1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: generation warfare. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: This is Human Events with your host Jack Pisovic, christ. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: Is King, and good morning everyone. I'm Matt Lower in 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: New York and we do have a special report from 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: NBC News. There has been a massive explosion at a 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: federal building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. It happened just a 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 3: short time ago. A large portion of that building has collapsed. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 4: The APA Federal Building, that's the correct name of it. 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: We're now told it is a complex in downtown Oklahoma 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: City housing more than five hundred workers. How many civilians 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 4: who were there doing business at the time, we don't 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 4: know for sure. 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: There has been considerable loss of life, including the deaths 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: of more than one dozen young children at a daycare 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: center falling. 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: At his uguar horrible noise, horrible noise. 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 5: On April nineteenth, nineteen ninety five, Timothy McVeigh, an American 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 5: Gulf War veteran, shocked America when he committed what was 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 5: at that time the most devastating terrorist attack on American soil. 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 5: Debris part of the building has been blown away. 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 4: We're getting reports of numerouspatalities. Hard to believe. We are 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: looking at our own backyard. 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 5: Leaving one hundred and sixty eight people dead and hundreds 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 5: more injured. The first lady we found, she grabbed by 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 5: the collar and said, young man does a daycare center 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 5: on the second floor. 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: You've got to get up there and get those babies. 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 5: The blast destroyed nearly half of the building, collapsing its 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 5: entire north wall. It also left a sixteen block radius 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 5: of destructure, twenty five buildings completely destroyed. Eight hundred and 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 5: fifty people were injured, many in the surrounding area. 34 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: Things flash before you, your children, your loved ones, whether 35 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: you're going to. 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Get to see them again. 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: More than two hundred FBI agents are now involved in 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: a massive manhunt for the bomber. 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 5: What is so evil in someone's heart that would make 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 5: them do this? 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard for a very special addition 42 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: today of human events daily on Real America's Voice. This 43 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: is Blowback, the untold story of the FBI in the 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City bombing. And I want to take you back 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: to the nineteen nineties, and for some of you, you 46 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: may never have heard the spury at all, but believe 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: it or not, in the nineteen nineties, the FBI, the 48 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: federal agencies, the intelligence community, the national security apparatus, the 49 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: government was seen as sacrisang Putting an FBI agent on 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: the stand was all you needed for a conviction at 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: trial because everyone believed the word of the FBI as 52 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: gospel truth. And yet over the years that's changed. And 53 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: believe me, I know I was there as a member 54 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: of the intelligence community as well. I've worked with the FBI. 55 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: I've worked with every three letter agency you can think of. 56 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: But we've learned something, and I think we've come to 57 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: a different place as a country and as a society 58 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: regarding the power of these agencies and the things that 59 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: happen behind closed doors. For years, the official story of 60 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City bombing has been etched into stone. Timothy McVeagh, 61 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: a lone wolf fueled by rage and racism, took it 62 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: upon himself to blow up a federal building. End of story. 63 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Case closed. But what if I told you that's not 64 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: the full picture. A new book is Making Waves Blowback 65 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: by Margaret Roberts, and it's not fiction. It lays out, 66 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: piece by piece a staggering case. The Oklahoma City bombing 67 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: may not have been a simple active domestic terrorism, but 68 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: the tragic result of an FBI entrapment operation un horribly wrong. 69 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: We've learned a lot in the last ten years, haven't we. 70 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: From the Whitmer kidnapping plot where half the crew turned 71 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: out to be FBI informants, revelations about federal involvement on 72 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: January sixth, through internal whistleblowers exposing corruption, censorship, political targeting, 73 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: the American people are waking up the idea that the 74 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: FBI might have had advance knowledge that informants were involved 75 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: with McVeigh or Nichols, and that key evidence was buried 76 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: ten years ago. That was unthinkable. Today, it's not just plausible, 77 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: it's worth investigating. And this book doesn't ask you to 78 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: take its word for it. It shows you declassified memos, 79 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: redacted interview notes, internal communications, the media it ignored, and 80 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: it takes you right into actual death Row interviews. And 81 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: once you see it, you can't unsee it. America is 82 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: ready now, ready to ask the hard questions, ready to 83 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: revisit one of the darkest days in our history with 84 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: clear eyes, not to excuse it, but to understand what 85 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: really happened and to find out if we have been 86 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: lied to for so long. The victims deserve clarity, and 87 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: in fact, many of the families of the victims of 88 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: this horrific act are involved in pushing for these answers 89 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: as well. I've been talking about this on social media, 90 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: and I've been getting pushed back already from the federal 91 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: agents and former federal agents who were involved in this. 92 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to stop, and neither should you, 93 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: and neither did the author of this book, Margaret Roberts, 94 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: because it's time for all of America to ask these 95 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: questions and to find out the truth, because the victims 96 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: deserve that, the families deserve that, and the country deserves that. 97 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: Because if we don't face the truth, no matter how ugly, 98 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen again, maybe it already has. We'll be 99 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: right back. Jack Pasobic, Real America's Voice. The Untold Story 100 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: of the FBI in the Oklahoma City bomby