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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it live on a Thursday edition

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Speaker 2: of the program. Merely Bozie will join here momentarily as

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Speaker 2: we welcome you in on a Thursday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Brown's Daily. It is a matchup day here on Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. Our offense versus that Raiders defense and vice versa.

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Speaker 2: You will hear from offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey in the

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Speaker 2: second hour of the program. You'll hear from defensive corner

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Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz here momentarily as he is set to hit

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Speaker 2: the odium in the next couple of minutes. Our team

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Speaker 2: will hit the field at one thirty five as we

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Speaker 2: continue preparations for the Raiders out in Las Vegas on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Jason Horowitz going to join coming up around one thirty.

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Speaker 2: He is the voice of the Raiders as we go

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Speaker 2: behind enemy lines. It is also a mail bag edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Browns Daily, So hit give me up at

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Speaker 2: Browns Underscore daily. We will answer those questions for you

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Speaker 2: coming up as well as we're pretty loaded up. We

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Speaker 2: have a Thursday football game on the slate tonight as well,

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Speaker 2: between the Cowboys and the Giants, two teams we are

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Speaker 2: intimately familiar with, and to just give you an idea

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Speaker 2: of how crazy this NFL season has been, we have

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Speaker 2: seen both of these teams. Dallas goes to New York

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Speaker 2: as a six point favorite. I got no clue, no clue,

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Speaker 3: It's we love to tell you to do what we

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Speaker 3: do on Thursdays, but maybe it's actually I don't know

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Speaker 3: what we need to do.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. I think we've actually hit two

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Speaker 2: of the three Thursdays. It's one of the few things

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Speaker 2: we've actually hit it. But ziitid guess the lines yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy out there in the streets. There's some wild

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are five teams that are undefeated. There are

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Speaker 3: three teams that are winless. That means there are twenty

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Speaker 3: four teams that are either one in two or two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nuts. I had that stat earlier in the week.

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Speaker 2: There's seventeen times when teams have been faired by six

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Speaker 2: in those games against the spread and nine times outright

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Speaker 2: that's been very, very difficult to figure out. This league's

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Speaker 2: been very, very difficult to figure out. I think it's

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Speaker 2: probably best en capitalized by the fact that Andy Dalton

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Speaker 2: game playing quarterback in the NFL this season. That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's the list. That's how strange it's been.

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Speaker 3: So just what is going I know the way I

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Speaker 3: feel like at some point that magic's gonna run out?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean you think it would be. This

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Speaker 2: they unlocked their offense a little bit, so potentially that's

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Speaker 2: point that the Cinderella Slipper's not gonna fit for the

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Speaker 2: Steelers as they are now their point and a half

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Speaker 2: matchup for that For Richardson, though, there there's so many

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Speaker 2: and he acknowledged that that is certainly part of it.

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Speaker 2: But it's an incredible amount of injuries around the league.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of injuries, Raiders injury news, Max Crosby, they or Munford, Divine,

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Speaker 3: He was, but it looks like he was a full

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Speaker 2: It's it's around the league.

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Speaker 3: But it's a Wednesday. I mean, we had I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think we had like twelve guys on our report yesterday.

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Speaker 2: In this instance, we fly Friday afternoon, so you'll have

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Speaker 3: Going to give it a go. So that's so that's

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Speaker 3: the interesting thing with this travel uh situation. Yeah, that

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Speaker 3: I'm calling I'm calling it a situation. I got enough

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Speaker 3: hear from coach Tofanski till we're going to hear from

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Speaker 3: tonight on the Coaches Show. Hear from him until after

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Speaker 3: the game Sunday.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like when you guys interview him

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Speaker 2: he speaks until postgame. Correct, And there's a lot floating

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Speaker 3: It's really early in the week. Still, it really is

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Speaker 3: the way the NFL works now. And I noticed it

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Speaker 3: yesterday we were putting together the rundown and everything for

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Speaker 3: the previews show last night. All of a sudden, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: we don't have an injury report out yet, Well, we

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Speaker 3: have to wait till the Raiders practice. Well, the Raiders

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Speaker 3: I mean, if that happens tomorrow, we're in the air.

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Speaker 2: We'll we'll have no idea. Yeah, no, you'll have no idea.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Have you guys been out there yet?

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Speaker 3: This is this is the first time for Vegas. I

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Speaker 2: I remember that game well. I remember Nick Chubb in

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Speaker 2: I remember that well. I feel like I've seen I've

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Speaker 3: No, no, they they came here in twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Huh. It's one of those ones. I always get really

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Speaker 2: the uniforms are perfect, all of that wins. Jim Schwartz

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Speaker 2: is gonna be in charge with making it difficult on them.

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Speaker 2: He's at the podium now let's have to listen.

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Speaker 5: Well, he's gonna give it a go, which is not surprising.

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Speaker 5: How limited did he seem to you, Jim, I mean,

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Speaker 6: Fighting through all of that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, still managed to put a lot He didn't get

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Speaker 7: the quarterback just in general. You know, our pressure rate,

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Speaker 7: our quarterback hit rate was really high in that game.

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Speaker 7: Didn't do a good job of winning the coverage when

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Speaker 7: we did get that pressure, and we didn't we weren't

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Speaker 7: able to finish some of them with sacks. But you know,

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Speaker 7: he's a warrior. He's going to go out there and

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Speaker 7: give it everything he has. He's been limited, I mean

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Speaker 6: You have to get off to a pastor start, you know,

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Speaker 7: We went three and out on the first drive, and

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Speaker 7: But you know, Jordan's been in Jeremiah too, They've been

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Speaker 6: You know you're not gonna make every single play in

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Speaker 7: But you know, it was it was it was disappointed

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Speaker 2: of things, when the defense adjusted at half, was rock

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Speaker 3: This should be a complete game opportunity for this Brownze defense.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it.

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Speaker 2: Right, There's not a whole lot of fear. I mean,

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Speaker 2: And that's what he's been very very early on here.

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Speaker 3: He is twenty one years of age, the kid, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: twenty one through twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I think he's from northern California.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, Yeah, Napa.

440
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Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I thought.

441
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Speaker 3: Yeah, living his best life six three two forty three.

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Speaker 3: That's a matchup problem. That's a matchup problem. Yes, I

443
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Speaker 3: mean is that a delp? It?

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Speaker 2: Is that a ja Okay? Yeah yeah, probably Z.

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Speaker 3: Will have that better than we will.

446
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Speaker 2: But yeah, that'd be my guess.

447
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Speaker 3: I mean that's and then Devontae Adams like you know

448
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Speaker 3: what you get Like he's a premier wide receiver you

449
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Speaker 3: can't just let him wander around the field open.

450
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Speaker 2: And I you know, I think it was a tough

451
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Speaker 2: game last time out for MJ and so, and Greg

452
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Speaker 2: obviously had the penalty in the worst possible spot. I'll

453
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Speaker 2: be very curious to know if Jim will have Denzel

454
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Speaker 2: follow the way he had Denzel follow the leak neighbors,

455
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Speaker 2: if that'll be something that will carry over to this

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Speaker 2: week as well. So those are kind of things you're

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Speaker 2: going to be watching when we get to this game

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Speaker 2: through where where the Raiders are before we get into

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Speaker 2: the game in the matchups, in terms of where they

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Speaker 2: are as a franchise right now, in terms is this

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Speaker 2: a build, is this a re build on the fly?

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Speaker 2: Where are they in terms of what they eventually want

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Speaker 2: this organization to be so I you.

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Speaker 11: Know, listen, I think until there's a quarterback that you

492
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Speaker 11: feel is the guy for the future, I think you

493
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Speaker 11: always kind of feel you're in rebuild, right, So that's

494
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Speaker 11: that's part of it. I think the the Antonio Pierce

495
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Speaker 11: changed last year made it felt like, you know, the

496
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Speaker 11: defense last year, the defense in his top half in

497
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Speaker 11: the NFL for the first time in two thousand and two,

498
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Speaker 11: that's how long it had been since the defense is

499
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Speaker 11: that good, and they don't even that top half, not

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Speaker 11: top five, top half, and and so like there was

501
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Speaker 11: a sense that, you know, everybody's back. They added Christian Wilkins, Hey,

502
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Speaker 11: they can keep everybody in the game, and the offense

503
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Speaker 11: can do enough with DeVante Adams and Rock Bowers and

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Speaker 11: Kobe Myers, and you know, it's kind of been strange,

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Speaker 11: to be honest, the first three games, the defense hasn't

506
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Speaker 11: been as good consistently. In any of the three games

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Speaker 11: against Carolina it was bad. And there's a lot of injuries.

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Speaker 11: Now Max Crosby's walking around injured, kind of how Miles

509
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Speaker 11: Garrett is walking around injured, and you know, the offense

510
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Speaker 11: had not been able to open up any holes at all, Right,

511
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Speaker 11: not have more than fifty five yard rushing in any

512
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Speaker 11: of the three games. So you put all those things

513
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Speaker 11: together and it's a frustrating one.

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Speaker 2: In two, this is our first trip out to Las

515
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Speaker 2: Vegas and one of the things that's happening here locally.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm sure that this is something that you

517
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Speaker 2: deal with all the time out there, is you know,

518
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Speaker 2: travel companies are putting the other packages. Fans want to

519
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Speaker 2: go out there and go to Vegas. It's a great

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Speaker 2: place to visit, fun place to be. What is it

521
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Speaker 2: like from the Raiders perspective? And how is this landing

522
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Speaker 2: in the city and how are they keeping their home

523
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Speaker 2: field when I'm sure this has happened again.

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Speaker 11: So it's it's more of, I think a complicated conversation

525
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Speaker 11: because you can't you can't not let people come right,

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Speaker 11: you can't restrict who you're selling it to. You know,

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Speaker 11: I don't have this conversation. But like tickets in Vegas

528
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Speaker 11: are all these fans coming from Ohio are going to

529
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Speaker 11: know this firsthand. But but it's the most expensive ticket

530
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Speaker 11: in the NFL. I think face value for you know,

531
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Speaker 11: four hundred level for an individual game is like three

532
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Speaker 11: or three fifty right for one ticket, So like that's

533
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Speaker 11: how expensive we're talking about. And so you know, Raiders

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Speaker 11: fans who have season tickets, you know, would be selling

535
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Speaker 11: certain games anyway because of how expensive it is and

536
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Speaker 11: how many games they could go to because Raiders fan

537
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Speaker 11: base is Oakland in LA and obviously in Vegas, so

538
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Speaker 11: it's kind of all over the place.

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Speaker 4: So you got that part of it.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, to your point about you know, all the

541
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Speaker 11: all the franchises that are coming out to Vegas, especially

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Speaker 11: those for the first time, there have been games where

543
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Speaker 11: you know, we're our booths and you guys will be

544
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Speaker 11: up there on Sunday is on the fourth level and

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Speaker 11: it is easy to see fifty fifty split and at

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Speaker 11: times at times, you know, it's hard to know this

547
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Speaker 11: for sure, but at times it may even be more

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Speaker 11: like sixty.

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Speaker 6: To forty road.

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Speaker 11: You know, we've we've experienced that with the Steelers, it

551
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Speaker 11: was not but that's the thing that made the Carolina

552
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Speaker 11: games for frustrating. Like in my is my third year,

553
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Speaker 11: is the voice of the team, and in my in

554
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Speaker 11: my first two plus years, that was the first time

555
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Speaker 11: that it really felt like it was ninety ten Raiders fans,

556
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Speaker 11: and that's why the booze were so loud.

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Speaker 4: In the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: The it's such a new sports environment, right like forever

559
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Speaker 2: the professional sports teams didn't play out there. The NHL

560
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Speaker 2: gets in there first with the Knights.

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Speaker 4: And but it's a great one though. It is a

562
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Speaker 4: great environment.

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Speaker 11: The Knights are awesome, the atmosphere.

564
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Speaker 12: The whole thing is so much fun.

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Speaker 11: Allegiance and again, you guys will see this, but like

566
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Speaker 11: Allegiance Stadium is a show. You know, there are halftime

567
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Speaker 11: shows we do not have like pumped in music, got

568
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Speaker 11: a loudspeaker, there's a house band. It's awesome.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's the it's the.

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Speaker 11: Capital of the world, it's the it's the in that regard,

571
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Speaker 11: and that's why the team is constantly so much trying

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Speaker 11: to focus on putting on a show themselves.

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Speaker 2: I think the other thing and you'd be able to

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Speaker 2: speak to this, but my hunch is that most well

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Speaker 2: I know, this isn't a hunch, this is known. Most

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Speaker 2: people will go to Vegas. They go and they go

577
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Speaker 2: for the entertainment, right, but there's an enormous amount of population.

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Speaker 2: It's a boom town. From that, so I guess that's

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Speaker 2: the thing you're also trying to key into is the

580
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Speaker 2: people who actually live here day to day, who don't

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Speaker 2: go to the strip, who don't go to the casinos.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to lock them in. And what it seems

583
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Speaker 2: like is that there is an there was an incredible thirst.

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Speaker 2: It's being quenched of the locals there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Oh, and the A's are coming, yeah hypothetically, so you know,

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Speaker 13: I think, uh so, you know, it's and and and

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Speaker 13: Lebron James has talked about bringing an NBA team like that's.

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Speaker 12: Only a matter of time until the NBA is.

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Speaker 11: In Las Vegas, So there's no question. And everywhere you

591
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Speaker 11: turn in the in the city. You know, you go

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Speaker 11: south to Henderson, you go west to Summerland, you go

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Speaker 11: like towards like me. I mean, it is jam packed

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Speaker 11: with with construction and housing developments. I mean it is

595
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Speaker 11: like kind of how Nashville was a few years ago.

596
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Speaker 11: Is you know, the one of the fastest growing places

597
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Speaker 11: in the country for a variety of reasons, come and

598
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Speaker 11: certainly make that happen too.

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Speaker 12: So you know, there's there's a lot to go with

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Speaker 12: all that.

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Speaker 11: And I get the hunch, and you get the feeling

602
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Speaker 11: that if the Raiders can ever become a consistent winner,

603
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Speaker 11: it's going to be massive home field advantage, but they

604
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Speaker 11: got to get there first.

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Speaker 2: To that end, and talking to the voice of the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: Jason Horowitz, who thank you so much for giving us

607
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Speaker 2: a little bit of his time today, when you talk

608
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Speaker 2: to fans and you say, what do you want out

609
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Speaker 2: of this season, because there certainly is. You mentioned the

610
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Speaker 2: quarterback thing right out of the gates, like, if you

611
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Speaker 2: have a quarterback, then what do you have? So to

612
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Speaker 2: that end, the quickest and easiest way to get one

613
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Speaker 2: is to be bad in Draft one. What do they

614
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Speaker 2: want out of this season? The fans, not the organization.

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Speaker 2: The fans.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, well that's a fifty to fifty split

617
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Speaker 11: because I think, you know, there are what seemed to

618
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Speaker 11: be great quarterbacks in next year's draft, right whether it's

619
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Speaker 11: sad or Sanders, or Carson Beck at Georgia or Quen

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Speaker 11: you Weres at Texas or whoever, it's going to be

621
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Speaker 11: right Cam wore people, you know, he's been super fun

622
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Speaker 11: to watch early in Miami. Whoever that guy is. There

623
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Speaker 11: seem to be great ones every year. But the reality

624
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Speaker 11: is there seemed to be four or five great wins

625
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Speaker 11: every year in every draft, and two out of five

626
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Speaker 11: end up making it big in the NFL. Right, you know,

627
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Speaker 11: we're seeing it with Jay Daniels really and so so

628
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Speaker 11: we know how that goes. I think the fans because

629
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Speaker 11: of last year, the finish of the Antonio Pierce first of.

630
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Speaker 12: All, they wanted him to get the job.

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Speaker 11: When when the Raiders beat the Broncos in Week eighteen

632
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Speaker 11: last year, the entire stadium was channing apap. They wanted

633
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Speaker 11: him to be the head coach. So I think there's

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Speaker 11: a desire for this team to be competing towards the

635
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Speaker 11: playoffs now, not towards next year. And you know after

636
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Speaker 11: they want in Baltimore, I think there was this you know,

637
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Speaker 11: this week to week change of emotions is so strong

638
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Speaker 11: in the NFL, and so to come back and lose

639
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Speaker 11: to Carolina the way that they did was was was

640
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Speaker 11: really frustrating. So I think the fan base wants a

641
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Speaker 11: winner and they'll go from there beyond that because there's

642
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Speaker 11: so many things that if they don't win, that they're

643
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Speaker 11: going to have to figure out. Right, DeVante Adams is

644
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Speaker 11: a massive contract, you know what the entire higher defense.

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Speaker 11: Other than Max Crosby and Christian Wilkin, none of those

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Speaker 11: guys are scienty on this year, so there's a lot

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Speaker 11: that has to go into that, not just figure.

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Speaker 7: Out a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Antonio Piers getting a lot of attention for his

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Speaker 2: comments made postgame on Sunday. Was it as direct as

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Speaker 2: as it came across or was there a little bit

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Speaker 2: of nuanced to his statement.

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Speaker 11: I think it was both. I think he probably was

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Speaker 11: a little overheated, and you know, when he came back

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Speaker 11: on Monday, he's like, hey, I don't hold my tongue.

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Speaker 11: They had a team meeting. He wouldn't address you know

657
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Speaker 11: who he was talking about, obviously with business decisions, so

658
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Speaker 11: so he wasn't gonna tell anybody that. But they had

659
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Speaker 11: a players and coaches only meeting, and by all accounts,

660
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Speaker 11: when the players met with the media yesterday, it sounds

661
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 11: like it got very personal. It got very heated, and

662
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 11: you know, we'll see what happened last year that that

663
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Speaker 11: happened when Josh McDaniels was still the head coach, and

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Speaker 11: it did not lend itself to anything. You know, there

665
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Speaker 11: was a lot of written about it afterwards, but obviously

666
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Speaker 11: Josh McDaniels and getting fired.

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Speaker 12: A week or two after that team meeting.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 11: You know, obviously you'd rather not have to have a

670
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Speaker 11: team meeting if if guys are more motivated and they

671
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 11: come out with a much faster start and play well

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Speaker 11: against Cleveland, and I guess it works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dude. It's so resolt oriented right, like it's

674
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: the sky's falling. Then it's not. I mean, it's unbelievable.

675
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: You want to I wanted where are we injury wise?

676
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: Obviously your guys' injury report won't come later today, but

677
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Speaker 2: it's a long list. Ours is a long list. What's

678
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Speaker 2: your kind of gut feeling on what we'll see Sunday.

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Speaker 11: I was talking to someone yesterday about Europe and they

680
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 11: were like, what are you looking at them? Like, I'm

681
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Speaker 11: looking at the initial injury report this week.

682
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Speaker 12: They're like, we've done it well.

683
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 11: I'm like, we've got a few guys and they've got

684
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Speaker 11: a third of their team, which.

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Speaker 3: Is really amazing.

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Speaker 11: I don't know, I don't know that I've ever seen

687
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Speaker 11: an injury report that long, which which is saying something.

688
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 11: You know, we we were down two starters on defense

689
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 11: for the year already Marcus Depps towards abl uh. And

690
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 11: that's a big loss because Marcus Depp's one of our

691
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Speaker 11: starting safeties, one of the vocal leaders.

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Speaker 4: You know.

693
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 11: Max Crossey gets all the attention and rifle, so, but

694
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 11: Marcus was the main communicator back there was on this

695
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 11: Eagles defense two years ago that went to the Super Bowl.

696
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 12: He was a starter back there.

697
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 11: So he had played really well for the Raiders since

698
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Speaker 11: coming over last year.

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Speaker 4: So that's a big loss already.

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Speaker 11: Without Malcolm Koontz, who had eight sacks in the last

701
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 11: nine games last year, he was expected to be the

702
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Speaker 11: second guy behind on the other side of Max Crosby,

703
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Speaker 11: and he injured his knee when he practiced weeding up

704
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 11: to Week one and is now on IR for this season.

705
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Speaker 11: He just had seasoning these surgery, So they're down two starters.

706
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Speaker 11: Max Crosby's the biggest one, right. I mean, he clearly

707
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 11: was not one hundred percent last week, and we'll see

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Speaker 11: what that means for Sunday. He said he did not

709
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Speaker 11: get worse during the game. But Max is the type

710
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Speaker 11: of guy that plays upward of one hundred percent of

711
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 11: snaps and he was in the eighties against Carolina, so

712
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 11: we'll see. Christian Wilkins was also limited last week, so

713
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Speaker 11: that's two big parts. And then Divine Diablo, who is

714
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Speaker 11: you know, one of our two starting linebackers missed the

715
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Speaker 11: Panthers game with a custion and an oblique injury and

716
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Speaker 11: did not practice yesterday, so that would also be another one.

717
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 11: So there's a lot on that side. And then you know,

718
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 11: from the offensive line perspective, the Raiders have some injuries.

719
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Speaker 11: Dere Mumford are starting right tackle. Left on the first

720
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 11: series and never returned.

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Speaker 12: He did not.

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Speaker 11: Practice yesterday either.

723
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Speaker 4: But the issues with the.

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Speaker 11: Offensive line aren't just the injury trying to run block

725
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Speaker 11: because that hasn't gone well.

726
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Speaker 2: You know, if we were at the combine last year

727
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: and we were talking about if you could bet on

728
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: any rookie to have an immediate impact, and a lot

729
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: of people are talking about Caleb Williams. They're talking about

730
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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison and Malik Neighbors and all these guys have

731
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: various amounts of success. But I say, look, I don't

732
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Speaker 2: know if he's going to be the best player at

733
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: the position right away, but he might be. But it

734
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: felt like Brock Bauers was the sure thing to me

735
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: as I've ever seen in football, and he has been

736
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Speaker 2: great for you guys, When did you know that he

737
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Speaker 2: had the chance to be special and did you think

738
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Speaker 2: he'd be this good right away?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 11: I did a lot of college football too, so you know,

741
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 11: Brock Bowers gets, as you pointed out, so much attention

742
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 11: in college. I mean, in fact, nobody in the history

743
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 11: of the SEC had more receptions of receiving areas. And

744
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 11: he missed his last five games as a junior, didn't

745
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 11: even play a senior and he missed the last five games.

746
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Speaker 11: So like you knew he was special as a freshman. Uh,

747
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 11: and then that proved to be true. He is such

748
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 11: a hard worker, and you know, he is such a

749
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 11: matchup nightmare, whether it's against opposition or in practice against

750
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 11: the team. You know, you just see how how he

751
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 11: loses guys. I mean, there's a play against Baltimore, you know,

752
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 11: whether it's against a linebacker or a safety, and he's.

753
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 12: Able to just lose guys in routes.

754
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 11: And so it was disappointing they couldn't get him the

755
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 11: ball more last week because the first two weeks he

756
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 11: set the record for receptions by a tight end in

757
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Speaker 11: the history of this league, and through two games of

758
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 11: a career with fifteen he had nine for ninety something

759
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 11: against the Ravens. So I'm going to assume that if

760
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 11: there's time to throw, he is going to get.

761
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Speaker 12: A heavy workload.

762
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 11: But that's a question mark, right, I mean Gardner Mischew,

763
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 11: Mark Gardner Mitschew has not had time to throw, and

764
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 11: when he has had time to throw, he's pulling the

765
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Speaker 11: ball down and not necessarily making quick decisions. So you know,

766
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Speaker 11: that's that's a question mark.

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00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: When you do the time to throw thing, it kind

768
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: of reminds me of the Spider Man gift right the

769
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: same spot Deshaun Watson runs for his life and a

770
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: lot of the same things that are happening with with Minshew.

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Speaker 2: I'll get you out of here on this one, Jay,

772
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: if from a if the Raiders win this one on Sunday,

773
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: what has to happen? And conversely, if it goes the

774
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: Browns way and our way, what will have to happen

775
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: from the Cleveland perspective.

776
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 11: Well, we haven't been able to stop the run consistently,

777
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 11: right and and so you know with your with the

778
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 11: point being that you guys are struggling to protect de

779
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 11: Shawn Watson, and he hasn't been nearly as accurate. I

780
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 11: think whoever gets the ground game going is going to

781
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 11: be the team that controls things now. I don't know

782
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 11: if Christian Wilkins and Max Crosby are healthy. I think

783
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 11: we have a better to run than we had been,

784
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 11: which was what's is a surprise because you know, statistically

785
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 11: against Baltimore and and the Chargers, we gave up a

786
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 11: lot of rushing yards. But the first halves of both

787
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 11: of those games, the Chargers were averaging like two yards

788
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 11: to carry and the Ravens had nine rushing yards. And

789
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Speaker 11: you guys know how it is as hard as to

790
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 11: stop the Ravens rushing attack, and we held them in

791
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 11: verse half. That's how great the front seven was the

792
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 11: first two weeks, and it was awful right from the

793
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 11: get go against Andy Dalton and and and the Panthers.

794
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 11: So six, if that part of it is fixed, then

795
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 11: I think we got a really good shot. But they listen,

796
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 11: the pressure in Gardner's face up the middle has been

797
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 11: such a problem that that that's got to get fixed

798
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 11: for us, or moving the football is going to be

799
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Speaker 11: a challenge.

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Speaker 2: Really enjoyed this Jason, thank you so much for your time.

801
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: Look forward to checking in with you on Sunday.

802
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 11: All right, enjoy the trip out there. And yes, there

803
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 11: are things in Vegas that aren't the strip.

804
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: That's true.

805
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: People don't realize that. Yeah, thanks man, appreciate you. Yep,

806
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,359
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Speaker 3: Make him do all the work in the two o'clock

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Speaker 3: hour matchup. Go just start talking, break it all down.

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Speaker 6: You got it.

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Speaker 3: Although that was great from Jason Horwooz.

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Speaker 6: He's great.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't you know. I couldn't I know that he

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Speaker 2: did either an overnight ESPN show or something that I

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00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: used to listen to all the time when I was home,

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Speaker 2: when I was on my way home from something. I

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Speaker 2: don't remember when, but okay, it's in my head and

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Speaker 2: it's locked in. He was very very good. I find

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Speaker 2: it fast. I found it very fascinating, and I think

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00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: their whole situation is fascinating because you know, we have

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00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: the I know we have a partner on here somewhere

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Speaker 2: where I don't know eight point fifty is is. We're

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Speaker 2: headed out there as well with Risen and Hammer and

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00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 2: those guys are headed out there, and we've talked about

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00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: it a lot too. But this is something that probably

844
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: happens when every team visits there for the first time,

845
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: is they go to Vegas and they do the party,

846
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: and they do all of it. And when he said

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00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: they're talking about sixty forty sometime opposing teams, and sometimes

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00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: even more than that for our game, probably will be that.

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Speaker 2: The tickets he mentioned how expensive they are, but it's

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00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: it's a big party. So like their job is to

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00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: carve out their true fans amidst this entertainment capital of

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00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: the world. And it's a tricky thing to try to navigate.

853
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: It's a sports boomtown. Everybody knew sports would work there

854
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: was just the leagues were scared to go out there

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00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 2: because they were terrified of the gambling. Sure, Vegas, I'll

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00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: give the NHL credit. They were first and that mattered,

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00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 2: and they The other thing the NHL really understood about

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Speaker 2: the Vegas Knights going out there was they made they

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00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: gave them advantage of expansion team had ever been given.

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00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: They paid a record fee for that franchise, and in

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Speaker 2: exchange they got a team that in year one played

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00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: for the Stanley Cup. Correct, So that so they made

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00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: sure that the NHL made sure that that operation would

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Speaker 2: be elite, right, away. They've already won a Cup, so

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Speaker 2: they've won the Cup, they've played for the Cup. They've

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Speaker 2: been around for five years, so.

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Speaker 3: And it's a blast. My buddy lives in Vegas, he's

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Speaker 3: got seasons of production. Yeah, and he goes it's it's

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Speaker 3: the most fun you can have.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm wonderable that it becomes oversaturated because so

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Speaker 2: they have the Knights, They're gonna get the NBA. What

872
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: Jason said is spot on with Lebron wanting to put

873
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: a team there. The A's are coming eventually. They've got

874
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: the Raiders. They have the Vegas Aces as well, who

875
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: are the best team in the w NBA. So all

876
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: of those things right, UNLV all the rest of it, Like,

877
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: is there enough to go around? My hunch is yes,

878
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: because if you've been out there, it's a desert. You

879
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: can build places forever. So I'm guessing there will continue

880
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: to be a population boom and it will continue to

881
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: be met. But it was really you have to give

882
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: the NHL the didn't haven't got a lot right in

883
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: the last thirty years, mostly gotten wrong. But they they

884
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: owned that market right away by winning right away.

885
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, it's it will be fascinating. The A's thing

886
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: just doesn't make any sense. I don't. I don't know

887
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: if that supports it. I mean, look, think about how

888
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 3: hot it is.

889
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: Well Kildo Dome obviously, yeah, they have to. I don't know.

890
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: I I is today the last game at Oakland. It

891
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: was yester night yesterday?

892
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that it was last night. People were

893
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: taking the seats out of the stadium.

894
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: Okay, last night, right, So yeah, I mean that's it's

895
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: pretty wild like that Oakland lost all of that, that

896
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: it lost the Raiders, that it lost the A's, the Warriors,

897
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: Warriors went across the Bay. Yeah, tough, tough spot. I

898
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: get it, Like California's not gonna pay for any more stadiums.

899
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: You want to build a statim bill yourself. But the

900
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: consequence of that as you lose teams and they'll never

901
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: get them back.

902
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, little mail bag, time squeezing it in

903
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: here before doctor Z joins us. You can tweet your

904
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: questions to a Brown Bailey. Enough from the clown, some

905
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: questions for Uncle Bo. How would you fix nil insanity?

906
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: Call it what it is, professional sports. Pay them money

907
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: out of your television slush funds percentage unionize them, provide

908
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: them with contracts which would protect them and protect you

909
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: and give control back to the coaches. God it incise enough. Yeah, well,

910
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: the only fix. Everything else is nonsense. Do you hear

911
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: people tell you about other fixes, like this ridiculous house

912
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: bill that they're trying to get past. It's not going

913
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: to do anything with nil. There's no protections in it.

914
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: It's tri to protict universe. Season's not that it's the

915
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: only way.

916
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: Loved Dog Today asked what was your biggest fast food

917
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: order ever restaurant hop fries, McDonald's, burger from Wendy's, et cetera.

918
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: Vegas.

919
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, favor biggest fast food order. I mean, I've been

920
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 3: on some Taco Bell late night orders that have been

921
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: pretty impressive with a large group of people.

922
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: I had a I had Speaking of Vegas, I had

923
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: a double double double animal style milkshake order after a

924
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: long night in the Las Vegas that was quite good.

925
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: Well in and out, Yeah, a little in and out,

926
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: that's it.

927
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: I plan on a little in and out this weekend's Yeah.

928
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: You know what, I always tell people about it, and

929
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: I always do when we got to the desert in

930
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: the winter, we always eat it. In and out the

931
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: boys and I do like it's really just like it's

932
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: the burger, Like, don't worry about the fries.

933
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: You hit it.

934
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: Don't get the fries.

935
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: You could give it.

936
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: One container of fries for four of you would be fun.

937
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: Get two bites, that's all you need. The milkshakes are awesome,

938
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: but it's the burger that you want. The burger is legit,

939
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: and it is like people want to take it's funny

940
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: like people say, oh, it's not as good as this

941
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: artsy whatever. Dude, it's a fast food burger. Correct, It

942
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 2: is a fast food burger and is that it's excellent.

943
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: There are a few other places like that. Or I'm

944
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: always like, don't get the fries. You're gonna be just

945
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: fine with burger. You could go two burgers if you

946
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: want it. You could do two burgers if you want Yeah,

947
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: Brown's backers, North Jersey waffles or pancakes, pancake.

948
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I make a fantastic banana pancake that I do.

949
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: I've made some coconut pancakes off the Rocks thing that

950
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: he did, So I've done coconut pancakes, banana pancakes. And

951
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: then you go with a little butter and then a

952
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: little honey roasted peanut butter and then maple. That's a

953
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: big win. It's funny, this is controversial hot take. I

954
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: actually think like a frozen Aggo waffle is better than

955
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: a homemade waffle.

956
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: That is not a hot take. I think that's a LEGITMA,

957
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

958
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: That's what I think. I think fair. You think so too.

959
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: Kevin Gabe says we're insane. G Man says, we're insane.

960
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: I I've made them from scratch. I go through all

961
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: the process and then it's a proud and I'm like,

962
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: that's not better than an ago waffle?

963
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: Pop down, pop up butter. Now, see what I like

964
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: to do after in the in the whole toaster thing,

965
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: they pop up, You put the butter and syrup on,

966
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: and then you pop them in the microwave for an

967
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: extra fifteen seconds to soften them up and warm them.

968
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't I like him, Crispy, I like where your

969
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: head's at. What I will do is I will heat

970
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: for the boys. I'll do this. I will heat the

971
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: maple syrup, and then I want to make sure that

972
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: it almost reminds you a little bit of like waffle house, Like,

973
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: I want to make sure every little hole in the

974
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: top of that walk coups filled with butter. It's all

975
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: with butter, and then melted syrup on top. That's what

976
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: you go so then you get it all congeals. It

977
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: makes me hungry.

978
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 3: Bobby wants. Bobby wants to know what funny saying would

979
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 3: be written on your tombstone to describe the life you lived.

980
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: Probably, Uh, I don't know. I think probably. I mean

981
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 2: one of the things I've I'd probably say the most,

982
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: is he like here, lie Bo Bishop, he acted accordingly.

983
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: I like that.

984
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: That's probably what I go with.

985
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: Lived window seater or I'll see it on a plane.

986
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: Window always window. I can I can wedge myself in

987
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: to make it a built in pillow.

988
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I on a plane. It's I'm this drives

989
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: me nuts because my kids are always like, I want

990
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: the window. I want the window. Then the first thing

991
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: they do is they put the thing down and they

992
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 2: get on a screen, and I'm like, you're not even

993
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: using it.

994
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 11: Correct.

995
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: I Actually I enjoy as much as you can enjoy

996
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: looking out the window and watching as I fly over America.

997
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: I enjoy that. It's fun when you like stumble across

998
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: the fact you're flying over like the Grand Canyon or

999
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: something like that's like, oh boy, look at this.

1000
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: This is significant flying into Seattle, like you're going right

1001
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: over the Rockies. Yeah yeah, and then over the volcano.

1002
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: Oh sure, Mount Saint Helen.

1003
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1004
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah you would you had to fly I wonder what

1005
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: part of Montana you flew over?

1006
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 3: What we actually went into Canada? You went, we were

1007
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: International Airspace.

1008
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: North and then down? Okay, okay, so you went. You

1009
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: would have flown over probably not probably not all the

1010
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: way up towards Calgary, but you probably would have been

1011
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe maybe maybe you did.

1012
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's I I enjoy looking out on our plane.

1013
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: A lot of times it's down and I'm like, why.

1014
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 2: Why now throw it up? I like trying to guess

1015
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: which city it is? Wonder which one this is? Yep, yeah,

1016
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: I like that.

1017
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: All right, that's a shortened version of today's mail bag.

1018
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: If we get some more questions, I'll get them to

1019
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Speaker 3: you as we go. All right, there you go.

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Speaker 2: the Ultimate Game Day. Here's offensive Coordinator Ken Dorsey.

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Speaker 9: I would you assess just how DeShawn played in that game?

1039
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1040
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 8: I mean I think, like like a lot of games,

1041
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 8: you know, there you look at it, you sit down

1042
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 8: and you evaluate, you great it and there's things that

1043
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 8: we can improve on. There's things that we did really well,

1044
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 8: you know, and I think uh, uh, you know right now,

1045
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 8: mentally you know, he's playing mentally tough. He's really you know,

1046
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 8: staying in games and and you know giving us a

1047
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 8: chance to win, you know, and and and really battling,

1048
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 8: you know, battling out there for us. So, uh, there's

1049
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 8: a lot of good things that that that you see

1050
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 8: on the field. There's a lot of good things that

1051
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 8: go unnoticed with him right now. But then obviously, like

1052
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 8: like all guys, when you evaluate, there's things we can

1053
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 8: do better, you know. So that's that's whether it's uh, Deshaun,

1054
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 8: anybody on our roster, and probably just about any person

1055
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 8: in the NFL when you went after playing in a game.

1056
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: Ken along those lines, Kevin was saying the other day

1057
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 5: that protection is on everybody.

1058
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: What kind of role can you have in in kind

1059
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: of tightening that up for to Sean.

1060
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's the big thing for us is

1061
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 8: just playing decisive, you know, and and and making sure

1062
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 8: that that uh, you know, we're doing a great job

1063
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 8: with him, you know, understanding exactly what you know, why

1064
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 8: things are in what the thought process is all right,

1065
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 8: if you know this happens, here's here's what we got

1066
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 8: and here are our outlets, and you know, we do

1067
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 8: we talk a lot about having just a really good

1068
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 8: ost thought process. So like you know, in a situation, ay,

1069
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 8: things things break down or things aren't there just outlet scramble,

1070
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 8: throw away, you know in our minds. So uh, you know,

1071
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 8: we want to continue to harp on those things, continue

1072
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 8: to uh, you know, do whatever we can to make

1073
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 8: sure that that we're keeping them, keeping them clean. And

1074
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 8: and to Kevin's point, it takes all eleven to do that.

1075
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 8: And obviously, you know, from the quarterback position, you know,

1076
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 8: to to everybody on the roster, Kevin, the Browns.

1077
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 7: Are averaging about three and a half yards on first

1078
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 7: that's a really low number.

1079
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: Why is it? And how do you fix that?

1080
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 8: I mean, uh, and I hate to be vague and dodge,

1081
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 8: you know, but it's it's an execution, you know, And

1082
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 8: that's that's what it comes down to. We just gotta

1083
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 8: you know, we got to make sure we're coaching it.

1084
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 8: We got to make sure that we're you know, uh,

1085
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 8: putting our guys in the spot and and we're going

1086
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 8: out there and executing from from top to bottom, you know.

1087
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 8: So it starts with us as coaches, and then uh,

1088
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 8: you know in terms of the teaching and uh, it

1089
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 8: goes goes all the way through. So uh, whenever, whenever

1090
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 8: you're in a situation like that, you know, it's not

1091
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 8: it's not one thing, it's it's uh, it's something that

1092
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 8: we just got to like, you know, really focus on,

1093
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 8: really make sure that that we're we're preaching the execution

1094
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 8: piece and everybody doing their job, you know, and and

1095
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 8: not pressing, not trying to do too much, you know, uh,

1096
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 8: just really focused on Hey, like everybody, let's do our job.

1097
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 8: And that's that's from us as as coaches, uh, to

1098
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 8: the all the way down to the players.

1099
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 9: The fourth down decision to Sean May to keep the

1100
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 9: ball where it looks like maybe you could have thrown

1101
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 9: to Jordan against he said yesterday, Aggains was the decor.

1102
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 9: Can you kind of explain that that play to us

1103
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 9: kind of what he was supposed to do there?

1104
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean obviously I don't want to get

1105
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 8: into like specifics of reads and and how we're you know,

1106
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 8: how we're doing things, but you know, it's just it

1107
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 8: all falls back to just our execution from top to bottom,

1108
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 8: you know, going out and executing it at a better level.

1109
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 8: You know, in a situation like that, you know, and

1110
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 8: that's that's everybody, you know, not just to Sean, that's

1111
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 8: all players involved, you know, right there. And I think

1112
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 8: when you look at that at a lot of plays,

1113
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 8: you know, you could freeze frame something and say, you know, hey,

1114
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 8: uh could done this, could done that. But in that position,

1115
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 8: in that in that viewpoint in which the quarterback has,

1116
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 8: you really have to trust your eyes and trust what

1117
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 8: you see and trust your progressions. And and so that's

1118
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 8: something that you know, we will look at and continue

1119
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 8: to evaluate that play every play.

1120
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 10: Well, we're going to talk to you at the beginning

1121
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 10: of season, I think can you you kind of said

1122
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 10: it's going to take a while for this new offense

1123
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 10: to start clicking.

1124
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 6: So is that what we're seeing here?

1125
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 8: But I think you know, when when you're looking at

1126
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 8: the situation we're in right now, it's it's going to

1127
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 8: be one of those things where there there really aren't

1128
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 8: you know, any excuses you're going to make, you know,

1129
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 8: like we don't, we don't. We're not in that business.

1130
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 8: We're in the business of going out and executing on Sunday.

1131
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 8: So you know, no matter what the situation is for us,

1132
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 8: we got to grind. We got to go out work,

1133
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 8: work our tails off to put us in position to

1134
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 8: win a game on Sunday, no matter you know, if

1135
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 8: it's running the ball, throwing the ball, whatever that is.

1136
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 8: You know, So we're not going to sit and make

1137
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 8: excuses about, uh, should we done this? Could we have

1138
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 8: done that? You know, It's it's about going out executing

1139
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 8: at a high level that we're nowhere. We know we're

1140
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 8: capable of doing.

1141
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 9: Ken When the season started, the questions about the Shawn

1142
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 9: We're shoulder health seems to have passed that test.

1143
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 3: But do you think the mental part of this game

1144
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: is still rusty?

1145
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

1146
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 8: You know, it's a good question.

1147
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 3: I think.

1148
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 8: You know, Deshaun's played a lot of football, you know,

1149
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 8: and and he's got a ton of experience, and and

1150
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 8: he's got it in uh you know, some some big

1151
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 8: time games, and and he's seen a lot of different defenses.

1152
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 8: So when I said and look and evaluate you know,

1153
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 8: the and grade and and whatnot after games, you know,

1154
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 8: there's there's a lot of things. There's a there's a

1155
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 8: lot of great decisions and some of them, you know,

1156
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 8: some of them it might look like a bad decision

1157
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 8: at times because he's just throwing the ball away or

1158
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 8: or you know, or during the ball because things are covered,

1159
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. So I think there's a

1160
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 8: lot of good in there that that goes notice. There's

1161
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 8: a lot of good that goes unnoticed, and then there's

1162
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 8: things that that we can improve on. And that's that's

1163
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 8: him and that's everybody. So we'll continue to do that.

1164
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 8: He's going to continue to to you know, to grow

1165
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 8: as a player with what we're doing and become more

1166
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 8: and more comfortable. And you know, I think, uh, he's

1167
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 8: kind of the tip of the spear for us in

1168
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 8: a lot of ways, you know, and he's going to

1169
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 8: be somebody who's going to help us win a lot

1170
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 8: of games.

1171
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 10: Guys in the offensive line have talked about the navigating

1172
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 10: the blocking for.

1173
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 8: His game play, specifically mentioned in sending those plays.

1174
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 4: As a coach, though, is that something that you guys

1175
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: focus on for them not just their individual and scheme techniques,

1176
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: but those techniques for DeShawn specifically.

1177
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 9: In those moments.

1178
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, And I think it's a it's a great

1179
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 8: question because when you do have a guy who's mobile

1180
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 8: and can make make a guy miss in the pocket,

1181
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 8: extend plays and things like that. The natural you know,

1182
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 8: it's it's a little different for those guys up front,

1183
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 8: you know, And so I know, uh Andy does a

1184
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 8: great job, you know, working with those guys to understand that, hey,

1185
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 8: when they do break contain, here's here's thoughts, you know,

1186
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 8: and here's what you can do. And if you get

1187
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 8: in a position, you know where where we don't want

1188
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 8: to get the holding, sometimes you got to let him

1189
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 8: go and you sometimes you gotta you know, make sure

1190
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 8: that we don't we don't get called for one because

1191
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 8: you're tugging a guy as he's leaving the pocket and whatnot.

1192
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 8: So you know, there's there's definitely some things that you know,

1193
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 8: those guys learn and and and kind of talk through,

1194
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 8: you know, with with that playing style. But also there's

1195
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 8: there's an instinctual level to it that I think those

1196
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 8: guys up front kind of have a have a feel

1197
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 8: for that that you've seen, you know, to kind of

1198
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 8: help with some of those things as well.

1199
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: And I can't I'll talk in a little tough time

1200
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 5: himself in the first threeks of the season and then

1201
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 5: obviously getting those two touchdowns on Sunday, and you talked

1202
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 5: about he felt like it was a good starting point.

1203
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 5: Just what have you seen he's talked about, like the

1204
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 5: different focus and practice, Like, what have you guys seen

1205
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 5: from him in that regard?

1206
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think, Uh, when you when you

1207
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 8: watched him last week, it was fun to fund to

1208
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 8: watch him kind of get out there and make those

1209
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 8: types of plays. You know, he's a big part of

1210
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 8: our offense. He's a big part of obviously, you know,

1211
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 8: what we do in a lot of ways, and and

1212
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 8: defenses has to account for him, and and when they

1213
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 8: do account for him, hopefully that we got you know,

1214
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 8: other guys who are made to make plays if if

1215
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 8: they're trying to, you know, really focus on him and

1216
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 8: take him away. And that's where the balance of it. And

1217
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 8: I think we kind of talked about a little bit

1218
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 8: last week from a quarterback perspective. You know, you can't

1219
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 8: you can't force feed somebody.

1220
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 6: You can't.

1221
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 8: You know, Uh, you got to trust your eyes and

1222
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 8: trust your progressions, and you know the ball is going

1223
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 8: to find the open guy, you know. And and last

1224
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 8: week it was a mari in a in a in

1225
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 8: a lot of ways and in big ways for us.

1226
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 8: So you know, we're going to continue to do that

1227
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 8: and hopefully continue to put Mari and and uh you know,

1228
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 8: our other playmakers in position to make plays for us,

1229
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 8: and and uh and he did a great job team

1230
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 8: advantage of that and to his point, hopefully it's the

1231
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 8: start of a good run for us.

1232
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, Ken Dorsey, offensive coordinator at

1233
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: the podium, and it's presented by Vivid Seats persu your

1234
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: official Fan Experience Package day for the ultimate game Day.

1235
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: Joining us now on the program, Doc to Z and Buddy,

1236
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: I've got I got an injury report for you, this

1237
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: fresh off the press is in practice today for US.

1238
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: Miles good news there, Jerome Ford, Jordan Hicks, and the

1239
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: Chief returned to practice today, so he had the Chief

1240
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: out there as well. And then out we had Jack Conklin,

1241
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: Pierre Strong, Jed Wills, and then a new one on

1242
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: the list, Dalvin Tomlinson. But he got a veteran's day.

1243
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: I think last Thursday.

1244
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 14: Takes to be a veterans day for Dalvin Tomlinson. That

1245
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 14: you know, we'll see with Chief. I think that one

1246
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 14: is far from certain, but certainly good news. Jerome Ford

1247
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 14: should be available to the Browns on Sunday. Jordan Hicks

1248
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 14: has been so good and it would be great to

1249
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 14: have him available Sunday as well. And then Miles has

1250
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 14: already said he's gonna go, so you know that you're

1251
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 14: good there, even though he's definitely battle through some injuries.

1252
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is, and he's battling three D had availability

1253
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: in the last twenty minutes or so, and he says

1254
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: he's not worried at all about any more damage and

1255
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: he's feels confident. It's just about a matter of playing

1256
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: through it. And that's the way that it goes good

1257
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: talking to you, my friend. We had Jason Horowitz on

1258
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: and we were talking with him about some of the

1259
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: things that were going on with the Raiders and he

1260
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: was I asked him, I said, what's the one thing

1261
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: that has to happen for for the Raiders to win?

1262
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: One thing that has to happen for the Browns to win?

1263
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: And it was kind of the same answer for both,

1264
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: and it was whichever team can run the ball, because

1265
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: if you can do that, then you can protect the

1266
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: quarterback a little bit. The Raiders are brutal. We'll get

1267
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: to the matchup, I know momentarily about that, but as

1268
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: we turn onto the matchup side of it and you

1269
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: think of this matchup with the Raiders, what are some

1270
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: of the things that jump out?

1271
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean they like us.

1272
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 14: You know, they have a phenomenal pass rusher up front

1273
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 14: in Max Crosby. He is dealing with a high unkle sprain,

1274
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 14: so their best defensive player is injured, much like ours,

1275
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 14: but already this season three sacks, five tackles for a lost,

1276
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 14: five quarterback hits two his defense and leads the team

1277
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 14: in pressures. You know, he's got three ten plus sax seasons.

1278
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 14: Last year cur high fourteen and a half sacks, twenty

1279
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 14: three tackles for a loss. Last year he was one

1280
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 14: of the few peoplehead of j Okay in that department.

1281
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 14: So you've got to worry about him. And then you've

1282
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 14: got to worry about Christian Wilkins was their big free

1283
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 14: agent four years, one hundred and ten million last year

1284
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 14: out of Creer eye nine sacks on the interior, a

1285
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 14: former Clemson guy. We saw Dexter Lawrence did last week

1286
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 14: and kind of wreck that game a little bit. So

1287
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 14: those are the two you got to watch out. Four

1288
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 14: on the front, Robert Splane, who's no stranger of the Browns,

1289
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 14: spent the beginning of his career. First four years with

1290
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 14: the Pittsburgh Steelers, he's kind of having a renaissance curre.

1291
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 14: High on hundred and forty eight tackles last year, three interceptions.

1292
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 14: Last week, had a sack, a team high eleven tackles,

1293
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 14: and you know that he's a guy that can blitz.

1294
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 14: You know they're going to blitz their linebackers because we've

1295
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 14: shown that we cannot handle that, and at something that

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00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 14: they like to do on defense, they're gonna blitz quite

1297
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 14: a bit. Far this season, they blitzed on forty seven

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00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 14: percent of their snaps on defense. League they run stunts

1299
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Speaker 14: twenty one percent of time. That's the seventh most in

1300
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 14: the league. So when you talk about what you're gonna

1301
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 14: have to deal with, not just Wilkins and Crosby, it's

1302
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 14: gonna be correctly identifying the pressures that they are going

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01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 14: to bring. And they are going to bring pressure from

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01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 14: the linebacking position, and they're gonna blitz out of the slot,

1305
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 14: and so you've got to be ready for says Nate

1306
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 14: Hobbs has done a good job. He's got three sacks

1307
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 14: in his career. He's a guy that can blitz a

1308
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 14: little bit, so you really have to be kind of

1309
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 14: on your p's and q's about that. Now they only

1310
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 14: have five sacks on the season, so it's really been

1311
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 14: Max Crosby's got three, Wilkins has a half, Charles Snowden

1312
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 14: has a half, and then Robert Spolen has one.

1313
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 4: But you can attack this team through the air.

1314
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 14: You can attack the linebackers either Spelane or Divine Diablo

1315
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 14: if he's able to go but he looks like he'll

1316
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 14: be out again with an oblique or Luke Masterson, I

1317
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 14: think you can absolutely get after him. And then on

1318
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 14: the back eight Hobbs is over one hundred and fifteen rating,

1319
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 14: Jack Jones the other corner over one hundred and twenty rating.

1320
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 14: Their safety Trayvon Merrick. He's got a one hundred and

1321
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 14: thirty three rating. Isaiah Polomoo he he hasn't ever started,

1322
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 14: so this is gonna be his first start. They lost

1323
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 14: Marcus Apps to an ACL injury. So the back end,

1324
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 14: one guy who's played really, really well was their fourth

1325
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 14: round pick last year, Jacorey and Bennett in his second

1326
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 14: season out of Maryland. He's been their best cover guy

1327
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 14: so far this year. But this is a defense that

1328
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 14: you should be able to attack their twenty seventh in

1329
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 14: points per game, twenty ninth in rush yards. They're given

1330
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 14: up five point four yards of carry overall. That should

1331
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 14: help the ground game get going. They are asked and

1332
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 14: they are thirtieth in total yards. This is not a

1333
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 14: good defense. The Browns have got to get it going

1334
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 14: the next two weeks. You've got two teams that are

1335
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 14: really struggling on defense, and in one of the two Washington,

1336
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 14: they've been electric on offense. So that's that feels like

1337
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 14: shootout potential. But you've got to held up your end

1338
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 14: of the bargain. The Browns have no game so far

1339
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 14: two hundred passing yards, they have no games so far

1340
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 14: this year with three hundred total yards, and they have

1341
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 14: no games so far this year with twenty points. That's

1342
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 14: not gonna cut it. And we've heard a lot of

1343
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 14: people talk about the reasons for the offense and it

1344
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 14: comes down to execution, and yes, of course that's true.

1345
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 14: But this offense has got to get better, and get

1346
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 14: better in a hurry if you want to beat the

1347
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 14: Raiders and then try to put it together, stack some

1348
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 14: wins together and.

1349
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 4: Go into Washington the following week.

1350
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: Other than that it's been good though.

1351
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1352
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go through the list of the things that

1353
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: have been struggling.

1354
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 14: It's like, my god, it's like, well, those out come

1355
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 14: on second in the league in penalties, behind only the

1356
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 14: Baltimore Ravens. You lead the league in sacks allowed, So

1357
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 14: you have not protected your quarterback. You've been sex sixteen

1358
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 14: times for ninety four yards. That is thirty second in

1359
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 14: the National Football League. Here's a crazy one. And people

1360
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 14: are like, well, de Shawn always gets sacked. Deshaun Watson

1361
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 14: was sexed seventeen times in six games in twenty twenty two,

1362
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 14: and the reality is he's been sacked sixteen times in

1363
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 14: three games this year.

1364
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep, gotta get right. Got to get right.

1365
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: Will if it's out in Vegas? What do you I know,

1366
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: we'll talk about this a little bit tomorrow. What do

1367
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: you anticipate from a Browns fan show up out there?

1368
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Speaker 14: I think there will be a lot of Browns fans.

1369
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 14: I know a lot of people that are going to

1370
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 14: this game.

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Speaker 4: Now.

1372
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Speaker 14: I do know some people who after the performance on

1373
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 14: Sunday were like, you know what, I'm not going to

1374
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 14: this game. But I think there will be a ton

1375
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 14: of Browns fans out there. I know you got. I

1376
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 14: think Modes is going to be in the house. He's

1377
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 14: coming in for this one with his son Zach. So

1378
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 14: I think there will be people coming from kind of

1379
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 14: all over the country to go to this game. I

1380
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 14: know people in LA who will be there. I know

1381
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 14: people from a ton of people from Cleveland who are

1382
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 14: going to the game. So I think it's going to

1383
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 14: be a big Browns crowd. He mentioned Jason Horowitz, and

1384
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 14: I don't know if he if you guys talked aboutze,

1385
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 14: but that was my first He was my first.

1386
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,479
Speaker 4: Host on CBS. Come on, Yeah.

1387
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 14: When I used to do this Sunday morning they football show,

1388
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 14: Jason Horowitz was the host. So he and I have

1389
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 14: worked together a longo, like twenty years ago, uh CBS.

1390
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 14: Maybe maybe fifteen years ago, fourteen fifteen, fourteen years ago?

1391
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, oh that's cool.

1392
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: I couldn't play the great guy.

1393
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: I couldn't place where I in my head. I say

1394
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: this to give me I remember him either doing something

1395
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 2: with college football that I would listen to on my

1396
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: way to and from work, or there was there was

1397
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: something where I remember hearing him consistently and I couldn't

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01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: place where that was.

1399
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He is good dude though, and it was really fun interview.

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01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 14: Great dude, and uh yeah, like I said, he has

1402
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 14: been you know, he was with CBS.

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01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 4: I think he must. My guess is it would have

1404
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 4: been a CBS.

1405
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 14: Radio that you've already heard that you would have heard

1406
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 14: him on because he was with CBS at the time

1407
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 14: for sure.

1408
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: When you were when you guys were doing this stuff

1409
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: with the fantasy Yeah.

1410
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Speaker 14: Yeah, so yeah, he did, right, he was working for

1411
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 14: CBS at the time. He did do a lot of

1412
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 14: right and did a lot of college foo but he

1413
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 14: would call college football games.

1414
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and he's still doing it, so he's uh.

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Speaker 4: He took over for I mean, he's the one who

1416
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 4: replaced Brent Musburg.

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Speaker 2: Legend there. Man, you are looking live, You are looking

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Speaker 2: live kids. He's no doubt that's a soundtrack of all

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Speaker 2: of our youth.

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Speaker 4: That guy.

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Speaker 2: to Z. Let's start with our team. Who are your

1442
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: Browns plays this week? If any, I.

1443
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 14: Mean obviously you go with Amari Cooper. I like the

1444
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 14: Browns defense in this matchup as well, but Amari's probably

1445
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 14: the main guy. If if it were a situation where

1446
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 14: Jerome Ford were out, I think you'd have to give

1447
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 14: Deontay Forman a look against this Raiders defense. You know,

1448
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 14: you think about running backs against them. So far this year,

1449
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 14: they've all been productive. You know, you've had two one

1450
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 14: hundred yard rushers JK. Dobbins in Week one, Chuba Hubbard

1451
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 14: with one hundred and fourteen last week, and in between

1452
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 14: the Derek Henry with eighty four and a touchdown. So

1453
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 14: there's definitely going to be some success at the running

1454
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 14: back position. You know, you could think about in a

1455
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 14: flex spot. If Ford goes, you could give him a

1456
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 14: look there. If not, Deontay Forman would be a look.

1457
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 14: If Chief plays, obviously you would play him. Jerry Judy

1458
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 14: is a flex option, and you know, not starting Deshaun Watson,

1459
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 14: but if Andy Dalton can hang three hundred and three

1460
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 14: on this team, you'd like to think that that Deshaun

1461
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:15,479
Speaker 14: can do the same.

1462
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 2: All right, in terms of uh, let's do some big

1463
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: picture stuff then we'll get into the stuff for this week.

1464
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: The underwell, the guys who have disappointed and injuries with

1465
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: McCaffrey obviously, like that's that's gonna go down in history.

1466
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: It's so odd.

1467
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 4: Dude.

1468
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: I picked him twice number one overall. The other time

1469
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: he lost the entire season with Carolina, and now this year,

1470
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's ever going to play. Who knows.

1471
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: I know you you drafted him as well, Both him

1472
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: and CDs off to slow starts. Like it's been a

1473
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: very strange year on the fantasy side of things.

1474
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been. It's been a bummer.

1475
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 14: And I go back to it, and I know I've

1476
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 14: got some pushback for some people, But I really think

1477
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 14: Kesh Christian McCaffrey knows what's at stake. He knows you

1478
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 14: know that there are people who are playing this and

1479
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 14: some you know, are playing this for for cash prizes.

1480
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 14: Others are bragging rights what is But fantasy football is important.

1481
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 14: Whether you're playing for money or not, it doesn't matter.

1482
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 14: The money is totally irrelevant. I would think that for

1483
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 14: most people, at certain points, it becomes about just bragging

1484
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 14: rights with your friends. That's what everybody wants. So I

1485
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 14: do feel like he should have said something like, hey,

1486
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 14: he didn't have to say I'm not gonna play, but hey,

1487
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 14: if you draft me, make sure you get Jordan Mason Young.

1488
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 14: The young kid's been really coming along this year, something

1489
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 14: to that effect, because people are your season's ruined. There's

1490
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 14: a there's a league that I'm in with s and

1491
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 14: our first two picks were Christian McCaffrey and AJ Brown,

1492
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 14: who played a combined one game. You can't there's nothing

1493
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 14: you can do there. Injuries are a part of it,

1494
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 14: but when somebody doesn't even play week one, like AJ

1495
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 14: Brown played Week one and heard his hamstring, Okay, get it,

1496
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 14: got it.

1497
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Speaker 4: Chris Caffrey hasn't played.

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 2: No, and we don't know when he's going to play,

1499
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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 4: Think forget if.

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01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know if he's gonna play if when

1502
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: all of it, I think the forty nine ers did

1503
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: a dirty here, whether it's McCaffrey or Kyle who we love, Kyle,

1504
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: love John Lynch, love the operation, everything, But I don't

1505
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: think that there was complete honesty with him. Agree how

1506
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: much injury reports get scrutinized, and to me, from a

1507
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: fantasy perspective, there should be some transparency. I mean, it's

1508
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: big business. It's not for us. We're having fun, but

1509
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: it's big business.

1510
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 14: And yeah, absolutely yes, some people playing very high stakes leagues.

1511
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and for people in this sport, there's so many

1512
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: things that make the NFL and contribute to the NFL

1513
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: being just monster from a television rating one and fantasy

1514
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: is a huge part of its huge one game a

1515
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: week to talk about. It's the perfect sport for television

1516
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: and sports talk radio. It's absolutely the gambling aspect of

1517
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 2: it that people have a ball with, and it's one

1518
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: hundred percent fantasy football. Everybody plays fantasy football. It's a

1519
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 2: part of it. And I think they were disingenuous and

1520
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: I think that they should have been more clearvoyant with

1521
01:09:55,080 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: his condition. It was questionable on the Saturday of the opener.

1522
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 4: At what I'm right.

1523
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 14: What I'm saying is clearly clearly they did not think

1524
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 14: that he was going to go on ir without playing. No,

1525
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 14: because if they thought that, they just want to put

1526
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 14: him on ir R right away. So that tells me

1527
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 14: on some level there's that. But he had to know

1528
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 14: that he was not quite feeling right, and that's why

1529
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 14: I kind of think. Look, he's on the cover of

1530
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 14: Madden Okay, he's the number one pick. He knows how

1531
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,919
Speaker 14: fantasy football works. A great many aren't quote unquote traditional

1532
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 14: forty nine Ers fans are fans of his because of

1533
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 14: fantasy football. Fantasy football has done, people have become not

1534
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 14: just fans of their teams, but then they're fans of,

1535
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 14: you know, the players on their fantasy football teams. And

1536
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 14: so guys who have success you remember for a long time.

1537
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 14: I remember when I was young, one of the first

1538
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 14: leagues I ever won, was because Sean Bryson, a name

1539
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 14: from the past, had an unbelievable weeks like fifteen and

1540
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 14: sixteen that year and won me a fantasy title. I

1541
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 14: will never forget Sean Bryson. I would imagine most people say, who,

1542
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 14: who the heck is that exactly? But I remember him.

1543
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 14: And so when you have guys that are superstars, like

1544
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 14: kids you know love Justin Jefferson. Why because he's cool,

1545
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 14: he's great, But a lot of them probably have had

1546
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 14: them on their fantasy teams and he's been awesome for them,

1547
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 14: and so they're like, I love Justin Jefferson. So you

1548
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 14: kind of have there is a little bit in my mind,

1549
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 14: you know, to the people that Christian McCaffrey knows are

1550
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 14: going to do it, and in some cases like it's

1551
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 14: and again, he didn't have to come out and say, look,

1552
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 14: I'm not healthy, don't draft me. But what he could

1553
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 14: have he could have said very easily, you know, something

1554
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 14: along the lines of, hey, you know, I'm working my

1555
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 14: way back, but man, Jordan Mason's made the most of

1556
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 14: his opportunities. If you draft me, make sure you get

1557
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 14: Jordan Mason too, because then at least you have that

1558
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 14: starting running back with the forty nine ers. And I

1559
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 14: really do think that there is on some level that

1560
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 14: that kind of stuff is owed because Christian McCaffrey's jersey

1561
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 14: sales are what they are for a percentage of it

1562
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 14: because he's a forty nine er and forty nine Ers

1563
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 14: fans love him, and I'll get it, But there is

1564
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 14: a i'd imagine a rather significant percentage of every big

1565
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,759
Speaker 14: jersey that's being sold of an offensive skill position player

1566
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 14: that there's a big percentage of those that are being

1567
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 14: bought by people who don't root for their team, but

1568
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 14: root for them because of fantasy football.

1569
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: I have in my house in one well in two

1570
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: of the three boys room, there's a McCaffrey Niners jersey,

1571
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 2: and there's a McCaffrey Panthers jersey, and a large part

1572
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: of course, and I do think it's I mean, I

1573
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: do think there should have been a little bit more transparency. Yeah, hey,

1574
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm agreed. I'm not all the way there, all right.

1575
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: Waiver wire pickups this week. I guess what I'm interested

1576
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 2: in is how quick are you to give up on

1577
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 2: a draft pick?

1578
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 4: This is what you got?

1579
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 14: Agree, It depends on where you've picked them, Like, for example,

1580
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 14: Garrett Wilson has been massively disappointing.

1581
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 4: C J.

1582
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 14: Stroud's been massively disappointing, But you're not giving up on

1583
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 14: them yet. Know they get and round into form. But

1584
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 14: guys at the end of your roster that were more

1585
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 14: speculative plays that you thought were going to play bigger

1586
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 14: roles that so far haven't. If there's an opportunity, yeah,

1587
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 14: you make a move, Like right now, I think Roshan

1588
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 14: Johnson it sounds like they're gonna give him a crack

1589
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 14: in Chicago to be the main running back. DeAndre Swift

1590
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 14: is not by the way, it's not all his fault.

1591
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 14: He's averaging taking contact point four yards downfield, but when

1592
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 14: he has had it blocked up, he has not been

1593
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 14: as good, perhaps as he should have been.

1594
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 4: And so they're gonna give Roshan Johnson.

1595
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 14: So that's a guy that you have to get and

1596
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 14: you give an opportunity to obviously, you know, I'm trying

1597
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 14: to think guys like, for example, a Tank Bigsby. You

1598
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 14: still have to hold on to Tank Bigsby's unless you

1599
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 14: can get a Roshan Johnson, because Tank Bigsby, what you're

1600
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 14: hoping is not hoping, but you're saying, okay, should something

1601
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 14: happen to Travis Etn that's a guy who now is

1602
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 14: a difference maker on my team. And so those handcuffs,

1603
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 14: those are the ones you keep. But right now, the

1604
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 14: tight end position, it's been awful. You know, you can

1605
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 14: go ahead and make moves and go ahead and bring

1606
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 14: you know, swap guys out, give up on whomever you drafted.

1607
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 14: That's fine. Quarterback, same thing, you know, like if you

1608
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 14: have CJ. Stroud, yeah you gonna roll with him, but

1609
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 14: you might think about trying to pick somebody up who's

1610
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 14: been playing better than he has recently. You still believe

1611
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 14: that he's going to be good. But if, for example,

1612
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 14: like Justin Fields is on your waiver wire, why not,

1613
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 14: You're gonna get some more some running yards, You're gonna

1614
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 14: get some some work out of him. Why wouldn't you

1615
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 14: give Sam Donald a look? Sam Darnold at this point

1616
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 14: should not be on the waiver wire anymore. So, yeah,

1617
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 14: you're paying attention to those trends, but you're really churning

1618
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 14: much like an NFL team, you're turning kind of the

1619
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 14: bottom of your roster.

1620
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 4: That's where that's where it is.

1621
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 14: And by the way, guys, Patrick Mahomes is not a

1622
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 14: fantasy must start anymore and hasn't been for really two years.

1623
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 3: No.

1624
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 14: No, if you thought you were drafting him and he is,

1625
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 14: he's not. That's not the same offense, not same team

1626
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 14: at all. So you look there right now, I'd be trying.

1627
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 14: I think they'll figure it out in Miami and get

1628
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 14: a real quarterback there at some point. So like if

1629
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 14: you could buy low on a Tyreek Hill or a

1630
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 14: Jalen Waddle right now, do it. I think we're seeing

1631
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 14: pretty clear of the fact that guys who hold out

1632
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 14: like a CD lamb, that it takes them a little

1633
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 14: while to get going. It took Jamar Chase three weeks

1634
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 14: to get going. See Higgins in his first week back

1635
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 14: coming back from an injury.

1636
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 4: Not a holdout.

1637
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 14: But it takes guys a little bit of time to

1638
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 14: get going. So those are the guys that I like

1639
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 14: to try to buy low on right now. Like if

1640
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 14: you have a disgruntled Cede Lamb person, try to go

1641
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 14: get Ceedee Lamb. I think he's gonna be good. Garrett Wilson.

1642
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 14: I would bet after this week, you're gonna be able

1643
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 14: to trade for Garrett Wilson at a pretty good rate.

1644
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 14: Why he's getting Pat Sartan this week. And so Tar

1645
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 14: Sortan held Mike Evans the seventeen yards. No receivers had

1646
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 14: more than thirty yards. No opposing number one receivers had

1647
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 14: more than thirty yards against the Denver bron That I.

1648
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: Like that they do that. But as a quick injection there,

1649
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 2: I like that Denver just puts him on the best receiver.

1650
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 4: That's what they should That's what it should be.

1651
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: I like that, Like none, I got him and he's done,

1652
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 2: and he's got all dudes, Like he's shut down one

1653
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: dude after.

1654
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 4: It was what they've played.

1655
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: Pickens Pickens Evans and was it dk.

1656
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 4: DK metcalf week one Yep, it's exactly right.

1657
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they just put him on the best guy

1658
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: and he just goes to your point on Patrick Mahomes.

1659
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people would have this. And again,

1660
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: I would never bet against him in the postseason. I'll

1661
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: never do that. But so far this season, he's averaging

1662
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 2: twunored in nineteen yards passing per game. He's got five

1663
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:10,959
Speaker 2: touchdowns and four picks.

1664
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they could be oh in three.

1665
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 14: They could easily be oh in three, easily bo and three.

1666
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 4: But they're not. And that's somehow bind Away and people.

1667
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 4: I saw.

1668
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 14: Teddy Bruski I thought, had a really good comment that

1669
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 14: you know that they've entered finally where the Patriots got,

1670
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 14: where everybody thinks that their success is not only a

1671
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 14: product of the play on the field, but the league

1672
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 14: loves it and the refs want them to win, and

1673
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 14: this all of these things. Going back to the Cincinnati game.

1674
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 14: They had actually converted on that fourth down once and

1675
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 14: then they had to do it again because they called

1676
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 14: a penalty on Kansas City. Yeah, if they just wanted

1677
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 14: them to have the first down, they want to call

1678
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 14: the other penalty?

1679
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 2: No, no, correct.

1680
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's all nonsense.

1681
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,520
Speaker 14: But what he said is when you get that successful,

1682
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 14: consistent and that consistently successful, it gets to the point

1683
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 14: where people don't want to see you be successful anymore,

1684
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 14: and that's where the Chiefs are.

1685
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 4: And his advice then was just keep winning, keep doing ugly.

1686
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 4: You're winning.

1687
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 14: That's the whole point of That's the thing about this

1688
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 14: league that is more today than maybe ever, or perhaps

1689
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 14: I'm a prisoner of the moment, just because it feels

1690
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 14: like we're seeing a stylistic shift in what is you know,

1691
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 14: consistently successful. It's there are no style points in this league.

1692
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 14: There never have been. But there was a time when

1693
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,839
Speaker 14: like the path to winning was offense, and it feels

1694
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 14: like now it doesn't matter what your style is as

1695
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 14: long as you win, it counts all the same.

1696
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: Yes.

1697
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 14: And for the Bengals, by the way, their offense doesn't

1698
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 14: punt right, they hang thirty something on the Commanders, they lose.

1699
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 4: That's that's if you.

1700
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 14: Are having a referendum on Joe Burrow, then you're like, Okay,

1701
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 14: well we lost, yeah, but at least we feel good

1702
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 14: Joe Burrow's back.

1703
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 4: But there are no style points for losing that way.

1704
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 14: It's all about, ultimately what happens at the end of

1705
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 14: the game, and the good teams find a way to

1706
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 14: execute when it matters. And I think the thing for

1707
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 14: Browns fans to bring it back to the Browns. That's

1708
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 14: the most disappointing about anything that happened in a very

1709
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 14: disappointing loss of the Giants is that you had three chances.

1710
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 14: The Giants were trying to give you the opportunity to

1711
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 14: seize the moment and go ahead and win that game,

1712
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 14: and the Browns were incapable of doing it. They were

1713
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 14: incapable of executing when they needed to. Whether it's the

1714
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 14: Drome Ford and Deshaun Watson fumble on that handoff, whether

1715
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 14: it's a drop pass by Cedric Tillman that hits him

1716
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 14: right between the one and the nine on a perfect

1717
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 14: ball from DeShawn, or it's DeShawn not seeing the coverage

1718
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 14: the right way, being locked in on the slot and

1719
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 14: not getting the ball to Jordan Akens he didn't execute.

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01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: No, huh, I'm going to give you some to butcherss

1721
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: your point on the stylistic change in the league. There

1722
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 2: are currently thank you state school every once in a while.

1723
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 2: There are currently six players in the National Football League

1724
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: who are averaging more than two hundred and fifty yards

1725
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 2: passing per game. Okay, to start this year, there are

1726
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 2: a total of six of them.

1727
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 4: Andy D.

1728
01:18:55,479 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: Stafford stat well, he's only played one. Stafford Hurts, Jordan

1729
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: Love and Dalton Gino, Brock Purty and Dak Prescott.

1730
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 4: That's the list, Okay, have both played one game, both.

1731
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: Played one game. Dak Prescott leagues the NFL in yards

1732
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 2: passing per game at two hundred and eighty three point seven.

1733
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: So that's where we stand right now. Through three games.

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 14: We've had one game with three hundred and three touchdowns

1735
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:20,839
Speaker 14: in the season.

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01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 2: No, we've had two because Burrow got it. Two we've

1737
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 2: so too with a win, one with a win though. Yeah,

1738
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 2: all right, now, I just picked on thy nineteen. Guess

1739
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,759
Speaker 2: how many quarterbacks averaged more than two hundred and fifty

1740
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: yards passing per game in twenty nineteen twelve scant five

1741
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 2: years ago. I interest you in eighteen average more than

1742
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty. There were three quarterbacks in nineteen

1743
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 2: who averaged over three hundred yards passing a game. Jamis

1744
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: led the NFL in yards passing per game three hundred

1745
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: and nineteen. This is a different league. That is a

1746
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: forty yards per game different prence in five years, and

1747
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: it's three times as many two, three times as many

1748
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 2: two hundred fifty yard passers than that are happening currently.

1749
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 14: The crazy thing about that is that every rule change

1750
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 14: that's ever implemented is benefiting the offense, and specifically the

1751
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 14: passing offense.

1752
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 4: Right, I know that guys are faster.

1753
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 14: I think defensive lines are better than a rate at

1754
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 14: a level in which we have never seen before in

1755
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 14: the National Football League. I think that's true. It can't

1756
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,799
Speaker 14: just be that we've got linebacker making that much.

1757
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 4: Of a difference. It can't just be that. No, so

1758
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 4: is it?

1759
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 14: Is it quarterback play when at the time when we

1760
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 14: think that we thought in many ways this was going

1761
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 14: to be like a golden era of quarterback play where

1762
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 14: we just wrong. Are these guys just not as good

1763
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 14: as perhaps we thought they were.

1764
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: Seems like the real year it changed was after COVID

1765
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: SO twenty twenty, there were seventeen guys who averaged over

1766
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: two fifty Mahomes led the league. I mean Prescott average

1767
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 2: three seventy one. We only played five games. Holmes led

1768
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 2: the league at three sixteen that year. Deshaun was three

1769
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: oh one that year, three hundred one year. Actually, I

1770
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: mean Deshaun's unbelievable. In twenty twenty just nuts three good lord,

1771
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: seventy percent. It's amazing, like oh Man, seventy percent. Completions

1772
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 2: four and twenty three, eight point nine yards an attempt,

1773
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: three hundred and one point four per game, thirty three touchdowns,

1774
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 2: seven picks, good lord, wild. But the league is different.

1775
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't know where to you need. You need somebody

1776
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: like co Cell to say what's happening. That's it, Like

1777
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: somebody like that who can who knows the history of it,

1778
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 2: knows all of it, to say this is why this

1779
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 2: is happening, because nobody can pinpoint why it's happening, but

1780
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 2: it is at a at a wild wild rate. All right,

1781
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 2: coming up next, we'll hit you with the matchup. You

1782
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,840
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1784
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1793
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Speaker 2: your spot. Now time for the matchup. Did a little

1794
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 2: bit of our offense versus their defense earlier, my friend,

1795
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 2: Let's start with the Browns offense versus I'm sorry, the

1796
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: Browns defense versus that Raiders offense. And for that we

1797
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 2: go to duck Dizzy.

1798
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 14: All right, So the Raiders cannot run the football fifty

1799
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 14: one yards per game, that is dead last in the NFL.

1800
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 14: Two point eight yards per carry, dead last in the NFL.

1801
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 14: They are the number four passing offense. How about this

1802
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 14: there after in two hundred and forty four point seven

1803
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 14: yards passing per game, that's the number four passing offense

1804
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 14: in the NFL.

1805
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 4: That's number one in the AFC.

1806
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 14: In a con for Holmes and Stroud and Lamar and

1807
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 14: now I'm not even they had two games up to

1808
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 14: at least Josh Allen like then at Burrow. None of

1809
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 14: that makes any sense to me, But that's where they

1810
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 14: are through three weeks here, the Raiders. So this is

1811
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 14: not like the Giants where it was about Milik Neighbors,

1812
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 14: and we kind of stressed that and preached at Malik Neighbors,

1813
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 14: leak neighbors, leak neighbors. Well, he went out and got

1814
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 14: two touchdowns. He's also the signs for Jersey Jerry. For

1815
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 14: those of you who are wondering, by the way, Jersey Jerry,

1816
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 14: I don't know that you can go back to back

1817
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 14: weeks with who did he have last week?

1818
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: Last week was Garrett Wilson. Yeah, I didn't see what

1819
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 2: he did this week. Did he already do it?

1820
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 4: Yeah? He did. Neighbors Like Garrett, what you can't go at?

1821
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 14: I think the signs have to point you to somebody

1822
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 14: that is not like the most obvious persons.

1823
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy of the targets.

1824
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 14: Yes, Now, in his defense with Wilson, Wilson didn't score

1825
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 14: in the opener or the first two games, and then

1826
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 14: he did score on that one, So yes, that's wonderful.

1827
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 14: But come on, now, this one, Mylik Neighbors is a monster.

1828
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 14: He's like one of the best scevers in the NFL.

1829
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 14: All right, Anyway, this team is not like that. They

1830
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 14: will spread the football round. Davante Adams has they have

1831
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 14: four people on the team already with double digit receptions.

1832
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 14: DeVante Adams has eighteen for two h nine in a touchdown.

1833
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 14: He leads the team. Bowers their tight end as eighteen

1834
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 14: for one to ninety seven. Jacobe Meers fourteen for one

1835
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 14: fifty two in a touchdown. And then you gotta keep

1836
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 14: your eye on Trey Tucker only five to nine, but

1837
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 14: the guy can run. Last year averaged eighteen yards of catch.

1838
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 14: Last week's seven for ninety six in a touchdown. He's

1839
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 14: got eleven for one to thirty one in a touchdown.

1840
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 14: Their line on the interior is actually pretty good. Cody Whitehair,

1841
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 14: big free agent signing formerly of the Bears. He's the

1842
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 14: left guard, Andre James Dylan Parham the right guard. They

1843
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 14: have done a good job in the middle. The tackles

1844
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 14: have struggled. They got Colton Miller on one side. He's

1845
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 14: allowed five sacks this year. That's the most sex allowed

1846
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 14: by any offensive lineman in the NFL according to PFF.

1847
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 14: On the right side, it sounds like it's going to

1848
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 14: be their third round pick this year.

1849
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 4: DJ Glaize.

1850
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 14: Dj Glaize is giving up a sack in five pressures

1851
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 14: in the only game in which he has played this season.

1852
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 14: So I feel like the Browns have a great opportunity

1853
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 14: to at tack them out on the edges to go

1854
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 14: after DJ Glaize and Colton Miller. But then you've got

1855
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 14: you gotta be on your pass defense. Davante Adams, he

1856
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 14: doesn't really run vertical routes much anymore, but he still

1857
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 14: will run some you know, fades up the sideline, some

1858
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 14: back shoulders, and every now and then a big deep poster,

1859
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 14: a deep over, but mostly it's comebacks and outs and slants,

1860
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 14: and he's very, very good at that. Myers is just

1861
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 14: a solid receiver, three straight eight hundred yard seasons straight. Tucker,

1862
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 14: as I mentioned, that's the guy with the speed that

1863
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 14: you have to watch getting out and over the top

1864
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 14: of this defense. And then they'll throw it to Bauer,

1865
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 14: so they can throw the ball, they can't run it.

1866
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 14: We should be able to get them in third and long.

1867
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 14: They've already given up twelve sacks this year on the season,

1868
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 14: that is tied for twenty sixth in the NFL.

1869
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 4: So they give up a lot of sacks.

1870
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 14: So for us, you know, it's gonna be about Miles

1871
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 14: and Shelby and Zadarius, And I thought Shelby played great again,

1872
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 14: I want to point that out in this last game

1873
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 14: and Dalvin and Obo and Quentin Jefferson and Alex Wright

1874
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 14: and Sam Kamara getting that pressure, Joka and Jordan Hicks

1875
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 14: splitzing at times, and then on the back end just

1876
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 14: matching up. This is a game where MJ I think

1877
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 14: matches up much better with DeVante Adams, and he does

1878
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 14: a elite neighbor. So this is one where I don't

1879
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 14: know that you have to follow, because Denzel does give

1880
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 14: up a little bit of size to Devonte Adams. But

1881
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 14: I think either way you go there, you're in pretty

1882
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 14: good shape. Our defense should dominate this game. We're very

1883
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 14: good on third downs. Again, we're giving up number seven

1884
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 14: third down defense. The Raiders this year are the number

1885
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 14: twenty five third down offense. So get him in third

1886
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 14: and long, get after Gardner Minshew and make plays. He

1887
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 14: will throw you the football. He's got three picks already

1888
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 14: this season.

1889
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, And you mentioned it going

1890
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: the other way. We talked about that a little bit

1891
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: coming out of Ken Dorsey's press conference. You know, the

1892
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: thing to watch there is can we get back to

1893
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: what we are and what Kevin Stevanski has been and

1894
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 2: why he's had so much success, and that is running

1895
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 2: the football and then building things off of that. And

1896
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: they can't stop the run, so there should be some

1897
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: success there, my friend. A great job to you on that.

1898
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: We have a score coming up. There is a Thursday

1899
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: night game. You'll have to pay very close attention that

1900
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: that and so much more to come. You listen to

1901
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESP and Cleveland.

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01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,679
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Speaker 2: John z geron Thursday Night. That's tonight the Kevin Sevanski

1905
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 2: so coaching, Amari, You're going to join the guys. Get

1906
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: ready for the Browns and the Raids. There are two

1907
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 2: things that I can't say without doing the bourbon voice,

1908
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: and it's Raiders and g men, and we're getting them

1909
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: back to back.

1910
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 4: Well we are, and we've got the G Man working

1911
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 4: with us.

1912
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 3: Now.

1913
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 2: The G Man is right there. Yeah, he was in.

1914
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 2: He didn't seem pleased when I saw him come into

1915
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 2: the office in the middle, That's what I was right.

1916
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 2: It seemed like he was running a little hot.

1917
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 3: Well, we crammed two days in media availability into forty

1918
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 3: five minutes today, So that might be it.

1919
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: That could be why it could me Hey, it also

1920
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 2: looks like we're wearing the retro whites. We are Sunday,

1921
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 2: the retro whites with the white lids. That will be

1922
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: a gorgeous UNI matchup because their uniforms are perfect, perfect

1923
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: and so those two them in the black and silver

1924
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 2: and us in the all. Oh, what is going to

1925
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 2: be a gorgeous, gorgeous look?

1926
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 3: I give it Thursday night foosball. It's the Cowboys visiting

1927
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 3: the Giants. Al Michaels will call his twentieth career Cowboys

1928
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 3: Giants game tonight. Michael's first Cowboys Giants game in nineteen

1929
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 3: eighty six, when Dallas's head coach Tom Landry beat Bill

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Speaker 3: Parcells New York team. Michael's called the first game at

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Speaker 3: AT and T Stadium in Dallas in two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 3: when the Giants won on a game winning field goal.

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Speaker 3: Michael's also called Odell Beckham's one handed TD catch in

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Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. It is the Cowboys visiting the g Men.

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Speaker 3: Bo Bishop, You're here, you go first?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Michaels or Summer All called more

1937
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Speaker 2: Cowboys Giants games summer all. That'd be my hunch too,

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Speaker 2: because Michael's did Monday football and you get the AFC

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Speaker 2: two and some are all it feels like some are

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Speaker 2: all the Giants Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Every week and that every week. Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to you, buddy. The two times

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Speaker 2: you've done this on Thursday, you've nailed them both. Ill

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Speaker 2: the book. I'm well, listen. Man's gonna know his limitations.

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Speaker 2: I know mine. It's a struggle right now. Go ahead,

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Speaker 2: doctor Z.

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Speaker 14: How do you remember, folks, it's a Thursday. Look at

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Speaker 14: the camera, bo let them know that it's a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Thursday.

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Speaker 14: Dan times back to back games, over one hundred quarterback rating.

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Speaker 14: Is he the hottest quarterback in the NFL? I think so?

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Speaker 4: And therefore Danny Dimes and the.

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Speaker 14: Men keep it real close against the Cowboys Dallas twenty four,

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Speaker 14: Giants twenty one on a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: On a Thursday. We're back tomorrow on a football Friday.

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Speaker 2: The next level is coming up next. Thanks for listeningbody

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