,

1821
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 4: submitted Marco mattson his last time out. That made him

1822
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 4: seven to zero to one on the Big Show. Certainly

1823
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 4: that move to American top team has paid dividends for

1824
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,839
Speaker 4: Grand Dawson plus one ten here against demir Is macgoulaw

1825
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 4: Brian Petree, Who do you like in the coomain?

1826
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 2: So I hate when a fighter.

1827
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what the health issue was,

1828
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 5: but he's one foot out one foot and now he's back.

1829
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 5: You know, he has won some fights by the skin

1830
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 5: of his teeth as well.

1831
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 2: Great career outside the UFC.

1832
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 5: His old topology Piccher here like fucking fifty belts, Like,

1833
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 5: this guy's accompliced, right, And I faded grand Dawson pretty

1834
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 5: much his whole career. I don't really love his stand up,

1835
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 5: but then he goes out there not wrestles Mark Madsen

1836
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 5: is a silver medal Olympus and submits him. He goes

1837
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 5: out there and he's just a big guy. And he

1838
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 5: goes out there there any muscles, dous down and he's

1839
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 5: heavy on top. He's good on the ground. Can you

1840
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 5: do that against is mcgooloff. Possibly, And when you got

1841
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 5: a one foot in one fight out fighter, well, I

1842
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 5: think could dominate on the feet. And I think grand

1843
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 5: Dawson working with that great team is going to hopefully

1844
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 5: work his stand up to get it to the ground.

1845
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: You got to mix everything together.

1846
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 5: This is mixed marstal ards you're hanging a plus one

1847
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 5: ten on a guy always faded.

1848
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take that.

1849
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 5: You know what this play it safe bullshit is. And

1850
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 5: for me, not my cond not my cup of tea.

1851
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 5: Give me two units on grand Dawson, not the underdog price, babe, let's.

1852
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 4: Go alright, A two unit trigger on Grant Dawson by

1853
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 4: Brian Patrie at plus one ten, So that is two

1854
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 4: hundred dollars to yield to twenty ken flow.

1855
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 2: Will you have any action on the comin eventser? I will. Yeah,

1856
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 2: this is a tough one, man, I think I think

1857
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: Dawson has made big strides in regards to connecting his

1858
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 2: wrestling with his jiu jitsu and you know, getting guys

1859
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 2: to the ground in a more efficient manner. It was

1860
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: evident that anyways in his last fight. But Maguloff's a

1861
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: good wrestler, man. I think it's he's not gonna He's

1862
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: not going to give up those takedowns easily. I think that, uh,

1863
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 2: you know, that fight against armand Serukon exposed a lot

1864
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: of things in some ways, right, and where hopefully he's

1865
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: looking at that and going, Okay, this is where I

1866
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 2: need to shore up my my defenses and this and that,

1867
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't necessarily see Grant Dawson

1868
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: doing the same thing that Sarukon did. But he is

1869
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 2: a different fighter. I think that he's much more of

1870
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: a submission threat. And if he does get the back,

1871
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: is mcgouloff's going to be in trouble. I just don't

1872
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: see him getting there or getting there for for long enough.

1873
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: I think is mcgouloff is going to find a way

1874
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: to utilize that reach, keep Dawson on the outside, fight

1875
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: off those takedowns and and and win by decision.

1876
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 4: Here why ken Flull likes demir Is Magoula minus one

1877
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 4: thirty and that brings us to the main event. These

1878
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 4: guys are forced to predict every main event per Arizona

1879
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 4: diamondback Evan Longoria. So it's Sean Strickland minus one seventy

1880
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 4: five a boost, Mago medal plus one fifty Kenny. Any

1881
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 4: familiarity for you with Mago meta from the PFL. I

1882
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 4: know he did fight sadabu Ci. I believe was that

1883
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 4: before your time? That was before my time? Oka sure,

1884
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 4: so here he gets a main event slot. Now he's

1885
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 4: a finisher. Did have some fights canceled this year against

1886
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,480
Speaker 4: Gerald Murchard and then Mack mood Mourodov in February March, respectively,

1887
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 4: and I believe it was a Murodov injury. So he's

1888
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 4: being elevated here against Sean Strickland Bry who has headlined

1889
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 4: four of his last five. Now he's won three of

1890
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 4: those right good five Rown Style three and one in

1891
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 4: UFC main events, getting a fifth one here below two

1892
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 4: to one. What are your thoughts on Strickland against the

1893
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 4: credential but less show a boos Mago medovs.

1894
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a head scratcher for a lot of

1895
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 5: people that Maga Metta have got this slot here. I mean,

1896
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 5: he looked great in his debut, big big knockout against

1897
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:51,919
Speaker 5: a low level competition.

1898
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,799
Speaker 2: I watched all his PFL career.

1899
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 5: He has good striking, he's long, he's got those long arms,

1900
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 5: grapplings on point. He didn get knocked out by Lewis Taylor,

1901
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 5: who's primarily a grappler, So that kind of is in

1902
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 5: my head though, even though Sean Strickland is not the

1903
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 5: biggest puncher Sean Strickland, though this guy doesn't do strength.

1904
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 5: In addition, he fights. That's what he spars one hundred

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Speaker 5: rounds like. It's nuts, old school style and that's why

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Speaker 5: he's so comfortable in there. His style is a little weird,

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Speaker 5: chin up hands, kind of weird position, but it works

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Speaker 5: for him, right, and volume and volume and volume is

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Speaker 5: what is what's gonna win him this fight. I like

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Speaker 5: Sean Tricklin big here. I like him to just drown

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Speaker 5: a boost later in this fight. I mean, obviously Sean's

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Speaker 5: been caught before. He's got knocked out Pereira, He's been

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Speaker 5: knocked out by Alesis Docentos a while, got one seventy.

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Speaker 5: It's never been taking down one hundred and eighty five pounds.

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Speaker 5: Sean Strickland that his takedown offense has always been known

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Speaker 5: to be great. He could make some takedowns in himself.

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Speaker 5: I doubt that's gonna happen. I just see volume volume,

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Speaker 5: volume drowned them. Wouldn't be surprised if we get a

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Speaker 5: late round finished, if if MAGA madef has zero gas tank.

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Speaker 5: But I like Strickling by decision here. Pretty confident as well, Kenny.

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Speaker 4: Sean Stricklan minus won seventy five a boost Mago Medal

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Speaker 4: plus one point fifty. Yeah, this is an interesting one because,

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Speaker 4: you know, like what Brian alluded to, it never gives

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Speaker 4: me great confidence when I see Strickland go out there

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Speaker 4: and compete, just because he always seems vulnerable to eating

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Speaker 4: a shot. His hands are quite low, you know, his

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Speaker 4: chin up in the air. But he makes it work,

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Speaker 4: he really does.

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Speaker 2: And also you know, having a great chin and being

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Speaker 2: tough as nails definitely helps. But yeah, so I think

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Speaker 2: it really does come down to whether his style is

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Speaker 2: going to hold up against someone like Mago Medoff. I

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Speaker 2: think that it certainly can. You know, experiencing that level

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Speaker 2: of pressure and pace and volume can definitely wear on you,

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Speaker 2: and Strickland can definitely do that for twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: And I think and a guy in Mago Medoff who

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Speaker 2: hasn't had those big fights, hasn't had high level competition,

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Speaker 2: I think it might overwhelm him. Or he's good enough,

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Speaker 2: like you showed in his last flight that he does

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Speaker 2: land one of those shots and finishes him off. He

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Speaker 2: might be that good. But for me, I want to

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Speaker 2: see that consistently against good competition, and I just haven't

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Speaker 2: seen it. I can only go on based on what

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Speaker 2: I've seen, and I like Strickland here as well. All right,

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Speaker 2: both guys like Sean Strickland.

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Speaker 4: He could be had right now minus one seventy five

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Speaker 4: Brian Petrie, before we let you fly any remaining preliminary selections.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't have one because the two guys

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Speaker 5: that I like, I like Gouram Guzalate and I like

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Speaker 5: Johannes and Britto. They're both minus five hundred minus eight

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Speaker 5: hundred probably, so that's not worth giving out. Put them

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Speaker 5: together a little parlay, a couple of unis were good,

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Speaker 5: but as far as a selection, no, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't have one.

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Speaker 4: And if you want me to sort of widen the

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Speaker 4: scope of the main event challenge in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 4: to allow you in this instance to do a two legger,

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Speaker 4: we could talk about that on the other.

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Speaker 2: Line, but sure, sure, sure.

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Speaker 4: For now it's MMA Takes podcast if you want that

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Speaker 4: noise and on social media at Brian Petrie MMA much love, brother.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for all the support privately and otherwise this weekend.

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Speaker 2: You're the man.

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Speaker 4: We will talk to you in advance of the big one.

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Speaker 4: You know what it is, UFC two ninety in a week.

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Speaker 5: Thanks boys, Johnny here Soldier for doing this but I

1967
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Speaker 5: know you've had a hell of a day.

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Speaker 4: But thanks boys, you too, my man, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Brian Petree with us for the main event to challenge

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Speaker 4: all right. One thing that i just wanted to say

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Speaker 4: in closing, I'm just going to take sixty seconds to

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Speaker 4: do this, so you know, I've voiced a lot of

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Speaker 4: support for Charles Oliver over the last three weeks, and

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Speaker 4: my life's work is supporting and promoting and building up

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Speaker 4: all of these athletes. So I don't consider myself to

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Speaker 4: be all that sensitive now twelve thirteen years into my

1977
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Speaker 4: run as a UFC commentator. But one thing I take

1978
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Speaker 4: issue with is people suggesting that because I put over

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Speaker 4: Charles that I can't now support Islami Kashev, and I

1980
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Speaker 4: do believe that my track record speaks for itself that

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Speaker 4: if you were to go on Instagram and ask your

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Speaker 4: favorite fighter or some random fighter how they've been treated

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Speaker 4: by me over the years, I do believe that most

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Speaker 4: of them have felt individualized support for me over the years.

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Speaker 4: And I can just tell you even since Saturday Night, right,

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Speaker 4: I have been messaged by two losing fighters, right, Cody

1987
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Speaker 4: Brundage and Bruno Silva, and I will have long form

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Speaker 4: conversations to try.

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Speaker 2: To help build those guys back up.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I've also had a conversation with Beef Wellington Termin's coach

1992
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Speaker 4: Plinio Cruz right let them know I thought he fought

1993
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Speaker 4: really well in a tough welterweight debut, right, So, behind

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Speaker 4: the scenes, I'm constantly trying to build up this entire roster.

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Speaker 4: So if you listen to this podcast and hear me

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Speaker 4: having fun with my guy kenfl and say, Charles Olivera

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Speaker 4: might be my favorite fighter, Like, please don't make the

1998
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Speaker 4: leap that I am not supporting Islam Makshe because I

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Speaker 4: take this stuff very seriously and at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, but one man trying to support seven hundred fighters,

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Speaker 4: and I can't be perfect. So I just want to

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Speaker 4: get that out there to try to address some of

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Speaker 4: that Olivera's stuff.

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Speaker 2: In advance of his potential title fight in October, well said,

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Speaker 2: you mean fans are jumping to conclusions and just going

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Speaker 2: nuts on you.

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Speaker 3: That's weird.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard that.

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Speaker 4: And the notion that somehow I was anti Kabib, you know,

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Speaker 4: please go check the record on that front.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean, again, knowing you for a long time.

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Speaker 2: It's like John Play does such a good job of

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Speaker 2: like playing sides really really well in my opinion, and

2014
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Speaker 2: especially like calling fights, of being neutral during fights. I

2015
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Speaker 2: think you do that extremely well. And you know, again,

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Speaker 2: it's like people think because you're you know, in favor

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Speaker 2: of some guy or you like a certain guys thought

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you don't look the other guy. And

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Speaker 2: people don't get that, right. I mean again, that's probably

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Speaker 2: the most common critique on any commented, right. I think

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Speaker 2: people just go the other way. So anyways, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you buddy, And again, never had a perfect show,

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Speaker 4: never will, right. I messed up m FAM this weekend,

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Speaker 4: SORR does, Zach Andy Doo and everybody else on that.

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Speaker 4: I knew it was m FAM, but I somehow said

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Speaker 4: m FAM. So I apologize to the gaming community on that.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you know how much it means to me

2028
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Speaker 4: to have a guy like Bruno Silva message me after

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Speaker 4: a loss and say, hey, man, tough one. I hope

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Speaker 4: the company enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like as he feels like there's an outlet there,

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Speaker 4: you know, I want to try to be that guy,

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Speaker 4: you know, and to be approachable and If you're a

2035
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Speaker 4: UFC fighter who listens to this, you know my dms

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Speaker 4: are one hundred percent all right. If you want more

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Speaker 4: My wife's like, are you on Kenny's Defense Instagram page again?

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm sorry, honey. She's like, why don't you

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Speaker 4: go like train or like do something to make yourself

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Speaker 4: more of a threat than just to go down that

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Speaker 4: you to our guests Ray Longo and Brian Petrie. Thanks

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Speaker 4: so much to our great producer Cody Merrow. Always Ready

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Speaker 4: willing and able whenever we need him, and I hope

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Speaker 4: Beef Wellington termin sticks, but it's the long time for

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Speaker 4: the nickname when he's dropping down to one hundred.

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Speaker 2: And seventy pounds. Thanks for being with us for Camp Bum,

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Speaker 2: John Anick.

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Speaker 4: We will talk to you next week in advance of

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Speaker 4: International Fight Week twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Until then, yil back.

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Speaker 2: They won't have bonne of donuts. They wont have bone

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Speaker 2: of Dona