WEBVTT - Draft Show: Would You Rather?

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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<v Speaker 1>for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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<v Speaker 2>Today is Thursday, February fifteenth, twenty twenty four, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are now officially seventy days away from the NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 2>in Detroit, Michigan. Welcome into the Draft Show presented by

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<v Speaker 2>Miller Lata Taste you Can depend on with Brian brought

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<v Speaker 2>us Aisha Morrison, Nick Karras, Zakwilchuck back with us today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Kyle Yeomans. What's going on, Zach?

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<v Speaker 4>How's it going good man? I've been itching to get

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<v Speaker 4>back here. I told Bobby, hey Man, you can sit

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<v Speaker 4>out of this one. I had something I couldn't make Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 4>Bobby and I are alternating. I said, Bobby, I'm jumping

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<v Speaker 4>in on Thursday. Okay, you can go ahead and take

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<v Speaker 4>a back seat.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you guys fought for it, fistfight all the

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<v Speaker 2>way through and you want so congratulations did We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>to check up on Bobby later.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure he's doing okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Brian, I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't feeling well yesterday. I think Vegas got to

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<v Speaker 6>me a little bit. I don't think it was the

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<v Speaker 6>alcohol or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 5>We were doing well.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think there was a lot going on in

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<v Speaker 6>that radio row. So I couldn't hear, couldn't talk, which

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<v Speaker 6>is very bad for me to do. Uh So, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>feel a lot better today. Happy to be on the

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<v Speaker 6>Draft show and are ready to roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we've got some fun scenarios to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna scrap all that and we're only going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about how college football video games are back

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<v Speaker 2>for the first.

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<v Speaker 3>Time in a week. We're gonna do it. Yeah, We're

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<v Speaker 3>just gonna not talk about anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's that's all in the game. Yeah, that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun. No, on all serious notes. Brian

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<v Speaker 2>put together a list of would you rather We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go through that, and there's a lot to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go straight into it. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to waste any time here. I want to say would

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<v Speaker 2>you rather on a couple of these prospects.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, keep in mind this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Not Cowboys related specifically, right, Brian, This is prospect only.

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<v Speaker 6>On your on your board. As you look at these,

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<v Speaker 6>as you look at these players. And what I did

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<v Speaker 6>was Dane Brugler's Top one hundred came out yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 6>what I want to do is I wanted to kind

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<v Speaker 6>of you know, he had a couple of guys that

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<v Speaker 6>were pretty close position wise, and so I thought that

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<v Speaker 6>would be a good opportunity for us to say, would

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<v Speaker 6>you rather have this guy or this guy on your board.

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<v Speaker 6>Dane does a hell of a job with his board,

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<v Speaker 6>but all scouts are different the way they see these players.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's why I created this list.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really good list. Some of them are really

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<v Speaker 2>tough to really decipher between. By the way, you can

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<v Speaker 2>check out Dane's Top one hundred on the Athletic right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Just go on there.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got the subscription search top one hundred, you

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<v Speaker 2>can even follow along as.

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<v Speaker 3>We do this.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's start things off at the wide receiver position.

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<v Speaker 2>He has two wide receivers in the top three overall prospects.

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<v Speaker 2>At number two, he has Marvin Harrison, junior wide receiver

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<v Speaker 2>out of Ohio State, six foot four, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>five pounds junior. Of course, the agree with Marvin Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>that certainly there and he had a phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 3>Season with the Buckeyes.

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<v Speaker 2>But then right behind him out of Brian brought us

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<v Speaker 2>his fight in LSU Tigers the league. Neighbors is there,

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<v Speaker 2>six foot two hundred pound wide receiver and a junior

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<v Speaker 2>as well. I shall start with you, out of these

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<v Speaker 2>two prospects, which ones do you feel like you would

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<v Speaker 2>go with?

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<v Speaker 3>Which one do you feel like you would go with?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, when comparing the two players, I feel like Marvin

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<v Speaker 7>Harrison junior is is more is a little bit more

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<v Speaker 7>of a route technician, just just I mean, it's so slight,

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<v Speaker 7>it's very It's just a very small amount. But I

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<v Speaker 7>also too, in comparison the yack ability between the two,

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<v Speaker 7>I think if you're looking for I think MALIEE. Neighbors

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<v Speaker 7>has more of a yack. The yack ability is there

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit more with him. I just think that

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<v Speaker 7>his they have similarity with the tracking and the strong hands,

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<v Speaker 7>the concentration, the body controls.

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<v Speaker 8>Similarities there.

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<v Speaker 7>But I do think that the difference to me between

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<v Speaker 7>the two was I look at Marvin Harrison, I see

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<v Speaker 7>how he runs his routes and and everything, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think that he's just a little bit more smooth and

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<v Speaker 7>elak Neighbors just has.

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<v Speaker 8>A little bit more edge to him to.

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<v Speaker 7>Me and how he plays from a physical standpoint, and

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<v Speaker 7>so Gez, I mean, who would I rather? And it's

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<v Speaker 7>not for the Cowboys just in.

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<v Speaker 3>General, just put stack.

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<v Speaker 5>Him on your board.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not about to piss nobody up.

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<v Speaker 7>I I I just think, I just think it depends

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<v Speaker 7>on what you what you what you.

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<v Speaker 8>Like in a player. So for me, Mylik Neighbors stood

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<v Speaker 8>out score.

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<v Speaker 7>He just when I look at a player, when I

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<v Speaker 7>look at a wide receiver, I just I like his.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's not to say that Marvin Harrison Junior doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>have an edge to him, because he does.

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<v Speaker 8>But there's just this little bit of like attitude different.

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<v Speaker 7>It's very slight that I like in Mylik Neighbors just

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<v Speaker 7>a tabit more.

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<v Speaker 8>That's just me and that is what it is.

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<v Speaker 9>You spoke to that physicality with with Neighbors, And I

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<v Speaker 9>think that's probably the biggest concern I could find with

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<v Speaker 9>Marvin Harrison Junior whenever I was looking at tape on

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<v Speaker 9>him and trying to find anything that I didn't like,

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<v Speaker 9>is the fact that he's typically brought down whenever he

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<v Speaker 9>gets breathed on on first contact You're not gonna see

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<v Speaker 9>him slip many tackles, but you got to get to

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<v Speaker 9>him first. I think that's the biggest thing with He

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<v Speaker 9>creates separations so easily at the top of his routes.

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<v Speaker 9>His releases are some of the best that I've seen

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<v Speaker 9>at the college level coming out. It's tough to find

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<v Speaker 9>many bad things about him. Whenever I look at my

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<v Speaker 9>league neighbors, I probably find a little bit more concern

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<v Speaker 9>as far as being able to run away from guys.

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<v Speaker 9>Compared to Marvin Harrison. He can't. Compared to Marvin Harrison,

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<v Speaker 9>I think there's a little bit more of that big

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<v Speaker 9>playability from him. I think if you're looking for a receiver,

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<v Speaker 9>which if you're drafting in the top of the first

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<v Speaker 9>round for a receiver, you're looking for one that can

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<v Speaker 9>change your offense and be able to add that highlight

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<v Speaker 9>element to what you want to bring to an NFL offense.

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<v Speaker 9>I think you get Marvin Harrison.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, well, my meleak neighbors. I think I don't know

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<v Speaker 8>if I think the Melik Neighbors.

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<v Speaker 7>When he turns a field and he's the way he's

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<v Speaker 7>looking a field to make plays, He's he's a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit more angry of are to me. And so even

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<v Speaker 7>so where you would say, Okay, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>if I don't know if I think his balance is

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<v Speaker 7>just a bit better, you know, and really, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't I agree with that, like, I don't think wrong,

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think contact like that's that's one of the

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<v Speaker 9>things just in terms of after catch after catch, because.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about catch.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, what sets him apart is I think Marvin

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<v Speaker 4>Harrison Junior along the sideline when it comes to body

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<v Speaker 4>can being able to you know, high point the football

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<v Speaker 4>make some really difficult grounds. The Neighbors will body catch

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm with you, guys in terms of after

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<v Speaker 4>the catch. Now give me rama dunes over both of

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<v Speaker 4>these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was waiting for somebody to bring that up,

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I've got a D three.

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<v Speaker 5>But I and I just want to do better than Neighbors.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really I think. I think they're closer to me

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<v Speaker 4>than Harrison and Neighbors are. Wow, I got Harrison a

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<v Speaker 4>number one. Now do you still think.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of these guys, Harrison Junior and Neighbors are top

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<v Speaker 2>five prospects in the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think all three of those guys are probably

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<v Speaker 4>top ten prospects for me.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you agree, Brian, Yeah, there's no question about that.

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<v Speaker 6>The thing about it is the uh, it's because I

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<v Speaker 6>sit on this panel here as an evaluator, and I

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<v Speaker 6>know I'm an LSU guy.

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<v Speaker 5>This is one of the best receivers ever to play

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<v Speaker 5>at LSU.

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<v Speaker 6>And they've had thanks ed thanks, Yeah, and they've had

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<v Speaker 6>some uh, they've had some great ones. When you start

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<v Speaker 6>to talk about Chase and Jefferson and all that, this

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<v Speaker 6>kid right here is yeah, it is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, like I say, they've had some great ones,

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<v Speaker 6>and this kid is right there with these guys. And

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<v Speaker 6>when the way you watch him play, he loves to

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<v Speaker 6>play the game. But Marvin Harrison, you could watch him

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<v Speaker 6>and say the same thing. Marvin Harrison loves to play

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<v Speaker 6>the game. You could see that both of those game

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<v Speaker 6>breaker kind of guys. I do think the difference between

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<v Speaker 6>the two is run after catch. I think there's some

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<v Speaker 6>explosiveness to Neighbors game. I think there's some finish to

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<v Speaker 6>his game. I've seen him catch the ball, turn it

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<v Speaker 6>up field, run through people, you know, and just bounce

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<v Speaker 6>off guys get extra yards and stuff like that. So

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<v Speaker 6>he's the master of the stutter goes. He can, he

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<v Speaker 6>can set you up. He can you know, he runs

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<v Speaker 6>across the middle.

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<v Speaker 5>He could go deep. He's he's got so much to

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<v Speaker 5>his game.

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<v Speaker 6>I people gonna say, oh, Rosher lsu Homer, Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm an lsu Homer Neighbors.

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<v Speaker 5>I think is a better player than Marvin Harrison could.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the physicality questions for Marvin Harrison Junior stem

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<v Speaker 2>from he wasn't caught by anybody. I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 2>so fast, he was so much a step ahead from

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<v Speaker 2>defenders in the Big Ten and even some of the

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<v Speaker 2>competition that Ohio State played outside of that, he never

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<v Speaker 2>had to be physical win catching footballs on the film.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, where it jumped out to me was when he

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<v Speaker 9>was getting the ball in the shorts of intermediate range

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<v Speaker 9>and having to kind of be able to find a

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<v Speaker 9>hole and break through that. That was that was the

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<v Speaker 9>only again, the only concern I can find with Marvin Harrison.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I love cat radius, really impressed and.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's unbelievable the way that he can contort.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's Michael Gallup esque.

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<v Speaker 4>When Gallup was in his prime, his ability to make

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<v Speaker 4>tough catches with his wings span, the catch readiest. To

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<v Speaker 4>your point, I think he's got the long speed. Neighbors

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<v Speaker 4>runs more angry. I mean, you're and I think the

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<v Speaker 4>body type is it's probably the difference, right, because Marvin

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<v Speaker 4>Harrison Junior is a little bit long, slight build. Neighbors

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<v Speaker 4>is taller. Neighbors is filled out. Yeah, you know so Neighbors.

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<v Speaker 4>I think physically, you look at him, he's got the

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<v Speaker 4>Probably he's a.

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<v Speaker 5>Stronger player than Marvin Harrison Junior is.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it's just the quickness, the ability to

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<v Speaker 4>create separation, the route running. I just think all those

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<v Speaker 4>things are a tick better with Marvin Harrison Junior.

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<v Speaker 10>But the act.

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<v Speaker 5>I hear the argument, and I agree with you when it

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<v Speaker 5>comes to Neighbors.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, his foot quickness helps him when he does

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<v Speaker 7>get the ball. When you talk Marvin Harrison Junior, when

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<v Speaker 7>he does catch the ball, it's not like some it's

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<v Speaker 7>not he's not super shifty, but it's like it's shifty

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<v Speaker 7>enough to where he can make someone miss. But I

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to sit up for an act like the guy.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if you look and him, he's blocking down

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<v Speaker 7>field too, guys like he is willing to sacrifice his

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<v Speaker 7>body in that way. I was just and I think

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<v Speaker 7>you bring up a really good point about the fact that,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, his releases are just so crazy that sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>people are just not even around him.

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<v Speaker 5>He makes a ton of play.

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<v Speaker 7>But I will say too, but I mean at the

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<v Speaker 7>NFL level, though, there's going to be some people that

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<v Speaker 7>can rock with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Again about ball security, I mean, you watch Neighbors, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that that might be one thing you could give

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<v Speaker 4>to him. Marvin Harrison Junior, when he runs the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>he'll leave some openings for you to get it punched

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<v Speaker 4>out a little bit from DBS so neighbors, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you look at the next level, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think either room have a fumbling issue by any means,

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<v Speaker 4>don't get me wrong, but that was something that I

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<v Speaker 4>did put in my notes. He will give you an

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<v Speaker 4>opening for the ball to get punched out by alert defenders.

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<v Speaker 5>With Marvin Harrison.

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<v Speaker 6>Junie, I think Nick makes a great point though though

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<v Speaker 6>the first tackler you see that, you know, you do

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<v Speaker 6>see first tackler sometimes getting Harrison down there, and I

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<v Speaker 6>just think that to me, you know, give me the

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<v Speaker 6>guy that's give me the guy that defenders are trying

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<v Speaker 6>to like, are having problems with that.

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<v Speaker 5>We can't get the sky on the ground.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you think it's a longevity thing? And I don't

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<v Speaker 8>want to listen.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to sound like I'm thinking too hard

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<v Speaker 7>into it, But do you think it is a because

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<v Speaker 7>I do think there's a way to fall, there's a

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<v Speaker 7>way to get tackled if you watch him, because you

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<v Speaker 7>see that even in the NBA and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 7>where the guys take contact, they know how to take

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<v Speaker 7>the contact and not injure themselves. When I look at him,

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<v Speaker 7>there's a lot of time that his falls are calculated, like.

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<v Speaker 3>He's it's taught.

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<v Speaker 9>It's taught now, it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Taught and so and it's actually asks Brandon Cooks about

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<v Speaker 7>this this season because if you notice that about him,

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<v Speaker 7>he shields himself. He'll do different things because he understands

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<v Speaker 7>that his frame is like you were talking about Marvin

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<v Speaker 7>Harrison's frame, his frame isn't the super strongest, so he

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<v Speaker 7>does some things to protect himself. When I look at

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<v Speaker 7>Marvin Harrison sometimes I do think not avoiding contact. I

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<v Speaker 7>just think he understands how to take contact and how

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<v Speaker 7>and so it doesn't look the same way as it

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<v Speaker 7>does when Leek neighbors where He's just like, I don't

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<v Speaker 7>I don't really care if you decided to contact me.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we could spend an entire draft show

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<v Speaker 3>on just the Wiers.

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<v Speaker 5>We really could.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many fun ones. But let's go from

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<v Speaker 2>loaded the guy's pass catching the ball to the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that are throwing the ball. And there's two of them

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<v Speaker 2>on this list that Brian put up there. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course Lshoes owned Jade and Daniels Heisman Trophy winner the Sanella.

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<v Speaker 5>Shoe Themes show today, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you know that, Tigers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he was number eight on Dane's top one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred at Jaden Daniels of course won the Heisman, had

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<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 3>Season, one of the college football's best seasons ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you got Drake May North Carolina, who's number four

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<v Speaker 2>on Dane's list. So you got number four in May,

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<v Speaker 2>number eight and Jade and Daniels. Nick, I'll let you

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<v Speaker 2>start on this one.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah. I've I've actually gone back and forth between this

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<v Speaker 9>the last couple of weeks, and I've I've been asking

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<v Speaker 9>myself whether Drake May is closer to Caleb Williams, or

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<v Speaker 9>if Jade and Daniels is closer to Drake May. And

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<v Speaker 9>I've been trying to have that conversation and trying to

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<v Speaker 9>figure out kind of how that top three shape out

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<v Speaker 9>in my mind because I'm trying to go trying to

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<v Speaker 9>look at it from a holistic approach and not just

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<v Speaker 9>put Williams at one. I think Williams is the one.

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<v Speaker 9>I think he's one two. Just the fact that I'm

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<v Speaker 9>having that conversation with myself, I'm putting Drake May too.

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<v Speaker 9>I love what Drake May does from a pocket standpoint,

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<v Speaker 9>his feel in the pocket, being able to get out

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<v Speaker 9>at the right times, he feels things behind him. I

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<v Speaker 9>love that part of his game. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 9>to translate to the NFL a little bit better than

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<v Speaker 9>what Daniels does. We've talked a little bit about Daniels

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<v Speaker 9>and how kind of lean he is at this point

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<v Speaker 9>in his career. I would love to see him add

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<v Speaker 9>fifteen twenty pounds before he takes on a starting role

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<v Speaker 9>in the NFL. I think with going in the first round,

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<v Speaker 9>both of these guys will with five years of development.

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<v Speaker 9>If we're looking five years into the future. I think

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<v Speaker 9>Drake May will be a more developed prospect by that point,

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<v Speaker 9>but I still think Jayde Daniels will be an NFL

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<v Speaker 9>starter in five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Drake May six foot four, two thirty and then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Jaden Daniels who's six foot three two oh five,

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<v Speaker 2>And of course that's gonna change whenever the combine comes around.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get more accurate numbers and we'll kind of roll

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<v Speaker 2>from there. But you could add some of that weight

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Aisha huh No.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, this is uh, this is this is a

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<v Speaker 4>challenge for me. You've got the prototypical size for the

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<v Speaker 4>position in Drake May. I do think he's pro ready.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the footwork. He'll stand in the pocket, he'll

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<v Speaker 4>take a hit, deliver a throw when he's on, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the thing. When he's on, the dude throws a

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<v Speaker 4>catchable ball. He's super accurate.

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<v Speaker 5>He shows an.

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<v Speaker 4>Understanding of coverage. I think he plays the position with

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of awareness. He'll throw the football away, but

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<v Speaker 4>there are times where he's like, man, I'm a gun slinger.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna trust my arm here, and he'll make some

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<v Speaker 4>throws over the middle. Of the field that you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>what the hell are you doing right here? Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 4>want him to be a little bit more decisive. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that Drake may fits more of your offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 4>and schemes in the NFL. I think Jaden Daniels is

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<v Speaker 4>the better game breaking NFL changer.

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<v Speaker 5>Type of player. This dude is special. He is rare.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a talent to where he can extend plays.

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<v Speaker 4>He's an unbelievable runner Lamar Jackson esque, but he can

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<v Speaker 4>also stand in the pocket. In which you love about

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<v Speaker 4>him is when things are starting to break down around him.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not always looking to bail out and run. He

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<v Speaker 4>is keeping his eyes downfield, and he's only taking off

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<v Speaker 4>once the play is officially broken down. He can step up.

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<v Speaker 4>He can slide navigate in the pocket. Between the two,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm gonna go with Jayden Daniels. I think

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<v Speaker 4>when you're taking guys that are up here at this level,

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<v Speaker 4>I want the game breaker prospect.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Drake mays a safer pick.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if I'm an offensive staff, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>a plan for Jayden Daniels. He needs to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>he's not taken as big of hits in the open field.

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<v Speaker 4>This dude needs to get out of bounds sometimes or

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<v Speaker 4>learn how to slide because he puts himself in arm's way,

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<v Speaker 4>but he can flick it. He's got tremendous arm strength.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm gonna slightly go with Jayden Daniels here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you think, Brian, I'm going to go with

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<v Speaker 6>my guy once again from LSU and.

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen some games.

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<v Speaker 6>I've seen some games where Drake may as you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you could see the arm talent. It appears good and

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<v Speaker 6>then others with the ball will die on him. I

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<v Speaker 6>think that he could be a little hit and miss

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<v Speaker 6>with zaccuracy. He reminds me of Eli Manning, but with

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit better athletic ability. And I mean the

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<v Speaker 6>way he stands in the pocket, the way he looks

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<v Speaker 6>tall there. I know Eli Manning is a potential Hall

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<v Speaker 6>of Famer type of guy. But the way that Eli

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<v Speaker 6>Manning throws the ball, and sometimes you don't always see

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<v Speaker 6>the arm strength there, but.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got the touch.

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<v Speaker 6>He could throw the ball underneath, he could throw the

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<v Speaker 6>screens and the quick game stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy's had three.

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<v Speaker 6>Games though this year where he threw two interceptions, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>North Carolina State, Minnesota, app State. His only victory top

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<v Speaker 6>twenty five victory was against Miami in a game where

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<v Speaker 6>he threw four touchdowns. So I don't know about him

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<v Speaker 6>as far as the when you start to talk about

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<v Speaker 6>big lights, big stage kind of guy, and I think

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<v Speaker 6>that when you look at Daniels, the only reason LESU

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<v Speaker 6>won ten games this year was because of Daniels. They

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<v Speaker 6>were historically bad on defense. He did win the Heisman Trophy.

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<v Speaker 6>He deserved the Heisman Trophy. He's got some incredible toughness

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<v Speaker 6>the way he plays.

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<v Speaker 5>He took vicious hits.

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<v Speaker 6>Throughout the year. He bounces back, He battles through the game.

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<v Speaker 6>He doesn't give up on plays. He can embarrass tacklers

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<v Speaker 6>in the open field. There's something about this kid that

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<v Speaker 6>he has ability to move and to feel pocket awareness,

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<v Speaker 6>get out, run, you think you have an angle, you

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<v Speaker 6>don't have an angle. And he throws the ball well enough.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, he's got some super strong hands. You'll see

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<v Speaker 6>him flag the ball. He'll like put the ball outside

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<v Speaker 6>while he's running and stuff like that. But he doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>turn it over. But his lack of bulk might turn

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<v Speaker 6>some scouts off.

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<v Speaker 5>That might be the problem right there. Skinny is Skinny is.

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<v Speaker 6>He is very at two oh five, he does looks

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<v Speaker 6>very now he's six three. It's not like what we

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<v Speaker 6>saw last year with the kid at Carolina. Now, you

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<v Speaker 6>know with with Bryce Young, he is bigger than Bryce Young.

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<v Speaker 6>But you start to talk about a narrow framed guy,

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<v Speaker 6>and again that might turn some guys off.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the gamer effect is definitely something you have

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<v Speaker 9>to take into account here whenever you compare these two.

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<v Speaker 9>And I think Jayden Daniels does have a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>more of that element to him. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 9>big point to be made there, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 9>why I go back and forth with the two so much.

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<v Speaker 9>Right we have this show two weeks ago, I'm giving

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<v Speaker 9>you a different answer, and I think after the combine

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<v Speaker 9>we can have a different different two guys are so

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<v Speaker 9>close to each other. I think they'll go two and

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<v Speaker 9>three if the three teams that are picking right now

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<v Speaker 9>will stay at one, two, three, and my mock draft

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<v Speaker 9>I have these guys going one, two three.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, to me, though, what's interesting, and I know

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<v Speaker 4>this was who would you rather between those two?

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<v Speaker 5>I think those are the top three. But who's your

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<v Speaker 5>fourth guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna ask that question. The next one man,

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<v Speaker 2>next man up on Dane's list is JJ.

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<v Speaker 3>McCarthy out of Michigan.

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<v Speaker 5>See I got Penix.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Pinnix all day and I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get the JJ McCarthy Bonnick hype for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I think McCarthy, you want to take him in the

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<v Speaker 4>second round. Maybe like Sean Payton and the Broncos, he

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<v Speaker 4>could be a good fit there.

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<v Speaker 5>I think JJ McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 4>I know Cam Newton got into a lot of trouble

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<v Speaker 4>with the game manager talk. That's what McCarthy is for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't see him making game changing type of plays.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he plays within the game, plays within the system.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you're watching him, they're handing the ball off,

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<v Speaker 4>handing the ball off. Then you need him to make

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<v Speaker 4>a play on third down and he'll.

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<v Speaker 5>Sail a pass.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get it with JJ McCarthy bo Nicks, I

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<v Speaker 4>definitely don't get it. I think he's a third round,

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<v Speaker 4>fourth round type of dude. Bo Nicks is a one

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<v Speaker 4>read type of quarterback for me. I don't think either

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<v Speaker 4>room our first round players. I think Pennix is the

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<v Speaker 4>next dude.

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<v Speaker 9>Up, slander, let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>We've always you've always had something else for Nicks. Now

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<v Speaker 2>there is a place in the NFL for guys like that.

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<v Speaker 2>There are plays.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, one of the guys played in the super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl this past year.

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<v Speaker 9>Then let's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not. Let's not pretend brock Party is the top

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean he's the best.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's not. Let's not.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why Patrick mahomes you. No, he did not.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go to offensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this sixteen and seventeen on Dane's Top one hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred list offensive tackle out of Oregon State, Talisi

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<v Speaker 2>Fuaga six foot five, three thirty two Redcher junior making

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<v Speaker 2>his way out of Oregon State.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you've got a Marius Mimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Offensive tackle out of Georgia six ' seven three thirty

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<v Speaker 2>Brian who you got on this one?

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you what I went with the Oregon State

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<v Speaker 6>kid here in this one, and I'll tell you why

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<v Speaker 6>I did, because, man, the the thing about him is

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<v Speaker 6>it's amazing his athletic ability for his size. He's so

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<v Speaker 6>impressive of the foot athlete. He puts himself in position

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<v Speaker 6>to kick away from the line of scrimmage. Opponents have

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<v Speaker 6>no shot to bull rush this guy super He's super tough,

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<v Speaker 6>he sits down, he's nasty in the run game. He

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<v Speaker 6>can easily get movement off the snap. He will drive

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<v Speaker 6>his man out of the play several times. If you're

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<v Speaker 6>watching the film and he's just and his guy, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Out of the way.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there might you know, I think there might

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<v Speaker 6>be some thought about moving him even to guard because

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<v Speaker 6>of the power and the ability to move. But I

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<v Speaker 6>just love the way that this guy punishes defenders when

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<v Speaker 6>helping teammates. The power, the finish he makes me really

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<v Speaker 6>really uh you know, at six six three thirty four.

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<v Speaker 6>Those are all things to really really like about his game.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, whenever I looked at Fuaga, I like that you

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<v Speaker 9>mentioned the mobility because I put that his ability starts

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<v Speaker 9>with his legs and it finish, It finishes with his

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<v Speaker 9>violent hands. I saw that at Senior Bowl quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 9>Before going into the Senior Bowl, I liked Fluago, but

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<v Speaker 9>I fell in love with him after that. And then

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<v Speaker 9>they they threw a different kind of pass rushers at him.

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<v Speaker 9>They threw the athletic ones like lyle to Latu and

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<v Speaker 9>then they threw the physical ones like a Marshawn Nelan,

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<v Speaker 9>and he was able to combo both of those type

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<v Speaker 9>of pass rushers with his feet first and then finishing

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<v Speaker 9>with his hands. I really love what he does, and

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<v Speaker 9>his experience, I think is what's going to make me

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<v Speaker 9>give him the victory for me here in this would

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<v Speaker 9>you rather you talk about it Marius Mems and I

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<v Speaker 9>know we've talked about it with just the eight starts,

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<v Speaker 9>but that's tough. He's young, it's not necessarily raw. No, No,

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<v Speaker 9>he's not necessarily raw at all. I think he can

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<v Speaker 9>go into an NFL franchise, be able to have a

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<v Speaker 9>strong training camp, and have an opportunity to start depending

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<v Speaker 9>on where he lands. But I think with a little

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<v Speaker 9>bit more of that experience in preseason and getting him

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<v Speaker 9>a custom with an NFL offense early in the year

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<v Speaker 9>with a team that might not be competing for a

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<v Speaker 9>playoff spot, I think by year two, year three, we

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<v Speaker 9>could be comparing these guys a lot more closer. I

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<v Speaker 9>think long term that's really tough to judge, but right now,

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<v Speaker 9>as a draft prospect, I'll take the experience. If two

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<v Speaker 9>guys are kind of the same to me when it

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<v Speaker 9>comes to on field play.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, when you look at Fuaga, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 7>can teach what he does and just the you talk

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<v Speaker 7>about the attitude and the determination.

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<v Speaker 8>He has a lot of tenacity in his game.

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<v Speaker 7>And again I think Mems has these things as well,

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<v Speaker 7>but I just you look at Fuaga and the tech,

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<v Speaker 7>the technical side of things is there.

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<v Speaker 8>I just think you have a more.

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<v Speaker 7>Rounded player to start right with with Fuaga to start

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<v Speaker 7>and that's that would be.

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<v Speaker 8>My only thing is the experience and things.

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<v Speaker 7>But I just don't think what he does in the

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<v Speaker 7>run game and just how his the natural awareness and

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<v Speaker 7>stuff from him is just it's.

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<v Speaker 8>Just the guy just gets the position.

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<v Speaker 7>It's you know, so if I'm if I'm a coach

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<v Speaker 7>or something like that, I kind of know exactly exactly

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<v Speaker 7>what I'm getting right away with this guy. In comparison

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<v Speaker 7>to Mems, even though there's a lot of love for

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<v Speaker 7>Home over here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, both of those guys would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're not I know we're not talking about cowboys specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would I would take you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>make it, Mems could certainly make it.

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<v Speaker 5>Mims is one of those guys. For like four years

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<v Speaker 5>from now.

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<v Speaker 4>If he ends up being the best tackle in this class,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be shocked because the talent's there. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go with Fuaga as well. I think he might

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<v Speaker 4>be the best run blocking tackle of the bunch. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I love what Alt can bring you, with Fashan who

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<v Speaker 4>can bring you. But Fuaga is my favorite tackle in

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<v Speaker 4>this draft.

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<v Speaker 5>He's now, he's mean. I like the kick in the slide.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got natural bend as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes you can get caught, you know, lunging a little bit,

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<v Speaker 4>so players can get caught underneath them.

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<v Speaker 5>But log is a beast.

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<v Speaker 6>You know the thing about memes And I'm gonna ask

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<v Speaker 6>you guys this, do you feel like that you can

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<v Speaker 6>use some movement wise in the scheme? I mean, do

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<v Speaker 6>you feel like he's a light footed enough guy to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to move around a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 11>You.

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<v Speaker 8>I thought he was effective as a puller. It's not

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<v Speaker 8>as the second one, not as it's not as smooth.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not as like you can kind of see him

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<v Speaker 7>have to build up like the transition it's smooth. But

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<v Speaker 7>I do think it's something we talk about the experience.

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<v Speaker 7>I do think that is something that could get better

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<v Speaker 7>with the experience. But I do think as a as

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<v Speaker 7>doing ad being asked to do it, he can do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's got the ability to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're right, And maybe that is an experience

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<v Speaker 4>issue because sometimes you'll see him get out in space

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<v Speaker 4>and he's like, I'm not sure who I need to

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<v Speaker 4>block here, and so he's a little late to picking

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<v Speaker 4>up his gay.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I picked up there. The talent. The talent,

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<v Speaker 5>I do think.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's got the athletic I mean his arms

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<v Speaker 4>are so long that the thing is, he's so big.

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<v Speaker 5>When I'm watching him, I want him to just.

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<v Speaker 4>Beat people up, like it's you have the physical ability

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<v Speaker 4>and strength to do it. Blog is doing that, flogg

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<v Speaker 4>Is knocking people on the ground. I'm like, Mims, be

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more aggressive you're at the point of attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that something you can teach Brian to to an

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<v Speaker 2>offensive tackle? I know some guys have it, like Fuaga

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<v Speaker 2>has it. Yeah, if you don't think Mims has that

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<v Speaker 2>is something that he is. That something he can pick

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<v Speaker 2>up at the next level.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that you're going to have to try because

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<v Speaker 6>I think I just got him right, and Zach, I

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<v Speaker 6>like what you're saying about the hesitation. I was just

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<v Speaker 6>a little worried because I didn't see the smoothness. And

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<v Speaker 6>I'm glad you explained it the way it is. I

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<v Speaker 6>was thinking with the other guy, you know, he's just

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<v Speaker 6>you see him and he locates, he's on it, and

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<v Speaker 6>he's and he's working. Mims is a little bit of hesitation,

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit, I'm not sure, a little bit of

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<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to get gathered.

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<v Speaker 5>To be able to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's why I had a little bit of a question.

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<v Speaker 6>But both these guys are just mammoth when you start

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<v Speaker 6>talking about in the three thirty and three forty range.

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<v Speaker 6>I just felt like the Oregon State guy was just

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit better scheme fit for me trying to

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 6>if I'm going to play with some outside zone, I'm

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 6>gonna play where I have to get second level or

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.239
<v Speaker 6>cut off back sides. He just seemed like he had

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit more to his game there.

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<v Speaker 9>It's natural for him.

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<v Speaker 7>You can tell, yeah, I think he I think he

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<v Speaker 7>with MEMS. One thing I was looking for him to

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<v Speaker 7>do is finish blocks.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, yeah to it and flagger there's.

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<v Speaker 7>No doubt you're trying to drive you completely out of

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<v Speaker 7>the play. Now, the injury that Mims had, what was it?

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<v Speaker 8>He had a surgery.

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<v Speaker 5>He had an ankle here at an ankle in the

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<v Speaker 5>South Carolina game.

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<v Speaker 8>Ape.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, surgery is yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>George is famous for this. George is famous for this tightrope,

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<v Speaker 6>this high ankle spring. It's called tightrope. And they and

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<v Speaker 6>they they connect the bones together, they bring the bones

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<v Speaker 6>back together, and they did it with the tight end

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<v Speaker 6>brock Bowers. Brock Bowers did it and he came back sooner.

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<v Speaker 6>So George is kind of working on this. But they

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 6>did this. But he he got hurt in the South

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 6>Carolina game and missed six games.

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<v Speaker 5>But they did the tight rope on it. Okay, you

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 5>brought up rock Browners. Can I throw out a wood?

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<v Speaker 5>You rather that? I think I might be on an

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<v Speaker 5>island here?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we do it on the second second you want to? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because we've got more.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to get myself in trouble with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got two more that we want to get to

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<v Speaker 2>and then we can add yours third and we could

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it h before we go to break tally.

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<v Speaker 3>Essay, Right, is that how you say is seen?

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<v Speaker 9>Talis. That's what I've been seeing.

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<v Speaker 5>You've seen talise.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at Oregon State's pronunciation guide, and it could

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<v Speaker 2>be wrong. I've seen plenty of college pronunciation guys that

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<v Speaker 2>are wrong. But tally s or tally essay is what

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<v Speaker 2>they've got.

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<v Speaker 3>Tall e s t There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we're gonna continue with some would you rathers?

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some edge rushers. Apparently Zach wants to talk

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think he was doing a bit. I

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<v Speaker 3>It was just saying like conk cave.

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<v Speaker 6>Supposed to say, yeah, yeah, it's worth going if you have,

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<v Speaker 5>That's what he was saying. He goes our Conka for

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<v Speaker 5>trophy means more than that. You know.

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<v Speaker 6>He was just going on and Tran was just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of looking at him like you're he was right biased

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<v Speaker 6>by the way radio road to an interview. No, oh

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<v Speaker 6>my gosh, what a following he had.

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<v Speaker 5>It was people.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got a he's got a media crew that goes

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<v Speaker 6>with him everywhere he goes.

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<v Speaker 5>That's pretty So.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like you a meteoro, right, yeah, far from Bryan.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's who?

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<v Speaker 3>That's part of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was cool, it's cool. We need to get

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<v Speaker 5>back to this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Yeah, it took us off the track. I

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<v Speaker 3>got to ask you about the vending machine food.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever it was not good, it would not recommend it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's a cool machine. But that's about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Pete's out of a machine. All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go with edge rushers first.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about Jared Jared Verse from Florida

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<v Speaker 2>State versus Bayatu Latu from UCLA, also touching tags on

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<v Speaker 2>Dame Brugler's top one hundred list on the Athletic twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one and twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach, where would you start on this one?

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<v Speaker 5>Better all around player is Verse.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's the best all around edge when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to, you know, playing the run and rushing the passer.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to go with Law two because this

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<v Speaker 4>is all about getting after the quarterback, and I have

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<v Speaker 4>Law two. A's the best overall pass rusher in the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>I think his bend is unique and it's exceptional. It

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<v Speaker 4>reminds me of DeMarcus ware ESQ. You know, his ability

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 4>to just get low. He's tough, He's got a nice

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 4>little cross chop, he'll rush, he can loop all the

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<v Speaker 4>way around the quarterback, get up field. I do think

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<v Speaker 4>his gap discipline is an issue for me. I think

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 4>Verse is better when it comes to that. I think

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<v Speaker 4>he can play, you know, stand up outside linebacker, can

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<v Speaker 4>put his hand in the ground. He's got room to improve.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think he's the best overall pass rusher. Him

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<v Speaker 4>and Chop Robinson are the top two guys for me.

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<v Speaker 5>But Verse.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want a guy that's just all around, can

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<v Speaker 4>set the edge, play the run, but also gives you

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<v Speaker 4>some pass rush ability versus the better all around guy.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm gonna lean.

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<v Speaker 9>Onto that's Funny you mentioned about Law two's gap discipline,

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<v Speaker 9>because the one negative that I did put with him

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<v Speaker 9>is run game. I think there's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 9>concerns there, but I think that's going to come with

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<v Speaker 9>more experience A and then two as he kind of

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 9>fills out his lower half. Like I said, whenever I

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<v Speaker 9>came out of Senier Bowl, the whenever I look at

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<v Speaker 9>his frame, when I look at his body, I still

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<v Speaker 9>see room for him to grow in his lower half.

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<v Speaker 9>You could still probably add ten to fifteen pounds there.

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<v Speaker 9>I think if you want a guy to be physical,

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<v Speaker 9>you want a guy that's dual purpose as far as

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<v Speaker 9>being able to rush the passer but also being able

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<v Speaker 9>to defend the run, you go with Jared Vers. But

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<v Speaker 9>if you want a guy that's going to attack the

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<v Speaker 9>quarterback and be athletic and violent and be able to

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<v Speaker 9>get to him and bring him down, then you go

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<v Speaker 9>get Law two. I think Law two is going to

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<v Speaker 9>be the SAT guy that's going to blow away. It'll

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 9>blow away. You know those stat categories whenever you look

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<v Speaker 9>at Rookie of the Year and things about a year

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<v Speaker 9>from now. But I think when you look at three

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<v Speaker 9>four years from now, the better developmental project. I think

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<v Speaker 9>it's Jared versus nice.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you what, because I had a hard time

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<v Speaker 6>with these two. I do love me some Verse, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm worried about what I'm gonna hear from the medical

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<v Speaker 6>from lat too. You know, is are people going to

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<v Speaker 6>you know, he was at the University of Washington and

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<v Speaker 6>they asked him not to play football anymore, medically retired,

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<v Speaker 6>medically retired and then came back. And I wonder if

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<v Speaker 6>that's going to ding him further down the road. I

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<v Speaker 6>love what you guys are saying. I just the thing

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<v Speaker 6>with with Law two. I just I think that the

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<v Speaker 6>past rushability is absolutely top shelf there. I think the

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<v Speaker 6>more complete players Verse I agree with that. I just

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<v Speaker 6>think the more complete player, you know, and because like

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 6>he'll hold his ground, he reads the play, he reacts

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<v Speaker 6>to the play, He's a good tackler in the open field,

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 6>he could finish the play in a hurry, he wraps

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<v Speaker 6>up in space, and all that the better. Like I say,

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<v Speaker 6>the better pass rushers the u c l a kid,

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<v Speaker 6>But the guy that plays the most complete game is Verse.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think I would put Verse above him in

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<v Speaker 6>this regard.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I'm ever reading my notes as you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Going up and you're saying that Brian doesn't know what

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<v Speaker 5>the hell is going.

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<v Speaker 7>When you look in comparison to size and build, they're similar,

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<v Speaker 7>they're they're just a little off from each other as

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<v Speaker 7>far as the size and their build. But I will

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<v Speaker 7>say when you talk about Jared Versby in the more,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, just the more, I think he's just

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit more under control.

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<v Speaker 8>The lot to is.

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<v Speaker 7>And I feel you because I like a little bit

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 7>of Lattuo's not being under control because he you know,

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 7>he just flies to the ball. And also to shut

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 7>out to FSU for what they're doing over there with

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 7>that program, because when you turn on that tape of

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 7>that defense, holy yeah, yeah, they are flying well.

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 5>And I'll never forget verse two years ago. Brian can

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 5>touch this.

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<v Speaker 4>He wrecked LSU in that openar yeah, and then unfortunately

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 4>got hurt. But he would I mean I thought he

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 4>was coming out last year and would have been a

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<v Speaker 4>top fifteen pick.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And when you mentioned Verse, I mean, he's not super bendy.

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 8>It's just enough. Yeah, it's just it's to me, it's

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 8>just enough.

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 7>But he he is flexible, He's not Bendy, but he's

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 7>he has some flexibility, because you gotta have some flexibility

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 7>to be in the two point two point stance and

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<v Speaker 7>then go to the three point stance and then being

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<v Speaker 7>able to move around like that.

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 8>If I had to.

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<v Speaker 7>Choose one of them as far as like I'm if

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<v Speaker 7>you want to go do some crazy things, then you

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.439
<v Speaker 7>would choose Lit too, and that's fine. But if you're

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 7>with d N and what it is in this league now,

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 7>you're looking for somebody that can really contain that edge

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 7>and be disciplined and play under control and stuff. And

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 7>I'm thinking, I just think that Versus is going to

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 7>be the better player there. But I will say, I

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 7>do you think that people and not just the injury

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 7>with lots of guys, do you think people are gonna

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 7>care about the age he's four?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, that's not old. But when you look at

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 9>the end of a first contract, I mean, that's that's

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 9>coming up later than I know. It's a different position,

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 9>but Jackson powers Johnson just turned twenty one or twenty

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.760
<v Speaker 9>two a couple of weeks ago, so it's obviously completely different.

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 9>So you have to factor in those things. I think,

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 9>especially whenever you're talking about a fifth six year player,

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 9>And that's part of Michael Pennix as well. Yeah, you know,

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 9>do you draft him in the first round to keep

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 9>him five years and go ahead and lock him down?

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 9>Or are you okay with letting him push to the

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 9>second third and getting him potentially on a four year deal.

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 9>So it's it's things you think about.

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<v Speaker 6>I always think about when we were here in Dallas,

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 6>we drafted Terrence Newman and he was an older guy

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 6>out of Kansas State, and he's like, you can't draft

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 6>an older guy.

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 5>And he played till he was like forty.

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I mean sometimes some of these sometimes

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 6>you sometimes you're like and the older guy. I think

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 6>with quarterbacks now, I think people are digging the fact

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 6>that these guys are maybe.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 5>A little older and maybe they've played a little bit

0:37:58.920 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 5>more games.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 6>Know, So I don't think that used to be where

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 6>people would use that against them.

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't think they're doing that much any I think.

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 4>The only position would be running back now, I'm sure

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 4>not taking that different like versus twenty three.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did Terrence Newman have injury questions though? Because both

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Pennix and have injury history extensive ones at that Terrence

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.439
<v Speaker 2>supposed to fine, yeah, and he never got.

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 3>I think when you pair the age with the injury history.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's where it's that's going to be the question

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 6>for a law to That's going to be the question

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 6>if if all of a sudden, we're starting to hear

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 6>whispers out of the combine that you know, wow, this

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 6>this this injury is you know he plays through it

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 6>or it's going to be something you're gonna have to

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 6>deal with down the road.

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 5>Well, there here comes your faller.

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:48.720
<v Speaker 2>He was an FBS best twenty five percent pass rush

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 2>win win.

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 5>Rap last year.

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 3>That's insane.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>All the time he's in the backfield.

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 8>I wanted to I wanted to do you.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 7>I want to ask you, guys, when you watch lat

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 7>two and what he does on the edge, can you

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 7>see that he was a linebacker. You see the athleticism,

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 7>but also to you see I see him reading, yeah,

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 7>the crap from the position, and he's he's so intriguing.

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 8>I just want to ask him. I'm sorry to me

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 8>to interrupt you. I want to make what I thought I.

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 7>Was seeing is like he's reading consistently and I think

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 7>also too it helps him with angles as well.

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 8>When he's playing the run, so I just wanted to

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 8>make shot.

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 9>Throwing him in as a decoy is kind of interesting

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 9>from a pass rush perspective because you can see him

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 9>about to attack the ball and he'll drive back.

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 8>He's fine.

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 9>And I talked about that play here on the show

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 9>that I saw at Senior Bowl during the practices where

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:42.839
<v Speaker 9>he was lining up coming off of the left edge,

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 9>going up against the left tackle, and he was going

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 9>up against Michael Pennocks and he dropped back in coverage

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 9>and I think it confused Pinnix a little bit, and

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 9>so Penix was like, Okay, I'll roll out. Law two

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 9>won't follow me if I roll out, and he followed

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 9>him step for step and then Penix had to throw

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 9>it out of bounds in a practice session. So yeah, yeah,

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 9>it's it's it's interesting. He's he's got those coverage knacks,

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 9>and I think it'll really help if you're looking for

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 9>a defender that can kind of be able to bridge

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.320
<v Speaker 9>the defensive front with that second level.

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<v Speaker 2>Next scenario, Tyler Newman safety from Minnesota against Jaden Hicks,

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:17.280
<v Speaker 2>safety from Washington.

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 5>These two different guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, I think so forty one and forty three

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 2>on Dane's list.

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 5>By the way, I'm the guys I hated when you

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 5>put this on there.

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 4>I just texted Ryan the other night and I was like, dude,

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 4>I think I was late to the party here when

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 4>it comes to Washington State cap.

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 5>But holy hell, is his take fun?

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Like him and Peyton Wilson might be the most fun

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 4>I've had watching anybody during this entire draft process. This

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 4>is tough because new but I think is super similar

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 4>to Verse right. I think he is great in coverage.

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 4>I think he comes up. He's a sure tackler. Jayden

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Hicks is a game breaker. Jayden Hicks to me, I

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 4>put in my notes like here reminds me of a

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Harrison Smith Troy Paulamalu type of hybrid. I think he's

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 4>a Tasmanian devil out there. He's better to me when

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 4>he's around the line of scrimmage because he can just

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 4>wreck plays. I think he lacks elite long speed, but

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 4>he's super quick, super aware, explosive downhill tackles anything that moves.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:13.839
<v Speaker 4>But the thing with him is he just always around

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:15.879
<v Speaker 4>the ball. Both of these guys are kind of like that.

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 4>But Jaden Hicks to me just stands out like the

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 4>ball finds him. I think the instincts are a little

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 4>bit better. Nuban might be a better coverage guy, but

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 4>you see Hicks as well playing the deep high safety.

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 4>I think he had an interception on Michael Pennix this

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 4>year playing that so he can cover.

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 5>It's not like he can't.

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 4>But I'm gonna lean with Jayden Hicks here just because

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 4>I think he's more of a playmaker than Nuban.

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Wow, does the fact that he's a late bloomer question

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 2>you a little bit?

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 5>I think ahead of them.

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 3>That's that's fun. That's the best type of prospect right him.

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 7>No, no, no, no, no, I'm saying Jayden is a He's

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 7>a tear dun He is. He's a tear close to

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 7>and just the way he diagnoses and comes downhill. Now

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 7>you said, are these guys two different guys? I think

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 7>both of these guys have from versus. I think both

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 7>can play some free safety, both can play some strong safety.

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 7>But I do think that Tyler Newban could be more

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 7>effective is in a nickel, uh than what I think

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:12.879
<v Speaker 7>Jayden Hicks could be. And I but I do think

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 7>that Jayden Hicks has the ability to do some things

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 7>and die.

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 5>I think would love Jayden.

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 8>Hicks immediately, immediately, immediately.

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 7>You know what's so funny is like I think that

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 7>Zimmer would like this guy, would like Jayden Hicks. And

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 7>I think the gentleman that just left and went to

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 7>Washington would really like.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 8>Yes, the way that you look at it.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 7>But in regards to the player, I mean, I think

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 7>his backside disciplined Jaden and Hicks is really good. And

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 7>the way he plays, it's the way he plays the

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 7>run that stands out to me.

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:43.959
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, That's that's what stood out to me the most.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 7>And and even when when he's not as fluid a

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 7>man covers just yet like that's something you can tell

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 7>he's still working.

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 8>But he's he's explosive, but he's.

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 7>Not quick breaking breaking to the ball like it's if

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 7>that doesn't make sense like and but also to he's

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 7>he's a thumper, like he's coming downhill. He's trying to

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 7>make sure you know that he's there. But I do

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 7>think he can show up his tackling a little bit more.

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 7>But Tyler Nuben watching him and getting an idea of

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 7>what he can do, he's ideal in rangey, in coverage

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.240
<v Speaker 7>he has good zone awareness and he's fluid.

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 8>He's fluid and he can cover a lot of ground fast.

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 8>The ball skills really stand.

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 7>Out because he's he's baiting quarterbacks at times he's he's

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's I mean, I know, I call Sidney

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 7>Brown swiper. This this might be swiper for real because

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 7>you don't how many times are you watching him? And

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 7>you're like, how did they not?

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 8>Because he's a big dude, but people don't be seeing him.

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 7>But I think that takes it takes i Q to

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 7>be able to do some of the things he does.

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 7>I I really like I like me some Tyler Nuban

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 7>and I think Jayden Hicks it could be fun, definitely

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 7>if you need run support, if you need a guy

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 7>to come down there and be a tone setter.

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 8>But Newban I think is the more com complete player

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 8>right now.

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 5>From all of y'all, man, I you know what, I

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 5>love both players. I really really do.

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 6>Tyler Nuban to me though, I think he's one of

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 6>the best safeties in the country. I mean, the awareness,

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 6>the instincts, you know what others are standing still on

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 6>the defense he's running, you know, like people at the

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 6>Golden Gophers are not.

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 5>They're they're not. They're all standing there and he's He's like, no,

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm running. I'm going.

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to go get the ball. He could punish

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 6>ball carriers with his closing speed. He makes a ton

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 6>of plays going downhill, attacking the line of scrimmage. He's

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 6>not going to let the receiver make the play on him.

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 6>He's going to get his eyes around. He's going to

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 6>play the ball well. In the trail position. I think

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 6>he covers better. And that's kind of why I would

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 6>give him the nod of the other guy, because you

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 6>watch and I asked you this, because I think that

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 6>Hicks is more of a strong safety.

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 5>I know they're interchangeable.

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 6>Nowadays, and that's what and that's what Zimmer's going to

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 6>look at.

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 5>But I think that I think Hicks is.

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 6>Really more of a strong safety, whereas Nuban is more

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 6>of a free And if I had to put one

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.239
<v Speaker 6>back deep that can cover, I think I would go

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 6>with you, but I will I'll tell you this. I

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 6>did see Hicks run with guys in the slot that

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 6>were faster than he did, and he carried him, and

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 6>he carried him. I just think he impatched the game. Yeah, yeah,

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 6>it's that's a tough call right where he is, but

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 6>yeah it is.

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 5>I went Nube and on the slight I like just coverage.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 9>I like Hicks's man coverage ability and being able to

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 9>stick with guys at nickel or being able to even

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 9>They worked and met some boundary at times as well

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 9>this short season, and they moved him around. But I

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:32.919
<v Speaker 9>think when you look at range and what you want

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 9>from a safety to be able to come in as

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 9>an early guy, uh and play day one, I think

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 9>you want to trust a guy like Tyler Nuban. I

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 9>think he's my safety one. I stand on that. I

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 9>think he's going to be playing in this league for

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 9>a very long time. What I like to do with

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 9>really fun safety prospects, and this is kind of a

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 9>sick o thing that I like to do. I want

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 9>to whenever they're playing single high coverage, I'll put that

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 9>dot in the middle of my screen and I'll get

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 9>a expo marker and I want to draw a radius

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 9>around where he can affect the play from that single

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 9>high coverage. Nuban, I was covering my entire laptop screen,

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 9>but Nuben covered my entire screen. I mean that guy

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 9>he steps up and run coverage, he can step back.

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 9>I mean, his his ability to affect a play spans

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:16.439
<v Speaker 9>anywhere from twenty to twenty five yards in any given play.

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 9>That's that's what I love about him. I think his

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 9>instincts are phenomenal. You mentioned it. Him always moving around

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 9>and always being on top of the ball. That plays

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:26.320
<v Speaker 9>into it. I love Newman, but I also love what

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.399
<v Speaker 9>Hicks does from a coverage standpoint. I just don't think

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 9>he has the range that Nuben does. But frankly, I

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 9>don't think anyone in this draft class does me.

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we can talk about you all mentioned instincts for

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 2>both of these guys. Who has better instincts based off

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 2>of what you've seen so far?

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Nuban in coverage in coverage, yeah Uben, Yeah, Okay,

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:46.720
<v Speaker 9>specifically in zone.

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I say Nuben, I mean but that Yeah, But

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 7>he's played a lot of He's.

0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:53.320
<v Speaker 8>Played a lot of football.

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Yeah, he's played a lot of football Minnesota, And

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 7>the production just stands out to you as well, kind

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 7>of lets you know, like he probably understands moreymore.

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 8>He's been on the field.

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Of anmore Brian an incredible list top to bottom. That

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of fun to dive into.

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 3>We've got a wild card coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about brock Bauers and insert name here

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<v Speaker 2>at the tight end position.

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Zach Wilchuck's got a wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Slash game Time. All right, we've got one more scenario

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<v Speaker 2>we've been rolling through these would you rathers of the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four NFL Draft class? Stacking our board with

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Wilchuck, Nick Harris Brian brought us Ayisha Morrison, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>You've got one more scenario you want to throw at us?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just for fun. I mean I brought Bowers, the

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<v Speaker 4>tight end out of Georgia, who. I think that is

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<v Speaker 4>probably a top ten type of pick that everybody loves.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think since his freshman year we've kind of

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<v Speaker 4>looked at him as an elite tight end prospects number.

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<v Speaker 3>Five on Dane's Top one hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, Orgitavian Sanders, the wide receiver out of Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>Local kid went to Dent and Ryan we all got

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<v Speaker 4>to cover him in high school, actually played defensive end

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:39.319
<v Speaker 4>at Ryan. I wasn't sure if he'd stay there, but

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 4>he wanted to play offense. I mean, the dudis us

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<v Speaker 4>an absolute freak show. Now Bowers is incredible. I mean,

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 4>it's like any way to get the ball in his

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 4>hands first ever back to back John Mackie Award winner.

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<v Speaker 4>Can line him up in the slot out wide in line.

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<v Speaker 4>The question for me is, and he's a willing blocker,

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 4>but you want a guy that can set the edge

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<v Speaker 4>for you at tight end, and that is not only

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<v Speaker 4>a up and in the passing game, but also in

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<v Speaker 4>the blocking game. And the best tight ends in today's

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<v Speaker 4>NFL do this. You look at Kelsey, you look at Kittle,

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<v Speaker 4>go down the list. They can block, and I think

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Jatavian Sanders is a better blocker out of Texas, out

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 4>of Texas than brock Bowers out of Georgia. And he

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<v Speaker 4>can also make plays over the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's no question Bowers in terms of long speed,

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:24.840
<v Speaker 4>is a better playmaker with the ball in his hands.

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<v Speaker 4>But Jatavian Sanders, I think gives you everything. If you

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the most complete tight end in the draft,

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 4>and that's kind of some of the arguments we've been

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<v Speaker 4>having with these. I would lean with JT. Sanders over

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 4>brock Bowers. I think brock Bowers in the passing game

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 4>far superior player when you combine the receiving ability and

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 4>the blocking ability. I really love what I see in

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Jatavian Sanders.

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<v Speaker 10>By the way, Brockower, alright, alright.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, Matthew.

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<v Speaker 2>Jatavian Sanders is number fifty on Dane's list, So you

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 2>and Dane would have a conversation about.

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 4>It, like there's no, there's no I mean Bowers is

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.760
<v Speaker 4>going to go ahead of Jatavion Sanders, but just projecting

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 4>ahead four years, five years from now where you like

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 4>the most the better player, because I mean, like Kyle Pitts,

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 4>we all loved Kyle Pitts and maybe this is a

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 4>product of the offense he's playing, but he has not

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<v Speaker 4>lived up to that top ten expectation. Jatavian Sanders is

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that's going to go later that I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be surprised if he ends up being a better NFL

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:18.279
<v Speaker 4>tight end than brock Bowers.

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<v Speaker 8>Is it a lot of it because of the size, A.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot of it's but it's the blocking. To me, it's

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:25.360
<v Speaker 4>just it's the all around player. It's being able to

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:27.279
<v Speaker 4>set the edge in the run game. But also I

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:28.800
<v Speaker 4>kind of get a little verse to it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>think he can run the I think he can run routes.

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 4>He can feast over the middle of the field. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to be a game breaker when it comes

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 4>to elite speed. Brock Bowers is, and brock Bowers is

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 4>a fun chess piece. He's in just an offensive weapon.

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.560
<v Speaker 4>To me, he's kind of a borderline wide receiver is

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:44.840
<v Speaker 4>a tight end, but it's not that he's not a

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<v Speaker 4>willing blocker. The size, though, I think, is a drastic

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<v Speaker 4>difference between these two players.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, this one's tough for me because I'm biased with

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 9>Jatavian Sanders because I've known him for gosh going on

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 9>six years now. But I like everything you said, and man,

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 9>Jitavian Sanders took some hits this year that I'd be

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 9>worried brock Bower's taking, and so those I brought up

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 9>those concerns on Tuesday whenever we talked about brock Bauers

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:09.040
<v Speaker 9>on this show, and you know, is the size of concern.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's something you definitely look at at combine

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<v Speaker 9>and kind of see how those two guys stack up

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<v Speaker 9>next to each other. But man, I love what Jatavian

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<v Speaker 9>does from a physicality standpoint, and it shows and route running,

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:21.480
<v Speaker 9>it shows that at the point of the catch. I

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<v Speaker 9>think there's a lot of things to love about Jatavian,

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<v Speaker 9>but it's so close for me. I would take Bowers

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<v Speaker 9>just above. But I think both of these guys are

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<v Speaker 9>first round caliber players. I think there's definitely a chance

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<v Speaker 9>for Jatavian Sanders to sneak into the first round.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me ask you guys this question, then the after

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<v Speaker 6>the catch? Is it better than is it?

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<v Speaker 5>To you?

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<v Speaker 6>How important is that when you get your guy run

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<v Speaker 6>after catch, say you're tight end.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's important, certainly, Okay, you have to have it,

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 4>you have to have the wiggle. And Bowers is better

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 4>after the catch. But it's not like Sanders is bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's the speeds the difference. But Sanders can

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<v Speaker 4>break tackles, he can run through you. He's not quite

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.680
<v Speaker 4>as sudden and fl flexible as Bowers is, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think he can.

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<v Speaker 5>He can bounce off defenders better than Bowers can. So

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<v Speaker 5>where would you rank them blocking? Would you put it

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<v Speaker 5>over right? I think that's the biggest gap between them.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that the gap in blocking with pro Sanders

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<v Speaker 4>to Bowers is the biggest gap in their games.

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<v Speaker 8>But what are you asking? You asking which was more important?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I was asking, like, which one is more important to

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 6>you right now? The fact that you have him as

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<v Speaker 6>a blocker, the fact you have one of the best

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<v Speaker 6>run after catch guys in the country.

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<v Speaker 9>You're talking.

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<v Speaker 3>The scheme fit well, And let me add another element

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 3>into this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you talk about possession receivers at the tight

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<v Speaker 2>end position and how important that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the better pass catcher in general? Who has the

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<v Speaker 3>better hands, Sanders or Bowers.

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<v Speaker 9>I think they are right there together.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's not some phenomenal grabs.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, to me.

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<v Speaker 6>The thing that the thing the biggest difference to me

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 6>is Bowers run after catch is I think that's elite

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 6>with him?

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<v Speaker 5>It is, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>But the thing about it is, I'm trying to think,

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<v Speaker 6>do I is it more important me to have a

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 6>more complete player, a guy that I think is elite

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:02.360
<v Speaker 6>after cats?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Like that's why I leaned law to in the

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 5>verse conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>It's more important to me to have the pass rusher

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<v Speaker 4>that can impact the passing game than the all around

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<v Speaker 4>end in this conversation. In today's NFL, I think Sanders

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:14.799
<v Speaker 4>is a three down player. I think you might be

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<v Speaker 4>sub and outbours in some run situations.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I was about to say, I guess it depends

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:20.839
<v Speaker 7>on what your room looks like, your tight end room

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:22.759
<v Speaker 7>looks like, because I think we are starting to see

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<v Speaker 7>more teams have not a committee of tight ends, but

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<v Speaker 7>one typically can do something better than the other and

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 7>vice versa or whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, if you got to that can block, well I'm jealous,

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:38.640
<v Speaker 8>but uh, I mean, but are and are.

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:40.760
<v Speaker 7>Still able to be receiving threats. But I do also

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.680
<v Speaker 7>it extends to your play calling because when you can

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 7>have guys act like they're blocking and then they can

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 7>slip with their actual threats, like real threats, they're not

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:50.000
<v Speaker 7>just there for decoration.

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:51.479
<v Speaker 8>I do think it puts a lot.

0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 7>Of pressure on defenses to have to get after it

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.200
<v Speaker 7>and to deal with those guys that are able to

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 7>block effectively, and also to slip into slip into the

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:01.720
<v Speaker 7>second level one and do some things.

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 6>Where Bowers has a chance is he has to block

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 6>on the move.

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 5>He's not gonna Sanders could play in line. Bowers doesn't

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 5>play in line. That's the problem right there.

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 6>If you want an in line and want to talk

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 6>about in line next to the tackle, you know, he

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:18.680
<v Speaker 6>he's Sanders's he could do that.

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:21.880
<v Speaker 5>Bowers to me, when you put him on the move

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 5>on the.

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:25.400
<v Speaker 6>Edge, when he could run with somebody and play in

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 6>space that way, I think that's where he's better.

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 5>You know, he has to be on the move.

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 6>I don't think he's gonna sit there and hammer anybody

0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 6>playing in line.

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:33.480
<v Speaker 5>So do you.

0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:37.680
<v Speaker 7>Forfeit the dynamic playmaking ability for the block the lack

0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:38.720
<v Speaker 7>of block that's hard.

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to throw it out there, like I

0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 4>had Bowers. Everybody's gonna have him number one. I mean,

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 4>in my stack, I'm gonna have Bowers and Sanders. I'm

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 4>gonna have Bowers ahead of him. But I do think

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:49.640
<v Speaker 4>to Tavian Sanders is a little bit closer. And I

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 4>think overall, when you look at just the best, most

0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 4>complete tight end of the draft, you can make a

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 4>case he's that.

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Could you see a chance or a scenario where Bowers

0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:01.760
<v Speaker 2>falls out of the top ten and Sanders sneaks into

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:04.359
<v Speaker 2>the first round if that's the case, because if he's

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 2>still stacked one two, but there are these questions on

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 2>how he does perform as a blocker, how he does

0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:14.560
<v Speaker 2>perform in line. Will you maybe see a hesitation from

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 2>teams to take him in the top ten?

0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 3>And then if Jatavian Sanders.

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Is that complete prospect that he is, maybe instead of

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 2>being in the fifties where Dane has him right now,

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:25.480
<v Speaker 2>he sneaks up inside the top thirty two.

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 5>Or is just such an offensive weapon.

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 4>I do think that a team's just gonna fall in

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 4>love with him and say, hell, let's do this. But yeah,

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't see him falling out of the top fifteen.

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 4>Ye I think you could get the three quarterbacks and

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 4>a run on offensive tackles. So maybe he does slip

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 4>out of the top ten, but I think Sanders could

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 4>sneak himself.

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 5>Into the back of the first round. Absolutely.

0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:47.439
<v Speaker 6>My first line of my report was that loved Kyle

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 6>Pitts from the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, and I

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 6>feel like this guy's a similar player but slightly better.

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh you think he's better that.

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 5>I think it's better than Kyle Pitts.

0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 9>How many times have you been able to look at

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 9>a tight end prospers coming out into the draft and

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 9>say that this guy is a threat pre snap, like

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.160
<v Speaker 9>you have to. You have to account for him the

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 9>moment he steps between the lines.

0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 5>Kyle Pitts is that guy? Yeah, you can't.

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 9>You probably can't say many on your two hands, and

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<v Speaker 9>Brock Bowers is definitely one of those.

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<v Speaker 5>He is.

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<v Speaker 9>You see what Georgia did as far as getting him

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<v Speaker 9>free releases and getting him going in the receiving game

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<v Speaker 9>as the as his career went on. It's he's so

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<v Speaker 9>dangerous as an offensive weapon. It's it's so tough to

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<v Speaker 9>be sweeps.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I mean that's rare.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if I had to put it, even knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what happened in the NFL career, I think I liked

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Pitts better than I like Brock Bauers. But both

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<v Speaker 2>are elite prospects in their own right, and they they

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<v Speaker 2>they certainly of course haven't seen that from Kyle Pitts

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<v Speaker 2>in Georgia. We saw it during brock Powers time at

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Georgia, and.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see how it turns to the Well, I hate

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<v Speaker 3>that Kyle Pitts.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just one of the downsides.

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<v Speaker 7>Of of this, of this in general, is like I

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<v Speaker 7>really have a huge gripe WISZ player development and things

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<v Speaker 7>like that when this time stuff happens.

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<v Speaker 8>But I'm just not gonna go today you.

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<v Speaker 5>Got to coach the lost his job because of it.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're not the only one that feels that way.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Look, wo would you rather today? Sending

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<v Speaker 2>you into the long weekend with.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh with a little bit of draft point talk, what

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<v Speaker 3>uh We're done?

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<v Speaker 8>I know that Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Monday's off President's Day.

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<v Speaker 9>I will not be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not gonna be in the building. So okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see how guess we'll see you on Tuesday, though,

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<v Speaker 3>back here for the Draft show.

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<v Speaker 9>We're not missing one of these.

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<v Speaker 3>Though we are not.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be back on Tuesday, eleven am Central Time

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<v Speaker 2>to break it all down for you for Zach Walchuck, Nick, Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian brought us I us Sham Morrison and Chris Beaming

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<v Speaker 2>the backup Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the Star

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<v Speaker 2>and Frisco.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see you next week.

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