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Speaker 3: It's a Bucking Fits takeover on Fox Sports Radio. He's

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Speaker 3: Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz For the next four That's right,

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Speaker 3: count on four, four big hours. We are gonna be

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Speaker 3: hanging out with you guys, getting you ready for the

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Speaker 3: most overrated holiday on the calendar. I just it took

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Speaker 3: me three seconds and I've already frustrated.

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Speaker 4: Buck.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, wow, Look, Thanksgiving is the most overrated

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Speaker 3: holiday on the calendar. We all know what Thanksgiving food sucks,

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Speaker 3: but we don't suck. We're gonna have a good time

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Speaker 3: for the next fi.

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Speaker 4: I disagree. You suck. You suck.

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Speaker 5: If you want to start this show that way, then

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Speaker 5: I'm distancing myself from you immediately first and foremost too,

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Speaker 5: You suck if you think that Thanksgiving is the most

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Speaker 5: overrated holiday now and of discussion.

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Speaker 3: Look it is, uh And I just came in guns

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Speaker 3: blazing because frankly, I knew that it would piss you off.

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Speaker 3: And that was my goal right out of the gates. Like, look,

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Speaker 3: sometimes you need like, look, you need just a little slap, right,

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Speaker 3: Like everybody has their own thing in the in the

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Speaker 3: in the tunnel before the game starts. I think Buck

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Speaker 3: Rising needs just a little slap, just a little little

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Speaker 3: slap in the face.

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Speaker 4: And that's John Henderson.

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Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta feel it, but I gotta feel

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Speaker 5: a little blood in my mouth to get going to

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Speaker 5: here fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Look, I know you as a teammate, right, so I

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Speaker 3: just feel like the right thing to do is to

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Speaker 3: make sure that we start the show off is as

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Speaker 3: fired up as possible. The football tomorrow is actually, I

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Speaker 3: think gonna be really good. The football tomorrow is gonna

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Speaker 3: be excellent. It's gonna be great. The food that people

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Speaker 3: pretend they like while they're eating the football is all

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Speaker 3: gonna be trash. But the football itself, all of it's trash,

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Speaker 3: is is gonna be really good. And I'm excited. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Buck, Maybe it's because the Lions are

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Speaker 3: finally not hot garbage. Maybe it's because the Cowboys have

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Speaker 3: given us just enough hope for everybody to feel like

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a great day. But it just feels

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Speaker 3: like Thanksgiving football the last couple of years, between the

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Speaker 3: get the Chiefs involved, the fact that the Lions are

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Speaker 3: actually worth watching, and the Cowboys have become interesting on

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Speaker 3: the field, not just off the field, I feel like

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Speaker 3: tomorrow's stacked to be a really good day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all three of these games are interesting for different reasons. Right,

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Speaker 5: You've got the NFC North, which is very much in

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Speaker 5: a bit of a flux, the eight and three Bears,

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Speaker 5: who don't play until Black Friday. I'm sure we'll touch

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Speaker 5: on that at some point as well, going to Philadelphia too,

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Speaker 5: eight and three teams who would have had the Bears

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Speaker 5: that's where things stand right now. So the Packers, Lions

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Speaker 5: the picture. Worst case scenario for them this season, given

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Speaker 5: the decision that they made a quarterback. The Chiefs and

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Speaker 5: Cowboys coming off of crazy comeback victories.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how you feel about this.

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Speaker 5: We obviously haven't spoke since our normal Saturday night slot

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Speaker 5: FITZI previewing Week twelve, But the way that the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: don't know which win was more impressive, But I found

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Speaker 5: myself in a situation never in my lifetime I'm thirty

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Speaker 5: two years old. Never in my lifetime have the Dallas

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Speaker 5: Cowboys actually been America's team. And yet, given that there's

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Speaker 5: it for the Cowboys against the embattled Philadelphia Eagles. For

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Speaker 5: the first time in my life, the Cowboys felt likable

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Speaker 3: Man that feels like the impossibility. And I love this

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Speaker 3: So, in the eighties, one of the best things about

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Speaker 3: So, you've got a Chiefs team at six and five

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Speaker 3: I'm not dead yet, right, like merely a flesh wound.

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Speaker 3: There's this moment of the Cowboys that they've sort of

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Speaker 3: You know, I had a moment. I had a moment

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Speaker 3: no takeaway when you take on the Raiders. There is

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Speaker 3: ready to say there's no takeaway. The Cowboys were down

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Speaker 3: Turns out, then the Cowboys came back. So is there

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Speaker 3: That's how good I think Pickens has become. And so

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Speaker 3: Defense is fixed, but the defense is a lot better.

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Speaker 3: They got healthier, They've gotten right at the right times.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and inevitably that game will disappoint us the most,

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Speaker 5: Versus the other side of this, If you're a fan

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Speaker 5: the definition of that, sometimes to their detriments, sometimes to

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Speaker 5: The George Pickens situation.

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Speaker 4: I know that he was benched.

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Speaker 5: Him and Cedee Lamb were benched for the initial drive

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Speaker 5: of their what was that the Week eleven game that

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Speaker 5: they played for missing curfew Essentially, well, we'll leave it

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Speaker 5: at that. Beyond all the Internet rumors and the idea

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Speaker 5: couldn't have been him throwing up in that trash can

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Speaker 5: George Pickens had so much let's just classify it as

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Speaker 5: Somebody who is capable of managing a situation. But George Pickens,

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Speaker 5: it's just too much. At points he was a health

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Speaker 5: scratch in Pittsburgh. He goes to Dallas. You and I

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Speaker 5: put him in a bigger media market with more media scrutiny,

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Speaker 5: way more pressure, way more attention, all these different things,

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Speaker 5: And to George Pickens's credit and to the Cowboys credit,

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of different people, Brian Schottenheimer included,

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Speaker 5: as well as it has in Dallas this offseason? Who's

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Speaker 5: to say, But right now for the Cowboys, who are

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Speaker 5: I mean, look at the Cowboys and the Packers with

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Speaker 5: that ugly ass tie sitting on their record.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna matter for one.

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Speaker 5: Of these teams later down the stretch, and I'm looking

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Speaker 5: forward to seeing who was sweating that out at the end.

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Speaker 3: I said this on y'ahoo Sports Daily my usual uh,

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Speaker 3: Monday to Friday, I heard so many people screaming about

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Speaker 3: how ties are the worst thing in football. Ties are

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Speaker 3: so ugly. Oh my god, why would we ever? You

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Speaker 3: never play for a tie? Okay, look at the standings now,

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Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, because that tie matters a lot of

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Speaker 3: good reminder by you that, hey, a tie is better

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Speaker 5: He's Jason fitz I'm Buck Rising, filling in for the guys,

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Speaker 5: so Fitzy. Of the games that we have talked about,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say the Ravens stink anytime you have Lamar

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Speaker 3: It feels like, in front of our very eyes, we're

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Speaker 5: mean I understand how bad the schedule is. The strength

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Speaker 5: of schedule is for the Patriots, But before the season,

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Speaker 5: I thought that would have been a five hundred team

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Speaker 5: at best.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, that's the same thing I said.

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Speaker 3: I'll hold myself accountable to that. I feel like everybody

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Speaker 3: else knew what we didn't did. The schedule was just

443
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Speaker 3: going to be this much of a cake walk. That

444
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Speaker 3: feels like part of the reason why it's taken less

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Speaker 3: time to adjust on the Patriots to me, like why

446
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Speaker 3: why on the Colts? Why every time the Colts, every

447
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Speaker 3: time Daniel Jones throws an interception? Say, oh, I told

448
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Speaker 3: you we couldn't trust the Colts, Like it just happens,

449
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Speaker 3: Like why.

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Speaker 4: On the Bronx.

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Speaker 3: The Broncos are truly two plays away from being undefeated

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Speaker 3: this year, and I know bon Nicks hasn't looked good enough.

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Speaker 3: I've said that repeatedly. But you're right. Maybe it's because

454
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Speaker 3: we just only care about quarterbacks and because I don't

455
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Speaker 3: trust the Broncos quarterback, maybe I shouldn't trust the team.

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Speaker 3: That just seems like wild, just over simplification. I trust Lamar,

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Speaker 3: I don't trust the Ravens. I trust Josh Allen. I

458
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Speaker 3: don't trust the Bills. I don't trust bon Nicks. But

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Speaker 3: I do trust the Broncos. And when you're eight and two,

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Speaker 3: damn like you just deserve some credit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think it's you know, it's a lesson that it

463
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Speaker 5: feels like we have to repeatedly learn and it seems

464
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Speaker 5: like we don't retain again as speaking, you know, for

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Speaker 5: the for the larger consuming public, we.

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Speaker 4: Put an outsized value.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it is the most important position in sports,

468
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Speaker 5: like the individual most important position in sports is NFL quarterback.

469
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Speaker 5: But we just saw the best quarterback in the world

470
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Speaker 5: again not that long ago, in the Super Bowl get

471
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Speaker 5: his ass whip by the better team, right, the better

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Speaker 5: team who again has an eight win so far in

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Speaker 5: the season. And whatever is going on with Jalen Hurts

474
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Speaker 5: and AJ Brown and Saquon Barkley and the Philadelphia Eagles

475
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Speaker 5: offensive line, whatever all they do is continue to win.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know they just are recently coming off

477
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Speaker 5: a loss in Philadelphia. I'm sure felt like it was

478
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Speaker 5: burning to the ground on sports talk radio this week.

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Speaker 5: But it's about the better team. So if I said

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Speaker 5: FITZI understanding the outsized value deserved value that we would

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Speaker 5: place on Patrick Mahomes playing on the Chiefs. Are the

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Speaker 5: Broncos a better or a worse team than the Kansas

483
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Speaker 5: City Chiefs?

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Speaker 4: Today?

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Speaker 3: The Broncos are better.

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Speaker 5: The Broncos are a better team. Are the New England

487
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Speaker 5: Patriots at ten and two with a head to head

488
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Speaker 5: over the Bills on the road a better team than Buffalo? I?

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Speaker 3: Actually I think so. Yeah, I'm the argument.

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Speaker 4: Could be made.

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Speaker 5: Milton Williams is on injured reserve. Now, he's been a

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Speaker 5: big part of their success on defense. Will Campbell going

493
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Speaker 5: on injured reserve the guard and forgive me his name

494
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Speaker 5: escapes me, but two of their starting offensive line went down.

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Speaker 4: Will see if they're able to survive a situation like that.

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Speaker 5: It's closer to a push, right, and then you've got

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Speaker 5: I guess we'll just put them together, even though they're

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Speaker 5: not in the same division. The Ravens, the six and

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Speaker 5: five Ravens are the eight and three Colts. Who is

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Speaker 5: the better football team top to bottom? Understanding that one

501
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Speaker 5: has a two time MVP at quarterback, it's probably Indianapolis

502
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Speaker 5: top to bottom. So the better team, and more often

503
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Speaker 5: than not, the healthiest team is the team playing the

504
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Speaker 5: deepest into the postseason. Not only are the three teams

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Speaker 5: that we're talking about Broncos, Patriots and Colts better as

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Speaker 5: a roster construction and for where they are in their

507
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Speaker 5: competitive life cycle than the other three that were used

508
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Speaker 5: to talking about, they are as healthy arguably as any

509
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Speaker 5: of the team's remaining or any of the teams worth

510
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Speaker 5: talking about, because the health of these teams has allowed

511
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Speaker 5: them to continue to advance. The Ravens have dealt with

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Speaker 5: injuries to Lamar Jackson, the most important position, but Bo Nicks,

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Speaker 5: Drake May, Daniel Jones. I know Daniel Jones was dealing

514
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Speaker 5: with a calf or a fibula or whatever the hell

515
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Speaker 5: they officially classified.

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Speaker 4: It us over the weekend.

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Speaker 5: But like, they have been as rosters healthier than your

518
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Speaker 5: average football team, and it's allowed them beyond just being

519
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Speaker 5: good teams to continue to have success down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: Well, and look, I'll admit the hardest part about all

521
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Speaker 3: of this is I believe today the culture a better

522
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Speaker 3: football team than the Baltimore Ravens. For example, I believe

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Speaker 3: that the Broncos are a better team than the Kansas

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Speaker 3: City Chiefs. If I had to bet my house on

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Speaker 3: a Broncos Chiefs game in the playoffs, would I actually

526
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Speaker 3: be comfortable? My mind's telling me no, Like I feel

527
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Speaker 3: like I can't bet against Mahomes in that situation. I

528
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Speaker 3: there is a part of me that understands why this

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Speaker 3: gets so tricky. There's one other team you didn't mention

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Speaker 3: that I want to see if they're part of this

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Speaker 3: conversation for you. But first, Manzi Belaanyas gets caught up

532
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Speaker 3: on what's going on across the landscape this evening, My friend, Hi, guys,

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Speaker 3: how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing so well.

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Speaker 7: Happy early Thanksgiving to you, Happy to be hanging out

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Speaker 7: with you.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 7: Are you doing the whole Turkey and the whole Shenan

539
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Speaker 7: against tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: Hell no, I've got one in ten Tennessee Titans practice.

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Speaker 7: That is very Hey you know what, cam Ward looked

542
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Speaker 7: good against the Seahawks' Why you know what, Listen, I'm

543
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Speaker 7: a Clippers fan, so I always go for moral victories.

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Speaker 7: So I'm just saying he looked he looked good against

545
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Speaker 7: the good defense, which is kind of like, I feel like, oh,

546
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Speaker 7: that was nice to see.

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Speaker 3: So they gave up.

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Speaker 2: They were always in the game. They always they were

549
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Speaker 2: in it, making it interesting.

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Speaker 7: So I enjoyed that game. We do have a lot

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Speaker 7: of NBA going on right now for the very important

552
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 7: NBA Cup, which I'm sure you guys care so much about.

553
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 7: The Grizzlies and the Pelicans are in overtime. Memphis is

554
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 7: up one thirty one to one twenty eight late in

555
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Speaker 7: the first quarter. The Warriors are up on the Rockets

556
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Speaker 7: right now twenty two to eighteen. Trailblazers are edging the

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Speaker 7: Spurs twenty six to twenty five, also late in the

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Speaker 7: first just like the Suns and the Kings, where Phoenix

559
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Speaker 7: is up right now thirty nine to sixteen, but okay,

560
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Speaker 7: see officially eighteen and one to start the season. They

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Speaker 7: just defeated the Timberwolves one thirteen to one oh five.

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Speaker 7: Shay Y'll just Alexander with forty points in the win.

563
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Speaker 7: The Raptors beat the Pacers ninety seven to ninety five,

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Speaker 7: as Brandon Ingram hit the go ahead winner, leaving just

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Speaker 7: point six seconds on the clock.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's not a game winner, but it is,

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Speaker 3: but it is.

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Speaker 7: The Heat took down the Bucks one Ozho six to

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Speaker 7: one Ozho three, Tyler Hero twenty nine points, Nick's over

570
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Speaker 7: the Hornets one twenty nine to one oh one, and

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Speaker 7: the Celtics snapped the pistons thirteen game winning streak, coming

572
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Speaker 7: out on top today one seventeen to one four. In

573
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Speaker 7: men's college hoops at the Player's Era Festival, the championship

574
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Speaker 7: is going on right now and Number seven Michigan is

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Speaker 7: just all over Number twelve Gonzaga fifty three to twenty nine.

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Speaker 7: A little NHL scores like the Avalanche, who have won

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Speaker 7: nine in a row. I think they're about to win

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Speaker 7: ten because they're just shutting out the Sharks five zero

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Speaker 7: late in the second period, and the Golden Knights are

580
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Speaker 7: losing to the Senators to zero late in the first period.

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Speaker 7: When it comes to the NFL, it was reported that

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Speaker 7: Panthers safety Trayvon Morrig's appeal of his one game suspension

583
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Speaker 7: for unsportsmanlike conduct was denied. He will have to miss

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Speaker 7: Sunday's game against the Rams, but the Bengals have activated

585
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Speaker 7: Joe Burrow off injured reserve.

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Speaker 3: He's expected to play Thursday night in Baltimore.

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Speaker 7: And in baseball, the Blue Jays are as signing pitcher

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Speaker 7: Dylan Sees to a seven year, two hundred and ten

589
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Speaker 7: million dollar contract, pending a physical back to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh MONSI makes me so happy. He's Buck Rising. I'm

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Speaker 3: Jason Fitzbuck. I BET's hanging out. Excuse really the talent

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Speaker 3: look at a changing the guard, let me just ask you,

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Speaker 3: where are you on? And I know this team is

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Speaker 3: maybe not on the the precipice of everybody's tongue right now,

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Speaker 3: not on the tip of everybody's song.

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Speaker 4: I said that the wrong web everybody.

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Speaker 3: I meant say tip of everybody's tongue, but then I

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Speaker 3: went precipice and I got lost that did know what

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Speaker 3: happens this late at night? Where are you on the

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Speaker 3: top nine? It's ten thirty here? All right? Some of

607
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Speaker 3: us did the morning show today. We're back to ten thirty.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, thank you, I feel thank you. I'm

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm gonna you know. Let's I'm glad

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Speaker 3: that that I didn't know you had that level of

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Speaker 3: sympathy in your in your cold dark heart mats facts. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're like Turkey, tough and not worth it. Uh, let's

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Speaker 3: see that.

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Speaker 5: Actually that is the one Thanksgiving opinion that you are

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Speaker 5: correct on. Turkey sucks.

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Speaker 3: I'm correct on all of them. Oh we dig it.

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Speaker 3: A tweet by the way, as I started the show

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Speaker 3: saying that ever the Thanksgivings the most overrated holiday, and

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Speaker 3: Brendan said, if Thanksgiving's overrated, what does that make Halloween,

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Speaker 3: Valentine's Day, and Saint Patrick's Day. I put those three

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Speaker 3: higher on the scale of irrelevance. The thing is, I

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Speaker 3: can choose to escape any of those. I can choose

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Speaker 3: to just not participate in Valentine's Day. I can choose

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Speaker 3: to not participate in Saint Patrick's Day. I happen to

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Speaker 3: love Halloween, so I'm in on Halloween. But if Buck

626
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: doesn't want to participate in Halloween, he doesn't have to.

627
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: You can't avoid Thanksgiving like somebody something like this is

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Speaker 3: where everybody comes in and says, oh, if you don't

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Speaker 3: like Thanksgiving food, you just haven't had good thanks Yes

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Speaker 3: I have. I've had. I've had Michelin star Thanksgiving food

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Speaker 3: and it's still sucked, all right, So like, I can't

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Speaker 3: avoid it.

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Speaker 4: Mary was here, you'd be fine.

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Speaker 5: I've had Michelan star Thanksgiving food.

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Speaker 3: I can't help the fact that I was. You know,

636
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Speaker 3: there was a period in my life where you know,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't home for Thanksgiving very much. You work a

638
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Speaker 3: lot in the music business on Thanksgiving, so had to

639
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Speaker 3: go to restaurants and went very good restaurants and it

640
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 3: still sucked, all right, So Gordon Ramsey either can't make

641
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Speaker 3: a turkey or turkey sucks like throwing Gordon Ramsey under

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Speaker 3: the bus. Look, no, Buck, I'm just saying, where are

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Speaker 3: you on the Houston Texans. That's why of course, Yes,

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00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: a great defense, a great defense, and they've won games

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Speaker 3: with Davis Mills as their quarterback. And CJ. Stroud was

646
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Speaker 3: supposed to be like this. He was supposed to be

647
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Speaker 3: everything that we've now decided that Drake pay and Jayde

648
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Speaker 3: Daniels are so like do you believe that the Texans

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Speaker 3: Texans can work themselves into this conversation.

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Speaker 5: So the last when we saw the Bills and the

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Speaker 5: Texans play, the stat or the fact whichever you would

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Speaker 5: consider this that Thursday Night football had up in the

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Speaker 5: middle of that game or I guess before that game

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Speaker 5: had actually kicked off, which is the defense, the number

655
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 5: one defense in terms of scoring and total yardage, has

656
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 5: never missed the playoffs, and that so far now they've

657
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 5: done it with Davis Mills and CJ.

658
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 4: Stroud.

659
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Speaker 5: By the way, for what it's worth, as we've gotten

660
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 5: injury reports for most teams who are starting their practice week.

661
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: CJ.

662
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: Stroud was listed as a full participant, coming back from

663
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 5: that gnarly concussion that's kept him out for the past

664
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Speaker 5: couple of weeks. Davis Mills has handled the job admirably,

665
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: and the question becomes, are they in a situation a

666
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 5: la Minnesota where Minnesota may actually benefit from having Max Brosmer,

667
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 5: for example, in the lineup this week and as opposed

668
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 5: to JJ McCarthy because J. McCarthy has simply not been

669
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: good enough. Davis Mills has won three starts at this

670
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 5: point in time and is capable as a backup. Now,

671
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: eventually the carriage will will turn back into a pumpkin

672
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 5: at moments. And I'm not saying he's perfect by any

673
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: stretch of the imagination, but he's a five year what

674
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: he's a four year five year pro Davis Mills, and

675
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 5: he understands how to handle the moment, and he's done

676
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: well to handle different situations.

677
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 4: That defense is also a cheat code. But CJ.

678
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 5: Stroud has has struggled this season, and frankly, he struggled

679
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 5: for the past two seasons and offensive coordinators were fired

680
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: or an offensive coordinator was fired.

681
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: Joe Slowick.

682
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Speaker 5: If I remember correctly the name, Joe, I'm pretty sure

683
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 5: it's Joe Slowick was fired.

684
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: I think Bobby Slowick, Bobby Stillck.

685
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 5: You're correct, Bobby Slowick was fired in Houston as the

686
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator. And apparently there was some not no love

687
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 5: loss necessarily between the young star quarterback and the offensive

688
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 5: coordinator at the time. So okay, whatever, Then they make

689
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 5: the moves on the offensive line that they do. It

690
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 5: doesn't come to fruition. But honestly, that unit, surviving some

691
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 5: injuries and having some pieces shuffled around, they've played better,

692
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 5: not great.

693
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: They're still a below average unit. But CJ.

694
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 5: Stroud behind a below average offensive line, has himself been

695
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 5: below average.

696
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: Davis Mills has handled the situation a little better. Should CJ.

697
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 5: Stroud be reinserted back into the lineup again this week

698
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: in a critical game against the Indianapolis Colts and they

699
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 5: lose and they fall back down to five hundred, what's

700
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 5: the dialog going to be in Houston? I trust that defense.

701
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 5: I think that defense is going to give you as

702
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: many chances as humanly possible, and that division feels a

703
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 5: bit more open than it did for the first I

704
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 5: don't know half of the season, the Colts losing to

705
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 5: the Chiefs in overtime this past weekend.

706
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Speaker 4: This game is in Indy.

707
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Speaker 5: I don't know if Houston is capable of winning the division,

708
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 5: but I do trust them.

709
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Speaker 4: As a wildcard team. Yeah. Look, I mean they're to

710
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: make a wildcard. I don't think they're gonna go on

711
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 4: a run or anything like that. I'm saying to make

712
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: the postseason.

713
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: But there's a very real world where the AFC South,

714
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: which was being thrown as the worst division in football

715
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: by some coming into this season, could end up with

716
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: three teams, three teams in the playoffs. Well, okay, I

717
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: mean your team sucks, well, not your team. The team

718
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: you cover sucks. We sat not we. Some people thought

719
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: the North was going to be good. The North is trash,

720
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: and some people thought that South was going to be bad,

721
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: and the South has turned out pretty good. The offensive

722
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: line you mentioned is the reason I'm out on the

723
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: Texans to really do any damage. I very unofficially pulled

724
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: my committee of fat friends. You know, I've got my

725
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 3: guys that played some level of either high level college

726
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: football or some NFL and they're my committee of fat guys.

727
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: Whenever I need fat eye analysis on an offensive line.

728
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: I ask guys that played the position, because what the

729
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: hell do I know about it?

730
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: Right?

731
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: So I try and ask, And this was the question

732
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: I asked everybody very unscientifically this week. What team that

733
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: you consider a true good playoff contending team has a

734
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: bad offensive line and across the board. The answer was actually,

735
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: never thought about it, but none. Seattle's not a great

736
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: run blocking team. They struggle with that at times, but

737
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: Seattle's sort of the one that came up twice out

738
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: of everybody that I pulled. I say that because I

739
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: just think all of us need to take a second, like,

740
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 3: look at your favorite team and ask yourself, this would

741
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: my five offensive lineman be starting on a playoff caliber team?

742
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 3: And if the answer to that is no, your team

743
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: probably sucks. I trust the Texans defense, but not more

744
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 3: than I distrust the Texans offensive line when they play

745
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: elite defenses. So it'll be really interesting to see how

746
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: that plays out. Now. For all the trust issues we've

747
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 3: talked about in the AFC, I'm not sure it's any

748
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: better in the NFC, but there is one team that

749
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: maybe deserves to start getting some trust in it that

750
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: we might not be talking about enough. We'll tell you

751
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: who it is next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz

752
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: bucking fits, hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio.

753
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

754
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

755
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

756
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz Bucking Fitz taking over

757
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio tonight on the Jason Smith Show.

758
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving to everybody as we get ready for Thanksgiving.

759
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: On what I've found out over the last few years

760
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: is the biggest bar night in America. Yay. I'll be honest,

761
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 3: I did not know that, and I think this comes

762
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: from you know, quite honestly, Buck. When I left, like

763
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 3: I went to high school in Bowie, Maryland, PG County,

764
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: I'm about at PG County as it comes right. Once

765
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: I left Booie, Maryland, I never went back. Like there

766
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: was nothing for me in Booeie, Like my family didn't

767
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: live there anymore, and there was no reason to go back.

768
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: So this concept of going back every year for Thanksgiving

769
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 3: and then seeing your friends in the bar and partying

770
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: just wass just lost to me. I never had one

771
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: spot because I moved on as much as a kid,

772
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: Like do you crave going back to Indiana to turn

773
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: around and have like a big night out? Like is

774
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 3: Buck Rising going to be out in the streets? Would

775
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: that be your preference?

776
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 5: Well, if I was going to do it, I would

777
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 5: not go to Indiana to do it. Although that I

778
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 5: mean that was a thing in like college, right at

779
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 5: least for me now I'm what ten eleven years removed

780
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 5: from college at this point in time, ten twenty twenty fifteen. Anyway,

781
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 5: So you would go home on break and all of

782
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 5: your friends, whether they went to the local commuter school

783
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 5: or if they're up there with you at the big

784
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 5: state school, and everybody comes home and there's only so

785
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 5: many bars you can go to, and you have some

786
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 5: funny moments where you're back together with your group of

787
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 5: high school buddies or buddies that you keep in touch

788
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 5: with but you don't see as often, and you also

789
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 5: see people that you know from high school, and maybe

790
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: those are some fun interactions, maybe those are some awkward interactions.

791
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 4: Like there's it's a good it's a good experience.

792
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 5: I would say now at this point in my life,

793
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 5: everything that I do involving alcohol comes with a three

794
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 5: day hangover after the fact, so I'm not in the

795
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 5: midst of football season at this point. I would not

796
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: participate in a blackout Wednesday, though I do as I

797
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: sit here in Nashville, Tennessee, have many many friends who

798
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: are down on Lower Broadway tonight participating in what is

799
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: the rare local outing on Lower Broadway. If you don't know,

800
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 5: that's the main strip in downtown Nashville where all the

801
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 5: bachelorettes come down to frolic and gallivant across hockey talk

802
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: or from hockey talk to hockey talk. But on Thanksgiving weekend,

803
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 5: it's not really a tourist so it's a time for

804
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 5: a lot of locals to participate in Lower broad which

805
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 5: is typically a better experience.

806
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: It's funny because that that pokesholes in one of my theories,

807
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: which was maybe it's just a towny thing, like you

808
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: know in Connecticut. So many of the towns here are

809
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 3: just small towns. And I grew up mostly in big cities,

810
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: in and around big cities. So the other part of

811
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: my theory, my whole like that I've been working on,

812
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: is that you know, if you grew up I grew

813
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: up as a kid in Vegas, like, if you go

814
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: back to Vegas, nobody's like.

815
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: May We've got a Fremont right, Like what are you

816
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: doing right?

817
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: You know?

818
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 5: And by the way, no hate on Fremont, Like old

819
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 5: Vegas is great.

820
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

821
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: But and then I lived in Nashville for twenty years.

822
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: I get the thought of just going like I'm not

823
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: sure where the towny bars are. But maybe maybe that

824
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: pokes hooles it it. Maybe I think also maybe I'm

825
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: just too old for any of that at this point.

826
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: As we were talking earlier, Okay, I can confirm, thank

827
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: you so much, I am old enough to be your dad.

828
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: As we talked about earlier, that there's a changing in

829
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: the guard, but there's one team that is not necessarily

830
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: changing the guard, but I think might be worthy of

831
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: a little bit more attention. At what point do we

832
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: take all of the injuries and put him aside and

833
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: look at the fact that the San Francisco forty nine

834
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: ers had managed with Mac Jones as their quarterback for

835
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: much of the season to go out and get this

836
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: thing done. And then brock Perty comes in and has

837
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: just a wretched game where he's just a little off

838
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 3: and everything he does and he creates this moment where

839
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: I think it makes me just appreciate even more Buck

840
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: that they won a bunch of games with mac Jones,

841
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: like the forty nine Ers have been winning in spite

842
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: of their quarterback situation, which smacks in the face of

843
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: how we usually want teams to be winning.

844
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 5: Right now, Yeah, it's complicated because you know, Party goes

845
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 5: out there against the forty nine ers on a game

846
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 5: that we were optimistic about on Monday Night Football between

847
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 5: the Panthers and San Francisco.

848
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: That was just it was gross.

849
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 5: It should have been a nine Ers blowout if not

850
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 5: for Party throwing three interceptions and making this a conversation.

851
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 5: Right So, I don't know where you fall on this,

852
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: because they gave him a fat cut this past offseason,

853
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: and he's obviously played very little, and when he's out there,

854
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 5: he doesn't look like the better quarterback on the roster

855
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: mac Jones, does we This is a conversation that we

856
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 5: can have because we got three more hours to stretch

857
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 5: our legs. But I don't know if I'm so married

858
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 5: to the idea of Brock Purdy just because I'm paying

859
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 5: him what I'm paying him.

860
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: If mac Jones is the better quarterback.

861
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, all of that comes back to something that

862
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: we've learned right now, which is, if you don't have

863
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: to make the decision, don't make the decision. They have

864
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: mac Jones under contract to get next year, they being

865
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: in San Francisco, they don't have to rush anything. It

866
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: doesn't matter who they paid. The question is what are

867
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: they going to be moving forward, which is something that

868
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 3: frankly the Vikings right now. You can't tell Vikings fans

869
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: get my menches every time I mentioned it. They're like,

870
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 3: we didn't want Sam Darnold anyway. He only throws picks

871
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: in big games. You know, it sucks more than that

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Speaker 3: not making it to big games, and that's where you

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Speaker 3: are now without a quarterback. So maybe don't rush that decision,

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Speaker 3: and don't make those decisions until you have to. We'll

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Speaker 3: keep breaking it down for you. An hour number two,

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Speaker 3: he's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz. We're just getting started

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Speaker 3: on a big night on Fox Sports Radio. More coming up,