1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: This week, my guest on the Velvet Edged podcast is 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Justin Anderson, who is one of the top hair colorists 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, with clients like Jennifer Aniston, Gwyneth Paltrow, Chelsea Handler, 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: and Margot Roby. He is also the co founder of 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: successful hair product line DP Hugh. As admirable as Justin's 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: success looks on paper, it's also the story behind him 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: that is just so fascinating. Being a gay man from 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: a Mormon family with a passion for hair was not 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: something Justin accepted about himself from an early age, and 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't until later in life when he finally accepted 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: his dreams and decided that he would follow them at 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: all costs that he found peace and success. Now with 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: some of the most high profile clients in Hollywood, Justin 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: is not only their hair colorist, but also their relationship guru, 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: giving some of Hollywood's hottest stars tips on how he 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: found a successful relationship. He gives us insight into the 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: top complaint he hears from women about their relationships, as 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: well as what he thinks men really want from their partner. Honestly, 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the answer may surprise you. It did mean. Here's Justin 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: don't be nervous. A little bit nervous. We just had 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: the most interesting conversation and I gave you a mike, 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're like, oh my god, 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm nervous. That's always how it happens. It's like before 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: the mic gets turned right. So I'm here with Justin Anderson. 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: He has the celebrity hair color is and co founder 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: of DPH Hair Products now DP Hugh House, which we'll 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: get into later. But I'm so fascinated with you because 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I have so much respect for what you've done business wise, 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: just as a hairstylist. Thank you. You're super savvy. Thank you. 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: Let me just mentioned too, he has some of the 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: top name celebrity clients. I'm gonna name a few, tell 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: me if I'm I miss like some of the big ones. 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: But Miley Cyrus, Gwynneth Paltrow, Jennifer Anderson, Chelsea Handler, Chris 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and Cavalary, which is how we know each other. Kay 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: lim Bristo, I mean basically like all the top bachelor girls. 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 1: Oh well that's a big one. We love her. Charlie. 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I just made Charlie our own really blonde right before 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: the Oscars, so I've kind of made a name in 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: like the blonde world, but um, I do every color. 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I have to tell people that all the time because 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: I do. I do every color. But if you think 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: about it, I think it's just turned into like my 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: most famous, well known clients are blonde, you know, so 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: I've kind of gotten the name is like the blonde 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: guy in l A. But I do lots of other colors, 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: and I can't think of any right now. When Molly 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: Shannon is a brunette, the one brunette I saw on 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: your Instagram, Like I went to look to see if 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: you do any other colors, and I was like, oh, 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: there's Mollis. Well it's funny because like I'll actually get 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot of crap for it, Like so not a 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: lot of crap. I I feel fortunate that I don't 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: get a lot of like trash talk on Instagram and 54 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But the one thing people 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: will say is like, gosh, do you do anything other 56 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: than blondes? You know? And it's kind of like if 57 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: you think about it, like I'm a hair color, so 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: people find me right, So it's like at a certain 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: point it's like I think my very first celebrity client 60 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: was Kirsten Duns back when she was doing Marie Antoinette 61 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: and the Spider Man movies and when you do and 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: Kristin Cavalry was like one of my first celebrity clients, 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: you know. And I think when you're known for like 64 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: those two people, immediate it's like, oh, he's the blonde guy. 65 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: Some blonds just started trickling in and it's just it 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: kind of turns into that and then cut two. Now 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: I have my own product line, DPHU, which is all 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: color based products to take care of your hair color 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: at home. And my team here at DP he was like, justin, 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: we've got to like mix it up with it. You've 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: got to like show really other types of hair. Um, 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: just because it's like, of course I know how to 73 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: do every type of hair, and our line covers every 74 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: type of hair, you know. I think we do the 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: best with all of our blonde products right now, but 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: we have products for all different types of hair. But yeah, 77 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: it's been a challenge to kind of get different colors 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: in my chair. That's so interesting to hear because one 79 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: of the things I look at you and I'm like, 80 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: he's so smart, because he really honed in on one thing, 81 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: and especially in the market like l A where it's 82 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: so competitive, it seems like if you can specialize in one, 83 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: you can really make a name for yourself. That's so true. 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: And I really really believe in that. And when I 85 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: was strictly in the salon doing clients, I really did. 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: I focused on that, that blonde thing, you know. And 87 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: when I used to go to hair shows and I 88 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: would travel and stuff, they would always call me the 89 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: blonde guy. And every class that I taught was about 90 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: blonde hair and stuff. And I was fine with that 91 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: because I love it, you know, and my background a 92 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: little bit. When I was a kid, I was obsessed 93 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: with hair. I was fascinated with the way that the 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: sun and the water kind of made hair blonde. Both 95 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: of my parents are blonde, and my siblings are blonde, 96 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: and both my parents surf, so we were always at 97 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: the beach. So I was just fascinated with this blonde hair. 98 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: So that's kind of what I got into. But then 99 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: cut to having my own line, It's like I wanted to, 100 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: of course make products for everybody, and um, I realized 101 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: that every hair color has issues. You know, Brunettes who 102 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: colored their hair. They always complain about the red that 103 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: comes into their hair. I'm sure you think about so 104 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: reds and brass. So it's like, we have a shampoo 105 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: that cuts out brass out of brunette hair, you know, 106 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: and you know hair, It's like for blondes, it's blonde's 107 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: turned yellow and kind of orangey. So like a purple 108 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: shampoo is going to cancel that brass out of the hair, 109 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: whereas darker brunette tones pull red. So um, the blue 110 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: cuts it out. So we have the blue shampoo which 111 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: kind of cuts out that. So all of our products 112 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: take care of hair color like in between salon visits. Right, 113 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: I love that about the DPGU products that I did 114 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: read a lot about that. I want to talk a 115 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: little bit about you first started, you worked at other salons, right, 116 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: how long did you do that? And like have you 117 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: always just done color? Yeah, I've always done color, and um, 118 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was one of those kids that was, um, 119 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: I was obsessed with hair in my whole life, Like 120 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: I was saying, I really really loved hair color in particular. 121 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: I think growing up with two brothers, Um, you know, 122 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: I have one sister, but with my two brothers who 123 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: were really really into sports. And I grew up in 124 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: a really big Mormon family and it was super athletic. 125 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: Everybody played sports, and the whole family business was construction, right, 126 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: So all these macho cousins around me and stuff, and 127 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: then here I am like, just like this little gay 128 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: cousin that in my hair. I love hair and I 129 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: love beauty, and I love shouldn't makeup and all that 130 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But I never got to talk about 131 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: when I was a kid and I went to college, 132 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: and I ended up going to college with like five 133 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: of my best guy friends from high school. We all 134 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: joined the same fraternity I was going to. I was 135 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: like a total frat and it was this thing where 136 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: it was like I was continuing this thing where I 137 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: was suppressing who I really wanted to be. You know, 138 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted to be in this hair world, 139 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: but I was I was so afraid of telling anyone, 140 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it just hit me one day. 141 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: I think I was literally like at a frat party, 142 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: like trying to like fit in, you know. And don't 143 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: get me wrong, I love that. I love to part 144 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: me a party with you, like I love a good party. 145 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: But like I was there and I was just like, 146 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: what am I doing? And I was like, do I 147 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: want to continue this for the rest of my life? 148 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: And I want to, like, really, right now, think about 149 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: what I want the rest of my life to be about. 150 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: And I know that I want to somehow be in 151 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: the hair world. And one of my best girlfriends from 152 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: high school was in beauty school and I was so 153 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: jealous of her. So the summer, right before I went 154 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: back to college, I called my parents. I remember they 155 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: were in Hawaii and I was so freaking nervous and 156 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: I told my parents, you know, not going back to 157 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: college this year, and I'm gonna go to beauty school. 158 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: And my parents lost their mind. My mom was so upset, 159 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: like she was so upset, and it was one of 160 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: those things where it's all right, if this is what 161 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: you want to do. You know, you're completely cut off. 162 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: You're not cut off from the family, but cut off financially. 163 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: We're not you know that you have a college fund, 164 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: it's no longer because you're not going to college. And um, 165 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 1: I got a job here in West Hollywood and um, 166 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: waiting tables and I put myself through beauty school. But 167 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: it's this thing where it's like I really feel like 168 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm successful at what I do because I chased my dream. 169 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just going to say that. And you 170 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: started at such a young age at owning yourself. How 171 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: important is that. I think that's so important, especially in 172 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: a creative business, just to own what you love. It's 173 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 1: kind of how you've gotten to be this blonde guy, 174 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: Like you're so good at blonde, so you own it. 175 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: And now it's transitioned into having your own line and 176 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: explain to people what d P Hue is. So d 177 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: P hu it's a we have a full line of products. 178 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think right now we're working with close 179 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: play forty skews, so it's forty different types of products. 180 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: And all of our products take care of your hair 181 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: color in between salon visits, so color fading. We even 182 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: have like root touch up sprays to cover grays that 183 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: were just about to launch. Yeah that ours are so good, 184 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: Like we made it so that you can flip the 185 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: nozzle back and forth so you have a finer spray 186 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: or a thicker spray, like if you want to do 187 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: the roots or like just little right right around the 188 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: temple of the hairline. Um, because I really believe that 189 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: with hair color, you shouldn't um cover your gray hairs 190 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: if you don't need to. So if you can kind 191 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: of like push it for longer, you're better off. So 192 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: all of our products take care of color in between 193 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: salon visits were at all old to beauty stores, which 194 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: was like huge for us, like really put us on 195 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: the map because I think there's close to beauty stores 196 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: like actual stores. And then we're on Alta dot com, 197 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: We're on Sephora dot com, Nordstrum's anthropology, and so we're 198 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: we're growing really really fast, and um, it really was 199 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: always my dream. Like, like I said, I wanted to 200 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: be in hair. I wanted to be in the beauty industry, 201 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: but I knew I always wanted to have my own 202 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: own line or something, you know. When I was a kid, 203 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: I like weirdly would watch the Home Shopping Network all 204 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: the time, and I was like obsessed with people pushing 205 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: their products because I love like the passion they had 206 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: behind it. I would watch it all the time when 207 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: I was a kid, Like I was obsessed with it, 208 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: and in my head, I was like I want to 209 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: be on that one day and then cut too, I 210 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: did HS and for a while we've done it with 211 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: DPHU and I hated it, to be honest, but it 212 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: but it was like a bucket list thing. And I'm 213 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: a really big believer um in. You know, if you 214 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: know what you want to do, you chase it, you 215 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: make it happy, and um, we're the only ones that 216 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: can do that, right. How do you not feel threatened 217 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: creating a product that's going to keep people out of 218 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the salon? Though it sounds like what you're doing is 219 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: giving people ways to fix their hair color at home. 220 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: That's like the biggest Okay, So when I was on Instagram, 221 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, you build this this following, and um, I've 222 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: built a good following for a hair dresser. I'm not 223 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: a celebrity. I'm a hairdresser, you know, and I've I've 224 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: built this big following of people who follow me and 225 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: they're all hairdressers, right. And then all of a sudden, 226 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: I start to launch um dphue and that I'm a 227 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: part of this brand and whatever what my messages and 228 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: a lot of hair dressers like, what are you doing? 229 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: You're pulling people out of the chairs and this is 230 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: our business and it's actually I'm doing the exact opposite. 231 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: I really really believe that I think that no one 232 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: should actually highlight their own hair or actually color their 233 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: own hair. I think you should always have a professional, 234 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: right because you need a professional. I you need somebody 235 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: to kind of to guide you through the process. But 236 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: I really do think the thing that was missing was 237 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: keeping your color looking really beautiful in between salon visits. 238 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: So I'd have these women who would come in, I'd 239 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: give them beautiful highlights, and then they leave in about 240 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: two weeks later, just from water or the sun or 241 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: how much we shampoo our hair, that the color would 242 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: start to fade and you're not ready to go back 243 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: to the salon two weeks later. But you should have 244 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: be able to have like the tools at home to 245 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: take care of your color, to keep it looking good. 246 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: And what that does for hair to us there is 247 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: the longer our hair color looks good, our client's hair 248 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: color looks good. In between salon visits, they get more 249 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: people ask them more like whods ther color looks amazing? 250 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: You know, and so it starts to build. So I 251 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: say to hear to us all the time, I'm like, you, guys, 252 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: we know the tricks, like we need to teach our clients. 253 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you can gloss in between. I have 254 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: a full line of at home glosses. Right, They're not 255 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: permanent color, they're semi permanent. But like, um, if somebody 256 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: colors their hair like a dark, rich brown and it 257 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: fades after two weeks, and I mean the bottom line, 258 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: people can't afford to go to the salon every two weeks, 259 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, So if we can give them these products 260 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: at home to kind of maintain that color, it just 261 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: makes our work look better even longer. And I feel 262 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: like the more you take care of your clients. I've 263 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: always believed in this. The more I take care of 264 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: my clients, the longer I can't get rid of clients. 265 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: You know. Now I'm not in a salon anymore, and 266 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: so i'd officially kind of like cut my clientele off. 267 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: And it's a whole another story, but everyone was so upset. 268 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: But I feel like the reason I really maintained a 269 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: really heavy clientele for a long time, I always had 270 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: waiting list. I was the big busiest person when I 271 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: was in the salon is because I really took care 272 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: of my clients. And I by saying that, I also 273 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: mean being really honest with them. If somebody comes into 274 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: me and they say, hey, I want my hair to 275 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: be platinum, and I'm like, your hair will break off, Like, 276 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: we can't do it. Your hair is destroyed. It can't 277 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: be platinum blonde. And if they say no, no, no no, 278 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: I want it, I'm just like, I'm sorry, I won't 279 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: be the one to do it. And I said, you know, 280 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to see somebody else. What would happen. 281 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: They'd go see somebody else, it would break off, and 282 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: they'd come back to me, and then all of a sudden, 283 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: that client would stay with me for ten years there 284 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: with me. You know. It's like and I feel like 285 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: people just especially in the beauty world. I mean you 286 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: know this. We know, uh, we know what people need. 287 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: We know how far you can push it. You know, 288 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: we know what color works on certain people. If somebody's 289 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: clearly like a beautiful brunette and they want to be 290 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: super blonde. As much as I love doing blonde hair, 291 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that if it doesn't work with 292 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: their skin tone. So if you're really really honest with people, um, 293 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: they trust you. I said, I just trust you. Something 294 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: I read that I didn't even think about. But this 295 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: is specifically blonde. I think I deal with this with 296 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: my highlights sometimes. Is that the products you guys use 297 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: like you create a clear base. So because blonde picks 298 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: up everything, it's the craziest thing. So like, yeah, when 299 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: I will make somebody really really blonde, and years ago, 300 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: when I first started doing hair, i'd make people really 301 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: really blond, and then like a month later they'd come 302 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: back and they're like, gosh, I loved it when I 303 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: left the salam but now it's like it's not as bright, 304 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, or it's a little bit brass, and I'm like, 305 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: I swear that's not the color that I was doing. 306 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, what is going on? And there 307 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: was a really popular product out at the time, which 308 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: I won't name the name of it, but it was 309 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: an oil that everybody was using and it was a 310 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: dark yellow oil. You know, it had like you know 311 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: what I'm say it is, but everyone was obsessed with 312 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: this oil and everybody was using it. Well, it's a 313 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: dark pigment. It has like a dark yellow color, right, 314 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: So they're putting it on their hair and it's dinging 315 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: out the blonde hair. So they'd come back and we 316 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: have to bleach out. So it's just like you're like 317 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: constantly fighting this problem. And I'm like sitting there thinking, 318 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, blonde hair is essentially like a white T 319 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: shirt right, like has no pigment to it at all. 320 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: If you wore a white T shirt every day for 321 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: six weeks, it's gonna be yellow, you know. Um, And 322 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: so all of our products, yeah, like for the blonde, 323 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: it's all very color specific. Are oil. I believe oil 324 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: is the best thing for hair. I think that you know, 325 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: the more we shampoo, the more we style and blow dry, 326 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: we pull the good oils out of the hair. And 327 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: oils what protects our hair. It's what keeps it like shiny, 328 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: keeps it strong. But we strip all that oil out. 329 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: So I think people should always add oil back into 330 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: the hair so our oil is completely it's really really 331 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: lightweight and completely clear. Um. Fragrance also adds a lot, 332 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: So all of my products keep color in mind, you know, 333 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: waste of fragrance adds a lot. To like your hair too. 334 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Fragrance does. And um, nobody get mad at me. These 335 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: are just my opinions. And we're all allowed to have 336 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: frainions because some people love shampoos that smell really really strong. 337 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: Right if you think about what a fragrance is, most 338 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: of the time, fragrance is backed by a lot of alcohol, right, Well, 339 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: alcohol is going to pull color out of their hair. 340 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: So I'm a very big believer and don't put really 341 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: smelly ship in your hair. You know, put us a 342 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: great smelling lotion on, or put a great smelling perfume on, 343 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: but in your hair. We want to keep our hair 344 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: as clean as possible, like clean and uh. We don't 345 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: want to strip things, pull things out of it. We 346 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: don't want to add a lot to it. One of 347 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: my biggest things I feel like people we've been taught 348 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: since a young age that you should shampoo every day, 349 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: like when you brush your teeth every day, but you 350 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: should shampoo. Shampoo is terrible. It's like sampagne. If you 351 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: had your favorite T shirt and you threw it in 352 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: the washing machine every day, it breaks down the fiber 353 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: and the shirt starts to tear apart, it loses its color. 354 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: So one of our biggest seller, our biggest seller from 355 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: the DP line is the A c V Rints. It's 356 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: an apple cider vinegar based rinse and it cleans your 357 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: hair similar to shampoo, but it doesn't SuDS up. It's 358 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: not a detergent, so it's not pulling all the good 359 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: oils out of the hair, and it doesn't strip the color. 360 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: So I tell people, the more you can use the 361 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: A c V rints And I realize that people are 362 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: always gonna want to use a shampoo. Maybe one day 363 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: you want to have like a really clean head of hair. Um, 364 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: I say, the more you can use the A c 365 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: V the better, Except it gives your hair break from 366 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: over shampooing. So the actual product though, seeing how people 367 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: would say they shampoo so much because their hair gets 368 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: so really that it looks gross. So this ABC will 369 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: take a little bit of that apple side of vinegar. Um. No, 370 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: So here's the thing about that I have. This is 371 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: like my favorite topic in the whole world. Bore people 372 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: out there. But the thing is, if you think about it, 373 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: we don't need to shampoo our hair like people way 374 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: back in the day, they didn't shampoo their hair. You know, 375 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: I this is gonna sound gross, but I never shampoo 376 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: my hair. I only used adverse shampoo my hair. I'll 377 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: shampoo it if I get highlights. I don't like getting 378 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: highlights at often or if I m when I go 379 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: in to get a hair cut. Most of the time 380 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: I go into the hair to get a haircut with 381 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: wet hair. But a lot of times if if I 382 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: go in and I go from the gym or whatever, like, 383 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: I'll let them shampoo it, you know. But I only 384 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: use the a CD rents at home, and I swear 385 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: to you, I do hot yoga every day. I'm a 386 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: bit I'm really big on working out, so I sweat everything. 387 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: My hair never smells, it never gets greasy, and I 388 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: swear it's because I haven't stripped the good oils out 389 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: of it. So when you stop shampooing, your scalp evens out, 390 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: it's not producing so much oil. If you're stripping the 391 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: good oils off of your scalp every day, it's going 392 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: to start to overproduce oils because it wants to compensate. 393 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm also a firm believer, and I never used chapstick. 394 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I haven't used chapsticks since I was a kid. But 395 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: if you think about it, the more you use chapsticks, 396 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: your body gets used to it, and then your body 397 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: starts craving, and so you start getting chapped lips all 398 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: the time. I don't wear deodor and I'll only wear 399 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: deodor and if I know that, like I'm going, uh, 400 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: when do I wear deodor? And like if I was 401 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: going to do a big workout and I had to 402 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: go somewhere right after, like ILL used deodor maybe like 403 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: once a week, you know, but if you think about it, 404 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: you put deodor on every day, your body is going 405 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: to start to freak out. And it's that's just you 406 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: sweat more in your armpits. Like it's gross, but you 407 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: like you start to sweat sweats good but normal but 408 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: a normal amount of sweat. You know. I just think that, 409 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: like our bodies are really really smart and they know 410 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: how to take care of themselves, and we mess with it. 411 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: You know, with modern simons, there's so many cool things 412 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: that we've we have now to take care of problems. 413 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: But like in oily scalp, I really don't think is 414 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: a real thing. I think that if you started to 415 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: train your scalp to just be rinsed, like using the 416 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: a CV rinse orm rinsing your hair more after workouts. 417 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: You know. Um, I realized that when people have damage 418 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: from hair color, you want to put condition or through 419 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: the ends and whatnot, or a really good oil. But 420 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: we do not need to shampoo our hair like we 421 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: think we do. Yeah, I only I tell people all 422 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: the time that I only shampoo my hair probably every 423 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: seven days because I have extensions. And people say like, 424 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: how do you take such good care of them? Because 425 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: they might last forever. But they're like, how did you 426 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: get up to seven days? I'm like, you just do it. 427 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: You just gotta stop and then train your hair. And 428 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: my hair does not get greasy. Well, it's going seven days. 429 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you have the trick. Imagine if you were 430 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: washing it every other day, and I think you know not, 431 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: I think you'd know because you do know you you're 432 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: in this business. But people wash their hair a lot, 433 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy to me. Every day people wash their hair. 434 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: And now the crazy thing is with things like blow 435 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: dry bars popping up everywhere people go and they get paid, 436 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: they pay for blow dry, so they wash their hair, 437 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: they dry it a lot more, and I'm just noticing 438 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: a lot more breakage happening and really dry hair. And 439 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: it's people are washing and drying every day or every 440 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: other day. And the real real trick to really healthy here, 441 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: you know. Miley Cyrus is a client of mine, and 442 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: I did Miley's hair when she was on the Banger's 443 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: tour and it was completely platinum and it was really 444 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: really short, and when she wanted to grow it out, 445 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: I we had this conversation over and over where I 446 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: was like, you need to not wash your hair all 447 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: the time. You need to not blow it out. It's 448 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: really hard with celebrities because celebrities have to have their 449 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: hair styled for work. Right Jennifer Anderson a client of mine, 450 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: and every time she does a movie or right now 451 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: she's doing a TV show and whenever she's working, I 452 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: noticed a total difference in her hair. It's because it's 453 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: being styled. It's all the heat style. So it's really 454 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: really not that hard. It's like, if you get a 455 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: good blow out and your scalp was pretty much even down, 456 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: making it last seven days is key. Like that's how 457 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: you're going to avoid break it. That's how you're gonna 458 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: keep your hair healthy. Your hair is so shiny, and 459 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: I know that you color, you do highlights, and but 460 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: your hair is so shiny, and it makes so much 461 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: sense that you don't blow it dry all the time. 462 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: And then don't shampoo, so obviously every client is friend. 463 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: You just mentioned a lot of your clients are on 464 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: set all the time. Talk me through, like what would 465 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: happen when someone comes to sit in your chair? Because 466 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: I feel like the reason people trust you so much 467 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: as you are so honest. So what's one of the 468 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: first things you look at in your client and what 469 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: are you really trying to accomplish when they first sit 470 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: down when they sit in the chair. You know, I 471 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: I love my job because it sounds cheesy, and I'm 472 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: not trying to be cheesy, but like, since I was 473 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: a kid, like I I I loved when women felt beautiful, 474 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: Like I loved it. I loved watching my mom put 475 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: on makeup, and I loved seeing the confidence that she 476 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: had when she had makeup on. Um, I loved beautiful 477 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: women since I was a kid. I'm a gay man, 478 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: but I love beautiful. I check out women more than 479 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: I check out man, just because I love like a beautiful, 480 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: confident woman. And what makes a woman feel beautiful and 481 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: confidence when they look their best? You know? And um, 482 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: It's funny because when I very first started doing hair, 483 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: I kind of felt guilty. I felt like I'm in 484 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: this superficial business that seems shallow to some people, but 485 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: it's really really not. You know, beauty is such an 486 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: important thing, and bed is different for all types of people. 487 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: But whatever makes you feel beautiful and it makes you 488 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: feel confident is amazing. Right. So when somebody sets in 489 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: my chair, I immediately look at them. I look at 490 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: their eye color, their skin color. Um. I have a 491 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: huge rule of mine. I never talk crap about other 492 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: people's work. I think that's such a such a tacky thing. 493 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: If someone sits in my chair, even if they say 494 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: to me, oh my god, my hair is destroyed the 495 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: last girl who colored it, like, um, look how bad 496 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: these highlights or whatever, like, I'll just be like, no, 497 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: it's it's fine, you're like whatever, let's stick to what 498 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: we're doing today, you know. Um, just because I think 499 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: that's tacky. Like, so hair dressers, if anyone's listening out there, like, 500 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: don't talk crap. It doesn't make you look better, you 501 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It doesn't make you look better 502 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: to put down somebody else's work, you know. Um, So 503 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: I immediately just start to look at what would look 504 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: really good on them. And I'm very very honest. Um, 505 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: I think that A lot of people, probably all over 506 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: the country, but a lot here in l A want 507 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: to be blonder and blonder and blonder. And a lot 508 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: of times you get your first set of highlights, you 509 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: walk around, everyone's like, oh my god, you look amazing. 510 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: What did you do? And it's like, oh, I did 511 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: highlights and getting all those compliments and the attention for 512 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: it makes you like, oh me, if I do a 513 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: little bit more, you know, get more. So a lot 514 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: of people who sit in my chair, they want more 515 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: and more and more, and I have to talk them back. 516 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: I have to be like, the reason that you don't 517 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: feel like your hair color is specially anymore is because 518 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: you have so many highlights in your hair that nothing 519 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: is standing out, like there's no dimension exactly. So the 520 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: mom like when people show me pictures in my chair, 521 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: it's always that contrast, the beautiful blonde or like a 522 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: Giselle who's a beautiful brunette with like those like or 523 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: your highlights, like you have the right touches of highlights. 524 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: There's all that contrast, and a lot of people just 525 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: think more and more and more. It's like lip filler 526 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: or it's like, yeah, all of that kind of stuff, 527 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: and so I feel like my job is to be 528 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: the professional I and kind of look at them and 529 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: I have a very honest conversation with them, and I 530 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: have no problem saying, you know, maybe we're not a match. 531 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: You know. It's like, I think that you should be 532 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: a bit more natural, and um, if you don't feel 533 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: that way and you want to go much blonder, I'm 534 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: not the guy for you because I don't want to 535 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: do I don't want that to be my work walking 536 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: around right. So you have you have these teach that 537 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: say I'm a cool blonde, which I love. They're so cute. Um, 538 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: but do you think cool blonde? Is that the way 539 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: to go? Do you ever do something a little warmer, 540 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: like more golden? So I have I have these sweatshirts 541 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: and T shirts to say I'm a cool blonde. And 542 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of just a play off of It could 543 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: mean cool and ashy like an ashy book, or it 544 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: can literally mean I really it's just like I'm a 545 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: cool blonde, you know. And it's a funny thing. I 546 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: think that people will like want to hate on blonde. Lately, 547 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: I feel like blondes get discrimination, Like everyone loves a blonde. 548 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: But I mean it's just like whatever, we don't need 549 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: to go into that, we don't even get all deep 550 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: like that. But so it's a it's a play like 551 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: dumb blonde all that kind of stuff. So it's just like, um, 552 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: you know. I also, yeah, I think it's just I'm 553 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: a cool blonde whatever. But my thing is, I actually 554 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: really don't like Ashley blonde. I don't like I don't 555 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: like white white blonde hair. I don't like silvery blonde hair. 556 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's flattering. I think that when you 557 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: have like those funky silver colors, you have to wear 558 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: a lot of makeup your hair. I like hair that 559 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: can be effortless. Like I want a girl to walk 560 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: out of a workout and her hair is messy or 561 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: um wear messy hair, like just her natural texture and 562 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: it looks really really beautiful. And when it looks the 563 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: most beautiful is when there's good dimension in it and 564 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: it's the right tones and it's like the sun and 565 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: the water. Would never make your hair in ashy silver white. 566 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: Some people can pull it off, but they're usually like 567 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: they have like that Swedish blonde natural days, so they 568 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: can have those real white hotles. So they're specific people 569 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: who can have that really cool blonde color, but a 570 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: lot of times it just doesn't work for people. So no, 571 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: I actually don't like that. I think Instagram's really mess 572 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: that up. You see ashy hair all over Instagram, and 573 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: so I get people bringing in these pictures and first 574 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: of all, there are a lot of filters, you know, 575 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: so it's all about like lighting and then the hair 576 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: dust all put a filter on it. Because ashy hair, 577 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: essentially what it is white blonde hair is all the 578 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: pigments pulled out of your hair, right, so when your 579 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: hair has no pigment, it's like an empty straw, Like 580 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: that ship is brittle. So it's just like these women 581 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: who are going white, white, white white. It just starts 582 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: breaking away and then all of sudden putting tons of 583 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: extensions in it, and it's just like this battle. Um. 584 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: But every once in a while it's a fun look. 585 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: Like if I know, like the Skinny Confidential is a 586 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: friend of mine, Lauren, she has a blog and everything 587 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: she wanted to go platinum white. And I know that 588 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: Lauren is all about makeup and she does her hair 589 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: and she wears the look right, and she's like and 590 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: I was like, Lauren, here's the thing you like to 591 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: keep long hair, though we can't forever keep you ashy blonde, 592 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: and she totally got it. She's like, no, I just 593 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: want to have like a moment of this. So I 594 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: think it's fun to play with it. But for everyday style, 595 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: I just don't think Ashley here is really not flattering. 596 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: If you think about a woman with like ashy hair 597 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: wearing no makeup, her hair is not styled, it really 598 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: washes you out. It's true. I'm not a fan of that. 599 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: I love watching you talk about hair right now. You're 600 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: so passionate. It's such an art and I do think 601 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's like we talked about. You create these 602 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: products that people can do stuff at home, but it 603 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: is so important to find a hair stylist who looks 604 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: at this. I think in the way that you're describing, 605 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: which is just every client is different, you're going to 606 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: really work with their natural role tones and eye colors 607 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. How do you keep yourself inspired 608 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: artistically with this kind of stuff? You know, it's really 609 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: funny because I've been doing this job now for what 610 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: fifteen years, and now I um, you know, up until 611 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: just recently, I stopped doing busy salon days. There were 612 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: points where I was doing twenty clients a day in 613 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: the salon, back to that color clients, and it was 614 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: a lot, and I was still having fun, but I 615 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: was getting burnt out. But once I really started really 616 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: getting into my brand DPHU and working on that and 617 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: trying to do clients, it was too much. So I 618 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: just recently kind of cut them all the clients out 619 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: and I just work with my really big celebrities and 620 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: I work with influencers to kind of promote the brand 621 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: and stuff. But the way that I stay inspired, it 622 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: goes back to that thing, like I genuinely love what 623 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: I do. Like I'm when I'm in the car and 624 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: I'm driving into to work and I'm gonna work on 625 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm doing hair color at the time. I'm happy when 626 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing hair and I'm highlighting hair, like I'm happy. 627 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: It's my happy place. I feel like I'm like painting 628 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: and I'm creating. And so I feel really really fortunate 629 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: that no matter what happens with this brand, I still 630 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: get to do what I'm passionate about. You know. It's like, um, 631 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: it's been really cool to have the two worlds. I 632 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: have the super business side. You know, we have a 633 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: whole team now for DPU. I work with my CEO 634 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: every day. I work with our marketing team every single day. 635 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm on like confidence calls and like that's 636 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: not my world. You know, I'm a creative person. But yeah, 637 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: the social team, all that kind of stuff, and I 638 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: work with all that. But I'm so happy that I 639 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: still get to do the creative side of it. Like 640 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm really in my happy place when I'm working on 641 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: So what that tells me, though, is that I found 642 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: the job that was right for me, you know. And 643 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: it goes back to that thing of chasing your dreams. 644 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: And I'll talk to people who are kind of like, oh, 645 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to do. I don't 646 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: know if I want to go to calls. Maybe I'll 647 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: just do hair. And I'm like, if you think I'm 648 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: just gonna do hair, like you're not going to be 649 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: good at it. You know, it's like you really have 650 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: to have because it's a tedious job. I mean, nothing 651 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: makes me happier than doing a full head of highlights. 652 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: And that's like tedious, that's like sacking up litle pieces, 653 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: but I'm in heaven something about it that makes me 654 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: so happy. If it's not your passion, that would be 655 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: the biggest chore in the world, you know, And that's 656 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: what I see. That's the time when you see sloppy 657 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: work is when people are just kind of bored and 658 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: they're trying to run in you know, like I don't 659 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: want to rush through anything. I'm a perfectionist because I 660 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: absolutely love it when I also think what you said 661 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: earlier about wanting a woman to feel beautiful and really 662 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: wanting to be a part of that experience. That's what 663 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: I love doing. What I do too, is when someone 664 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: walks away and you can tell they feel so cold, 665 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: the best feeling, which also brings me to the next 666 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: topic is you know when people are in your chair, 667 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: A lot of times people say their hairstyles is like 668 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: their therapist, right, because you and your having these conversations, 669 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: you're you're wanting them to feel beautiful. Part of that 670 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: can be emotionally. So what let's talk about dating a 671 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: little bit. Do you hear a lot about this in 672 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: your chair? It's my favorite conversation in the world. I'd 673 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: love to talk about it. What you've talked about it. 674 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: That is what I wanted to talk about on the podcast. Um, 675 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: it's my favorite conversation in the world because I feel 676 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: really really fortunate that these women sit in my chair 677 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: and they open up to me. I. Um, it's a 678 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: funny thing. I'm actually not like a super I'm not 679 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: a super social person. Like I don't want to go 680 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: to parties all the time and talk to a million people. 681 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: I like to have one on one conversations with people, 682 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: and so I like to sit in a chair and 683 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: really get deep. I don't want to talk about the weather. 684 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about anything really. I don't 685 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: want to just make conversation just to make conversation. The 686 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: only really bad thing I want to talk about this Housewives. 687 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: I love talking about the house that always it's like 688 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: my favorite, my favorite talk to talking about. But I 689 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: want to get deep. So I really like to talk 690 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: to women. I want to hear about relationships. And because 691 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: of that, I really do feel like I've turned into this, 692 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: like I really understand the way a relationship works, and 693 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: I really hear things that And it's not like I've 694 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: never been in a bad relationship before. I've been in 695 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: a very bad relationship like in my twenties. You know 696 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: that was not right for me that I learned from that, 697 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: But I've learned the most from my clients. I really 698 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: pay attention to clients who are genuinely happy in a relationship, 699 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: and then I really listen when people are having issues 700 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: in their relationship. And I've gotten to this point now 701 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: where I can really hear both sides and see and 702 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: I really um, I'll never be a man hater or 703 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: just like hate on a man. I really if a 704 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: woman is complaining about her husband or her boyfriend, I 705 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: really like to ask them, like, what do you think 706 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: is making them act this way? Because I think that 707 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: like men first of all, just want to be heard. 708 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: Men are really really simple, right. Men want to be heard, 709 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: and they want to be supported. They want to feel supported, 710 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: And I think that the biggest thing that's missing in relationships, 711 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: This is my biggest thing. My biggest thing is vulnerability. 712 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: If you are if you are in a relationship and 713 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: you are vulnerable and authentic to who you are, you 714 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: it opens up so much more of a chance for 715 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: you to be in a healthy relationship. I think that 716 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: all of the issues that come from relationships are when 717 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: people are trying to hide who they really are, when 718 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: they're trying to be something that they're not to make 719 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: the other person happy, or if they're in a relationship 720 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: and they're trying to change that person. You can't change people, right. 721 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: So it's like, you think about my idea of who 722 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to be. I'm gay, shocker, but my idea 723 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: of the kind of guy that I wanted to be. 724 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: And when I very first started dating, and you know, 725 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: my early twenties, I always thought like, oh, I want 726 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: to be with like a successful guy with a lot 727 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: of money, Like maybe he's gonna have this huge personality 728 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: and like whatever. And I did. I dated that in 729 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: my twenties and it turns out like he was a 730 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: bit of a narcissist. He did really really well and 731 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: lots of money. He was on TV, and um, I 732 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: quickly realized that that wasn't my partner. Cut two, I'm 733 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: with my boyfriend now. We've been together for five years 734 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: and he's the exact opposite. But it's exactly what I need. 735 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: And it's kind of that thing like I always tell women, 736 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, sometimes we have this idea of 737 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: what we want in our head, you really don't know 738 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: what you want. Like when my boyfriend, now his nickname 739 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: is Scooter, But like when Scooter and I very first met, 740 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, first of all, he's twelve years 741 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: younger than me, he's gorgeous, he's so cute, and I 742 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: was like, there is no way this is a relationship. 743 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: But I was two years out of a big breakup 744 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: and I was getting ready to date and he came 745 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: into my life and I was telling my sister, who's 746 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: my best friend. I was like, you know, I'm going 747 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: to go on a date with him, but it's just 748 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: for fun and like whatever, you know, And we went 749 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: on a date, and all of a sudden, I was like, whoa, 750 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: this guy is really really great, you know. And all 751 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden, cut to five years later, we've been 752 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: together and I've really learned a lot from this relationship. 753 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: It's like I needed somebody like him, you know. He's like, 754 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: tell me more about that. What do you think exactly 755 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: about that works? What this relationship works, What it honestly 756 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: is is he lets me be exactly who I am. 757 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: I never feel like he tries to change who I am. 758 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: So I have this job where I talked to my 759 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: whole team with people all day long. I talked to 760 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: my clients. It's a very social job, and I go 761 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: home exhausted. In my last relationship, my more toxic relationship, 762 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: I would go home and my ex would say, like, 763 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: what's wrong. Why are you being quiet? Like, and he 764 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: would make it about him and I'd say, no, babe, 765 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: I just had a really long day. I came off 766 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: of doing twenty clients, like I just need like an 767 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: hour to kind of decompress. And he would take it 768 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: personal and it would always turn into a fight. He's like, 769 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I haven't seen you all day. 770 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: You came home and now and um it was making 771 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: me crazy. That's what we thought about the time. Really, 772 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: it was nothing about him. You had nothing him cut 773 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: two now scoot. I come home from work after a 774 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: long day and he'll look at me and he knows. 775 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, babe, you had a long day, didn't 776 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: you know. I'm like yeah, and he's like, take your time, 777 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: like he lets me do my own thing. We'll sit 778 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: in our own kind of rooms, and then all of 779 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: a sudden we'll like revisit each other in the living 780 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: room where like hold hands or watching a TV show 781 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: and it's like he's just really comfortable and he trust 782 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: when he when I say, baby, has nothing to do 783 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: with you, he listens. He doesn't challenge it, you know. 784 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: Um also little things like my boyfriend is not a 785 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: very social person, Like he's not a big personality. He's 786 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: also he would go to a party and he'd want 787 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: to sit in the corner and chat with one person. 788 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: He loves to connect with people. But I could never 789 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: say things like baby, you need to be more outgoing, 790 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: or like why didn't you talk to so and so 791 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: or because that's not who he is. Really accept that, 792 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, like we go to partary parties and we 793 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: do our own thing. We're not we're not clinging on 794 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: to each other. I think it's really important to really 795 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: keep your independence, you know, be really really comfortable with 796 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: your partner. I was watching The View the other day 797 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: and I love the View again because it's like women's conversations. 798 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: I love the I love it, I love women. I 799 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: love women's conversations. And uh so I was watching The 800 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: View the other day and they were talking about something 801 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: that happened on vander Pump, so random and STOSSI who 802 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: I love on that show because she's hilarious, but stops 803 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: her boy friend. We're getting this big fight where she 804 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: wanted him to leave a party that he wanted to 805 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: stay at, and they were talking about like do you 806 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: what do you guys think they're opening up the conversation. 807 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Some of the women were like absolutely, like if you 808 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: want to leave a party, your partner should go with you. 809 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: And the other women were like what if they want 810 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: to stay at the party. And I was literally like, 811 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: if you're with a man and you're at a party 812 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: and he wants to stay at the party, you should 813 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: feel comfortable going home on your own or vice versa. 814 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: And there are nights where my boyfriend wants to go 815 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: out to dinner and I'm not in the mood and 816 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: he lets me stay home, Like letting that person be 817 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: who they are, Does that make sense? It's just such 818 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: a respect for each other and comfortability. I think it 819 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: comes from a lot of confidence. That confidence, and the 820 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: thing that's so freaky is if you are in a 821 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: relationship where you don't trust someone and you're looking into 822 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 1: their computer, you're checking their phone, you can't be with them. 823 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: You just can't because the amount of anxiety and stress 824 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: that that starts to cause. And you, I mean, you've 825 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: been cheated on, devastating to you, and now you'd be 826 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: so aware of those signs again meeting another man. The 827 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: only thing that you can't do is let that completely 828 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: put those walls up again where you do right well. 829 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: And I think what you said is so true. If 830 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: you're if you can't trust and you're feeling that insecurity, immediately, 831 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: I think we instinctually go to, Okay, I'm going to 832 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: make myself better. I'm going to be this perfect person 833 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: so that then they'll act differently and then I can 834 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: trust them. And that's just not how it was. I 835 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: can do that, and a guy cheating believe that it's 836 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: an insecurity on their part. You know. It's like, Um, 837 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm a very sexual person. I'm a scorpio. I love sex, 838 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: I love flirtation, I love all that kind of stuff, 839 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: but I don't need it to feed my ego, you 840 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I don't know if that's 841 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: because my boyfriend takes care of that, or if I've 842 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: gotten to a place in my life or I've always 843 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: been a pretty confident person. But I think that people 844 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: cheat when they get off on the ego, you know, 845 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: I think that it will never go away that we 846 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: want to be flirted with. You know, if you go 847 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: to a party and let's say you're in a really 848 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: happy relationship and some guy flirts, it feels good and 849 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: like I was saying, my boyfriend's gorgeous, and well if 850 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: we we never go to gay bars, but if we 851 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: go there and guys are checking them out or they 852 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: come up to him and they flirt with him, I 853 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: swear I'm the most jealous first in the world that 854 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: like in most areas, you know, I'm real protective and 855 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, but it like it turns 856 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: me on, Like it makes me excited. You're confident in relationship, 857 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: and it's like I see that and it's like, um, 858 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me, you know, and like I don't 859 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: get in the car after like, wow, you were really 860 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: talking to that guy, Like go for it, like flirt. 861 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: It's sweet, you know, as long as you feel confident 862 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: in relationship. But totally get that and he's going home 863 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: with you exactly. What's the one thing you hear most 864 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: women say like consistently about men are dating, Like over 865 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: and over and over. I think the biggest complaint that 866 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: I hear is women saying I wish my husband was 867 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: more blah blah blah, or I wish my husband didn't 868 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: do this, and I really that's when I really just 869 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of stick step in. I just asked them the 870 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: questions like that's who you're dating, though, and you knew 871 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: was he like that when you very first started dating, 872 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: Like yeah, he's always been like that, And I'm like, 873 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: he's always going to be like that, you know, like 874 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: we genuinely are who we are at the core, you know, 875 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: it's like um, Like I was saying, like, my boyfriend 876 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: is the sweetest guy in the world. He doesn't want 877 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: to rule the world, like I want to rule the world. 878 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: I want to have a really big life. I like 879 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: nice things. I like to take care of my friends. 880 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: I want to make a lot of money. And I 881 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: have no shame in saying that. It's um Again, it's 882 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: not an ego thing. It's just I'm driven by like um, 883 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: money and thinking I like business and all that kind 884 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: of stuff. But my boyfriend will ever have that. So 885 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: if all of a sudden I started saying, you know, 886 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: like like scoo, why aren't you you know, working hard 887 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: on this all. Why aren't you like chasing more these 888 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: dreams or why don't you bringing in more money? Like 889 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: that is not important to him and it never will be. 890 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: Like it's that's such a good point. Yeah, thank you, 891 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: true and yeah, but it truly is. I think we 892 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: all go into it and you just need to look 893 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: at who that person is at the beginning, because that 894 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: is who they are, and you pay a lot of 895 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: attention at the beginning of any relationship. You know, my 896 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: parents stayed together my whole childhood and they got divorced 897 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: after but then now they're kind of like we're seeing 898 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: each other again, you know. But I remember when I 899 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: was a little kid, you know, like I love paying 900 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: attention to people. I really pay attention to people. When 901 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: people talk, I really listen, and I like to really 902 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: get to know. I think that's why I like the 903 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: House Lives, because I like people's conversations and I like 904 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: thinking or thinking about what makes a person tick, you know. 905 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: And so I remember when I was a kid, I 906 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: paid a lot of attention to my parents, even I 907 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: was like a six year old kid, and I would 908 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: listen to my parents fights. I love to go like 909 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: put my ear up against the door and like listen, 910 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: and I remember just being like thinking, like, these are 911 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: two people who, yeah, they are attracted to each other 912 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: and they love each other and they have kids now 913 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: and everything, but like they're not meant to be together. 914 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: And I think that it's one And I say this 915 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: stuff to my mom. I'm close with my whole family 916 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: and we all talk about everything, but like, you can 917 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: be attracted to people, and you can have amazing sex 918 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: with people, you can have a lot of fun with people, 919 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: but to be in a relationship, if you want to 920 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: be in a relationship with someone, the everything kind of 921 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: needs to add up for it to last forever, if 922 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: you want forever. I'm also totally cool with people who 923 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: have multiple relationships, you know. Like I said, I'm from 924 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: a Mormon family, and Mormons stay together forever. No one 925 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: ever talks about divorce. But I look at people who 926 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: are in relationships and they're not happy, and I'm like, 927 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 1: this is our one shot, Like this is all we got. 928 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: And I know the thing that makes me feel the 929 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: most comfortable is like knowing that I get to go 930 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: home to someone that I gen uinely love and I'm 931 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: never walking into a toxic environment, Like my home is 932 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: really happy. We really listen to each other, and um, 933 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: that's important, Like you're not going to change somebody. And 934 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: don't you feel like because he accepts you, it actually 935 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: makes you the best version of yourself because you're accepting yourself. 936 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: It's true, it does. And it's like, I'm such a 937 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: strong person. I like to take care of people and 938 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: I never want to be the one that needs help. 939 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: And that's actually something that I've had to learn over 940 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: the years is being vulnerable. And it's okay to be sad. 941 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: It's okay to be depressed. It's okay to feel lost, 942 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: it's okay to feel uninspired, you know, Like I really 943 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: do wake up like inspired and I'm excited. I want 944 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: to get a lot done, but we all have those 945 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: times when we're not. And I really feel like I 946 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: have a partner who he does not judge me, and 947 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: it's like that could almost make me like cry because 948 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: it's like I think about him, like I never feel 949 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: judgment from my partner, and I know that I have 950 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: a partner that like loves me unconditionally, and there's nothing 951 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: that feels better than that, you know, And it's like 952 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: I know he doesn't want to change away. Am I'm 953 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: a moody son of a bit, Like I'm like, you know, 954 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: like the good thing about my moods though, is like 955 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: I will always own it. I think that people are 956 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: allowed to be moody if they just own it. You know, 957 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: you can't walk into a room and being a bad 958 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: mood and treat everyone like ship. You know, like if 959 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm in a bad mood, I'll kind of keep to 960 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: myself and if someone catches onto that badman like yeah, 961 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm just in a bad mood like this happened or whatever, 962 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you can own it. But um, I 963 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: really feel accepted. I feel supported. Does he accept your 964 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: love for Britney Spears? He totally does. I'm a huge 965 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: fan of Britney Spears. I'm staring at a big, huge 966 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: poster of Britney in my office at the DP Hugh 967 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: House in l A And I have a huge picture 968 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: of Britney Spears above my desk. I love Brittany for 969 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: so many reasons, and that could be a whole another 970 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 1: podcast because I could talk about her all the time. 971 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: But when I first met my boyfriend, like I said, 972 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: he's a lot younger than I am. And he didn't 973 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: understand the appeal to Britney Spears because it wasn't his generation, 974 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: you know. So it's like for me, it was like 975 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: junior or high school was Britney Spears came out and 976 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: it was this huge thing and it's like, I love 977 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: I love I love the power behind, I love the snake, 978 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: the ups and downs. Yeah, I mean I would have 979 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: been like Brittany too if I got famous at her 980 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: you think about that, I mean that was she was 981 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: in a time where paparazzi was huge and people were 982 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 1: being chased around all the time. I remember I worked 983 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: at this really busy salon here in Beverly Hills and 984 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: it was at that time of Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, 985 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: Britney Spears, and it was a paparazzi time, and outside 986 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: of the salon you would open the door, if the 987 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: celebrity would open the door of the salon, it was 988 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: a mob of lights just flashing, screaming, and it was 989 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,959 Speaker 1: this eerie feeling. You'd watch this little, tiny, petite girl 990 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: like you'd watch in the Cole Ritchie walk out the 991 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: front door of the salon at night after getting her 992 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: hair done. And for hours she'd walk out from door 993 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: and it was just screaming men like screaming at her, 994 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: also saying nasty things to try and get. Yeah, so 995 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: imagine like no one's taught to deal with that. So 996 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: that I love Brittany for those for those reasons, Um, 997 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Since she's been in this what 998 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: what would she call? What was she calling it? An 999 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: emotional mental health facility? That me too, I think we 1000 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: all need to go to a mental health Oh my god, 1001 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: it sounds amazing. I you know, it's funny. It It 1002 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: actually affected me a lot because it's like I feel 1003 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: this connection to you know, Like I said, Um, I 1004 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: think the most masculine thing about me is I love 1005 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: to take care of women. I'm very very protective. I'm 1006 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: not a fighter. I'm not violent at all, but I've 1007 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: been known to almost get into fights at bars when 1008 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm with girlfriends because I don't like when guy's mistreat women. 1009 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: So I'm very very protective, and I think that my 1010 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: love for Brittany over the years, I just feel protective 1011 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: over So I'm just I go to this place where 1012 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: it's like when you hear about something happening with a 1013 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: certain celebrities, like when Michael Jackson was going through all 1014 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: that crap right before he died. You were kind of 1015 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: hearing about it and then all of a sudden boom. 1016 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: I remember I was in the salon one day and 1017 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, oh my god, Michael 1018 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: Jackson just died. And it's like that where it's such 1019 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: an instant thing. So yes, my mind sadly goes to 1020 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: this weird place. If something happened to Brittany, I would 1021 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: be a mess. You'd have to take a mental health 1022 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: I really would. I would have to check myself in somewhere. 1023 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: I mean, this is so cheesy, but it really is. 1024 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: It's just that that Brittany is my girl. Yeah. I 1025 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: think I love her too. I mean it is. I 1026 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: think it's a generational thing, but we've just grown up 1027 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, I love that. Okay, So what's next 1028 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: on the horizon for you? I know you have a 1029 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: couple of Do you have a couple of new products 1030 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: you want to tell us about. You have a boatload 1031 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: of products that are coming out that are launching in 1032 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: the spring right now, um from DP Hugh lots of 1033 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: amazing things. You can check them out on the website 1034 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: dphu dot com. But then the most amazing thing that 1035 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: you and I have in common is Kristin Cavalry. That's 1036 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: how we met and we both love her so much. 1037 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: But Kristen and I collapsed on this new product that 1038 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: is coming out within the next month. And what it 1039 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: is is a product that you can use in the 1040 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: sun to lighten your own hair naturally. Now, I know 1041 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: that freaks a lot of people out at first, and 1042 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: it should because not everyone should use it. If you 1043 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: don't have dark hair, you shouldn't be putting this product 1044 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: at your roots. It'll turn your hair um like an 1045 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 1: orange color. But if you want light tips on your hair, 1046 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: you can paint this product through like the ends of 1047 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: your hair if your brunette, and it kind of naturally 1048 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: lightens them when you're in the sun. But if you 1049 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: have more natural if you're here a little bit lighter 1050 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: naturally like mine or like a Christian's or my sisters, 1051 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can kind of painted around your hairline 1052 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: to make your hairline a little bit brighter. You can 1053 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: kind of touch up your highlights. But the cool thing 1054 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: about our product that comes in a brush that you 1055 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 1: click the brush and the product comes out of the brush, 1056 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: so you can strategically place it where you want. So 1057 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: this thing, the idea is like if you're at the lake, 1058 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: or you're at the beach, or you're by the pool 1059 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: and you jump out of the water at water and 1060 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 1: your hair is wet, you kind of like place the 1061 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: product where you want it to be lighter, and then 1062 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 1: when you're out in the sun, it just naturally lightens. 1063 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: It's not going to make you platinum. It's not gonna 1064 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: make you overly blond. Again, this is the kind of 1065 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: enhance what maybe the salon has already done. Or if 1066 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: you have natural hair that you're not quite ready to 1067 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: highlight yet, but you just want to naturally enhance it. 1068 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: You place this product on and it lightens it. But 1069 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: since that's coming out like within the next month, but 1070 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: it goes back to this thing. Chris and I've been friends, 1071 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, since Kristen was like seventeen. I've no beach 1072 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: was when I very first met her, and so Christen's 1073 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: like a little sister to me. But we've always talked 1074 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: about you know, those products. I don't need to name 1075 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: any of them, but there are a lot of products 1076 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: and we're kids that you would spray into your hair 1077 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: and the product. The problem is is you spray that 1078 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: in your hair. You don't want your whole head to 1079 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: turn one color. You know, we want like strategic piece, 1080 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: So this is where you can kind of place it 1081 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: strategically where you want it. And then also I've added 1082 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: a toner into the formula, so it's a deep purple 1083 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: pigment and purple cancels out orange and yellows. So a 1084 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: lot of those products back in the day we'd spray 1085 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: on all of our head in our head would turn 1086 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: yellow or a hair return orange. But now you can 1087 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: strategically place the product and it has the toner, so 1088 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: it will take out in yellow if you pull yellow 1089 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: like my hair doesn't really pull yellow like I can 1090 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: put lemon in my hair and will turn like a 1091 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: Beigi color, you know when I'm out in the sun. 1092 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: But the purple protects that. So smart, So people can 1093 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: go to dphu dot com. And then also you said 1094 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: old there were all old beauty stores, Sephora dot com, 1095 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: Nordstroms dot com, Olda dot com, and then um dp 1096 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 1: dot com. So smart. And then also people can see 1097 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,479 Speaker 1: you on very cavaliery. Oh my god. We even talked 1098 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 1: about that. How have you felt about being on season two? 1099 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: Is it weird? It was, It's so it's so funny. 1100 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: You know. It's one of those things where it feels 1101 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: really really natural to me because Kristen is a really 1102 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: good friend of mine, you know, and I would do 1103 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: anything for Kristen. And when we talked about me coming 1104 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: onto the show to do a little different things, you know, 1105 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: it's like, of course there are the partment. Was like, 1106 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,479 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what if I look like a total 1107 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: dork or what if it feels forced? And I think 1108 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: my biggest fear I love reality TV, and I have 1109 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: no shame in saying it. I think reality TV is 1110 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,439 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I hate when we will talk 1111 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: crap about it because I think reality TV. You need 1112 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: to think of it as I feel like we've all 1113 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: learned so much from reality TV if you really think 1114 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 1: about it. I feel like reality TV has made the 1115 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: whole country more comfortable with gay people. I think. And no, 1116 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: it's like I was actually at um a dinner and 1117 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: I with two really big celebrities. I'm not gonna name drop, 1118 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: and also I can't share this conversation, but they were 1119 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: really big celebrity of movies, movies and TV, and they 1120 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: were talking about really reality TV and they were kind 1121 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: of like trash talking reality TV. And I think that's 1122 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: the norm people being. I don't get this reality TV. 1123 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't get white people watch reality people are just 1124 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: trying to be famous. Yeah, and they kind of looked 1125 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: down on it, But I really like look at the 1126 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: positive side of it. Like I feel like I learned again. 1127 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: You learn a lot about relationship, you you really if 1128 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: they are real. Of course, some of them are staged, 1129 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: and by all means you can hate the super super 1130 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: staged ones, but um, I like reality TVs. So anyways, 1131 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 1: when Kristen was talking about it, my biggest fear since 1132 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: I watched reality TV, my biggest fear was being the 1133 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: gay sidekick on a reality show like on the Housewives, 1134 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: and you see like the gay here us are just 1135 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: blowing out the hair and he's just got like the 1136 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: one liners and it's like, oh, you know, like whatever, 1137 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: like the funny, sassy gay guy, you know, and it's 1138 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: like I just I was like I and no hate 1139 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: on anyone. It's just like I didn't want to do that, 1140 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: you know. So, um it was important to for it 1141 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: to be known that like I'm a friend of Christian's, 1142 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: you know. So we did the first episode here instide 1143 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 1: of the house like Colory Hair, and our conversation was authentic, 1144 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, And my fear was that it would wouldn't 1145 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: feel authentic. And when I watched that first episode, I 1146 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: was like, wow, that was cute. It was our conversation, 1147 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: you know. And then the next episode, I went down 1148 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: to Nashville, and again before I watched it, I was 1149 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: super freaked out, like, am I gonna look like an idiot? 1150 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: Like whatever? And I watched and I was kind of like, 1151 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: you know, that's sincere. It's it was our real conversations. 1152 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: And my friends who I'm really really close with text 1153 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: me and even Kim Basing or Test text me, it's like, 1154 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: I watched you on Cavalary and she's like, you were 1155 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: literally yourself. She was like it was the funniest thing. 1156 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: She was like that that's you, you know. And it 1157 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: wasn't like I had to try to, but I'm sure 1158 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: you experienced this, but like you forget the cameras are there. 1159 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: I forget I'm miked up, like I really do. And 1160 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: that would be my problem if I ever did a 1161 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: lot of reality TV, I would say too much. Yeah, 1162 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: because you do, I think, and especially the more comfortable 1163 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: you are in the scene, which when we're all together 1164 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: it is just friends hanging out. But I feel exactly 1165 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: the same. As long as I look like myself, I 1166 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: kind of don't care what I'm saying, and I think 1167 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: it also, I do agree a lot of people hate 1168 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: on reality TV, but it goes back to what you 1169 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: were saying earlier about vulnerability and relationships. If as long 1170 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: as I'm showing my real side, like I've found for me, 1171 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: it's a great way to connect with people. So true. Yeah, 1172 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 1: I've connected with so many people who I never would have, 1173 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: even if it's just via social media, who they're like, 1174 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 1: oh my god, I have the same story as you. 1175 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 1: You know. It's been such a cool tool for me 1176 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: of connecting. I love that because I think that that 1177 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: is I think that that's all that humans want nowadays. 1178 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: I think that's why social media is so big now 1179 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: is because people feel connected. But then it's almost making 1180 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: us more disconnected because now people are making their lives 1181 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: look perfect on instag only putting the best versions. So 1182 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: if reality TV is similar to Instagram, but you're seeing 1183 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 1: much more of it, and you're seeing the reality and 1184 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: you're seeing the ups and downs. I like that. I 1185 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: think that people are like, Wow, I fight with my 1186 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: husband like that, or I've had that conversation with my 1187 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,359 Speaker 1: best friend before, and I think that that actually does 1188 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: make us feel connected, you know, So I really really 1189 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: I like it. I also think it's like if you 1190 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: were like it's funny because my sister and my mom 1191 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,280 Speaker 1: are the ones who I share a lot on Instagram, 1192 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: and it's the stories. Like I'm not I'm not afraid 1193 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: of showing a lot, but like it really is that thing, 1194 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: like I'll share like a vulnerable side of myself, like 1195 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: I feel this way, I'm depressed or whatever. And you 1196 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: get all these people writing you messages like thank you, 1197 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: you made me feel better. Like I see your life 1198 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: and you work with these big celebrities and you live 1199 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills and to hear you say that makes 1200 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: me feel good. And it sounds so freaking cheesy and 1201 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: like kumbaya and like You're I'm trying to be inspirational 1202 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: right now, but I'm really not. I just like I 1203 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: I wish that I had that when I was in 1204 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 1: high school, you know, when I was struggling with being 1205 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: a gay man and coming out in a family where 1206 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know any gay people. The only gay people 1207 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: I saw were on the Real World on MTV. So 1208 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: for me, it's like I remember I was obsessed with 1209 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: the Real World, and looking back on it, I was 1210 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: obsessed with it because it's like it made me feel normal, 1211 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: it made me feel like, you know, and um so, 1212 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: I think the more and more we get to that, 1213 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: if and if Reality TV gets more real, I just 1214 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: think it's another way to connect and I love that. 1215 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone should feel alone. I remember feeling 1216 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: so lone when I was in high school, in junior 1217 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: high and had I had YouTube or Instagram where I 1218 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: could look on Instagram and see cute, happy gay relationships. 1219 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: You know, you think about someone like Nate Burkas and 1220 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Brent, like they have a kid, and if you 1221 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 1: were a kid, a gay kid in the middle of 1222 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: the country, you could look at their Instagram be like 1223 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: I want to aspire to that. Like yeah, and um so, 1224 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: I think there's something very beautiful about that. I agree. 1225 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of Instagram, where can people find you on Instagram? 1226 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,720 Speaker 1: Because you are so fun to follow my personal Instagram 1227 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: where I'm just kind of like a dick and myself 1228 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: and I just like I want to people laugh and 1229 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: I want to connect with people, and I really do, 1230 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: like I do you answer to everyone on Instagram as 1231 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: much as you can. I really love it. I mean 1232 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: I feel like if I wasn't going to do that, 1233 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have Instagram because it's like I like to 1234 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: talk to people, and you know, I can't do it 1235 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: all day long, but it's like I kind of give 1236 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: myself a time at the end of the day at night, 1237 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: while I'm laying in bed, I answer a bunch of 1238 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 1: people and I write to him or whatever. Um, So 1239 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: Justin Anderson it's at Justin Anderson Instagram is where I 1240 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: just do all my fun life and stuff and there 1241 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 1: is some of my work there, but then strictly work 1242 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: is Justin Anderson color and that's all my hair photos. Yeah, 1243 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: it's just um. And that one now has beat my 1244 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: other one in numbers. It's more followers on that one, 1245 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: so it's but it's just um strictly hair. And the 1246 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: Dhu has an Instagram to write Dphu as an Instagram 1247 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 1: that's growing really really fast. I'm super proud of it. 1248 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: Um it's DPHU on Instagram d p h u E 1249 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 1: and UM that's where like all of our products are 1250 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: explained and any new launches and promotions and we do 1251 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: crap flow to giveaways. So this where we're talking right 1252 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: now is at the DP Hugh House and it's this 1253 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,760 Speaker 1: house up in Beverly Hills behind the Beverly Hills Hotel. 1254 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful house. I feel so fortunate to work here. 1255 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: But we just bring in influencers and we work with 1256 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: them with our products and we try out all of 1257 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: our products on their hair. It's a space where I 1258 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: try all new products that I'm trying before they hit 1259 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: the shelves. And um. But what we do on Instagram 1260 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 1: is we do a lot of giveaways where we like 1261 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 1: we'll have We're like, we do a giveaway and we 1262 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: fly people here constantly. So I fly people in from 1263 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: all over the country and I work with them, I 1264 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: do their hair if they win the giveaway. And UM, again, 1265 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: it's just it's all about collaboration and connecting. And UM. 1266 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: So deep is a good follow for all that so 1267 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: followed us in on all his Instagrams, and also make 1268 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: sure you tune into Very Cavaliery. We're going to Mexico 1269 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: that can. That's going to be and I'm actually nervous 1270 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: about because it's like, remember it was carrying Kristen and 1271 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 1: her like full ask was hanging out. Did you see that? 1272 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: The last Very Cavalry just posted a sneak peek of 1273 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: that and she's going to my asses out, my asses out. 1274 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it got so crazy, but it's so fun though. 1275 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: I can't wait for you guys to see. Thank you 1276 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 1: for doing this so much more together. You're my favorite. 1277 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: Same all right, thank you guys for listening by. This 1278 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 1: is Kelly Henderson and you've been listening to the Velvet's 1279 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: Edge podcast. I truly believe that every one of us 1280 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: has a little velvet and a little edge, so it's 1281 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: so important to remember that to be strong, you must 1282 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 1: be soft too. Thank you so much for sharing in 1283 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 1: those stories with me. You can follow Velvet's Edge on Instagram, Facebook, 1284 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,399 Speaker 1: and Twitter, as well as velvet's Edge dot com. 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